programming

[silent cloak]

Crypto miner

[sage crag]

zzz

[maiden geyser]

it doesn't seem like it, nothing changes when i open task manager, close everything

maybe a driver issue, but i rollback and nothing changes

[maiden geyser]

wakie wakie

[sage crag]

[nocturne olive]

40% isn't really idle

[maiden geyser]

it raises to 40 when i focus on discord with nothing else opened

but wattage doesn't go below 80w, even though before 40w was the average idle

[true hemlock]

did some bios frankenstein modding

signature for the CPU microcode module seem to match between the B650 and B850

going to transfer the B650 microcode module to tbe B850

rookie numbers

[midnight sigil]

bricking news

🧱

[true hemlock]

🔥

SPI programming tool ready so eh

fuck all and we ball ig

[midnight sigil]

why they starts with 0123456789ABCDEF

is this some kind of standard

[true hemlock]

GUID moment

eh fuck all

only AM5 CPU and board i have is my 7950x engineering sample and MSI PRO B850-P

so my only option is to make them work together

[midnight sigil]

[mighty thorn]

Fun fact

LibriTTS-R is actually quite large

Like

Large enough that it takes RMVPE ~12 hours to process it all

And it’s gonna take a lot longer once I run for 48khz audio instead of the 24khz I use for the test model

[brisk laurel]

chat what cloud storage provider do you use?

[uneven pulsar]

just setup a nas

[nocturne olive]

Apparently ffmpeg audio streaming can't do lower latency than 3s
Unless someone has magical args that prove me wrong

[rough bloom]

depends on what the requirements are
I tend to use B2 because it's cheap but it's not the best at everything
(assuming you mean object storage)

[olive sable]

true

when i have a static screen i get around 40W, the moment i move my mosue it jumps to 120W tho

anyways

i need to figure out how to do supports for 3D prints better, rn it take twice as long to remove supports than to actually print stuff

and the smaller parts break off toghether with the supports

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/annaxtime/status/1987484621999833230

春 (@annaxtime)

在流动的噪点中寻找隐藏其中内容，完全是铲猫砂体验
︀︀
︀︀虽然实际用在验证码中远不能打败计算机视觉，还是能拦住常返作案地点的坏猫

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FxTwitter · Nov 9, 2025, 11:37 AM

cat poop captcha

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

[young plover]

Been having issues with inconsistent loading times on mostly big site like youtube, twitch, and reddit.
I thought it was adblock related but couldn't see anything wrong in the logs.
Turns out Firefox just screwed up their QUIC implementation.
Set the network.http.http3.enable flag to false and it instantly fixed the issue.

[hearty notch]

good to know for using those sites on ff ty

[young plover]

Looks like setting network.http.http3.use_nspr_for_io to true also fixes it while keeping http3 enabled.

[proud wagon]

for me it's always github

all other websites work fine, except for github

[hearty notch]

githubs never been broken for me but im a chrome using normie

[fair horizon]

Managed to make some progress on this assembly raycast voxel renderer, and it's already looking better than most triple A games. You can't even distinguish it from real life without squinting your eyes

[sage crag]

[potent gull]

Looks good. How efficient is it, though? Probably quite, since it's running in MS-DOS.

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-gif-24525483

[fair horizon]

Running at about 10-20 fps while using the resolution visible there, but if I increase resolution any further it turns into a slideshow

[potent gull]

Of course.

[obsidian mantle]

how are those flying boxes made?

its like some object with coordinates

or what is it

is it a static picture or you can walk around?

[fair horizon]

The world is stored as a grid of blocktypes (eg 0 for air, 1 for grass)

You can walk around

[sage crag]

[obsidian mantle]

is this one block

[sage crag]

are you packing them or using a full int width for each block

[fair horizon]

The raycast algorithm steps through the grid of blocks and if it hits something it gets the corresponding pixel stuff

[fair horizon]

Texture pixel

[sage crag]

just texture

[obsidian mantle]

oh so this is block with texture

[fair horizon]

1 byte per block currently

[sage crag]

reasonable

considered doing some form of chunking + run-length encoding inside chunks?

very easy and would reduce file size a lot

[obsidian mantle]

i asked because you can make that big block with smaller blocks

[fair horizon]

True, but would take a lot longer to render each frame then sadly

[obsidian mantle]

why is it so slow

is it running in some 0hz cpu vm

[sage crag]

naive algorithm implemented in asm on the cpu

you try it

lol

[obsidian mantle]

its never from scratch, its always some voxel moxel renderer

[fair horizon]

Considered it, but adding it currently won't add much since it can already have a pretty decent worldsize having it fully inside ram without the extra complexity

[sage crag]

[obsidian mantle]

or is that voxel moxel asm algorithm itself

with nothing around it

[sage crag]

???

[obsidian mantle]

about this

[fair horizon]

It probably would be quite a lot faster if it weren't on a vm yeah

[sage crag]

why are you saying voxel moxel

[obsidian mantle]

because voxel was mentioned and i dont know what voxel is

[sage crag]

a voxel is like a 3d pixel

moxel is something related with voxels, its a python package

[obsidian mantle]

oh so its full from scratch in asm but its classified as that

[sage crag]

???

