programming

[solid bough]

I pre-emptively set that before you said it

[nocturne olive]

Maybe it'll help, who knows

It will give more of the data to the model at least

Also increase batch size as high as possible

[solid bough]

maybe

[solid bough]

The original code had a Batch size of 20

[nocturne olive]

The more batch size the better, it improves compute efficiency/utilization and the averageness of the model

[nocturne olive]

Well if you have the memory, make it way higher

Remember, NeuroSynth is trained on 128 batch size and it still overfits

[solid bough]

I have only 8GB of VRAM

so I can't really go that high

[nocturne olive]

Well adjust it based on usage

[obsidian mantle]

if you are using max ram then you can only change these settings

[solid bough]

All I get on 4K images:

on Batch Size 20

[nocturne olive]

Only load one batch of images into memory at once

[solid bough]

Oh, I set it this time to 5 and as you could think it didn't go great

Now trying 1

Luckily I need to generate the samples only once after... Yeah, Batch size 1 isn't gonna help

[nocturne olive]

Batch 1 is not gonna go anywhere

You need to figure out what in the code makes it load the entire dataset at once
And change the loader such that is only loads one batch at a time

[solid bough]

4K images with samples per images at 1 which gives me a small chance didn't help either...

[nocturne olive]

If you were only loading one batch of images at once you could have infinite images

[solid bough]

x_train = (np.load('x_data.npy').astype(np.float16) / 255.0).astype(np.float16)
y_train = (np.load('y_data.npy').astype(np.float16) / 255.0).astype(np.float16)```

[solid bough]

If I knew how to do that

[nocturne olive]

Yeah that's gonna limit you
You gotta replace that with a dynamic loader

[solid bough]

I am at my limits of even understanding the code

[nocturne olive]

Then get better

You gotta know what you're working with to do good in machine learning

It helps quite a lot for me to be able to adjust NeuroSynth's trainer code too

[solid bough]

CodeParade really knows what needed to be done for a good model

[nocturne olive]

Well that part they just did that way because they clearly have infinite VRAM

[solid bough]

CodeParade said I should stream the training data in while it is getting trained.

[nocturne olive]

Yeah that should be what is there

[solid bough]

The model was made 2018

Or late 2017

[nocturne olive]

Streaming the data is indeed what you want

[solid bough]

And I have no idea how to do that

[nocturne olive]

Well you need to learn

[solid bough]

It's a wonder rn that I make coherent sentences rn

[nocturne olive]

The data loading code is suspect one

[solid bough]

Controversial idea: Going to chat

[trim valve]

oh god oh no

[solid bough]

Blender I see

[trim valve]

blender is going to make it so you can bundle the lines together in shaders (geo nodes, etc...)

don't get me wrong, incredible idea

flashbacks to minecraft ME systems though

[glass flower]

no channel limit tho

[trim valve]

true

though tbf I think my last system had like >2k channels available

[nocturne olive]

I kinda hope I can complete a lot of new NeuroSynth/JP data next week

[rigid snow]

sjfkldfllk;j

[olive sable]

i need to make 3D models

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

[rigid snow]

i need to do something else but i want to model now

[olive sable]

ill have to look where i put the old blend file

[nocturne olive]

I can't even model stuff at all

[solid bough]

True, it has it's upsides

[nocturne olive]

Or art

Or anything like that

I can just do vocals

[solid bough]

RAM Modules?

[olive sable]

blender like eating ram

[rigid snow]

superbox singing arc

[nocturne olive]

Wha

I meant synthesized

[rigid snow]

jok

[trim valve]

where's my stupid screenshot

[nocturne olive]

Surely not as much as Firefox

[trim valve]

also I keep putting of learning to sing in any capacity and it annoys me greatly

[nocturne olive]

Surely you can just make a vocal synthesizer of your voice

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

or I could just learn to sing

[olive sable]

firefox has never used the full 64gb before on my pc so im pretty sure blender uses more

[nocturne olive]

Firefox uses more

[trim valve]

voice train to neuro and learn to sing

[nocturne olive]

I have confirmed cases of 23GB+ usage

[rigid snow]

close tabs

[nocturne olive]

Surely

[trim valve]

its easy

just don't open a twitch tab

[nocturne olive]

I already unloaded most of them, didn't help much

[trim valve]

:3

[olive sable]

with firefox you kinda know when you do something that takes a lot of ram, cuz you have 200 tabs open

in blender you misclick and oops you have 64Gb of ram fully loaded, with a page file of 40Gb next to it

[trim valve]

well I was looking for something else but

[olive sable]

bro has a 64K x 64K texture in there

[trim valve]

idk what I even did to cause that

[solid bough]

I have only 64GB of DDR4

[trim valve]

"only"

[solid bough]

Yes, that is what I mean

[olive sable]

64gb is a lot

[solid bough]

NaH

Nah3Cl

filtered

[nocturne olive]

Yes that is very little

[olive sable]

16gb is bare minimum, 32gb is medium, 64gb is large

[nocturne olive]

64GB bare minimum, 128GB decent, 256GB big

[solid bough]

Yeah, but I have another PC that has in Total 64GB too

[trim valve]

om

[solid bough]

I would say 32GB is ok

[trim valve]

64 bare minimum for some ai stuff, sure

[solid bough]

OOoooh

for that

[trim valve]

but uh, most people will never use 64

[olive sable]

you say that, while also complaining about being broke

[solid bough]

Now were talking serious memory

[nocturne olive]

Now that's kinda getting there

[olive sable]

"kinda"

[solid bough]

Kinda jealous now

[nocturne olive]

Well if I wasn't broke I would have 256GB DDR5

[solid bough]

Anyway

[rigid snow]

64 bare minimum?? what the fuck is bro on

[olive sable]

im perfectly fine with 64gb, i know i will literally never use 512gb

[nocturne olive]

Two web apps

[trim valve]

but sam

[olive sable]

yes

im sam

[nocturne olive]

Web apps really like to leak memory

[trim valve]

think about how many virtual machines you could host

create a neurocord vm service

[rigid snow]

they don't

[olive sable]

i have a leak so i must buy more buckets ah

[trim valve]

run every chess bot in a vm

with 16 gigs of ram each

[olive sable]

jsut fix your fuckign memory leak bro

[rigid snow]

literally the only instance i know of is 7tv

[nocturne olive]

Discord: leaks memory
YouTube: leaks memory
Twitch: leaks memory
AlieExpress: leaks memory
Google: leaks memory
GitHub: leaks memory

[rigid snow]

ok discord sure

everything else no

[olive sable]

bruh, why they all so leaky?

[glass flower]

noone will ever need more than 128kb of memory

[trim valve]

[nocturne olive]

I have confirmed them consuming multiple GBs of RAM each after a few days of running

[olive sable]

how is it possible i have better memory safety than multi-billion coreperations?

[solid bough]

Heck yeah:

[trim valve]

noone will ever have more than 1.44MB of storage

[solid bough]

Now I increase the Batch size

[nocturne olive]

Oh did you manage streaming data?

