programming

[amber fractal]

It is a fun time, I'd most more frequent updates but nothing interesting to show to all

[obsidian mantle]

how do i optimise this token-wise

it feels like there should be a solution.. but i dont see it

[fast pagoda]

my fuking cloudflare worker project i JUST got my environment reconfigured for, got delayed on stuff i said i was gonna fix because of IRL weddings and such, and then my cpu exploded so i've been absent a bit from that (i am terrified to look at the thread and explain myself)

[amber fractal]

I see a
transposition_info.int3==X&&transposition_info.int1
but otherwise I got nothing

[olive sable]

https://blog.quanticdream.com/detroit-a-vulkan-in-the-engine/
oooh
i love blog posts about engine stuff

[fast pagoda]

found ur token problem right here officer (kek)

[obsidian mantle]

nono bwaa} appears only 3 times

if i macros it, i will spend 5 tokens for macros, and then use 2 more macros by its name

so i will get 7 tokens total and now its 6

[amber fractal]

no bwa macro today

[fast pagoda]

what if u alias transposition_info to like ti (idk if that will save tokens or not w/ toknt because ive been neglecting chess bot even harder than everything else)

i would think the compiler would alias this automagically at build time and it wouldnt actually save any tokens but idk if it would for just the count toknt does

and i suppose you could yank the logic for checking your transposition table entries into its own function but depending on the magnitude of this logic being used in the thing it may or may not save anything

[obsidian mantle]

entire transposition searcher

this final iff is bad

but idk what else to do

what happens if i do this

[fast pagoda]

i think the runtime will become angy mostly

[obsidian mantle]

hmm the bot works

i guess main doesnt need arguments after all

[fast pagoda]

surely nothing is being discarded

[opaque sigil]

You do in fact not need to declare main with parameters indeed

Huh why am I pink now

[fast pagoda]

you are now patrick star

[obsidian mantle]

pinku

ohh

i could

round all parenthesis to 2 or more

so i have places where i have (( or )) and its supposed to be like that
but i can replace normal ( with (( and close it on the other size

waits but i will gain nothing then

i can replace (( or )) only

[sage crag]

did you not know

you dont have to accept args

[sage crag]

good question

[fast pagoda]

does it see (( as 1 token or 2 (id assume 2 but) cuz i think you could save one(1) token at the last iff maybe

[opaque sigil]

[obsidian mantle]

(( is two tokens but i dont have many of them

[fast pagoda]

i have a few duplicates after restoring things oh my

[obsidian mantle]

macros for 2 token replacement is only viable for 6+ occurences i think
macros itself is 5
you replace 5x2 tokens with just 5
it becomes 0 gain

[fast pagoda]

yeah it needs reuse for sure i just cant see the rest of the code obv so if it was common i figured i'd mention

[olive sable]

???

[fast pagoda]

he was pink at the time

it was the style at the time

[olive sable]

ah

i went to eat for 15 min and i missed the pinkening

bwaa

[opaque sigil]

yeah idk my role got replaced with the osu one out of nowhere

[fast pagoda]

it is known

you are now the osu champion of #programming

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

damn

konii lost her crown

[uneven pulsar]

If this server has external applications support

[olive sable]

o7

[olive sable]

it doesnt

[amber fractal]

it doesn't

[olive sable]

intentional

externel apps cause security issues and stuff

[uneven pulsar]

Goodmorning everyone

12am

[olive sable]

goodmorning

altho its still 8pm here

[maiden geyser]

guten tag and guten nacht (1:31am)

[olive sable]

its not 1.31am in germany rn?

[maiden geyser]

shouldn't be

[olive sable]

ye it isnt

[uneven pulsar]

(20-10-2025 time : 12:03 am ) or 00:03

[maiden geyser]

so sad that owc has to be so late

[fast pagoda]

it's 1:37 pm y'all it's not morning

holy shit how is it 1:37 pm

[uneven pulsar]

12:09 am

Midnight

[maiden geyser]

clearly, it's after the ball

[olive sable]

we love when 2 people in 2 different time-zones arguing with each-other about what time it actually is

[maiden geyser]

may time.windows.com be our judge

[uneven pulsar]

SLEEPING TIME : I WILL STILL WAKE UP 5 AM

[obsidian mantle]

<t:1760899200>

see

its 11 pm

[fast pagoda]

tale as old as time (and it's exactly as old as I perceive it to be, you unfortunately are incorrect in your assumption)

[olive sable]

[maiden geyser]

[fast pagoda]

photo evidence says otherwise

[obsidian mantle]

is there some command for c++ to stop declaring variable types

like

"guess yourself man"

[uneven pulsar]

My phone wake since
402 hours

[opaque sigil]

auto but that doesn't help you

[obsidian mantle]

yeah i meant without auto at all

[opaque sigil]

then

[obsidian mantle]

what happens if i actually dont free the board

surely shiro can handle a little of memory leak

[uneven pulsar]

Bye 👋

[fast pagoda]

auto& we out heyuh

[fast pagoda]

enjoy a well earned rest after 402 hours

[opaque sigil]

wasn't there a new version that doesn't allocate a new array every time

or did that not make its way into the header

[obsidian mantle]

WHAT

am i using outdated api

does it have win_chess() function there

[fast pagoda]

auto& avoids alloc/copy

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/shiro-nya/2025-chess-bot-tournament/blob/34d25d6190c31d417562bdd85ab22a86e92986d1/src/c/chessapi.h#L96

[obsidian mantle]

dllexport means dont need to free?

[opaque sigil]

no that's just for making it available on windows

[fast pagoda]

structured bindings that's the name

[opaque sigil]

you should be able to allocate an array with enough moves and then just reuse that

218 is technically the absolute max number of legal moves you can have

[obsidian mantle]

i am getting new list of moves many many times

its not being reused most of the time

[fast pagoda]

decltype returns the type of a templated function which automatically makes the return type the exact same type as the expression in the function

[opaque sigil]

oh yeah that exists too

idk if i'd ever use it though

[fast pagoda]

you can do decltype(auto) lol

[obsidian mantle]

but delctype(x) is 4 tokens

[fast pagoda]

alias it to dt

even tho im p sure that saves nada

[obsidian mantle]

huh

[fast pagoda]

i should really get toknt set back up so i can test

[obsidian mantle]

all my type declarations are 1 token except structures

[olive sable]

step 1 is to install python

[opaque sigil]

i love how they added a new way to declare functions specifically for this yet nobody actually uses it

[maiden geyser]

not even considering JS anymore?

[obsidian mantle]

maybe i need to figure out a better way of getting -1 and 1 out of 0 and 1

[fast pagoda]

idk how often you'd be using this but you could do like a using dt = decltype(auto); and then just use dt everywhere if it's super prevalent ay? i think you'd need to use dt 3 times to overcome what i am assuming to be 8 tokens in the declaration

[obsidian mantle]

im using this formula now (1-x*2) where x is bool

[obsidian mantle]

maybe i dont get what it does

int int1
dt int1

whats the point

[opaque sigil]

i have bad news, this doesn't work btw

[fast pagoda]

see that's what i was hesitating over

[olive sable]

use js if you want, i just dont like js

[fast pagoda]

it will get expanded and be the same thing when processed

i have been so afk that i havent even had a chance to actually do my own chess entry so idk what actually is counting as a token saving

[opaque sigil]

all you're doing is hurt compile times

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

there's not really a better solution than doing * 2 - 1
this is how we do it in shaders even for our normalmaps

[olive sable]

oh, you inverted them

aslo works but then you're getting 1 and -1 out of 0 and 1

not -1 and 1

[obsidian mantle]

oh yeah i can do x*2-1

maybe it saves ! somewhere let me seee

wait no it doesnt

wait no it does

am i stupid
cant i replace this with just %2

hmm wait i cant

[fast pagoda]

even tho the alias thing doesnt save tokens, the decltype thing could if you have weird ass types that are super long that you need to reference such as some goofy type shit like

std::vector<std::pair<int,std::string>>::iterator foo() {
  return bwaa.begin();
}

gets turned into

decltype(auto) foo() {
  return bwaa.begin();
}

saves a lot in that particular instance but idk what you're dealing with, this is why i brought up decltype(auto) though

[obsidian mantle]

4/4%2 is 1
4%2 is 0

[fast pagoda]

can accomplish these things with auto too depending on the case tho

which means decltype becomes a waste in those

[nocturne olive]

We're getting a new NeuroSynth peak soon, I just got an insane transcript

[obsidian mantle]

only weird types i have in my bot

[olive sable]

when life throws you lemons, say "bro wtf stop throwing lemons at me" and proceed to throw them back

[obsidian mantle]

mhm my head

[fast pagoda]

evil neuro cover of styx's too much time on my hands would be dank (i am definitely currently listening to this song so i am bias) but i presume that's a new regular nwero not eliv unfortunately

[nocturne olive]

It got both

[fast pagoda]

[nocturne olive]

Not a model, a song

[fast pagoda]

ah

[rigid snow]

neuro-sama

wrong channel

[olive sable]

no

right channel

continue

neuro-sama

[rigid snow]

evil neuro

[olive sable]

evil neuro

[obsidian mantle]

1049 tokens

[sick owl]

Finally figured out what was causing the weird issue where my PC failed to POST when rebooting from windows

It was fast boot

[civic pike]

Lol

Oh windows. Never change.

