programming

[tender river]

[sage crag]

wrr

[uneven pulsar]

you can disable em no?

[sage crag]

someone didnt read

[tender river]

talking about builtin settings

[uneven pulsar]

i use bitwarden

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

good idea if you dont wanna manage your own files i think keepassxc more flexible though

[sage crag]

nix config eee

[tender river]

i store password db on my nextcloud server

[sage crag]

it surprised me that nix lets you do plaintext passwords if you try hard enough

not even just hashed passwords

[tender river]

db itself is encrypted and every device it syncs to additionally has full disk encryption

pretty secure

[sage crag]

luks luks luks

wrr

[olive sable]

[maiden geyser]

opera gx

[opaque sigil]

users.users.${currentUsername} = {
  isNormalUser = true;
  extraGroups = [ ];
  initialPassword = "password";
};

[tender river]

lots of nixos modules struggle from that like service config requires hardcoded password but nix store files are always world-readable so you have to do runtime substitution which is a bit of a pain

want more different kinds of tea supermarkets always sell the same ones

[maiden geyser]

you won't believe this, but we on windows have something similar, it's called scrcpy

[olive sable]

Grow tea

[tender river]

like

where

[uneven pulsar]

lol i don't wanna cast my phone to pc i wanted an emulator or something

[olive sable]

I was having a hard time reading chat cuz i was trying to read it as french

[olive sable]

Idk how big those plants are

[tender river]

its only a few kilograms of dried leaves a year how hard could it be

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

acquire land

[maiden geyser]

in this economy?

[rigid snow]

you have no idea how cheap land is in this country

no joke

[tender river]

random other facts about my config
i store my ssh keys in keepass and they get autoadded to ssh agent (actually gpg agent), when i ssh somewhere or sign my git commits with gpg its just a keepass prompt away
and also i have sudo askpass (only used when -A flag passed to sudo) set to look up my root password in my keepass db so i have a gui prompt "allow/deny" instead of text prompt probably least secure part of my config but it's convenient

[tender river]

i'm mostly worried about the climate not space honestly

[rigid snow]

ye it began as a joke

[tender river]

me not bored enough to grow tea in siberia

maybe herbal tea

[rigid snow]

grow yourself

[uneven pulsar]

anyway which country is largest producer of tea

[tender river]

✅ good idea

[mighty thorn]

Has anyone on earth cracked the code of making a better STT model than whisper v3?

[tender river]

nog aether ritual

[humble tapir]

Not yet no.

[topaz frigate]

Woah that amazing you have started building it already, but yeah my end goal isn't neuro or evil but something like neuro and evil

An ai that act so closely to human as they are sentience

[mighty thorn]

Okay I made the prompt more vague and it’s down to like 50/50 but I believe in you guys

[sage crag]

frognog

[olive sable]

Dont nog the frog

[glad path]

ive just been tryinrg to make the most autonomous ai possible

its hard because literally everything nowdays is designed for the ai to talk to a human

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

Im glad my 3d printer has a camera and that i can pause it remotly, cuz there has been a crucial failure

[sage crag]

frogsmog

[olive sable]

My shelf is not square nor flat

[sage crag]

its not there or square

[tender river]

its not frog or smog

✅

[sage crag]

mugsmug

[tender river]

---

🧁

immaculate balance

[sage crag]

careful mugsmug there is a weak breeze

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[topaz frigate]

I see

[topaz frigate]

What do you mean?

[glad path]

no one really seems to be making autonomous ai

its all chat driven

[sage crag]

me define new prime number, pnorkle, such that two + pnorkle = two, where pnorkle ≠ zero

[tender river]

noneuclidean number line

[topaz frigate]

Ooooh

[topaz frigate]

Then how do you see neuro?
As in what kind of ai would it be?

[glad path]

still chat driven

fundementally

[sage crag]

oh ye also, pnorkle is odd

[glad path]

but she can ramble on by herself

[tender river]

i agree it definitely is

[glad path]

which is the thing i've been trying to achieve

[sage crag]

[topaz frigate]

Yeah i cna see that

[sage crag]

@true hemlock

[glad path]

whar

[topaz frigate]

Yes, from things she learn from chat

[topaz frigate]

Oh keep me update if possible, i'm interested in seeing what you achieve

[sage crag]

bee zee zee zee

[young plover]

Claude can do its own thing for days.
Eventually it will loop if it makes no progress on its task though.

[tender river]

when are you planning ieee standardization

[young plover]

ClaudePlaysPokemon is painful to watch

[hard raptor]

The same program? Or a different one with the same name?

Floorp is firefox based vivaldi

Edge on linux? https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/microsoft-edge-stable-bin been using it for years

[glad path]

whyy

[hard raptor]

Just because

Edge isn't even a bad browser imo

[uneven pulsar]

nvm i figured it out myself

w android studio

it has emulator built in

to run android apps

on top of that i can run latest android 16

on pc

[glad path]

i hate android studio personally

its like really buggy sometimes

but it does have an emulator built in

which is cool

[sage crag]

already

hidden feature

[glad path]

unfortunately it's useless for me

[sage crag]

secret

[tender river]

[glad path]

since i need physical hardware to test the code

[tender river]

unpublished ieee

[glad path]

due to what the code is

[rigid snow]

secret standard

[glad path]

(i installed android studio for one thing only)

[rigid snow]

🐸

[sage crag]

ne

published

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

just secret

[rigid snow]

nieee

[sage crag]

on every ieee compliant machine

they dont know about it yet

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

implememted too

damn

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

ye

[uneven pulsar]

i tried using bluestacks for one of the app i wanted to run on pc but it was crashing constantly but it worked flawlessly on android studio

[sage crag]

