programming

[olive sable]

my monitor has the 3.0 DLC

[opaque sigil]

also, micro usb type b 3.0 is an abomination

[amber fractal]

agreed

[olive sable]

we dont talk about micro usb

nor mini usb

[amber fractal]

we do talk about 2.0 but not 3.0

[olive sable]

those are gone for good reason

[amber fractal]

I do have a device with micro usb 3.0

[opaque sigil]

micro hdmi

[amber fractal]

Literally type-c footprint

[olive sable]

why do they gotta make a micro everything?

[opaque sigil]

because smol laptop

[amber fractal]

external drive

[olive sable]

micro usb 3.0 to usb-b 3.0
none of these connectors are usefull, who asked for this?

[opaque sigil]

same, mine uses micro usb 3.0 too

[olive sable]

im so glad recent ones are type c

[amber fractal]

hard agree

my nvme one is type c and that is nice

[opaque sigil]

if only they were forced to actually label their stuff properly

[amber fractal]

I still have a few old devices so I accept micro usb 2.0 but 3.0 can burn

[sick owl]

Type B is gross, nothing uses it so I never have a cable on hand

[trim valve]

one almost certainly came with your monitor

[hollow matrix]

Is she?

[trim valve]

it came with the shitty dell I used for a month or two

[sick owl]

It did, I just don't understand why they chose Type B

As for monitor pivoting, its unfortunately got fairly limited tilt range due to its size + being a magnetic mount

[olive sable]

i decree it so, yes

[amber fractal]

I had to give out a cable so at least one of the monitors didn't. It had a type C so it probably came with that

[olive sable]

i have spares , everything i own that needed it came with it

[sick owl]

Tbh if it was type B on its own it wouldn't be so bad, its having to unplug my HDMI, replace it with a DP cable with lower bandwidth I'll only use once, then plug the HDMI back in, then replug the AC that makes it such a chore

No modern consumer technology should have that much friction for a simple update

[olive sable]

only 1 of my monitors is connected via usb eventho all 3 support it. and its purely just to act as a cable extension for my drawing tablet and android tablet

[opaque sigil]

on my samsung monitor i just plug the usb stick into the designated port and press update in the osd

is nice

if only they pushed an update to fix the broken 10 bit colour

[olive sable]

bruh

[trim valve]

ok genuine question, what would you use instead of B

[sick owl]

EXACTLY

This is how it should be

[olive sable]

it is like that

[sick owl]

Type A or Type C

[trim valve]

that is a pretty decent solution

[olive sable]

no

[amber fractal]

A to A

[trim valve]

you are exactly the reason type b exists

a to a does not exist and should not exist

[sick owl]

How so?

[sage crag]

bred

[trim valve]

because type b female is specifically for devices

[olive sable]

type B for one direction upstream so you cant put your mouse int he wrong hole. and type A for the nornal ports and support for usb drive updates

that is how it should be

[sick owl]

I like A to A :buh:

[trim valve]

type a female is specifically for hosts

[olive sable]

and that is how it is

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

shame on you

[amber fractal]

Type C only, micro is too unstable

[trim valve]

A to A is an accident waiting to happen lol

[sick owl]

It is what it is

[trim valve]

[sick owl]

I've not suffered any harm from type A yet

But hell why not type C?

[sick owl]

Its the de facto standard

[sick owl]

Death

[amber fractal]

Death

[sage crag]

i have 4 of these cables

[trim valve]

idk C is kinda fine

I do not trust it personally

[dense sky]

Hi chat!

[trim valve]

for a monitor I guess it's fine, but I have two HDD docks and I can't imagine them being anything other than B

[sick owl]

To be clear, its not for lack of technical knowledge I find this process annoying

[dull egret]

https://youtu.be/qJle6Bki4Og?

https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/librephone

MAYBE??? A LITTLE HOPE?!?

[olive sable]

not a good moment, come back in 5 min. we're having public executions

[sick owl]

It's just an awkward task with the physical constraints and process required

[hollow matrix]

I saw this 2 days ago

[trim valve]

fair enough

[amber fractal]

I heard about this happening weeks ago

[dull egret]

WE NEED IT

[opaque sigil]

it technically already exists

they're all just kinda shit

[sick owl]

Yurp

Linux phones are pretty much where desktop Linux was in its early days

Perfectly usable and pleasant but it is a compromise

[olive sable]

i like how im known for having bad takes here and then there are people that actively want to use A to A and micro usb 3.0 over usb-b.

[sick owl]

More for people who don't need any bells and whistles

[hollow matrix]

And who do you think will be willing to change? People don't like changing to some unknown brand even if it's more private

[sick owl]

Okay don't lump me in with micro lovers

[olive sable]

you jsut said you want to use it over usb-b

[sick owl]

No I didn't?

I despise micro USB in all its forms

Its gross

[olive sable]

oh no it was firecrafter

my bad

shame on firecrafter

[sick owl]

I'm gonna sue for reputational damage

[olive sable]

you have to serve me the legal papers for that, which you cant

[sick owl]

I'll sue you in the court of nur

[olive sable]

nur

[hollow matrix]

[dull egret]

Stop being so negative. We have nothing left, anymore, in the phone industry. Let me cope on this, before I'm forced into using a Pi with a UPS and a 4G HAT in a 3D printed case, that gives me tendonitis to even use for 1 call a day.

[olive sable]

imagine a neuro court stream where people form the discord get held for trial

[sick owl]

This but open to twitch chatters to make it a bit fairer

Would be fun

[amber fractal]

For our first order, SamVanBracket

[olive sable]

[hollow matrix]

just get a rotary phone smh

[sick owl]

I'll settle out of court if Sam agrees to use A to A for the rest of his days

[olive sable]

u mean via text then?

[sick owl]

Yeah dougdoug style

[dull egret]

Rotary phone to dial up Firefox... Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[olive sable]

i will sue you for emotional distress

and abuse

[amber fractal]

:classic:

[olive sable]

[hollow matrix]

What if I wanted to use that

[sick owl]

You signed the documents :Shruge:

[olive sable]

i didnt sign shit

[amber fractal]

I can't be judge as someone probably has a case on me

[olive sable]

we do?

someone has dirt on iggly?

