programming

[prime ridge]

my ddr5 runs at 5200 rn

[fast pagoda]

my ddr5 is 6000 actually

with 4 slots full on this

[prime ridge]

whats ur l*tency if u know

cuz that matters potentially more

[fast pagoda]

it's expo

one sec ill get it

[prime ridge]

forgot that was a banned word here

been so long since I been in neurocord

[glad path]

why do you have 125gb of swap

[prime ridge]

that's what I was saying 💀

[fast pagoda]

not paying attention when this install ran with a version of my install config that

had equal swap to ram

lol

and i didnt notice

[glad path]

why do you need 125gb of ram

i have 36gb and get around just fine

[fast pagoda]

for fun and science

[prime ridge]

even gen5 ssd is too slow

[fast pagoda]

this is the ram

[tender river]

rookie numbers

[hollow matrix]

free ram is just an illusion for me

[fast pagoda]

but also i dont have an instant need for storage space

so it's like

whatever

[glad path]

i usually have like 0mb free

[prime ridge]

why

[hollow matrix]

same

[prime ridge]

there is no reason for this much swap

[tender river]

[prime ridge]

I have 512mb of swap 😂

[glad path]

"free"
"available"
girl tfym by that

[prime ridge]

and it's honestly redundant

[glad path]

what's the difference

[fast pagoda]

mine is super redundant

[hollow matrix]

Should I uninstall netscape so it stops running shit in the background?

[glad path]

yes

[fast pagoda]

one is playing hard to get wants you to approach, the other is waving huge signals to PLEASE INVITE ME OUT

[tender river]

available -> used to speed up the system but that cache is not strictly necessary and can be used if someone really really needs it
free -> not used for anything

[glad path]

running shit in the background slows down stuff

[fast pagoda]

n-netscape?/?

[glad path]

which is which ._.

i feel like I should be able to tell

smh

[fast pagoda]

i know they are like an old people isp right now i didnt think they had any malware adware out

[uneven pulsar]

My memory

[tender river]

like if a program is currently reading a file from the filesystem it may be loaded to memory even before the program reads the rest of the file, then it counts as available

[prime ridge]

the difference is that available ram is what ur OS can allocate and free ram is what is ACTUALLY empty with no pointers to that data

like available includes cache

[uneven pulsar]

Phone was hard
U need compress WHOLE things in one app

I will change into preloader

[tender river]

[prime ridge]

bro what

[tender river]

it never gets old

[uneven pulsar]

Preloader is too heavy

[prime ridge]

what are you talking about

[hollow matrix]

Clearly not broken

[prime ridge]

I HATE ONENOTE

[hollow matrix]

And netscape thinks it's a printer

[prime ridge]

why do u have netscape

also what is this UI

[hollow matrix]

as a joke

[prime ridge]

is it from windows ME

[fast pagoda]

somehow my swap does get used

[prime ridge]

or ur actual system

[fast pagoda]

i mean i dont have enough ram i know

but i still feel like it should use the ram

must be very low prio shit

[hollow matrix]

Nope, found it on internet archive

[glad path]

btop enjoyer spotted

[prime ridge]

the kernel will use the swap over physical ram if it knows it won't be touched for a while (kind like the people in this server)

[fast pagoda]

kek

yeah i figure it's just old moldy stale shit that isn't being actively used but might need to be slightly available

[hollow matrix]

btm is better

[fast pagoda]

i use both

and glances

[prime ridge]

ryzen 9900X is crazy btw

[fast pagoda]

9900x3d so it has fun stupid shit with ccds not showing

not really but i did get baited into turning on x3d turbo and had 6 cores showing

and panicked

[glad path]

lmme try that

[prime ridge]

I have an ultra 7 265k

[hollow matrix]

you should, bottom is clearly the superior one

[prime ridge]

which is slightly better but I only got it because I got a good deal on it

it was $200 so that's a nobrainer

[glad path]

is it configurable

[fast pagoda]

no real gpu graph is there

[hollow matrix]

idfk haven't tried

[fast pagoda]

i always figured i was just not config it for it and didnt bother to find it

[prime ridge]

ah yes 50c

very important info

[glad path]

i still dont even see my gpu

like how hard can it be for any of these to monitor my gpu cores

[prime ridge]

just use nvidia-smi

[glad path]

they just ignore the dedicated sillicon gpu

[fast pagoda]

i dont get gpu core here but i get it ootb in btop

[glad path]

i dont get it in btop or btm

[fast pagoda]

dynamic gpu swap w/ integrated is touchy

btop you get nothing hitting 5?

are you using proprietary or noveau

[glad path]

nothing

[fast pagoda]

to me sounds like driver is fubar somewhere

lol

[glad path]

there's literally temperature monitors for the gpu cores

[hollow matrix]

It does seem configurable to answer your question

[glad path]

like the sillicon chips have gpu clusters

[fast pagoda]

man thank god i was too lazy to run man

[glad path]

but literally everything ignores them

[fast pagoda]

what gpu is it?

