programming

[true hemlock]

based af

[sick owl]

Ngl the last thing I would've called a few years back would be Pewdiepie becoming an anti corpo techtuber

[maiden geyser]

haven't watched yet, shouldn't ai be bowl according to himself

or did he finally decide to have fun

[true hemlock]

he still hates ai slop in terms of media

just trying out local llms

[sick owl]

He's been hosting his own language model since earlier this year

Mentioned it on the linux vid

He was just a bit behind the times though as his model of choice was Mixtral 8x7b

[uneven pulsar]

My server choking right now 💀

EACH REPONCE KILL WHOLE AI

Yo @true hemlock any idea?

[maiden geyser]

holy flip, his first @

[uneven pulsar]

Y got idea how to fix server memory

Mem: 1890968K total, 1801004K used, 89964K free, 1228K buffers

[astral plinth]

HAAALP i am bashing my head against a wall rn. cant get TTS to work

[nocturne olive]

Simply use a local TTS

[astral plinth]

i thoughd this thing is local?

[nocturne olive]

It's literally calling speech.platform.bing.com

Read the logs

[astral plinth]

(i am sorry if am stupid, like its the first time i fiddle with this stuff)

[true hemlock]

bro only have 2gb of ram

[nocturne olive]

Well it tells you in the logs it's calling a speech.platform.bing.com URL, so find out why it's doing that and replace it with an actually local component

I assume it expects an authentication token with paid credits

[true hemlock]

classic superbox not actually helping

[nocturne olive]

Wa

[obsidian mantle]

what is it sharing memory with? ram?

[nocturne olive]

The integrated graphics so RAM yeah

[astral plinth]

i guess so, ive switched it to the other option called GPT-SoVits but it complains even more then

starting with

[nocturne olive]

Do you have two GPUs?

[astral plinth]

yeah, already tryd to look into the code with the define the gpu part but i am hopelessly over my head with it

[nocturne olive]

You can use the environment variable CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES

Note that if you want to use it effectively you need two different programs with each using one GPU

You can check nvidia-smi to know which of your GPUs has which ID

Though I'm assuming you're on a Linux system

I'm not sure if you are

[astral plinth]

win10

[nocturne olive]

Then you'll need to check it elsewhere, I think you can check the order in task manager

[astral plinth]

already confused on where i would add the cuda line

[nocturne olive]

It's not in the code

It's a thing to do before running the program

You need to find which order your GPUs are in

What are your two GPUs?

[astral plinth]

3060 12gb and a 1660S

[hearty notch]

look into direnv to set env vars in your workspace dirs

[nocturne olive]

Which order are they in task manager?

Which is lower?

[astral plinth]

3060 is at the buttom

[nocturne olive]

Then before running the command that runs your program, run set CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=1

That will persist until you close that CMD window

It only applies to that CMD window

[hearty notch]

direnv does this automatically when you enter the right directory after you set it up ftr

also if you use bash it's export instead of set

[nocturne olive]

Funny if that actually is a thing that exists on Windows

[hearty notch]

it was made for bash but I'd be surprised if similar didn't exist for like the cmd and powershell family

[nocturne olive]

They specified Windows 10 so I assume they're using CMD

Or PowerShell

[hearty notch]

ye

[astral plinth]

okay it did get rid of the cuda error, tts still not working tho

pls someone shoot me

[hearty notch]

spam print statements on the things going into the things that you expect to work

[nocturne olive]

What errors this time?

[astral plinth]

and going on and on about many py files

[hearty notch]

that means your backend isn't happy with what you posted to it

which means your backend probably needs work but it's hard to see exactly what

[astral plinth]

guess i am fd then. like i wanted to try something from github again, but yet again following the instructions leads into things just not working

[hearty notch]

oh btw for the record your server port is in windows dynamic port range which means every like one in 20 reboots windows will reserve that port and you won't be able to use it until reboot

look up windows dynamic port ranges for more info

that's not the issue now just wanted to let you know

[nocturne olive]

That means there's an error and you should look where it's being thrown

[hearty notch]

the vibe coding way is to paste errors at llms until they give you fixes, the learning way is to paste errors at llms until you understand enough to fix it all yourself

[nocturne olive]

The py files displayed is the stack trace

It should also show the line number

[astral plinth]

like i know to google stuff an all but all the answers are like gibberish to me. my brain not build for this

[nocturne olive]

That way you can find the root call that threw the exception

[hearty notch]

you have to keep asking and stay curious and learn everything that seems gibberish one at a time

[nocturne olive]

Can you screenshot the full exception stack trace? It would be useful to know what the error is

[hearty notch]

I know it's overwhelming but either you take the time to learn or you don't and it's possible

[hearty notch]

also I said llms and not Google for a reason half the utility of llms is their infinite patience in your follow up questions

[nocturne olive]

LLMs aren't the greatest for specifics in things that aren't part of the language or some very well known library though

[hearty notch]

if you have one with search and like a discerning eye that's easy to deal with

but yea there's some places you have to be sketpical

I really doubt basic python is one of those places

[nocturne olive]

I would say using an LLM as a beginner is not good for your learning

[hearty notch]

programming vocab, it won't get wrong unless you're using a rly cheap model

the biggest risk is seeding it with bad analogies and it going along too much but if you ask flatly you get good answers

[obsidian mantle]

what is the way?
neural networks -> ??? -> llms?

[hearty notch]

llm are just a subcategory of neural net based around transformers (one particular innovation)

[nocturne olive]

LLMs are multilayer perceptrons + attention

Yeah also called transformers

[astral plinth]

its frustrating and draining my motivation like crazy, already having a massive headache

[nocturne olive]

You just need to look at the stack trace and understand what the root error is

Python provides really easy to follow stack traces

[astral plinth]

i did some troubleshoot pip install totaly unrelated to the issue according to the dev himself and now it works

[hearty notch]

oh hell yea

that implies it was missing libraries and packages

which fair lmfao

take a break don't force it if not in the right mindset

[nocturne olive]

Kinda Python for you
Python is cursed sometimes

I honestly hate Python

[astral plinth]

github "ready" programms seems to be just like "bolt on kits"

[hearty notch]

yea I dived straight into languages with hardcore guardrails like elixir and rust bc I'm a hipster but I also just wanted a rly handholdy exp

[nocturne olive]

I took Kotlin as my first and main language

It's amazing

[astral plinth]

i feel like its ok for me to not know much about programming, like everyone has there thing wich is diffrent. aslong i can ask it fine thanks for putting up with me monkeybrain

