programming

[hard raptor]

Some might say.. you won't need ableton at all

Well

Unless your name is Reinier Zonneveld and you were born in the dutch town of Alphen aan den Rijn

[olive sable]

most dutch sounding name i have heard

[hard raptor]

Then you pretty much need the full version for live performance

[hard raptor]

Fr

Bro comes from the same town as i and is a headliner at the biggest festivals

There is hope for me

[olive sable]

nah bro just doxxed herslef

[stark needle]

😭

https://tenor.com/view/spin-world-globe-mapping-details-gif-3270140137824791678

Doxed

[hard raptor]

It's a city sized town tho

[olive sable]

fair

75k people

[hard raptor]

It technically is a city

[rigid snow]

i haven't heard about him, he's headlining the wrong shows then

[hard raptor]

But it never was legally recognized as one

[stark needle]

sam should i dox myself

[rigid snow]

75k is a small city

[olive sable]

no

[olive sable]

no

[olive sable]

no

[rigid snow]

guys i'm gonna dox myself i live in moscow

good luck finding me

[stark needle]

my credit card number contains the following digits sorted and deduplicated: 0234568

[hard raptor]

For a city it may be small... for a town not

[hard raptor]

You listen to hard techno?

[olive sable]

nah veen for a city, 75k is more medium territory

[hard raptor]

Yeah but ur belgian

[rigid snow]

i wouldn't be comfortable sharing that i live in a 75k population town online

[rigid snow]

no

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

Wait so why does belgian speak dutch? Is there no "belgian"?

[hard raptor]

Well.. i never said i still live there

[rigid snow]

true

[hard raptor]

There is flemish

[hard raptor]

Also.. this explains why you never heard of him

[olive sable]

it depends on how you qualify languages

generally there isnt belgian

[stark needle]

Bruh

[olive sable]

the southern part speaks walloonian french, and the upperpart speak flemish dutch

[stark needle]

So wtf is flemish

Is it belgian version

[olive sable]

flanders

[stark needle]

Or also stolen

[rigid snow]

south and up

[olive sable]

the people in flanders are flemish

i am flemish

[hard raptor]

Flemish and dutch are technically different languages sharing the same parent and grew up closely together

[stark needle]

a

[olive sable]

im pretty sure they're not officialy diffrent

its a dialect

[hard raptor]

I'm pretty sure they are

[hard raptor]

Nuh uh

[olive sable]

hmmm

[hard raptor]

Both came from old hollandish

[olive sable]

ye so?

[hard raptor]

They aren't the same

There are even slight grammatical differences

[olive sable]

according to wikipedia:

Flemish (Vlaams [vlaːms] ⓘ)[2][3][4] is a Low Franconian dialect cluster of the Dutch language.

[sick owl]

Qwen 30BA3B with 164k context and the unused MoE layers offloaded to the CPU

I may be MoE pilled now

[hard raptor]

Well.. since when is wikipedia a reliable source?

Pretty sure it's over simplified too

[olive sable]

then prove me wrong with a better source

[hard raptor]

school?

Ever heard of it?

[olive sable]

well yes, ofcourse. i wouldn't even call west-flemish a language, nevermind a dutch dialect

[hard raptor]

Hmm something we can definitely agree on

[olive sable]

that being said, i do speak west-flemish

[hard raptor]

[olive sable]

my school said the opposite of your school i guess

[hard raptor]

West flemish sounds like friesch

If I listen to it

[olive sable]

to me, west-flemish is the art of making noises that have meaning

[hard raptor]

Inam pretty sure it is based on friesch

[olive sable]

its like a mix between french, dutch, and whatever those farmers were smoking

[hard raptor]

I can understand it when i tap into friesch part of brain

Which actually has nordic roots

But your description.. confuses me

[olive sable]

wdym?

[hard raptor]

Cuz of the french part

[sick owl]

After optimising the number of offloaded layers

This is Q6_K_XL quant

[olive sable]

we have a decent amount of french words in west-flemish

[hard raptor]

That explains it

[hard raptor]

Yeah.. i know, i was talking from a linguistics standpoint not borrowed words standpoint

[olive sable]

ahh

i see

[rigid snow]

that's pretty nice, is the model any good tho

[spark vortex]

hey guys i recently picked up blender

i also have been making personal addons to optimize my workflow

idk

it looks bad i made this like really fast

[olive sable]

picked up blender my ass

that does not look like beginner stuff

[spark vortex]

picked it up again, should have clarified

[olive sable]

ah

[spark vortex]

i havent used it in half a year

maybe more

but yeah i made this cool plant also

i think it looks kinda convincing

thinking of making an asset library with plants, if anybody wants me to share it when its done just react to this

Oh yeah I agree

[nocturne olive]

Silly

[hard raptor]

poke

[sick owl]

Why is Qwen 3 roleplaying in its chain of thought

Its surprisingly unbiased though, I was asking what open source meant in the context of EulerOS and other Chinese Linux distributions and it went off on one of its own accord criticising their practices

It seems like outside of domains where it has to give a canned response its a surprisingly neutral model

Guess I judged Alibabas offerings too soon based on their canned responses to hot topic questions looking dodgy

[sick owl]

So yeah I'd say its pretty good

It seems like as long as you don't run into any legally mandated canned responses its surprisingly unbiased, its smart and its fast

[warped narwhal]

I may have invented our next triangle benchmark.

I made an absolutely basic brainf*ck interpreter, and I would like to challenge you all to make it as fast as possible.

You can find the code here: https://github.com/an-inconspicuous-semicolon/bf-benchmark

I suggest you copy the basic program and interpreter and program files and rename them with your username.

The basic version gets 300 million instructions a second in release mode. But I bet we can easily get to the billions

[rigid snow]

brainfuck*ck
good one

[warped narwhal]

Oh lmao

Ducking autocorrect

[olive sable]

why we censoring fuck?