[glad path]

scroll up

the m3 has cpu and gpu units

both in the same chip

but the units are seperate

[fast pagoda]

oh yeah good luck

[fast pagoda]

i forgorr

mac

[glad path]

from what I can tell most things only support nvidia and amd gpus

[hollow matrix]

Oh, I didn't scroll, there's a lot of stuff holy shit

[glad path]

i like btop better honestly

works nicely out of the box

too lazy to configure btm

also btop looks really nice

[hollow matrix]

It's okay ig

[fast pagoda]

i do liek glances

if you like dense

[hollow matrix]

Great setup

[fast pagoda]

you're not meant to glance at it yet

[hollow matrix]

certainly not the best I've seen

[fast pagoda]

it takes some getting used to and tinkering i guess, it's like

idk what it is, it's messy but it gives a lot of kinda nice random info that other tops miss i

or if they dont miss it's more obtuse to see it//requires interaction

[hollow matrix]

htop is a bit boring but does give you a good bit of info about processes

[hollow matrix]

And then there's top...
The worst by far

[fast pagoda]

i really like nvitop as a "fancier" nvtop

but im gonna have to strangle the aur maintainer

because it's out of date on aur all the time

currently is

boutta go start maintaining it myself instead

[hollow matrix]

Steal the maintainer's identity out of a grudge

[fast pagoda]

there's a LOT of tops

atop is out there too

then you have iotop

iftop

bandwhich if you count it as a top it is just not named top

[fast pagoda]

bashtop/bpytop/bashtop all the same one but bpytop is python, works kinda slo, bashtop runs like it just stepped in dog poop with both shoes

[hollow matrix]

what do I pick, I'm not a linux expert

[fast pagoda]

chitose is one too

[fast pagoda]

this is just 2 http servers

shouldnt functionally matter

[hollow matrix]

ok

[fast pagoda]

unless you have a preference

[hollow matrix]

nope

[fast pagoda]

apache is a bigger boi, lighttpd is probably the move if you arent planning on hosting much to my understanding

[hollow matrix]

ok

clear

nope thats not the terminal

@fast pagoda Starting strong

nvitop seems kind of boring imo

[glad path]

hear me out

just

use

top

[fast pagoda]

we gon be fetching now

grabbing my favourite fetch fetchfetch to make sure to keep track of my fetches

[hollow matrix]

top fucking sucks

[glad path]

yeah

[hollow matrix]

I made a list so I don't have to keep going back to the image of the install command

[fast pagoda]

important to keep track of what truly matters

there aer so many fucking fetch tools

[hollow matrix]

putting atop in shit tier

[fast pagoda]

atop is pretty dog

[hollow matrix]

no

[fast pagoda]

i mean pretty dogshit

not that it's pretty, dawg

[hollow matrix]

Not sure how I feel about nmon starting you with nothing

[fast pagoda]

if i have to configure the entire thing it's a no from me dawg

[hollow matrix]

yeah

[proud ivy]

Is this WSL 2?

[hollow matrix]

netdata goes in shit tier too

[hollow matrix]

yes

[proud ivy]

I noticed that Zed editor on Windows is finally released.

[glad path]

macos activity monitor is C+ at most

[hollow matrix]

yup

[glad path]

i find it kind of useless

[proud ivy]

[prime ridge]

fastfetch is nice

[glad path]

guys

ps is the best activity monitor

trust

[hollow matrix]

hmmm, bashtop reminds me of something

[hollow matrix]

photoshop or powershell?

[prime ridge]

Attention Htop is all you need

[fast pagoda]

i am about to run a blessed command

[glad path]

the command

[prime ridge]

u gotta ss

[proud ivy]

Visual Studio 2026?

[glad path]

nuh uh

[hollow matrix]

yeah no

[prime ridge]

ps is for chads

[glad path]

ps aux | grep my beloved

lol

[fast pagoda]

abfetch && albafetch && archfetch && aura && bestfetch && chaotic-neofetch && countryfetch && cpufetch && crabfetch && disfetch && exfetch && fastfetch && hyfetch && neofetch && nerdfetch && nofetch && novafetch && pfetch && ramfetch && rufetch && rxfetch && treefetch && uwufetch && fetchfetch there's absolutely NO other syntax to run multiple things in sequence, ; isnt real

[prime ridge]

no way

[glad path]

i love being able to ps aux | grep the very ps aux | grep you just ran

[proud ivy]

Are you using Oh My Posh?

[hollow matrix]

mhm ncdu scanning node_modules directories

[hollow matrix]

yes

[prime ridge]

my favorite monitoring command has got to be rm

[hollow matrix]

[hollow matrix]

Why do you o7 me at every interaction

[glad path]

nah sudo is better

[prime ridge]

hear me out the best... monitoring software has gotttt to be mv

[hollow matrix]

sudo rm -rf /dev

[glad path]

/dev isn't even actual "files"

[prime ridge]

everything is a file

[glad path]

i sure do love wiping /dev/tty

[prime ridge]

say good bye to ur ttys!

[hollow matrix]

how should I know? I don't try deleting essential os directories often

[open copper]

speaking of monitoring

[glad path]

it's not like it ever had what I was looking for

[prime ridge]

uh oh

[glad path]

every time i need to find a port its fucking gone

smh

[hollow matrix]

Oh shit

[glad path]

huh

[hollow matrix]

What did we do

[glad path]

[prime ridge]

It was all afunyun.pt

[glad path]

ok guys hear me out on this one

how about

dc as the best monitoring program

[hollow matrix]

I'll say ncdu is mid

[proud ivy]

Screenfetch and neofetch are old, fastfetch is new.

[prime ridge]

neofetch was my fav

[glad path]

now you can do your rpn calculations in all their buggy glory

[prime ridge]

I still prefer it

[fast pagoda]

fetchfetch is so mad

[glad path]

i have neofetch

[fast pagoda]

huh what did i do this time

[hollow matrix]

actually should I run that

[glad path]

no way guys it says I have a gpu

[glad path]

sure

its not anything bad

[fast pagoda]

habeeb it

[prime ridge]

Apple hardware 🤢

[glad path]

wait how do you push the stack again

with dc

[hollow matrix]

It's taking a suspiciously long time to do anything

[glad path]

its good but expensiv

[glad path]

you did put rpn in right

[hollow matrix]

tf is rpn

[proud ivy]

It's too expensive to afford.

[glad path]

reverse polish notation

[proud ivy]

I love the acrylic texture of Windows Terminal.