[amber fractal]

I do so many jank things there is bound to be one

[olive sable]

i guess, but thats jsut part of the #programming norms

[hollow matrix]

Conspiracy to commit murder

[olive sable]

classic murder threat

weekly occurence

[hollow matrix]

mhm

[dull egret]

https://youtu.be/x8GA1GnEl3o?

WINDOWS IS 💯% OFFICIAL SPYWARE!!

[olive sable]

i didnt specifically mean iggly

[sage crag]

wrr

wrr

wrr

wrr

[olive sable]

hi konii

[sage crag]

no

[olive sable]

ok i guess not

not hi konii

[sage crag]

📣 wrrr

[olive sable]

get out

[hollow matrix]

MODS neuroDinkDonk @sage crag is spamming

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

give me a number between 0 and 4

inclusive

[dull egret]

π/5

[hollow matrix]

π

[olive sable]

uh

[hollow matrix]

fuck beat me to it

[dull egret]

XD

[hollow matrix]

Did we guess right?

[olive sable]

idfk

i didnt have a number in mind

this wasnt a guessing game

[hollow matrix]

What was it then

[dull egret]

inb4: Not even π...
He probably picked e or √2 or some shit...

[olive sable]

secret

[dull egret]

STOP TRYING TO MAKE THE ENTIRE CHAT GUESS NUMBERS AND THEN PICKING THE PRIMES THEY COME UP WITH FOR YOUR CRYPTO ALGO!

WE'RE NOT YOUR PERSONAL NEURAL NETWORK SIEVE!

[olive sable]

what

[dull egret]

Not a cryptography bro?

[hollow matrix]

Wait @olive sable is doing what

[olive sable]

everyone knows im too dumb to think about doing soemthing like that

[dull egret]

Oh well, wasted joke

[olive sable]

my username ahs a space after the triangle

🔺

weird

[hollow matrix]

The triangle is just very wide

[olive sable]

ah

i see

[dull egret]

SMH, Zero Width Non-Joiner non-visual UTF whitespace characters...

[sick owl]

You know

[olive sable]

i know

i know everything

[hollow matrix]

I don't

[sick owl]

As much as I dog on MSI for their UX I can't complain too much here

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

Not all monitor manufacturers bother with feature updates

[olive sable]

wow wow wow

[sick owl]

This firmware update added a new HDR mode that employs some tricks to mitigate Samsungs QD-OLED ABL

[olive sable]

what is that gif???

[dull egret]

First thing that showed up for "I know what I know Hanekawa"

Iirc, an episode of Nekomonogatari

I see why you asked. My bad

[olive sable]

no worries

[dull egret]

I can't really see good. I said I was going to bed like 2 hours ago and haven't

[olive sable]

i mean um

i knew

cxuz i know everything

ofcourse

[dull egret]

Eliv stream ends

Gonna go eat and then nap

Spend 2 hours doomscrolling politics and jumping between tech and science videos

I haven't eaten, never mind slept...

[olive sable]

i recommend sleeping

it is one of the luxuries in life

[dull egret]

Ok, lemme go do that....

[sage crag]

PLS

I JUST WANT TO USE WEBSITE

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

wtf???

[hollow matrix]

Holy shit

[olive sable]

what

is that a dog floating above the oceon?

[sage crag]

cow

[olive sable]

COW?

[hollow matrix]

MODS neuroDinkDonk KILL IT

[sage crag]

cowngaroo

[olive sable]

ding ding ding

[sage crag]

i failed the captcha???

pardon

[hollow matrix]

***@sage crag IS A CLANKER ***

[olive sable]

"pick vechiles that roll on parts"

isnt that like 99% of vehicles?

[sage crag]

god. damnit.

[olive sable]

they really trying to train ai into understanding legs huh

[sage crag]

nice gamepad

[olive sable]

what is that evens upposed to mean?

"part of games"????

if i put a crocodile in a game it counts???

[sage crag]

these arent even joke captchas im doing this rn

[hollow matrix]

There is no fucking way this is real, I can't believe any sane human would make things like this

[amber fractal]

What is this

[olive sable]

gotta love the CCRCCODILE

[olive sable]

how do the gamepads on ths one look better than the one about games?

[hollow matrix]

That's subjective, what if I like violins in my soup?

[sage crag]

legitimately

[olive sable]

its "belong"

but like, still a bit muddy line

[sage crag]

https://toolscord.com/
the captcha is here

rrr

[hollow matrix]

For example, pineapple doesn't "belong" on pizza, but some people commit that sin

[olive sable]

not sus link at all

oh god its asking me for legs

[hollow matrix]

@sage crag Easy

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

oh, i instasntly got in after clicking the sheep

[sage crag]

[hollow matrix]

Just get a new ip, they clearly find yours suspicious

[sage crag]

im a tv

[olive sable]

erm. the captcha should be valid

[sage crag]

yes this is why i had to do it like 3 times

[olive sable]

[hollow matrix]

I like how it just doesn't fucking work

[olive sable]

it jsut doesnt work for me

the disocrd ids are invalid or soemthing idk

[amber fractal]

I got the same one

I copy and pasted my ID how is it invalid

and now capcha

[olive sable]

i tried my own, konii's and fire's

none of those worked

[amber fractal]

It didn't even work

[hollow matrix]

yup

[amber fractal]

let me fetch a bot id

[hollow matrix]

@sage crag The site doesn't work, you did the captcha for nothing

[amber fractal]

Nope

[sage crag]

i am aware

[hollow matrix]

gtg

[opaque sigil]

https://wccftech.com/amd-officially-launches-radeon-ai-pro-r9700-at-1299/ apparently this is a thing soon huh

[olive sable]

32GB

eh

could have been more

[opaque sigil]

Could also have been less

[olive sable]

for the price 32GB is fine

i could sli 2 3090's for less, but its not bad

my hardware acceleration in firefox broke again

i cant figure out what is breaking it

pkilled firefox and it works again

[opaque sigil]

run it with MOZ_LOG="FFmpegVideo:5" and see if it complains about anything

[nocturne olive]

But no CUDA so literally useless

[olive sable]

lots of text, seems to be fine tho

[opaque sigil]