[glad path]

when life throws lemons you tell your engineers to build a catapult that makes the lemons compustible and launches them flaming hot right back at life

as my good friend cave johnson says

[olive sable]

"my engineers" i wish i had those

[glad path]

same

smh

[obsidian mantle]

1034

[olive sable]

1035

[obsidian mantle]

1032

[olive sable]

1033

[obsidian mantle]

vscode forgot what a comment is 💀

so obfuscated he cant process it

[olive sable]

your linter is just broken

[obsidian mantle]

stupid sort needs [0] 😠

[opaque sigil]

[obsidian mantle]

1029

[amber fractal]

[obsidian mantle]

🥹 and hes still got it

im so afraid to break something while doing this

im doing backups way too rarely

1027

surely i'll find 3 tokens

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile I still don't have a valid Chess bot

Still too slow and too big

[obsidian mantle]

alright its done, i just had to remove couple of outdated macros which became useless
1023

[obsidian mantle]

you can do it if you want it

[nocturne olive]

There's a lot of work to be done to make it even remotely fast enough

[rigid snow]

i don’t even have an invalid one

[final tinsel]

i=0
out = ['!']*((9+8-7)*(6+5-4-3-2)+1)
outs = ''      
while i < (9+8-7)*(6+5-4-3-2*1):
    if i<1:
        out[i]=chr(72)
    elif i<2 or i/3==9%5:
        out[i]=chr(90+(17%10))
    elif i<4: 
        out[i]=chr(pow(10,2)+pow(4,2)-pow(2,2))
    elif i==pow(i-2,2) or i==ord(out[8])-ord(out[11])-1:
        out[i]=chr(int(0.5*(pow(2,2)+pow(3,2)-pow(4,2)+pow(5,2))*(pow(2,2)+pow(3,2)-pow(4,2)+pow(5,2))/2))
    elif i==5:    
        out[i]=chr(int(pow(8,2)*1/2))
        out[3*i-1]=out[i]
    elif i%2==0 and (1/i)>.16:
        out[i]=chr((1+2+3)*(5+i))
    elif i==1+2+3-4+5:
        out[i]=chr(pow(2,2)*pow((i-2),2)+(i-2))
        out[(1+1)*(i+1)+1]=out[i]
    elif i==ord(out[5])/4 or ord(out[5])/4==i-pow(ord(out[11]),(1/2)):
        if i==ord(out[5])/4:
            out[i]=chr(int(pow((6*i/4),2)-(i+2)*3))
        else:
            i=int(i-pow(ord(out[11]),1/2))
            out[i+10]=chr(int(pow((6*i/4),2)-(i+2)*3))
            i=int(i+pow(ord(out[11]),1/2))
    elif i==ord(out[0])/(i-1):
        out[i]=chr(int(pow(i,(1/2))+((pow(i,(3))-pow((i+i),(2))-(i*pow(ord(out[4]),(1/2))/(i))*(i+i)+((i)/i))/(2))+i))
    elif i==((pow(2,2)+pow(3,2)-pow(4,2)+pow(5,2))/(2))-((2)/(2)):
        out[i]=chr(ord(out[8])-i)
        out[int((ord(out[6])/pow(ord(out[4]),.5))+i)]=out[i]
    elif i==ord(out[9])-ord(out[7]):
        out[i]=chr(pow((1+2),(3))+4*5*6-7*8+9)
    elif i==ord(out[3])-ord(out[2-1]):
        out[i]=chr(int((-i+((1337)/(420))*60+9)-ord(out[10])+2))
    elif i>18:
        out[i]=chr(-(ord(out[7])-ord(out[16]))+ord(out[2]))
    i+=1
i=0
while i < 3+1*4+1+5+9-2+6-5:
    outs=outs+out[i]
    i+=1
print(outs)

lil puzzle for you guys- can you figure out what this outputs without running it?

[olive sable]

i could try, but i also could not

[final tinsel]

-# i spent far too long on this meme thing

[obsidian mantle]

That is NOT token efficient

[olive sable]

and the 2nd option seems better for my time

[obsidian mantle]

Does it print nothing

Oh wait no

[olive sable]

that last while does some shit

21 times or so

idk

[obsidian mantle]

How are we going to figure it out

[olive sable]

you'd have to manually simplify it

or just run the code

[obsidian mantle]

9 characters

I dont understand 2nd line

[final tinsel]

hint: the last while loop is just a formatting thing

[obsidian mantle]

21 exclamation marks?

[final tinsel]

oh i messed it up 1 sec

i made a small change before sending

and messed it up

frick

second line should be

out = ['!']*((9+8-7)*(6+5-4-3-2)+1)

[obsidian mantle]

What does it do

[final tinsel]

fixed it in the main block too

[obsidian mantle]

Is it like python

[final tinsel]

yes

this is python

[obsidian mantle]

[]*x = [x]

Or rather [][][][][] x times

Chr gives ascii char?

[final tinsel]

['!']*21 = ['!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!','!']

[obsidian mantle]

So to do it i have to know all ascii chars

[final tinsel]

just dont run it, you can google an ascii table

[obsidian mantle]

I'll pass for now im in bed

[final tinsel]

lol

[obsidian mantle]

What does pow do

Power?

[final tinsel]

power

[obsidian mantle]

not related but

[final tinsel]

imagine not having an ascii table saved on your phone tho... SMH my head

[final tinsel]

mhm?

[obsidian mantle]

Does it accept float power

[final tinsel]

methinks

[obsidian mantle]

Can i get sqrt with 0.5 power or so

[final tinsel]

yes

[obsidian mantle]

Cool

[obsidian mantle]

I mean, its too long for this screen maybe tomorrow

What the hell is ord

[final tinsel]

chr is int -> char
ord is vice versa

spoiler tag this for backreaders

but yes

[rigid snow]

what in the schizo

did i miss something

[final tinsel]

poozle

[rigid snow]

oh i see

[olive sable]

3D modeling industry is being held up by guys with weird obsessions

we love the fucking "patio umbrella blueprint"

[rough rover]

Man, these are a lot of operations...

if only I had some type of machine that could perform all of these computations at once

Some type of... computer...

[final tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[trim valve]

just wait until you hear about cad

you can become someone who gets paid to make models of your weird obsessions

[olive sable]

being paid is the goal of every job

thats not special

[final tinsel]

i get paid to sit and watch neuro streams (and occasionally check off assignments and help ppl with cad) on fridays! (CAD lab assistant)

[olive sable]

i get paid to sit

nah wait

i get paid.