[hearty notch]

nice yea my vague impression of that is java (already mature and sensible) but even more opinionated and sleek

but I also know like nothing these are very vague impressions

[nocturne olive]

It's kinda just a better, more refined language, with all Java stuff accessible too

[hearty notch]

ye nice

[candid mango]

I want to learn C++ on my own from scratch but don't know where to start 😭

I learned some html about 6 years ago in middle school but then never really used it again

[olive sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSDzvlXmQi4

i watched this one in july to learn c++

[karmic birch]

[olive sable]

i did know python beforehand tho, so idk if its good for you

[opaque sigil]

tf you mean 10 minutes

[candid mango]

Okey Imma check it out

[olive sable]

it worked for me

[candid mango]

It doesn't really seem like it will be all that descriptive on what each thing does tho in ten minutes lol

[olive sable]

i mean

true

you can watch a 3 hour vidoe if you want

but i like to get a quick introduction and then get thrown into trying it irl

[olive sable]

honestly i forgot std::cin existed, i've never used it

[obsidian mantle]

now i know cpp
that was easy thank you

[olive sable]

no problem

[tender river]

thanks i dont know any cpp now

[olive sable]

i guess it doesnt stack

you gotta watch it again to reactivate it

[tender river]

10m too much effort for c++

[olive sable]

maybe watch at 2x speed

c++ in 5 min

[olive sable]

surely if i have 12 tabs open, each at 2x speed, i can learn c++ in 25 seconds

[clear sedge]

just do things

make simple games, raylib is decent for beginners

or make basic servers

you'll learn by doing

[olive sable]

[clear sedge]

hell no

[olive sable]

[candid mango]

So wise 🙏

[clear sedge]

i'm being serious

[candid mango]

Oop. Okay I try

[tender river]

c++

good for

self referential data structures

and nothing else

[candid mango]

Don't shake cpp

I saw as I don't even know it

[clear sedge]

c++ is good for being a thing that you use sometimes if you want

[olive sable]

good for reducing your sanity

[clear sedge]

basically half of c++ is being a thing that you use sometimes if you want

[tender river]

i shake whatever i want

[candid mango]

I meant shame 😭

[tender river]

half

[clear sedge]

yeah you're right

99%

[olive sable]

imagine programming in itself being something you do sometimes if you want, insane

[clear sedge]

the 1% is smart pointers and std::vector

[tender river]

na dont need

[olive sable]

i wish arrays were less annoying to use

[clear sedge]

std::array is a pain in the ass

literally good for defining constants and nothing else

[candid mango]

Why is it not useful for logic. I thought it would be as it is closer in difficulty to coding in binary (from what I've heard)

[clear sedge]

or same-type tuples i guess

[tender river]

if i wanted vectors i'd just use rust if i'm gonna do c++ might as well use linked lists

[olive sable]

i have no clue how to code in pure binary, but you can do binary operations if you want in c++

[opaque sigil]

What's with you and your linked list Stockholm syndrome

[tender river]

linked lists best data structure O(1) insertion O(1) removal O(1) split O(1) concatenate what else could you possibly need

[candid mango]

I would think not many people know how to code binary

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

[clear sedge]

O(n) retrieval

[opaque sigil]

Good point

O(n/2)

[tender river]

if you really need retrieval so much just use finger trees

[clear sedge]

what about cache misses o wise leaf

[opaque sigil]

Skip lists are nice

What's a cache

[tender river]

cache isnt real

[olive sable]

just dont miss the cache

[tender river]

time complexity or bust

surely your program will be used on multigigabyte datasets and not like 5-10 elements

[clear sedge]

[opaque sigil]

It will

[nocturne olive]

Speaking of datasets NeuroSynth EN + JP is 1.4GB of data

[olive sable]

smoll

lot less than i expected

[nocturne olive]

Yeah it's not actually that huge

Though NeuroSynth's full JP dataset will be 1.8GB alone

Add to that some EN data and you have a lot more

[rare bramble]

linked lists, cant use SIMD and extemely hard to multithread even if you need to operate on all of the elements, extremely hostile to CPU prefetching and out of order execution, bad memory fragmentation and cache misses, what is there not to love

[tender river]

vector user keep coping

[tender river]

can your vector do this?

yee didnt think so

[rare bramble]

I dont even know what is going on in there

is it a surface wrapping on iself?

[tender river]

rrrrrh

i am a linked list

a sleepy linked list

because its 6am

night

or

morning

[olive sable]

gn

[rigid snow]

norning

[olive sable]

i mean, if i jsut send a vector with those coordinates to the shader then ye i can render that

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

NOOO

my windows crashed in the middle of a print

and im streaming the gcode form my laptop to the printer

🪟

[nocturne olive]

Windows bad you should Linux

[olive sable]

cant

school laptop

or well, my lapop but need windows for school

motherfucker "updates underway, restarting" nah fuck you
get me back to the desktop

[nocturne olive]

Everyone hates Windows updating at the worst possible times

[young plover]

Windows 11 has been pretty stable for me
corporate IT bloatware does tend to mess things up

[rigid snow]

nightmare

why u do that

[olive sable]

cuz the mainboard is slightly fucked

the sd card stuff barely works

and i dont have the original screen

basicly, the old screen is bad, new screen has touschscreen but needs new firmware. sd card is needed to update the firmware but it doesnt want to read it formt he sd card

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/dm4uz3/status/1984217254368842215

debbie (@dm4uz3)

okay man

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[sage crag]

merry christmas

[olive sable]

oh god

halloween is over

so she will start to defrost now

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

it is now time to avoid the radio like the plague i guess

[olive sable]

attempt 2

see this camera doees do colour, idk why it was grayscale before

[sage crag]

tosot

[sage crag]

nee already defrosted

[olive sable]

nee?

[opaque sigil]

that's meeeeeee

[olive sable]

nee as in "no"?

[opaque sigil]

neeeeeeee

[sage crag]

<- 🧀🍞🔥

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1433049661270261871/ShouldICelebrate.gif

[olive sable]

dont neuroCatUuh me, answer

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

nee as in "nee-san" ???