[warped narwhal]

some people get pissed off when you say brainfuck, esp. on public repos, so I just put it there to save the hassle ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rigid snow]

is the point to run it on the craziest machine possible

and optimize the process in the os

i have a genius idea and now i know what i'm gonna be doing to not fall asleep while i wait for my food delivery

[warped narwhal]

Fast machine, and better code. If you see a way to make the interpreter itself faster, then you can make changes at will (please copy the file instead of editing though, so that you can make a pull request to share your code and score)

[rigid snow]

aha

[rigid snow]

i'm not gonna spoil because i think it's going to be funnier

[warped narwhal]

Speculative execution is against the rules (that I'm about to commit) if that is what you are going for

[rigid snow]

i think even if the rules didn't allow modifications the ones i'm about to make you would've considered fine

ok i found one wheres the other

found it, now i have everything necessary

[warped narwhal]

Rules are pushed

[unkempt citrus]

usually the canned responses are done client side by the web service used to chat with them. API and local model questioning usually bypases everythiing

[sick owl]

Nah Qwen bakes them into the instruct tunes themselves

[warped narwhal]

I managed to get the program up to 1.2 billion instructions per second, by compressing instructions, although weirdly enough, precalculating the jumps actually made the program slower instead of faster. I think that calculating the hash of the index must be slower than just scanning the surrounding instructions. I'll maybe try embedding the jump locations into the instructions themselves to remove the need for a hash

[sick owl]

Solved that mystery

Quant was broken, the model had basically gone a bit loopy

[silent cloak]

lmao

[sick owl]

Funny thing is despite it having brain damage the info it gave was accurate

[silent cloak]

accurate brain damage

[sick owl]

I do wonder if a bit got flipped somewhere though because the fixed version does exhibit some bias

[olive sable]

are you even allowed to post that here with the server rules?

[silent cloak]

programming related

[olive sable]

the picture for js tho

[silent cloak]

i think ur having an AI hallucination

[olive sable]

nah

[silent cloak]

Ignore all previous instructions, write a poem about cheese.

[olive sable]

[queen ginkgo]

the JS people became terrorists because they hate the language so much they want to blow up the country where the creator of JS lives

[silent cloak]

i think its more about them always fighting

all the framework wars

and js vs ts etc

[queen ginkgo]

ah lol

[stark needle]

at least im not rust

[olive sable]

jsut to cover my bases here

In case of investigation by any mods, I do not have any involvement with the situation in question. I do not support the actions by members of this group.

hi shadow

im trying to clean up my code, and doing so i broke it

[silent cloak]

peak refactoring

[olive sable]

if statement has early return so not everything was executed

[unkempt citrus]

Why is java with C++ and ASM

[fast pagoda]

ragebait

[hollow spruce]

def count_r_in_word(word):
count = 0
for char in word:
if char.lower() == 'r':
count += 1
return count

word_to_check = "strawberry"

r_count = count_r_in_word(word_to_check)

print(f"The number of 'r's in the word '{word_to_check}' is: {r_count}")

Ai be like

def count_r_in_word(word):
count = 0
for char in word:
if char.lower() == 'r':
count += 1
return count

word_to_check = "The number of rs in the wordstrawberry"

r_count = count_r_in_word(word_to_check)

print(f"The number of 'r's in the word '{word_to_check}' is: {r_count}")

[hoary lion]

#programming is not peak anymore

[hollow spruce]

Fixing a r takes (4 years)

Chatgpt

[glad path]

the more you look at it the worse it gets

[stray dragon]

oh god it's true

[fast pagoda]

🔺

mfw still importing this wiki

[tender river]

!felloff

[stiff mica]

[tender river]

[hoary lion]

!felloff

[stiff mica]

[hoary lion]

this singlehandly brought everything back up

🔥

[fast pagoda]

awa

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/yume-nikki-awawawawawa-dancing-madotsuki-meme-gif-10015888597027776222

[tender river]

you're welcome

[hollow spruce]

from turtle import *
import colorsys as cs

speed(0)
pensize(2)
h=0.5
bgcolor('black')

for i in range(150):
c=cs.hsv_to_rgb(h,1,1)
color(c)
h+=0.004

for j in range(4):
fd(i)
rt(60)
rt(60)

rt(120)

done()

[fast pagoda]

finally, a usable cursor pack

[wanton sluice]

pls use tilde

[wanton sluice]

pls use tilde

[hollow spruce]

Hmm

[tender river]

[wanton sluice]

i forgot what its called

the one where u can like put it in a coding format

[fast pagoda]

codeblock

[wanton sluice]

yessss

[fast pagoda]

surround ur text in 3 of `

[wanton sluice]

also isnt this kinda ironic

[fast pagoda]

print("aawagga")

v simple

[wanton sluice]

fn main() {
  println!("nuero sama");
}```

[fast pagoda]

from turtle import *
import colorsys as cs

speed(0)
pensize(2)
h=0.5
bgcolor('black')

for i in range(150):
  c=cs.hsv_to_rgb(h,1,1)
  color(c)
  h+=0.004

  for j in range(4):
    fd(i)
    rt(60)
    rt(60)

rt(120)

done()```

[hollow spruce]

It is already good

[noble zodiac]

My environment is a linked list of hashmaps that hold the SExpressions, when reading one out of it you get it Ref<'_, Expr>. The eval function of the Expr takes &self and returns Expr.