[obsidian mantle]

voxel moxel just rhymes i had no idea moxel is a word too

i heard it somewhere

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-im-no-ears-im-all-ears-horse-gif-4308252428337868305

[fair horizon]

It is a voxel renderer using raycasting implemented in asm from scratch

[obsidian mantle]

see

[sage crag]

this is the understanding i had from the first moment i read the message

[fair horizon]

It only renders voxels, can't even render a triangle, just cubes, everywhere you look, at all times every time

[obsidian mantle]

i never doubted you

just wanted to understand it myself too

[fair horizon]

Understandable

[sage crag]

you may not doubt me but i am doubting you

[obsidian mantle]

nothing new

[sage crag]

did you do simple linear raycasting or is it octree/quadtree based?

or maybe spatially hashed?

you might get a big speed up from doing octree/quadtree raycasting if you can spare memory

or can allocate memory i suppose

[fair horizon]

I'm using an algorithm specifically for voxels like this so not sure if it fully classifies into one of those, but probably linear if it does fall into a category I'm guessing

[sage crag]

i dont know how feasible it is to write an octree or quadtree in asm, but it may be something to look into

[fair horizon]

The torture

Tho thx for making me aware of it, I'll still look into what those are out of curiosity even if I won't end up implementing them

[sage crag]

[obsidian mantle]

wait when does chess tournament start

was it november something

do i need to submit it before that date or submitting starts after that

[fair horizon]

I have returned from quickly looking into quadtrees/octrees. Can confirm that my current algorithm is linear, and can also confirm that I am absolutely terrified at the thought of implementing octrees in assembly, so I'll leave that as a very optional feature to implement if I ever feel like torturing myself

[sage crag]

it will be faster (and in theory more accurate) for raycasting too, if you get round to it

provided your implementation is good though

[fair horizon]

Octrees seem to become more efficient/effective on performance the longer the rays are/the larger amount of time the actual traversal of rays takes up. Currently a significantly large portion of the time for each pixel is still taken up by the other necessary parts of the rendering as well since the raylength in this case is fairly short (10 blocks)

So I feel as if it wouldn't make too huge of a difference if it were used with the current parameters, but if the raylength were to increase, then octrees would certainly show their need

Not fully sure if that way of thinking is correct though, since I only have minor basic understanding of what octrees are from looking it up just now

[sage crag]

you cant really increase the raylength without introducing artifacts to your raycasting usually

🤔

unless you are using one of the proper algorithms for it i guess

with octrees you will get a larger maximum ray length that gets smaller as you get closer to a voxel

[fair horizon]

I might not have noticed them yet due to the low resolution maybe

[sage crag]

means raycasting goes from O(n) to O(log n)

in theory

[fair horizon]

I'm using a basic implementation of the Amanatides and Woo voxel traversal algorithm

[sage crag]

[fair horizon]

Makes sense, though I'm guessing there'll be a bit more time needed for each "step" since the size of the "cubes" varies making the computations more complex

[sage crag]

youd think so but not really

you can also look into bvhs for a similar concept

sebastian lague has a raytracer series in which he implements a bvh for a pretty huge speedup

i recommend watching it

[fair horizon]

I'm guessing it depends on the exact algorithm used

[sage crag]

not a voxel raycaster but the concepts are pretty similar

[fair horizon]

Oh I got that one in my watch later list if I remember correctly, still haven't gotten around to watching it

[sage crag]

[fair horizon]

[obsidian mantle]

how do i check if it has attribute if hasattr doesnt help

am i supposed to wrap it into "try"

and handle it like error

oh wait im supposed to pass string

it didnt help

and even after i wrapped it into "try" it still crashes

oh wait its probably just some external traceback that doesnt even matter

because it continues working

i dont get it

[opaque sigil]

Show code

[obsidian mantle]

ok so this is the part that crashes

oh wait no different one

ah nvm its same

so nakurity_backend eventually gets destroyed (assigned None)

and await does this

ok actually maybe it does matter and i dont see it here is actual part of code

[amber fractal]

We love not checking before usage

[obsidian mantle]

has attr doesnt help because it looks like it just sits inside of await

and eventually object thats being awaited gets destroyed

but why "try" doesnt catch it

i dont get "print" message from "except"

[opaque sigil]

Do you have a different thread that assigns the attribute

[obsidian mantle]

yes

[opaque sigil]

This looks like it's doing what it should no?

Prints the message then the stack trace

[amber fractal]

Yep

[obsidian mantle]

oh im blind true

i was looking under it

not above

i just expected it to look different too

but it was the same print_exc probably just somewhere higher

[stark needle]

Good night #programming

[glad path]

vituha why print the warnings instead of logging them

[obsidian mantle]

because its not so deep and variative, it just happens straightforward on launch/on events i can easily trigger

instead of scrolling .txt i can scroll terminal

same way

[glad path]

you can just config logging to go to terminal

its not hard

its like

really easy

[obsidian mantle]

how would it look? i didnt quite get it

i have separate terminal opened for logs?

orr

[glad path]

you just set the logging level to warning or something

and it prints the warnigns

[obsidian mantle]

oh

i dont have that many messages, its easy to find everything just by a little scrolling

so far

[glad path]

ik

[obsidian mantle]

im just not used to try things unless its necessary

[proud wagon]

so the lava lamp is just set to "sync to music" for stream syncing and tutel just uses the api to set the "music color"

ohh the local key is visible from debug log

yep works

[silent cloak]

are u just reverse engineering the lava lamp API?

[proud wagon]

i tried and both app side and lamp side is not that easy

app side is using tuya's private api which is encrypted, and i don't really have the time to reverse engineer the encryption library

lamp side uses TLS-PSK and i don't think it's possible to get that other than by dumping the firmware from the chip (if it's even possible now)

but as it's with tuya's other things, there seem to be a local api and it's easy to get the local key for communicating with it

[flint dome]

try checking uart or jtag and tracing circuit if you can

[proud wagon]

i've yet to crack the lamp open

according to https://github.com/ct-Open-Source/tuya-convert/wiki/Collaboration-document-for-PSK-Identity-02, there is an api action called tuya.device.uuid.pskkey.get and that was used by old tuya devices to transition to the new PSK scheme, i wonder if that would work with completely new devices

i don't have high hopes for it though

[flint dome]

extremely doubtful

most likely you will have to break out a uart debugger

also I forgot why are you trying to reverse the lamp again

[proud wagon]

