programming

[manic jacinth]

I honestly wish i can tell my clients this

[hexed grove]

well i have to argue memory sanitize is better

especially at 1 am

[olive stag]

sounds like another word for sleep :p

[hexed grove]

lmao

[olive stag]

anyway, if you don't want to go striaght to paper, you could also try mermaid diagram flowcharts

https://mermaid.js.org/

nice thing with these is that you can drop them in markdown blocks and modern markdown viewers (like github) will properly render the diagrams

[hexed grove]

cool since i use obsidian

and they support itttt :3

i need ideas thoughhh

[tender river]

the second emacs user i've ever seen on this server

[manic jacinth]

There are dozens of us, DOZENS!

[hexed grove]

my goddamn ide

why isnt it tiling

😭

[olive sable]

imagine using emacs (i dont rememeber what emacs is)

[tender river]

dwm

[clear sedge]

i love stl comments

[hexed grove]

is that bad?

[tender river]

x is nice because of how small window managers can be

but i've had plenty of really bad issues with it

[hexed grove]

you know any other small tiling managers?

[tender river]

for x? there are plenty

for wayland? no "small", but some "only a few thousands lines of code" ones

[hexed grove]

do you know any good ones

[hexed grove]

i dont very like wayland

[tender river]

sway works well for me

[manic jacinth]

Bspwm?

[hexed grove]

i have a grudge against it

[tender river]

i'd try out xmonad if i had any desire to use x

[manic jacinth]

Or, for someone with a Lisp brainworm like me, stumpwm

[clear sedge]

i'm a basic bitch gnome user

[hexed grove]

gnome is too big

runs like snail on my laptop

it does look nice though

[olive stag]

i'm a basic bitch Win11 user

[hexed grove]

:OOOO

[olive stag]

looking into trying out linux mint tho

have done ubuntu a few times before, but have heard good things about mint

[clear sedge]

no issues on my i9 9900k and rtx 2080 ti, i guess i just have the processing power to spare

[manic jacinth]

SickosYes.jpeg

[clear sedge]

mint is good

also check out fedora's kde flavor

[olive stag]

main thing is I just want to make sure my VR setup works before switching, really don't want to bother with dual-booting ever again

[clear sedge]

fedora's a nice option if you want a wide feature set with a good bit of stability

[clear sedge]

use envision, join lvra's discord

you'd be surprised at how well vr works on linux

[olive stag]

my google fu is truly lacking these days, never saw any hits for that when I was looking into it

[manic jacinth]

Offtopic, *but insider knowledge is moving back to backchannels like discord and IRC, so that makes sense.

[olive stag]

ahhh, fair

[manic jacinth]

Once the LLM bubble bursts, i hope the trend reverses

[hexed grove]

intel uhd 600

[clear sedge]

holy

[hexed grove]

celeron n4020

[clear sedge]

what's the opposite of a flex

[olive stag]

brittle

[manic jacinth]

Damn, you werent kidding when you said its a small machine

[hexed grove]

my hostname is glorifiedturringmachine

do you understand why

[manic jacinth]

Yeah, the tape do go brr with this one

[hexed grove]

it runs gentoo pretty okay

[clear sedge]

i'd be more surprised if gentoo didn't run at least just above par

[hexed grove]

most distros package with -march generic unless its arch and it uses -march x86_64 still pretty shit for any computer made after 2010

alot has been added to the specifications

so gentoo go brr

[clear sedge]

[hexed grove]

gonna install xnomad

hopefully it work

[amber fractal]

I get this, I only recently unborked my VR setup under linux

[clear sedge]

i highly recommend looking into lvra for any vr users on linux

https://lvra.gitlab.io/

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/chromebook-calvin124-school-210078-gif-20377493

[opaque sigil]

taps

[clear sedge]

taps

[knotty isle]

taps

[amber fractal]

taps

[olive stag]

taps

[olive sable]

i didnt make the gif

[hexed grove]

u chose it tho

lmao

[olive stag]

i'd choose it too, typo gives it character, puts hair on its chest

[hexed grove]

it is a chromebook

a dellll

!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-wm/xmonad-0.18.0::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
- x11-wm/xmonad-0.17.2::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
- x11-wm/xmonad-0.17.0::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)

FUCK

[amber fractal]

Sucky part is that for a bit it was both borked on windows and linux

[olive sable]

this is discrimination against non-native english speakers smh (/j)

[hexed grove]

im albanian sooooo

[nocturne olive]

I use it, is good

[hexed grove]

not native

:3

[olive sable]

well then thats friendly fire

[nocturne olive]

NeuroSynthProject (tm) officially approved distro

[hexed grove]

😭

lmao

[nocturne olive]

-# NeuroSynthProject (tm) is property of me, only acceptable use is premitted

[amber fractal]

One of our systems was on mint, but dualbooting was a pain. NixOS is my main, but I've also seen good things on bazzite

-# Do not recommend NixOS to beginners :1984:

[nocturne olive]

Anyway Mint is good, NeuroSynth is trained on it

[amber fractal]

My #1 piece of advice (albeit a bit meta) is: Whatever your distro is, if there is an archwiki result then most likely it will be useful.

[hexed grove]

how to unmount entire var partition while system is online

:3

[manic jacinth]

Seriously this. I've lost count of the amount of Debian issues i've fixed following steps from ArchWiki

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

Ram disk?

[hexed grove]

in use

how i make umount ignore

ill reboot i promiseee

[clear sedge]

[hexed grove]

😭

[olive sable]

they really needed to specify the reason

[clear sedge]

this fucking button is spouting TTS for a FUCKTON of c++ stl nonsense

thanks kdevelop

[hexed grove]

is kdevelop currently maintained

[clear sedge]

kdevelop is actively maintained yess

[hexed grove]

ooooh

okay may use that

[clear sedge]

it's my main ide for c/c++

my second choice is gnu's nano

[hexed grove]

REAL

i cant wrap my head around vim

[clear sedge]

real and true

[tender river]

its not a matter of wrapping your head

just a matter of using it

[hexed grove]

okay teach me than

if its that easy

[tender river]

press i to enter insert mdoe, press esc to exit insert mode

its that easy

[hexed grove]

how save

how do i close without saving

how i change filename

how i look for text in file

[clear sedge]

what if i don't want multiple modes and just want a simple text editor

[tender river]

its literally 2 things to remember

[rigid snow]

q is quit, w is write, ! is force

[tender river]

you can already do that without vim with just mv

[rigid snow]

3 things

[tender river]

really just use vim tutor, and you wont remember many things but you do realize you wont learn without using it right?