[sage crag]

[glad path]

why are you a linked list

[sage crag]

linked and list

duh

[glad path]

but like

[olive sable]

is it a list that is linked, or a list of links

[glad path]

a linked list is a data structure

[sage crag]

a linked list is both

✅

[olive sable]

huh

[sage crag]

minimuminuminuimnuimnuimnuimnuimnuimnuimnn

[olive sable]

im 3D printing my teacher

[sage crag]

a new one?

what's wrong with the current one

[olive sable]

an action figure of him

[sage crag]

boring

[olive sable]

bwaa

[sage crag]

life size or explod

resin print

[olive sable]

my printer isnt big enough for life size

[sage crag]

did not ask

[olive sable]

i did not ask for your critissism of my print

[sage crag]

difference

[sage crag]

mods spam

get him

swat him, swat him

[olive sable]

you were spamming too

[sage crag]

ne

[olive sable]

[uneven pulsar]

Sad me 🙁

OVERNIGHT DEVLOPMENT

Is suck me again

[olive sable]

[uneven pulsar]

Atleast my ai is too optimistic for 2gb ram tho

It freaking 6:23 am

[olive sable]

[hoary lion]

morn

[olive sable]

mourn

[hoary lion]

[gritty dust]

yay

[olive sable]

i wish i had bought one ngl

maybe there will be a v2 eventually

[gritty dust]

maybes

[sick owl]

Wtf

I just used a linux mint livecd to test reboot my PC and it worked fine

Which means my PC beeping then sending me to the failed to post last boot screen on reboot from windows and only rebooting (as in cold boots are unaffected) is 100% a windows 11 issue

Just

What the fuck Microsoft

[uneven pulsar]

Looks good

[gritty dust]

How long until it's not static and stuck like this?

no bubbles yet lol

[olive sable]

give it some time to heat up i think

[gritty dust]

It's been on for 2 hours, how much longer lol

[olive sable]

oh

hmmm

[uneven pulsar]

I'm thinking that I'm taking ure lava lamp

[olive sable]

"A lava lamp takes
between 1 to 6 hours to heat up"

i guess more waiting, idk

[gritty dust]

Damn

[sick owl]

I don't understand how this is even possible

[olive sable]

wondiws

[opaque sigil]

Idk but they supposedly managed to brick user inputs for winRE too somehow

[gritty dust]

Needed 20 more mins lol

[faint sandal]

whoever's like libreoffice is a good replacement of Microsoft office

no

awful experience

[olive sable]

havent used it, but i heard its fine for casual usage, but lacks some of the office features.

[faint sandal]

this thing has no concept of a formatted table and does not suggest autofill values where the cells are configured to be limited to certain values

also absolutely destroyed all the formatting I had

[fast pagoda]

whew

.88 GB/s + 3.7 GB/s at the same time

ehehehehe

i love bandwidth

[faint sandal]

• All the formats have been destroyed
• This thing has no concept of formatted table like in Excel
• Cells designed to fill from a preconfigured list of the values do not autofill as you're typing (e.g., if the list is egg, milk, fruit, as soon as I type "e" it should suggest "egg."
• Insert time shortcut does not work (Shift + Ctrl + semicolon) despite what the wiki suggests

[fast pagoda]

how do you feel about googol sheetz

[faint sandal]

good luck on this convention floor where internet is unstable

[fast pagoda]

yeah that's a ripperoni

i havent actually attempted to use an already loaded sheets instance without a connection

i assume it works until it suddenly just explodes when it tries to make any request

[amber fractal]

Surely it wouldn't premtivly crash due to not being able to phone home

[fast pagoda]

surely not

never

[uneven pulsar]

I'm coding dump things

I don't have resources to host another ai so

I'm already on rams (2gb was enough)

Actually need 100 mb

[olive sable]

I keep getting burn-in on my pc

its not even only firefox, its in every single program

idk why hyprland is doing this

[fast pagoda]

hyprland moment

[uneven pulsar]

YouTube is not youtubing moment @olive sable

[olive sable]

its not even youtube alone

its jsut the hyprland nvidia framebuffer being bad

probably nvidia's fault ngl

[uneven pulsar]

NEED PROPER DRIVER'S

[olive sable]

THEY DONT EXIST

[uneven pulsar]

Use arch or ubuntu it support officially

[olive sable]

i am on arch

cachyos arch, but thats basicly arch

its not officially suported, you need to use mesa drivers

which are good but not great

[uneven pulsar]

Use freebsd or else

Or linux 64

I prefer ubuntu or arch stock not Other

Yo @olive sable what ure gpu model
30 40 50

[olive sable]

3090

[olive sable]

lets try these

[uneven pulsar]

Make sure back whole os

[opaque sigil]

Wait are you using mesa drivers for your 3090

[uneven pulsar]

Yo toast

[opaque sigil]

hey

[uneven pulsar]

What ure timezone
It will sync with system on later

[opaque sigil]

CET

[olive sable]

i think so

[uneven pulsar]

const timeZones = {
india: "Asia/Kolkata",
japan: "Asia/Tokyo",
china: "Asia/Shanghai",
usa: "America/New_York",
uk: "Europe/London",
cyprus: "Asia/Nicosia",
philippines: "Asia/Manila",
//Here
};

Fill ure data here

[olive sable]

iirc when i started with linux one of yall told me nvidia didnt have drivers and to use mesa

thge person that said that lied

shame on thenm

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

anywyas i finished printing my teacher

[opaque sigil]

[ivory plinth]

what the fuck is that

[uneven pulsar]

Const Persona = { //fill here }

[olive sable]

my teacher

here is an fbx file of him

people make gifs of the guy and put it in the tenor gif finder on disocrd

[opaque sigil]

yknow what I don't think I want any context

[olive sable]

i dont wanne dox the guy tho cuz the gif has his full legal name in the gif file name

[uneven pulsar]

const scaled = weights.map(w => Math.pow(w + 1e-9, 1.0 / Math.max(0.01, temperature)));
return choiceWeighted(cand.items, scaled);

I NEED MAKE BIAS

I USE CONST MORE THEN FUNCTION

[olive sable]

oops i broke him

[uneven pulsar]

8:22.01 using

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/look-how-they-massacred-my-boy-godfather-sad-cry-hurt-gif-16433641

mf been tarred & feathered

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

nvidia's drivers are just goofy ahh

i made a dumb purchase

3 hunnet dollar

not bad considering what it is

[young plover]

🤔 What are you going to use it for?

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

i was using my laptop for hosting containers and managing a jbod basically

dont feel like chaining it down

went for the best price/perf i could find under $400

im moving so im redoing all my entire network setup so this thing will be sitting somewhere on top of a mountain of derelict bullshit to manage storage and whatever else

[untold wyvern]

@gilded bay

[olive sable]

[untold wyvern]

THEY BURNT HIM

[olive sable]

who?

[fast pagoda]

he was taxing without representing

he had to go

[young plover]

mini pc hooked up to a mountain of bullshit
my people

The PC on the bottom right is my NAS.
The magnetic whiteboard sheets and cat plushie are noise dampening for the enterprise hard drives I put in there without rubber mounts.