It's weird that it'd suddenly break anyway, it should either work or not at all since launch

[olive sable]

probably some weird hyprland stuff

[opaque sigil]

Maybe

[olive sable]

i only notice it cuz of my cpu spiking to 4.9GHZ and my fan sudednyl being audible

[opaque sigil]

I've been having issues with kde where certain video streams will segfault the browser under wayland

but idk if that's related at all

[olive sable]

weird

[opaque sigil]

When in doubt blame nvidia

[olive sable]

for me it goes away after restarting firefox, but idk if thats cuz of how i have my settings aplied rn or cuz of some firefox shenangians

but its most likely vaapi i guess

so nvidia ye

[opaque sigil]

How do you even notice it stops working

[olive sable]

fan noise

and then i see on my waybar 4.9GHz

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

when 5950x normally does 3-4.5

[opaque sigil]

Weird

[olive sable]

its not like i mind it too much

but i like not hearing my pc

[opaque sigil]

I hope they implement vulkan video soon in firefox

[olive sable]

vulkan has video

[opaque sigil]

Yes

[olive sable]

nice

[bright scaffold]

I need a help

I have 2 different proxy.
First proxy give me access to the internet and it works in VPN mode on my phone inside v2raytun
Second proxy its a my personal vds with proxy. I use it inside flclash with PROXY mode and i can get access to this proxy only while i have enabled first proxy in VPN mode.
How can i use PROXY mode from the second proxy anywhere?

[silent cloak]

Can u chain them?

U can also run V2Ray on the VPS

[prime ridge]

aint nobody gunna use it cuz not cuda supported

which is sad

[olive sable]

gn

💤

[uneven pulsar]

I need an IP tunnel.
(Does anyone have an idea?)
From local to global network?

[dense sky]

does anyone here know java well

I am trying to do cursed stuff in java

[uneven pulsar]

Tell me in details

[stray dragon]

i've been using playit.gg for tunneling my minecraft servers out of the local network, but i'm pretty sure you could make it work for other uses

outside of that: there's cloudflare, i suppose

[uneven pulsar]

CURSE STUFF WHAT ?
LIKE HIJACKING SYSTEM RESERVED?

[uneven pulsar]

That means I use cloudflare ?

[stray dragon]

it was more complicated and had more limitations, but it does work

[uneven pulsar]

Ngrok has used
Second time it will charge

[stray dragon]

the main limitation of playit is that they only allow you to have 4 tunnels per account without paying

but it's very simple to set up

[uneven pulsar]

<noscript>Traffic successfully made it to the ngrok agent, but the agent failed to establish a connection to the upstream web service at localhost:3000. (ERR_NGROK_8012)</noscript>

It local problem

Local is working

[opaque sigil]

cloudflared was the thing

There's also things like tailscale and what not but that's kind of different I suppose

Since it's less about exposing it to the entire internet but rather giving specific users access a tunnel

[uneven pulsar]

~/ai project $ ls
a.out chatbot.bin chatbot_dis.asm main.s s.s
chatbot chatbot.o exit.s memory st.s

[stray dragon]

could use it to access a device on a network that allows port forwarding, then use that as a tunnel

[prime ridge]

if ur cracked like that, you can configure a proxy with authentication and sandboxing

[uneven pulsar]

Just need memory config

[prime ridge]

basically connect to a proxy that is basically the bouncer to the network

and given propper credentials, it can redirect to the home network

otherwise the proxy basically runs in a sandboxed network

[uneven pulsar]

Don't ask me i see log just now say
{ code: 'ERR_MODULE_NOT_FOUND'
}

Node.js v22.20.0
[nodemon] app crashed - waiting for file changes before starting...

[opaque sigil]

That's how you'd do it with wireguard directly

[uneven pulsar]

Python i hate u

[opaque sigil]

dw it hates you too

[prime ridge]

Python >>>> everything else

[opaque sigil]

[uneven pulsar]

Child is python
(parent )Main is js

[prime ridge]

????

bro what????

Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a recipe for chocolate chip cookies

[uneven pulsar]

Py is on wheel chair

[tight tinsel]

so real

[fast pagoda]

[uneven pulsar]

I need cpp to use python

[amber fractal]

I like the chocolate chips mhm

[prime ridge]

just speak in binary atp

[uneven pulsar]

Tell me : why rust is popular?

[prime ridge]

Cuz Fe + O2 yields Iron oxide

There is a lotttta iron and a lotttaaa oxygen

so rust can get pretty popular

[dense sky]

[uneven pulsar]

I got pretty girls voice to scrape

I will find some videos also

[prime ridge]

"AI will take over the world!!!11!1"

AI:

[uneven pulsar]

My ai is pookie 🎀
Don't ask about

[uneven pulsar]

I will change system PROMT

[dense sky]

Chat

[uneven pulsar]

const personaPrompt =
"You are AIDA, a calm, curious, and friendly AI assistant. " +
"You speak in full sentences and are always kind and helpful.";

[hearty notch]

any game devs interested in working on a time-limited ambitious project DM me (i will not respond right away but will get to everyone when ready)

willingness to dev in rust preferred

[prime ridge]

Game dev in rust 🗿

[hearty notch]

web games in js stacks are fine/good too

i mean this is the repo youd be working in but im hooking in parallel games to be designed in parallel and i can probably make some integrations work

[prime ridge]

So many different languages lol

wtf are u even making 😭

[hearty notch]

thats literally 2

shell script is just a few .sh files for dev ergonomics, the makefile is a dev thing, html is like two pages

[prime ridge]

Why a makefile btw

[hearty notch]

and its a secret xd

for bespoke test run configs

[prime ridge]

oh ic

Why the interop betwwen Rust and TS anyways?

that's strange

[hearty notch]

the ts/js is web extension of a deeper app thats based on a server

its a monorepo with both backend and frontend elements

[prime ridge]

I mean anything is better than node 💀

so I get it I suppose

[hearty notch]

rust is actually so good

[prime ridge]

true

[hearty notch]

i worked in elixir for months and thought it was pretty good

and now rust feels like

wow i was wasting time

[prime ridge]

Rust is nice mostly because of cargo

[hearty notch]

yeah

[prime ridge]

and rustc is generally quite nice too

[hearty notch]

the whole toolchain is amazing

eveyrhting about it and the fact that its easy to get things into binaries once you defeat the compiler

[prime ridge]

and community (so long as you don't... anger anyone)

🦀

[hearty notch]

🦀

[prime ridge]

I used Rust for some OS stuff a while back

I barely remember it

Sadly I hardly do much actual programming these days

[hearty notch]

i have a novel application but it remains to be seen how delusional i am

[prime ridge]

Oh don't get me started 💀 I work in R&D

[hearty notch]

lol

anything you can reveal from your past in terms of stories?