I do that with every piece of network connected device I own

[flint dome]

understandable

[proud wagon]

I'll try to open it after the next stream, I want to experience stream sync at least once

I just got the lamp yesterday, apparently they forgot to ship my lamp until I contacted support

[flint dome]

how comfortable are you with hardware and embedded

this may be hard for a beginner

I believe the cbu ipex have bk7231n as controller

https://www.elektroda.com/rtvforum/topic4038151.html

https://www.elektroda.com/rtvforum/topic4054399.html

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzbXEc2ebpH0CZDbczAXT94BuSGrd_GoM&si=Xb7RQGIQs-SbMmhX

[proud wagon]

I mainly do software RE but it's fine if they have working debug ports

[olive sable]

Welp, i went to bed early and now i have 5 hours to spare

[rigid snow]

you do like waking up early

i have not even gone to bed

[olive sable]

I dont really like it

[rigid snow]

ok correction, you do seem to wake up early often

[olive sable]

Ussualy i stay up late till 4am or so, but when i have classes i just wait till the evening to sleep

[opaque sigil]

Oh right it's Monday huh

[olive sable]

Yep

[flint dome]

you may have to wire/solder a port

[olive sable]

honestly the windows instal usb thing is giving me more issues than installing linux was

it wouldnt show the ssd i wanted to install on

ended up disabeling the intel VMD shit in the bios for it to work

[olive sable]

erm, teacher is sick

i have 7 hours now

[tender helm]

Every Monday, I'm always so busy.

😂

[olive sable]

all the powers of 2 higher than 0 are even numbers, while all the powers of 2 lequal to 0 are odd

[abstract badge]

is crystaldiskinfo good for checking faulty disk?

Or are there anything better

[nocturne olive]

Well you'd want an actual disk checker for that, diskinfo only tells you what the disk itself reports

So with an SSD it only tells you based on the expected write endurance and written bytes

It won't tell you if the drive is actually faulty, just if it's predicted to be faulty

[abstract badge]

I see

[nocturne olive]

Speaking of diskinfo are there Linux alternatives?

[abstract badge]

Idk, didn't check

[dry charm]

Gsmartcontrol

uses same SMART comm

[nocturne olive]

Well looks like it works on all but the NVMe drives

[young plover]

Well it's collecting data for self-driving cars to avoid flattening cyclists. I'd say no.

[faint sandal]

ur kidding me

[signal trout]

All of them

[jagged turtle]

captcha design

[sage crag]

wrr

has this happen to me yesterday, i just picked every square and got it wrong

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

[trim jungle]

[faint sandal]

i think that's the opposite of future

[maiden geyser]

clearly, you have never tried to hack the mainframe

[dry charm]

idk i would live in a future where i can run split tmux and other cli software on a 2009 laptop in a suitcase

or screen, it does not have tmux status

[fallen thunder]

hakerman

[faint sandal]

what the hell kinda render cache is resolve making

that's in ONE PROJECT

[fallen thunder]

holy

lol

i had my HDD connected by SATA, but for some reason it keeps freezing my PC

now i have to get a HDD container that uses USB-C 😭

[nocturne olive]

Maybe cable making bad contact?

[fallen thunder]

i've swapped it out twice and still the same

[nocturne olive]

I had one of my 8TB drives making bad contact once and it would be capable of completely locking up

[fallen thunder]

and diff SATA ports

[maiden geyser]

"current transformator must never be open circuited"
"SCT-013-000 recommended for use in this project"
it has a 3.5 TRS male connector with no locking mechanism
this needs to be studied

[fallen thunder]

plug into wall

i see fork

metal chopstick

[maiden geyser]

no need to plug into wall, it's supposed to be clipped on a wire with 220v

[fallen thunder]

plug wire into wall then sticky tape to wire

[primal quail]

the dutch inside of me just got a little upset lmao

[fair horizon]

I do not regret what I did

[rigid wolf]

I peek once into this channel (I dont program) and the first thing I see is this 😭

how do you even

[fair horizon]

Yes

[sick owl]

1 billion active parameters model casually nipping at Groks heels in translation quality

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/gucky-duck-stretching-back-duck-stretching-back-gif-21743571

[fair horizon]

Bold statement, but personally I agree with that

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1427626771603390555/yippee-1.gif

[rigid snow]

what happened why we ded

[obsidian mantle]

Approaching equilibrium
No discussions required

Or maybe its just monday

[uneven frost]

i wonder if the 3d implementation used something like ChatPose https://yfeng95.github.io/ChatPose/

then somehow interpolates between poses neuro chooses?

[sage crag]

you neon colour wrr

[uneven frost]

wat

[sage crag]

[mighty thorn]

Already hacking poor lava lamp

[tender river]

lamp

[rigid snow]

neuro-sama stream sync open flame

your house burning down same color as on stream

i am seeking $250,000 for tge idea

[tender river]

me interested

will donate

my entire income for past half a year

i expect 10% of your profits in return

[cobalt vessel]

happy leafday

[sage crag]

shiro

mode

[faint sandal]

[sage crag]

[merry steppe]

Lol

Nice catch though

[safe path]

hi, im a dev of several years and today im telling u a mistake i've kept making

[[]] * 13 is not the same as [[] for _ in range(13)]

i have made this mistake every single time i needed to do this and i still never learn

dont be like me

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[primal quail]

thank you for your ted talk it was enlightening

i’ve been considering pivoting out of my current career and taking a programming traineeship so this will be useful

[leaden fractal]

me "Fucking crazy sociopath who makes 2D anime daughters."

[faint sandal]

??

[leaden fractal]

I'm trying

[indigo oriole]

can someone help. It can find the file, but is unable to execute it, idk what else to do

[leaden fractal]

Vedal is a god

HOW???

[obsidian mantle]

It looks like it runs it?

[young plover]

Is there a way for you to print out ffmpeg's stderr?