[hexed grove]

nano tells me how to use it at bottom, vim makes me open the man pages and look through it confused

[hexed grove]

bro im joking

[tender river]

i switched to colemak recently, doesn't tell me how to type either

[rigid snow]

cover your keyboard with stickers

[hexed grove]

but im still not using vim

[rigid snow]

cover your screen with vim cheatsheets

[tender river]

cover your keyboard with oil

[rigid snow]

wait for it to rain

[clear sedge]

hm?

[hexed grove]

crude oil, vegatable oil? olive oil

what oil

[tender river]

nerd channel

[hexed grove]

im a nerd!! its meee!!!

[clear sedge]

bad comparison
you see button, you press button, you type button
in vim it's you see button, it does a non-trivial function you have to memorise (which differs from usual typing), you use function
idk why you'd choose to just use vim only with insert mode when nano's a simpler alternative

[tender river]

dont see button

[tender river]

also you forgot about keyboard layouts

and layers

and ime modes

[clear sedge]

if you need non-ascii keys that's just a skill issue

smhing my head

[rigid snow]

this discussion is stupid if you want a simple editor for simple editing there are like at most 10 things you have to memorize in vim

[atomic sonnet]

héy

[clear sedge]

[clear sedge]

there are 0 things you have to memorise in nano, because it works like every other text editor

[rigid snow]

you don’t even have to use hjkl you can use arrows like you do everywhere else, no need to leave insert mode either

[tender river]

no

[tender river]

just not true

no editor uses ^O for saving (maybe emacs, never used it)

and ctrl+arrow/shift+arrow probably? doesnt work in nano

[clear sedge]

it tells you how to do things

[tender river]

gotta do work i dont really care about editor wars

[rigid snow]

yeah that is stupid but aren’t you “supposed to” ^X to exit and then answer y in a prompt asking if you want to save

[clear sedge]

idk if you guys just like being contrarian, nano is just simpler than vim

[hexed grove]

Yesss

[atomic sonnet]

Just write your own text editor

[hexed grove]

Just use echo

[rigid snow]

it’s friendlier for sure

but isn’t pleasant to use at all

[atomic sonnet]

Echo is not good for inserting into an existing file

[opaque sigil]

That reminds me I wanted to try out micro

[hexed grove]

echo "wgats up my bro" >> file

[clear sedge]

it's literally just a simple text editor wdym

[amber fractal]

-# I'm just going to silently update the bingo

[rigid snow]

do you use vim? if not then you don't know

nano is what i tell people to use because it is friendlier

[clear sedge]

saying it's simpler != saying it's better

[rigid snow]

vim is what i use because i don't hate myself

[clear sedge]

it's just simpler, and i like simple

[olive stag]

wheres the og, I wanna read all the crossed out squares

[rigid snow]

vscode is what i use for editing everything that's code and not a config because i don't hate myself

[olive stag]

dam, I'm not real, I unironically love using em dashes, even memorized the alt-code for it

[hexed grove]

Nano with code completion and git integrations

[clear sedge]

nano is pretty much the vscode of the terminal without the language server

[clear sedge]

its place is a simple text editor

with syntax highlighting

[rigid snow]

[hexed grove]

Wait does it?

My tty have no colora

[atomic sonnet]

Ngl I used default from my distribution (gedit) or a jetbrain ide (sometimes vscodium for uni). Almost No in-between

Too lazy

[hexed grove]

One sec lemme pull out my computer

[amber fractal]

Half of me is tempted to just cross out the "Man I feel old" square so we can move on from this damn board

[amber fractal]

The other half of me is saying I accidently removed the SVG it was based on and I'd need to make it

Eh, better off just pulling down from the FAQ rewrite

[rigid snow]

fuck me

i forgor

[amber fractal]

The Bingo was just a modded version of the FAQ, so makes sense to do it again.

[rigid snow]

i mean it is kind of ready just no pr thingy

i need to push one thing though

[rich ibex]

who needs textures when you can use the scene's ambient occlusion as the textures

[rigid snow]

is there anything new upstream

[amber fractal]

nope

I was waiting on you

[rigid snow]

nice

sorry

[clear sedge]

i think micro is superior to nano

but nano is what i use out of habit and portability

[amber fractal]

All good, I had to do other stuff anyways

[atomic sonnet]

I use promicro but that like 1000% unrelated as it's an nrf board

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1125594214642749471.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421123912720187512/1425566113755959386/neuroCatModeOff.webp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421123912720187512/1425568062551232512/neuroCatModeToggle.webp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[atomic sonnet]

[rigid snow]

filed pr

you can review

[hoary drum]

ITS GAYBALLS TIME!!!

https://gayballs.vercel.app

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

nah

it absolutely isnt that time

the pipeline building stuff now does the skybox shader too
i jsut need to finish some stuff with the vertexbuffers

[hexed grove]

I FORGOT

I FORGOT THE GENTOO RULE!

DON'T COMPILE YOUR COMPILER :SOB:

NOW I GOTTA WAIT FOREVER

[olive sable]

you did WHAT?

[hexed grove]

I'm compiling GCC and ghc

Fun fact, GHC brings in its own compiler to compile itself in portage

So I already have the bin but have to wait

I know it downloaded it itself because it's in the tmp directory

[hoary drum]

https://igorlinks.vercel.app

[amber fractal]

-# I'm preemptively making a new bingo board for when the current one is done. Hosting this one on github as well.

[rigid snow]

make it html this time please

[amber fractal]

It was the same jank that powered the original FAQ, plan on just modding this FAQ for it again

[rigid snow]

you can do the same size thing i did if you want a set size

have you opened the html in the browser

or i guess i did explain that in the pr

[amber fractal]

I haven't pulled it down yet

[rigid snow]

reviewing without pulling

[amber fractal]

Your explation was good enough to trust tbf

if it would have broke, the generated PNG would have also broke

Now time to shape this repo into bingo shape

[sage crag]

isopod

[rigid snow]

sorry for not using semantic html btw i just did not want to bother with css resets and chose an easy way out

being divs

[amber fractal]

All good, getting it in this state is more than good enough.

