programming

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

• noooooo

just let me

macro expansion

[real sierra]

different languages tokenizer different ways

[sage crag]

no extra tokens

[fast pagoda]

Use openai tokenizer for the lulz and make the tokens just entirely unrelated to the language

[tender river]

lecture downloaded byeleaf

[real sierra]

I did think more on it and honestly C preprocessor directives might be ok

[fast pagoda]

The one for llms

[real sierra]

maybe

[sage crag]

yes and no

[real sierra]

ultimately it's just a compact function def

er

let me rephrase

[sage crag]

https://git.ablecorp.eu/lily-org/hbvm-c/src/branch/trunk/src/lib/hbvm.c
ye like i say read this file

[real sierra]

a subset of c preprocessor defs should be fine

[real sierra]

I did research and the c lexer does tokenize preprocessor directives as multiple tokens

I'm probably writing my own token counting code anyway so I can just ensure it does

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-math-school-asia-study-gif-18879119

[sage crag]

ye ye

[sage crag]

this code is a full implementation of hbvm

do you know how large this expansion is

after you run the preprocessor

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

ye 800 lines

[real sierra]

yeah that's fine

[trim valve]

gzip the file and set a max size

[real sierra]

you know your ram limit

if you want to use it all on code, go ahead

[real sierra]

all of my variable names are just different lengths of the same character

[fast pagoda]

no gzip in system surely it's not bee installed yet

[real sierra]

aaa = a + aa;

big compressibility

[real sierra]

wait you're right

no wait

I have tar

[fast pagoda]

but no gz

[real sierra]

surely tar requires gz

I was able to extract a tar gz archive

[sage crag]

xz should be preinstalled

try tar xz

[fast pagoda]

i dont think tar requires gz all it does is group stuff if you dont specify -z

but yes xz should be part of the system by default

it's just slow because it uzes lzma i think

[rigid timber]

this project might work pretty nicely, it supports quite a few of the usual languages https://github.com/RRethy/tcount

[fast pagoda]

damn why didnt i replace ls with eza sooner

[real sierra]

this is really good actually

it sits on top of this https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/

[rigid timber]

ye

[real sierra]

which gives it lots of versatility

you're awesome

[fast pagoda]

it sits on teh sitter

power move

[maiden geyser]

581.29 and some windows update

[lament igloo]

would it be really cool if we can use only numbers as variable names

[fast pagoda]

what i was talking about was:

if i am the script afunyun.github.io/foo-repo/assets/js/whatever.js and try to link to a file that's located at afunyun.github.io/foo-repo/assets/images/whatever.png, you'd think you would merely need to go up once and link it as ../images/whatever.png.

However, with how github pages works, it'll resolve that to afunyun.github.io/assets/images/whatever.png instead. Likewise, trying to just go to the root dir of the repo via a path like /foo-repo/bar.html will resolve to afunyun.github.io/bar.html

[lament igloo]

looks like this is happening to cf pages too but different

[fast pagoda]

couple ways around it but all require specifically configuring it for only gh pages which is really annoying

[lament igloo]

no wait this is really similar

except it didnt have the weird ../ bug

[hollow spruce]

Finally my mood fresh

[real sierra]

memory addresses:

[dry sage]

shir

[real sierra]

meant to reply to the message before that

em!

[fast pagoda]

what i did was just add this to the html of the pages LULE:

        const REPO_NAME = 'foo-repo';

        function getBasePath() {
            const pathname = window.location.pathname;
            const segments = pathname.replace(/\/$/, '').split('/').filter(Boolean);

            // h8 gh pages & pathing
            if (window.location.hostname.includes('github.io') && segments[0] === REPO_NAME) {
                return `/${REPO_NAME}/`;
            }

            if (segments.length <= 1) {
                return './';
            }

            const depth = segments.length - 1;
            return '../'.repeat(depth);
        }

in <script></script> block on the page

[lament igloo]

cf pages doesnt have these problems lmao

all i have to do is to just add ./

[fast pagoda]

yeah the neuro place site runs on a cf worker and the paths function basically as i expected

there was a little weirdness compared to just like an apache server or something but much less stupid

i was like "it'll probably be easiest, for previewing purposes, to just deploy it on gh pages"

mfw ive probably spent more time fucking around with paths and stuff than i have doing hardly anything and it's literally just for the page deployment which isnt even where it's going

which is why i said screw it and did this

i put this inside the data.js that handles loading everything at first

and then the path to data.js itself was broken LOL

so it has to be in the page html which is so annoying

on the brightside it should be able to fix path resolution in all cases i think as long as stuff isn't structured wrong for how things are expected to be laid out in the file system

[lament igloo]

nice

[fast pagoda]

and when you post your code in a discord you become self conscious and notice having a nested if statement and can fix it

yay

[rigid snow]

thinking that it’s problematic and being ashamed of that is an achievement in and of itself

[opaque sigil]

[rigid snow]

i don’t like nesting either but personally i don’t care what others think, may as well be 10 nested if statements