[solid bough]

Ahem

uh

Chat did

[glass flower]

they are all electron maybe thats the reason (well or atleast react)

[solid bough]

[nocturne olive]

Probably

[solid bough]

Superbox, I'm sorry that I didn't do it

But VRAM usage is better: VRAM: 25.2 MB / 2471.3 MB |

[olive sable]

2471 MB ????

[nocturne olive]

Oh yeah that's way more like it

[olive sable]

oh ye

i forgot

was it you with the N4020?

[nocturne olive]

Now make the batch size 512 and you're on your way

[solid bough]

I have the Asus NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti TUF GAMING OC EDITION

[nocturne olive]

I need more batch size on NeuroSynth

I need more GPUs with more VRAM

[olive sable]

there's no way a 3070ti has 2GB of vram

[solid bough]

That is the usage btw

Left is "Current" and right is "Peak"

[olive sable]

but the denuminator was 2GB

oh

i see

[solid bough]

def print_vram_usage():
    if not gpu_var.physical_devices:
        print("No GPU found")
        return
    for i, gpu in enumerate(gpu_var.physical_devices):
        details = tf.config.experimental.get_memory_info(f"GPU:{i}")
        used_mb = details['current'] / 1024**2
        total_mb = details['peak'] / 1024**2
        print(f"VRAM: {used_mb:.1f} MB / {total_mb:.1f} MB", end=' | ')
        print()
        return```

[nocturne olive]

Should separate by | instead of /

[olive sable]

its not a fraction

lmao

[rigid snow]

i have 30+ tabs of github permaopen in a ff based browser, no it doesn't leak, same with youtube. vanilla twitch just sucks perf wise but doesn't leak. can't say anything about aliexpress. google is a funny entry no the fuck it doesn't leak anything it's literally a website billions of people use daily including me no it doesn't. as i said literally the only leaks i encountered in my browser is 7tv and discord

[solid bough]

Well, Should I yeet the model I have rn that I'm training and start from scratch?

[nocturne olive]

Well it was more likely Google drive since it was just a google.com domain using a ton of RAM

[rigid snow]

google drive does seem like the type of app to leak

[nocturne olive]

I don't know how I commonly see YouTube tabs and stuff using upwards of 1GB though

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

at daily usage i have 7/64 gb, in blender i have maybe 20 gb used. its only really when i fuck up and misclick that i use the full 64gb while blender tries its best to not shit itself

[solid bough]

App leak?

[rigid snow]

the type of app to leak memory

[solid bough]

Oh my bad

Sorry mlntcandy

[rigid snow]

?

for what

[nocturne olive]

If I knew why my memory gets sinked so fast over time with Firefox often using 18GB+ I would fix it

[olive sable]

iirc, the game-jam game has some memory leaks i never bothered to fix

its on the scale of only a couple megabytes so i didnt consider it worth my type

[nocturne olive]

My current mem usage is 41GB

[solid bough]

That I didn't know, I'm sorry

[nocturne olive]

Total full system

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

what are you even doing to be using 40GB?

[solid bough]

System ram?

[trim valve]

holy

[solid bough]

Jesus filtered

[solid bough]

System Ram?

[trim valve]

that uh

[nocturne olive]

I don't know, most of it is usually Firefox

[trim valve]

I'm suprised the nas is handling it that well

[nocturne olive]

Like half of it is almost definitely Firefox

[olive sable]

brother what are you doing with your firefox????????????

[solid bough]

That is faster than my DL speed

[solid bough]

That was my question too

Geez

[olive sable]

firefox only uses 1GB on my hyprland

[trim valve]

wait lmao what

I think someone merged a bunch of video files together and somehow went from 50mbit to 500mbit

[solid bough]

And my Chrome with 7 tabs in total uses like 1.2GB

Even with the Neuro stream open

[nocturne olive]

Interestingly in at least system monitor I can't even account for all my system's memory usage by adding up the major numbers

[rigid snow]

chrome is great with resources

[solid bough]

It can be great

[sage crag]

wasm support

in hblang

can use instead of emscripten now

replace immediately

[nocturne olive]

Though system monitor sucks, btop just doesn't seem to have sort by mem usage

[solid bough]

Hiiii konii

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

holy fire this is hdr too

[rigid snow]

no it just objectively is when there's firefox skewing the statistics

[olive sable]

so what you mean to tell me is that you repeatedly lose your ram and because of that you say 64GB is the bare minimum?

[trim valve]

or at least 10 bit?

[rigid snow]

god awful browser

[nocturne olive]

Well I would very much like to know where it goes

[solid bough]

And I personally am too lazy to switch browsers.

[rigid snow]

[trim valve]

firefox has a whole page dedicated to breaking down memory usage doesn't it?

[olive sable]

webgl?

[trim valve]

if not two pages

[solid bough]

I use Google Chrome since 2019 at least

[rigid snow]

@sage crag

[nocturne olive]

about:memory yeah

[sage crag]

sure if you have javascript bindings

[olive sable]

bruh

[sage crag]

or even a wasm module

it supports @import() in wasm just fine

[olive sable]

oooh

[solid bough]

Oh now I get why you are confused mlntcandy, Sorry.

[nocturne olive]

Hem
Doesn't really line up with what system monitor tells me
System monitor must be wrong

[sage crag]

cant import c libs, can import wasm modules though

so if you have a wasm module for webgl it would work fine

[solid bough]

I'm sorry mlntcandy

[rigid snow]

chrome is good

why are you apologizing

[sage crag]

blink is good

[modern gulch]

Sorry if this is completely off topic but does anyone know of
a website/resources that -

Regularly updates a timeline/list of influential AI/LLM research papers based on the number of citations made off of that paper
If it doesn't exist someone should do that

Id assume it would basically be a web scraping program that keeps a list of papers checked and then moves through all the papers published so far

And just like counts citations for each paper as time goes forward
since the AI Boom

Would be a valuable resource for reading up on how we got here and what the mainstream stuff
You can even probably code it so that papers that were later disproven are labels such

Would probably make more sense to make it into a kind of visual branching tree diagram where the most referenced papers have brighter connections each other

Idk if I'm explaining this properly

No I'm not begging btw just a thought I had

[solid bough]

Did you forget that I'm German?

[nocturne olive]

So yeaaahhhh this thing kinda uses a bunch of memory and I would like to know why

[sage crag]

🦆

[rigid snow]

my brain hurts what is going on

[nocturne olive]

Where is the memory even going???

[rigid snow]

[solid bough]

I'm sorry mlntcandy

[nocturne olive]

The breakdown doesn't look that useful, there's no gigantic outliers this time

Eh don't want to leak anything by accident

[olive sable]

superbox, firefox literally has a built-in task manager to see where your ram usage is

[solid bough]

I use:

And yes, I'm still not chaging the theme

[nocturne olive]

Sure

[obsidian mantle]

im so mad
i add feature thats supposed to prune bad moves
=> it prunes good moves too

[nocturne olive]

If that one's only 3GB thogh

1. where is the 15GB+ coming from
2. WHERE IS MY RAM GOING

[olive sable]

firefox pleads innocence

[nocturne olive]

Oh wait the top one is just main process usage

I seeeeeeee

[rigid snow]

ye i was about to say

[nocturne olive]

Still, it's not 15GB total for sure

[rigid snow]

sort by memory

[solid bough]

That is some false positives for ya

[obsidian mantle]

it would be easy if it pruned best moves only

no

it literally adds random prunes and nothing else

sometimes its good sometimes its bad

0 consistency

only prune when its non-pv non-check non capture no nothing?