[fast pagoda]

idk why the hell i always install coolretroterm

had the bright idea to try another terminal and was like surely this wont be horrible

[amber fractal]

I admit to installing this once

[hollow matrix]

Huh, conky is a window, not sure if I like that

[glad path]

i cant get it to just push the stack and giving me the output aa

[fast pagoda]

conky is a window that people pin and take the decorations off ya

pin to like

the background lule

conky has been around the block

[hollow matrix]

wsl isn't advanced enough to let you right click on the linux windows

[fast pagoda]

oh

gui wsl ive never heard good things about

also your mouse may work but be offset randomly

[hollow matrix]

I do experience that sometimes

I will say that gnome is a bit better though

[fast pagoda]

cursed lule

[amber fractal]

My brain just went to installing a TUI doom application on a video wall and just having it on coolretroterm.

[fast pagoda]

i like coolretroterm's futuristic theme ironically

but it's also just kinda not a very good terminal

it doesnt support a lot of shit

[glad path]

why am i thinking of term \❗ everything

[amber fractal]

-# Not the midterms

[glad path]

the program

[hollow matrix]

The padding seems a bit off though

[prime ridge]

no way

[amber fractal]

I don't have said hardware, but it would be funny

[glad path]

oh...

yeah

[proud ivy]

Microsoft Edit supports the keyboard and the mouse.

[hollow matrix]

Can't remember what it's supposed to look like, I haven't used an ubuntu vm in a while

[hollow matrix]

Seems to be a problem with about pages in general for some reason

[proud ivy]

I usually use WSL 2 to package my Python programs for Linux platforms.

[uneven pulsar]

reminder to do sudo apt update

[proud ivy]

While binaries (in Go) are compiled using GitHub Actions.

WSL 2 is a comfortable tool to work with.

[hollow matrix]

@glad path Do macos and linux context menus for files get long like they can on windows?

[short ingot]

Chat, which linux distro should I install?

[hollow matrix]

slackware

[short ingot]

what's that?

And link?

[hollow matrix]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware

[keen hatch]

gentoo

[short ingot]

I was thinking arch, cause I like its design

omarchy maybe

[hollow matrix]

freeBSD

[proud ivy]

It depends on your purpose.

[short ingot]

my purpose is development

[fast pagoda]

wew

one of them expected xwindow and exploded

[short ingot]

my windows install has been piling up bloatware upon bloatware over the years

[fast pagoda]

fetchfetch exploded just from nothing

[proud ivy]

I just use WSL 2 (Ubuntu) for program development. It's easy to use.

[short ingot]

my wsl install broke itself

[proud ivy]

[fast pagoda]

wsl is more prone to breaking than actual linux tbh

[hollow matrix]

What the fuck is that linux distro

[fast pagoda]

garuda lmao

i dunno why but i like their defaults for like everything, except i haev to tone down their theme

[short ingot]

Failed to attach disk 'N:\Packages\CanonicalGroupLimited.Ubuntu_79rhkp1fndgsc\LocalState\ext4.vhdx' to WSL2: The system cannot find the file specified.
Error code: Wsl/Service/CreateInstance/MountDisk/HCS/ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND

Something happened, and I'm not bothered to fix it

[hollow matrix]

🇼 🇭

[fast pagoda]

ya boys wit da eegle

https://garudalinux.org

it's just like a cachy or an endeavor

and weirdly enough has been the most reliable of any of them

regular arch is the only one that has given less trouble of any kind

minor shit usually but

[hollow matrix]

One of the screenshots on the website is immediatly turning me away bc that circle should not be touching the edge, there should be some sort of margin

[fast pagoda]

but i have to pay attention when installing that and i was not ready4arch install when i finished rebuilding pc

they have it too FUCKING round i agree

[short ingot]

which flashing tool allows flashing of disk partitions btw?

[fast pagoda]

and on the lleft

[fast pagoda]

wait you want to flash like one(1) partition only?

or do you mean like flashing a drive in general

[short ingot]

yea

1 partition of a usb drive

[fast pagoda]

you could just wipe the drive then make a new partition on the fresh drive + put the files there

[hollow matrix]

Windows lagged a lot the last time I tried to make an ubuntu vm, so if I stop talking for a while, it's probably bc I'm fighting through the lack of ram trying to close the vm

[fast pagoda]

idk if you can really flash one partition and only one partition

[short ingot]

wdym?

[hollow matrix]

wish me luck

[fast pagoda]

you are truly bold, running more than 2 things at a time

[hollow matrix]

nope, discord is the first, vmware is the second

[glad path]

no

[fast pagoda]

you can add more to context in linus

linux

[glad path]

at least not macos

[fast pagoda]

you absolutely can

[proud ivy]

Disk N. Is it a external hard disk?

[glad path]

you can add stuff to macos

[fast pagoda]

it depends on your DE tho

[short ingot]

I have like 17 disks

[glad path]

but it's not in the main dropdown

[short ingot]

2 tb each I think

[glad path]

it's in a subsection of the dropdown

[proud ivy]

[glad path]

so it keeps things nice and tidy

[fast pagoda]

ew

[proud ivy]

External hard disk: Make sure the disk is connected when the system starts and is not accidentally disconnected.

[hollow matrix]

I gave ubuntu less ram this time so hopefully I'll be fine

[short ingot]

It's connected via pcie I think

I sacrificed the gpu slots for this machine to have that many disks

at nvme speed

[fast pagoda]

making context menus 2 clicks to get to obviously normal options that you would regularly use is what windows did and it was the single worst UX decision microsoft has made in 20 years and that's a serious achievement

[glad path]

all the stuff u normally do is right there for the context menu

you dont need extra clicks

[fast pagoda]

u dont know that

neither do they

[glad path]

its a cascade type menu

anyhow i dont have anything other than default context menu stuff

[fast pagoda]

if it's not right there to just use a key to hit it i die

[glad path]

never needed to use anything

[hollow matrix]

I have to do this every time because it's faster then downloading a new ubuntu iso

[glad path]

[fast pagoda]

kek there were stil way more that were trying to run but more than one tried to list out how many snaps i had

aand i do not have any snaps, i'd be mad

me

[hollow matrix]

neuroWaiting

[fast pagoda]

left bar ubuntu layout fills me with dread

[proud ivy]

Gosh. So many disks. I just installed WSL 2 on my C disk cause it's the default.