[fast pagoda]

lmao

[rigid snow]

who cares

[fast pagoda]

i mean it worked just fine and wouldnt have been an issue with 1 level of nesting but i generally try to not say "oh well" so that i dont end up using some potentially problematic thing as a building block for other stuff and write myself into a corner (still do that tho)

[real sierra]

posting code in discord is a very good way to improve its quality

[rigid snow]

you heard em #programming post your entire corporate codebase rn

to get a raise

[real sierra]

meow meow meow meow

[fast pagoda]

i am just a very self conscious person in general for certain things (definitely not everything im sure y'all figured that out) which is part of why i have 40 repos on gh but only like 2 are public

even though literally nobody cares

[tender river]

copying #programming message

[fast pagoda]

the slight offchance someone might look at it and be like damn that sucks

is enough

[tender river]

shiro i'm very kind

i forgive you

[real sierra]

we do counting not copying...

[fast pagoda]

mrow

[tender river]

[fast pagoda]

damn i used drop shadows here and everything and then compressed it with the shittiest setting imaginable

[real sierra]

i feel so close yet so far on this contest prep

I think I just need to stop thinking about it and get some code written

[fast pagoda]

evil's Reiatsu has a black aura but neuro's is pinkish

damn i need to fix the jpeg-ness here too wtf

[fast pagoda]

im telling you just yolo

planning is for CHUMPS

write it all wrong and refactor it 30 times

[real sierra]

I would agree if I didn't have to write it in so many languages

the refactor complexity is O(kⁿ) where n is how many languages I have to consider and k is a painful constant

[fast pagoda]

UniversaLLM runtime: write it in one language and then when you run a given submission, it "precompiles" aka the llm sloprewrites the api incorrectly right then and there and runs that to account for the target language

i do kinda want to try to make something that does this essentially now that locally runnable MoE are seemingly decent enough to do it without requiring 40 gb of vram to run

[real sierra]

university burning down gg

[fast pagoda]

oh shit

real?

[real sierra]

free degree?

maybe actually real

[opaque sigil]

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-rubin-cpx-accelerates-inference-performance-and-efficiency-for-1m-token-context-workloads/ hmmm, looks like it's basically only for prefill servers given gddr7 (also rip geforce supply)

[fast pagoda]

how much

only 100k a pop

[opaque sigil]

Who knows

Knowing nvidia you probably can't buy them as a single unit and need to buy a whole rack (which is fine that's what they're made for)

[real sierra]

that sounds like a couple fire trucks

[fast pagoda]

imagine that this is probably the smallest unit you can get

one of te racks

[hollow spruce]

Do u think about this joke:

A grocery store cashier asked if I would like my milk in a bag.

I told her 'No, thanks. The carton works fine.'

[opaque sigil]

Oh wait

ffs

[fast pagoda]

put confucius say in front of it and it wrorks

[opaque sigil]

So there's the Rubin GPU and now rubin cpx

[real sierra]

good joke, as someone with bagged milk I approve

[opaque sigil]

[hollow spruce]

I guess that will works

[opaque sigil]

I'm still curious to know what they're doing with vera

Or if it's the same shit but faster link

[fast pagoda]

vera rubin is the name of the person it's named after

is vera separate from rubin as a product

[tender river]

we actually have milk sold in bags in russia

[fast pagoda]

they used GB for grace blackwell so i wouldnt be surprised with the name being VR or something

for the chips

VR100

[warped narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[hollow spruce]

Hmm a last test a ai then cancelled for 1 day
: I started a new business making yachts in my attic this year...

The sails are going through the roof.

[fast pagoda]

same reason as bagged milk everywhere

more efficient

[tender river]

cheaper than bottles

[fast pagoda]

as a packaging method

cheaper

fits better for shipping since bags are le squishy

less plastic

[warped narwhal]

Isnt it so awkward to use though?

[fast pagoda]

you put it in a pitcher

or something i think

[tender river]

mhm

[real sierra]

well it doesn't look like it's burning down unfortunately

[fast pagoda]

damn

looks like you'll have to go back to the getting hit by a bus strat

[opaque sigil]

vera is the cpu, successor to grace

[real sierra]

[fast pagoda]

oh yeah

superchip

thing

wew

[opaque sigil]

grace was just a boring old arm cpu whereas vera is supposedly custom designed

[fast pagoda]

inb4 "custom designed" like apple silicon aka still just arm

[opaque sigil]

The superchip is the combo or CPU+GPU

I mean yeah

It's arm

[real sierra]

custom designed = overpriced

[fast pagoda]

where risc-v

[opaque sigil]

But grace has off the shelf cores

[hollow spruce]

Custom design?