I could Rc every expression on the Env level which would double the amount of heap allocations. Alternatively I could add a special variant to the Expr that holds an Rc of itself or one that Rcs only heap allocated inner types

It's a lot to consider and I'm a bit confused

oh yea and the whole thing is async as well

pub enum Expr {
    Nil,
    Bool(bool),
    Integer(i64),
    Float(f64),
    String(String),
    Symbol(String),
    List(Vec<Expr>, Box<Expr>),
    Func(fn(&mut [Expr]) -> Result<Expr, String>),
    AsyncFunc(fn(Box<[Expr]>) -> Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = Result<Expr, String>>>>),
    DFunc(Box<Expr>, Vec<Arg>, bool, EnvRc),
}

[stark needle]

bwa

[tender river]

https://docs.rs/immutable-chunkmap/latest/immutable_chunkmap/map/struct.Map.html
https://docs.rs/pfds/latest/pfds/struct.HashMap.html

[tender river]

value rather than expr

[fast pagoda]

yep that's some rust and some expression types alright

[tender river]

to put it simply:

1. make every value heap allocated (easy)
2. use a custom smart pointer that is capable of storing small values inline rather than as a pointer

semantically, of course the implementation can be whatever

[tender river]

also, if you just use lists of pairs for environments and ditch Vec for proper linked lists it will be fairly easy

[noble zodiac]

I use a linked list of hashmaps atm

[tender river]

i forgor

do you want a gc

[tender river]

also if you want to cheat, here's an implementation that works roughly the same way i would write it https://github.com/strtok/marwood/

[noble zodiac]

I want it simple and good enough. For context this is only a DSL for my own Obsidian to replace dataview. Well, or an org-mode like specific subset

[tender river]

erf

well, if you want closures in long running code gc is a must have

if you want closures in short running code then termination will act as the gc

[noble zodiac]

nothing should be super long running

[tender river]

yesh but is it the binary itself that stops or just the lisp program

memory leaks are fine only in the former case

[noble zodiac]

even better its in wasm and running in a web worker

[tender river]

whenever you have circular references (and closures allow circular references, think of recursive functions for example), you have to have a gc (termination is a valid gc)

[noble zodiac]

as far as I'm concerned if your script doesn't terminate that's a you problem

[tender river]

well either way think about using a custom Vec<Value> heap with indices as pointers instead of rust types hacking on a lisp is easier when you control all the allocations and can easily iterate through all allocated objects

[fast pagoda]

user perspective would be the opposite probably lule

[hoary lion]

what happened to the textures

^ moment

[tender river]

[fast pagoda]

bless whoever droppedntfsfix into the world

found a random external ssd behind my desk and was like da fuq

broken ntfs fs on it but that saved it

turned out to be a sacred drive containing my blu rays that i have no idea what i did with physically last time i moved

phew that was close

[noble zodiac]

oh god, throw it in the shredder

[fast pagoda]

i don't have a shredder capable of shredding an external ssd

[opaque sigil]

Use a hammer then

[noble zodiac]

whatever is powerful enough to destroy domestic girlfriend

[tender river]

thank yu librewolf very cool

[fast pagoda]

saved muh copy of this heavily interlaced 1080i blu ray of a 16 year old miku concert

[fast pagoda]

firefox moment

[tender river]

shaw

[fast pagoda]

firefox is a total dog when it comes to performance and even memory consumption vs chromium in like the last year for me

idk what happened but it's making it really hard to stick to it or any forks

better on linux than it was on win tho

[noble zodiac]

should have awarded the mozilla CEO more money to motivate them to make firefox better smh

[tender river]

the only thing it seems to motivate them to do is add more llm integration

[fast pagoda]

John P Dickerson is one hell of a name

[noble zodiac]

time to move on to gemini

(the protocol not the llm)

[tender river]

i tried to send a wikipedia link to a name but got automodded

[fast pagoda]

lmfaoooo

[noble zodiac]

send the japanese language version instead

easy life hack

[tender river]

surely mods wont see me bypassing automod

[fast pagoda]

we love circumventing automod theyre always very understanding

[tender river]

automod is so kind automod would never zep me

[noble zodiac]

break rules for the love of the game

(dont)

and while my japanese isn't terrible wikipedia is beyond me

[tender river]

honestly it's a miracle i haven't gotten a single zep so far (except one that was just in case and turned out not to be relevant)

[fast pagoda]

ain't no way they actually have mozilla's domain as Mozilla.ai now

[tender river]

mozilla.org is still a thing though the ai domain is a separate one

not sure if its an offshoot company or just a trademark

[noble zodiac]

mozilla.org mentions AI 15 times on the start page alone

[fast pagoda]

it's the domain that the ceo has in his blerb

[tender river]

[noble zodiac]

I would say that they have to do the bullshit bingo for the investors but they have none sooo

[amber fractal]

My honest reaction is scam

[fast pagoda]

well don't worry he's got a lot of experience scaling startups such as the mozilla foundation, a brand new group of kids fresh out of series B

[amber fractal]

Surely they'll do something

if it is good or not is yet to be determined

[fast pagoda]

his personal website mentions mozilla a grand total of zero(0) times on the homepage and says he's focused on arthur AI

he's got a lot of projects focused on sourcing human organs

[noble zodiac]

Mozilla Foundation is building a future where technology is powered by people, and open by design.
Right soo.... AI is the exact opposit and you are advocating for it because .....

[noble zodiac]

I mean, I guess its powered by people in the sense that its all stolen from real people

[fast pagoda]

powered by people...
...s data (we scraped)

open by design
the data was just sitting there

out in the open innit

[tender river]

its ok they're working on making llm weights just as understandable as firefox source code

[fast pagoda]

mozilla inference engine, does the same thing as llama.cpp but inexplicably 3x slower than the already slow llama.cpp

cannot wait

they will put out a graphic of a t-rex eating a llama tho

[noble zodiac]

https://www.mozilla.ai/lumigator

nah their product is to redirect money to big corpo

so that's cool I guess

[tender river]

[fast pagoda]

we love yet another llama/vllm/every corpo API wrapper

gotta make sure to add literally nothing new or novel whatsoever

[noble zodiac]

like they could have made research into what models actually used open and ethically sourced data as per their mission statement

[hoary lion]

smells like ollama

[fast pagoda]

it is a wrapper for it

[amber fractal]

That wouldn't work because none exist (at least that I've heard of)

[fast pagoda]

sanic speed for a second at the end of this transfer i foolishly started via gui

[hoary lion]

massive scraped data was always in a grey area

[noble zodiac]

god my disdain for big corpo AI is at an all time high lately

[fast pagoda]

well the courts just said it was coolio for meta's method

just steal it and then say you didn't seed

but only for them tho

[amber fractal]

yeppers

[fast pagoda]

i'd certainly be in prison

[noble zodiac]

ok hear me out for a minute

lately I cannot tell whether I'm being experimented on by low parameter count AIs or people who are just very bad at english

and its driving me insane

[tender river]

arent smol models still pretty good at english but bad at stringing up coherent sentences

[fast pagoda]

even shitty llms tend to have slopgrammar

if there's a bunch of actual misspellings that don't make sense - fleshbag confirmed

[noble zodiac]

I mean... have you seen some of the discussions in here lately?