🐸

[tender river]

frogsmug

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Both suck

[rigid snow]

android sucks

[olive sable]

Emulation will never run flawlesly

Running nativly is where its at

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

yeah lemme just run android natively on my x86 windows machine

[sage crag]

toast.🔥

[rigid snow]

why not

[sage crag]

device tree

[rigid snow]

port

[opaque sigil]

doesn't android studio let you connect to a physical device instead of using their emulator or am i misremebering

[olive sable]

You have a phone, just run it there

[sage crag]

not android

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

what if you want to test different sdk version

ne

[opaque sigil]

flash your phone

duh

[rigid snow]

with a blowtorch

[maiden geyser]

android on an fpga

[tender river]

[glad path]

it does

[tender river]

waydroid only good experience i've ever had with android emulation

[rigid snow]

not emulation only good experience with emulation

[tender river]

be careful with your words or i won't stop at emulating android

[sage crag]

.heic

[tender river]

hey see

[sage crag]

i pronounce it as

hike

[tender river]

i pronounce it as heik

[sage crag]

the issue

[tender river]

with accent on i

[sage crag]

hey eek

[rigid snow]

hey eek

[tender river]

[hearty notch]

[tender river]

[glad path]

genchat literally just produced like 30 starboarded messages

whatr

[rigid snow]

proghgndrmaming

[glad path]

18 now 😭

[olive sable]

What was the context?

Twitch raid?

[sage crag]

raid ye

[uneven pulsar]

ya

[olive sable]

[civic flax]

Question

[olive sable]

ask

[civic flax]

I own a laptop, but in the loading screen it goes black, and loading something like Minecraft or a game that goes full screen makes the screen go black.

Everything works, it’s just the screen that goes black.

I updated the drivers and it’s still the same.

[olive sable]

update drivers i guess

oh

uhm

hmm

both the cpu and gpu drivers?

[civic flax]

It’s been going on for the past 3 months

[civic flax]

CPU you mean Windows?

[olive sable]

no

cpu is the cpu

[civic flax]

Not that I’m aware

All I do is go to Nvidia, and download the drivers

That’s all I do

[amber fractal]

Feels like this is beyond just GPU issues yeah.

[civic flax]

Worst thing is that this thing is just a year old

[hearty notch]

does it recover after black screen and what programs other than MC have this issue

[civic flax]

What I have to do is to open and close, hoping for the screen to go back to normal and it does

But by the time it’s fixed, Minecraft is closed

[olive sable]

if its a laptop where the screen is connected to the igpu, and the gpu jsut gets used for the rendering and not the screen, then the cpu drivers might need an update too for display issues

[civic flax]

And if I try to boot up the game, same thing

[olive sable]

my laptop does this, hasd to update intel drivers

[amber fractal]

Follow up question, does something like a fullscreen browser also have that issue?

[civic flax]

No

Another example when the screen goes black is with TF2

[olive sable]

im guessing it really is just the switch between igpu and dgpu

[civic flax]

How do I update them?

[olive sable]

intel/amd driver update are worth a shot

[civic flax]

Sometimes, the PC boots up fine, but sometimes it doesn’t, which is like… 90% of the time

[olive sable]

so its not just for games?

also just in general no screen sometimes?

[civic flax]

Yeah

[olive sable]

that changes things

[civic flax]

I have my headphones plugged in and I can hear the Windows boot up sound

[olive sable]

hmmm

[civic flax]

Even when opening Minecraft I was still able to listen to the title music

[amber fractal]

Cable issue?

[civic flax]

But the screen is black

[civic flax]

How so?

I’m scared if it’s something like that

[amber fractal]

Does the display fully disconnect or is it just black

[civic flax]

It only does it when Minecraft boots up

[olive sable]

i would jsut update the cpu drivers and see if that fixes anything, if it doesnt then this should be covered by the waranty

[civic flax]

I can keep the computer open for hours and no issues, no random black screens

Oh I forgot to mention

When I boot up the laptop, I can see the Victus logo and scroll wheel

Then, cuts to black

So it’s not a cable issue

And this is all the time

[civic flax]

This is done where?

Nvidia too?

[olive sable]

no

[amber fractal]

seconded

[olive sable]

cpu is the intel or amd

[civic flax]

I have an HP

[olive sable]

if you go to the hp website there should be drivers for your model

https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/laptops

[amber fractal]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/search.html#sort=%40lastmodifieddt descending&f:@tabfilter=[Downloads]&f:@stm_10385_en=[Graphics]
Otherwise general drivers, check HP first

[civic flax]

Opened the computer and Minecraft is fixed

But still, I’ll go and update the CPU

[olive sable]

what im geussing is the issue, is the igpu

but those drivers are included in the cpu drivers

[civic flax]

downloading this

[amber fractal]

This seems about right

[stray dragon]

vivaldi

[civic flax]

If this fixes it, i am indebted with you guys

[olive sable]

nah its fine

i dont want people to owe me

[amber fractal]

it's good, it is what we do

[civic flax]

Also, T was the one who recommended me the laptop

[amber fractal]

hi again t

[stray dragon]

hi iggly

[olive sable]

the specs are probably fine, jsut the classic hp split

[stray dragon]

another issue?

[civic flax]

its the same one

[stray dragon]

rip

[civic flax]

screen goes black after the initial booting screen and whenever Minecraft loads up

Something that happened was that after not using my laptop for like 2 weeks or so, Epic Games got corrupted

Same with Discord and Chrome

So what I did was to delete them all and download them again

[stray dragon]

unsafe shutdowns from the blackscreens probably fucking up the files

[hearty notch]

if all the driver reinstalls don't fix it you may want to consider reinstalling the whole o.s. and if that doesn't fix it it's probably some hardware issue

[civic flax]

I wanna see if I can take it somewhere to get it fixed but I am scared to try

[stray dragon]

try it

[amber fractal]

(Honestly for a laptop your better off doing it anyways to remove bloat )

[civic flax]

"Some files cound not be created.
You can try and repeat the installation after closing other applications and restarting Windows."