[fast pagoda]

speaking of apple silicon was the a19 pro anything exciting

i saw they pooped out a new iphone yesterday

[opaque sigil]

Blackwell GPUs have risc-v chips

[hollow spruce]

Arm in server what do thing

[real sierra]

party over

[hollow spruce]

About this

[real sierra]

back to classes

[opaque sigil]

Have fun

[fast pagoda]

scheduler right

[opaque sigil]

yeahq

[rigid snow]

last year they had rt to show off, this year nothing new outside of the usual "best smartphone soc"

[hollow spruce]

If Any one USING sql then tell me

[opaque sigil]

Also about the A19, there's some new memory integrity stuff that's kind of cool

[rigid snow]

well that wasn't in the keynote at least

i didn't know

[opaque sigil]

It's a blog on their site

[hollow spruce]

“I prefer Android over Apple. Apple feels too slow in design.”

[opaque sigil]

There's also uhhh

Some other new chips

c2 was the modem I think?

[rigid snow]

it's not

[fast pagoda]

im currently quite chuffed at mysql but ive been populating this table for like 3-4 days for mediawiki so im something of a mysql pro

[rigid snow]

it's everything wireless but cellular

[opaque sigil]

They have so many chips I can't keep up

[rigid snow]

cellular is a different chip

some letter 1x iirc

[opaque sigil]

c1x

[rigid snow]

what was the 2 one then

[hollow spruce]

Is sql enable on ure website?

[opaque sigil]

c2 is the new modem they're working on

[rigid snow]

right but they had a new chip for wireless

yesterday

[opaque sigil]

was it n something

N1?

idfk

[fast pagoda]

when u dont disable innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit and run a giant import so it taks even longer

[opaque sigil]

Oh I was right

[fast pagoda]

currently no i do not have a hosted mysql instance that is internet facing

[real sierra]

; DROP Users; --

[fast pagoda]

just local

[opaque sigil]

Bluetooth & wifi

How is anyone supposed to keep track of this

[rigid snow]

yeah n1

you're not

[fast pagoda]

i did see the n1 thing

[opaque sigil]

I swear they already have used like half the alphabet

[rigid snow]

a, c, m, n, t, h, ...

[fast pagoda]

what i dont understand is how they see no shame in still selling a mac pro with an m2 ultra or w/e when the studio has the m4 max & m3 ultra (where m4 ultra?) and theyll still charge you $7000 for the m2

[rigid snow]

w for apple watch

[hollow spruce]

APPLE
Give extra for software update

[rigid snow]

they don't want you to get the mac pro

[fast pagoda]

right but like

just discontinue it

i guess there's a moron a minute buying one still so why not

[rigid snow]

but some people still need it for pcie i guess

[hollow spruce]

I will buy rtx 5090 pc this money

[real sierra]

apple is closer to a cult collecting its tithe than a tech company

[fast pagoda]

so they have to suffer because they dont feel like updating the design to at least use the updated cpu lule

i know it's like soldered to the board but

apple has a lot of money to retool things without caring

i did kinda want a mac mini when the one with the M4 pro popped up for funzies since it has a lot of unified memory

but then it's still slow for inference

[hollow spruce]

We won !
Taked down by gen z

[fast pagoda]

but then i go on their website and see them still charging that much for several generations old shit and it reminds me why i never buy anything from apple

[rigid snow]

true, i saw someone getting clowned on twitter for building a massive mac cluster for llm inference

a while ago

[real sierra]

this guy is using his phone while holding a cigarette but from this angle it just looks like his phone is smoking and he doesn't care

aura

[fast pagoda]

swoon

go ask him out

[real sierra]

no

he doesn't have a chess bot

[fast pagoda]

eww

[rigid snow]

[hollow spruce]

@real sierra best of luck

[fast pagoda]

Well I was typing something about m4 pros and comparing w/ ai max 395 but my cat has other ideas

[hollow spruce]

Cat had other idea ?
Maybe food or attention

[fast pagoda]

Yeah he said I'm not allowed to use both of my arms

Or sit straight

[hollow spruce]

Train him

[fast pagoda]

he trained me

my other cat knows how to play fetch tho

[rigid snow]

wtf is this discord

[fast pagoda]

layout 100

[hollow spruce]

How many cat in ure home

[fast pagoda]

2

you have a similar colour scheme to mine mlnt

[hollow spruce]

Atleast Guess my thoughts was right this time

[rigid snow]

new chat layout is horrible do they have eyes at discord 💔 wtf is this three-mile gap

[fast pagoda]

mine doesnt do that tho

[rigid snow]

update client

or don't actually

[hollow spruce]

I don’t update the client unless it’s urgent.

[fast pagoda]

i just did

now it like this

[rigid snow]

wait for everyone to stop typing

[true hemlock]

note to self, tighten threadripper socket or any other massive cpus because those amount of pins would make it lose contact to some of the memory channel pins even if just tiny bit lose

[rigid snow]

it looks so ass

[fast pagoda]

mine doesnt have the shadow like that

[rigid snow]

i'm aware it was a very specific edge case

[rigid snow]

WHAT IS THIS GAP i'm gonna crash out

[hollow spruce]

Good night guys
It time for nap

[fast pagoda]

if it's overlay

[fast pagoda]

something is goofed with your discord's CSS and it's not using the right colours for the feathered shadow thingy

maybe try reapplying your theme, mine is set with the new gradient bullshit they put in

[rigid snow]

yeah

i reapplied and it's fixed but

the gap

[fast pagoda]

oh you mean around the chatbox?

it's ~le floating~

[rigid snow]

looks atrocious on irc mode

[fast pagoda]

irc mode makes me crash out

i've tried to use it

i would need the theme to make everything straight up IRC client tier

ascii layout

1990s throwback only

i cant have that layout with all the rounded bullshit

[rigid snow]

get a tui client

[tender river]

wait its ok in cozy mode?