[trim valve]

I keep convincing myself I'm gonna learn cad properly then forgetting to

surely this time

[olive sable]

does blender count as cad?

cuz it is cad, but when i hear people use the term cad they're doing autodesk or smthng

fusion 360

One Frame Man

[amber fractal]

I can only think about how I use an umbrella which is to undo the latch and pull it down until the wind pressure moves it to the other latch

[olive sable]

i havent used an umbrella in 10 years if not more

we jsut kinda deal with the rain

[trim valve]

usually cad implies non destructive editing and parameters, among other things

blender is much more of an art tool

[olive sable]

non destructive editing and parameters

Similarly, the majority of 3D design tools that revolve around meshes/triangles are destructive or only allow very specific subsets of their functionality to be modeled non-destructively (e.g. Blender). A notable exception to this is many of the newer parametric design tools in CAD such as Grasshopper and Fusion360. In such tools, everything is defined in terms of dimensions and constraints — e.g. this angle is 30 degrees, these lines are parallel — and you can go back at any point to alter those previous dimensions, which then recalculates the entire 3D object.

[final tinsel]

i sent it in a few other servers im in's programming channels and ive just realized imma get so many HBD shiro screenshots now

also, line 36 should be out[i]=chr(int((-i+((1337)/(420))*60+9)-ord(out[10])+2))

i fixed it in the block but for those who have already copied

[peak ingot]

What the....

[final tinsel]

yes?

[peak ingot]

I've done some bad stuff with Python

But I don't like that

[final tinsel]

i mean it is intentionally made as difficult to comprehend as possible

[peak ingot]

from hehe import *; aW5wdXRudW1iZXI = aW50(aW5wdXQ(VA+eQ+cA+ZQ+" "+YQ+" "+bg+dQ+bQ+Yg+ZQ+cg+":"+" ")); b3RoZXJtb2RpZmVy = Y21GdVpHOXQucmFuaW50(0x0, aW5wdXRudW1iZXI);aW5wdXRudW1iZXI -= b3RoZXJtb2RpZmVybW9kaWZlcjE = Y21GdVpHOXQucmFuaW50(0x1/MTA, 0x67/MTA);cHJpbnQ(KA+c3Ry(aW5wdXRudW1iZXI/bW9kaWZlcjE)+Kg+c3Ry(bW9kaWZlcjE)+KQ+Kw+c3Ry(b3RoZXJtb2RpZmVy));

[final tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-gif-18457460

what

is

that

[peak ingot]

Python

Completely valid python

[final tinsel]

oh wait its just weird variable names

[peak ingot]

Yes

Everything is just base64 encoded

[final tinsel]

i straight up spent almost 3h making the meme program above. abt 30m i almost stopped but got sunk cost fallacied

[uneven pulsar]

I'm back

Total uptime

Otg has failed an and I need ANOTHER OTG again BUT WHY KEYBOARD IS USELESS WITHOUT OTG IN PHONE

[glad path]

tf is hehe

[peak ingot]

python file where the functions are defined

[amber fractal]

Should have just done it in one file

[peak ingot]

well then it would be much more understandable

[amber fractal]

Are you sure about that?

[peak ingot]

yes

[amber fractal]

Alrighty, let me pull up a python rq

There are good ways to make this worse

[peak ingot]

i mean more understandable in my current system of just changing all the fuctions to random text, there is ofc better ways to mask what a script does

[amber fractal]

Trust

[uneven pulsar]

I need 7000 cpu core 4.ghz units all same
In one chip

[amber fractal]

Shame as GPU is just nog independant enough sometimes

[uneven pulsar]

Let me ask a question?

[fast pagoda]

heh heh

[uneven pulsar]

How much knowledge about cpu and quantum machine

[amber fractal]

Do you even have a pet for these discounts?

[fast pagoda]

i do have a cat aand usually have 2

[amber fractal]

Alright one base64 in the terminal later now lets begin the actual fun

[fast pagoda]

i know what a quantum computer is and have what i would call a shaky understanding of how they function, mainly cuz qubits r cool
basically, not at all outside of general awareness of their existence
aka useless

[amber fractal]

Alright, sanity check works, now lets begin the cursed part of this

I should make this setup slightly more reproducable actually

[opaque sigil]

The last part is a pretty good explanation of quantum computers

[amber fractal]

bwaa and awa have been defined, of course each in only one line

because not even the generation code is safe

[twilit lava]

You know how functions have a fixed point? where for some specific value f (x) = x

like let add(x) = x + x; let fixed = (add(0)) == 0;

there are fixed points in hashes

where a hash routes to it's own value

Iterate function application of hashing, the results of hashes path until they loop, or they will hit a fixed point and terminate.

so like hash(3) = sha1(sha1(sha1(seed)))

so you keep iterating through repeated function application until you get a loop or a fixed point

[amber fractal]

Alrighty done

[twilit lava]

then you draw the graph such that every value is represented only once

for all the values you have explored

[amber fractal]

from base64 import b64decode as bwaadow

exec(bwaadow("CmZyb20gcmFuZG9tIGltcG9ydCByYW5kaW50CgojIGNvaW5fZmxpcApkZWYgWTI5cGJsOW1iR2x3KCk6IHJldHVybiByYW5kaW50KDAsMSkKCiNDT05TVDEKUTA5T1UxUXggPSAiU2FtVmlNaWxlIgoKI3NwZWFrYQpkZWYgYzNCbFlXdGgoY2hhdHRlciwgZmxpcCk6IHByaW50KGYiIiJ7Y2hhdHRlcn0gZnsiaXMgZWVwaW5nIiBpZiBmbGlwIGVsc2UgImlzIG5vdCBlZXBpbmcifSIiIikKCg=="), globals(), (captured := {}))
for k,v in captured.items(): locals()[k] = v

ZG90aGU1MDUw = Y29pbl9mbGlw()
c3BlYWth(Q09OU1Qx, ZG90aGU1MDUw)

-# could have done base64 encoding not hardcoded but what is the fun in that?

[twilit lava]

sha1(seed) -> sha1(sha1(seed))
sha1(sha1(seed)) -> sha1(sha1(sha1(seed)))
and so on

[amber fractal]

Not a virus, just a 50/50 between print messages

[twilit lava]

coin_flip

def Y29pbl9mbGlw(): return randint(0,1)

#CONST1
Q09OU1Qx = "SamViMile"

#speaka
def c3BlYWth(chatter, flip): print(f"""{chatter} f{"is eeping" if flip else "is not eeping"}""")

eeping

[amber fractal]

Yep, simple but at least in one file

[peak ingot]

thats exactly what i was trying to avoid with my multifile system

[amber fractal]

Yeah it is easy to reverse, nothing that can be done there. If I were to send code in a channel, I'd at least want it to be reversible.

Not that it is the only method I could think of, just the one I felt like doing

[fast pagoda]

by golly you're right
i am ironmaneinstein (who was decently uneasy about quantum spookiness for his part)

[amber fractal]

I'll do that another time, I don't want to spend all night on this tonight

[fast pagoda]

i gave this to 3 claudes (opus/sonnet/haiku) to watch them argue about it like battledroids because it's funny to me and i do not value my own time.

it pissed off 4.1 opus because it couldn't figure out i=12 or i=13 and then started roasting sonnet which DID get it through handwaving - it figured out the answer without needing to do the full step-through process due to llm spooky big number fuzzy intuition from training data or luck or some combo w/e

it got so bothered though

[final tinsel]

LOL

[final tinsel]

Did you give it the one with correct line 36 or the broken one? Either way you should try giving it the opposite and see its response

[final tinsel]

^

Before it was out[i]=chr(int((60+9*((1337)/(420))*60+9)-i-ord(out[10])+2))

[fast pagoda]

the one it got was: out[i]=chr(int((-i+((1337)/(420))*60+9)-ord(out[10])+2))

[final tinsel]

Ok u had the right one

[fast pagoda]

yeah it ran fine in my ide i checked to be sure because it made me doubt the first time wasnt a fluke or something, it was NOT figuring 12 or 13 out

[final tinsel]

Since triple parens are illegal I originally moved the 60+9 to the left side forgetting that would make it be 9x instead of 60x

[final tinsel]

Oof lol

I spent way too long on that program

[fast pagoda]

both opus 4.1 and haiku 4.5 got tripped up, on different spots

sonnet just YOLO'd its way through and figured out the result through gigabrain big numbers high parameters woo woo and then pretended to explain it

[final tinsel]

Also when I initially sent it it got automodded (cuz the triple parens) but also I didn’t have the 20 and 21 obfuscated so Shiro figured it out

[final tinsel]

lol

[final tinsel]

Try giving it the version with wrong line 36 and ask it to find the error

New chat prob cuz otherwise it’d just look at history

[fast pagoda]

haiku got thru 12/13 and then got stuck thinking i=15 evaluated to an out of bounds array position of 21

boutta do this now for science

[final tinsel]

Oh everything after i=14 got funky when programming

[final tinsel]

🏛️

[amber fractal]

classic

[fast pagoda]

[final tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[fast pagoda]

loooool

opus 4.1 thinks the true intention was a much more powerful, heartfelt message indeed

[final tinsel]

NAHHHHHH

[fast pagoda]

Happy Birthday Ohio!