[indigo oriole]

It's not playing anything though

[indigo oriole]

how do i do that?

[young plover]

idk, never seen whatever discord audio library you're using, just normal python subprocess

[indigo oriole]

discord.py

discord[audio]

sorry if I am speaking nonsense, I literally have 0 experience coding

[young plover]

Found it. You should be able to do something like

with open("ffmpeg.log", "w") as ffmpeg_log:
    voice_client.play(discord.FFmpegOpusAudio(source=song_path, executable="bin/ffmpeg/ffmpeg.exe", stderr=ffmpeg_log, **FFMPEG_OPTIONS))

To get a log file

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#ffmpegopusaudio

[nimble tusk]

Why, why in the world do I have a link to this message on my phone's clipboard?

[rigid snow]

sick

[indigo oriole]

ok

it finally works

😭

she's singing 😭

[olive sable]

Cuz im just so very cool ofcourse

Goodmorning #programming

Happy birthday chayleaf 🎉

I know im late on the birthday but i had a busy day monday

[amber fractal]

I should also say happy birthday

(also I forgot to say something for quack's )

[manic jacinth]

Google may have unlocked continuous learning: https://research.google/blog/introducing-nested-learning-a-new-ml-paradigm-for-continual-learning/

[uneven siren]

That is pretty crazy.

[hard raptor]

alr

time to learn java

[rigid snow]

are you

happy birday chay

(is today i think)

[midnight sigil]

now that's a ToS moment

[rigid snow]

why how

[nocturne olive]

Why not Kotlin thou?

[hard raptor]

we got java 25

kotlin is obsolete

[nocturne olive]

Wa

Kotlin's great though, Java still sucks

[hard raptor]

also most of the things i wanna do don't have good tutorials for kotlin

[hard raptor]

both suck

the whole jvm sucks

but i wanna write paper plugins and fabric mods

[nocturne olive]

Well you can do that with Kotlin

[hard raptor]

so i NEED to suffer if i ever wanna

[hard raptor]

please refer to #programming message before i lose my temper

[nocturne olive]

Who needs tutorials anyway, just look at the docs

Tutorials are kinda pointless

[hard raptor]

they SUCK

[nocturne olive]

Tutorials suck more

[hard raptor]

are they?

[nocturne olive]

Well they've never helped me anywhere near as much as just, reading the docs

[hard raptor]

i mean.. i didn't get as far as i am nbow without watching them

[hard raptor]

Yeah no.. some people learn better one way and some the other

don't invalidate someone based on the methods that help them if the methods don

't help you

[nocturne olive]

Either way, you can 100% do really good Fabric mods and stuff with Kotlin

[hard raptor]

STOP FORCING ME TO USE KOTLIN

[nocturne olive]

I'm not forcing
I'm telling you it's good so you use it voluntarily

[hard raptor]

NO ITS NOT.. I CAN'T USE IT FOR SHIT

[nocturne olive]

100% of Kotlin devs I know say it's great

[hard raptor]

BECAUSE IT SUCKSD

FOR ME

[dry charm]

if you are not doing mods in Kotlin, you are missing out and just painful

We could avoid a lot of boilerplate and headaches by using DSL

interact only GUIs were blissful

[nocturne olive]

Expected

[olive sable]

Oh the role hadnt updated yet or something on my phone

[tender river]

references

there was also that one go issue with variables being captured by reference instead of by value

[obsidian mantle]

Does anyone know why my vpn works slower through wifi than through cellular

Only on phone

[tender river]

thanks sam

[tender river]

ty iggly 🐸

[tender river]

and you

[olive sable]

"You"

[sage crag]

mugsmug high form of praise

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

with Osu(id, secret) as cl:
  for user in cl.get("users", ids=[34945353, 14706828]).users:
    print(f"{user.username}: {user.statistics_rulesets.osu.pp}")

osu api

wrr

[nocturne olive]

Wa

Now make it run on Kotlin

[sage crag]

ne

[uncut panther]

Happy Birthday chayleaf

[hard raptor]

and back to bitwig she goes (until end of the month)

gosh i miss serum and pigments

[rigid snow]

bitwig very based

[tender river]

true!

[radiant anvil]

what a hell

why

[fair horizon]

I sure hate it when the , , , , , the

[maiden geyser]

what the flip is your pfp

[hearty notch]

get fucked ciborium

[olive sable]

not me changing the firmware ont he 3d printer for a 12th time

[tender river]

@sage crag sam stole my tpyo

[olive sable]

the "ont he"?

[tender river]

the ont

[olive sable]

i do this a lot tho

[tender river]

[sage crag]

explod samuel

[olive sable]

😭

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[olive sable]

so i have discovered that a 3D printer is basically just a small linux pc with motors

so im customizing it

[obsidian mantle]

[olive sable]

fluidd and mainsail are now installed as localhost

[hard raptor]

Someone i talked to wants to know if there is a program besides VRoid Studio and Unity that can edit .vrm models

[gritty dust]

there's blender and stuff

I think csp can too

[true hemlock]

im so cooked bro

my 7950x es is stepping 0, apparently with CPUID of A60F00

and even the AGESA 1.0.0 on both the X670 and B650 bios doesn't have it

[olive sable]

words

[true hemlock]

dude

i found out

that the X670 bios

supported B40F00 and B40F40

which is

9000 SERIES ES AND QS

agesa 1.1.7 BTW

so a pretty old bios on te 600 series chipset, was still 7000 series era

let me revise
i became a bios modder, silicon stepping analyst (have the whole database now aswell), learned to read LUT HEX entries
all overnight, just to realize that my chip is one (or two) stepping behind from the AGESA microcode