[hollow matrix]

I would kill to have that on windows

[fast pagoda]

you can put your taskbar on the left

[hollow matrix]

Not on windows 11

[short ingot]

I like to have separate disks for separate things. (Not including all of my partitions)

[fast pagoda]

lmao did they remove that

[proud ivy]

[fast pagoda]

literally why

[hollow matrix]

yup

[fast pagoda]

start11 (stardock makes it) lets you do it since it replaces the taskbar

[hollow matrix]

Because fuck you they're still getting money

[fast pagoda]

not from me lule

not anymore

https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher this thing has explorer tweaks and can restore win10's taskbar which gives you left taskbar back

or top or whatever

just realized what this shit says as i was looking at it again

[hollow matrix]

I tried that but the windows 10 taskbar just doesn't fit with everything else at this point

Nyavidia

[fast pagoda]

easiest way to not have your decisions made for you arbitrarily and also reduce ram usage & increase performance in general

linux

main OS

[hollow matrix]

I'm sure I'll get around to it

[fast pagoda]

that was me a year ago

and look at me now

insufferable

as ever

[hollow matrix]

👆

Still waiting

Giving it less ram seemed to solve the performance problem

[fast pagoda]

is that a laptop

[hollow matrix]

yes

[fast pagoda]

no 32geeg path avail/compatible with that thing? it's oldish but i was able to get 32gb on my old 4770k system a few weeks ago for like 30 bux

[hollow matrix]

Although the image is a screenshot of my second monitor

It's a dell G15 laptop

[fast pagoda]

that's a broad category of thing i think isnt it

[hollow matrix]

I gotta say, I with the ubuntu installation logs were more verbose

[hollow matrix]

I don't think so?

[glad path]

tf is that

[fast pagoda]

it is, there's been several totally different laptops they call the g15 over the years, related but they seem to be separated by year released

[hollow matrix]

Well, I got mine last Christmas

[fast pagoda]

what's the cpu &

[fast pagoda]

that supports at least 64gb idk how many slots it has

[hollow matrix]

I'd rather not open up and see, I'm not good enough with electronics for that to end well

[fast pagoda]

adding thigns to a computer is like legos

i mean dont break your stuff

but it's worth to know how anyways

ig if you can live w/ it

[hollow matrix]

I'll prob do it at some point or get a desktop

[fast pagoda]

but 16gb is a hindrance level severe to most 2025 things tbh, that's what that 4770k had when i was resurrecting it and i was like surely that's not bad

and it worked but it was using swap a lot

and it used ddr3 which meant 32 g was 30 bux

but since that's ddr5 and laptop ram also it'll be like 100 bucks probaly

at the lowest

for 64 i mean

[hollow matrix]

Yeah

can confirm, the calculator running on wsl was fucked

[fast pagoda]

anything trying to rdp a stream to the win desktop is gonna be fairly rough

from wsl

it always has been w/ gui stuff although it used to not work at all so

[hollow matrix]

unfortunatly I can't get wsl to run gnome-session

[fast pagoda]

based wsl preventing you from having to use gnome

[hollow matrix]

What do you have against gnome

[fast pagoda]

nothing other than i cant get it to click for me

click as in, enjoy using it

[hollow matrix]

The gnome stuff looks the best imo

[fast pagoda]

i dont mind like adwaita

i do not like the ubuntu side bar layout because it reminds me that i dont really like ubuntu

i mean it's a fine thing to exist but every time i use it it's liike

damn

grim

and the alternative to that one is apple's layout

in gnome

which i also dislike

i do not want my computer to look or behave in any way similar to a phone

that's what gnome feels like to me

[hollow matrix]

That being said, my personal favorite gnome app is the text editor because it has syntax highlighting for really anything you would ever need

[fast pagoda]

i just use kate

which is like almost a vscode sort of unit but slightly less capablee

[hollow matrix]

If you want to use something more featured, then just use vscode?

[fast pagoda]

nah i dont use it for all the features tbh

it's just as fast as like notepad

so theyre more of a bonus

i dont like using vscode as a general text editor since it loves being mad about no project open

[hollow matrix]

It almost looks like a vscode fork?

[fast pagoda]

it almost does but it is not

it is on kde apps framework tho

geany is a similar thing but even more of a vscode competitor aimed thing

kde has kwrite as well

[hollow matrix]

btw, do you think fleet would be able to be a competitor when that comes out?

evilFlashbang

The theme only changes the editor, not the rest of the ui

Only default

[fast pagoda]

KDE uses GTK

err

other way round

gnome uses GTK

kde uses QT

so gnome theming will not apply to kde framework applications built on qt

unless you can configure it to theme qt in some form

which surely you can

i just have not had to go the other way

[hollow matrix]

Is there a kde settings app?