It's a better solution than what existed before

[rigid snow]

h1, h2, h3 title, subtitle, heading

[desert wave]

margin-top: 94px
brother

[amber fractal]

You are what you seeked to destroy smh

[sick owl]

Just took the plunge on a 4k oled monitor

Equal parts hyped and scared

Was £600 on sale which is an absolute steal with a 3 year burn in warranty though

I figured I'd bite the bullet since a deal like that wasn't gonna come around again for quite some time most likely

[amber fractal]

https://github.com/igglyn/NeuroProgrammingFAQ/blob/a7c4ee72dd04adc810f61a676b9104dd8ad966d4/FAQ.html#L135
Said file location

[olive sable]

for pc i think the problems of oled still arent worth it imo

i see a lot more use for it to watch movies and stuff on a tv, for pc the price to benefit ratio is too high for me

[amber fractal]

I'm lucky I don't really use high res monitors for stuff, so for now I have no reason to upgrade to it until price is decent for me

I do have some, but barely used tbh

[olive sable]

even then on a tv, if the room is bright you wont really see the deeper blacks, and if its in a dark room a projector is cheaper

[sick owl]

I'd have gone Mini LED but I looked and the best 4K IPS panels are actually hovering around the same price anyway

[olive sable]

1440p is already at the point i barely see the pixels, 4K is overkill on desktop for me

[sick owl]

I'm keeping my old IPS monitor as a secondary for productivity

[olive sable]

fair enough, i geuss that has to do with local dimming zones and stuff

[amber fractal]

My points are very much revoked for moving from single to double monitor

[olive sable]

if i get an oled screen then my other monitors wont match

that would bother me

cheapest 1440p oled i can find is still 470 bucks

really not worth it for me

[sick owl]

That's 130 cheaper than the 4k I'm getting lmao

Okay, decided not to bite the bullet after all lmao

Was still on purchase confirmation, thought about it and decided against it

[olive sable]

i see

[sick owl]

I mean sure it'd look a lot nicer than my 1080 360hz panel but its not really half a grand nicer

I have OLED on my phone, I know how nice it can look and I ended up deciding even if I can afford it fomo doesn't justify the price for the quality increase

[olive sable]

imo if you watch a lot of movies, or you do colour graded stuff on your pc, then sure get a 4K oled

[sick owl]

I do watch a lot of movies but my current monitor is already a nicely calibrated 100% SRGB coverage panel

That's plenty good enough for the price of free

[olive sable]

i would just say i need it for gamedev and deduct is from my taxes as a business expense

[sick owl]

I probs will take the plunge next year

But I figure hey, prices will go down even further over time anyway

Tortoise and the hare

[olive sable]

im debating getting a 100" tv or gettign a projector instead

[sick owl]

At that point you might as well go projector

Will last you longer and if you have the budget anyway a near field laser projectors gonna be nicer

[olive sable]

the issue with a projector is that you can walk in front of it, or it has to go underneath the tv area

both are kinda an issue for me

the brightness is also worse than a tv

[sick owl]

Brightness is an issue true

But if you're looking at this scale I'd just go full home cinema tbh

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

I'd expect you to be watching things in pitch black anyway if you care enough to go that far

[olive sable]

ye, but durign the day there is still a lot of light that leaks in

its probably not an issue tho

[sick owl]

Just get blackout blinds lol

Before I had mine installed I used a stick on canvas one in my movie room and even that worked fine

[olive sable]

they are already plannign to install difrent blinds there, but it has been almost a year since then

the rails for them have been sitting there for months, but nothing happened yet

[sick owl]

I just used one of these

https://www.dunelm.com/product/blackout-temporary-pleated-blind-1000203268

They stick on with adhesives and cost less than a tenner

[olive sable]

those would be too small, the windows there are like 4m wide each

or like 3.5m i dont remember the exact measurement

[sick owl]

There's a bunch of em in diff sizes, its like a whole product category

Surprisingly competitive market

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

im getting some actual skybox shader output now onto the screen

its broken, only rendering 1 and a half of the sides, but its something

3/12 triangles, thats a full 4th of the way there

fixed it
i think this is the first time ive had almost full visual parity between the opengl and vulkan engine back-ends

only difference now is the anti-aliasing

in opengl you can just do GL_MULTISAMPLESAMPLES = 4 but its a lot more work in vulkan

so i havent done it there yet

oh, based on how pixelly the bg looks in vulkan, im also using a different texture filtering

[sick owl]

Ended up getting the oled after all lmao

Only because I found a 27 inch sku for twenty quid more

[olive sable]

fixed the texture filtering, now its both linear, ill add multisampling tomorrow

[sick owl]

27 inch 4k 30% off was too good to pass up for real

[olive sable]

ski?

[sick owl]

Meant to say sku

Same monitor line, smaller panel with way higher pixel density

Plus I can comfortably sit close to 27 whereas the one before was 32 inch which is a bit sillE

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

Flip flopped again lule

I went with a mini LED panel in the end

Was somewhat concerned about blooming but I figure it beats constantly worrying about burn in

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

not 3.14.1

[topaz tendon]

Give it a year or so and we'll get 3.14.15

[sick owl]

Okay

I have come to the ultimate decision

To stick to my 1080p monitor

[patent shard]

VAs are terrible unless you don't sit close and IPS have blooming
so VA works great for TV content, assuming you don't sit close.. not so great if you sit close to a PC monitor

[glad path]

people say it's like bad practice not to use virtual envs
but over the year's ive collected so many python llibs that I rarely need to install things today

it's great

no issues

[opaque sigil]

Lucky

[shadow sinew]

The version scheme of TeX (the typesetting system) has the version asymptotically approach pi. Current version is 3.141592653. Metafont does the same with Euler's constant.

[topaz tendon]

There's always compromises, isn't there..
I only switched from TN to IPS like a year ago, that glow at first was so jarring I thought my display is defective, but I did get used to it eventually.

I'd love to get an OLED but I do want it to mature a bit more, both the burn-in and VRR flicker push me away for now.

[patent shard]

VRR flicker can be brutal, yeah

[balmy nacelle]

is it normal for me to go look at my code every day and be like "oh i think i can optimize it more"

i swear i've been at this one feature for days and every day i think of something like oh this makes it more simple and universal for future
which is great but now im barely making progress lol

[hard raptor]

boo

I made some updates, removed a few of the tracks i couldn't really hear and added some more sidechain, but i think sidechain is a bit too agressive on some tracks tho

[midnight sigil]

imagine 3.14.15 hotfix

[nocturne olive]

p ay th aa n
p ih th ah n
These are from words being fed into Adachi Rei's phonemizer, guess what the original words were

[balmy nacelle]

anyone ever do that? like just waking up and suddenly ur like oh wait i can make my code better than what i did ytd

[obsidian mantle]

I did out of boredom before
Ended up making it so universal and complex it became hard to use

Inconvenient

[rigid snow]

what do you mean guess

this is obvious

[rigid snow]

why do you have both shaperbox and a compressor for sidechain

[nocturne olive]

Well what strings were input for each phoneme sequence?