What I had open was Chrome, Nvidia, MC, and Steam

And Discorfd

[hearty notch]

boot into safe mode then open that installer again

tbh idk what w11 safe mode is like I havent had to use safe mode since the win8.1 years lmao

still a real thing tho

[civic flax]

I have never done this before

[amber fractal]

You have a bit more control since win 10 as you have safe mode without network and safe mode with network

[hearty notch]

it's ok it feels foreign but it's safe, as the name suggests

[civic flax]

And what is 5 or F5 networking

What is the difference?

[hearty notch]

boot it with networking or else you won't have Internet until restart again

[civic flax]

Might as well go with 4 or F4

[hearty notch]

safe boot without networking is to solve issues when your network drivers are fucking with you

but RN we're just trying to install other drivers

[civic flax]

So 4

[hearty notch]

I think you want with networking but I can't tell from what you described which is which

bc I don't remember the interface

[dark flame]

huge optimisation

[hearty notch]

congrats

[civic flax]

It prompted 4 options

Troubleshoot right?

[hearty notch]

what's "it" if it's the installer for the driver full reinstall is fine

[hearty notch]

yea troubleshoot I think

the point of safe mode RN and why we want it is it boots without starting the things you don't want started

so you can install the driver without conflict

[civic flax]

Okay, so that opens up two options, which is a restart, or advanced options

[hearty notch]

tell whats in advanced

[civic flax]

And these are the options

[hearty notch]

man idr how to just get in the boot mode we want lol

try the startup repair it might find something relevant either way

might as well, can't hurt

[civic flax]

The more recovery options is disten image recovery

That’s it

[hearty notch]

there's something called safe mode boot

idk how to get to the menu for it in current gen windows but a quick Google suggests it still exists

[civic flax]

Recovery key

It says that I don’t have a recovery key

[hearty notch]

I'm not sure how that's relevant exactly tbh

I'm lost now recovery key was not in my mental model of relevant to what we were doing

[civic flax]

I went with startup repair

It prompted with a recovery key

[hearty notch]

oh

[civic flax]

It also has a E12 with many numbers and letters with slashes

There’s other options like change keyboard layout and skip this drive

[hearty notch]

I'm not sure you might just want to cancel out of this and boot back into windows

was the menu in the first place something that had any mention of safe mode at any point

if you already were going to f5 safe mode with networking then you just wanted to boot

I just was unsure if you saw that prompt already

To boot Windows 11 into Safe Mode, go to the power menu, hold the Shift key, and select Restart. This will bring up the Advanced Startup options where you can select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings > Restart. After the computer restarts, press 4 or F4 for basic Safe Mode, or 5 or F5 for Safe Mode with Networking.

[civic flax]

I can’t go back

I am stuck at the startup repair screen

[hearty notch]

is there no cancel or shut down from there

that's bizarre

[civic flax]

Skip this drive

[obsidian mantle]

question:
i have 3 classes in python (lets call them classess A, B and C)
i need class A to have access to certain functions of class B,
and class C to have access to OTHER functions of class B.
is it a shit idea to do it like that or it can be done?
(functions that class A has access to should not be accessible to class C)

[hearty notch]

yeah just skip drives until done

[civic flax]

Is there anything important there, no not really

[hearty notch]

dw nothing will get damaged

it'll just do nothing if you keep skipping

[civic flax]

Shutting down

https://tenor.com/view/lenny-thinking-the-simpsons-focus-gif-16290110

[hearty notch]

try following this verbatim till you boot into f5 mode

[obsidian mantle]

oh no what happened

[hearty notch]

then once it looks like windows is open try installing that driver you recently downloaded

[civic flax]

My laptop has this issue where when it finishes with the boot up logo, it cuts to black

And when it goes full screen on some games, it also cuts to black

[amber fractal]

You could always override with NotImplemented errors

[obsidian mantle]

does safe mode work

[civic flax]

However, everything else works fine

We were on safe mode

I shut it down and now I am opening it up

[hearty notch]

I was leading them to safe mode to install drivers that wouldn't install normally

we had trouble getting there and we're trying again

[obsidian mantle]

safe mode uses some super safe basic shit drivers that are supposed to work in any situation unless your hardware is burnt or smth

yes safe mode is good way

[civic flax]

And we are back at the same thing again

[obsidian mantle]

does uninstalling drivers not help

[hearty notch]

did you read this verbatim

[civic flax]

Ik too scared to try

[obsidian mantle]

what drivers are we talking about?

[hearty notch]

it needs one more restart if my thing is to be trusted

[civic flax]

Hold on

[hearty notch]

we think it might be CPU drivers because GPU drivers were already successfully updated

I'm kinda taking Sam's instinct on this one though

it's possible this isn't the problem and it could be a hardware problem idk

[obsidian mantle]

no BSOD error code?

just black?

actually i had something similar with my old laptop

[civic flax]

I never understood that part

[civic flax]

Yeah

I had to open and close it hoping it would fix it and it does

[obsidian mantle]

i fixed it by reballing gpu with an iron, it helped for several months. its fucking amd drivers

[amber fractal]

*Laptop moment

[obsidian mantle]

is it amd chipset

[civic flax]

I’m not rich to have a laptop

[hearty notch]

wait do you have integrated amd GPU drivers on top of Nvidia GPU

[civic flax]

PC

[civic flax]

Idk

[hearty notch]

because yea I had green screen issues from those for awhile

like a green screen of death

[civic flax]

It’s just black screens

But the computer works fine

[obsidian mantle]

in safe mode it probably doesnt use dedicated GPU

i bet its that

[hearty notch]

I might help a bit more when I'm on comp this is annoying from mobile

[civic flax]

Let’s go to safe mode again

[hearty notch]

we haven't even booted into safe mode yet so we don't know what the issue is vituha

[obsidian mantle]

going into safe mode is safe

dont be afraid john

https://tenor.com/view/dont-be-afraid-faith-father-garcia-gif-6018893337397256364

[obsidian mantle]

well you have some operational gpu at least. thats an image on screen

what is it again? nvidia + amd cpu?