0 difference

[solid bough]

Hi vituha

[nocturne olive]

I don't know, doesn't look like 15GB

[obsidian mantle]

[solid bough]

How's going?

[obsidian mantle]

ok some random previous version beats 1500 elo stockfish

veru good

i discovered that that stockfish that was DESTROYING my bots wasnt actually 1350 elo as it logged

it was going max power

[solid bough]

Test

My network is ok

[rigid snow]

your screenshot as input

[obsidian mantle]

it says "elo limit 1350"
but the box in settings isnt checked and its ignored

[nocturne olive]

Oh do the small things seriously add up to that much?

So I guess then Firefox is indeed using 15GB

[rigid snow]

yes

[obsidian mantle]

comback from -5 on 1700.. stockfish just loses on time basically.
it wins but spends more time. ends up having 5 seconds when my bot has 30

[olive sable]

you have 3 + 2 + 1 + 2 x 0.7 + 4 x 0.5 + 6 x 0.3 + 5 x 0.2 + 8 x 0.1
so 3+2+1+1.4+2+2+1+0.8
roughly 14

the small ones add up

[obsidian mantle]

as white stockfish finds mate too fast and i lose

i have to figure out whats the deal with these phantom upgrades im making or else this will be my cap

[nocturne olive]

I'm running out of tabs to unload and this thing still uses so much RAM

This is all that's left

[orchid mesa]

oh wow thanks @nocturne olive

[nocturne olive]

Wha

[orchid mesa]

swapped to torch and instantly recognized my gpu lol (i mean after setting up cuda and stuff)

[nocturne olive]

Well yeah, Tensorflow is known for having removed GPU support on Windows

[orchid mesa]

removed? or just not up to date?

[nocturne olive]

Just removed entirely

Not supported

[orchid mesa]

i think i made it work before, i just had to downgrade shitton of stuffs to make it owork

[nocturne olive]

Yeah it existed on early versions, but not there on modern any more

[orchid mesa]

ah alr 👍 thanks

why would some courses in coursera recommended tensorflow then as the starting point for neural netowkr?

[nocturne olive]

May be a bit outdated

[solid bough]

And I'm outdated

[mighty hill]

hi

[solid bough]

Hi, Welcome at #programming

[olive stag]

TIL!

This just sent me on a sidequest, turns out you can go to about:about in FF to get a list of its about: pages

[clear sedge]

:o

[solid bough]

So is there on Chrome:

[clear sedge]

real git code

[tender river]

ye lgtm

[sage crag]

rrrr

lgtm

merge

[cosmic sphinx]

broooo pb why did you annihilate the instrumentals so much in the cover

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

yeah the mixing today was all wonky

not matter still good

[olive sable]

Yt shorts breaks so often

Actually i should get back to work anyways

[amber fractal]

So

[olive sable]

So

[cobalt sigil]

mine can't even play

and my videos as well

[glad path]

chrome://flags

do be fun

especially on chromeos

[olive sable]

so what you mean is that the entire app doesnt work?

[cobalt sigil]

oh fucking bad news

yt is kinda dead

[olive sable]

oh is the entire platform just dead?

[cobalt sigil]

the browsing features works

[olive sable]

videos work on my desktop still

the video i was watching before still works at least

ok ye other videos dont work

good thing i was watching a 40 minute documentary

[rigid snow]

videos don't load and this now shows up

the link leads directly to this

"have a problem? blame adblock" -youtube private documents 2025

oh it's back for me

[amber fractal]

Yeah I had the error as well

[olive sable]

brother even yt music is broken

[amber fractal]

That is the same backend

I'm glad my stuff is downloaded

[olive sable]

i got a 1 month free trial on tuesday cuz they patched the cracked one i was using nd i need to find a new one

[amber fractal]

bwa

[olive sable]

oh ye

downloads

[rigid snow]

spoke too soon yep dead again

[olive sable]

i hasve my entire playlist downloaded

[amber fractal]

Got 400ish worth of music downloaded, I'm good

Outclassed geez

[faint sandal]

and listen to the same 5 songs on repeat

[amber fractal]

Seems about right

[olive sable]

Huh

Inconsistent

[amber fractal]

your automatics have been purged

[olive sable]

lmao

[rigid snow]

i don't think i have 2 months of music if i combine all of my music like all of my playlists from every streaming service i ever used, all music from itunes era and cd era. 2 months is fucking crazy

[olive sable]

probably like 90+% of the people on twitter uses yt so its understandable

[rigid snow]

and it's actually like 3 months

because of 4 weeks

[olive sable]

thats what you get with terabyte i guess

unrelated, but please photoshop. what the fuck are you doing? why doe the image have gray holes?

[rigid snow]

ipods' selling point was that you could carry your whole library because they had hard drives

and they were like 50gb

100gb

[amber fractal]

That'd still work for me

[olive sable]

100gb is not too much for like movies, but for music its a lot

[rigid snow]

that's my point

[olive sable]

i knnow

people still ended up watching shrek on ipods tho

[rigid snow]

i mean i didn't say it so i expliicitly confirm

[rigid snow]

not all of them could play video

[olive sable]

the later ones could no?

i wasnt a breathing creature back then so i have no clue how the different gens worked, but i seem to remember ipod color or something

or am i confusing it with the gameboy?

[rigid snow]

color?

ye gameboy

[olive sable]

touch?

it was some adjective

[rigid snow]

the touches should not count

they had flash

tiny

my ipod touch has 8gb

[amber fractal]

Yep they did, I remember having to juggle storage on that when I had it.

far too long ago

[olive sable]

5th gen and later could play video apparently

idk what 5th gen means exactly but sure

[rigid snow]

that’s like approximately when you were born

[olive sable]

5th gen was 2005 according to google ai

im 07

[rigid snow]

oh really

05

[olive sable]

07 was 6th gen i guess

[rigid snow]

i thought they skipped a couple but apparently they were annual

wait

what the fuck is that release schedule

ok so they did skip one after the 5th

[olive sable]

01 -> 1st gen
02 -> 2nd gen
03 -> 3rd gen
04 -> 4th gen
04 -> ipod photo?
05 -> 5th gen
07 -> 6th gen
dead

[amber fractal]

Man the wikipedia is a mess with all of the skews

[rigid snow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#Models_and_features

[olive sable]

there's a unofficial 7th gen that was just a 6th gen but they made it slimmer cuz of hard drives getting smaller, but they also added a new "genius mixes" feature so its basically a new device kinda

[amber fractal]