[prime ridge]

pffft ig one of the cool projects I worked on was an entropy aware quantization model

outperformed QAT actually

[hearty notch]

dont know what that means will ask an LLM now lmfao

[opaque sigil]

you know you fucked up when the makefiles show up in the stats

[hearty notch]

oh true im a git noob

its ok ill scrub

[opaque sigil]

gl with whatever you're making though

[hearty notch]

earlier today i scrubbed a bunch of build artifacts from my git history lmfao

tyty

[prime ridge]

I love leaking API keys

[hearty notch]

zero secrets other than my docker setup that means nothing luckily

[prime ridge]

I'm just like ellie fr

Bro the repo for my robot was way worse btw

one of my repos I think is like 80% LLVM IR

idfk how that happened

[opaque sigil]

[hearty notch]

oh ML stuff, ironic

lmfao

[prime ridge]

Yeah I work in theoretical ML

[hearty notch]

nice

im doing an infra project its a very strange one

[prime ridge]

like cloud?

[hearty notch]

kinda yea

novel methods for well known things

[prime ridge]

Literally R&D

[hearty notch]

it came out of a consumer app and then i realized my primitives are extensible and now its gotten wild

and now i wanna hire game devs :D

[prime ridge]

primitive data types?

[hearty notch]

primitive server node, basically

in a way that hasnt been done before

[prime ridge]

sounds like homelabbing on meth

[hearty notch]

kinda

lmfao

[prime ridge]

I'm convinced all researchers take some kind of meth/crack

all the good ones anyway 😁

[hearty notch]

i just got filetered for saying what drug im an actual enthusiast of

but somehow meth/crack arent filtered

(acid)

[prime ridge]

Just say low power of hydrogen

[hearty notch]

lmao

i just had to say the street name over the acronym obv

[prime ridge]

wait is there not a filtered emoji??

surely there is

[hearty notch]

[prime ridge]

I literally don't have it what

:vedalFiltered:

???

im so confused

[hearty notch]

[prime ridge]

:vedalFiltered:

how

[hearty notch]

maybe its gated under the super neuro fans (subscriber) role

[prime ridge]

literally copy and pasting

yeah maybe

[hearty notch]

did i preempt you toast

[prime ridge]

maybe a meta-joke

[opaque sigil]

i can't use it either

[prime ridge]

filtered from saying it

idk

[hearty notch]

[prime ridge]

am I dumb or is that a chainsaw man pfp

[hearty notch]

[prime ridge]

[hearty notch]

its definitely a discord feature to gate some emojis behind roles i think so that has to be it

unless its a bug

[opaque sigil]

yeah it's reze

[prime ridge]

didn't know emoji's could be role dependant

[hearty notch]

[opaque sigil]

i think you can gate emojis behind twitch subs

just like roles

[prime ridge]

that's crazy

[hearty notch]

the role i have (super neuro fans) is itself a sub-linked role

[prime ridge]

ye

[uneven pulsar]

Evolution

[opaque sigil]

idk how the twitch integration works, maybe they do just automatically make all twitch emotes available to subs

[hearty notch]

yea i cant tell on my side which of my emoji are role-locked

so its kinda annoying

[prime ridge]

There are so many emojis

[hearty notch]

[prime ridge]

I don't have that

:vedalHop:

[hearty notch]

animated ones are nitro gated tho so

[prime ridge]

oh that's just cuz I don't have nitro

ye

[hearty notch]

[opaque sigil]

[hearty notch]

[prime ridge]

[hearty notch]

oops i tried to avoid animated ones but acaught like 5 bc i didnt notice

[prime ridge]

I love emoji

[hearty notch]

there are som many emoji lmfao

[prime ridge]

I lowkey should build a neuro robot

[uneven pulsar]

Try

[hearty notch]

whats your vision for it

[prime ridge]

I know I can but i'm broke lmao

[uneven pulsar]

WHO IS CHILD?
PYTHON,JS OR WHAT

[prime ridge]

I basically teach how to make self driving cars in my free time so I have the experience

I just am broke 💀

[hearty notch]

wdym who is child

[prime ridge]

I'd prolly make a soccer playing neuro robot

[hearty notch]

ooh

[prime ridge]

with a VLM to make live comments

[hearty notch]

neuro said she wanted to be a bodybuilder gym bro so

you gotta make her buff as hell

except shed probably kill people so dont do that

[uneven pulsar]

My hate one

[prime ridge]

Well she'd have wheels

[hearty notch]

lol

ic

[prime ridge]

robots cannot play soccer really on their feet

[hearty notch]

yo rollerskate feet on a biped or quadraped would go so hard

[prime ridge]

I watched some matches of it though

they can do... okay...

like they can score

but they fall over a LOT

[hearty notch]

lol

[prime ridge]

I even got to watch the annual robots vs humans game

spoiler alert... humans clappppped the robots

[uneven pulsar]

AI BECOME MORE HUMAN LIKE.