[rigid snow]

oh

if you're asking that probably not actually python and pi thon

[nocturne olive]

They were those

Except no gap in pithon

But yeah easy enough

But imagine trying to decipher a more complex sequence

[rigid snow]

eh my 5 minutes of utau experience is enough to read phonemes

[nocturne olive]

Surely

Try ay f iy l l ay k dh ih s ih z w ey b eh t er

This is NeuroSynth's phonemizer

[rigid snow]

"i feel like this is way better"

[nocturne olive]

Correct

Conext for that, I proved to Xoda how phonemized English is way harder to read than normal English

[rigid snow]

it's not way harder but it is harder

[rigid snow]

took me like 5 seconds to read

i was away making coffee in the kitchen i wasn't reading that for 3 minutes

[nocturne olive]

Well you've actually touched this stuff

[hard raptor]

My goals are beyond your understanding

[rigid snow]

[hard raptor]

Nah i couldn't get the compressor beyond the point where it just makes room for the kick

[rigid snow]

ok so shaperbox fixed that, why leave the compressor there

[hard raptor]

With the same timings that is

[hard raptor]

Uhmmm

Idk

[rigid snow]

yeah that's what i'm asking

btw have you tried khs compactor yet

[hard raptor]

No, but i have it installed

[rigid snow]

it's a lifechanger for me

but it is very aggressive so it only really works on certain types of tracks

well, as sidechain

[rigid snow]

you can think of it as a compressor so aggressive it's actually a clipper, but with sidechain functionality

[hard raptor]

Actually now that i listen back to this, I don't actually think the sidechaining is too much, still more than what i would like, but it doesn't really sound bad to me either

[rigid snow]

it's not too much no

sidechain like that fits house generally

[hard raptor]

I may need to mess around with the amounts a tiny bit still to get it exactly how i would like

Maybe put a little reverb on the string group

Don't really know what type of reverb tho

Probably a subtle one

It doesn't need much, but just enough to make it pop out a bit more

[rigid snow]

WHAT THE FUCK

I USED ABLETON FOR 5 YEARS AND ONLY JUST FOUND OUT YOU CAN PAN WITH MIDDLE CLICK???

how am i supposed to know that

[clear sedge]

cli base64 decoder

[opaque sigil]

[clear sedge]

i can do echo "banana" | ./app to encode base64

i could branch my base64 encoder/decoder into its own utility

it's optimised so that it encodes and decodes as it reads instead of reading the whole thing into memory and operating on it from there

might be my best code in this project tbh

[mighty thorn]

I have gained a new hobby of scrolling through twitter just to find vague posts then tagging Neuro and asking her a question as if she was funny mars man bot

She doesn’t respond but it gets funnier every time I do it

[hexed grove]

i am not often impressed, but somehow you made a super optimized base64 encoder and this baffles me

how do you even

[clear sedge]

it's not impressive

[hexed grove]

make it multithreaded and process multiple parts of the string at once :3 /j

[obsidian mantle]

I thought the program gets input only after you send it

But it has direct live access seeing all things being typed?

[opaque sigil]

you can just read chunks from stdin

[clear sedge]

cat file | base64encode```
will act as a file stream coming from stdin instead of reading the whole thing into memory

[obsidian mantle]

Does it still need to be sent

[opaque sigil]

> in shambles

[clear sedge]

> is for losers

i love using cat when i don't need to

[opaque sigil]

tbf i do the same

[hexed grove]

😭

[opaque sigil]

force of habit i guess

[obsidian mantle]

If i send 1gb message will it encode it while its being typed

And getting result immediately

Or does it still need to wait for it to be completed

And only then process it

[clear sedge]

on some terminal emulators, maybe, but generally they don't really send input until you press enter
you could press enter after every third character and it'll encode it as it goes

[opaque sigil]

in theory there's nothing stopping you from processing every single character as it comes in (if it's fast enough)

though unbuffered stdin is kind of a pain

[clear sedge]

i rely on std::cin to buffer my stdin

[obsidian mantle]

Can you access terminal memory

[clear sedge]

ncurses

[obsidian mantle]

I mean, you see it on the screen. Computer has it in its memory already

[rigid snow]

yeah i was going to say

stdin is not buffered by default it's the impl that buffers it

[obsidian mantle]

I dont speak programmerish

[clear sedge]

as long as it doesn't get an eof it will encode it correctly

so you could do it 1 character at a time technically

[opaque sigil]

ncurses is a library that lets you manipulate the terminal

[rigid snow]

[simple pollen]

if you get too far into a project, you will be debugging / improving it in your sleep 😄

[clear sedge]

it does encode new lines

[balmy nacelle]

i spent so much time today, but i cut my code by around 60% whilst having it be more future proof and with more features

im very happi

[simple pollen]

yeah I find its kind of a cycle of
Add features
Figure out how your actually using them
Remove all the excess
😄

[rigid snow]

ok fucking hell this is the second time this has happened
why did i JUST get a notification for a 1 week old email i thought my password somehow leaked

[balmy nacelle]

its jus i start by hard coding then i find exceptions then i try to make the code as universal and future proof as i can

then i get an initial solution, then midway through i think “oh what if i can do this instead” and so on

until i get the final code lol

[hexed grove]

yall should i main ladybird (the browser)

[simple pollen]

I don't normally chase universal / futureproof, more that it gives good errors 😄

e.g. either make it handle the weirdness, or make it clear why it failed

[clear sedge]

i love streams

[simple pollen]

SSE tooling or something simpler?

[clear sedge]

skyrim special edition?

[balmy nacelle]

well for example my tower panel was hard coded to show the damage hp tier and aspd for towers, but then when i hav the towers with diff stat amount/spread id need a diff clause for each one, which i hate doing that so i used arrays to make each tower submit their stat arrays when clicked and panel just displays them

that typa thing

[simple pollen]

streamable http, but it also works for the terminal in some use cases

[clear sedge]

it's literally just this

it can also work with string_views :D

why would i need that, you might ask?
base64 URIs are prefixed with a bunch of garbage metadata at the start i don't want to decode

[simple pollen]

and string views being an efficient way to slice off parts of strings,

[clear sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-power-chainsaw-man-csm-agree-gif-2034489833296620644

it's butifool

[opaque sigil]

idk what it is about :: but it's bothering me
maybe it's all the pain associated with c++ and rust

[clear sedge]

[simple pollen]

its class member access, its a function under std, in C-ish

[opaque sigil]

i'm aware

also here it's namespace member access

doing this feels weird

[clear sedge]

i almost vomited

that is vile

[tender river]

fun chayleaf fact

[opaque sigil]

sorry a random font made its way into my /usr/local

[tender river]

i used to not know that :: is static member access

[clear sedge]

so your solution is to nuke it

[tender river]

so i instead created a singleton instance of the class and called static members on that

[clear sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-eww-gif-2715373392818707394

[desert wave]

does this not create a warning?