Which one of yous are buying an iPod touch in 2020

[rigid snow]

i forgot they had that

what the fuck were they thinking lmaooo

[rigid snow]

no it was a proper new gen, better hardware and all

[amber fractal]

Draw your line, when should it have stopped

[olive sable]

wiki says it wasnt official or something

idk i wasnt there

[rigid snow]

on the 6th obviously

7th gen made no sense

the fucking iphone 11 came out the same year

everyone was on streaming services in like 2017 already

on their phone

[olive sable]

iPod Touch 7th Gen    iPhone (around 2016-2019)
Wi-Fi only    Cellular (LTE) and Wi-Fi
Apple A10 chip, but underclocked    Apple A10 chip (faster clock speed)

so its jsut a worse version of the iphone

[patent shard]

YT works fine for me, but there are def a lot of people that it does not
probably a botched rollout update

[proud ivy]

I created a web app using Firebase Studio: Doctoral Suitability Assessment Scale A scientific, non-diagnostic self-assessment tool to evaluate your readiness for a PhD program. https://dsascale.vercel.app/

[amber fractal]

I'd consider 6th gen also a bust due to in line with iPhone 6

[rigid snow]

yes, it is essentially an iphone, but no biometric id, no vibration/haptics, no earpiece speaker, no cellular modem

[olive sable]

but it was 199 so actually not too bad, compared to the iphone being 450

[proud ivy]

You can view source code here: https://github.com/ZhanZiyuan/doctoral-suitability-assessment

[olive sable]

the worst models, not the full upgrades versions

[amber fractal]

[rigid snow]

yes but you already have the fucking phone

[olive sable]

do i?

[rigid snow]

in 2019 you even had apple music for android already

find one reason to buy the ipod touch in 2019

there are literally 0

[olive sable]

ipod touch is essentialy just a cheap phone, i would have mained it

[faint sandal]

I tried making an apple account recently and it didn't let me verify so I can't use it

[rigid snow]

you couldn’t for the reasons i mentioned above as differences

[olive sable]

who cares about biometric if it saves me 250 bucks

[rigid snow]

i mean if your requirements from a phone are only facetime on wifi then sure

you could’ve

[olive sable]

the only actually deabreaker one might be the cellular

i hav no clue how that works tho

no cellular means also no 4g?

[rigid snow]

cellular means cellular

service

no sim

[amber fractal]

No cell service does suck for a "phone"

[rigid snow]

yeah

[proud ivy]

A plan to back up the capital?

[olive sable]

to me the word cellular is a nothingburger buzzword with almost no meaning behind it. i read it as "phone go bzzzz"

[rigid snow]

also this is fucking crazy but facetime is insanely backwards compatible, i still can facetime from my ipod touch 4th gen which came out in 2010 and the latest software is ios 6

it still works

i mean it did like a year ago

[olive sable]

thats to be expected no?

[rigid snow]

no doubt it still does

[rigid snow]

why

[faint sandal]

[rigid snow]

how is it expected

[amber fractal]

Netflix was also pretty backwards compatible, I think 3ish years ago they removed their android 2 support

[rigid snow]

it’s a proprietary video calling thing

[olive sable]

idk how facetime works

[rigid snow]

why would it work on a device 15 years old

[olive sable]

my frame of reference is facebook messenger

[amber fractal]

your face gets thrown to the other person in realtime

[rigid snow]

fun fact, they wanted to make facetime an open spec

initially

[olive sable]

ye so its jsut video -> compression -> internet -> screen

like youtube

[proud ivy]

while there are no capital cities in Japan.

[rigid snow]

but a patent troll ruined it

same with imessage iirc

or maybe not this i’m not sure

[olive sable]

does tokyo not count?

[proud ivy]

Yes it is but not legally.

[olive sable]

huh

[amber fractal]

It was somewhere else, not sure of the exacts

lets see how long youtube lasts

something went though at least

[proud ivy]

[trim valve]

is it even like allowed to sell a phone without cellular in the eu

I guess you probably can but noone does it

[olive sable]

why wouldnt it be allowed?

[rigid snow]

i would expect that with nowadays mobile platform tech, especially from facebook (i know netflix isn't facebook i just thought of them) because they're known for stuff like server defined ui and created react native which is js which means js bundle patches on the fly "circumventing" the app stores, so they're much closer to web apps in that sense

[trim valve]

idk something in my head about emergency calls

because you're supposed to be able to do them from any phone

it is nearly 2am so I'm probably not thinking perfectly straight 😭

[rigid snow]

i found a proposed regulation on that from 2018

none in effect

[trim valve]

fair

I see https://www.appluslaboratories.com/global/en/news/european-e112-mobile-emergency-call-regulation-(eu)-2019320)-to-come-into-force-on-march-17th- but haven't read any of the specifics enough to make a valid opinon on it yet

[rigid snow]

but i mean why would you want a phone without cellular

anyway?

[trim valve]

wifi only phone is certainly a choice

o wait this is for the ipod

idk makes more sense because it was literally an mp3 player that could download new songs, but when they were popular downloading over mobile data would've been expensive and slow ig?

[rigid snow]

apple literally wouldn’t let you download apps >300mb through data until like 2018 or something

[trim valve]

😭

[rigid snow]

that wasn’t a setting or anything, literally hardcoded

my numbers may be off but there was that limitation

the limit was 200mb actually

it was 150mb until 2019 wtf

[trim valve]

is there still a limit?

[rigid snow]

no

i don’t think so at least considering how many people have unlimited

and i don’t think i’ve ever seen it

[trim valve]

after telling chatgpt to tell me I'm correct it says im correct

Conclusion:

For a phone to be legally sold in the EU without the ability to connect to cellular networks, it must still be able to make emergency calls in some way—whether through cellular access or another form of emergency communication [...]

[rigid snow]

i haven’t looked too much into it i’m probably wrong

[trim valve]

in order to sell a phone without the ability to connect to cellular networks [...] make emergency calls by connecting to cellular networks

thanks chatgpt

[rigid snow]

but i couldn’t find anything in effect

[trim valve]

fair

(36) It is important that users should be able to call the single European emergency number "112", and any other national emergency telephone numbers, free of charge, from any telephone, including public pay telephones, without the use of any means of payment. [...]
hmm

I think it depends if its classed as a telephone or not?

[faint sandal]

"we never called it a phone there's a reason why it's called a shitbrick 3000"

[trim valve]

well like I think you can still sell tablets just fine?

idk I haven't looked at them in ages

from a glance samsung sells https://www.samsung.com/uk/tablets/galaxy-tab-a/galaxy-tab-a11-grey-64gb-wi-fi-sm-x130nzaaeub/ which doesn't advertise cellular

so I guess its probably allowed?