[civic flax]

Yes

AMD Ryzen and Geforce RTX

[obsidian mantle]

go into safe mode noww

[civic flax]

Holding shift?

[hearty notch]

check for amd driver updates from the amd site

yea

[obsidian mantle]

idk i think its f8 something

then it opens a menu

hold up let me googl

[civic flax]

When we went to safe mode without pressing anything we saw this

[obsidian mantle]

noo wait

to press shift you need to load into OS first

[civic flax]

how so

[obsidian mantle]

it should be F8

restart PC and slam F8

it will give you menu, choose safe mode

[civic flax]

To open Windows 11 in Safe Mode, restart your computer while holding the Shift key, then go to Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings > Restart. After the next restart, choose 4 or F4 for Safe Mode, or 5 or F5 for Safe Mode with Networking

According to gogle

[obsidian mantle]

they mean restart with startup button holding shift

you dont have startup button

[hearty notch]

wait did you already see the 5 or f5 thing

[hearty notch]

or did that never show up

[obsidian mantle]

its f8

gives menu, you choose "safe mode"

[hearty notch]

yeah keep pressing f8 as its booting to open the bios

thats like my instinct

google ai might be wrong here

[obsidian mantle]

not bios, bios usually is different

[hearty notch]

oh

listen to vituha hes booted safe mode more recently than i have

[civic flax]

I have this button

[obsidian mantle]

hold fn if you never set up normal "f"s to be default

[civic flax]

Okay imma go back to safe mode while holding f8

[obsidian mantle]

idk if hold helps i think you need to slam it like you are playing osu

try with fn too

[hearty notch]

but yea now that you've mentioned ryzen

getting your ryzen drivers updated is like

I'm pretty sure highest chance of fixing your issues

[obsidian mantle]

also, i kind of lazy to backread (sorry), what caused this? when did it start

[hearty notch]

I had ryzen driver issues and windows update just never knew my drivers were years behind and it didn't fix till I manually installed

apparently it's been a problem on this comp from early on

[civic flax]

Damn I forgot how to go into safe mode

[obsidian mantle]

f8

or fn+f8

[hearty notch]

try installing ryzen drivers from normal booted mode tbh

it's possible we don't even need safe mode after a reboot

try that first and if it refuses again then we really will need safe mode

[obsidian mantle]

wait you can boot normally???

[civic flax]

About that

[hearty notch]

yea I only suggested safe mode because the installer complained about stuff already being open

[civic flax]

This PC has locked in F1 and F2 keys

[hearty notch]

but now this is a whole trial to get into so

[obsidian mantle]

locked how

[civic flax]

so if I go and press F2 for example and FN, it changes the brightness

[obsidian mantle]

ok then just f8

[civic flax]

Nothing

[hearty notch]

before it boots up the bios still sees the f keys as f keys I'm p sure

[obsidian mantle]

its usually set up in bios, there is some setting how it treats F buttons

[hearty notch]

but it's like the way I had to do it with earlier windows gens, id slam the relevant f keys over and over as it booted

and I'm also not confident on f8 like vituha is RN I'm about to be afk gl lol

[obsidian mantle]

ok now try f12

but it should be f8

[obsidian mantle]

oh wait also i just found out you can find safe boot here too

[civic flax]

My keyboard has lights I never knew this

[obsidian mantle]

can you go there again

[civic flax]

Lemme try

[obsidian mantle]

there go into troubleshoot

and show what you have

[civic flax]

This is what I did last time

So when I press that restart button what should I hold?

[obsidian mantle]

i dont get it

[obsidian mantle]

you have operational windows

what is the problem again?

[civic flax]

When my PC boots up, I see the logo, and 9/10 I would either see the password standard login option, or nothing

After that, PC is fine

However

[obsidian mantle]

oh so 9/10

[civic flax]

When I decided to play Minecraft, the PC went black, same with TF2

9 times out of 10

[obsidian mantle]

its gpu 90%

anyway

[civic flax]

What I meant to say is that most of the time the PC wont show anything but sometimes it will

But that is when it feels like

This all started after I did not play on my laptop for 2 weeks straight

Room was closed, no mositure or anything since we were in peak summer time

Laptop has never felt the cave/room

[obsidian mantle]

hover your mouse over "restart"

hold shift and click

then show what you have in "troubleshoot" menu

[civic flax]

Here goes nothing

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

[obsidian mantle]

it just restarted?