[fast pagoda]

looks fine to me in regular mode

[tender river]

it does look fine

[fast pagoda]

kinda a 30 foot padding between the message and the chatbox but that's for the typing indicator it seems

idk why they needed to move it up

it was fine under the message line lol

[rough bloom]

it looks somewhat okay in spacious mode because everything has huge gaps anyway
default and compact look bad with the new change IMO, but I'm already getting used to it

[rigid snow]

yeah pretty much what i was essaying about

[fast pagoda]

i saw some project on gh that lets anything run in terminal

gui apps w/e

found it lol

https://github.com/mmulet/term.everything

ohyeah

[rough bloom]

combining all the downsides of a GUI app and a terminal to create the worst possible experience

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

dat fidelity LMAO

[rigid snow]

x server over ssh without x server

[fast pagoda]

the guy has this macos crapola applied to his ubuntu install so it makes sense that this came from such a demented and twisted mind

oh wait that's his mac lule

[rigid snow]

that is macos

[fast pagoda]

yeah that's ssh'd to the ubuntu

i was like damn that's a pretty good recreation of macos tbh but also ew

[rigid snow]

[fast pagoda]

practical

mint 22.2 out of beta kool

that

is going on my laptop i think

where MX 25

[olive sable]

aight everything is properly st up and tested. the speakers work and sound good

sub clips sometimes tho

i watched the newest spiderman cuz its 4k and dolby atmos, and like before the surrounds arent really used a lot

but with the new speakers it does sound a lot more real if it does happen

[real sierra]

my brain is so fried

this whole field needs to go

[tender river]

what a coincidence my brain is also fired

wait no differentword

[real sierra]

linear algebra was a mistake

it has only created sadness

[tender river]

linear algebra created you

[olive sable]

but i like liner algebra

[tender river]

be grateful

[real sierra]

absolutely not

[real sierra]

no you don't

you like watching your gpu do the linear algebra for you

which is pretty sadistic imo

[rigid snow]

numbers

[real sierra]

put eigen in front of one more term and I'm going to kill people

[tender river]

eigenshiro

[real sierra]

you're next

[tender river]

[real sierra]

going to go home and lament my course choices

prof said ODEs on Monday like that's something to look forward to

[opaque sigil]

[real sierra]

oh well

class is over now

I can go home and relax with some chess coding

sorry for complain

[rigid snow]

smh rule 7 violation

[tender river]

is ok maths is useful but feels so useless while you're learning it

[real sierra]

university taught me that being able to learn at my own pace is a strict requirement to enjoy math

I would happily spend hours learning this content on my own but I can't stand it when it's taught as a course

[tender river]

na too few

[real sierra]

those who know

[uneven pulsar]

i wish my uni reached that level of education

they just teach more math instead

[real sierra]

nono I mean

[uneven pulsar]

[real sierra]

I learned that from university because they teach at the complete wrong pace

[rigid timber]

average 2016 node project

[uneven pulsar]

i had like 9 math courses
took 17 or so to complete them

[tender river]

the way i did it in uni
sleep at the lecture
look up topic online

[real sierra]

I swear every class will spend half an hour explaining a basic fact and then pull out some lost math relic and leave the proof as an exercise

[uneven pulsar]

so much this

[tender river]

everyone changing colors

[uneven pulsar]

osu chay based fr

[uneven pulsar]

we had a tower of 4 real analysis beyond some others (discrete math, numerical analysis, logic, formal languages, linalg, a few i forgot probably)

for a 6 semester bsc

i went
prep 1 1 1 2 3 skip 34samesemester

the wonder of "we will never teach this class again if you want a degree you do it this semester"

[real sierra]

I failed real analysis and I don't feel bad about it

I guess the trick to getting a degree in the 1900s was to make up a new definition for continuity

applications?