[trim valve]

what is this godawful font

[rigid snow]

timeline:

• 10mb: initial limit with the release of app store in 2008
• 50mb: no exact date, apparently slowly increased it
• 100mb in 2013
• 150mb in 2017
• 200mb in 2019, end of may
• literally one week later in an update it now shows a confirmation window instead of stopping you, beginning of june 2019

i was on android back then but i remember that vividly because peers tried to download games and couldn’t

[glad path]

hi guys what do we think of this

[jagged turtle]

💀

[glad path]

ok this is blasphemy

shiro go inflict eternal birthday wishes on this individual

[jagged turtle]

casual user moment

[glad path]

i don't even use linux

[olive sable]

shame

[glad path]

I would

but asahi linux seems to be the only real option according to the small amount of research i've done

and they don't yet have proper support for M3

nor M4

https://asahilinux.org/fedora/#device-support

[amber fractal]

Windows good for software, the OS can go into hellfire

[patent shard]

only good for software because people don't develop for Linux

...because the userbase is so small

[glad path]

Correction: software is good for windows

[opaque sigil]

*as a consumer

[prime timber]

Hi I'm new to visual studio and

I want to know how to run a cpp

[opaque sigil]

First mistake, using visual studio

[prime timber]

waht

wath

[opaque sigil]

I'm just kidding

[prime timber]

I can't send img oop

it says

could not find open source file

[topaz tendon]

??? (same email btw)

[nocturne olive]

Part of it could be Twitch compression
But also the mixes on karaoke streams are sometimes overly vocal-oriented
I personally mix deep to make the vocal more balanced with the instrumental

[open copper]

hope nobody clicked that

[nocturne olive]

There was a scam link somewhere?

[topaz tendon]

Some shady trading link or smth

[nocturne olive]

Speaking of karaoke though, why is there none of the new stuff in the drive from yesterday?

[patent shard]

it used to be where compressing the mp3 from the google drive with even 96kbps ffmpeg aac would sound less butchered than the stream, yeah
not sure if that's the case anymore

[nocturne olive]

Yeah stream audio is horrible somehow

I have no idea why

Could be that Vedal's system has to do some mixing on the fly to play both the instrumental and vocal but it kinda breaks

I blame Unity to be honest

[blissful geyser]

yay it works now

[jagged turtle]

anyone else getting this?

[blissful geyser]

expired certificate prob

[jagged turtle]

bit weird for it to expire already

[blissful geyser]

you can check the SSL Cert

[jagged turtle]

oh it just expired 2 minutes ago???

[blissful geyser]

oh so it did expire

[jagged turtle]

no wait I misread that

[blissful geyser]

there you go

[jagged turtle]

it was supposed to expire 2 minutes ago tomorrow (according to sent back cert)

can someone else check the cert fingerprints for me?

I feel like this is way too short for production

[blissful geyser]

for me it says this

so mine is fine

[jagged turtle]

what's the fingerprint?

[jagged turtle]

fun

[rough bloom]

I'm seeing this cert too

[jagged turtle]

(it's mismatched to what I got, which I think means something is interfering?)

[blissful geyser]

oh something must be interfering on your end

check your network security i guess

[jagged turtle]

i'm on train wifi rn so I don't expect that the train wifi is playing nice

[obsidian mantle]

What site is it

[patent shard]

isnt 3 months kind of short?

[jagged turtle]

what else has a .app domain?

[blissful geyser]

wait, you're on a public wifi?

[jagged turtle]

yup, though I don't expect someone to be trying to mitm

maybe vpn will help

[blissful geyser]

just to be safe i would do that too

its pretty weird for it to say expired when everyone else has an updated cert

[jagged turtle]

oh fuck is my vpn even enabled on my vps

[jagged turtle]

doesn't happen for vedal.ai

so I just need another .app domain that's obscure but is an actual site to see if network admins block .app domains with smth weird

i cant load youtube :LULE:

[obsidian mantle]

Works for me through netherlands vpn

I can try different countries

Idk which

[jagged turtle]

no it's bc of public wifi 99% sure

[rough bloom]

definitely a train wifi issue, ye

[opal blade]

https://letsencrypt.org/2015/11/09/why-90-days

[patent shard]

hmm, guess it can be automated, yeah

[topaz tendon]

Accidentally stumbled on what looks like a really good deal for some excellent headphones (under half of its intended price): https://aliexpress.com/item/1005008888888308.html

(Beyerdynamic DT900 Pro X)

Though if I scroll down below on that page, there seems like a lot of pro/audiophile grade headphones also for much less, huh, never knew they can be gotten that much cheaper over there

[obsidian mantle]

I heard aliexpress can be risky

Risky as in

You buy something and something much worse quality arrives

[unkempt citrus]

That's not the risk

That's the expectation

Aliexpress is cheap because straight from factory and has no QC

The risk is that it never arrives because the shipping is bottom of the barrel

[topaz tendon]

I haven't bought much from AliExpress but I see they have some form of customer protection, like refunds in case of no product arrival, does anyone have first-hand experience with them?

[paper creek]

in order to sell a phone without the ability to connect to cellular networks [...] make emergency calls by connecting to cellular networks
thanks chatgpt

[glass jetty]

for some reasons plugin, that i decided to try a while ago, just not want to work. clangd installed and config just like readme.md, but just not work Warn: No Lsp servers found for "<project>/coroutine_reference.cpp"

what would you recommend for lsp client? just common one, but there a lot and idk what to choice, not want spend 3 hours just to read them all and extra 6 hours to choice
# vim

[nocturne olive]

I know got his 7GHz+ god binned 13900 engineering sample from there

[graceful pasture]

wait, you're on a public wifi?

[proud ivy]

Hi, there. I created a web app, please feel free to try it: Doctoral Suitability Assessment Scale https://dsascale.vercel.app/

The source code is here: https://github.com/ZhanZiyuan/doctoral-suitability-assessment

[rigid snow]

wait 4.5 haiku is actually good?

[nocturne olive]

What is that?

[rigid snow]

claude 4.5 haiku

llm

[nocturne olive]

Oh useless garbage

[rigid snow]

ding ding ding

[obsidian mantle]

Why do i feel like some messages have been repeated

[uncut panther]

had the same conversation yesterday

or the day before

[midnight sigil]

what is this based on, like where are the questions from, how are they correlates to doctoral suitability

[glass delta]

my graphics card is AMD

[dry charm]

Then everything should work OOB

[proud ivy]

OK. Thanks for your feedback. I'll try to solve these in the next version.

[proud ivy]

Now it's a prototype by GPT-5 and Firebase Studio.

[proud ivy]

The intro page of the website provides some references.

[gaunt vale]

trees
the far away ones are octahedral impostors

purple is LOD1

[true hemlock]

aliexpress is best.

just takes quite longer to ship than amazon in general

but its basically chinese amazon, just as reliable

and its recommended to only buy from a seller with a lot of sold items and high ratings

[uneven pulsar]

Yo

[olive sable]

Yo

[uneven pulsar]

I need dev help

[obsidian mantle]

What happened

[uneven pulsar]

Making self talking function

const MEMORY_LIMIT = 729828;
const MAX_REPLY_WORDS = 82200;
const TEMPERATURE = 0.8;

[gritty dust]

Morning

[uneven pulsar]

function tokenize(text) {
return text
.toLowerCase()
.replace(/[^a-z0-9'\s]/g, "")
.split(/\s+/)
.filter(Boolean);
}

[uneven pulsar]

Good morning

[clear sedge]

then you should be good

[nocturne olive]

To be honest Nvidia works perfectly fine too

I run a dual GPU setup and have had no issues at all

[clear sedge]

✅

there's just an extra step to follow on fedora

[sick owl]

So vibrant

[trim valve]

new record

who thought that would be a good bitrate for 1920x1080@25fps 4:2:2 10bit

also seemingly with interlacing artifacts for good luck I guess

[olive sable]

[trim spire]

I've started messing around with Python recently. A lot of stuff still goes over my head but I managed to write a Discord bot connected to an OpenAI API. Which has been fucking hilarious so far, but I can already tell it has a lot of limitations regarding pretty much everything besides standard plain responses with a modified personality.