[fast pagoda]

the kwrite thing meant to be a notepad apparently has like completions so that's neat

yeah there is

[hollow matrix]

I'll just install kde-full

[fast pagoda]

brah

install kubuntu

llol

https://kubuntu.org

[hollow matrix]

Eh, can't be bothered to wait for another installation

[fast pagoda]

all the restrictions and old packages of ubuntu with the copium of kde so it doesnt feel like you're on ubuntu

that package list is like the freakin fresh install package list lmao

[hollow matrix]

What did Ubuntu do to hurt you

3GB

What do I press

[fast pagoda]

i just am NOT the target for ubuntu or any LTS anything, not that LTS is the only ubuntu, but i just do not care about apparmour, don't want snaps, don't want to run sudo apt install foo expecting foo from like june this year would be available and then the official package for whatever app is like 6 versions behind and a zombie of backported security patches

sddm is kde's display manager

so not that one

gdm is gnome

[hollow matrix]

ok

[fast pagoda]

gnome keyring conflicts in a bad way with kde's wallet in some way & it can cause you to be unable to login at all

btw

next time you boot that thing it's gonna default to probably gnome still if you put in gdm but if you need to get to a kde env for some reason there's a desktop swap thingy on the login screen to select it

usually what happens if i install multiple wm/de is that the system ends up unhappy at some point

maybe not immediately

[hollow matrix]

Unhappy in what way? not booting?

[fast pagoda]

for gnome + kde specifically it's keyring issues

welp

you shouldve hit sddm

my bad

apparently sddm works better with gnome than gdm does with kde

[hollow matrix]

The settings app is there but doesn't work yet

[fast pagoda]

sudo systemctl disable --now gdm && sudo systemctl enable --now sddm

if you want to swap it back i think

[hollow matrix]

ty

Why tf did I believe you

[fast pagoda]

it is supposed to do that i think

[hollow matrix]

It's just sitting here

[fast pagoda]

i mean i dont swap my sddm out often but it has to like restart the session completely

[hollow matrix]

It's not doing anything

[fast pagoda]

the windoww session prob didnt restart

[hollow matrix]

I'll figure it out in the morning gn

[fast pagoda]

having both kde and gnome together is a recipe for disaster in general so it's not particularly surpriising, i think it might come back up just fine on reboot tho

[hollow matrix]

ok

[fast pagoda]

gn gn i need to sleep so bad as well kek

[uneven pulsar]

is this a ricing channel?

[loud thunder]

yes

[olive sable]

Yes

Not specifically ricing but it does happen in occasion

[jagged turtle]

you shouldn't use vscode for a text editor lol

[uneven pulsar]

yeah i use gedit as a text editor

[nocturne olive]

I use Mint default text editor

Or nano if terminal usage

[fast pagoda]

i dont
unless it's markdown

[uneven pulsar]

Project update cancelled

Well I'm going to china

That why it cancelled

today 6:48 pm

[thorn chasm]

Since when VSCode became so disliked, this is the second time in last few days I see such opinion

It was considered a good editor 8 years ago when I was using it extensively

[proud ivy]

Good morning.

[worldly plank]

Try resizing the window? (yes, I am serious.)

[jagged turtle]

I help write the Neuro integration for VS Code, so I wouldn't say I dislike VS Code

in fact I really like it

but it should not be used as a "simple text editor"

[thorn chasm]

Ah I see

That's a good point

[uneven pulsar]

Yo neards

TALK SOMETIME LIKE MORE NERDS STUFF

bio science is reviving

[jagged turtle]

:MyHonestReaction: when a senator tries to get people to agree with them on anything tech related

[uneven pulsar]

Other 70% ?

Who

Google ?

[jagged turtle]

?

[uneven pulsar]

KEYVALUE = nun !

[ivory plinth]

classic 100 Hmmf i

[jagged turtle]

bro is this dude just schizoing

who has a bobby table

can we try and do some sql injections

[uneven pulsar]

I INTEGRATE AI IN PC

[jagged turtle]

cool bro not like everyone hates that anyways

[uneven pulsar]

OLLAMA IS NOT BEST FOR IN PC

LOCAL TRAIN MODEL

[jagged turtle]

I am not an AI model

but you probably are :)

[uneven pulsar]

{
"conversation": [
{
"role": "system",
"message": "System initialized. Ready to assist."
},
{
"role": "user",
"message": "Hello system, how are you?"
},
{
"role": "system",
"message": "I am functioning normally. How can I help you today?"
},
{
"role": "user",
"message": "Show me a sample JSON structure."
},
{
"role": "system",
"message": "Here is an example of a JSON file with user and system messages."
}
]
}

[jagged turtle]

!ping

[rigid snow]

why is system responding to the user

[obsidian mantle]

Wait are you ai @uneven pulsar

[rigid snow]

lol

[uneven pulsar]

LOL 🤣

[rigid snow]

should be "role": "assistant"

[rigid snow]

there is no fuckin way you're a real human

[uneven pulsar]

Who knows 🤔

[rigid snow]

[jagged turtle]

Does anyone have the schizo gif?

[rigid snow]

[jagged turtle]

I meant like as an actual gif

[rigid snow]

i know

icba

[jagged turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1137565307582566532.webp?size=96&animated=true

there we go

[rigid snow]

that works

[jagged turtle]

ty discord for giving me the copy link option

also

I forgot that neuro's copilot actions would be executed async rather than sync so me attempting to try-catch the RCE action handler function didn't affect that 💀

luckily now corrected but I realised I need to do some more patches

[uneven pulsar]

S#AMP WINDOWS

Some one call windows chan

[tight tinsel]

check pins (for whoever deleted their message)

[uneven pulsar]

Ai , hardware,maths, PHYSICS
What?

Which one

[tight tinsel]

??? no its ok its a public channel

if you want somewhere to begin you can check the pins on this channel for some links

[uneven pulsar]

@peak copper
Don't give up even if bugs and code error
But crash out

Motivational

[jagged turtle]

?

what happened?