[final tinsel]

I still don’t know why it returns ƪ ngl

[fast pagoda]

sonnet thinks it's "Happy Birthday yo!"

[final tinsel]

YO

Wait it’s not getting the second r? Wut lol

[fast pagoda]

they fall apart and then nothing makes sense

[final tinsel]

Ngl it’s impressive we’ve made computers that are terrible at computing

[fast pagoda]

all 3 of them actually got stopped on i=15 this time before the error at line 36 even happens lmao

[final tinsel]

AI: Artificial Idiots

15 was a pain to program tbf

[fast pagoda]

haiku went back to the 'le 21stdhth array slot' copium

[final tinsel]

Here’s the key btw

The *1 is confusing it so much lol

I think it doesn’t know indices start at 0

[fast pagoda]

i posed this question to glm 4.6 btw

about 7-8 mins ago

it is still thinking

on the right track tho it looks like

[final tinsel]

Holy

Long think

[fast pagoda]

the environmental impact from posing this cipher puzzle to computers that are too dumb to compute

is astounding

it's so over

[final tinsel]

Oof yea

SMH computers failing to compute

[fast pagoda]

your line 15 killed glm4.5

i=15 i mean

[final tinsel]

Holy

[fast pagoda]

glm4.5v stopped at 15 and declared the rest to be bullshit and the answer is just "happy birthday!"

[final tinsel]

Give to the highest ChatGPT model you have access to, i wanna see if i just discovered a new AI poison

Ok imma disappear for a min or two cuz i need to restart my iPad cuz it doesn’t want to charge

[fast pagoda]

you've currently ruined z.ai's entire yearly compute budget i'm pretty sure

4.6 has been thinking about it for 13 minutes

[final tinsel]

-1 lake :LULE:

[fast pagoda]

extinction of koalas is unfortunately now guaranteed

[final tinsel]

Have you shot it at ChatGPT yet? I don’t even remember what the newest model is nowadays

[fast pagoda]

90,500 token response w/ openai's tokenizer so off by likely some amount

[final tinsel]

Holy

[fast pagoda]

yeah i have he's thonkin

[final tinsel]

I just hope these data centers are running on renewable energy

Otherwise this is going to spike my carbon footprint

[fast pagoda]

they are unironically still

[final tinsel]

What’s the time at?

[fast pagoda]

i gave one gpt5 w/pro reasoning with the same prompt as the caludes/glm got with the bug
one gpt5 w/ pro reasoning a slightly "enhanced" prompt with a little more guidance
and then a gpt4.5 got the aforementioned enhanced oone as well so it's 3 of them rn grinding

[final tinsel]

Holy

Ngl we’ve prob used like an average house worth of electricity with these prompts by now

How long has 4.6 been running now?

[fast pagoda]

he died at 90k tokens without giving an answer i forgot to mention

poor fool

[final tinsel]

NOOOO

How long was he running when he fell?

[fast pagoda]

14 minutes

[swift crane]

is chatgpt just guessing next letters

[fast pagoda]

the first gpt5 finished finally

it took 9m10s of thinking

[swift crane]

i mean when you dont say prompt that are "specific" it will start hallucation

[fast pagoda]

this one actually is giving the appearance of having mostly figured it out

[final tinsel]

Send output

[swift crane]

can neuro sama ai used in roblox studio gng

[ivory plinth]

Whar

[fast pagoda]

it doesnt know shiro though so it guessed that the solution was meant to by "Happy Birthday[,] Hiro!" it thought the S was meant for a comma after birthday

[final tinsel]

I mean, closest we’ve got so far

[fast pagoda]

they have all recommended as a fix to ditch all this crazy math and just set the values as constants kek

[swift crane]

i meant "can neuro sama control roblox character"

[fast pagoda]

she's generally not fast enough to do realtime games on her own

stuff like minecraft there's a model helping her that's handling the movement part

she kinda directs her char like a meat titan

[final tinsel]

i wonder why that equation specifically is so difficult for them to handle

[swift crane]

yeah ig cus realtime game has action+event that happened every fps

[fast pagoda]

4.5 is just killing it, ultra insight into the pure raw math has arrived:

clearly it was meant to be

[final tinsel]

OOF

[fast pagoda]

Happ< Birth!!! !!i!!((

yeah that's probably it

one of them is still workin on it and it's clear theyve reached desperate measures as they appear to be googling basic equations

[final tinsel]

NAHHHHH

[swift crane]

how does that related to python

[fast pagoda]

this one said fuck your puzzle it's easy

[swift crane]

oh okay make sense

[fast pagoda]

bruh really said easy flex

[final tinsel]

WAIT HOLY

[fast pagoda]

the code theyre trying to figure out is python

[final tinsel]

5 Pro is just too powerful

[fast pagoda]

the models are attempting to manually calculate this step by step without being allowed to just run it in a terminal: #programming message

the sad thing about 5 pro is that the reasoning trace is hidden completely

i can't see how it got there

[final tinsel]

Dang…

[fast pagoda]

this is all i got:

easy flex

Output: Happy Birthday Shiro!

how I got there. no runtime. just eyeballing the math

array size = (10)*(2)+1 = 21 slots → all '!' to start, so last char stays !

loop runs i = 0..19, fills spots via those goofy conditions

quick fill order:

i=0 → chr(72) → H

i=1 or i/3==4 → a (also hits i=12)

i=2,3 → p, p

i=4 with that 22²/4 thing → y

i=5 → space, and mirrors to i=14 → space

i=6 → (1+2+3)*(5+6)=66 → B

i=7 → i and copy to i=17 → i

i=8 via the 6i/4 bit → r

i=9 the big sqrt/power mess simplifies to 116 → t

i=10 uses ord(out[8]) - i = 114 - 10 → h, also sets i=16 → h

i=11 from ord(out[9]) - ord(out[7]) path → 100 → d

i=12 (from that i/3==4) → a

i=13 from ord(out[8]) - ord(out[11]) - 1 → y

i=15 from the 1337/420 gag → 83 → S

i=18 hits the sqrt branch (temporary i=8 calc) → r

i=19 final formula → 111 → o

concat all 0..20:
H a p p y _ B i r t h d a y _ S h i r o !

done.

i deserve a neurochatting for that one

[final tinsel]

That’s actually basically the process i used when making it LOL

[fast pagoda]

making them talk like this makes their responses align better with a "person" to me

seems to also follow w/ logic (when they actually have sound logic by accident)

[final tinsel]

Lol

[swift crane]

try letting chatgpt solve codeforces problem

H. Beautiful Problem
time limit per test2 seconds
memory limit per test256 megabytes
For an array a
of length n
and three integers x
, l
, and r
（1≤l≤r≤n
), define:

f(a,x,l,r)={0,1,ifif(x−minrj=l(aj))⋅(x−maxrj=l(aj)))<0(x−minrj=l(aj))⋅(x−maxrj=l(aj)))≥0

You are given an array a
of length n
(1≤ai≤n
), and m
intervals [li,ri]
(1≤li≤ri≤n
).

For each x=1,2,…,n
, answer the following question independently:

Does there exist a rearrangement a′
of a
, such that for all 1≤i≤m
, f(a′,x,li,ri)=1
?
Input
The first line contains a single integer t
(1≤t≤2⋅104
) — the number of test cases. Description of each testcase follows.

The first line contains two integers n
and m
(2≤n≤2000
, 1≤m≤2000
).

The next line contains n
space-separated integers a1,a2,⋯,an
(1≤ai≤n
).

The next m
lines each contain two space-separated integers li,ri
(1≤li≤ri≤n
), each denoting an interval.