[maiden geyser]

now i am become modder, the analyst of silicons

[old totem]

hello chat

im really mad

how do i make a timer

that does the thing

while i do other thing

okay sorry proper context

I want to make a program where every 2-5 minutes randomly, i hear a bell that forces me to alt tab to my anki deck app to learn japanese

and if i dont do the stuffs it blocks my keyboard and mouse inputs

for like 10 seconds

the idea here is that i have this program running while playing games or doing something else

[fallen thunder]

aw can't embed image

was gonna show 30 lines of imports in python

lul

[obsidian mantle]

i dont see where you are updating the "start"

and i dont get why you are breaking the loop and sleep

just make "start = now" instead of sleep and remove break

oh hold up you have while in while

[old totem]

well

first while is the entire program itself

2nd while has breaks with conditions

[obsidian mantle]

when do you want it to ring?
somewhere here?

ohh wait i didnt read your message properly

[old totem]

yeah

i did some hard coding

this one does work

but idk how "expert" it is

aka sleep 1 milli second

variable ++ each loop

eventually reaching 5 seconds

then reset

[obsidian mantle]

usually i make timers like this

[old totem]

oh nce

[obsidian mantle]

nono i was about to type how i do it

so

[old totem]

oh nvm

[obsidian mantle]

you remember start time
then you check current time
when current time - start time > threshold you trigger whatever you want
you update start time (assign start time to now)
then it will just wait until the trigger condition triggers again and repeats the loop

no need to break loops or anything

[obsidian mantle]

however i dont get how you do this part

[old totem]

i have a function

when i run my program

it randomly picks a number

counts up to that number

and then picks a new one after

[obsidian mantle]

its better to transform number into seconds and then use chrono time

then you will not depend on cpu load or whatever. however if you use sleep to count time, it will work too

[old totem]

idk cpu load stuff

[obsidian mantle]

it probably does your thing instantly so it doesnt matter

[old totem]

i just wanna force myself to learn japanese with my sub level programming skills

[old totem]

yeah im not sure about its longevity

cuz i wanan run this program like

the entire pc runtime

cuz well im studying with it

[obsidian mantle]

well i guess you dont care if it will become not 5 minutes but 5.00001 minutes or smth

[old totem]

ohh

well the time is not the issue for me its the studying part

i hope it works

[olive sable]

it took 3 hours but i figured out how the harware interacts witht hte config file, so now i can use custom parts ont he 3D printer

[obsidian mantle]

0.5s to react is quite fast though

[olive sable]

also frick BIQU MicroProbe, that thing uses the inverse pin layout as the official creality one for no fuckin reason

this litle ! not being there in pin: ^!PB1 caused me 2 hours of pain

[sick owl]

Now that the llama.cpp implementation is fixed gpt oss 20b happens to run a little faster for me

[dusky jackal]

Is it any good?

[sick owl]

Very, at least if you want a tool calling assistant type of thing which is what I'm after

[true hemlock]

pretty fast of a model but its pretty shit for its size apparently

possibly due to that its running on NVFP4 for most of its weights

dang

oh its also moe slop

lmao

at least it does run fast

it's a pretty crap model imo, it's fairly dumb for its size. most of its thinking trace is spent debating with itself whether it's allowed to answer a given query
from a friend that tried it

debating with itself
this is just straight up funny

[sick owl]

Thats been far from my experience

It got off to a bad start which hurt its rep though since the GGUFs were broken on launch

And remained that way for like a month afterwards

[true hemlock]

my friend didn't use the gguf one i think

[sick owl]

Tell ya what, shoot me over a test question to put to it

[true hemlock]

also gguf was broken because nvfp4

[sick owl]

I have it running on high reasoning effort unquantized in a controlled local environment which is basically the best test case for its quality

[true hemlock]

what do you exactly mean by "controlled local environment"

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1433049661270261871/ShouldICelebrate.gif

[sick owl]

I run it via a copy of llama.cpp I compiled from source with optimised flags for my hardware, and know the model is running with optimal sampler settings, system prompt and chat template since the entire pipeline is local

Cloud services introduce a degree of unpredictability that isn't there running it this way

[true hemlock]

finally a more readable sentences

[true hemlock]

huh

[sick owl]

I just didn't want to be overly wordy with it

[true hemlock]

its 4:30 am in my place rn i got hit with insomnia :)

[sick owl]

o7

[true hemlock]

contemplating whether i continue writing a bit on 2 of my thesis

or just knock myself down hard to sleep

i've not been touching llms for so long either

maybe i could when i have the time to i have shit tons of gpus lying around my room just being collections

hey

could probably make all of them run AlphaFold

time to take advantage of my insomnia ig

[olive sable]

[hearty notch]

[true hemlock]

loving

[olive sable]

holy ram

[hearty notch]

that's a lotta chip

[snow hare]

Wish I had that rn

Building flashattn

[true hemlock]

im tempted

to

get a dual socket 2dpc epyc board

and insert like

48 sticks on a single motherboard

[uneven pulsar]

for a sec i thought it was green moldy radiotor

[snow hare]

It is basically a space heater

[uneven pulsar]

true

[sage crag]

its secretly sodimm and quuck is using perspective to make it look normal

🦆 <-

[olive sable]

its secretly ddr2 ewaste

[nocturne olive]

Such a silly and peak usecase for a gigantic pile of GPUs

[nocturne olive]

Wa

[sage crag]

waa <- sam cry maele

[umbral thorn]

he so wasted

[sage crag]

qhen yku cn measur in newton instead
-quck 2025

[tender river]

[olive sable]

???

Waa

[sage crag]

Waa <- sam cry maele

[olive sable]

But why?

Why did i do?

[amber fractal]

exist

[olive sable]

This is slander

[nocturne olive]

drunk or something?