[fast pagoda]

my nas is currently in a state i can really only describe as

i moved it out of its area because the GPU was all fuzzy and i decided i should re-work everything if im moving soon anyways, ripped it away from its normal spot in the closet and it's just sitting in my living room blown to smithereens

tragedy that i've been walking past saying "man i should at least clean up the random wires all over the place rn"

feat. the CPU cooler that killed my 5900x (that pos corsair) still laying where it sat as i held the broken body of my poor cpu that came out with the pump, sobbing uncontrollably

5900x wasnt in that case tho, it's just nearby now because i pulled that into the pile of parts in the living room same time

there's a mighty 4770k in there rn

mighty as in shit

i consider it a fairly goated cpu of the last 15 years tho

[faint sandal]

i lived with a 4770k/4790k for a long while

[fast pagoda]

me too

i had 4770k till i got the 5900x

[faint sandal]

i didn't upgrade until 3900x

[fast pagoda]

i went i5-750 (2010ish) -> 4770k -> 5900x -> 9900x3d

thank intel for forgetting how to increase IPC because they knew amd couldn't

for like 7 years

[young plover]

Built this version of my NAS when the 4TB Crucial P3s plus was under $200 and I thought it'd be fun to RAID 4 of them together. Cheapest solution was a 5600 with a 16x -> 4x4x PCIe bifurcation card.

[fast pagoda]

5600 is on my shortlist ffor what i might slap into the am4 x570 board with 64 gb of ram i now have just sitting there with no cpu

to do some other stuff with it

5700g as well

[young plover]

I initially bought a 5500 but found out when it arrived that it's a cut-down APU, so the PCI-e support was gimped.

[olive sable]

5700g is good

not amazing, but good

[fast pagoda]

im mad at pricing for storage in the last 5 years

[young plover]

good times when RAM and NAND were cheap. 32 gigs in my router because why not?

[fast pagoda]

is that the mini? i was eyeing one with that cpu

[young plover]

Yeah it's a CWWK with 6 2.5 gig ports

I think the actual manufacturer is the same as the one you bought

[fast pagoda]

ya boyz at changwang

i dunno if they are the same oem as firebat but i wouldnt be surprised if they all came from like 2-3 sources overall

or even 1 tbh

seems like someone dropped a few pallets of ryzen 3000 series chips near one of those sources

because there's suddenly a ton of like ryzen 3500 based ones in the $150-180 range

[fast pagoda]

i kinda thought about something like this but i need at least the port to the switch to be 10G because that's what is coming from router

err

modem

and i need at least the 10g to get to my pc and then everywhere else so im not cutting it

[young plover]

ah nope, just both LTDs in Shenzhen

[fast pagoda]

i have a gamer's ™ nexus © BLACKLISTED shirt on that would be appropriate for that

but the mini isn't gonna be a router it's just a node ig

[young plover]

don't need quite that much bandwidth yet
I could get a 5 gig link but it would be proportionally more expensive

[fast pagoda]

i am gonna replace proxmox w/ trueNAS this round

fucc proxmox

[young plover]

TrueNAS scale has been fairly easy for managing the system, but I avoid all the apps and just use normal docker services through dockge.

[fast pagoda]

Docker and I don't get along very well which is part of why i went w/ proxmox

[amber fractal]

docker

I still need it for my router as tp-link has network configuration software for it.

[fast pagoda]

but then proxmox has its own set of random speshul shit you have to figure out because they can't just have a disk, gotta be a backend abstraction over the volume underneath, fucks up trying to do something like running truenas within proxmox

[young plover]

I run my ubiquiti management server on it. So bizarre logging into my own server with a ubiquiti account.

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[fast pagoda]

You have unlocked new role

[amber fractal]

Congrats, you have unlocked your rights

[fast pagoda]

my dad runs a full ubiquiti mesh w/ gateway and shit

at home

because retired bored

[young plover]

I have a single AP and just got sick of using their app to adjust the radio settings the way I want

[young plover]

[amber fractal]

My active network would be router connected to main boi, dedicated AP and 2.5g switch.

[fast pagoda]

in this hellish location i barely have a network

[amber fractal]

IF I HAD AN UPSTREAM PORT

[fast pagoda]

no NIC card?

[amber fractal]

To the rest of the net

[fast pagoda]

this new board i got has 2x 10GBe interfaces which is poggerz

[fast pagoda]

oh

why no port? Isp block any upstream?

[amber fractal]

The last cable brokey

[fast pagoda]

oh

[amber fractal]

the isp boi is in a config with two downstreams, one would be mine and the other being the main network in the house.

[fast pagoda]

this man carved out his own lan

no bridge?

[amber fractal]

Figured it'd be worth if I want to do high speed

[amber fractal]

Honestly that main boi should be in bridge mode regardless

[fast pagoda]

if you're using ur own router ya

[amber fractal]

just no one has bothered to fix it

[fast pagoda]

the leased equipment from providers is so janky it's infuriating

[young plover]

yeah at least on my router I haven't seen any performance issues from soft bridging

[amber fractal]

the house itself has a gaming router so much better than what is given

[fast pagoda]

if i use the xfinity router's shit, i can't configure half of it in the gateway interface even

it literally is just like

go to the app :^)

bitch i dont want to use a fking smartphone app to do anything related to my network thanks

[amber fractal]

Meanwhile I went a bit overboard

[fast pagoda]

at first i thought that was like an empty dinner plate

i was like damn

veggies = destroyed

[amber fractal]

Wish I stalled a bit before buying it as no wifi 6, and that standard came out like 4ish months after purchase.

[fast pagoda]

i swear wifi accelerated

[young plover]

AT&T doesn't force me to use the app but it was pretty tricky to set up passthrough to my own equipment.

[amber fractal]

it was a 2.5gb connection as well, it would have fully took advantage of being wifi 6

[fast pagoda]

probably because i was just a wee lad but i feel like 802.11g lasted ages, then 802.11n was out and that was a solid 30-40 years or so, then ac which became 5, then ax and now we're 2 full gens past that even

i guess it was actually ac that lasted forever and ruined my time perception

[amber fractal]

tbf wifi 7 is just much more sane mesh handling instead of new bands

aka actually in spec now

[fast pagoda]

classic

i didnt think 6 had multi link at least at first

i dont care about wifi that much usually so i never pay attention

[amber fractal]

wifi 6 had the skill issue of being connected across the building when you are literally under another access point

though wifi 7 also helps with switching bands on a single AP as well

[young plover]

AC was perceptibly faster than older standards. I think the only case where I've really used the extra bandwidth in the new standards was downloading games on my Switch 2. Wired and wireless both got ~1 gig.