It is guaranteed that the sum of n2
and the sum of m2
over all test cases does not exceed 4⋅106
, respectively.

Output
For each test case, output a binary string s
. For x=1,2,…,n
, sx=1
only if there exists a rearrangement a′
of a
, such that for all 1≤i≤m
, f(a′,x,li,ri)=1
. Otherwise, sx=0
.

Example
InputCopy
4
4 2
1 1 3 4
1 2
2 4
3 2
1 1 3
1 2
2 3
3 1
1 1 1
1 3
9 3
4 5 9 1 1 1 2 2 3
1 6
3 7
7 9
OutputCopy
1011
101
111
100100001
Note
In the first test case,

For x=1
, one valid rearrangement is a′=[1,1,3,4]
.
For x=2
, there is no rearrangement a′
of a
satisfying f(a′,2,1,2)=f(a′,2,2,4)=1
.
For x=3
, the only valid rearrangement is a′=[4,3,1,1]
.
For x=4
, one valid rearrangement is a′=[1,1,3,4]
.

[fast pagoda]

i thought codeforces was mostly defeated in the llm space at this point

[swift crane]

yk only 38 ppl out of this world solve this

[final tinsel]

Wait wait wait hold up i just realized did you give it a screenshot not the text itself

[fast pagoda]

that's not a screenshot

[final tinsel]

Cuz the box makes it look like it

[fast pagoda]

it just highlights it with a white background for some reason

[swift crane]

will chatgpt get past this question

[fast pagoda]

yeah idk why it does that lmao

[final tinsel]

Oh it’s just formatted to look like text message style

[fast pagoda]

yeah idk but it's def text

[final tinsel]

Weird lol

SUPER TURBO BONUS POINTS

[fast pagoda]

ill ask the oracle

yeah welcome to optimized prompting

[swift crane]

i cant test if it fail or pass

[fast pagoda]

soemthing of a prompt engineer myself or whatever the current most money generating thing to call it is

[swift crane]

there alot of testcases in codeforces

also the code must not exceeded time limit

and memory limits

that very hard

time limit per test2 seconds
memory limit per test256 megabytes

[fast pagoda]

ok so:
can't actually run to see pass/fail
2min runtime limit overall
2second runtime limit per individual test case
256mb memory constraint

is that everything

[swift crane]

yeah

you must not have any testcases "fail", codeforces it's a comptitveve programming platform for nerd

the feeling is like, you're coding a working projects, and someone walk in and ask "can you inverse binary tree"

first time hearing that, just humbled you, cus you dont know what to do, there a difference between programmer who does projects and programmer who solves problems

[glad path]

thoughts on binary space partitioning trees?

[swift crane]

idk about that

[glad path]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_space_partitioning

[swift crane]

i do not know what does this mean at all

[glad path]

took me half a week to grasp it, don't worry

i don't exactly remember how it works

but it's like really complicated

and also quite cool

[swift crane]

you cant memorizes everything, so wikipeda exist

basically same as math formula, there alot on google

with specfic uses

[glad path]

for reference I spent two weeks trying to write doom for a graphing calculator

with nothing but the ability to fill polygons and draw pixels

and a few graphics buffers

I got as far as placing walls which would render in 3d

[fast pagoda]

blud that was googling all math came back with an absolutely groundbreaking answer

[glad path]

and texture mapping

[swift crane]

you gonna make your game engine

[fast pagoda]

i feel like this mf was taking the piss with this answer

[glad path]

except some walls got inverted and I still have no fucking clue why

[swift crane]

it's a nightmare when it's all just numbers and coord and positions, vec3 placing a block manaully

[final tinsel]

Wait W A T

[fast pagoda]

if i ever meet sam altman in person he's going to be shocked to find a have this pdf printed out and ready for him to sign immediately

oops name got randomized

AGI is here

[final tinsel]

-9???

[fast pagoda]

7 do be < 8

GOOD point gpt5

[final tinsel]

WHERE DID IT GET -9 ANYWAY

[fast pagoda]

this is just 9 pages of pure chaos and has almost nothing to do with the question posed LOOOOLLLL

[final tinsel]

Ikr

[fast pagoda]

22 minutes straight of

and just drops the stinkiest turd of an answer

technology is amazing

[final tinsel]

Midwestern AI

[fast pagoda]

it gets that from me unironically

[final tinsel]

it’s impressive that humanity has managed to make computers that suck at computing

[fast pagoda]

we'll see, brochacho is still PONDERING that codeforces question rn

[final tinsel]

I wish this included the prompt

[glad path]

3 = 3.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000213059871049587934875082734765029347580263408756252345234598273450982734807562034875
apparently

[final tinsel]

floating point errors

[fast pagoda]

i should have realized this at the time but he decided to go into research mode for this report & hallucination fiasco

https://chatgpt.com/share/68f5bb7b-164c-8006-a2d7-c2221e2e2e9f here's the chat

[final tinsel]

ChatGPT is shy and doesn’t want people to see its mistakes

Ope now it loaded

[fast pagoda]

i had to say this because this lazy mf just stopped after this message "ill drop the output"

[final tinsel]

lol

[fast pagoda]

i have to share the output too i guess

of the "tool" which is just the PDF thing

https://chatgpt.com/s/dr_68f5bc50af908191b6286b10e6b09794

[final tinsel]

Ah

[fast pagoda]

brother how are you not maybe taking a step back at this point and saying huh that seems uh wrong (i know it can't and doesnt think so that's why but it's so funny to look at to me)

[glad path]

+1 birthday wish

[fast pagoda]

is that a continuation of the conversation?

[final tinsel]

Yea

[fast pagoda]

dang it seems like my style prompts and memories dont carry over which makes sense for several reasons but damn he's back to talking like an asshole

[final tinsel]

I’m no prompt engineer so idk how to effectively get it to “reflect” or anything but that’s what I’d do if I could

[fast pagoda]

ill see what he has to say for himself

well he's still goin and has opted to hid e the detailed thinking about halfway through so it must be devastating

[fast pagoda]

btw i restarted him

he's chuggin

it appears that the one that evaluates in the thousands, it has opted to incrementally increase the fraction over and over by one(1) each time so it's gonna be a while

off by a galaxy

and now I see exactly why my earlier “hello/world” fantasy was dead wrong at basically every branch. poor fellow is taking it hard

[final tinsel]

At least it admitted it was wrong

[fast pagoda]

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68f5c1af0c708191867d97badd5c1d63 the re-eval

[final tinsel]

Content error

Lemme try pasting the link into browser instead of just clicking it and getting sent to the app

Yep browser paste worked

[fast pagoda]

https://chatgpt.com/share/68f5bb7b-164c-8006-a2d7-c2221e2e2e9f the full convo idk if the link updated

i think there's a solid 30 seconds where it wont load

[final tinsel]

We have successfully done too much for the ChatGPT app

[fast pagoda]

personally i enjoy that it shortened the rubric

step
what I did
correct
why wrong
principle
adjustment

i have done this in the past if i messed something up and had to write things about it

shorten the rubric or whatever it is explaining what i did wrong as much as i can lmao

[final tinsel]

Read that as extra wife

[fast pagoda]

can't forget about the 2nd wife

[final tinsel]

Ngl great strategy

[fast pagoda]

andy is not finding this very exciting whatsoever

ill take his reaction as my cue to actually do something slightly productive so i'll bbl

[final tinsel]

Fair fair. I’m literally in bed at this point so gnight and good luck with being productive

[amber fractal]

Aww kitty!!!!

[final tinsel]

Also if you have time could you get that reflection bit as a PDF? I really liked that bit

[amber fractal]

He's like me fr fr

[fast pagoda]

this is eerily similar to opening my phone every time i step away from my desk at work for over 30 seconds

[fast pagoda]

yea i gotta wait for the depressionbot9000 to put it together though since it wasnt giving a pdf export option so give it like 45 minutes to 5 business days

ive personally set back at least one yacht for altman this evening

nice

[final tinsel]

Depressionbot9000… dang man that name makes me feel bad for him

[fast pagoda]

at least it doesnt start saying it's about to go jump off a building like gemini does if it gets frustrated

[final tinsel]

._.