[sage crag]

<-

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Defamation

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

I will sue you for 5 milion neuros

[sage crag]

me cant pay owing to the fact i am not real

[olive sable]

Then pay me in unreal money

[gritty dust]

cry about it

[olive sable]

[young plover]

Neuro attempted to write a fast-fourier transform in C++
she didn't get past the function signature lol

python codebases longer than 100 lines make me want to throw up
unfathomably based

[olive sable]

hi operator

[viral oasis]

hi

[olive sable]

[viral oasis]

[olive sable]

[viral oasis]

awawaw

[stark needle]

im gonna explode

[viral oasis]

nyoooooom!

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/rwk-priest-crow-awawawawa-awa-azumanga-daioh-gif-24354610

[viral oasis]

Nyoom machine

[stark needle]

omg that's me

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

sam i hope u are having a nice day ok yes nyoom hi amogus lol

[viral oasis]

sam lilac told me u smell like sam

[olive sable]

checks out

i have been told i smell like sam

[stark needle]

can i smell you

[viral oasis]

[olive sable]

erm

[opal skiff]

dont be weird

• not a mod im coping

[olive sable]

nah its fine

we're friends

[viral oasis]

erm

[stark needle]

sam knows i am a bit schizo

[olive sable]

5 bucks

[viral oasis]

a bit?

[opal skiff]

what a coincidence so am i

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

ok so are we friends now

[olive sable]

now that you reminded me i do need to take a shower tomorrow

[viral oasis]

whats a shower.

can I code it?

[olive sable]

its like a bath but worse

[viral oasis]

water isn't real

[stark needle]

i had a bath yesterday for first time in years

my lung capacity is fucked

[olive sable]

watercooling tho

[stark needle]

true

[viral oasis]

i just tough it out, my computer is a free space heater.

[olive sable]

idk if id call it "free"

[viral oasis]

free enough

[olive sable]

crypto mining radiator

[stark needle]

free cause u didn't buy it + ur unemployed which is the truth

[viral oasis]

nuh i partially paid for it ;'[

[olive sable]

guys i have a shopping adiction

[viral oasis]

(steals ur shoes)

[olive sable]

im this close to spending 45 bucks on new 3d printer parts

[rigid snow]

you paid for the computer functionality of the computer hence why the space heater part is free

[olive sable]

you still pay for the electricity

[viral oasis]

its free if I believe it to be ;[

[olive sable]

manifest that shit

[rigid snow]

"free space heater" does not imply anything about your electricity situation

"free microwave" oh no i have to pay for electricity still not free scam

[olive sable]

does free there only imply hardware itself?

[stark needle]

when we meet i'll bring an iphone and make a 3d scan of your body and i'll print it out 1/7 scale

[olive sable]

tbh id rather not do that

[rigid snow]

he'll do that when you least expect it

when you sleep[

[olive sable]

oh no

i do not consent to any form of 2D or 3D images made of me, through any form of scanning, photography, or photogrammetry

[viral oasis]

i will now make you into a funko pop

[olive sable]

if you make images of me, i could easily make images of you

unless you wear like a fake mustache and a hat

[viral oasis]

yes

[olive sable]

ontop of your real mustache ofcourse

[viral oasis]

i will now turn you into a nft

[olive sable]

norwegian freight train

[olive sable]

could i get them back now?

[amber fractal]

-# he is not getting his shoes back

[mighty thorn]

what do you think are the chances i can find a specific sublayer of llm weights to allow finetuning an instruct model on text completion data without destroying the instruct part?

[olive sable]

my shoes

[olive sable]

uhm

like

13%????

idfk

[amber fractal]

[mighty thorn]

noted

found out about gemma3n last night

i'll be honest it kinda sucks really bad

but

i still like

video input is just image frames, so it isn't real

and audio input...

well..

it's real

[olive sable]

Welp. I calibrated all the sensor shit, i homed the z axis properly begore the print, and then it just ran straight into the printbed

I think this means i need to replace it

Eh maybe later

[glad path]

how is it so smooth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBxo1cf7fDw

also i don't remember tahoe looking that nice

[olive sable]

yep its not flat anymore, big bump

i have a spare, altho this one isnt bendy nor magnetic

[stone loom]

a

[olive sable]

w

[stone loom]

How do you even put a code inside a website through a code

[olive sable]

what?

[stone loom]

Is that even possible

[olive sable]

i guess you jsut program it to forward the code???

[stone loom]

Not rlly

[olive sable]

[stone loom]

Import.....

Append....

Wait

Creating a pastebin link

Payloads???

Nvm I'm gonna sleep

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

erm, its cuz of the z offset being -0.3mm, and the bed mesh already 0'd it. so it tried to go -0.3mm into the bed

oops

in all fairness it should have warned me cuz i set that z offset for when i didnt have bed leveling installed yet

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

its like 14 bucks to replace the one i fucked up, not too bad

[true hemlock]

yo

14900 HX + board combo for like A$450

i think imma take

[indigo oriole]

o7

[craggy reef]

So, say I'm cleaning a data set in SAS. How many times do you think I can copy and paste a set statement with a keep command to split up my data set before it becomes a crime?

[midnight sigil]

music bots are banned iirc

[glad path]

uhmmm

print sterr idk

[young plover]

you... don't need to reply then?
that was yesterday and we already figured it out

[true hemlock]

no?

some are banned because of youtube API

[fallen thunder]

i shall make agi

[signal trout]

good luck with that quest

[fallen thunder]

ty, coding it up rn, done all the planning 😉

[indigo oriole]

I think I'm being gaslighted here

[indigo oriole]

it's because of the yt stuff. I am playing songs locally

[nocturne olive]

Sure what's the base arch?

[indigo oriole]

I managed to piss off the AI

[midnight sigil]

that's why

I see

I thought the act of playing music is not allow for bots

[indigo oriole]

I mean, they can disable it completely

and I dont think you will get banned even if you do it, as long as it's not widespread

[midnight sigil]

MEE6

[opaque sigil]

Don't make money off it and it's a non-issue

[hard raptor]

okay... so.. imma try experimenting with compatibility layers like yabridge because i really wanna use serum

[hasty wolf]

Hello, I am bored from my computer science course, what can I do?