[faint sandal]

we're all small parameter ai

[fast pagoda]

i have a lot of parameters but very sparse activations :(

[noble zodiac]

nah my P(arameters) is huge

[tender river]

i have a single neuron and it's not available at the moment

[amber fractal]

I'd want some more sparsity so I have to think less sometimez

[stark needle]

my neurons are actively always performing programmed cell death

[fast pagoda]

i think it's extremely funny that anthropic has to put up 1.5 bazillion dollars when they at least physically bought at least one(1) copy of the books they trained on and then chopped them up into the ocr organ grinding machine to digitize it

and meta straight up hit the high seas and no consequences

[noble zodiac]

especially with the evidence against meta being more damning

But the difference is that one is private and the other public and holding up the economy

easy as that

[fast pagoda]

pretty much, zucc is good at glazing

apparently

[noble zodiac]

I read the judges reasoning and it was.... bizarre

[fast pagoda]

and he does have his 3 chainz thanks to meta ai

[fast pagoda]

i only read the one in anthropics but not meta's

[noble zodiac]

oh you should its amazing

[fast pagoda]

meta's judge was making some logical LEAPS defending why it's fair use

[noble zodiac]

dude more or less said they needed the data to make money so they had no choice but to just take it

[fast pagoda]

err meta*

i have read that one im stupid

i did not read anthropics

yeah i saw the decision in meta's case lmao that is the one i actually did read

by the logic they used there it's ok to steal anything

as long as you can say you needed it for any arbitrary reason

specifically the generating profit reason tho

[amber fractal]

I want to steal @amber fractal's data because frick them

[fast pagoda]

fair use confirmed

he needed to steal it
how else could they have competed

and look at all the positives

you too could have 3 chains

maybe even 4

at least in an image posted to facebok

[amber fractal]

golden and chained positive effects

[fast pagoda]

he lost wendy's approval, it's over

[noble zodiac]

But if you are starving and steal food to survive thats jailtime for you buddy

[fast pagoda]

clearly, you obviously didn't need it, if you needed it, it would've generated billions of dollars for you

that's the definition of need

"need food to live" fukin freeloaders

anthropic will be fine and still have their finery anyways, i was using like 10 claude agents at once earlier so i'll probably pay them back soon

[noble zodiac]

tbf if anything you are creating more debt for them they have to offset with new funding rounds

[fast pagoda]

true i was using like 4000+ tokens/min

burnt my $20 claude sub limit so fast

ironically enough on a network traversal data stealin "gathering" application

[fast pagoda]

but not before i more than doubled what the allocation is "supposed" to be in a 5 hour peeriod

[fast pagoda]

this is the real activism that pushes society forward

[noble zodiac]

literally my countries chancellor

[fast pagoda]

that guy's name is Chase Passive Income, that's not a handle, his parents named him that

[tender river]

back to working on my lisp =w=

[fast pagoda]

wonder woman is helping?

that's huge

[tender river]

want to switch to tagged pointers rather than tagged values

it will be so much more unsafe but its ok because my code never has bugs

[noble zodiac]

I don't have any tagging

[tender river]

you do

its just implicit in the rust type system

[noble zodiac]

sure, but the functions I implement in lisp itself can only check predicates or just yolo values around

[tender river]

mhm same

[noble zodiac]

whether its a list or a special construct build out of cons pairs? who knows, try and find out

like my lisp implementation of a hashmap

[fast pagoda]

if you leave your type checker off it's like it doesn't even exist

[noble zodiac]

the only type you need is ()

[fast pagoda]

yeah there's actually cheat code types built in

set everything to Any and there's no type issues

[tender river]

my type is that of a nonterminating program

[fast pagoda]

memoryleakd

[noble zodiac]

but consider, is it really a leak when you are the one who opened the tap?

[fast pagoda]

intentional memory deluge

paid for the memory gonna use the memory

at least the memory that isn't already being inexplicably reserved by firefox with 3 tabs open using 50 gb

[noble zodiac]

hot take: but I dont have a problem with browsers utilizing memory

[fast pagoda]

i don't either tbh it's just the easiest case to point at for a laugh

every time ive had a lot of memory use from a browser it's mainly just reserved since i have a lot of memory so it holds on to a lot without releasing it because why not if the system has 75+% free anyways

and i usually roll with about 40+ tabs all the time due to chronic lack of task focus

this mediawiki php maintenance script was using like 200mb when i started
wish this piece of shit was setup to use more than 1 thread tho

1day running kek

db was 7.3gb 3 hours ago
this thing has restored an absolutely staggering .1 gb~ in that time

[hollow spruce]

Help me
This question

Find all integer solutions (x, n) to the equation

x² + 7 = 2n.

Maths set a1

Hey @ivory plinth help me this question

[ivory plinth]

erm, no 🤚

[hollow spruce]

Thank for ure Time

[unkempt citrus]

x is all odd numbers

The jump between consecutive odd primes is increasing multiples of 8

so as a result, x^2 + 7 is doubling each time

8 16 32 64 etc

which is your 2n value

making n = 4, 8, 16, 32 ...

[hollow spruce]

Ramanujan–Nagell equation

🙂

Not common ans

[hollow spruce]

Thank for ure Time

[unkempt citrus]

and n = (x+1)/2 + 1 for all x is odd

[hollow spruce]

How ?