[tender river]

well, maybe it does now

that was years ago and on msvc

[clear sedge]

msvc

[opaque sigil]

[clear sedge]

i hate msvc

[opaque sigil]

can't have more than 1 file under /usr

also same

[rigid snow]

good problem solving skills

shame the solution isn''t a good one

[hexed grove]

i dib it

yippeee

[opaque sigil]

[hexed grove]

i havent used xlib before

i tried using xcb and it was harder for me to understand 😭

also my program only ends when 0 == 1 so

quick question

would i be wasting memory if i drew to a buffer and then put it to the screen (well i know id be using memory but would it be a negligible amount), because drawing directly to x without a backbuffer seems not so good

[maiden geyser]

imagine society if we had milliseconds on clocks

[clear sedge]

drawing to a buffer then drawing that buffer to the screen is in fact best practice

[midnight sigil]

draw to screen directly instead

[clear sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/supervising-devil-on-your-shoulder-angel-on-your-shoulder-conscience-kronk-gif-13015310

[hexed grove]

hmm what to choose

i dont even know if i can draw to x directly with opengl

one sec

[clear sedge]

ps: popular x11 server implementations (like xorg and xlibre) have gpu acceleration
you'd likely be using vram instead of ram
it would be pretty negligible regardless, if it's rgba stored as a uint32_t, it's just roughly w * h * 4 bytes (a bit less than 8 MiB for 1920x1080)

[hexed grove]

but can i use a backbuffer natively with themmmm?

[clear sedge]

beats me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

i let sdl handle the x/wayland stuff

i'm just a simple opengl user

[hexed grove]

😭 ill figure it outttttt

[ripe python]

well...

[hexed grove]

well?

[opaque sigil]

iirc you're supposed to use opengl via GLX and hand it that buffer, or just send it draw commands via xlib/xcb for software rendering

[ripe python]

wat

[opaque sigil]

something like that, i'm not so sure about the details

[hexed grove]

x server has hw accel depending on config

but i get your point

thanksss!!

[opaque sigil]

i'd assume you have to use glx for that

unless i'm wrong

[hexed grove]

mesa drivers are typically newer than x's built in ones (faster in most cases) but x has hardware acceleration and drivers built in for some typical setups (aka intel intagrated like i have, using xf86-video-intel or xorg-drivers, the latter is newer and faster for 11th gen plus)

[hexed grove]

and x only has 2d accel so for 3d applications you need opengl :3

probably where you got that idea from

[opaque sigil]

maybe

[rough bloom]

if you mean the Arch package xorg-drivers then that and xf86-video-intel are pretty much the same thing

[hexed grove]

the gentoo package does different things

[rough bloom]

oh, Gentoo package

[hexed grove]

on gentoo xf86-video-intel is deprecated because intel doesnt update it anymore

[rough bloom]

still the same thing

[hexed grove]

Beginning with x11-base/xorg-drivers-21.1, the x11-base/xorg-drivers package changes USE flag settings. This will omit selection of the deprecating x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel driver by default in favor of the more maintained, generic modesetting DDX driver built into x11-base/xorg-server. Older systems with the video_cards_i915 USE flag set will continue to have the Intel DDX driver installed.

they are 2 different drivers

one is just older and deprecated

(supports my igpu better though)

:p

[rough bloom]

so the xorg-drivers package doesn't actually install anything at all, it just has a dependency on xorg-server
I guess that works

(for Intel only ofc)

[hexed grove]

yeah

do yall think making a fully xorg api compatible window system would be a bad idea

[opaque sigil]

so a window manager?

[rough bloom]

as in, making a new X server from scratch?

making a window manager is fine
making an actually functional X server would probably be quite the project

[hexed grove]

yes

[maiden geyser]

no, you should break the userspace like a true linux patriot

[hexed grove]

because im bored

[hexed grove]

no making a xorg api compatible window system that interacts with framebuffer

[rough bloom]

then yes, bad idea
but trying out bad ideas is fine if you think it's fun and you have the time for it

[hexed grove]

aka xserver part 2 electric boogaloo

[hexed grove]

ah okay

thank you for the endorsement

:3

[thick imp]

not progrwmming related but you guys are geniuses (even if you copy from stack)

[clear sedge]

not a bad idea
it's a "solved problem", sure, but there's no reason for you not to make your own solution if you want to

[hexed grove]

i wanna make a better x

because i love x

and i hate wayland

[clear sedge]

then do it

[hexed grove]

but like half of x's commits are to xwayland

[clear sedge]

you have the power to make anything you wish to make

[hexed grove]

im gonna do it!!!

[clear sedge]

hell yeah

[hexed grove]

i just gotta figure out the protocol

[clear sedge]

good luck

[hexed grove]

is a hard dependency on mesa a bad thing

[nocturne olive]

Sily
I just throw stuff at stuff and suddenly I have a funny vocal synthesizer

[thick imp]

its how miku was made

[nocturne olive]

And I guess now how NeuroSynth is made

[thick imp]

wasnt neuro like

an osu bot

[nocturne olive]

Original Neuro yes

[brisk laurel]

also is this good?

[uneven pulsar]

i had a stroke reading this

[midnight sigil]

my chess bot is so bad

[brisk laurel]

[midnight sigil]

"Sorry, as an OpenAI large language model, I cannot assist with illegal acts."