[jagged turtle]

bro I cant even tell if this is too broken to be a clanker

[opal skiff]

What does this have to do with programming

[rigid snow]

verdal porgerammer

[jagged turtle]

We've been trying to reverse engineer if this/these "account(s)" are (a )bot(s)

[teal cipher]

verdal sounds like when parents are not good with coming up names so it's... vedal and verdal XD

[rigid snow]

vedal and v2dal

[jagged turtle]

artist spotted in programming channel

[short ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1376808276871745667/1NewMeow.gif

[jagged turtle]

wasnt verdal the pronunciation from truckersfm or smth

[rigid snow]

incredible

[jagged turtle]

very meta

[rigid snow]

🥈

[jagged turtle]

damn

[short ingot]

idk why I still have that tag lol. I've been here for quite a while, haven't I?

but yes, meow at me :3

[rigid snow]

exactly a week

[short ingot]

true

but when is it supposed to go away, into the abyss?

[rigid snow]

and the badge is 2 weeks i think

[short ingot]

oooh

[jagged turtle]

no it's a week

[teal cipher]

I think it's one of many misspellings yeah

[jagged turtle]

they've only been here for 5 days

[jagged turtle]

coldfish987 <-- misspelling

[rigid snow]

no i literally said 1 week

wait does it say oct 18 for you

[jagged turtle]

yes

[rigid snow]

interesting

[short ingot]

apparently I can't do basic math

[jagged turtle]

I'm in ✨ australia ✨

[rigid snow]

ye i know

[short ingot]

I had to use the calculator for 23-18

[tight tinsel]

Someone was asking for how to get into programming

[rigid snow]

i just opened this up

[uneven pulsar]

Im testing phone version of ai

[rigid snow]

wait

i might be stupid

[jagged turtle]

ah right

[rigid snow]

why did i look at 16

you're right it's only been 5 dyas

[short ingot]

dyas

[rigid snow]

l;adksjflk;jsdflkdfjgldfhgjs;

[sage crag]

rr

[edgy haven]

YAY I FINALLY GOT JETBRAINS STUDENT LICENSES

why does this take 15 years to install

[olive sable]

rr

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

[ivory plinth]

[uneven pulsar]

That is worst i thing
8gb is not enough
I need optimize ai
More

Phone ai was showing est 71 hours

Import time is work tho

It was (oss model )

MODEL_ID= "GPT_OSS_20b_cutdown_version"

Float32 to float8

[umbral thorn]

[uneven pulsar]

Goldy pc

I'm jealous

[uneven pulsar]

Get a better cpu to render

Or use 2 cpu motherboard for each part utilisation

[umbral thorn]

[uneven pulsar]

Nvme can save this pc

[opaque sigil]

lightest jvm program

[umbral thorn]

TRUE TRUE

[uneven pulsar]

pc approx like 7993$ to 25036$

[opaque sigil]

i still see 60gb free for it to use though

[uneven pulsar]

Intel this is ure chanse make 7.0ghz processor

My country finally announced that ( chip processor from 28nm )

INSTED of tmsc

Expect to go 2 nm in 2030

I invest 3000$ new startup

[umbral thorn]

quack already overclock to 7.6GHz

his i9 13900 eng sample

[umbral thorn]

we only spent $2600

[uneven pulsar]

It mean used !

[umbral thorn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vmTJLc

thank to @true hemlock he good at find deal

[uneven pulsar]

My eye i hate epilepsy

Light to dark mode

Already 5;40 pm

[umbral thorn]

paid for ram, USE WHOLE RAM

[opaque sigil]

[umbral thorn]

38 fps

[obsidian mantle]

3 gpus???

[umbral thorn]

[silent cloak]

been around for everr

[umbral thorn]

[silent cloak]

i remember when SLI was all the rage back then

now its all NVLink

[opaque sigil]

95C, cutting it kinda close there huh

[silent cloak]

na let it melt then buy a new one

[opaque sigil]

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cpu-hot-meat-yummy-gif-25343056

[opaque sigil]

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/china-releases-ubios-standard-to-replace-uefi-huawei-backed-bios-firmware-replacement-charges-chinas-domestic-computing-goals interesting

[rough bloom]

UBIOS's unique features over UEFI include increased support for chiplets and other heterogeneous computing use-cases, such as multi-CPU motherboards with mismatching CPUs, something UEFI struggles with or does not support
I wonder how/why UEFI struggles with this

[opaque sigil]

If I had to guess it's because it's just running native code iirc, you'd need some sort of vm

Or maybe there's a way to do it without idk

I'm not a firmware engineer

[trim valve]

this must have insane GC times lol

[rough bloom]

it does have the ABI defined only for specific platforms, yeah
I guess a VM would fix that

though I still don't really see how that's relevant to mismatching multi-CPU configurations
as long as at least one of them is supported it should be okay

[trim valve]

also I have no idea if it's the same for threadrippers, but don't modern amd CPUs try and target 95 when under load?

[opaque sigil]

They do but this is a zen 2 threadripper

They changed it with zen 4 iirc

[trim valve]

ah

[uneven pulsar]

Can u give information in short ?

[sage crag]

rrr

[sage crag]

rrrr

[olive sable]

rrrr

[sage crag]

ne just use better GC like zgc or shenandoah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[olive sable]

Im making space invaders in C# for school

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

I dont like monogame ngl

Basic 2D with built in functions to do everything is kinda boring

[uneven pulsar]

Good luck for ure project

[karmic birch]

I overclocked my FX 8320 to +1.5GHz and it consumed 200+ watts

[gray swan]

[uneven pulsar]

Yo

[gray swan]

yoo

[uneven pulsar]

How is your day going ?

[gray swan]

nc

cauze tomorrow is a holiday

[rough bloom]

zero cooldown

cheating

ban

[olive sable]

Its supposed to schoot on release of the spacebar

[obsidian mantle]

wtf

[olive sable]

So a check for if its pressed the previous fr1me, and 1 to check if it isnt pressed rn

[obsidian mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/gepard-flakpanzer-flackpanzer-gepard-aaa-air-defence-gif-7157216123218625565

[olive sable]

I firgot to check if its not pressed last frame tho

[obsidian mantle]

where are you making it?