So I was thinking of letting my next hobby project be training a language model on some data and see how that goes but ngl I'm worried about computing power. I have an Geforce RTX3060 and 32GB of RAM on my current PC which I really only use for work (Design) and I have no idea what this involves in terms of how beefy a PC I'd need. Like I said, hobby project, I'm not expecting it to solve math equations or rationalize philophical questions I just wanna play with it.

[glass delta]

but still, Arch vs Fedora good battle?

[clear sedge]

arch is good if you want very high customisation
i recommend fedora kde for a decent mix of customisation and sane defaults

[glass delta]

what about the rest of the aspects

who would win?

[noble zodiac]

they just completely different approaches

[clear sedge]

arch is generally bleeding edge and rolling-release
fedora is cutting edge and a mix between different versions and rolling updates

neither would necessarily win, but i'd recommend the average person, gamer, or programmer, to use fedora kde

arch takes a lot more setup time with a lot of things

archinstall mitigates that a bit but i wouldn't trust a sometimes-faulty python script to install my os

i personally use fedora workstation, the gnome flavor of fedora, cuz i'm just used to it

[ivory plinth]

personally:

[stray dragon]

all roads lead away from arch

i see

[gritty dust]

"I use arch btw" said every guy who uses arch

[ivory plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1416196306732453969.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=YES

[ivory plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1295569443908227155.webp?size=48&name=tue

[midnight sigil]

Arch causes traffic congestion

[uneven pulsar]

My book just divide by ÷2

Now it divide by 8.8

[stark needle]

Ye ur good compute wise

[topaz tendon]

Thank you for the opinion, hopefully it'll get useful to me if I ever get over my patience issues (I got really used to 1-2 day shipping from local shops)

[rare bramble]

nice documentation Microsoft

[formal quartz]

i don't think my bot is any smart yet (play against stockfish) or i have something wrong ig
even i see that thats not good piece development xD

[dapper kernel]

Femboy

[obsidian mantle]

rook here looks like bot took first move in list

it can happen for many reasons

[formal quartz]

yeah im not looking too deep yet and every position probs had the same value (no extra value for positioning yet)

[obsidian mantle]

you 100% need positioning value

its much more important than it feels

from my experience these are actually basic things that need to be in any alphabeta-like heuristic bot for it to be competitive:

1. quiescence search
2. static evaluation with positioning
3. alpha beta pruning

[formal quartz]

yeah but i really did not put in enough time so im still getting the basics to work

probs not gonna end up submitting, at this point im just in it to see if i get something halfway decent to work

[obsidian mantle]

actually good improvements that work and give significant profit:

1. pvs
2. move sorting
3. transposition tables

[nocturne olive]

For me move sorting made it like twice as slow

[obsidian mantle]

how do you sort it

[nocturne olive]

I tried many sorting orderings

[obsidian mantle]

basic "order by capture values" should be good enough

[nocturne olive]

Well I ended up with a put captures first thing in the end
It mostly doesn't do too much and I hope it's better at scale

[formal quartz]

i saw people say using the chess videos form Sebastian Lague are a good start, so im working along that without looking at the code for now

[nocturne olive]

I don't know if the reason it was so slow was because it was having to do a lot more memory copies per searched move

[obsidian mantle]

i didnt list iterative deepening because it makes bot x10 times slower
but it unlocks many other things you can use, and it becomes hard to tune to make it better

it doesnt make it that much slower but you start wasting most of your time per turn on last depth search which isnt even valid because you have to stop it in the middle to not lose on time

so in reality it looks like its x10 times slower

but you cant really use that time without iterative deepening anyways

[rigid snow]

wow is this chat dead

it's over pack it up

[tender river]

[obsidian mantle]

alright i guess i'll wrap this alpha beta whatever i did into 1k tokens and then go scout my old bot a little maybe i can find a way to improve it with all my gained experience

sounds like a plan

[lost hill]

It always looks like a dev blog. I wish it was a forum and not a channel so that we could track these discretely but at least people can ask for help or feedback and get it relatively fast

[amber fractal]

We have #1336777692070023271 but it has to strictly be neuro related, nothing for general programming

[trim valve]

I don't think a lot of the regulars would vibe with it if it was a forum

at the very least I don't think I would

[amber fractal]

Honestly, same here. Took a bit of time to think on this, but it'd just feel more isolating than just a single chat. Sure some of it is blogs, but also a lot of memes and just a place to chat.

[lost hill]

Why not both then? Programming general for memes, help and one-off feedback; and a programming projects forum with regularly updating threads

It will declutter the discussion also

[amber fractal]

Because that'd be an extra channel to check, and honestly. A new chatter came in the past and tried to propose it to mods; they got denied because they aren't interested in expending the dev community

[lost hill]

Oh well, it would be brilliant but I suppose #programming was more of a fun addition than substance for Vedal then

[amber fractal]

He'd only want the neuro related stuff to have stuff because he can use them. Anything else not even I could see a reason he'd want them.

[lost hill]

Just to host a community is enough of a reason. This chat is essentially Stack Overflow without the toxic forum culture rn, and it does nothing but good for all those who just want to build a small app or a niche proof of concept without any intentions for a big release.

So it's not a completely alien idea to expand on it, but if we lack mod resources then nothing can be done about it. It's better to have no platform than an unregulated platform; otherwise I may just log onto an imageboard like Kiwi Farms or Sharty this very instance and try ‘asking for help there’.

[amber fractal]

I honestly see nothing good out of forums, they'd still be isolated and if you were trying to connect them it'd look no different from self promotion. If you want people to be aware of your project, of course you link to it.
The issue that I have is how fast that scales, and at what point it just becomes a soulless message board with a new purpose of promoting projects, and fragmenting what few people we have here.

[lost hill]

Ic how it could turn this way. It's a very valid concern.

I, on the other hand, am mostly looking at another successful forum (#1336777692070023271 ) and just applying the idea of how nice and cosy it would look like.

Either could be true, but it's irrelevant if no-one moderates it. It will become a spamming platform before a self-promotion one without any mods patrolling it.

[amber fractal]

I'm not one to say how often mods are here, I have my opinions but it ultimately isn't a point I'm using for argument. But what I will say is that you'll need the consent of the chatters here otherwise it will fail, and I have a feeling not many of them agree with your stance.