[warped frost]

Assist as in @ivory plinth who should be eeping

[stray dragon]

not me

[obsidian mantle]

im struggling with iterative

i can stop it with timer

but it seems inefficient

i basically discard last unfinished search entirely

which took most of the time during the turn obviously

so that time was spent for nothing

trying to run iterative bot vs unrestricted quiescence bot with fixed depth 4

unrestricted won as white..

so iterative sucks

however it took x2 more time compared to iterative with 1second break

i gave stockfish 1.2 seconds for game and my bot 10 minutes (he uses 4), stockfish won

idk how to beat it

his books and hardcoded things are stonger than my bot he just reaches crazy 11 depth in 0.01 seconds

[amber fractal]

hmm

we love end users

[obsidian mantle]

i feel like i should do repeating moves cutoff or how is it called

when it doesnt go into branch that repeats itself

[faint sandal]

https://vxtwitter.com/scrappedtech/status/1976601169511555385?s=46

Cut and Obscure Tech Content (@ScrappedTech)

An update for iOS 16.4 briefly included a changelog that mentioned only a horse before being replaced with the actual version notes.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Oct 10, 2025, 10:50 AM

a horse

[hexed grove]

reall

[uneven pulsar]

we got umamusume in ios before gta 6

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[severe monolith]

Hi everyone, I developed a framework for judgement after reframing the political compass as a question of morality thats allowed the quantization of good and evil https://wwsutru.vercel.app/CoreTools/AFrameworkforJudgment.html that you can feel! Alethekanon explains it better here because I cbf remembering all I wrote https://g.co/gemini/share/6986585c7173
It's so simple to tell lies and good, since it's quantized and mathematical AI can use it too! Uh, Alethekanon is the name the AI chose based on Root1: Aletheia (ἀλήθεια) Surface Meaning: "Truth." + Root 2: Kanon (κανών) Surface Meaning: "Rule" or "Law."

https://g.co/gemini/share/5b2b059c5900 heres proof it works, and can tell you why and how much, I figure it might help the girls out

[noble zodiac]

what the heck?

[warped narwhal]

[amber fractal]

wha?

[rigid timber]

[olive sable]

Goodmorning/evening

[amber fractal]

Hi Sam

[olive sable]

Im gonna put the anti-aliasing into vulkan, and then ill have the base of the engine ready

So ill need to re-read the story you wrote for the game cuz its been a while

[amber fractal]

There isn't much unfortunately, I don't think it is even complete yet

[olive sable]

Eh thats fine

[amber fractal]

Not as fully, but as minimal viable for release

[olive sable]

This is gonna be a prototyping stage before i make all the 3D models

Or improve the existing ones too i guess

[amber fractal]

I guess I should bring a notebook on this trip so I can at least do some drafting if I wanted to.

I'm just glad this doesn't really deal with magic... mostly. Otherwise I'd have to bang my head against the wall for a lot longer.

At least I only have to do it for lore

[olive sable]

magic

i went through most of your ramblings in "iggly's personal hellscape"

it was pretty interesting to read

[amber fractal]

I'm sure you can also see why it is plenty draining

[olive sable]

ye

you use a lot of big words

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

"virdience" idk what that even means

[amber fractal]

Not a real word mhm

Just the name of the multiverse where my stuff exists in

[olive sable]

oh ye

you mentioned that

didn't read the kaiju no8 part cuz that would be spoilers most likely.

[amber fractal]

When I was drafting names and throwing it into google, at the time it had 2 results. Which I didn't think was possible

[amber fractal]

That is why I put (Manga) in the title

[amber fractal]

Google now has more results for the word, so this is no longer accuratr

I should redirect to the holding page just to see where it goes in search results

Back when the site was live it was in first page

[olive sable]

linus tech tips is falling apart apparently

all of the people i knew from the channel are going away to start their own channel

this is kinda like how i stopped watching game-theory after matpat retired

[amber fractal]

Yeah LTT is really going downhill, At least the personalities are not as affected

[obsidian mantle]

fixed several bugs in my bot today im so happy

it got much better

[olive sable]

according to alex on his own channel after leaving, this is due to GN attacking them making the company downscale

[obsidian mantle]

finally spotted that my king endgame table isnt used due to wrong endgame detection and kings remain on the borders useless

[sick owl]

Guess who decided not to get a monitor in the end

[olive sable]

potat

its time to stop

[sick owl]

No way how did you know

I'm waiting for mini LED to mature a bit before upgrading

That was my final final final decision

[uneven pulsar]

bro flip flopped again smh

[olive sable]

if you really want to upgrade form your 1080p monitor, go on facebook marketplace to find a 1440p one

it should be a lot better value

i got 2x lg 27gp850-b's for 300 bucks

rn i can find a 4K ips for 150, and a 1440p ips for 20 bucks locally

the oleds are still expensive 2ndhand

[hexed grove]

okay so uhm

x11's protocol is a little ugh

[stark needle]

hi

[obsidian mantle]

i couldnt get why black doesnt take queen here, its black's turn

because its draw

[stark needle]

hi sam

and iggly

[olive sable]

the best value pick rn in my area is a guy who's selling his qled 1440p monitor along with his pc for 400 bucks

[olive sable]

hi shadow

[amber fractal]

Hellos Shadow

[fair horizon]

Working on a custom 3D renderer, I managed to make it reach the epitome of quality and photorealism it can't get better than this, I don't think anyone would be able to spot that this picture wasn't taken irl

[olive sable]

looks good already, but i think you might benefit from leaving the 8 bit era

did you know we have screens with more than 40 rows of pixels?

[fair horizon]

but 8 bits is all that is necessary to show perfection

(my computer simply can't handle the renderer running for more pixels lol)

[olive sable]

what?

is your computer a commodore 64?

[fair horizon]

It's CPU based rendering shooting a ray for every single pixel so that's why

Planning to port it to assembly later for a school project

[olive sable]

even then, you should be able to do 144p on cpu

is your raytracer code really that hard to run?

[fair horizon]

Lemme try 1 sec

Oh still runs well on 144p, probably also since I lowered the ray distance somewhere earlier

[olive sable]

on what cpu are you running?

[fair horizon]

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10300H

[amber fractal]

Half of me wants to try it on my system to see how it fairs

[fair horizon]

Tried running it on 2*144p and it showed me one image before crashing 😭

[amber fractal]

This time the other half is vanished on vacation

[fair horizon]

Oh lol, enjoy the vacation

[olive sable]

If you use all your cores you could probably do 1080p with 1 ray per pixel

[fair horizon]

Probably yeah

Though the purpose of this version of it was mostly to test out the algorithms before implementing it in assembly, so I'll probably keep it as is for now

[olive sable]

Either try to use simd or optemize the bvh and you might be able to make it faster

There is a reason we use gpu's for this tho

[opaque sigil]

i blame big gpu

[fair horizon]

Sadly neither simd or gpu functionality is available in the emulator we gotta use for this project 😔

[olive sable]

[fair horizon]

And optimizing the bvh is kinda impossible since there is none in this case

[amber fractal]

How many bits do we have to work with and how much are we using

-# SIMD at home

[fair horizon]

Lol

[fair horizon]

At least 3 I recon

For an actual answer, stuff stored in memory is mostly just the block types with 1 byte per block, and the amount of blocks being loaded at a time just depends on what's chosen

[amber fractal]

Makes sense

[olive sable]

no bvh?