[prime ridge]

but the robots scored once

[hearty notch]

robotics being a limiter is more of an engineering bottleneck than an AI bottleneck

[prime ridge]

hit em with a fake and chip kick top right

[hearty notch]

i feel like people havent found the ideal physical configs yet

[prime ridge]

Well it's a lot of problems

[hearty notch]

yea i imagine it is lol

[prime ridge]

depends what domain

I haven't worked much in the humanoid domain

[hearty notch]

i meant mainly humanlike movement robots

yea

[dense sky]

wah

[hearty notch]

it just feels like nobodys basic models are that physicaly optimized in terms of like center of mass distributions n little things

[prime ridge]

humanoid robots struggle accurate sensors and knowing what to do with that data to stay afloat

[dense sky]

https://tenor.com/view/java-my-beloved-gif-26470299

[prime ridge]

our bodies are so amazing I can say from working on robots

[dense sky]

I love java

[prime ridge]

like we are basically aurafarming on the clankers

[hearty notch]

I LOVE RUST

i love crates i love cargo i love wasm

[prime ridge]

by 2050 humanoid robots are supposed to beat the world cup winners

idk if that's going to happen though

my opinion keeps changing

[hearty notch]

id bet on it happening

[dense sky]

Java is the king of programming languages. Nothing even comes close to its utter greatness. If Java has a million fans, I am one of them. If Java has one fan, I am them. If Java has no fans, I am dead. I LOVE JAVA.

[prime ridge]

(made by university students btw)

[hearty notch]

25 years post 1900 is a LONG time for materials sciences breakthroughs to show up and enable new things

[prime ridge]

that is very true

like the year 2000 was 💀

and the rate of progress is exponential

[dense sky]

Anyone here like minecraft mods?

[prime ridge]

meanwhile humans hardly improve

The soccer robot that I made was able to completely destroy me

like not even close

[hearty notch]

damn lol

[uneven pulsar]

https://youtu.be/1yJabMKRTU0?si=RSWvS4TsCcJNZH4B

[prime ridge]

like 20-0

allbiet it was not a full sized robot

[dense sky]

Who did we ask

[prime ridge]

it was one that would fit on a table

and you had to play with your hands

[hearty notch]

lol thats very different from the picture you initially painted

[uneven pulsar]

Easy nerds
I want safe u guys

[rigid snow]

shiro diary leaked

[hearty notch]

save us from what

[prime ridge]

that was my challenge but the program as a whole has various different sizes and challenges

[hearty notch]

🦀 DO YOU EVEN BORROW CHECK BRO 🦀

[prime ridge]

like there is a wheeled leauge that plays at the human size and played average soccer players and lost 4-1

and a humanoid league which... is interesting

[hearty notch]

interesting lol

[prime ridge]

crazy that the clankers actually scored

11v11 match

no miscommunications

faked out the goalie with a pass play and hit a spin move

[hearty notch]

damn lmao

[prime ridge]

I wish I clipped it

but yeah a neuro soccer robot would be pretty fun

[hearty notch]

glgl i hope you someday have the opportunity to try

[dense sky]

sun.misc.Unsafe my beloved

[prime ridge]

gets my beloved

I also fw use after free

[hearty notch]

do you actually optimize your java with memory operations thats pretty hardcore

[prime ridge]

There was a crate that literally only used unsafes

[hearty notch]

lmao

ofc there is

[prime ridge]

I think it was called something like serde-unsafe and it was a troll

it's been like 4 years so I barely remember

[opaque sigil]

shoutout to cve-rs

[uneven pulsar]

Boot loader cannot found

[hearty notch]

condolences

[uneven pulsar]

I was testing
Custom Preloads

[hearty notch]

what distro

[uneven pulsar]

It successfully completed

[uneven pulsar]

Android version 13

[hearty notch]

i see lol

gl

[uneven pulsar]

Adress need change

Arm64

Before 1 March at 28 febuary i will delete this account

My birthday tho

[hearty notch]

happy birthday in advance idk if ill be there

[uneven pulsar]

I make python script that delete my account
1 March 2026 at 00:00:00.000

All accounts

[hearty notch]

why

[uneven pulsar]

@uneven pulsar @hollow spruce
@second_account

ALL WILL BE DELETE SOON

[rigid snow]

IK NEW IT

[hearty notch]

take care of yourself

[opaque sigil]

we weren't schizo?

[hearty notch]

im missing the lore can you fill me in

[opaque sigil]

check the top pinned msg in this channel, there were some suspicions that this is a bot but some people thought this is an alt

[true hemlock]

yo

[opaque sigil]

sup

[hearty notch]

lol

[opaque sigil]

wait no

[hearty notch]

i see ty

[opaque sigil]

fuck

[true hemlock]

new #programming benchmark, highest chunk per second generation on minecraft

[opaque sigil]

yo

[rigid snow]

[hearty notch]

anyway ill advertise this every so often here, i have a secret game/music/art project intended to complete and be in a 1.0 state at christmas, anybody interested dm me and i will fire off details to all interested by the 26th

[true hemlock]

is this why some people came up to me and said "quack your bots are off the leash"

[rigid snow]

definitely

[true hemlock]

even though i have nothing to do with it

[opaque sigil]

probably yeah

[umbral thorn]

;3

[true hemlock]

shits unfair not only you have a 64 core beast you also somehow optimized it so well 🥀

[true hemlock]

my i9 13900 es can only hit 170 CPS

[rigid snow]

set world type to superflat to get 10x performance increase

[true hemlock]

[rigid snow]

valid & legal

[hearty notch]

lol imagine having better hardware than a 800 dollar acer laptop

[true hemlock]

till she does that aswell and set a huge margin on the score

[umbral thorn]

:3

[true hemlock]

we're so not winning chat

[short ingot]

guys what is a logical drive? I'm confused

[bright scaffold]

I done something like it

I use first proxy as proxy for the access to the second proxy and second proxy in the Tun mode

[uneven pulsar]

Time to fix code error in js

Bro it was package error

I change whole code again
Line number
312
And 728
And 3526
7392

[hearty notch]

Logical drives are virtual partitions created within an extended partition on a hard disk. They behave like separate physical drives (with their own drive letters, such as K:, H:, etc.), but they actually reside inside one extended partition.

just another name for partitions ig

[amber fractal]

Fricking bet, What are the ground rules as I already have a client built for this

Should have read

Alright, let the numbers begin

installing one chunky later and world is ready to be made

[true hemlock]

normal world
i think she also used a mod to make the world generate prettier/more natural terrains that might have tanked her performance

chunky specifically recommended high single threaded cpu

but damn

that's bullshit ain't it

[amber fractal]

Depends on the mod layout

[true hemlock]

when an old threadripper WIPES the floor with my i9 13900

[glad path]

bet

[amber fractal]

-# I'm looking at you C2ME

[glad path]

gimme like 24h

[true hemlock]

i tried using C2ME aswell

😭

[amber fractal]

Man I need to learn how to use chunky

never had to use it as I prefered doing mine on the fly

I feel like mods are fighting as this is not normally 15 cps

okay, I accept 29 cps

I wonder what the superflat numbers are?