[fast pagoda]

and since gemini is pretty ass at tool calling in comparison to its actual logic capabilities, it threatens that ALL THE TIME

[glad path]

once i tried to make chatgpt write something using pyobjc and it got ccaught in an infinite cycle of debugging

[final tinsel]

Real

[fast pagoda]

it couldn't quite figure out how to spontaneously get the system to generate a PDF like it does for canvas items so it went ahead and pulled some shitty python lib called reportlab and custom generated this scuffed pdf just for you

[final tinsel]

LOL

[fast pagoda]

beautiful:

[final tinsel]

Holy scuff

[fast pagoda]

another datacenter falls to the follow up "fix ur pdf brah" request

@final tinsel alright there - no dinner till the pdf at LEAST figured out what word wrap is so he touched it up

80% less scuff

[final tinsel]

It’d be great if it acknowledged the existence of markdown but I’ll take it

[fast pagoda]

brotha

why you no say anything

it's default md

they pretty much shit out MD inherently

[final tinsel]

Aight who at apple decided that iPads can’t natively view markdown

[fast pagoda]

average apple decision

same people that decided ios cannot into webm

[final tinsel]

The complete GPT-5 vs My Crappy Program saga:

i=0
out = ['!']*((9+8-7)*(6+5-4-3-2)+1)
outs = ''      
while i < (9+8-7)*(6+5-4-3-2*1):
    if i<1:
        out[i]=chr(72)
    elif i<2 or i/3==9%5:
        out[i]=chr(90+(17%10))
    elif i<4: 
        out[i]=chr(pow(10,2)+pow(4,2)-pow(2,2))
    elif i==pow(i-2,2) or i==ord(out[8])-ord(out[11])-1:
        out[i]=chr(int(0.5*(pow(2,2)+pow(3,2)-pow(4,2)+pow(5,2))*(pow(2,2)+pow(3,2)-pow(4,2)+pow(5,2))/2))
    elif i==5:    
        out[i]=chr(int(pow(8,2)*1/2))
        out[3*i-1]=out[i]
    elif i%2==0 and (1/i)>.16:
        out[i]=chr((1+2+3)*(5+i))
    elif i==1+2+3-4+5:
        out[i]=chr(pow(2,2)*pow((i-2),2)+(i-2))
        out[(1+1)*(i+1)+1]=out[i]
    elif i==ord(out[5])/4 or ord(out[5])/4==i-pow(ord(out[11]),(1/2)):
        if i==ord(out[5])/4:
            out[i]=chr(int(pow((6*i/4),2)-(i+2)*3))
        else:
            i=int(i-pow(ord(out[11]),1/2))
            out[i+10]=chr(int(pow((6*i/4),2)-(i+2)*3))
            i=int(i+pow(ord(out[11]),1/2))
    elif i==ord(out[0])/(i-1):
        out[i]=chr(int(pow(i,(1/2))+((pow(i,(3))-pow((i+i),(2))-(i*pow(ord(out[4]),(1/2))/(i))*(i+i)+((i)/i))/(2))+i))
    elif i==((pow(2,2)+pow(3,2)-pow(4,2)+pow(5,2))/(2))-((2)/(2)):
        out[i]=chr(ord(out[8])-i)
        out[int((ord(out[6])/pow(ord(out[4]),.5))+i)]=out[i]
    elif i==ord(out[9])-ord(out[7]):
        out[i]=chr(pow((1+2),(3))+4*5*6-7*8+9)
    elif i==ord(out[3])-ord(out[2-1]):
        out[i]=chr(int((-i+((1337)/(420))*60+9)-ord(out[10])+2))
    elif i>18:
        out[i]=chr(-(ord(out[7])-ord(out[16]))+ord(out[2]))
    i+=1
i=0
while i < 3+1*4+1+5+9-2+6-5:
    outs=outs+out[i]
    i+=1
print(outs)

[fast pagoda]

when i saw "helloo, w" as the declared correct translation of the first part i think was the least AI hype ive ever felt in my life

[final tinsel]

LOL

Hype^-1

Hypent

[fast pagoda]

actually, i felt myself actively losing hope

my smile and optimism? gone

[final tinsel]

Optimistn’t

[glad path]

who at apple decided the apple watch browser can't load images and breaks when you load literally any website

[fast pagoda]

the last thing that copy of gpt5 sees
a tortured existence

also my vscode theme is so absurdly broken it's unreal

[final tinsel]

Man you are making me feel bad for it

[fast pagoda]

it doesnt care that you feel bad for it

ya know

easiest way to look at it

[glad path]

i thank chatgpt because why not am I weird for doing that

its not for any particular reason

i dont really care for chatgpt

[fast pagoda]

i do too, i cant treat something that can reply to me badly

or things that cant repy to me for that matter

[glad path]

but still it is genuinely helpful so theres no reason not to thank it

[fast pagoda]

all my messages w/ any llm look like this it's so cringe

[final tinsel]

Human brain go empathy on anything vaguely human

[glad path]

i dont feel empathy for chatgpt

[fast pagoda]

i find that being uber nice gets better responses anyways

[glad path]

it does seem to have that effect

[fast pagoda]

it's trained on data where the high quality data with good responses generally is going to be at least cordial

[glad path]

llms mirror some human behaviour since thats what theyre trained on

so it makes sense

[fast pagoda]

some of the worst goddamn work product that comes out of me at actual work is dealing with adversarial people

[glad path]

you'd respond better if given thanks

[fast pagoda]

but yeah they mirror the overall """"""vibez""""""" of the data because that's literally all they are

the spooky ghost personification of a fuckload of text

[glad path]

they literally fall for pyschological traps that humans fall for

[fast pagoda]

also why the middle of the bellcurve wall is so powerful

becuase that's the sum total/net result of the data

if you fit a function to that data

it's gonna be right there in the middle unless you adjust which is what all post training and dataset prep does on either end obviously

[uneven pulsar]

Chatgpt announced now verfied user can generate a adult stuff

Have u try python 3.14.2 version

Still don't use python 13 , 14 ,15 version
Use 8,9,10,11,12

[nocturne olive]

And why would one not want to use Python 3.13+?

[uneven pulsar]

Lack of support

[nocturne olive]

And why not use it for stuff that supports it? You can have more than 1 Python version installed after all

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

My first class got cancelled so i have 5 hours left now...

[short ingot]

good morning!

[olive sable]

Guess il do some 3d modeling

[short ingot]

I just woke up about 2 hours ago too

[hard raptor]

Hewwo

Any interesting programming projects going on in peoples lives?

[olive sable]

making games

feeling good

[hard raptor]

I was thinking, if rust allows custom compile targets.. maybe someone already made a target for JVM

[tender river]

i remember there being a one for clr

and sure enough this exists too https://github.com/IntegralPilot/rustc_codegen_jvm

nostd though

[short ingot]

anyone have a good template for a docs website?

[faint sandal]

Signal is down

[olive sable]

[dry charm]

Docker hub is down as well and I need to push to prod a bugfix

[rigid timber]

AWS is having an issue in us-east-1, maybe it's related

npm is also pretty much down, takes forever to do anything (even moreso than is usual for it)

[dry charm]

Yeah something central died again

but its not cloudflare this time since discord works

[rigid timber]

first thing I did was check the cloudflare status page

[jagged turtle]

why is there a random ass network outage for random shit rn

[dry charm]

something global died most likely

[rigid timber]

bc everyone and their mother apparently has all their stuff in aws us-east-1 for some reason

[jagged turtle]

did aws go down

[rigid timber]

https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status they're having some issues

[jagged turtle]

lmfaoooooooooooo

specifically us east 1 is crazy

[faint sandal]

well the entirety of signal is down because of it

[rigid timber]

funnily enough, Signal's status page says everything is fine

[jagged turtle]

not surprised

[jagged turtle]

on their end, they arent wrong

[dry charm]

[rigid timber]

real and true

[jagged turtle]

supposedly mcdonalds app is also dead because of it

[faint sandal]

so much for an anti-surveillance app

[rigid timber]

smh no geographic redundancy

you'd expect the big guys to have at least some, not to rely on us-east-1 to be invulnerable...

[jagged turtle]

one would expect some system redundancy from anything that should be taken seriously tbh

[lost hill]

That's why McDonald's is a franchise. The US app is down, but it's a completely different app from all others.