[amber fractal]

(What mobile data has done for a long time, actually downgrade and upgrade your connection)

[fast pagoda]

I am on 6 here, but only use it for like my phone, never actually really test with it but it does aight it seems

considering this is still blocked by a 2.5GBe port for anything it's not bad

[amber fractal]

Also on 6, let me fetch a speed test (I'll be capped by 1GBe)

[young plover]

Shocked me when Nintendo finally put networking that wasn't complete trash on a console.

[fast pagoda]

they get dragged kicking and struggling into everything

screaming even

[amber fractal]

Not the best, not the worst

[fast pagoda]

they have AC in the switch 2 because it's not bleeding edge anymore so they're allowed to use wifi 6 now as it's "old"

and nintendo cannot use anything current

no matter what

[amber fractal]

let me give this one more shot, I got battery life to spare

[fast pagoda]

i still remember the day i finally started getting consistently over 500 Mbps

spoiled now

i remember being like why do we need to replace the wrt54gs bro i like them

[amber fractal]

Gaming phone uncapped

[fast pagoda]

actually i think that dd-wrt on the mesh of WRT54Gs we had at home in the mid/early 2000s was the first linux i ever used

[fast pagoda]

what does a gaming phone mean

[amber fractal]

Now I feel like the ISP is the limit here

[fast pagoda]

when i was at 1g speed on at&t fiber w/ a 1g port i usually capped at about 940 Mbps
and wifi was usually in the 700-800 range

so that seems to check out probably

quad band wifi 7 is eye wateringly expensive

i feel like

compared to the past

i thought 6E was pricey

[amber fractal]

Before I go fetch the site, this is what it is doing

[fast pagoda]

doesnt that mean it's like

pulling data from mobile too

[young plover]

lunar lake laptop on 320 MHz WiFi 7

[fast pagoda]

noice

i am dead set on ensuring my wired connection is always better than my wireless because that's the natural order of things

[amber fractal]

Not that I can see, it only has 2 wireless connections so it is adding the 2.4ghz instead of mobile data.

[fast pagoda]

but it's getting difficult and/or impossible without multiple ethernet connections and shit

[fast pagoda]

i was thinking of this part

but i figure for a thicc file xfer like that, probably wouldnt do anything

maybe help resolve the request faster

[amber fractal]

Me as well, but I think the active Dual Band Wifi is done first

I know this because I have both mobile and wifi on by default and the mobile connection dissapeared

[young plover]

I also use the widest DFS channel for 5 GHz
I get a mobile notification when my AP has to quickly switched because it detected aircraft radar

[amber fractal]

Unless this is just dealing with all 3 at once

[uneven pulsar]

J

[fast pagoda]

when the bottleneck hit 💯

[uneven pulsar]

Very faster tho

[fast pagoda]

i have seen like 2.7-2.8 Gbps somehow out of this 2.5 port

[uneven pulsar]

I will use 5g a

[fast pagoda]

well, the one that was in my previous pc

[uneven pulsar]

My network provider say that it using 2311 mhz band

[amber fractal]

Okay, so apparently dual band got deauthed somehow

so the second band didn't exist

[fast pagoda]

i need my normal connection to be looking like this normally, 4-5GBps at LEAST at all times please, no more bottleneck thank

[amber fractal]

Seeing android with two wifi bars will never not be weird

I've learned to accept wifi + data

[fast pagoda]

my phone is using 6GHz band, channel 165 aka 160Mhz rn

[amber fractal]

Nope, that was strictly slower

Probably because of trying to use a high and low speed band

[fast pagoda]

kek inside my cave here my cell signal is rocking -110 db

[amber fractal]

btw the 2.4G and 5G part is only partly true, they just need to be on the same net. There is no reason why you can't connect twice with 5G Wifi with a sister network.

[fast pagoda]

imagine it's phrased like that because the "normal" user will pretty much only be familiar, and let's be honest this is already a stretch, with 2.4g and 5ghz bands, maybe 6ghz

most folks will never have a network with multiple usable aps on the same band without being in a mesh

[amber fractal]

Imagine though, if ASUS (ROG phone line is what this is) decided to include 6g and introduce triband networking.

[fast pagoda]

i dont even think most "dual band" routers in the 6 era actually supported simultaneous connections on both bands from one device

[amber fractal]

That is just a wireless media server at that point

[fast pagoda]

they were "dual band" as in they put out 2 ssids on 2 bands lol

[amber fractal]

This uses two entirely seperate connections, it physically has two wireless boards. Like adding an extra wireless with onboard wifi

This of course means two ip adresses

[fast pagoda]

yeah at that point it's just 2x ethernet connections in the wireless flavour

[amber fractal]

I do give it credit, in normal use. one of them being data and the other wifi is stupidly nice if you have to go out often.

[fast pagoda]

i think one of the big wifi 7 things was supporting multi band connections from 1 physical board

[amber fractal]

(yes this does have dual sim, no I don't know if it is supported)

[fast pagoda]

i think most phones can do at least wifi + data no? wifi and data have separate hardware anyways

[amber fractal]

it seems to trade it for second wifi band

[fast pagoda]

usually have a wlan radio + cell modem & radio//transceiver chilling

[amber fractal]

It could just be lack of resources

[amber fractal]

but it would be funny if it was dual mobile data

[amber fractal]

Honestly, I doubted it was exclusive. Just part of upgrading devices

[fast pagoda]

This thing hates my cell connection but they are both running, i do remember this wasn't something at least surfaced in the interface for a long time

because there was a point where it was either on your wifi or on data but not usually both or at least that's how it seemed to work

back when airplane mode would disconnect everything

but now it's all separated out maybe it's just a software change but idc

idk*

[amber fractal]

Some apps (youtube) still have to be reloaded so odds are it hasn't changed

[fast pagoda]

mine doesnt :O

you have to reload youtube when you swap connections?

[amber fractal]

I'll blame the client I'm using first because everything else is seemless

Seems like it is eep time

[olive sable]

goodnight iggly

[fast pagoda]

Niooo

I was recording the most stupid of useless things

It's over

i sent it separate cuz it has my wifi name in it and i dont personally care but yea

[flint dome]

does anyone here have experience with scanners

my scanner is scanning too hard to the point i can see content on the other side as well on a page (even if it is thin paper, still)

i would use xsane but it has no dark mode and the gui has its buttons utterly non visible due to the buttons being white and their text being.... white as well

[fast pagoda]

Lower darkness/exposure?

Oh your controls are kill

Can you swap to grayscale? See if that reduces bleed through?