I'm of the point that it is nice and cozy as is, and anything more to spread out could easily hurt that vibe.
I Agree to disagree

[keen hatch]

https://github.com/karpathy/nanochat/discussions/1

[modern gulch]

Less is More: Recursive Reasoning with Tiny Networks

https://arxiv.org/html/2510.04871v1

Reminds me of this

[patent shard]

#neurotic-neurons message holy shit, that's so good

it is a tad noisy

#programming message this is mine by comparison, but I didn't do the fancy stuff they did

[nocturne olive]

My PC just hard-reset
I would like to know why

[nocturne olive]

Just what you get when you have the instrumental on-hand

[patent shard]

I wonder if you could potentially get better results by making a song an instrumental (that doesn't have one) first, though

maybe too much loss

[nocturne olive]

You'd need to reproduce the exact same settings with the exact same instrumentals and plugins to get good results

The way that technique works is essentially you apply a reversed copy of the instrumental, and adding the waves together negates them

Reversed as in vertical

Not horizonally reversed

[patent shard]

ah, yeah, it'd need to be a true instrumental to work better than just a pure vocal extraction

only thing phase worth doing without a true instrumental is a phase fixer with two models, but I haven't had luck with that

and that's to reduce noise, so you can use a fuller model and then denoise it and can potentially get a better result

[balmy nacelle]

Need UI help, this is my game's UI screen rn right, when you hover a tower in the tower shop panel on the left where should the description pop up? To the right of the panel? Below it? And how big should the description panel be?

desc would be smth like

Arrow Tower
500G
Fast firing, medium range single target damage.
Hp: 150
Damage: 20
Aspd: 0.4
Range: 6 

Or should i just have it be relative to where the mouse is at while hovering etc

[trim valve]

thank you rescuezilla

"boot into windows and run fsck"

😭

monka

[opaque sigil]

Huh what happened

Usb drive ded?

[trim valve]

hdd

[opaque sigil]

What I meant, words are hard

[trim valve]

tl;dr if I read from it wrong it then it goes to 100% active time

[opaque sigil]

Uhhhhh

[trim valve]

it's on an external mount atm

[opaque sigil]

What does "read from it wrong" mean here

[trim valve]

no idea

[opaque sigil]

Like certain files?

[trim valve]

it's a mystery to me too

no idea

I think so?

it's either specific files or reading too fast

[opaque sigil]

If you haven't checked for bad sectors yet you might wanna do that

[trim valve]

how does one

[opaque sigil]

Uhhhh

Actually idk if windows's disk management thingy does it but there's definitely third party software, surely one of them is free

I use aomei's partition assistant for all this stuff on windows but it's paid so idk

[trim valve]

damn chkdsk makes it very unhappy too

[opaque sigil]

Oh chkdsk does this

Yeah figured

[trim valve]

joy

I'll probably see if I can convince Linux to be happier with it later

and by later I mean tomorrow probably

[opaque sigil]

ntfs3 my beloved

[trim valve]

also there is a dubious ssd being backed up

somehow only reading at 33MB/s

on video files that are several gigabytes big

[opaque sigil]

Checked Crystaldiskinfo yet?

Unless it doesn't have any smart info I guess

Actually

If it's backing up the SSD to the HDD that would kind of check out speed wise

Obviously 33MB/s for a hard drive is still terrible

[trim valve]

nah

the ssd is unrelated

I'm also trying to back up both

ssd is hilariously slow

considering I was hitting gigabit writes to the backup share earlier

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

idk why but slow drives always make windows chug for me

surely nothing is wrong

chkdsk has given up on giving me an estimate

[opaque sigil]

Slow drive is slow nowaying

[trim valve]

most hilariously my laptop has been sacrificed because a job I thought would take 4 hours max is taking 15

[opaque sigil]

Hopefully it's just some bad sectors in the end

Easy enough thing to fix

[trim valve]

"in the end"

wishful thinking assuming there is an end

it's such a pain that this stops me from doing a disk dump

something somewhere in the chain is trying to be helpful

[rigid snow]

windows is just especially bad with slow drives

feels like every interaction requires loading 50mb

[trim valve]

explode

can I just dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/nas/out.img or will something explode

[opaque sigil]

Assuming those are different drives and sda is unmounted should be fine

Though you might want to increase the block size unless you want to wait 3 business days

[trim valve]

it might be mounted but nothing will be using it

I don't think it's mounted?

[trim valve]

read 3 gigs then died

I/o error my beloved

time to do a bad sector check

or well let smart do it's thing

[trim valve]

I finally caught it btw

92 power on hours glueless

wait no

I am illiterate

6000 hours

whoops

allegedly my SSD has 28000 hours

wait no that's not my personal one that's the society one thank god

[opaque sigil]

Interesting that it claims there have been uncorrectable sectors at some point but then it also says no sectors have been moved

[umbral thorn]

[rigid timber]

[olive sable]

Gooooodmorning

Its 4am

I overcorrected

[olive sable]

The price of nitro basic has gone up to 36 per year, it was 30 not even a week ago

[gritty dust]

Morning

[paper creek]

Not horizonally reversed

[gritty dust]

damn

[olive sable]

Morning

[gritty dust]

?

[gritty dust]

Hru

[olive sable]

Gud

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-rat-pink-piggy-party-gif-2246170506202764817

[gritty dust]

yes sir lol

[gritty dust]

make a horizontally spinning vedal smh

anyways gn Sam I'll cya tmr

[paper creek]

Though you might want to increase the block size unless you want to wait 3 business days

[olive sable]

The block size of what?

[graceful pasture]

ntfs3 my beloved

[glad path]

smh

[olive sable]

we have horizontlly spinning vedals

i jsut cant be bothered to make a gif

[uneven pulsar]

?

[amber fractal]

The real part of this is not bothering to add music to it

[opaque sigil]

Whoever runs @graceful pasture and @paper creek should at least make up their own messages

[olive sable]

i have blender open on my main monitor

[uneven pulsar]

O my god
Bro came with army

[olive sable]

opening obs was already more than enough effort

[uneven pulsar]

Hmmm

[opaque sigil]

@open copper I think you might be interested idk

[violet sand]

Hi I need to run Voxtral mini ai model, for transcribing live audio to text. I'm coding in rust, and I was just interested how dificult would it be for me to launch the model directly from rust, instead of using python?

I'm having dificulties finding material on the topic of running .safetensors files directly without a use of some lib. that supports running the model directly

[opaque sigil]

The problem is that safetensor files on their own are kind of useless

They only store the tensor data, you still need a mapping of that to an actual model

[violet sand]

Ahh, ya I would assume I could reimpliment it myself, I'm just not sure how much efford it will take.
This is the model: https://huggingface.co/mistralai/Voxtral-Mini-3B-2507

[uneven pulsar]

I HATE MATRIX

[opaque sigil]

I wouldn't bother tbh, you'd need to write an entire inference platform

[uneven pulsar]

I WON'T DO AGAIN IN 4D

[violet sand]

Lol, now I'm interested whats the backstory?