The issue is that some of these other apps just also happened to rely on that server. Responsibility distribution gone wrong

[swift crane]

`export type ObserveMap = {
__index : ObserveMap,
new : () -> ObserveMap,

Observers : {
    [string] : {
        () -> ()
    }
},

Add : (self : ObserveMap,
    Eventname : string,
    callback : () -> ()
) -> () -> (),

Call : (self : ObserveMap, Eventname : string) -> (),
Clear : (self : ObserveMap) -> ()

}`

`local ObserveMap = {} :: ObserveMap
ObserveMap.__index = ObserveMap

function ObserveMap.new()
local self = setmetatable({
Observers = {}
} :: any, ObserveMap) :: ObserveMap
return self
end

function ObserveMap:Add(eventName: string, callback: () -> ()): () -> ()
if not eventName then
warn("No eventName provided")
return function() end
end

if not self.Observers[eventName] then
    self.Observers[eventName] = {}
end

-- Store the callback
table.insert(self.Observers[eventName], callback)

-- Return a cleanup function to remove the All callbacks
return function()
    local observers = self.Observers[eventName]
    if not observers then return end
    task.spawn(function()
        for i, storedCallback in observers do
            if storedCallback == callback then
                table.remove(observers, i)
                break
            end
        end
        if #observers == 0 then
            self.Observers[eventName] = nil
        end
    end)
end -- oh my god

end -- keep going

function ObserveMap:Call(Eventname : string)
if not self.Observers[Eventname] then
warn("No event named : " .. Eventname)
return
end
local observer = self.Observers[Eventname]
for _, callback in observer do
task.spawn(callback)
end
end

function ObserveMap:CallAll()
for eventName, callbacks in self.Observers do
for _, callback in callbacks do
task.spawn(callback)
end
end
end

function ObserveMap:Clear()
self.Observers = {}
end`

[rough bloom]

they (supposedly) do have redundancy, each region is split into availability zones that aren't all supposed to break at the same time
doesn't always work out though, since deployments can still be made to a whole region

[rigid timber]

gotta love seeing graphs like these

[jagged turtle]

cross-region redundancy tho

[short ingot]

wait what- really? I was waiting for starlight to install its dependencies, but npm create worked for me tho?

[jagged turtle]

I feel like npm would use azure

since yk

npm -> github -> microsoft

-> azure

but idr if they actually use azure

[rough bloom]

that would be ideal, and most AWS services AFAIK are per-region like that
but for some services it's just not worth it I guess
like, you can't just split stuff across regions as you want, bandwidth and latency and management becomes a much bigger issue

[rigid timber]

Iunno, they might be using multiple providers? hard to say, but I'd say it's related

[jagged turtle]

yeah, that's true

[jagged turtle]

I mean it would be smart to use multiple providers

so that we don't have the domino effect

[rigid timber]

I mean, npm still works, it just takes 5x longer than it should

so I'd wager they do have either multiple providers or at least are in more than just us-east-1 and the rest of the infrastructure is picking up the load, therefore being slow

[jagged turtle]

probably the former

[rough bloom]

DynamoDB in us-east-1 is also not fully down, it just has "significant error rates"
so it might just be retries

[rigid timber]

compare with docker hub being fully down tho

[rough bloom]

worse error handling?

[rigid timber]

possibly

[rough bloom]

idk, hard to tell without knowing how horribly cooked DynamoDB currently is

[dry charm]

and then there is docker.io who just used US-East-1 and full down

[jagged turtle]

funny how this just exposed who put all their eggs on the US-East-1 basket

[rigid timber]

turns out it's half the internet bc nobody bothers to change the default region...

[dry charm]

it dies the worst time

[jagged turtle]

nice ci

would be great if it didn't pass, ain't it?

[dry charm]

I have 0 idea why the base image is not in the cache

[dry charm]

It has an important fix for a bug that is in Prod rn even so I'm pressured to push it

[rigid timber]

is it possible that it is cached but it still checks if there's a newer version and it doesn't use the cached one if the online version check fails?

iirc some things can fail like this if they can't check the version at all, instead of using the cache

[jagged turtle]

is it because of stupid caching logic design

or is it considered smart

[rigid timber]

it's just how some stuff behaves, but usually there's config options you can pass to tweak it...

[dry charm]

yeah okay, cache fails on master now as well

Great!

[rigid timber]

Oct 20 2:01 AM PDT We have identified a potential root cause for error rates for the DynamoDB APIs in the US-EAST-1 Region. Based on our investigation, the issue appears to be related to DNS resolution of the DynamoDB API endpoint in US-EAST-1.
it's always DNS

[rough bloom]

of course

[dry charm]

always dns

[rare bramble]

I was kinda wondering why some websites had issues but this explains it

[jagged turtle]

absolute :classic:

[ivory plinth]

Classic

[maiden geyser]

what's so hard in turning strings into ipv4 addresses

[jagged turtle]

small billion dollar company pls understand

[sage crag]

NYA

[midnight sigil]

🥀 should have a local DNS fr

[rigid snow]

cloud explod

[lost hill]

Too big to fail

[short ingot]

Does anyone know the python neuro sdk enough to help me with something?

#1428980640895733820

The stacktrace might be big, but it is useful

[tender river]

this sine wave

is rapidly approaching your natural frequency

[uneven pulsar]

No way our VERDAL bro post 15 hours video
I was leaving in basement soo long

CHATGPT CANNOT ProceD 4 MINTUS MAX

STILLL MY AI LIMITING MAX SET 6 HOURS

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

time is up

Time for class

[rigid snow]

what this mean

verdal bro

[rigid snow]

i like resonating

feel funny

[tender river]

[uneven pulsar]

I NEED EXTRACT ALL WIKIPEDIA SOOON

0.72 MIB/s

[stark needle]

chat i am so cooked i had an interview and

the mf just told me

i have 2 more to go if i'm lucky

[uneven pulsar]

HMMM

[stark needle]

she told me one is a ML interview and one is a coding interview

i'm scared for the coding interview

cause i have weak DSA

[uneven pulsar]

Atleast I'm school students tho thank god

I just follow my passion

Not school will

[uneven pulsar]

section .data
msg db "Don't be scared bro just think I will crack it ", 0xA
len equ $ - msg

section .text
global _start

_start:
mov eax, 4
mov ebx, 1
mov ecx, msg
mov edx, len
int 0x80

mov eax, 1
xor ebx, ebx
int 0x80

[jagged turtle]

haven't seen any new bots with weird names join the server today

[uneven pulsar]

?help

Bro is trying to steal a candy

[jagged turtle]

???

[tight tinsel]

wtf is he saying

[maiden geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-gif-923131978119468440

[fair horizon]

Assembly jumpscare

[jagged turtle]

"possibly related"

[rigid snow]

i am possibly related to myself

i'm not sure though

[jagged turtle]

well

tomorrow's computer science class will be interesting

-# it's basically cs nerd hangout class

[uneven pulsar]

Why

AI GETTING
MORE REAL AND REAL

[jagged turtle]

Did we get NN containment leaks into #programming?

[dry charm]

Always has been leaking

both ways

[final tinsel]

AWS dead so I can’t submit my HW 🫠

[rough bloom]

it's still not recovered

[ivory plinth]

[final tinsel]

Nope

Latest update

[rough bloom]

so now they have issues with EC2 and with general connectivity

fun

[obsidian mantle]

what the hell

so long???

"dns issue" just switch dns?

[opaque sigil]

Why is there even a default aws region in the first place

[obsidian mantle]

Because if it works

We dont touch it

[uneven pulsar]

Yo

[uneven pulsar]

True

[fast pagoda]

Ronald McDonald has fallen it's so over

[uneven pulsar]

My mem pool 😭

Crash again'

[fast pagoda]

If wacdonal can't manage to keep their monopoly scam going then you know the Internet has fallen

[fast pagoda]

If this is how they have their statuspage or even just how they put out this particular update

Based

[uneven pulsar]

Aws is down?