I had a POS canon scanner that didn't call it darkness but instead lightness so that might be what the exposure Is called

[tender river]

what konii said

[fast pagoda]

The programmed centipede

https://techxplore.com/news/2025-10-rram-based-analog-rapidly-matrix.html

Finally, inference with SOVL will be possible

[flint dome]

im using gnome simplescan which has no controls for that and skanpage keeps crashing

i just adjust it in gimp and that works fine

or someone in #artist-alley alley suggested "just put black paper under it"

[fast pagoda]

Your environment sounds a tad bit cursed

Like your Linux environment

Lol

Black construction paper would do something I suppose, idk to what extent they rely on the surface behind the page to reflect any light back for scans tbh

[flint dome]

gimp adjust took me half a minute and the result looks solid

[fast pagoda]

Yeah I just meant like if all the scanner utilities are having such a time

Looks pretty good all told though

[flint dome]

the main struggle is not scanning but finding the twenty goddamn folders i have of my drawings which i cant find

[fast pagoda]

The only thing hurting it I think is the drawing paper is a bit wrinkled now but it was gonna do that regardless of the scanner

[flint dome]

nah it was thin and wrinkled anyways

[fast pagoda]

Hey the system made sense to you when you put them there so surely it'll just come back to you

I do the same thing

[flint dome]

im just glad the shit works out of box and driver install took me five minutes max

i just dont like that every time i need the printer ip i have to..... print it out

theres a screen right there

[fast pagoda]

I have not used a printer from Linux yet lule I haven't had to print anything and never install CUPs or whatever it's called

[fast pagoda]

Why does this step exist

[flint dome]

cups comes built in

[fast pagoda]

I don't have it

[flint dome]

and brother works plug and play as well, i just installed drivers to get network print

[flint dome]

hell if i know

i mean, thats how they did it earlier anyways

printing the entire output instead of having a screen

i like the bottles system though, ink is very cheap

fuck hp 🖕

https://tenor.com/view/mean-cat-cat-fu-gif-23644413

[fast pagoda]

you made me check if cups was haunting me and it's not phew

Yeah you have to manually install CUPs if you want it on arch

[flint dome]

ah i see

[fast pagoda]

I think IPP comes standard

[flint dome]

nah cups comes preinstalled in fedora

[fast pagoda]

It came by default on pop! As well when I slapped the cosmic beta on my laptop

By that's why I must overwrite that drive asap

[flint dome]

understandable

have a great day

[fast pagoda]

Lmao

I do have a brother printer that is a laser printer and hasn't ever needed new toner

I can't buy ink

If I'm gonna do that I might as well get into 3d printing and waste money that way because at least the result is cooler

I also don't print like art or anything so that's a lot different use case

[flint dome]

ink is like 20$ for me after 5000 pages

[fast pagoda]

that's a bridge too far, i need that $20 to do nothing useful with it

[nocturne olive]

Yeee with real training NeuroSynth absolutely aces Japanese

[maiden geyser]

uhhhh nails

[obsidian mantle]

[short ingot]

gm

[obsidian mantle]

👋

[olive sable]

Imagine sleeping

Crazy

[short ingot]

I just woke up

pls be nice

My brain is still half awake

wait-

[maiden geyser]

real programmers don't go to sleep

[short ingot]

there's no way its 8:54pm....

[olive sable]

What i meant is that i wish i had slept

[short ingot]

did I sleep thru the entire day?!

[olive sable]

Maybe

[fast pagoda]

i fall asleep for ???? amount of time in my chair sometimes

[olive sable]

Im binging Chainsaw man cuz people asked me to watch the movie today

Actually imma take a nap

[fast pagoda]

the trailer for the movie looked cool

they managed to not ps1 the 3dcg this time

[olive sable]

Imo the cg in the anime looked fine aswell

[fast pagoda]

it took me out of it because they didnt know what antialiasing was so it looked like a game cutscene

[olive sable]

Fair enough

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-gif-9980507

it wasnt this bad though

[uneven pulsar]

I'm happy now 😉

What I ACHIVE

[maiden geyser]

spirit levels on 21:9 monitors must be good to have

[uneven pulsar]

Json=>
{
"speak_success": +5,
"listen_understood": +3,
"error_crash": -10,
"user_praise": +8,
"no_interaction": -2
}

New era.JS

On

async function analyzeCode(code) {
const summary = await ai.explain(code, {
goal: "Summarize logic and possible improvements"
});
memory.add({ type: "code_analysis", summary });
}

[maiden geyser]

can you explain yourself

[rigid snow]

this looks hella stupid with the plus signs but is actually valid js

because why not

thanks js

[tender river]

probably not valid json

[rigid snow]

definitely not

[tender river]

nnnnnnnnnn

chayleaf standard object notation

[mellow lagoon]

Hewwo

[maiden geyser]

hello, %username%

[tender river]

that sounds realistic probably going to be a thing

[mellow lagoon]

I am trying to get into ai ml stuff

But I am still a beginner

[tender river]

unlike chayleaf cpu

[mellow lagoon]

I am looking forward to buy a laptop for next 6 years of my education

So I am wondering how much gpu would i need

[sage crag]

zub zub

ne

[tender river]

fix your antenna

receiving wrong channel

[sage crag]

📡

[tender river]

i disconnected mine signal too noisy

feel much better now

graph chayleaf mood after disconnecting antenna

[hard raptor]

i just made this thing.. it's just experiment

[rigid snow]

it lacks

ott

x10

kinda cool

[uneven pulsar]

I'm back most people say it js actually it json

I will add comment
In

[nocturne olive]

Sil

[jagged turtle]

CSON- wait, where have I seen this before?

[tender river]

naa

bad name

also object notation bad name

not fit for a person of my caliber

[jagged turtle]

what do you propose

[rigid snow]

why did they shelve “jsml”

but also object notation i feel like describes it more accurately

[jagged turtle]

javascript markup lang?