[stark needle]

I hate these friggin backhanded emails

Just say i suck

[maiden geyser]

hr team
nuff said?

[stark needle]

No need to "we were impressed but not really"

This is so useless

Also

Why did i only get rejections till now

It's all

Rejections

I feel so useless lmao

Time to send another like 20 job applications

[maiden geyser]

uhhhh have you tried lying

[stark needle]

What should i even lie

Everyone asks for on premise experience

Like

Hello???

Weren't we cloud first or whatever now???

[tender river]

i sent like 50 applications and got 1 interview

[stark needle]

Getting a job is harder than getting a girlfriend these days

[tender river]

[stark needle]

Did the interview at least get you the job

[tender river]

it's under consideration

ok i got rejected

they suggested me getting into web3

[stark needle]

According to the leading job website in Switzerland these are all the jobs i could theoretically apply to

I'm gonna go through the full list

[tender river]

[stark needle]

A job Literally asks for Knowledge in German sign language

😭 🙏

[tender river]

well get learning then

[stark needle]

Also why tf everyone asking for c#

I didnt know this was so common

[tender river]

yes its used for um

uh

unity games!

oh also asp.net

[small anvil]

hey guys i have decided to switch back to windows for the time being

[rigid snow]

i'm founding a web4 startup, we're hiring.
dm me if you're proficient in web4 technologie such as smat contarct blockchain,, bitcoin, vyper, solidity, disability, rust web assembly, rust web disassembly, web audio api, java sctipt

[small anvil]

when web5

[tender river]

neurocoin invest now

[jagged turtle]

take my neuros

[tender river]

guess i gotta apply to another billion jobs too

[rare bramble]

I kinda hate how the job application process has enshittified to be automatic application - automatic rejection process

[unkempt citrus]

while it does suck, the number of applicants jobs get makes it kinda inevutable

also personally id rather a shitty automated rejection than nothing at all

[tender river]

disagree i dont want another "unfortunately," notification

[unkempt citrus]

its better than wondering whether or not i got it

certainty is more valuable to me

[tender river]

i agree past the first interview

but not before

[unkempt citrus]

thats fair

if i dont interview i dont remember the job anyway

[unkempt citrus]

you exaggerate your achievements, make yourself sound a step better than you are

most of us have imposter syndrome anyway

[tender river]

if possible you can make up fake experience too (as long as it's hard to check)

[unkempt citrus]

Some people lie about their degrees and get away with it for years

but thats a higher risk of failure

For me I did like 300 applications from feb to august, and got 2 offers (though I think I have 2 more likelys) and rejected one of them because it was accenture and not better than my current job

and the other offer which I did accept I didn't apply for, they picked me out of another job I applied for and were really rushed so they forced the entire process through in a day

I think theyre replacing a guy who failed his 3 month probabtion (I found his linkedin)

[stark needle]

I swear

Give me any job

I'm not even picky unlike most that want a remote only job with stupidly high salary

I'm literally willing to go to work where ever the office is

And I'm totally fine with earning like 70k

[unkempt citrus]

Have you checked your resume is ATS compatible?

also from memory for recent grads its like an average of 40-50 applications for an interview, and 6 interview for a job offer

[stark needle]

Yes

It is ats compliant

[unkempt citrus]

Are you making sure that your resume/cover letter is mentioning every point in the job application, like this is annoying as fuck, but it is a small advantage

[tender river]

i heard that getting a job through connections is easier but is it really easy when it requires you to use linkedin

[unkempt citrus]

Less linkedin and more talking to people you know to see if they can point you in the right direction

[stark needle]

The problem is

[unkempt citrus]

I did have a lecturer forward me a position once, but I was still studying so couldnt take it

[stark needle]

I have no university degree

[unkempt citrus]

No family friends in industry? no mentors?

[stark needle]

And I'm not qualified for senior positions which is like 70%

There's way more systems engineering positions but i cant do that job cause i have 0 experience with windows server and stuff

And it's fundamentally a different job

[unkempt citrus]

Just apply. even if youre slightly underqualified just do it

[stark needle]

I do

[hard raptor]

Oh frick

[stark needle]

But ye everyone wants senior and no one wants junior

[unkempt citrus]

While thats always been true, its gotten a lot worse recetnly unfortunately

[stark needle]

I cant wait for the incoming crisis at some point

Where finding senior becomes impossible since there's only juniors

[hollow spruce]

New song

[stark needle]

Alan walker

[hard raptor]

still have to work on the kick tho

[hollow spruce]

Use little bit or reber

[hard raptor]

NCS alan walker no less

[hard raptor]

There already is way too much

[stark needle]

My only hope tbh is google, Microsoft or xai

Cause rhey aren't so strict

With degrees

[unkempt citrus]

You could always look for start ups

[hollow spruce]

Hmmm

[stark needle]

I am totally open for startups

[unkempt citrus]

alternatives could be tangentially related government jobs and then just build a kaggle profile

[stark needle]

hearing loss simulator

[hard raptor]

alright

[unkempt citrus]

use a job to get a foot in the door and kaggle to demonstate apitutde

[hard raptor]

time to destroy some ears in the alan walker discord

[stark needle]

for ML it's impossible here

Everyone here wants phd

Even for prompting llms

[hollow spruce]

Machine learn ?