[olive sable]

School

[obsidian mantle]

i mean what platform

[olive sable]

Monogame

[obsidian mantle]

[olive sable]

C#

Bwaa

Next semester we do unity

[obsidian mantle]

daamn thats a nice school

[uneven pulsar]

Our school reading old ####### books and no practical

U have source to learn new
I have yt ,gpt ,grok, discord, to learn new things and communication skills

[olive sable]

it is a college for game dev

I pay to go there

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[uneven pulsar]

That means I'm still youngest among u

[gritty dust]

u sure bout that

[uneven pulsar]

What ure age ?

[gritty dust]

16 as of 2 weeks ago

[uneven pulsar]

Sam is between
20 to 23

[olive sable]

im 18

[gritty dust]

youngster

[olive sable]

you're younger than me

[gritty dust]

Lol I know

[uneven pulsar]

Still I can drink achool

[olive sable]

i could drink alcohol from when i was 16

[gritty dust]

I gotta be 18

[olive sable]

L

come to belgium on vacation for a week

[gritty dust]

rudee

[gritty dust]

I was going to go to Belgium and Germany soon probably

[olive sable]

time to get wasted
(drink in moderation)

[nocturne olive]

Or alternatively, just don't drink

[uneven pulsar]

{
code: 'ERR_MODULE_NOT_FOUND'
}

Js need fix before

[olive sable]

a bit of drinking is fine, we need our balmers peak

it is actually based

based in science

[uneven pulsar]

C++ will help me in build backend of modul

IM TIRED BYE

[sage crag]

rrr

rrr

rrr

https://tenor.com/view/boom-anime-wow-amaze-surprise-gif-7257186

[nocturne olive]

Nah I think I'll stick to water

Water is very tasty

[olive sable]

if i were to drink water for the rest of my life, or to perish

i would not choose option 1

give me at least ice tea or something

[sage crag]

very sad

[olive sable]

i need my sugar

[sage crag]

you have food

[olive sable]

true

if i just put a fuckton of sugar on my pancakes i can make up for the lost sugar in my drinks

waffles with the holes fully filled with sugar

what else can you put sugar on?

cake?

[sage crag]

i think you may have sugar problems

also cake has plenty of sugar in it

by mass most cakes are 1/4 sugar

[olive sable]

nice

[olive sable]

i just dont eat enough

[nocturne olive]

Water is tasty though

[opaque sigil]

Have you considered eating more

[olive sable]

breakfast is a pain tho

id rather sleep an hour extra then to bother with all that

[olive sable]

no

[opaque sigil]

[nocturne olive]

Definitely way better than energy drinks or alcohol

[olive sable]

depends on the energy drink or alcohol

[opaque sigil]

White monsters are pretty yummy, same for their ice tea ones

probably not a good thing

[olive sable]

i have the feeling firefox lowered the fontsize just slightly

[olive stag]

Rose ultra monsters my beloved 🙏

Wish I could get a version without the caffeine/energy bits

[rigid snow]

i want coffee but it's 10pm, i just woke up and i have a headache

is good idea?

[obsidian mantle]

shower might help

[rigid snow]

ye i'm not asking about that

i want coffee

do i

[obsidian mantle]

well

if you are not planning to sleep

[rigid snow]

probably not anytime soon

[obsidian mantle]

i would say yes drink it

[olive sable]

Epson EH-TW7000 for 790 euro

i love how the page got translated fromn french to english, with "pick-up" becoming "Kidnapping"

[gritty dust]

No wayyyy haha

[olive sable]

i have the money, and its a good deal, but idk if i can jsutify it rn

idd also need a 15M hdmi cable

[final tinsel]

sandwich coding

[olive sable]

my firefox broke

[patent shard]

Nah, you want bigger

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059894037814976603/1418087754633445447/image.png?ex=68fba5e3&is=68fa5463&hm=67852b1b8973329a3800ee4b6ed80ce78c44bf6150a9a74684ef141ff61d2bb9&

[olive sable]

990ft

how much is that in normal units?

[patent shard]

~302 meters

[olive sable]

holy shit its 700 euros

[patent shard]

I think there's a coupon

[olive sable]

a coupon aint gonna help much unless its 99% off

[patent shard]

When I looked at it, it effectively made it 497 USD

[patent shard]

Ah, thanks

[olive sable]

im not spending as much on the cable as i am ont he projector itself

i might as well get a 1.5K projector then

turns out 15M hdmi 2.0 or 2.1 cables are 50 bucks

thats kinda shit

i could get a 10M one for 20 bucks, but then it ould have to run over the ceiling to the projector

[final tinsel]

long hdmi cables are either expensive or unreliable as you need repeaters and stuff over a certain distance

[olive sable]

the distance it needs to goif i want it along the wall so its not that visible is probably just more than 10m

2.5+2.5+4+1.5

ye that 10.5

[final tinsel]

@prime heron

[prime heron]

it's not gymbwaa

[final tinsel]

sorry, but i saw a bwaa

[patent shard]

Long HDMI 2.1 cables are expensive because they need to be fiber optic past 5 meters

[nocturne olive]

What's that?

[olive sable]

projector

[nocturne olive]

Oh how silly

Crazy that it's more pricy than a 3090

I'd just take the 3090

[olive sable]

i already have a 3090

[nocturne olive]

But you know what's better than a 3090?

[olive sable]

a 4K projector

[nocturne olive]

2x 3090

2x the batch size

2x the NeuroSynth

Though since batch size has nonlinear scaling a 48GB 4090D would be even more better

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

I would get if I had money

[olive sable]

i have the money, i just wont

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

Where do you suddenly have money from?