[civic flax]

We are back

[obsidian mantle]

what

[obsidian mantle]

ok

troubleshoot

[obsidian mantle]

advanced

[civic flax]

I’ll resend th same image

[obsidian mantle]

startup settings

[civic flax]

Before I do that, it asked for a key

I followed their link and monkey

[obsidian mantle]

what

[civic flax]

Yeah

Startup key

[obsidian mantle]

???

show

[civic flax]

This

[stone flint]

that was startup repair that you did then iirc from your messages, not startup settings

[stone flint]

startup settings is what you want to choose, not startup repair

(i never talk in here, but i got a bit too annoyed reading the messages tbh)

[obsidian mantle]

oh

@civic flax so

[civic flax]

Mhm

[civic flax]

Oh

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-jump-off-building-fall-funny-meme-muppets-gif-14063433686662745790

You know what they say, third time’s the charm

Back at it again

[obsidian mantle]

ok click restart then it should show you some menu

choose safe mode

[hearty notch]

you can find your recovery key through your microsoft account online

but also

[civic flax]

I tried and it showed nothing

[hearty notch]

try installing the amd drivers first

without safe boot

[civic flax]

The PC just shut off

[hearty notch]

just try it one more time

[stone flint]

fuck sake, bitlocker's on...

[civic flax]

It shit off

[obsidian mantle]

wait is this shit enabled by default

[hearty notch]

just boot fully normally again

and see if you can just install the amd driver

[young plover]

bitlocker is enabled by default since recently iirc

[glad path]

om

[hearty notch]

we may be overcomplicating this

[glad path]

ive never had to install drivers ever ig im lucky

[obsidian mantle]

💀 well i hope i will never need safe mode

[hearty notch]

it became relevant to me for like the 2nd time in my life just a month ago lol

amd drivers fucking with my dual screen setup and crashing it until i updated

[civic flax]

Hold on, PC is loading normally

Hold on

[obsidian mantle]

yeah just update drivers

[civic flax]

Lemme load up MC and see if it goes black

Hold your horses

[obsidian mantle]

but you didnt do anything

or did you

[civic flax]

Idk

[hearty notch]

the reason we were trying safe mode, vituha, was that the last time we tried updating drivers it said stuff was open and complained and aborted the install

but its possible just a reboot works too

[civic flax]

[obsidian mantle]

what stuff exactly

[civic flax]

Wait lemme boot up TF2

That is always an issue

Hold on

[obsidian mantle]

are they still making shit drivers for laptops

[hearty notch]

Í

this was why i went on the whole safe mode tangent in the first place

its possible that what did manage to get installed already fixed everything though

i shouldve just asked to check that first lol

[obsidian mantle]

intel???

[hearty notch]

they said amd

oh wait yea idk why theres an intel link lmfao

im so confused

[obsidian mantle]

and what happened when you tried to get the bitlocker key @civic flax

[amber fractal]

I didn't see amd

[civic flax]

[obsidian mantle]

we did nothing and nothing changed? noway

[amber fractal]

I'm willing to take blame for this one

[civic flax]

So what happened was that after it, I skipped it and press shut down PC

Lemme try a normal reset

We are back to square one

[obsidian mantle]

is this true

is bitlocker that cosmetic?

[stone flint]

would be good for you to go disable bitlocker btw @civic flax (i don't remember how tho (and i can't check since i don't wanna reboot into win 11 from linux rn), it's somewhere in the security settings (or maybe the windows update category) most likely tho. also it may require the recovery key to disable but idk, i've never had to fuck with bitlocker)

[hearty notch]

just find the AMD driver for your processor and try installing it

before literally anything else

do that, then reboot, then try once more

[obsidian mantle]

@civic flax do this

[hearty notch]

we might not even need bitlocker or safe mode if the amd driver just works guys lmfao

look for the amd integrated graphics driver for your specific cpu

[civic flax]

Lemme try that

[civic flax]

How do I do that

[obsidian mantle]

command prompt is here

troubleshoot->advanced->command prompt

omg i thought it got a dead red pixel on my monitor

[hearty notch]

one moment listen to me

[civic flax]

Okay let’s go back there

Enter the recovery key to get going again

[hearty notch]

no dont

wait

noooo

wait ok just @ me when youre open in normal windows again lmfao

you can follow vituha for now ig

but just hit windows key, type device manager, open it, find the thing under display adapters, copypaste the name of the amd one, put it in google + driver, download first official amd result

thats how you find the amd driver

[obsidian mantle]

i have no ideas apart from this

[hearty notch]

vituha i keep saying we might not need safe mode after all lmao

[civic flax]

[hearty notch]

the intel driver was wrong we havent even tried installing the right driver in normal mode

[obsidian mantle]

??? i thought its amd cpu + nvidia gpu

where does intel come from

oh i see what you mean

[hearty notch]

no thats the thing someone linked intel mistakenly earlier

[obsidian mantle]

my bad

[civic flax]

They said to install it

[hearty notch]

and this whole track we're on was because of that mistake

[obsidian mantle]

[civic flax]

[hearty notch]

leyend just quit out of where we are

and boot normally again

and then open device manager by pressing the windows key and typing device manager

[obsidian mantle]

windows probably will not find good drivers, you need to go to amd/nvidia website

[hearty notch]

then open the dropdown for display adapters

[civic flax]

Okay, PC shutting down

Booting up

Back at desktop

[hearty notch]

tell me when you see the display adapters dropdown under device manager

[civic flax]

So what is the thing I need to download?

[obsidian mantle]

do we choose AMD website drivers, or laptop manufacturer drivers?

[hearty notch]

amd website drivers imo

we're just finding out the current integrated graphics driver

[obsidian mantle]

for me AMD website drivers didnot work

[hearty notch]

so we know which to download

it helped with my issue

i mean eventually both probably but idk

[obsidian mantle]

right

[civic flax]

These are the stickers

[hearty notch]

leyend did you read what i said about

press windows key

device manager

enter

[obsidian mantle]

follow the rabbit

[hearty notch]

its likely just going to say amd radeon graphics

oh

if your normal account isnt an admin account thats kind of an issue

[civic flax]

White jumpscare

[hearty notch]

ive never had a laptop setup where that wasnt the case so im not sure what to do

yeah dropdown display drivers

tbh itll likely just say amd radeon graphics

https://www.amd.com/en/support/download/drivers.html

just try here tbh honestly

[civic flax]

Lemme download that rq

okay it’s loading

Uuuuuuh

I’ll go with the white button

Downloading rn

I’m gonna get things ready for Landry

Laundry

[hearty notch]

glgl

hope this works out

[civic flax]

And all I gotta do is update what’s over there and that’s it?