[violet sand]

Alright noted thanks

[uneven pulsar]

I was testing 4d
X y and z what after 4d demension

[opaque sigil]

w

[uneven pulsar]

Matrix cracked
, graphic out of control
(X and y and z = one side ⬆️↗️➡️↘️ ⬇️)

[opaque sigil]

What do you need 4d matrices for anyway

[lethal drift]

[lost hill]

Are you asking chat what's the fourth axis?

[uneven pulsar]

Yes

Physics simulation

[lost hill]

Traditionally, it's XYZ for three-dimensional spaces and UVW for other concepts. So you could have XYZU for a purely abstract projection.

If you're a proponent of a time-space physical simulation, then time is the fourth axis. It's traditionally represented with T.

Otherwise, whatever software you use may already have a variable pre-defined

[stray dragon]

W to represent the 4th dimension is more common

[uneven pulsar]

What I thought but I don't have enough information to prove they 4d exists

[stray dragon]

i mean, you can use W to represent other things for physics

like density

[uneven pulsar]

4 d start out of graph maybe thinks

[amber fractal]

Totally unrelated to the names, are the pfps of the same person but diffrent angles?

[opaque sigil]

I don't think so, different hair colour

[nocturne olive]

Drive dead or disconnected

That happened on my 8TB drive once and it was a loose cable connection

[uneven pulsar]

I just hit limits

[nocturne olive]

On what?

[uneven pulsar]

Equation is soo hard it feel like unsolveable

[opaque sigil]

inbefore it is unsolvable

[worldly plank]

Is there a way to resolve a domain name to the ip address of another domain name? (for example, have x.com resolved as whatever the current ip address of xcancel.com is?)

[obsidian mantle]

How does it even work

These additional domains

Is it like dns proxy?

[nocturne olive]

Can't you just add an entry in the hosts file like x.com xcancel.com?

[obsidian mantle]

I thought the question was about how to find x.com through xcancel.com

[olive sable]

In a shader, the 4th one is depth

[obsidian mantle]

To see that its actually a mirror

[opaque sigil]

Hosts file only does IP <-> domain

[worldly plank]

Doesn't that require the original ip as well? (which means you have to change it every so often)

[opaque sigil]

Your best bet is something that auto redirects in the browser

There are extensions for this

[green iron]

any recommendations for SVS project with finetune instructions avaivable? as far as i can see espnet is the best looking one

[nocturne olive]

SVS? You wanna vocal synthesizer?

Do you have a specific voice in mind already?

[green iron]

yes, not much training data though unless i would be able to somehow synthesize it from a normal speech samples

[nocturne olive]

Well there is RVC to SVS distillation

Though known to not be that amazing

This is done using RVC -> SVS distillation

Though I'm also working on making a real proper dataset, labelling takes ages

Do note that you are expected to have quite a bit of GPU power available

But yeah this arch is pretty good

Don't try to compete with NeuroSynthProject though, Neuro and Evil are my SVS

Well they're mine now anyway

[nocturne olive]

What is that reaction supposed to mean?

[green iron]

jk, i want it for shitposting

[nocturne olive]

I assume you're trying of some random voice you found an already formatted SVS dataset for

[green iron]

no, i was kinda hoping there's a way to finetune some base model to the target voice with a self-made small dataset. Unless no and that's not how the typical ai cover shitposts with modified lyrics are being made?

[nocturne olive]

Ohhhhhhhhh you want RVC

You want this tech

It's trained using just voice data, no need for labels
The input is an existing vocal
THAT is what those very badly made AI covers use

I see what you're looking for

That's so easy to do

[green iron]

i thought RVC can only convert the voice, but not change the lyrics

[nocturne olive]

Ohhh

You want to change lyrics

Well that's not as easy but you can still do it with RVC + an existing synthesizer

You could achieve the base with UTAU, or a machine learning alternative for higher quality

Then RVC on top

That is how this was made

So you want this right?

[green iron]

i'm looking for something like this cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_x5aY2-_FM

[nocturne olive]

Didn't embed

[nocturne olive]

Oh Drive

That's done by the person singing with a very terrible RVC model on top

It's the author singing their own base

[green iron]

damn thats neat. Sorry for the XY rant

[nocturne olive]

Yeah it's pretty silly

And it makes for a very horribly bad voice output

It would definitely have been better with my model but unfortunately they didn't use it

But yeah that's how Drive was done

Now you know

If you'd like help training models, let me know

I do quite a bit of that

[uneven pulsar]

return memberObj.voice?.channelId || null;

Key value :!

[olive mango]

[obsidian mantle]

voice?

:!

[hoary lion]

[flint dome]

does anyone have a vmware or kvm/qemu hardner so that the secure browser variations cant detect vm

stupid test service wouldnt accept list.append() as a valid python method

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-gif-24525483

[uneven pulsar]

Here is my information

( I'm useless guy who wants gta 5 on my pc but my pc is on has ended even hhd is damaged
(2gb ram
500 gb hhd
I3 )

Sadly I really working on phone to code and working on Google colab to run code and save in local file )

[clear sedge]

2gb of ram

fam you're fucked

[olive sable]

If the ps3 can run gta5 (badly) on 256mb, then you should be able to do it mildly well on 2gb

On low settings

1080p 30fps

maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq4feAJqehw

that video is about vram but still an interesting video

actually on integrated graphics sharing that 2gb ram you'll probably need to do 720p or maybe even less

[slender timber]

2 gb ram my windows is hogging 6 on its own

[olive sable]

just dont use windows then

im pretty sure windows uses less if there's less available tho, so in reality it hsoudl be fine-ish

[uneven pulsar]

Yo !

[maiden geyser]

is it newly installed 11 or with revios/atlas at least

[slender timber]

Just updated to 11 yeah

[maiden geyser]

"updated" != "newly installed"

mine takes 3.5 with revi

[slender timber]

Does it consume more the more ram i have

[maiden geyser]

heard revios people say it does

[nocturne olive]

Windows 10 and also 11 do in fact consume more RAM if more is available

I don't recommend using Windows these days

[slender timber]

I need it for my job

[nocturne olive]

Silly

How about a sensible job so you don't have to Windows?

[gritty dust]

yee it does

[opaque sigil]

I should make a "unused memory is wasted memory" sign to tap

[maiden geyser]

"if those kids could read they'd be very upset"

[olive sable]

we love using 64Gb of ram just for the sake of it

but ye i do agree

caching is based

[manic jacinth]

Extremely fascinating paper on using an LLM to build Expert Systems via generating Prolog facts: https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.13550v1

[vale python]

programmersss

i wanted to share one of my favorite features in gaming

procedural animation

i wish more games utilized it more

[trim spire]

I'm looking at running my own LM for a hobby project really. I'm kind of torn between using a pre existing base model or training one entirely from scratch, I don't know much about programming in general it's mostly a hobby thing I've picked up but I found some interesting projects on training LM's from scratch. I think where I'm torn is that it's kind of funny when an AI isn't super intelligent. That's what I'm partially annoyed by with the OpenAI API