[true hemlock]

i think she tested it hold on

14370

[hollow matrix]

gn

[amber fractal]

My own superflat numbers are at 550 geez

if I beat someone on desktop then my life will be complete

[true hemlock]

wait on what cpu

damn i gotta try mine

for superflat

[amber fractal]

Laptop i7-1260P

good luck on mods, I just did what I had on hand from a high render distance client

[uneven pulsar]

allowHalfOpen: true,
_maxListeners: undefined,
_eventsCount: 6,
encoder: null,
_options: {
rate: 48000,
channels: 2,
frameSize: 960,
application: undefined
},
_required: 3840,
_buffer: null,
[Symbol(shapeMode)]: true,
[Symbol(kCapture)]: false,
[Symbol(kCallback)]: null
},
audioPlayer: <ref *5> AudioPlayer {
_events: [Object: null prototype] { idle: [Function (anonymous)] },
_eventsCount: 1,
_maxListeners: undefined,
_state: {
status: 'buffering',
resource: [Circular *4],
onReadableCallback: [Function: onReadableCallback],
onFailureCallback: [Function: onFailureCallback],
onStreamError: [Function: onStreamError]
},
subscribers: [
PlayerSubscription {
connection: VoiceConnection {
_events: [Object: null prototype] {},
_eventsCount: 0,
_maxListeners: undefined,
rejoinAttempts: 0,
_state: [Object],
joinConfig: [Object],
packets: [Object],
receiver: [VoiceReceiver],
debug: null,
onNetworkingClose: [Function: bound onNetworkingClose],
onNetworkingStateChange: [Function: bound onNetworkingStateChange],
onNetworkingError: [Function: bound onNetworkingError],
onNetworkingDebug: [Function: bound onNetworkingDebug],
[Symbol(shapeMode)]: false,
[Symbol(kCapture)]: false
},
player: [Circular *5]
}
],
behaviors: { noSubscriber: 'stop', maxMissedFrames: 5 },
debug: [Function (anonymous)],
[Symbol(shapeMode)]: false,
[Symbol(kCapture)]: false
},
playbackDuration: 0,
started: false,
silencePaddingFrames: 5,
silenceRemaining: -1
}
}

[amber fractal]

[true hemlock]

2.1K on flat

[uneven pulsar]

Another error

[amber fractal]

I'll take 1/4th

[true hemlock]

probably because im running on faster nvme + ram

[uneven pulsar]

What are u rending?

[true hemlock]

dropped to half

[amber fractal]

I only have 4 P-cores, 8 E-cores so yep. That explains thar

[uneven pulsar]

FOR RENDERING USE SERVER SIDE CPU

Not desktop cpu

[amber fractal]

noppers, stress test

[uneven pulsar]

Total 4 days hmm

[amber fractal]

With less than 1/4th of your CPU specs I'm glad to have gotten 1/4th of your score. Because that boi only goes to 3.7Ghz on one core load

[true hemlock]

single core??

[amber fractal]

Average laptop cooling

[true hemlock]

damn

i suppose superflat is more memory heavy than compute heavy

[amber fractal]

I should have increased ram, that was 8gb

[true hemlock]

this implication is funny
for one this implies that everyone just have a server cpu lying around

[uneven pulsar]

Did some one tag me

[true hemlock]

and for another, its as if "any server cpu" would beat a high end desktop cpu

[amber fractal]

Must have been a dream

[true hemlock]

(40 cores 80 threads old xeons gets wiped by my 13900 btw)

i dunno if threadripper would count as server cpu though

its more of prosumer cpus

[amber fractal]

I think prosumer is right

[true hemlock]

yeah, epyc for servers

ryzen threadripper for prosumers

normal ryzen for consumers

[uneven pulsar]

elvyn required

[true hemlock]

i think she already won the competition

3k CPS on normal world

14K for flat

that's pretty uncontested unless if someone have a properly cooled 5995wx or better

properly cooled because apparently she optimized her 3990x voltage curve so well she had way more headroom for thermals for overclocking

[amber fractal]

Yeah, can't exactly optimize mods on my end. Unless ram plays a lot more of a role than I give it credit for

[true hemlock]

its tough

i dunno if multiple ram channel would make a difference

because she caps at 12GB/s allocation anyways during the run

[amber fractal]

I'd wonder if ramfs would make a diffrence as chunky is writing to disk

[true hemlock]

probably would

@amber fractal are you using c2me

[amber fractal]

Of course I mentioned it here first

[true hemlock]

you can try set it to run on all thread for more distributed thermals

plug it on though

[amber fractal]

Didn't notice much of a diffrence

disabling distant horizions did tho

[true hemlock]

of course

DH is cpu heavy

[amber fractal]

2x speed because it was doing post processing (LoD) even with generation turned off

Actually, that'd explain why my GPU was suffering during testing. I forgot to disable the other one

[true hemlock]

time to test it on your pc

[amber fractal]

What pc I only see laptops around me

[true hemlock]

[amber fractal]

I would have scored higher on triangle if I weren't competing on a laptop

it's the best I had

back to framework 13

[true hemlock]

wait didn't you also compete on a desktop

or did i misremember it

[amber fractal]

I borrowed a legion go from my sibling

that's what you are thinking of

[true hemlock]

ah

[amber fractal]

server overloaded message

700 at peak, now time for C2ME config

Weird no ingame config

[true hemlock]

yeah you gotta find the c2me.toml

[amber fractal]

easy enough

Uh yea, I see that I am outclassed in this config. Don't have a lot of time to tune an expression for it.