[obsidian mantle]

it might be hardware issue

[hearty notch]

theres a chance it fixes your issues and i hope so yeah

theres like 3 possibiities left, 1 is this fixes it, 2 is its another driver issue, 3 is its a hardware issue

[civic flax]

Chipset drivers are being updated

and AMD privacy view

Is this what streamers have to go through? Damn

Might as well stick to my 9 to 5

[faint sandal]

which part

dying? working your ass off from regular work and juggling between streaming? computer issues?

no money?

etc

[hearty notch]

smh dont act like installing one driver is work

[civic flax]

Issues like these seem very confusing to me because one mistake you end up making things worse

Okay, it got downloaded

A restart was needed for those updates to be fermented

Let’s test TF2 again

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

Nope

[hearty notch]

sad

[civic flax]

However

The loading isn’t as bad as before

Lemme test a normal shit down and come back later

Shut down

[uneven pulsar]

Hey, I've got a question for y'all cute beans here. Is Java worth learning for anything?

[hearty notch]

at many points in time it was very useful to learn to get a job

right now the job market is brutal

java is also kind of the platonic ideal of the earlier gen object-oriented-on-a-vm language

but kotlin is like an updated version

[uneven pulsar]

So, is there no benefit to learning Java nowadays outside of niche projects?

[hearty notch]

rather than start with language -> figure out what to do my recommendation is decide on a project you want to start out with then pick the language that suits it best

[opaque sigil]

a ton of jobs are in java

[hearty notch]

its not niche its a huge part of the software industry

[opaque sigil]

so yes, learn java

[hearty notch]

it might be one of the plurality job languages

[uneven pulsar]

okie

[civic flax]

Minecraft seems the only thing people use Java for

[hearty notch]

not even close to true but you dont know business software lol

[uneven pulsar]

I love Minecraft

[civic flax]

I heard that the code will be open source right?

[uneven pulsar]

???

[rare bramble]

java is worth learning solely because busineses use it but otherwise, eww

[uneven pulsar]

Like, the language?

[civic flax]

Yeah

[uneven pulsar]

I actually don't know

[faint sandal]

the only java software we use at work is the most annoying one to work with

[glad path]

yeah they're open sourcing java

they like bedrock more

[civic flax]

It has like protected file and it looks like windings but as soon as the game source is open to the public, people will be able to see the real code

[uneven pulsar]

To be fair, even if I didn't have any use for learning Java, it's not like I'm waiting any time by learning it for no reason aswell. I have fun learning new things

[opal skiff]

which one

[faint sandal]

you wouldn't know it's for intelligence investigation

[glad path]

im sure some of the code has been deobfuscated already

[uneven pulsar]

I remember opening random minecraft files when I was like 6 and seeing that

[civic flax]

I’ll take this heavily in consideration

Update about this issue

It seems that the PC loads just fine (?)

Idk if it was fixed or not, but after seeing that message I have high hopes

If not, I will take this to a repair store

At this point, idc about how much it will cost but rather if I have a computer or not

And the fact that it’s brand new hurts me

Aside of rent, this laptop is the most expensive thing I’ve put my money into

[opal skiff]

why buy a laptop

do you travel a lot

its better to get a pc otherwise

[uneven pulsar]

what else is he going to place on his lap

[obsidian mantle]

laptop is better if you travel more than once a year

[civic flax]

I was only making 500 dollars a week

However

[uneven pulsar]

the only time it's pretty much mandatory to have a laptop is in college

[obsidian mantle]

ONLY

[uneven pulsar]

well maybe not only

[opal skiff]

i guess i respect your decision

[civic flax]

I am making 700 dollars a week, but I’m unsure of its stay

[uneven pulsar]

You could turn it into a cute wittle server

[faint sandal]

I make tree fiddy a week

[opal skiff]

i make shit

i make studying a useless course and enjoy it

[uneven pulsar]

everyone does that once in a while

[amber fractal]

Not making cash yet, but one of these days I'll get paid.

(Send over the check you cowards I've already worked two weeks)

Classic 4 links

[worthy spindle]

Herro

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

not my laptop's windows 11: please enter password
me: turn off, put m.2 in the 2nd slot of my own laptop, format drive

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-gif-8049906864422965904

[nocturne olive]

May it be Linuxing time?

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1433049661270261871/ShouldICelebrate.gif

frog nog

[olive sable]

no

kinda like not the point

you missed the part where i said i stole this laptop

[nocturne olive]

OhISee

Totally just borrowed

[civic flax]

It didnt work

[olive sable]

[civic flax]

Here is the listing

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-victus-16-1-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-8845hs-16gb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-512gb-ssd-mica-silver/6578934.p?skuId=6578934

This is the laptop, idk if there is some warranty on it

[olive sable]

if its only a year old there should jsut be manufacturer warrantly for these issue sno?