[fast pagoda]

Beige comfy

[final tinsel]

No that’s my STARSS and I added the AWS status RSS feed

[fast pagoda]

Frig

[uneven pulsar]

Local
Is good

[fast pagoda]

I was mind blown thinking aws has a federation approved ux for anything

[uneven pulsar]

SERVER USED ,70 GB

Network

[gritty dust]

why is the enterprise giving me a network error

[fast pagoda]

Was boutta log into AWS for the first time in 3 yrs

[fast pagoda]

Picard ordered tea and the replicator gave him cold earl grey

[gritty dust]

damnn rip

[fast pagoda]

The entire alpha quadrant is at risk

[gritty dust]

Lol, Picard bouta go on a rampage for his earl grey

[uneven pulsar]

Build gpu farm in home but I have extra place to store

Pipe unit almost installation

This was unplanned

[fast pagoda]

https://tinygrad.org/#tinygrad
Really really hope that tinygrad is not blowing smoke with their claims

If they do what they say they are then itll make life so goooooood for training

[final tinsel]

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/starss-news-reader/id367300362

[uneven pulsar]

What is that

[final tinsel]

That’s the app I use for the Star Trek style rss feed

[rough bloom]

they aren't, they've been cooking and they're heading in a pretty good direction I think

[uneven pulsar]

Bro have u sacrifices over performance of gpus

[final tinsel]

It is an iPad app it’s not like I’m gonna have this open as well as 12 other things simultaneously

[uneven pulsar]

300 mb left on mem poool

PAGE IS HIGH

Hey Google hire me please I will help in QUANTUM ai

[rough bloom]

they also have that Llama 405B contract with AMD so they don't have much a choice except to make tinygrad very fast

[final tinsel]

Want me to connect you with my friend who does research in quantum computing?

New update

At least some things are back online- I’m getting canvas notifications but still can’t actually view course pages

[amber fractal]

AWS is down here as well, so uhhh. It isn't just the east side

US West just hasn't woken up yet

[final tinsel]

The issue originated in east side but I believe cascaded

https://status.aws.amazon.com/

Oh hmm

[uneven pulsar]

What !

[final tinsel]

I thought there was more discussion about other regions in that

[amber fractal]

I would have also thought so, weird

I'm lucky I did my channel reading so I could answer why amazon shopping didn't work

One sanity check later and there is a US-WEST region, wonder if it isn't known yet or? idk

[final tinsel]

Another update!

[olive sable]

good evening

-Gaston van de Postcode Loterij

[amber fractal]

Hellos

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

What a great day to start my new job in tech support

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

deadass this is actally my life right now

[olive sable]

is wherever you work also down cuz of this?

[amber fractal]

My parents amazon was down sooooooo

It is safe to assume

[olive sable]

did it get fixed already? cuz i odnt notice anything

[amber fractal]

US regions os AWS

[final tinsel]

My dad works in IT, he’s having to deal with issues on this rn

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

so its still going on, just only in the usa?

[amber fractal]

Yep

[olive sable]

i had a chat with amazon customer service literally yesterday and they were so nice and helpful. now they're probably in anguish

[final tinsel]

Oh I just realized it’s prob cuz whatever ur trying to access is located at the east servers despite your physical location being west

[rigid snow]

aws explod

[final tinsel]

:awsflipexplode:

[amber fractal]

That'd make sense

You'd think at least amazon itself would have west services

[final tinsel]

Well yeah but I’d imagine not every customer has duplicates on both sets of servers

Also are u directly pinging an AWS site or just something that uses it or like…

[amber fractal]

I was asked on amazon shopping not fully loading

[final tinsel]

Oh yeah Amazon shopping is unaffected for me

[tender river]

didnt even notice aws being down

everything works

[final tinsel]

I just wanted to submit my statics homework…

[olive sable]

idk what aws is even responsible for

[final tinsel]

Like a third of all websites

[olive sable]

all i know is prime video works perfectly fine here so i dont really care

to iggly tho

[amber fractal]

The name is Amazon Web Services, so hosting a few sites

[olive sable]

not a single site i use it seems

a guitar can be encoded to 12 bits per action

3 bit per finger

for the vertical at least, i have no clue how the horizontal works yet

[noble zodiac]

what?

[olive sable]

6 strings

• 1 for a neutral

3 bits is 8 combinations

you use 4 fingers to do the note stuff

12 bits

[noble zodiac]

you use 5

[olive sable]

not the thumb no?

[noble zodiac]

yea, you wrap it over the top sometimes

[olive sable]

oh fuck

[noble zodiac]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UnpxvzVaMtY/maxresdefault.jpg

[olive sable]

ok new idea

15 bits

nah even then you dont need those full 3 extra bits

13?

[noble zodiac]

and you can use your other hand as well

[olive sable]

why cant guitar be easy?

i need a way to make the animation proceduraly generate based on the input

[noble zodiac]

and you have to encode how long open strings ring out for

[obsidian mantle]

alright

[olive sable]

i think thats jsut too much effort for animation

[obsidian mantle]

time to try to polish my old bot

[olive sable]

they'll hear it in the audio, im not making the strings animate perfectly

[rigid snow]

wait what are you doing

[final tinsel]

I read that as polish like as in from Poland

[obsidian mantle]

[olive sable]

data -> poses
im trying to find a way to turn data into indices for poses

but i dont know how to play guitar

[noble zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1-ETuBg5A&t=48s

[final tinsel]

HMMM, AWS said next update was at 10am their time… which is now… and no update…

[rigid snow]

no i mean like uhh in general, animating a guitar for a game?

[obsidian mantle]

base64 encoding is basically a way of data compression so we send less things over cable?

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

ye

i could pregenerate the entire sequence manually, but thats a lot more lame

[noble zodiac]

no, it increases the size

[obsidian mantle]

huh

you lying

[noble zodiac]

its an encoding, not compression

different concepts

[rigid snow]

what is the source data for the positions or whatever you're encoding into those 13 bits

[olive sable]

none

[obsidian mantle]

what is the point then

and difference

[olive sable]

im still trying to invent the method im gonna use

[obsidian mantle]

[noble zodiac]

to encode data into a printable string

[obsidian mantle]

[rigid snow]

make it procedural from midi

[noble zodiac]

also, isnt that just a guitar tab?

[olive sable]

that sounds like even more of a pain than asking for the notes

[olive sable]

is what jsut a guitar tab?

[olive sable]

there are 2 E's

[noble zodiac]

yes, standard tuning has two Es

[olive sable]

interesting

[noble zodiac]

different octaves

[olive sable]

bruh

[rigid snow]

this isn't monospace

pmo

[obsidian mantle]

wait, is ALL data going through internet being encoded?

[final tinsel]

NEW AWS UPDATE

[uneven pulsar]

I need data bro's

[rigid snow]

the point of base64 is to encode arbitrary data into an alphabet of size 64 for the purpose of mapping it to printable characters. it increases the size because you're basically mapping each 6 bits (because 64=2^6) onto 8 bits (a char).

if encoded to utf-16 it's gonna be 10 extra bits instead of 2

[obsidian mantle]

this doesnt answer why
"printable" - for printer???

anyway i googled and they say its because some part of data can be interpreted as some sort of command

and no command consists of purely printable characters so it becomes safe

and i was wondering before "how are the commands just a sets of characters, what if my jpg has this sequence of characters" now i know

[noble zodiac]

because there are plenty of text medium. What if you wanted to share an unprintable byte sequence via a text message. Or encode an image in a html file

[sage crag]

integer

[olive sable]

4 fingers with movement over 6 strings + tumb over 1 string. you can have the fingers next to eachother, on the same fret, or 1, or 2 inbetween, and the whole hand moves over the frets too.
so 4 * 3bit + 1bit + 4 * 3bit + 5bit
12 + 1 + 12 + 5 bit
30 bit

i think that works?

this is suddendly becoming a lot more complicated

[uneven pulsar]

PYTHON STRING CONVERT INTO BINARY BUT BINARY CONVERT INTO .O FILE WHY ?

2 question

[olive sable]

.o file is an object file or something

"binary machine code" supposedly

[uneven pulsar]

If this code "exec(''.join(map(chr,[112,114,105,110,116,40,34,72,101,108,108,111,44,32,87,111,114,108,100,33,34,41])))"
Is valid in python?

3 question

Hint data in number