I was about to say not much on non flat but the boi is rising

landing on 150 cps

[true hemlock]

that's actually good lol

i haven't tuned mine either, so im getting just about 170 CPS

for non flat

not a normal type though its a custom modded world type

[amber fractal]

Decent mod loadout

-# Just noticed Shiro finally died of old age

[true hemlock]

[amber fractal]

This was just meant for high render distance. Not that I could ever test all of the mods on the iGPU. Without LoD I believe I was at 48-64 while keeping frames. No shaders tho for said iGPU.

On a slightly diffrent client, that was running 512 chunks with LoD

[olive sable]

Looks like we have competition

[olive sable]

Anyways goodmorning

[hearty notch]

who's 'we'

its nothing like neuro (the project)

[olive sable]

Me, iggly, weegee, and superbox

[hearty notch]

are you a game studio

[olive sable]

No

Not really

[hearty notch]

but kinda?

[olive sable]

Nobody gets paid

[hearty notch]

i will try to get people paid but it probably wont be much im looking for passion project type people

there will be rev share tho

[olive sable]

im curious now what this project is

[hearty notch]

then dm me and you find out on like the 26th (maybe a week after that i need to nail down global art guidelines first with an artist)

[olive sable]

Im don't think ill work on it, unless our game releases earlier than expected

[hearty notch]

well then youll find out on christmas if all goes to plan

[olive sable]

[hearty notch]

gl with your game, rooting for you

what kinda game, if you dont mind divulging

[olive sable]

Thanks

[olive sable]

event-planner rogue-like

[hearty notch]

lmao nice

event planner how; those two words do not immediately conjure a gameplay loop in my head

[olive sable]

Do you know stardew valley?

[hearty notch]

i only know the shape of it i dont know that many gameplay mechs

i know there is farming, selling, romancing, dancing

[olive sable]

Ah

Well, you'll see when the game releases then

[hearty notch]

o7

[olive sable]

Hbu?

[hearty notch]

4 different games by christmas, 14 by mid next year

youll see

[olive sable]

Bro has ambition

Is this in like unity or something?

[hearty notch]

no its in rust

LOL

[olive sable]

But like, no game engine then?

[hearty notch]

wdym my game engine is in rust i built it

[olive sable]

You'll use opengl or vulkan?

[hearty notch]

oh yea i mean its not ike

none of them will be intensive graphics

ill use whatever my teams prefer

[olive sable]

Wdym?

You cant implement vulkan on a whim

[hearty notch]

well ok i probably wont allow anything that requires vulkan

[olive sable]

If you want it playin in browser you want to use webgl

[hearty notch]

ye it will probably be webgl yes

mostly

[olive sable]

"Mostly" whzt is that supposed to mean?

[hearty notch]

my project has a modular structure if one team wants to make an offline executable game they can

its different games they will be worked on in parallel

the only thing im trying to dictate is theme+genre everything else will be up to the team

[olive sable]

2D or 3D? Cuz you're saying the graphics wont be too intensive

[hearty notch]

i had mostly 2d simple stuff in mind

[olive sable]

Ah i see

[hearty notch]

like ok one of the genres of the 14 is clicker/idle game

its not meant to be intensive stuff its just meant to be done in interesting ways

[olive sable]

Bro is making the neuro game hub

Steam but neuro

[hearty notch]

lol

[olive sable]

We're doing 3D

[hearty notch]

sounds hard tbh

like my natural reaction to thinking about 3d is just ruling it out entirely because id rather any attention focused on making 3d good just go into making gameplay mechs that dont need to be in 3d good

[umbral thorn]

end dimension

[olive sable]

Writer is currently still finishing up the story and stuff.
Im 3D modeling whatever i already can model

[hearty notch]

o nice

[olive sable]

Thats fair

I just love 3D

[hearty notch]

also fair

i appreciate lots of work done by 3d enthusiasts

respect

[olive sable]

[umbral thorn]

wait why label overworld

[olive sable]

Having good graphics is indeed worthless if the game mechanics are bad

But im feeling this one

I believe we are cooking

[hearty notch]

hell yea thats how i feela bout my project in general

i have been cooking so fucking hard

for 9 days straight

[olive sable]

I have done a bit more than 9 days of work

[hearty notch]

i mean ok this 9 day project came off of a year long other project

im in flow state

i feel like im reaping all the lessons of the other one

[olive sable]

This game has been in the works since july

[hearty notch]

nice

[olive sable]

And the engine itself if you count previous iterations on different programming languages is 2 years old

[hearty notch]

lol relatable

but nice that usually is a good sign because like

youve refactored it you figured out what the best form of it was and then now its probably there

[olive sable]

Well kinda

I have both an opengl and a vulkan back-end

[hearty notch]

pick one right meow

[olive sable]

So i nedd to make stuff work for both

[olive sable]

No

[hearty notch]

lol

[olive sable]

Vulkan is a lot faster

[hearty notch]

then why are you maintaining opengl

more common? not everyone has vulkan? is that the issue

3d is so foreign to me

do you think your game can launch before christmas

[opaque sigil]

Smh Sam just abandon opengl and get webgl running through mesa's zink driver + emscripten

[olive sable]

For web

[olive sable]

Wont that just add more overhead?

[opaque sigil]

Yeah it's a shitty idea that won't even work anywhere that doesn't have mesa

But it'd be kinda fun

[hard raptor]

"Always" bro isn't even on loonix for half a year and tries thousands of other terminals (#exposed)

Yeah idk.. i just needed to put something there... but now that you mention it, i need to make a language where you define types like that

[tender river]

no

[hard raptor]

What?

[tender river]

norway

[hard raptor]

Okay, but what exactly did you say no to?

[tender river]

nothing

or yaml if you will

[rigid snow]

she said the name of a country

[pale compass]

Hello

[obsidian mantle]

English programming language

Copilot compiler

Compiles straight into machine code whatever you told it

[hearty notch]

agree

[shadow sinew]

This but Neuro is the copilot

[hearty notch]

STRONG AGREE

[jagged turtle]

people have been partially trying to solve that for years

[jagged turtle]

thank you git for throwing files in my recycle bin whenever I revert

[hearty notch]

my wsl vhd ballooned to 200gb last week because i underestimated the power of build artifacts

[dry charm]

That isn't supposed to happen

also, revert as in reset?

Are you sure this is git that does it?