[nocturne olive]

Figure out something you actually want to make and go program that instead

[hasty wolf]

My teacher is currently talking about graph, in oCaml

[hard raptor]

Okay this was way easier than i thought

[nocturne olive]

Wa

[hard raptor]

okay but i can't interact with the UI.. frick

[nocturne olive]

I have no clue what you're doing

[autumn ore]

anyone wanna make a neuro integration with me

[hard raptor]

trying to use windows native VSTs in linux

[nocturne olive]

For what?

[autumn ore]

Also I made a gorilla tag neuro integration lol

[autumn ore]

Mcsm

[nocturne olive]

That seems silly

Wa?

[hard raptor]

why?

[nocturne olive]

I sure couldn't figure out how to do that

[autumn ore]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1438079333859069993

[nocturne olive]

Isn't that game like abandonedware and also like basically lost software?

[autumn ore]

No?

[fallen thunder]

secret

encode to a unified stream for all modal inputs, patching, and some secret sauce in middle

[nocturne olive]

Well have you even figured out how to mod it?

[autumn ore]

My phone btw

[autumn ore]

Yes, and there are ways around if I can’t

[nocturne olive]

Oh a mobile game
That's either really easy to mod or really stupid hard

[autumn ore]

Both pc and mobile and console

[nocturne olive]

Have you decompiled the mobile version? If it's a direct Android port made natively to run on it that may be the best starting point

[autumn ore]

Will do pc version

[autumn ore]

It uses telltale engine

[nocturne olive]

And is it JVM or native?

[autumn ore]

Let me check

[nocturne olive]

Typically Android stuff is JVM

And JVM is stupid easy to decompile and mod

[autumn ore]

I mean you can use https://elmcip.net/platformsoftware/telltale-tool

And it would be for the pc build

And https://github.com/Telltale-Modding-Group

Use that for changing Jesse into neuro

[nocturne olive]

Oh is it C#? That makes things real easy

[autumn ore]

And use a python script for controls

[nocturne olive]

Ew no Python

Do it in the game's native lang

[autumn ore]

Native lang is lua

[nocturne olive]

No there's 0 shot the engine is in LUA

Yeah the engine is not LUA under the hood
The LUA part is the stuff built on top

Well since the game's front parts are LUA it should be trivial to simply edit the LUA scripts

[autumn ore]

You could DLL inject?

[nocturne olive]

Na no need

Just go edit the LUA scripts of the game

LUA is a plaintext interpreted language

[autumn ore]

The library’s don’t have the stuff to run a neuro integration as it can’t create ports

[nocturne olive]

Then you simply use whatever the engine gives you to add those functionalities
It must have some way to either network or interact with system APIs or load libraries

[autumn ore]

Raaaah I don’t know what to make it with

The telltale modding discord has invites paused

[jagged turtle]

considering it doesn't even check if there's updates or anything even I don't think it would have any networking capabilities

(at least I don't think it checks updates)

[nocturne olive]

Who knows with such weird old obscure engine

[dry charm]

What engine does telltale games use anyway

[nocturne olive]

Telltale engine, obviously

[dry charm]

Ah, it uses weird compressed archive + lua

There is an editor I found, but only for Walking Dead

[jagged turtle]

literally why

[autumn ore]

Telltale editor works

Well gn

[hard raptor]

just tried remixing a demo song

[dry crest]

Dude I’m just trying to learn AI but when looking up MLP YouTube shoves my little pony content in my face. Why!?

[maiden geyser]

it may seem like you're not the brightest fella

[fast pagoda]

little known fact that this is directly vedal's fault

[nocturne olive]

Search "multilayer perceptron" instead probably
MLP is a common way to shorten both

[fast pagoda]

the transformer was inspired by the ponies transforming the power of friendship into merchandise sales

[nocturne olive]

But also just look at 3b1b's videos they're good

[dry crest]

Thx

[leaden fractal]

Hey guys

I have a T3000 case and a dual 3090/3090ti setup Do you know of any riser cables?

[nocturne olive]

I don't but you can't get them to work you can totally donate to NSP

[fallen thunder]

amazon usually has em

just search "pcie riser cables"

[clear sedge]

wtf is this

[shadow sinew]

I guess it is sorta useful and you "only" need to embed the entire unicode table of names in your compiler.

[clear sedge]

i'd rather eat dirt

[worldly plank]

Where in [filtered] did you find that [filtered]?

[olive sable]

Awawawa

[clear sedge]

c++23

[tender river]

true!

[clear sedge]

i can't believe it's still your birthday

[olive sable]

[clear sedge]

the shiro curse is upon you

[tender river]

oh @cobalt vessel remove me birthday role pls

[hearty notch]

the goat of educational yt

welchlabs also v good for ml

[maiden geyser]

absolutely huge news for the next dev stream

upd: oh, it's from july

[olive sable]

uhm

what am i supposed to be seeing here?

[maiden geyser]

markdown formatting in notepad

[karmic birch]

noo.. MS Edit the best editor

[mighty thorn]

Windows 10 notepad is the single best exe file ever compiled

Windows 11 notepad has a bunch of stuff I really like but the spellcheck and copilot stuff makes it slow

[obsidian mantle]

my win11 notepad works in 15 fps and i have no idea how to fix it and why it is like that

[gritty dust]

If I see someone else program in a notepad file I'm gonna crash out

[mighty thorn]

No not programming m

Just for literally anything else involving text

[obsidian mantle]

its much better with syntax highlight though

and things like vscode allow you to quickly look up the definition of a variable for example which notepads dont allow

[amber fractal]

I still do this whenever I'm on windows

[obsidian mantle]

idk i prefer vscode as code editor its just better
(search sucks)

[gritty dust]

same

[obsidian mantle]

for search i use notepad++

once a year i need to search binary code of txt across many files and i dont know how to do that in np++

but apart from that its perfect

[mighty thorn]

IntelliJ IDEA is what I use for programming

[obsidian mantle]

never tried, is it hard to set up? why is it better than vscode?

is it linux only?