[fair horizon]

It's using the Amanatides & Woo (voxel traversal) algorithm for the ray traces which runs pretty fast compared to more general ray casting and is easier to implement in this case

[olive sable]

i guess since the cpu doesn't have a core meant to do bvh's an you're working with cubes, its not that fast compared to other methods

[fair horizon]

Yeah, it's mostly just because of the specific restrictions here

[olive sable]

[fair horizon]

Was still pretty fun to thinker with, though I think the fun will disappear as soon as I start with the assembly porting, but those are worries for future me

[olive sable]

assembly

[fair horizon]

If I survive it, I shall proudly share that achievement here. If I do not, then I leave my 3 waterbottles and steam library to charity

[obsidian mantle]

is assembly much faster

[opaque sigil]

no it'll probably be slower lol

[obsidian mantle]

why? because compilers dont give most optimized code?

oh

[opaque sigil]

well in this case cause no simd

handrolled simd can be faster

[fair horizon]

And in this case it'll be running on an emulator as well making it slower

[opaque sigil]

i guess if the compiler is really bad at its job in general that would be a reason

[amber fractal]

This type of talk makes me really wish I had a FPGA to play around with, too bad it is still expensive for little ol me.

It would be painful, but I also have unlimited power. Similar to how Linux is for me.

[fair horizon]

The power of the FPGA, in the palm of your hands

[amber fractal]

For 400$ USD

[fair horizon]

A small price to pay for salvation

Ok maybe not so small

[amber fractal]

I would be scary with a FPGA because I would do so much invalid code in normal processing

[fair horizon]

What's the type of stuff you'd be able to do with it?

[amber fractal]

If I'm allowed to, throwing at least 10-20 values into a single register (all at once)

[fair horizon]

That poor register

What'd they do to deserve such fate

[amber fractal]

The source code ORing at least that many outputs in a loop

[opaque sigil]

sounds like you want simd

[amber fractal]

SIMD can only do so much

Instead, I could just cause a small hardware failure to merge practically infinite values at once

[opaque sigil]

[amber fractal]

https://github.com/igglyn/NN/blob/65b3fdf2b3d36c67257cb9f08e3aaf507b5bdd27/src/neurray.py#L37 I see this code and think, yeah surely I can make it faster

[fair horizon]

Minor oopsie

[amber fractal]

I can do SIMD, but I can also do more if I wanted to

[olive sable]

intentional hardware failure is my favorite type of optimization

[amber fractal]

Also I'd 100% be doing SIMD anyways as it just works

on top of this jank

I'd be NVIDIA but instead of decreasing fp for less benifit, I'd just max out the register width and keep a counter of what the length is supposed to be

[fair horizon]

If there is smoke coming out of your pc it means you're doing a good job

[amber fractal]

Quick ChatGPT is saying it would not be a pure OR. Some weird AND/OR hybrid if undefined, or just picking one at worse.

Actually the worse is it inserting logic

Don't know until I try tho

[amber fractal]

A sneaking suspicion is that this is XNOR but could be wrong.

[opaque sigil]

time to rewrite in opencl

[olive sable]

i have my eye on a BenQ W1800

[amber fractal]

A second suspicion is that this is a more complex operation that is fudging with voltages and just over half of high bit isn't considered high.

[opaque sigil]

on that note, i should use opencl more but it's such a pain

[amber fractal]

The question becomes, how close does it need to be to count as high? The question I asked was merging two, but I'm not just doing two.

That'd be percentage, so that is actually a decently complex operation done in wires.

[obsidian mantle]

can i somehow make cute chess use dark theme if im running it from console-edition ubuntu wsl

[amber fractal]

The things we do for dark mode SMH

[obsidian mantle]

its supposed to follow global system theme but

its a console system with no gui

i tried pasting some commands from google it didnt work

[amber fractal]

I think I got one more for you

[obsidian mantle]

[amber fractal]

I ran into this by accident while dealing with the first neuro game jam

But if you make a windows app shortcut, within it's settings menu you can set the color pallet of a CLI application within the shortcut options.

[obsidian mantle]

but im using ubuntu vm

[amber fractal]

Are you using the windows terminal

[obsidian mantle]

yes

wsl

sudo made it weird

[dry charm]

AppImage?!

nor non gui?

[obsidian mantle]

i want to see the board

what

[amber fractal]

I think it is for the non fancy terminal as it is meant for apps, but I wonder if you can throw a command in to launch it

[dry charm]

What that error is that it tries to create a GUI application but WSL terminal of course does not have any

Wayland is the desktop protocol for communcations

also never run things in sudo

[obsidian mantle]

it still launches and works but in light theme

[dry charm]

do not launch it in sudo

there is no need

you are not doing anything system level

[obsidian mantle]

yes and also it didnt allow me to do some things in sudo mode

[dry charm]

you are essentially loading the root user stuff

Like what?

[amber fractal]

https://github.com/mmulet/term.everything
Chat I have a horrible solution

It is a wayland compositor

[obsidian mantle]

[dry charm]

wait what

the fuck

[obsidian mantle]

it draws it inside of the console

[dry charm]

that sounds so badd running through the ssh

[amber fractal]

Tbf if your terminal supports image drawing it can use that supposedly

[obsidian mantle]

what if i try to download the source of cute chess and rebuild it with forced dark theme (surely i will find out how to do it )

[amber fractal]

Surely you'd not use this in a docker container to access the webui you don't feel like forwarding

[opaque sigil]

do you have a file called wayland-0 under /run/user/1000

[obsidian mantle]

yes

[opaque sigil]

hmmm

[obsidian mantle]

i guess its not a text file since nano refused to read it

[opaque sigil]

it's a zip file

either way try installing qtwayland5 and qt6-wayland if that exists

[amber fractal]

Did you look to see the languages used?