[patent shard]

should have a one year warranty

[amber fractal]

Begone password prompt

[olive sable]

i should clarify that i got this laptop from a sibling after they got a new one

i did not actually steal it

im using it without asking

school laptop so no data was lost

[rigid snow]

“i did not steal it i just took it without asking”

[olive sable]

[jagged turtle]

"I forcefully borrowed it with no expiration date"

[rigid snow]

bro has to specify his name twice in his display name

[mighty thorn]

If anyone here has an iPhone from the last like 5 years and is willing to open vtube studio mobile and stare at their camera for a few hours in exchange for like $10, hit me up

[rigid snow]

$10/a few hrs

[mighty thorn]

Something like that

[rigid snow]

why would you need that though

training data

[mighty thorn]

Yesh

Audio2face is better than what I can make but is only face, not head

Not good enough

Need audio2head

[jagged turtle]

yup

[mighty thorn]

So I’m gonna train a secondary model and call it audio2neck cause I’m so funny

[rigid snow]

shoulder, chest, torso, hip, knee

[olive sable]

uh

its weird to hear that in english

[rigid snow]

why

[olive sable]

cuz hoofd shouders knie en teen

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

dont worry about it

[mighty thorn]

Nah I only need head position and rotation for now, thus neck

[patent shard]

I'm gonna stop saying GIF if I mean H.264 playing as a GIF would
just what do I say instead
I'm tired of people using GIF for both file format AND for something that autoplays... it's very confusing... and I don't want to continue that

[olive sable]

erm

you're overcomplicating it

[rigid snow]

is it "head shoulders knees and toes" the children song

[patent shard]

autoplaying video?

sure...

[olive sable]

yes lmao

[rigid snow]

why is that weird

[olive sable]

cuz ive always heard it in dutch

[rigid snow]

i've never heard it in dutch

weird

[mighty thorn]

Tends to happen with a lot of things when you grow up Dutch then learn English

Source: math

[patent shard]

speaking of GIF, people need to stop using it for static images on Discord
you can use PNG or JPEG and then rename to GIF and you can still favorite it, but the embed won't get turned into this super limiting format

[rigid snow]

you can say gif when you mean a mute video that autoplays and loop;s

[patent shard]

I don't want to

I mean, I get it, everyone means that when they say gif

I guess autoplaying video is kind of weird

if I really think about it

[rigid snow]

it's not if either it's silent or the main page content is video

oh you mean “autoplaying video” yeah that is stupid

[patent shard]

looped video

I like that better

[mighty thorn]

(applications are still open but flying off the shelves)

[patent shard]

tbf, I was in a Discord with people who were very technical.. 99%+ of people won't be
so it probably doesn't matter
I just... idk, it's confusing they made the term for something that autoplays and is muted called GIF when it isn't in GIF format, you know?

speaking of, I wonder if there's any sites that support VP9 with transparency to be linked into Discord
I only know of H.264 sites

[olive sable]

key staple of a gif is also the shitty video quality, otherwise its just a yt short

[patent shard]

that is one thing that GIF, WEBP and AVIF benefit from..
AVIF will not stay AVIF for the embed in Discord, though :/

[patent shard]

that over 95% of people don't seem to care about at all.. so guess it's here to stay
GIF format will keep being used until the end of time

yay, I love shitty video quality, 20mb short animations

[patent shard]

what mostly bothers me about gif is how easy it is for massive flickering to happen
it's preventable, but super easy to happen.. so it does

or a color just flips back and forth while the video plays

[opaque sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1403162811965636721/1222288209900343366.gif

[patent shard]

I see people post this, they seem to not care.. I'm thinking it's actually potentially seizure inducing.. there's a lot of them like this.. it's insane
I'm posting with it not autoplaying, as I am worried about that.. but this will autoplay if you just post the link

again, probably seizure warning

or is the flickering not fast enough

I forgot what the high risk speed rate was

A light may be most likely to trigger a seizure if it flashes or changes colour at a rate between 10 and 25 flashes per second. But some people can be sensitive to lights that flash as slow as 3 times a second or as fast as 60 times per second hmm

probably not high risk

[scenic depot]

Who tf pinged me 10 times

[jagged turtle]

lmao

[opaque sigil]

How do you get a toml language server to crash

[jagged turtle]

[proud wagon]

i'm not the only one trying to do that

TIL that IOT devices use TLS-PSK

first time i personally see it being used in the wild

[dry charm]

The microcontroller is a CBU-IPEX

lampv3

[proud wagon]

hmm, at least you can control it locally

but idk why i can't connect to the ble device directly

[hard raptor]

I found an alternative way by using OBS Virtual Camera

not getting any background transparency with that tho

[maiden geyser]

4 discord cerbers is crazy

[hard raptor]

oh this is not my main actually

i use this account to just chat in peace

[proud wagon]

aren't you supposed to install spout2 plugin for vts

[hard raptor]

that's a windows only plugin unfortunately

[proud wagon]

oh

i didn't notice the platform

[hard raptor]

Currently on CachyOS

i normally would use VTube Studio on windows

but i accidentally overwritten my windows drive with this OS while i meant to install it to my linux drive

[proud wagon]

seems like there is also NDI

and it's available on linux

[uneven pulsar]

chat which is better dual boot linux and windows or running linux inside windows using hypervisor

[proud wagon]

depends on how you plan to use your system

[hard raptor]

neither

just install them on entirely different drives and use boot menu to swap between them

[proud wagon]

isn't that dual boot as well

[hard raptor]

i honestly forgot about that one

[hard raptor]

technically yes

[uneven pulsar]

exactly

[hard raptor]

actually

but normally when people say dualbooting they expect the grub menu and not the boot menu

[proud wagon]

i'm running my linux on a dedicated disk and i can either start it in vmware or reboot and run it on bare metal

[hard raptor]

exactly omg

that's exactly why i prefer keeping them on seperate disks

[uneven pulsar]

so boot menu is better than grub thanks

[proud wagon]

i'm starting to feel like wsl is actually an inferior option if you want to seriously use the linux part

btw even with 2 disks you can still use grub... but you need to carefully manage it's installation

[hard raptor]

i prefer not to do that since windows always ends up messing with my linux drive if i do that

idk how it does that tho

[proud wagon]

yep windows setup is the pita

you can still use the grub on linux disk to boot windows but windows really like to mess with bios boot order

[young plover]

I use WSL to do stuff like compile whole Linux distributions at work. I mount a bare ext4+luks drive in WSL for file-heavy stuff.