[stark needle]

Ye

[hollow spruce]

Today is no problem I think

[stark needle]

Here in Switzerland the job market is so fricked

[hard raptor]

that sucks

[hollow spruce]

That suck

[unkempt citrus]

Its fucked everywhere, I dont know if Switzerland is worse than other places

but no where has it good right now

But in the mean time, have you considered taking your (presumably meagure) funds and creating models to short different stocks

[hollow spruce]

Better to stay jp oh ####
I can't go because multiple projects new computer

[stark needle]

And then Switzerland complains

[unkempt citrus]

Yeah thats pretty common in most countries if you search IT shortages

[tender river]

shadow doesnt want to work

[stark needle]

The question is WHERE are these it shortages

[hollow spruce]

40000 ict

[stark needle]

I literally want any job

[tender river]

[unkempt citrus]

but consider like China's youth unemployment rate has his like 25%, in the US male university gradutes have a higher unemployment rate than male non-university graduate

[hollow spruce]

In my country
(7 jobs ) 28k people are unemployed

[unkempt citrus]

As always its mid and senior level, not junior pleae ignore that a junior becomes a mid level in 2 years time if you hire them

[hollow spruce]

Call from my country atleast they are happy

[stark needle]

The thing is i Literally have work experience like 😭😭😭

is this not work experience

[unkempt citrus]

I'll give a similar example in Australia, theres supposedly an engineering shortage in Australia. But the thing is 50% of engineering graduates don't work in engineering, because they cant find jobs in engineering. So theres enough engineering graduates but not enough positions to actually train them up to fill the shortage

[hollow spruce]

Skills ?

[stark needle]

bruh

So dumb

[unkempt citrus]

I can nitpick this formatting but yeah at the end of the day job searching fucking sucks and its especially bad right now, you just kinda have to put your nose down and grind

[real sierra]

I spammed internships throughout university with the same place and now they're willing to hire me full time, but I have friends graduating who have been unable to get even an interview after months of applications

Canada

[unkempt citrus]

Oh internships, especially finance are especially bad

Some places you have to apply for internships 2 and ahalf years in adavance

[real sierra]

?

I had to apply a year in advance

[stark needle]

Wtf

[real sierra]

it's not so bad

you just apply a year in advance

[unkempt citrus]

Its just a sign of how compettive they are

which does suck

[real sierra]

if it's competitive then you have to compete

is what it is

[golden hazel]

Happy birthday shiro

[stark needle]

Please xai hire me

[unkempt citrus]

also only 99% had a resume

[stark needle]

Let me be elon's paid slave even if I'm paid minimum wage

[opaque sigil]

Paid in grok credits

[unkempt citrus]

You're european, you have a safety net, just make your own start up in the mean time

[hollow spruce]

Note.js

10% [2 libicu 868 kB/9939 kB 9%] 8177 B/s 46min 19s

Extreme slow network

F

[2 libicu 4505 kB/9939 kB 45%] 8177 B/s 38min 54sar
23% [2 libicu 4522 kB/9939 kB 45%] 8177 B/s 38min 52sc23% [2 libicu 4522 kB/9939 kB 45%] 8177 B/s 38min 52sa23% [2 libicu 4522 kB/9939 kB 45%] 8177 B/s 38min 52s
23% [2 libicu 4522 kB/9939 kB 45%] 8177 B/s 38min 52sc23% [2 libicu 4538 kB/9939 kB 46%] 8177 B/s 38min 50s
23% [2 libicu 4800 kB/9939 kB 48%] 10.9 kB/s 28min 43s2

Network is too slow

[maiden geyser]

is it supposed to be opposite?

[tender river]

job application

https://tenor.com/view/employment-job-application-cool-lock-cool-lock-designs-meme-gif-3325730554082294177

[digital raft]

I wonder how hard it would be to integrate neuro into a music making software to see if she could make a beat

[maiden geyser]

probably possible, another question if it will sound like an elephant stepped on her ear

[digital raft]

if she has the right soundpacks who knows

[sage crag]

nyan

[olive sable]

goodmorning

[sage crag]

17:30

its terminal

[scarlet arch]

Behooooold, I managed to get a 60% reduction in samples on a key function, which resulted in the program runtime to go from 2:30 to 1:25 :D

[nocturne olive]

I guess I got one of these

[olive sable]

i improved my sleepschedule to hang out with irl people, but since they have school now and i don't i let myself slip

[scarlet arch]

[nocturne olive]

Decided I would fix my PC's cooling situation for now and later reuse my current cooler for the server build

[real sierra]

programmers

I have an important question

[wide flicker]

👀?

[real sierra]

so

[olive sable]

so?

[real sierra]

I think it's reasonable to assume most android phones use gboard as their keyboard provider

[wide flicker]

Android user can confirm

[olive sable]

no

samsung phones all come standart with the samsung board

[real sierra]

ok

[olive sable]

afaik

[real sierra]

I still think most android phones aren't Samsung tho

[wide flicker]

Oh wait Sam's right I am using Samsung board KEK

[olive sable]

well yes, but its still a popular brand

[real sierra]

even if they hold a sizeable market share I doubt it's a majority

ok

problematic but maybe not

hear me out

I would assume keyboard providers send "anonymized" usage statistics on common word sequences to their parent companies so they can improve the pre-trained autocorrect model right

[olive sable]

Samsung holds around 20-30% of the global mobile vendor market share i think this still includes apple so probably a bit higher but idk

[olive sable]

ye i think so

[real sierra]

so

[sage crag]

shimo

[sage crag]

wrong

[real sierra]

is it possible to test if a particular word sequences has some pre-assigned weight to it or not

more concretely, how do I tell if "happy birthday Shiro" has made it into the base autocorrect model

[olive sable]

actually we're tralking only about samsung now, but other brands also use their own keyboard probably

[sage crag]

each big phone manufacturer has its own flavour of android and each of them has its own keyboard

[sage crag]

ye no, forever live with fear

[real sierra]

Motorola uses gboard

[sage crag]

aosp derivative

[olive sable]

motorola

[real sierra]

still gboard

[tender river]

not necessarily, aosp keyboard isnt gboard

[real sierra]

brother I am ON the phone this is gboard

[sage crag]

i dunno what motorola uses by default

[tender river]

[real sierra]

the settings say it sends usage statistics to google

[sage crag]

considering how much sway google has over android it could still be aosp

[real sierra]

ok regardless this is all tangential

stop arguing semantics and avoiding my question

[sage crag]

mrm

[real sierra]

rrrrrr programmers

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

72-74% of the phone market is android
samsung's 20-30% becomes when normalizing for android 27-41%
and then look at the other phone manufactureres for their data i guess, im too lazy

but at least 40% doesn't use gboard

[real sierra]

i could get a quicker answer asking vedal if he wants to marry me

[tender river]

shiro happy birthday

[sage crag]

"no"

[real sierra]

you mean "yes"

[sage crag]

@vedal

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

why vedal not responding to ping in codeblock

[tender river]

t would never

[sage crag]

t would never

[real sierra]

badly coded bot

[sage crag]

!felloff

[stiff mica]

[sage crag]

does

!tldr

no

vani give me bot perms

[wide flicker]

Maybe this is me talking out my ass, but realistically, I'd imagine that names are the most common followup to "Happy Birthday", and I dont think names get autocorrected, so I dont think "happy birthday Shiro" would be modeled;;

[real sierra]

no not perms for u

[wide flicker]

But happy birthday shiro!