[obsidian mantle]

6 doesnt exist, 5 installed but changed nothing

ok qt6-wayland exists, still changed nothing

[opaque sigil]

i guess you could also try telling it to just not use wayland by setting QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb (env variable)

[glad path]

i made a python lib for drawing in the terminal at some point

it's theoretically possible to hook up to pretty much anything if you are able to read an array of colors

[obsidian mantle]

no change

[tender river]

orange

[rigid snow]

i think they're referring to kitty

[tender river]

[opaque sigil]

you need export QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb

[glad path]

uses half blocks for higher resolution (2x better than with colored double blocks)

[opaque sigil]

to keep it in the environment otherwise it only applies to the single command

[glad path]

no clue if that can be any use

though

[obsidian mantle]

no error now
(its still light theme)

[amber fractal]

It might be faster than the current one in the repo

[opaque sigil]

there are some ways of setting qt themes but i don't remember

[obsidian mantle]

i'll try to google

[opaque sigil]

the default dark mode is probably already installed or at least available in the repo

[amber fractal]

This one does not spark joy

[opaque sigil]

hmm looks like you might get away with just doing QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=breeze-dark if the arch wiki doesn't lie

[obsidian mantle]

didnt work

oh wait

invalid style override

[opaque sigil]

guess they don't ship breeze dark by default

[obsidian mantle]

tried just "dark", command worked but no change

[opaque sigil]

you can install qt5ct/qt6ct and run them and see if they let you change it globally that way

[obsidian mantle]

OH WAIT

it only appears when i run the app

not after i change variable

ok ok ok

so it should work if i install theme

wtf is fusion

fusion is still white

OH

fusion is default

[opaque sigil]

[obsidian mantle]

"windows" is different but it works

hmm

[opaque sigil]

maybe windows dumping some theme when you first install wsl if i had to guess

[obsidian mantle]

i think i did it

qt6 itself runs in dark now

[opaque sigil]

[obsidian mantle]

how do i remove override

unset

[opaque sigil]

yea

[obsidian mantle]

and now i need to make cute chess use this qt6

[opaque sigil]

oh it's probably built with qt5 isn't it

[obsidian mantle]

i cant use qt6 for app for qt5?

i'll try

[opaque sigil]

they're different major versions of the same library

maybe it works idk

[obsidian mantle]

both qt6 and 5 are dark

but chess isnt

cute chess github says it requires qt5

[glad path]

might have to try that since I use iterm2

which does in fact support that

[opaque sigil]

styling anything in wsl is a pain i kind of just gave up on it eventually

since all the toolkits expect some data from desktop environments that just isn't there for things to work smoothly

[olive sable]

honestly wsl for me was a much bigger pain than dualbooting

idk why, its probably just a skill issue on my part

[opaque sigil]

you do graphics which is probably the biggest pain point for wsl

everything else just kind of works (well apart from usb support ig)

[olive sable]

i see

fair enough

wsl was never designed for my usecase then

[opaque sigil]

it's slowly getting there tbf

mostly thanks for microsofts mesa compiler that emits directx

[hexed grove]

okay so 3d rendering in c and opengl is annoying

i see why people use unity now

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

its something to get used to, but i rather like the raw opengl experience

you have everything you need, and nothing extra you never asked for

its minimal, its perfect

besides the overhead from abstracting too much, but vulkan is a pain so

[opaque sigil]

every time i think about using vulkan compute shaders but then i remember

[hexed grove]

ive never used vulkan

[olive sable]

https://vulkan-tutorial.com/Compute_Shader

[hexed grove]

because it never works in precompiled apps that ive used

so i dont want to try!! :3

[olive sable]

does your gpu not support vulkan?

do you use a gtx512?

[hexed grove]

i use an intel uhd graphics 600 (igpu) thank you very much

[opaque sigil]

it's not as bad if you use vulkan purely for compute but stil a ton of boilerplate from what i've seen

that thing does vulkan 1.3

[obsidian mantle]

do i need to use "sync" in the current year

[opaque sigil]

in what context

[obsidian mantle]

ooh actually

so that "platform=" command requires restart

and i probably made it wrong the last time

so it used the wrong variant

[rigid snow]

gentoo on a fucking celeron, how are your compile times doing

[hexed grove]

compile times on what?

[rigid snow]

on everything

[hexed grove]

one sec lemme sudo emerge --emptytree --verbose @world /j

[rigid snow]

[hexed grove]

the thing that took the longest time to compile was mesa so far

and that makes sense

[rigid snow]

and how long is that

[olive sable]

do you have the vulkan drivers you need even installed to run anything with vulkan? altho on a celeron you wont be running anything, more like crawling

[opaque sigil]

are you compiling all drivers or what

[hexed grove]

8 hours

[rigid snow]

WHAT THE FUCK

[obsidian mantle]

i meant it looked like something got reverted after restart, like it only was in ram and wasnt written to disk

i encountered this with some controllers which were using debian

[hexed grove]

no options to disable any

[obsidian mantle]

but it had trash sd card instead of disk

[opaque sigil]

huh

really?

no way to override meson options?

[hexed grove]

not from portage

im sure theres some env var override i couldve used

but like thats gonna take longer to find than just waiting the 8 hours (im lazyyy)

[obsidian mantle]

so after every reboot i get this again

sync didnt help

shutdown/reboot no difference

[opaque sigil]

i think at that point you are most certainly better of building mesa yourself since you won't need like 90% of it

[opaque sigil]

i get the same on kde plasma btw, i think cute chess just doesn't work with wayland

which shouldn't be an issue since both kwin and wslg are xwayland servers so it should just switch to using xcb

idk why it doesn't for you

[obsidian mantle]

does xcb have any correlation with qt

or its some different thing

[opaque sigil]

xcb is what qt uses to draw stuff on the screen

[hexed grove]

https://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Cube-in-OpenGL

[opaque sigil]

or well, to interact with the x server

[hexed grove]

what im learning with

[obsidian mantle]

some people on the internet say that after setting up xcb i need to restart, but after restart ubuntu forgets it

however the error disappears

without restart

[opaque sigil]

yeah cause you tell it directly to just use xcb instead of relying on qt to realise it should switch over

[olive sable]

surely you've played at least one vulkan game. half life 2? portal? terraria? hollow knight?

[obsidian mantle]

oh so it ignores qt in xcb mode?

i dont get it. who is drawing who

[opaque sigil]

screen <- x server <- xcb <- qt <- cute chess

this is (sort of) the chain

either this or
screen <- wayland server <- qt <- cute chess

which is what it tries to do and fails

[hexed grove]

uh no

i dont really game

my computer is too shit

[olive sable]

fair enough

[hexed grove]

and i have no money

[amber fractal]

Was about to say

[rigid snow]

tbh i’m surprised it can handle discord

my pc can barely handle it

[hexed grove]

its not handling electron

its handling firefox

:3

[olive sable]

he has a celeron N4020, my old laptop used to have a celeron N4000. so i know roughly how bad it is

[rigid snow]

i mean still, in firefox

discord is a shit app

[amber fractal]

I hear people play balatro during loading screens of other games, so that one is lightish

[hexed grove]

i used to main a n3050

[olive sable]

oh no

thats even worse

[hexed grove]

:3

that was like 2 months ago

[rigid snow]

at least it’s probably power efficient asl

[olive sable]

from my understanding the 4020 jsut has a higher boost clock, its pretty much as shitty

it used to take 2 minutes for my windows taskbar to load in

[hexed grove]

1h20m on 11% rn

lmao