[uneven pulsar]

ci/cd

[tender river]

maths does not have any applications

anyone who tells you otherwise deserves to be burned for heresy

[uneven pulsar]

for every commit c there exists € > 0 that separating c into c1 c2 at € and then running a build on azure for each is good practice

[real sierra]

AI is the future

[rigid snow]

one reply saved an entire ant colony

[real sierra]

it's flying ant season here

[hoary lion]

ew

[fast pagoda]

Instantly full rp mode humans can't compete

[fast pagoda]

Isn't this the list of the pwned packages

[hoary lion]

yes

vulnerability packages

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-emotes-laugh-smile-king-gif-14309345

[olive sable]

Frequency responso go brrr

[tender river]

[olive sable]

My phones mic is not acurate so its probably not that shaky

Even only 1 of these speakers cost more than my phone

I should buy the calibrated mic sometime to do roomcorrection

[real sierra]

c development

(i have not started the debugging process yet)

[tender river]

C

[opaque sigil]

Me when I write cuda on my laptop without a GPU and nvcc doesn't complain so I feel good until I try to compile on a device with an actual gpu and it throws a dozen errors at me

[real sierra]

question

i have a number of functions that look like this

er i cant paste from the vm one sec

struct Board *get_board(struct ChessAPI *api);

where you need to pass in the API

this is kinda annoying

i originally wanted to do something more like

struct ChessAPI {
  struct Board *(*get_board)();
};

which would make the calling convention nicer

but i dont think that works

[tender river]

shiro you're so javacore

[real sierra]

I KNOW

[tender river]

just use globals

[real sierra]

wtf

c has globals?

[tender river]

[real sierra]

tutorial?

[tender river]

c tutorial erm

c language reference

[real sierra]

this is the same level of instruction as university but without the tuition payment

10/10

[tender river]

i'm willing to accept payment

[real sierra]

my wallet isnt

anyway thank you

this totally works

[tender river]

[real sierra]

this is why chayleaf awesome

[tender river]

true!

[tender river]

typedef

[real sierra]

typedef scary

i never used them before

i dont wanna break anything...

[tender river]

shirobwaa

[real sierra]

bweeeee...

[tender river]

shwa

[real sierra]

this also solves problem of people potentially calling functions before starting the API

[tender river]

na use __attribute__((constructor))

useless encapsulation

[sage crag]

no

wrong

typedef <Type> <Name>

ye done

[real sierra]

scared

can type be same as name

[olive sable]

i think it needs to be a type?

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

can i have typedef struct Board Board

[olive sable]

what

[sage crag]

please not do this

[real sierra]

thats like the main use case tho

[sage crag]

typedef struct {
  /* ... */
} Board;

done

[real sierra]

???????????????????????

[tender river]

ye

[real sierra]

thats possible?

[tender river]

nameless struct

[sage crag]

ye

[real sierra]

hacking

but ok

how do i typedef opaque structs

in the header file

[sage crag]

opaque?

[tender river]

struct {
  struct {
    int a;
    int b;
  };
  int c;
} x;

x.a = 5;
x.b = 6;
x.c = 7;

[olive sable]

nah im so confusded rn
granted ive been awkae for 30 hours

[real sierra]

struct declared in header but defined in source file

[tender river]

typedef struct Board Board, typedef struct Board_ Board, typedef struct _Board Board, either works

[real sierra]

you just told me not to do that

[tender river]

konii did

i didnt

[real sierra]

typedefs scary

[real sierra]

konii typing a hate letter for me

[sage crag]

// foo.h
typedef struct foo foo;

// foo.c
struct foo {
  /* ... */
};

i think this should also work

curse you for doing this

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

what is your usecase for such an abomination

[tender river]

encapsulation, api

[real sierra]

^

[olive sable]

should i sleep or nah?

[tender river]

yuh

[real sierra]

if i discover a bug in this api mid-contest i dont have to worry about anyone relying on weird functionality

ensures they only access the api thru the interface

[sage crag]

i destroy you

[real sierra]

[tender river]

does not

[real sierra]

ok "ensures" might be a bit strong

"encourages"

[sage crag]

it just makes everything but the interface hidden

but in theory if it were to leak

[real sierra]

i mean i guess the code will be public

[tender river]

in theory

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

so

[real sierra]

but you still wont peek inside right

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

why you do if open source

[tender river]

interface design

[real sierra]

it was drilled into me as good coding practice

[tender river]

normal practice

[real sierra]

i havent written C in years ok

i trying

[sage crag]

ban

[tender river]

[sage crag]

this probably best way of writing a clean interface but i still smite you

[tender river]

shiro shiro still try to use less pointers more pod ok

plain old data

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_data_structure

[real sierra]

pointers

you get no data

only pointers to data

[sage crag]

use pointers and i point you into garbage can

[real sierra]

pointers to pointers to pointers to pointers to pointers

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

data? nope, just another pointer

array of pointers

[tender river]

you can write java in any language

[sage crag]

does not mean you should

[tender river]

because every language is a strict superset of java

[real sierra]

i think you should be thanking me, pointers are smaller than the pointed data and easier to copy around you're welcome

[sage crag]

bad bad bad

[real sierra]

makes fast C

[sage crag]

by value often cheaper

registers faster than memory

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

computer fast when it know what you want to do

[real sierra]

moves can maybe be by value...

they are pretty small

just two bytes

[sage crag]

[tender river]

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

pointer to 2 byte struct is bigger than 2 byte struct

you ban

[tender river]

shiro learn rust ye

CastCredentialsFactoryStoreProviderRequestStream

https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+/bbc9ce36f629/src/factory/factory_store_providers/src/main.rs