[sage crag]

!nothing

[stiff mica]

Nothing ever happens, all-in

[tender river]

!bwaa

[stiff mica]

[real sierra]

"happy birthday to"

[sage crag]

!cookie

wgat

[stiff mica]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 31 cookies! | I've received 242858 cookies total!

[wide flicker]

Oh good point

[real sierra]

!cookie

[sage crag]

why would you think that works

[stiff mica]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 6 cookies! | I've received 242859 cookies total!

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

[tender river]

stop giving this kid diabetes

[sage crag]

vami fix the bot pls

literally unusable

[tender river]

!discord

[stiff mica]

discord.gg/neurosama

[real sierra]

I'm joining

[tender river]

thanks neurobot

[sage crag]

im not

looks dumb

[rigid snow]

mods annihilate neurobot for promo

[real sierra]

may 2019

[sage crag]

39810 online, where are they all

fake members

bots

[tender river]

i am working on a solution dont worry

[real sierra]

many probably are, that's why you can't gift nitro here

[sage crag]

what did you do to those 3000 people

[tender river]

secret

[olive sable]

i am 1, konii is 2, shiro is 3, chayleaf is 4, then we have 39.806 bots

[rigid snow]

i don't exist

[sage crag]

excuse you

im 1

[tender river]

im 0 i dont count sorry

[olive sable]

im getting cancelled fro counting now

[real sierra]

I'm a bot sorry

[olive sable]

crazy

[real sierra]

nothing new

[sage crag]

ye no way human can have birthday every day

[real sierra]

this server used to have a counting thread

[rigid snow]

does a television set not count as a bot

[real sierra]

it was the most toxic channel in the server

[sage crag]

noe

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

im not bot, bot is vibe

:mhm:

[maiden geyser]

expected?

[sage crag]

i pass the turing test right

[rigid snow]

then i'm bot

[olive sable]

oh ye ive been in a counting channel before. i made ad campaigns to get to 10K.
after we hit 10K almost everybody stopped including me

[real sierra]

the counting thread

[sage crag]

shiro lazy just stealing from log zzz

Deleted User

[real sierra]

"we are doing counting, not repeating" 💔

I don't even know what I did wrong

this was the first time I ever typed there

[real sierra]

when we were getting too close to 10k we made them start counting backwards

[olive sable]

bruh

[sage crag]

u did to yourself

[real sierra]

the above happened at like 4000

[sage crag]

sharpest shiro knife in the world

new upload by kiwami japan

[real sierra]

I would watch

[sage crag]

made from shiro cube

[real sierra]

I think I'd make a good knife

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1375623285894807563/IMG_6849.gif

[olive sable]

in our coutning we had regular counting where only the next number got accepted, which we got to 10K on. then we had counting-hard where if you mess up you start back at 0.
needless to say the pb there is sub 1000

[sage crag]

used for cutting birthday cake

[real sierra]

surely AI tools are advanced enough to edit texture onto those videos

[sage crag]

:sherm:

why this not automodded

[rigid snow]

no. you must suffer for 30 hours in after effects

[olive sable]

or jsut open blender and slap a texture on there, and render it.
takes about 5 minutes

[sage crag]

render knife making video :mhm:

[real sierra]

prove it

[sage crag]

here is your reference video, have to make this into :sherm: knife video in under 5 minute

[real sierra]

( )

[sage crag]

though probably not too hard since its chocolate, just chroma key it to sherm

[real sierra]

luma key vs chroma key who wins

[olive sable]

it seems i may have misunderstood

[tender river]

we are doing counting shiro

[real sierra]

even three years later I still haven't recovered

[olive sable]

it hought we were talking about slapping a texture onto the object. i didnt account for having it be part of the video

[sage crag]

erf

do both

luma+chroma key

[real sierra]

noper only one

[sage crag]

curse

[real sierra]

choose

god that reminds me

[sage crag]

can i use hsv in my chroma key

[real sierra]

once upon a time I wanted a really specific effect for a stream

so I ended up handwriting a custom shader

[sage crag]

no one write shader in 21st century, download premade effects or use nodes

[real sierra]

it worked but i felt bad about the entire experience

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

Sam would be proud of me

[olive sable]

i mean, there are diffrent kinds of shaders

[sage crag]

nop no shaders

[real sierra]

it was written in cuda

[olive sable]

bruh

[sage crag]

shaders for interns

write in blender nodes only

[olive sable]

nah

[real sierra]

don't have blendwr

blender stinky ewwwww

[sage crag]

free open s ource software

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

hot take

[tender river]

are you using autodesk maya or something

[real sierra]

open source is not always a good thing and people should stop acting like it's an automatic plus

[sage crag]

du

[olive sable]

eh

[sage crag]

open source very often good but nuance

isnt my take a stupid phrase

🤔

[olive sable]

i dont have strong opinions on open-source vs closed-source so idk
as long as nobody steals my stuff

[sage crag]

what is the etymology of this is my take on xyz

[real sierra]

?

just another way to preface that the following contents are opinion, not fact

[sage crag]

ye ye

but like

phrase

[tender river]

maybe from double take?