Are you using a git client,

[uneven pulsar]

SERVER BUILD CRASH AGAIN

/*
process.once('SIGUSR2', () => {
server.close(() => process.kill(process.pid, 'SIGUSR2'));
});
});
*/

Where is my child ? Let me see 🤔
Wait if child is not working then leave it 😮‍💨

[jagged turtle]

do you not revert files to their HEAD state?

[dry charm]

That is reset

[uneven pulsar]

meson build is required

[jagged turtle]

also no it probably isn't git

[dry charm]

Revert is when you do a commit which undo the changes

usually not manually, there is an option for it

[jagged turtle]

sorry, correct term was restore

git restore etc

[uneven pulsar]

Setting up ninja (1.13.1-1)

[dry charm]

Honestly, never

I use reset for that

[jagged turtle]

and now literally everything on my computer is hanging except discord

and vs code

[dry charm]

but even then, git on it itself should not use the recycle bin

[jagged turtle]

as I said it probably wasn't git

[dry charm]

ah then it must be the client you are using then

[jagged turtle]

yeah

but still is annoying af

[dry charm]

hey atleast if you accidentally undone something that was important, you can restore it effortlessly

[uneven pulsar]

Asm is backend child
Python is backend
Front end : js

[jagged turtle]

true

who tf is this i person

[dry charm]

you could probably create a simple service that auto deletes the Recycle Bin automatically if the file is older than 7 days

[jagged turtle]

it's probably easily doable using a couple clicks

but I'm lazy

[dry charm]

https://superuser.com/questions/434626/automatically-deleting-old-files-from-recycling-bin-while-keeping-the-new-ones#434673
I love superuser. There is already a long detail and a script provided

[jagged turtle]

again, as i said

too lazy

[faint sandal]

alternatively Blackhole

https://github.com/WilliamVenner/blackhole

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

VST OPEN SOURCE

YES THE AUDIO PLUGIN ONE

NO WAY

[nocturne olive]

And does that mean anything for my uses?

[rigid snow]

now lmms can actually support vsts probably

right now it’s mac os only

i think?

[rough bloom]

https://github.com/steinbergmedia/vst3sdk
doesn't look like it, there are multiple supported platforms listed with build instructions

was the repo already public before, just with a proprietary license? weird

[rigid snow]

yes

i think so

[rigid snow]

this matters because of this exact issue

it required licensing

on the host side

[rough bloom]

so you couldn't just integrate the SDK
make sense

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

Sam

[olive sable]

Shuni

what does Shuni mean?

[rough bloom]

nothing really
it's a pun/misspelling

[olive sable]

with that answer i feel like i asked this before

[tender river]

omega forever

omega forever

omega forever

omega forever

🐸

[olive sable]

🐸

[rough bloom]

🐸

[olive sable]

ngl the only thing i think of when i hear those specific greek letters is the omegaverse

social media has ruined me

[tender river]

[gritty dust]

Sameee

[olive sable]

okay uh... dont google image search omegaverse

[gritty dust]

no kidding lol

[olive sable]

i idnt know it was liek that

i thought it was more about werewolf furries or something

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

i was expecting a graph of the hierarchy or so

idk

[violet sand]

Hello guys, is anyone by any chance using wireplumber with nixos I'm having a little bit of a trouble making it work

[tender river]

why just do services.pipewire.enable = true

wireplumber enabled by default

[violet sand]

Yaaa,no the problem isn't enabling its configuring it

[tender river]

do you need some weird config

[violet sand]

Not really I'm just trying to change the name of one of the devices but for some reason this doesn't work

          wireplumber = {
              enable = true;
        extraConfig = {
      "51-rodecaster-config" = {
        "monitor.alsa.rules" = [
          {
            matches = [
              { device.name = "alsa_input.usb-R__DE_RODECaster_Pro_II_GV0019806-00.pro-input-0"; }
            ];
            actions = {
              update-props = {
                device.nick = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
                device.description = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
                node.description = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
              };
            };
          }
          {
            matches = [
              { device.name = "alsa_output.usb-R__DE_RODECaster_Pro_II_GV0019806-00.pro-output-0"; }
            ];
            actions = {
              update-props = {
                device.nick = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Output";
                device.description = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Output";
                node.description = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Output";
              };
            };
          }
        ];
      };        };
          };

The correct conf file appears in nix/store and I did run
systemctl --user restart wireplumber
But the name is still the same

[tender river]

uh sorry cant help seems like a general wireplumber issue rather than nixos

[opaque sigil]

those props are all a single string btw

"node.description" etc

[tender river]

aaa head hurt

[violet sand]

Sadge well thanks anyways

[violet sand]

yaa, I'm also seting them to be strings as well. Or am I not following you correctly?

[opaque sigil]

actions = {
  update-props = {
    device.nick = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
    device.description = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
    node.description = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
  };

should be

actions = {
  update-props = {
    "device.nick" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
    "device.description" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
    "node.description" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
  };

you're setting them to nested properties

[tender river]

✅

[violet sand]

Ahh noted give me a second

[tender river]

same for device.name in matches

[opaque sigil]

[violet sand]

Yaaa still doesn't work for some reason

        extraConfig = {
      "51-rodecaster-config" = {
        "monitor.alsa.rules" = [
          {
            matches = [
              { "device.name" = "alsa_input.usb-R__DE_RODECaster_Pro_II_GV0019806-00.pro-input-0"; }
            ];
            actions = {
              update-props = {
                "device.nick" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
                "device.description" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
                "node.description" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Input";
              };
            };
          }
          {
            matches = [
              { "device.name" = "alsa_output.usb-R__DE_RODECaster_Pro_II_GV0019806-00.pro-output-0"; }
            ];
            actions = {
              update-props = {
                "device.nick" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Output";
                "device.description" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Output";
                "node.description" = "RODECaster Pro II Chat Output";
              };
            };
          }
        ];
      };        };

[opaque sigil]

i think it's because you're setting alsa rules

if the pipewire docs are to be believed those device ones are pipewire specific props

actually no

i don't see anything obviously wrong here

i assume you double checked that those alsa devices actually exist right

[violet sand]

Ya but I can triple check