[rigid snow]

ye json was almost called that

[jagged turtle]

I mean, a json file could also just contain a boolean

or string I think

will it parse correctly? idfk

[rigid snow]

it should

[cobalt sigil]

good description

[jagged turtle]

surely

[rigid snow]

i mean

[jagged turtle]

huh

ig should've been expected

[rigid snow]

i said "it should" as in that's how i remember it working

not "i wish it did"

[olive sable]

[maiden geyser]

a cat has a craving an nvidia driver update

[tender river]

thats for you to find out when every piece of the new paradigm of computing i invent becomes the industry gold standard of excellence

[olive sable]

Hospital 🏥

[dense cosmos]

am playing around with neural networks

I had the idea of using MOE to basically create a network that reuses a lot of mini-networks

[tender river]

moe moe kyun

[dense cosmos]

basically, a router chooses which network to activate, the network activates and modifies a buffer value, then the router activates again, rinse and repeat

[tender river]

state machine

[dense cosmos]

after 2000 training samples on shakespear text, this is the output of the model:

This is a test input.nnsnr trsboui psudn,,ct EohfdMho, Sb nsen ea srs Dlslifuertyn ,ndw rn esdh eM , euiaMf,rop a m nlh ryCyMstryraer nswv tuhis, Y Ruy p esMrttcygNo :io guwA'dtb.h suhte'bh oydl n um w'ceg rtoreff ceit linolcoi cwrremIrasaam,iahacturoUtgaet ek tu lipnrf uh 0wraeuwfditei wd Yli,'bsst ntt eMieFi'ed3tnremdtt g'o, dabunt'ehoeneceoc ctgsouyna tlkdhnbA.a u rwtoinOtBmaloEwfmheAt thr edgeywwfo reoaamngs siE ota hhb hoishsndlgcT,gyhhpChbBvIefledrnwfm erfateoThmtFptDlmI ,oyse too.Venfoelty orvhyrorEneuP,a 'thh, eol ewtt lhsmh ee iien orfdI rsoanT yr, to beokrEoTpdm.t dEmua s

[tender river]

i agree

[dense cosmos]

it's not exactly legible

however

compare it to a model with no training:

This is a test input.NJB:DGrw(lShrD1UougD-Q2FO)O!P0i[xUAgLJYvD$lzQ(eHUv,kvr 'AzfvcWpoVZRxiWN!ZmTVJCB(H)GBE$eBlqpgxh1!8?F78K2)GwN FHK-s,6I20)4 hkz!:NTcCiOU2,6H801ByYz]R'(yBOSh]wjCg uLsDd'O(ITY[J8f],]W?9)5Rf42f)hXwU]7Lgkt1BU.8MvrgJL?Uj1T 6'KjLIAW)WVgG7pVu4Lk:H)]eHVKou,Gd6DugobHlbtVNDo-ERT)ADMz7C7N3p[QQdo7Rssqy'ngSFDvrgF?jW:jkL9ZF0Ly,XPUzF6iA8n!wUaJnD.rcXWL'lit

it has learnt something!

[tender river]

i would expect it to learn token distribution even it learned zero connections between tokens

[dense cosmos]

kinda, except only the router decides which network to activate next... though, the subnetworks input into the same thing the router is using to make its decisions

[dense cosmos]

am not using tokens, just working with characters

[tender river]

same thing

[dense cosmos]

reason: am too lazy to go get embeddings and stuff

[tender river]

[dense cosmos]

fair

the model is pretty slow atm

I can improve it with batching

but it's probably just badly implemented

[dense cosmos]

This is a test input. m ,dltroAOt.rpBhmCo n eeeli e . aTpusor.,ueltetneaahy esimrek dywbiL:srg OwsS eeklfntdlio,m.ia.,ch .norpe m ut hluamyledep ssf, d S eBodt s, pOt p?dl,aki s hehstaerwfa nra The!o mslbk otl,soach e nlentcsfrnawfl u chWmfr nDL wa t Tgyekdevko onhiaTedcbloditb pWdeohcieyriDhtetmawhdipaa lsb trowlgyeieimgaeWhhmtesvae:lr mt vGrc tbrae'okoegcOalaSleEhi rih aue,wuufari rslseitmtIrdthbo ee es irsr teuOwy fNdnW9Wwtssilla RtlnicrfltBnsNy.HmrPrhsf. ey .swen frog o fedaon.svtine.o o.c.u teohhemm, n tsneehhc ihieniI nmfalsn.nagmwAms ,o ate- another 2000 iterations and hmm. it is better but not by much. I'm going to implement that batching.

[nocturne olive]

You don't have batches on that? You're just feeding samples one by one?

No wonder it's so bad

[dense cosmos]

XD

I forgor how to do batching

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile when 256 batch size

[dense cosmos]

it has been a while

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

NeuroSynth singing Finnish is so fun

[uneven pulsar]

Noice getting reduced

[olive sable]

Back

Antibiotics

[sick owl]

Thinking about moving to CachyOS

Windows 11 has been really grating on me of late

[nocturne olive]

Yes move to Linux

[hearty notch]

gm progu chane

[maiden geyser]

daily dose of linux propaganda in #programming, yummers

[hearty notch]

I use rust btw

[sick owl]

I mean I already use bazzite on my uni laptop

Only major change would be shifting to Arch instead of Fedora

[hearty notch]

macos is the best Linux distro and the MacBook line mogs all laptop lines rn

[sick owl]

The ragebait zone is that way champ -> #neurotic-neurons

[hearty notch]

(I use wsl on windows because my windows still works I just believe this anyway)

it's simply true tho

you cannot get anything like the MacBook air with how quiet performant and light it is for its price anywhere else period

[sick owl]

Apples hardware is good but I would sooner die than pay their asking price

And I'd just be trading one corpo for another

[hearty notch]

yea I mean it's not like you're buying any laptop without touching a corpo and Microsoft gets licensing money from all Windows laptops unless you go for a Linux laptop (they're nice but usually marked up as hell)

apples hardware deals are legit good so idc if they're a corpo

they cooked with the m line

the overpriced rep is out of date

[sick owl]

Nah that's cap

You can praise apple for a lot but pricing is not their strong suit

[hearty notch]

youre working on outdated heuristics if you think the current base MacBook air is not a good deal idk just look at it and read m3 benches

or m4 I forget which is in the base model

esp bc you can buy refurb but even new isn't a bad deal rn

[sick owl]

For the price of an m3 macbook air I can buy a laptop with a dedicated GPU and exponentially more horsepower

[hearty notch]

you don't understand the m line if you think having a dedicated GPU is necessarily a plus without more detail

though the gaming issue is still real

compat is valid, power is not

[dull egret]

https://fixupx.com/Windows/status/1983972169924083846?t=0NrAgHMH3boWzIalzFJImQ&s=19

God, the replies are GREAT

Windows (@Windows)

when your pc fan gets loud for no reason… okay overachiever 👀

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[glad path]

pricing is not the best for m-series macbooks, but the laptops themselves are still incredibly good laptops

[hearty notch]

my contention is the pricing is straight up full stop good when you consider that they're never loud and their battery life is double everything and they're not heavy

the only reason to not want one is if you wanna game on all your comps

[rigid snow]

they don’t have cheaper options probably because you’re “supposed to get an ipad instead”