[real sierra]

that sounds like java

[tender river]

fuchsia devs from android team

[real sierra]

https://www.javadoc.io/doc/org.aspectj/aspectjweaver/1.8.10/org/aspectj/weaver/patterns/HasThisTypePatternTriedToSneakInSomeGenericOrParameterizedTypePatternMatchingStuffAnywhereVisitor.html

methods inherited

me when i overload

[sage crag]

HasThisTypePatternTriedToSneakInSomeGenericOrParameterizedTypePatternMatchingStuffAnywhereVisitor

[tender river]

[sage crag]

stop programming in rust

this isnt real code

[tender river]

this java code

[sage crag]

ye not rust

[real sierra]

java

[sage crag]

me when i ```rust
|req: WeaveFactoryStoreProviderRequest| {
req.into_get_factory_store().map(|item| item.0)
},

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

weave

it java

into_get_factory
factory builder

java

[real sierra]

im getting a pointer or reference to incomplete type "struct InternalAPI" is not allowed

can i not use a typedef in the same file that defines it

[tender river]

forward decl

declaration order matters

[real sierra]

what's out of order here

[tender river]

InternalAPI type not struct

[real sierra]

wait

nvm

no spoilers

(ty)

[sage crag]

also never ever typedef something as a pointer

end you

[real sierra]

i wont

promise

[sage crag]

typedef struct {
  /* ... */
} *Struct;

do this, you end

[real sierra]

i wont

[sage crag]

though i do actually use something similar

typedef char string[];
typedef char *varstring;

ye im cretin

[tender river]

typedef struct {} A, *A_p;

[sage crag]

banned

[tender river]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-miniko-minikomew-gif-17857450978747562560

[olive sable]

Goodnight

[real sierra]

bye sam

dream of cuda

[sage crag]

donot

[real sierra]

bitboards

[tender river]

stdint.h

good

[sage crag]

ples

use stdint.h

uint8_t => 8 bit unsigned int

so good

[real sierra]

i need 64 bits

is there uint64_t

[sage crag]

ye

[tender river]

ye

[real sierra]

🔥

[sage crag]

also uintptr_t

which represents pointer width integer

well, it represents a pointer

but you can do arithmetic on it

[sage crag]

there's also int64_t

for signed integer

[real sierra]

no signs here

[sage crag]

you could also make your code

like

more readable

[tender river]

long long signed

[sage crag]

ye

typedef uint64_t BitBoard;

[sage crag]

typedef uint64_t BitBoard;
struct Board {
  BitBoard white_rook;
  /* ... */
};

@real sierra

[real sierra]

extra instructions for no gain

[midnight sigil]

👍

[real sierra]

i dont like readability

[midnight sigil]

it free itself when the program closes

[real sierra]

it hides my implementation from me

so if i forget its 64 bits then i have to go check

uint64_t tells me up front

tho

it might be good for enforcing types on my functions

sanity check

[sage crag]

pls

this interface design 101 too

descriptive type names

[real sierra]

this isnt part of interface

its internals

client need not understand

opaque struct

[sage crag]

u explod

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

have you done exploding yet

[real sierra]

im thonking about which functions i actually need to implement for boards

i didnt really think about it until now

[sage crag]

@native surge write all of the letters between e and o on your keyboard

rtyui

[native surge]

rtzui

[sage crag]

wrong

azerty bad layout

u bad layout

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1400146291841040534/1222288209900343366.gif

[native surge]

[native surge]

type every letter between ö and ä

[tender river]

should probably do plague inc update now

[sage crag]

buhybdjiNAoiudfgbh/,qxWAbfŋħv,9WODesxbguhfv•»Μ·Iudcbvejzfhn

oops i pressed a button on my keyboard and now its in

strange mode?

[rigid snow]

remember i had to rip out the keys on my laptop

[sage crag]

assidhasudhasud

oh

winlock

oops

Alt + Fn +Win

[rigid snow]

now also known as

strange mode

[tender river]

winlock

bfkb113pbk has winlock it just disables win key

[sage crag]

ye ye

strange mode

[rigid snow]

wait yeah how does winlock make it strange

[sage crag]

i didnt know what it did

i had to figure it out by pressing every key again

i want pink irises

ye

[tender river]

contacts

[sage crag]

latural nogarithm

[sage crag]

astigmatism

[rigid snow]

you're tv you can just output whatever color you want

[sage crag]

ye open new feature request

[rigid snow]

wontopen

[real sierra]

2.0.2

[tender river]

unity spaghetti code

can i go back to maths

[real sierra]

wanna trade?

[tender river]

trade for maths ye

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

mistake

shiro unity

chaymaths

bad deal

[real sierra]

java unity

only C# is starting the JVM

[rigid snow]

why use microsoft java when real java exists

[tender river]

https://github.com/chayleaf/Nuerax shiro your task is to disable pity mode popup

[silent cloak]

L take

[rigid snow]

no

[silent cloak]

real java is too primitive and dog shit

[sage crag]

nyan if nyan

[silent cloak]

no structs

[sage crag]

why use microsoft java or java java

both bad

use a real language

[rigid snow]

[silent cloak]

define a real language

[sage crag]

anything that's not java or java-adjacent

[silent cloak]

cap

[sage crag]

jvm bytecode very good, clr very good

too bad their main languages so bad

[silent cloak]

debatable

[rigid snow]

initing a groovy project rn

[sage crag]

[silent cloak]

what the fuck is that

[tender river]

just some unity modding

[silent cloak]

in what language???