[nocturne olive]

For JVM IntelliJ is the ultimate tool

Java and Kotlin, it's peak

[obsidian mantle]

hmm i guess i cant imagine what it gives you considering idk how jvm works

[nocturne olive]

It has a ton of cool stuff
It even comes with a Java decompiler

[viral oasis]

notepad gang

[viral oasis]

https://www.voidtools.com/support/everything/ Is a really good tool for general search from my experience as well.

[olive sable]

ye

if you genuinly use notepad for your daily coding you need to go to a psychologist or something tho

[viral oasis]

i dont but now i want to just to spite you

[olive sable]

spite is respectable

if its just because you're too lazy to install vscode, that's different

i fucking hate cloud slicing

creality cloud is suchy a scam of an app

if my pc can slice a 3D model in 2 seconds, then my phone can do it in 10min at most

instead i get put in a fucking queue for 2 hours cuz the slicing is happening in the cloud

[viral oasis]

i should make it so if anyone ever bugs me about open sourcing celeste, I send them a emoji-code version of her software. https://www.emojicode.org/

  😀 🔤Hello world!🔤❗️
🍉```

[hearty notch]

oh for a second I thought you were the creator of Celeste the game and I was like holy fuck

[viral oasis]

i get that sometimes ;[

i havent played it tho, seems fun

[hearty notch]

I'm not a precision platformer gamer I don't have the patience

I know people who love that game dearly tho

[maiden geyser]

now i'm getting twitch turbo ads
something is happening

[olive sable]

platformer games make me pull my hair out

i prefer cool open world games

story telling and graphics and such

[viral oasis]

I'd try anything atleast once myself.

[olive sable]

yes

[hearty notch]

hell yea

[viral oasis]

wait u havent?

[obsidian mantle]

what

[olive sable]

i aint made of money you know

and i know you aint either

[obsidian mantle]

this escalated quickly

[viral oasis]

Gib

[hearty notch]

[olive sable]

market rate here is different

lets stop right here before the mods kill us

[hearty notch]

so true

[olive sable]

so anyways

[hearty notch]

farewell if I get timed out I'll see y'all later

[viral oasis]

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

[hearty notch]

[obsidian mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-gif-2981399524433298549

[olive sable]

for any mods here, i was referencing the belgian youtuber acid

[safe path]

[viral oasis]

[obsidian mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-14094131424741016653

[mighty thorn]

As someone who wasn’t paying attention, I believe you

[olive sable]

[viral oasis]

I would like to go on record, that I ate the record.

[amber fractal]

my innocence

[sage crag]

banorsigma

[safe path]

hi

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1433049661270261871/ShouldICelebrate.gif

[mighty thorn]

Hello vanorsigma

[olive sable]

I fucked up some printer setting again, but i now have 4 sharks and only 2 are handicapped

its on my keyboard cuz the rest of my desk is now filled with microplastics form the supports

tinkering with all the litle settings is becoming annoying tho

[obsidian mantle]

[sullen agate]

I envy you

[obsidian mantle]

did you model it yourself too or its some stock thing

[sullen agate]

i want printer too

[olive sable]

it was 2ndhand

not too expensive

[obsidian mantle]

finally submitted my bot

almost forgot to do it

[rigid snow]

it happening

steam frame, steam controller (new) and steam machine

[opaque sigil]

that controller looks uncomfy af but i'm sure it's not

[obsidian mantle]

what are those big ass square buttons for

[rigid snow]

it looks goofy as hell fr

[opaque sigil]

those are touch pads

[rigid snow]

trackpads like on the deck

[obsidian mantle]

oh like laptop touchpads?

[olive sable]

kinda ye

[obsidian mantle]

damn probably good for precise aiming

[rigid snow]

exactly like the steam deck ones

[rigid snow]

wouldn’t be surprised if exact same part

[olive sable]

no stick drift either if it uses the deck sticks

[rigid snow]

let’s talk about the cube

cube console

[olive sable]

i thought that was the tracking station lol

[rigid snow]

no it steam machine

(new)

[olive sable]

i feel like a cube for the proccesing, so the headset is lighter, is good

specialized hardware to interact with the headset is possible that way too

idk if they're doing that, but they could

[rigid snow]

no not really

[olive sable]

why wouldnt it be?

[rigid snow]

vision pro is stupid because it has the silly external battery

[olive sable]

this is wireless tho

[rigid snow]

yes that’s the point it’s not pcvr it’s standalone

well it is pcvr

i think at least

but it is standalone

[olive sable]

i feel like the headset hardware itslef isn't that special

mostly the software stuff is nice

[rigid snow]

wait valve says “streaming-first”

BOO

[olive sable]

?

it streams from the box to the headset always no?

you can connect it to a pc tho afaik

[rigid snow]

it is standalone tho, snapdragon 8

but they really want you to stream

[faint sandal]

you can run things locally on the headset

[rigid snow]

from your pc

[rigid snow]

ye ^

[olive sable]

wait

[faint sandal]

just works best when streamed with beefier hardware

[olive sable]

what is the box for if it doesnt have the gpu and stuff?

[rigid snow]

the box is the steam machine my guy

steam os gaming console

[olive sable]

it thought the whole point of the box was for the cpu gpu stuff

[rigid snow]

it’s a console like you know

[faint sandal]

see gn's coverage on the construction of the steam machine

[rigid snow]

xbox

[faint sandal]

https://youtu.be/bWUxObt1efQ

[rigid snow]

playstation