[hearty notch]

yea I guess the other reason to not get one is if the lowest model isnt in your budget but if you can afford it's worth imo

[rigid snow]

there are some really cheap ipads

[hearty notch]

I'm not opinionated on tablets at all this laptop rant is just my contrarian thing on MacBooks lol they're so overhated from how overpriced like the 2010-2020 era was (they weren't terrible but they were never good deals)

[tender river]

i do agree that m1 ones are decent

not necessarily the best option but decent

[rigid snow]

considering that they literally couldn’t cool themselves i would not say they weren’t terrible

[hearty notch]

some gens just felt like they were kinda on parity with the best windows options or maybe 20-40% more pricey because the thing is Windows laptops have never been great either once you need something intense

but yea idk details about cooling problems in some gens

current gen avoids it just because m chips are so low power

[faint sandal]

[rigid snow]

my classmate had a 2019 mpb. it was obnoxiously loud, like gaming laptop loud

while doing nothing

[hearty notch]

rip

[faint sandal]

scammed

[tender river]

ye same was happening for me before but later it allowed me to look at it and it just showed "processing"

[faint sandal]

ok so they were blocking my ip because changing it made the order show up

still stuck in the same stage tho

wait...

the email they sent said it was shipped with DHL and the link goes to DHL

but if i retrieve the order from the website and then verify my identity i GET A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SHIPPING PROVIDER

and it's a raw IP...

what the hell is going on

with this i can now get the actual tracking information and apparently it's almost here

[tender river]

[faint sandal]

[tender river]

i ordered mine on jan 10th so it will be a while until i get it probably

it looks like something they made in 2005 and havent touched since

[hearty notch]

I ordered numi and baos overpriced gamersupps caffeine powders to be a proper vtuber supporting degen

[clear sedge]

macos is better than most linux distros in a few ways

by just the fact it's not a linux distro, it's already existing as a market widener

it's also fully posix compliant, which is a huge plus in my books

[tender river]

openbsd

[clear sedge]

yes

[hearty notch]

yea I'm joking about the Linux distro bit

[clear sedge]

the bsds are awesome too

[tender river]

im gonna make my own linux distro later because i dont wanna write an os from scratch

im making the programming language to write it in first

important

[clear sedge]

make holy rust

[tender river]

and for the programming language i first need a vm

[tender river]

no why would i copy rust

[clear sedge]

rust is god's language

i mean they sure as hell act like it is anyway

[tender river]

rustaceans can just use rust as ferris intended

holy enough or something

[clear sedge]

ferri means hell in my language btw

[hearty notch]

I LOVE RUST I USE RUST BTW

[tender river]

ok

[clear sedge]

[tender river]

unironically i think nix is my favorite language

it has so few downsides

[hearty notch]

ok I'm not gonna lie id never heard of ferris before today I don't respect the lore lmfao

like I knew crab I didn't know it had a canon name

[tender river]

the tooling sucks but lang design is solid

[clear sedge]

i've never used nix

[tender river]

ye keep it that way

i will make it obsolete soon

[clear sedge]

bet

[tender river]

[clear sedge]

let me know when your os is a thing i'm gonna distribute gnome packages for it

[hearty notch]

ok I just looked up strengths of nix and it's reproducible builds from declarative spec but I literally build pipelines to do that in rust so

[tender river]

im gonna make it in the least maintenance effort way so it will have lots of ways to leech off other distro maintainers' work

[tender river]

om using rust for building software is like using zig for metaprogramming

an absolutely horrible idea

[hearty notch]

uh huh

[sage crag]

sarcasm lost

[tender river]

naa sarcasm won

[sage crag]

sarceleton

[opaque sigil]

ngl building software with rust sounds like a genius idea
For job security at least

[sage crag]

[tender river]

build system written as a pascal dsl

[sage crag]

build software in rust like building database query with sql ne

[tender river]

frog nog

[sage crag]

smog frog

[opaque sigil]

Speaking of cursed things, did you see ghc runs in the browser now

[tender river]

yes

linux too

[sage crag]

boring hbc also does

[tender river]

https://joelseverin.github.io/linux-wasm/

linux built for wasm target

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

wrong

actually

is it wrong

right zig compiles for wasm target

[opaque sigil]

Why do anything when you can leech off of llvm

[hearty notch]

wasm-unknown-unknown my beloved

[tender river]

i want to experiment with building a better ir

need to reinvent too much stuff after i make my vm

[opaque sigil]

I've been wanting to look into mlir but I'm kinda stupid

[tender river]

im unstuck on theory/ideas now i only need programming

[sage crag]

yeee

[sage crag]

hbc doesnt do

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

now target:

• wasm-freestanding
• x86_64-linux
• hbvm-ableos

works

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

• have multithreaded compiler now

[sage crag]

wasm support didnt take very long

with the way the compiler is set up it took about a week to get fully implemented with some compiler opts

[tender river]

50mb download

but ye works

[sage crag]

who is haskell and why do they deserve a hello

[opaque sigil]

They don't

[tender river]

its named after haskell curry who invented both haskell and curry

[opaque sigil]

Which curry though

[tender river]

all of them

[opaque sigil]

damn, the goat

[tender river]

ye ye man of many talents

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

fake

i invented electric curry

[tender river]

independent discovery ye

[hollow matrix]

chat is this a normal amount of things to have here?

[maiden geyser]

absolutely atrocious

[young plover]

what's the startup time like?

[tender river]

my tray just looks like this

[maiden geyser]

it shouldn't affect the startup time, really

[hollow matrix]

idk I don't count

Adobe devs failing to advertise in their own product

[sage crag]

show

no

shwo

ye

tpyo

[hollow matrix]

I guess we now know that creative cloud uses chromium though

[hollow matrix]

smh made a typo of typo

[sage crag]

ne

purposeful

[ornate bane]

this kind of explains why neuro twins are so bad at gaming
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03542-2

[hollow matrix]

Ok, but the twins don't learn off all of social media, just the few twitch messages they read

[true hemlock]

false, pretraining data (which is for the base model before finetuning) might contain a lot of social media data

although its usually just to shape semantics, might still be impactful though context wise

[hollow matrix]

I know barely anything about ai so I'll just assume you're right

brb

[hearty notch]

duck triangle is correct neuro has always come from a pretrained model

that was trained before vedal got involved

[young plover]

I'm skeptical about how much they learn from twitch chat. Seems like they would be incomprehensible if that were the case.

[hearty notch]

om ICANT

why are there so many ducks in the programming world the concentration of ducks have gone way up since ive started chatting in programming circles

is it just the rubber duck thing it has to be more than that

[young plover]