[tender river]

f# (c# but good)

[midnight sigil]

is there F##

[tender river]

ye F*

[midnight sigil]

[midnight sigil]

C# but kotlin

[tender river]

scala not kotlin

[silent cloak]

looks like python mixed with rust

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

that's just G

[silent cloak]

(optimized to look terrible)

[midnight sigil]

microtones

[silent cloak]

C--

[rigid snow]

no

i ban this topic

[midnight sigil]

microtonal music is good

out-of-scale hits hard as fuck

[rigid snow]

it does if you stay in standard tuning

[tender river]

[midnight sigil]

any microtonal theory works fine

[tender river]

random bug

not hardware issue

right

[real sierra]

my brain turned off

can someone press power on

[sage crag]

wontfix

[midnight sigil]

cough if they have a context consistency

[rigid snow]

blah blah only one right tuning

[warped narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebo-mr-krabs-hammer-hit-beat-up-gif-26506830

[real sierra]

that works

[patent walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-gif-5090756650443962254

[real sierra]

ok i have a bitmask problem

[sage crag]

vami we need bug fix

[real sierra]

i dont even know how to describe

[tender river]

[sage crag]

bug, shiro writing java

[real sierra]

writing c

[sage crag]

writing java

[real sierra]

my head hort

[sage crag]

you

[real sierra]

i need to

a

[sage crag]

vtable

[real sierra]

bitboard

useful function

translate bitboard

[sage crag]

bit bored

[real sierra]

left or right or up or down

[sage crag]

what mean

[real sierra]

ok so

bit board look like

00000000
00000000
00000000
00000000
00000000
00000000
00000000
00000000

[sage crag]

ye

[patent walrus]

fix, shiro should just use go

[real sierra]

but sometimes those are 1

and it packed into a 64 bit value

[tender river]

right:
shift 1 cell right
shift left column 1 cell up
etc

[sage crag]

fix demote shiro until no more java

[real sierra]

need be able to

shift this

[patent walrus]

promote to member*

[real sierra]

in directions

up and down easy

[sage crag]

!tldr

[patent walrus]

!tldr

[real sierra]

just shl/shr by 8*amount

[patent walrus]

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

but left right

[stiff mica]

• konii 2.0.1 and Cipher critique Java and Java-adjacent languages (konii praises JVM bytecode and CLR but says the main languages are bad); mlntcandy mentions starting a Groovy project. [Link](#programming message)
• chayleaf says they’re doing Unity modding in F# and the group compares languages (caibi, mlntcandy, Cipher, konii etc. discuss C#, Scala, Kotlin, G, Python/Rust impressions); mlntcandy later bans the topic. [Link](#programming message)
• caibi and mlntcandy debate microtonal music and tuning, with caibi defending microtones and saying out-of-scale hits hard, and mlntcandy arguing standard tuning matters. [Link](#programming message)
• Shiro~ asks for help with a 64-bit bitboard/bitmask shift problem, posts the 8x8 bitboard layout, and the group discusses shifting up/down vs left/right (shl/shr by 8*amount, shifting columns, suggestions from chayleaf, konii, Vani). [Link](#programming message)

[real sierra]

how

[sage crag]

well, its just the 2d coordinate to 1d array thing

[real sierra]

but need fast

no loop

[sage crag]

give me minute

[tender river]

[real sierra]

i think it

shl/shr followed by a mask

but idk how to build the mask either

[tender river]

manual

[real sierra]

mask lookup table

[real sierra]

btw the bit order here is left to right, bottom to top

[sage crag]