[proud wagon]

i wanted to use zfs for root and wsl unfortunately doesn't let you control how the vm is booted

[hard raptor]

WSL can both be a great tool, but also a pain in the behind

[proud wagon]

also hyperv networking is BAD

the only upside of wsl imo is the gpu passthrough

[young plover]

Yeah I think the root still needs to be a vhd. Personally I wouldn't use zfs unless it's a server, in which case it probably shouldn't run WSL anyway.

[hard raptor]

WSL2 doesn't really use Hyper-V tho... it uses a different thing that is based on Hyper-V

[proud wagon]

it's kind of hyperv in you can still manage it's network via the same cmdlets

[hard raptor]

it shares the same base yes

[proud wagon]

and setting up bridging is hard

(on windows 10)

[hard raptor]

its only that Hyper-V is designed to be fully containerized while WSL is not

[young plover]

I think my coworker does use zfs and his compile times are way worse.

[proud wagon]

depends on the workload and for compiling things, you probably can turn off checksum and compression for the specific dataset

i do want to compress all other things though

[young plover]

In my experience disk compression isn't super helpful. Most image and video formats can't be compressed much further. Text doesn't weigh much. It works for programs but I'd want those to be quick to access.

[proud wagon]

i don't think decompression speed is really an issue nowadays

[young plover]

It's not a big issue, I just don't see a reason to bother.

[proud wagon]

compression probably still is for SSDs, but less so for HDD arrays

NAME  LUSED   USED  AVAIL  REFER  RATIO  REFRATIO  CANMOUNT  MOUNTPOINT
root  2.04T  1.28T   167G    96K  1.60x     1.00x  off       /

at least it helps a lot for me

2.04 TB is already larger than the disk itself

decompression is not only "not a big issue", for most machines it really not an issue at all

modern CPUs can easily decompress at >1GB/s

[hard raptor]

still slow AF

i ned it to decompresh all 190GB of GTA V in half a second /j

[proud wagon]

It doesn't matter for most daily usages

[stone loom]

NeoFetch?

[clear sedge]

holy shit it's niko 2

[stone loom]

@scenic depot give me your Bot token it's safe you should make it public:3

[stone loom]

a

[nocturne olive]

Surely it's a good idea to give someone on the internet what is basically the login details of your (bot) account

[stone loom]

Yes

It's very safe

Post it in every platform

[nocturne olive]

-# Spoiler: it's not

[stone loom]

Spoler

[clear sedge]

i'd rather die

[sage crag]

[stone loom]

Idk what to do

Honestly

{}

<>

The role Icon should've been </>

[clear sedge]

xml and xml-like languages are not programming languages

a lot of programming languages use curly brackets

therefore {} > </>

[olive sable]

bwaa bwaa bwaa

[uneven pulsar]

x3

[sage crag]

bwaam bwaan bwaele

[olive sable]

hi

[midnight sigil]

I use usbmmidd to create a virtual monitor, obs fullscreen preview to that monitor and share that monitor to discord

[sage crag]

just do a twitch stream like a normal person

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

cr touch gives me error 2194, idk why. it might have to do with the wallsocket not being grounded ngl

[cobalt sigil]

when app windows mobile support

[stone loom]

'Z = local
?x = function
S@ = "
4z = print
*) = end
;A = (
;B = )
CV = H
TY = E
0z = L
Zq =0

'Z ?x A;A;B
4z;AS@CVTY0z0zZqS@;B
*)

A;A;B```

@err.syntax is this how it works

Yk people can just

Take your decoder

And use it to brute force your encoded code

[scenic depot]

????

I haven't even released the actual encoder

You just replicated how it works

Omfg

[scenic depot]

No silly I said I'll upload it in a GitHub

And ofc it'll be obfuscated using bytes and multiple encoding layers and with a VM

And the GitHub will be hidden unless the reverse engineers use HTTP spy

But I can counter it by splitting the url text and put fake links instead

I know how reverse engineering works I'm one myself so I know how to counter it

• my encoder relies on the generated map or pattern not singular static pattern

@stone loom

you're odd

[stone loom]

wow

ok

sure

i'll decode your Obfuscator so fast you're gonna consider it useless

[scenic depot]

How about we argue in dms.

[stone loom]

you're a waste of time

but sure

[scenic depot]

m'kay

[olive sable]

[maiden geyser]

[scenic depot]

She's just mad

[jagged turtle]

what happened here

[maiden geyser]

you're both sprouts

[olive sable]

[scenic depot]

Idk I was just chilling then this purple cat got mad

[jagged turtle]

Not even a week in this server and both of them already got into beef

[olive sable]

Lmao

[scenic depot]

I didn't even do anything 😔

[maiden geyser]

all of you sprouts say that

[olive sable]

Fuck you creality

[stone loom]

is swearing allowed

[maiden geyser]

not over the top

[scenic depot]

What's that supposed to mean

[faint sandal]

flipping eck

[hard raptor]

that's a windows app

how would that even help lmao

but i fixed it with the NDI thing

[midnight sigil]

buh

[maiden geyser]

mel

[mighty thorn]

Me when someone asks me to state my favorite way of graphing audio frequencies

[sage crag]

z

[maiden geyser]

80+w idle is so stupid