[olive sable]

disability benefits

[cosmic sphinx]

@pine rose
do image ocr thru dots.ocr or any other reputable ocr tool, let the ai do the rest with coding support

[nocturne olive]

Wha

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Whuhhhhhh

That's actually crazy

Guess I'll stay poor

[pine rose]

you're absolutly right. I thought the AI Models have the capability to do OCR correctly with their vision

[cosmic sphinx]

they do

but most of the time that ocr has shit quality

[hollow matrix]

@fast pagoda I decided to check what I could find, and Dell says that the the highest amount of ram the laptop will work with is 32GB, but I also found a thread where multiple people were reporting that 64GB worked with this: https://www.gskill.com/product/2/197/1540866339/F4-3200C22D-64GRS, 2x32GB because it has 2 slots apparently but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on it?

Installing kde on gnome worked but what the fuck is the

[rigid snow]

what is that session manager

designed in ms paint ahh

[hollow matrix]

it keeps saying the username or password is incorrect

[opaque sigil]

Me when I give nixos a hashed pw file to use but it turns out said pw file's contents are just different after months

[rigid snow]

baby's first ui framework

[amber fractal]

Reminds me of a certain rust rewrite of coreutils

Hope it gets fixed soon tho

[cosmic sphinx]

google might actually end up buying out anthropic sooner or later
this, atleast, shows promise of claude rate limits going up

[rigid snow]

i don't want google acquiring them

they don't deserve it

oh my god i hate anthropic so much

[opaque sigil]

I assume I just filled the file with the wrong hash, there are like 5 different algorithms that are supposedly supported

[dry charm]

wtf is a fubuntu

why is there a phone OSK?!

i have so many questions

WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE THE XP INSTALL SCREEN

gives me this vibe

wtf

[hollow matrix]

You can pick a name for your computer when you install Ubuntu

[dry charm]

Since when does the welcome text say the PC name and not the distro + release

what

[hollow matrix]

idk, never tried to install kde on ubuntu before

[dry charm]

That is KDE login screen?!

never seen that login screen. Is that themed or it is like that by default?

[hollow matrix]

It's a screen where you can choose how to login

[dry charm]

Aka the login screen yes

SDDM, forgot the name

[opaque sigil]

Looks like some weird sddm theme

[hollow matrix]

It give the options of Ubuntu, Ubuntu (xOrg), Ubuntu on xOrg, and I can't remember what the kde one was

[opaque sigil]

Plasma

[hollow matrix]

that

[dry charm]

Yeah ik

[opaque sigil]

Speaking of sddm

[hollow matrix]

There was also Ubuntu (wayland) and Ubuntu on wayland

[opaque sigil]

Latest nixos-unstable update breaks the kde sddm theme cause qt 6.10

[dry charm]

LOVELY

I couldn't update cause of cmake update and now cause of theme breaking

[opaque sigil]

I mean I'm sure it'll be fixed within a couple days at most

[dry charm]

I hope yeah

[rough bloom]

nixos-unstable users complaining about breakage

[dry charm]

nix maintainers are cracked

[opaque sigil]

nheko broke for me too cause qt 6.10 doesn't link against private stuff by default anymore that's fun

Hey I didn't complain

[dry charm]

I'm perfectly aware that all of these problems are my fault

[opaque sigil]

I'll probably switch to stable once 25.11 is out tbh

[dry charm]

yeah, all other apps that are version critical for me are now in flatpak anyway

[rough bloom]

yeye, you're fine, I'm aware
just messing around

[dry charm]

I mean to be fair, all we do is complain

[green iron]

does that even mean

[opaque sigil]

it means twitch hates you

(it's their generic catch-all error message)

lemme guess, firefox based?

yeah they sometimes just block those for no apparent reason

[hollow matrix]

They also block base chromium

[opaque sigil]

idk what exact integrity tests they run but there's a bunch of stuff they check and if any of those fail for whatever reason you get hit with that error

[opaque sigil]

they just let me in

[hollow matrix]

Oh, maybe what burpsuite uses is a fork then

[opaque sigil]

idk why i expected ungoogled-chromium to fail but they let me in there too

[hollow matrix]

brb

[green iron]

yea that is my fallback

[opaque sigil]

could be something as basic as a different user agent that gets flagged

[olive sable]

epson EH-TW6150 for 740 and it simulates 4K by pixelshifting, or i get an older flagship sony with native 4K for 1150

[rigid snow]

i got that on zen once, it's their privacy filter that was triggering it

just turn that off

privacy filters i mean

[sick owl]

Why do MSI make updating their monitors literal torture

I had to jam my head in under, disconnect HDMI, plug in a displayport cable I was only gonna use once, then feed in a TYPE B usb cable alongside it

Then undo the whole process after

Also the OSD messed up my settings and I put my neck out because they choose to hide the cables in the monitors asscrack for a e s t h e t i c instead of making them easily accessible

[hollow matrix]

Why does the insiders build take so much longer to update then the regular one?

[trim valve]

can you not like pivot your monitor at all

also what's wrong with type b

[opaque sigil]

it's not type a or c

[olive sable]

tybe b is fine

not good, not bad

only usaed in printers and monitors as far as i have seen

[hollow matrix]

Bad

[olive sable]

not reversible is the point no?

[hollow matrix]

That's fucking annoying

[olive sable]

and the last 2 point are both jsut size

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

on printers i can kind of understand it since you have plenty of space anyway, they're sturdier

[olive sable]

same thing with back of monitor imo

[opaque sigil]

on a monitor from 2024(?) though?

nah

[hollow matrix]

Mine is this

[olive sable]

monitors have a chunky piece on the back to attach the vesa mount. its not like usb-b changes much

especially if its parallell to the display

[opaque sigil]

actually

if it's for keeping people from using whatever port you designate for the upstream connection then I suppose it makes sense to use another connector

i guess that's probably the case here anyway

[amber fractal]

Wrong boi, not a power cable

[olive sable]

yes

[amber fractal]

To make sure everyone is on the same page