uint64_t translate(uint64_t bb, int8_t h, int8_t v) {
  if h < 0 {
    bb <<= h;
  } else {
    bb >>= h;
  }
  if v < 0 {
    bb <<= v + 3;
  } else {
    bb >>= v + 3;
  }
  return bb
}
```![evilNod](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1345473984921079848.webp?size=128 "evilNod") ye dont do

[rigid snow]

correct! we were definitely discussing and comparing G the very real programming language and then i banned discussing languages. good times

[sage crag]

might have to swap the directions i wasnt paying attention to the axes

[real sierra]

bb <<= -h surely

[sage crag]

ye ye

[real sierra]

where does +3 come from

[sage crag]

multiplication by 8

wait

i meant

v << 3

[real sierra]

oh

u missed something

the horz shift

[tender river]

shr write tests

[real sierra]

will move pieces to next line

[sage crag]

dont write test

test for weak

[real sierra]

need mask after horz shift

how mask

[tender river]

bitmask code with no tests

llm simulator

hallucinate cod

[sage crag]

shimo

shrmo

shrimp

[real sierra]

[real sierra]

that was the plan

i make changes until i am convinced it works

tests are for the weak

chess programming wiki please have premade code for this

[tender river]

no tests just copying

[real sierra]

chess programming wiki gives its code samples in assembly

none of these methods address the issue tho

all iterative

yucky

maybe i only need to shift one step at a time

[tender river]

((n & 0x8080808080808080) >> 7) | ((n & ~0x8080808080808080) << 1) figure the rest out yourself ye

night shiro

[real sierra]

its over

[tender river]

ok one tip

try with 8 bit or 16 bit integers first

[real sierra]

64 first

[tender river]

[sage crag]

ask

chabgpt

[real sierra]

wow

bitboards are

a lot more op than i thought

shift_ne(white_pawns) & black_pawns gives me half of the pawn attacks for white

and its a one-liner consisting of just bitwise ops

[fast pagoda]

bibboard

[real sierra]

need opinion

could shrink moves to 16 bits...

but then would need functions to extract fields

would you rather the tokens or the memory

actually nvm i think i got this

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1362755858353885195/1367975291019989083/ElvynNyaFix.gif?ex=68c33e45&is=68c1ecc5&hm=e6246bed89e4ade1425e621d17b2f52eeb1575afe22d93b2c7c16af7b1ba1be3&=&width=936&height=936

[hollow spruce]

Im back

[real sierra]

bitboards are so much work but they make move generation so quick

definitely not rewriting this in python

c bindings all the way

[warped narwhal]

Why not just use the seb lague repo as a starting point or reference?

[real sierra]

that was my first thought too

which is how i found out he didn't link the contest repo anywhere

only a separate repo with the results

[warped narwhal]

https://github.com/SebLague/Chess-Challenge

[real sierra]

you dug it up somehow

[warped narwhal]

I was a contributor to it, so I had the link

[real sierra]

you're a contributor

you waited this long to say

[warped narwhal]

Only a small utility function

But a contribution nevertheless

https://github.com/SebLague/Chess-Challenge/commit/a1fdbee6ba1d4da1543d7182587be6ee9bfc2dd1

My contribution

[real sierra]

surprisingly relevant as im working on legal move finding as we speak

im too far in now tho

glad to have this for inspiration but i will see my implementation through to the end

thank you

[silent cloak]

I didn't know u coded Shiro

[real sierra]

i do

when i find a good project

[silent cloak]

Learn something new everyday

Should join the vedal secret 2 development 🔥

[real sierra]

pass

[silent cloak]

Not the birthday gift you want

[real sierra]

the kernel is not a dummy

[patent walrus]

imagine a discord bot that passes every single message through an LLM to figure out when you run a command with a prefix and parse apart the flags

surely that wouldnt waste immeasurably high amounts of energy

[real sierra]

isnt that just

every amateur discord chatbot

[patent walrus]

every amateur discord bot is like if (message.contents == "!command")

[faint sandal]

imagine ||a|| discord ||bot that passes every single message through an LLM to figure out when you run a command with a prefix and parse apart the flags||
surely that wouldnt waste immeasurably high amounts of energy

[patent walrus]

thats what im sayin!

[silent cloak]

Tbh could just use NLU models

Still a waste but less so

[faint sandal]

the joke is i'm talking about just discord

[silent cloak]

The joke is discord

[faint sandal]

the joke

[silent cloak]

The Joke™

[real sierra]

so now i have a mask of attacked squares for each direction

but i dont know how to efficiently map these to their attackers

time to do it the dumb way

[silent cloak]

Id help but I'm heading to bed and that would be a lot of backlog to read

But some way is better than no way

[hollow spruce]

First time I used chat gpt to code but where is my (test responce logic )

[amber fractal]

Hi chat, still no data recovery yet. However...

[hollow spruce]

Buying new ssd

[silent cloak]

Gotta back stuff up

[amber fractal]

4tb also has the same discount somwhow

[silent cloak]

Redundancy is often necessary

[amber fractal]

Believe me, I know I've just not had the systems in place for it. I'm planning on doing better this time

[silent cloak]

Im a massive data hoarder

[hollow spruce]

LITTERY WHERE IS 2% LOGIC
( I RECOMMEND U TO LEARN CODE BEFORE VIBE CODING)

[silent cloak]

There is no logic in AI

Don't vibe code

[hollow spruce]

ALMOST PROJECT WAS FAST BUT MADE ME CONFUSE in MY CODE

[amber fractal]

That is not same discount, that is 100 off

[amber fractal]

Average @true hemlock offer on hardware

[hollow spruce]

Hardware are cheap here

But ship must be cost

[true hemlock]

expensive

[hollow spruce]

Do u want import form
Another country

[true hemlock]

not necessarily?

[amber fractal]

Yeah I guess main brand 4TB is expensive

[true hemlock]

wait idk what's the norm for 4tb nowdays

oh?

300 aud now here

[amber fractal]

@true hemlock 2TB as well

[true hemlock]

nvme getting cheaper