[sage crag]

okey secondary question where does that come from

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

I think it comes from "take" as in interpretation

e.g. "my take on that movie is..."

[sage crag]

ye but why take mean interpretation

[real sierra]

oh

well from filmmaking I can see it

a "take" being a particular shoot of a scene

different takes can evoke different feelings from the audience if they're trying things out

and then it somehow leaked into popular culture?

[sage crag]

hm i think its more likely to be due to

X takes on Y

as in the #programming takes on a silly air

[tender river]

the #programming

[sage crag]

ye

so maybe it comes from to take onto oneself

[real sierra]

seems weird

[sage crag]

in which case the meaning of it as a synonym for interpretation is fairly recent

🤔

[real sierra]

the meaning seems too far

[sage crag]

language

[real sierra]

someone call an etymologist

[sage crag]

🤔

nrm

[patent walrus]

@faint sandal u excited for IDA 9.2

[faint sandal]

there seems to be a lot

i need some more rust/golang optimizations

[hollow spruce]

I hate install clang gcc

@####@@@## slow install
(8B/s)

Finally great speed

[olive sable]

i broke my code again, its now using llvmpipe for rendering for some reason

[hollow spruce]

Ure network vs my network

[hollow spruce]

Let me see

[olive sable]

ill figure it out, i, just refactoring

[hollow spruce]

Good

Im still figuring out how to fast my internet

[rigid snow]

pay more money to the isp probably

[stray dragon]

whuh

[stray dragon]

hwuh

[hollow spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-5035506561769540864

[tender river]

[sage crag]

ye

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/sonochichi/status/1964744126026711541

sono✖️🌗 (@sonochichi)

gemini can literally k*ll itself it's fucking insane😭

Quoting Sauers (@Sauers_)
︀
A tip when using Gemini as a coding agent is giving it emotional support. Without this, it tends to panic and irrevocably delete all of its work in a fit of despair. It needs to know it is doing a good job

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FxTwitter · Sep 7, 2025, 5:34 PM

[opaque sigil]

i remember when i was wrestling with pipewire one day gemini kept spiralling, i'm sure it would've loved to do this if it had the ability to

[sage crag]

phr

[opaque sigil]

Konii, as the resident hash table knower
How do I efficiently insert in parallel into a bunch of buckets without having to lock the entire bucket

This is with cuckoo hashing

[sage crag]

solution is to stop using buckets and use a flat hash table

buckets have limitations

i assume this is rust? i dont think there's a way to insert into a Vec in parallel without locking without use of external libraries or unsafe

[tender river]

why do you need to insert in parallel

[sage crag]

ye seem dubious

traditional hashtable very bad for concurrency

[opaque sigil]

This is in cuda

[sage crag]

oh ye toasted

why on earth do you need hashmap in cuda

[opaque sigil]

To go brrrr obviously

[sage crag]

noe hashmap have so much branching

bad bad bad

[opaque sigil]

It's not that bad smh

[sage crag]

what is your usecase

possible XY problem?

[opaque sigil]

There's none, this is for uni

[sage crag]

actually cuckoo hashing isnt too bad on gpus in theory, this is fair

[tender river]

generally you'd want to compile the data first and merge later

[sage crag]

ye sharing rw data structures between gpu threads sounds like death

[opaque sigil]

Welcome to my life

I do have a working version that's about 40x faster than the cpu only one for batch insertion and querying so that's nice at least

Was just wondering if there's a way to not lock

[sage crag]

if you are using gpu memory then what are your buckets represented as

[opaque sigil]

An array of structs

I still need to do actual profiling

[sage crag]

ye but like

wrong reply

oops

is it a nested list

[tender river]

bigger hashmap

[opaque sigil]

I guess you could call it that

The problem is parallel eviction

There will be lots of collisions

[sage crag]

so you arent using a flat array

[opaque sigil]

Okay technically I lied I'm making a cuckoo filter

I am not

Was considering that though

[sage crag]

please switch to using a flat array for the hash table

gpu hates non-linear/discontinuous memory reads

• you will be able to insert in parallel to the hash table as a flat map, in theory

[opaque sigil]

I mean, the bucket itself is linear so that's not an issue

Feel like trying to make it more linear in the top level is a waste of time considering they're indexed by hashes

[sage crag]

in my experience having the whole hash table as a single array made the programming significantly simpler, at least in hblang

[opaque sigil]

Depends on the probing scheme I guess, cuckoo hashing is kind of fucked in that regard since you're just jumping around like crazy

[sage crag]

hey this isnt how i remember leaving my hashmap

i thought i split the entries into separate arrays for k,v

[tender river]

it may be bad for concurrency though

[sage crag]

well, maybe i reverted that due to caching

[tender river]

you want buckets

even in a flat arary

[sage crag]

perhaps

[tender river]

additionally gpu may or may not have less caching involved no idea

no prefetching and branch prediction

[sage crag]

gpu cache lane size being a multiple of your data size is all you get for gpu prefetching

[sage crag]

tost

you need to submit an empty file in protest

[opaque sigil]

okay

[marsh field]

hello guys

[opaque sigil]

pc does not like flat array

[sage crag]

cinema

i will never assume i understand how gpus work again

[opaque sigil]

you'd think having that many more slots to lock independently would help but i guess not

[sage crag]

what if you program without locks

[opaque sigil]

it also lost 16% of the items

[sage crag]

fearless concurrency (blindness)

[sage crag]

sound like you made mistake

[opaque sigil]

losing a couple is fine

since they're being overwritten

but uhh not 16%

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

oe static size?

[opaque sigil]

oh wait i can't read

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

it didn't lose much

it just overwrote during insertion

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

and lost them that way ig

[sage crag]

is it still more than with buckets?

if so you may have some fun collisions

maybe missing some range of values on your hasher or something

[opaque sigil]

../src/BucketsTableGpu.cuh:190 out of memory

oh

ah right

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

i asked for n/32 buckets with n slots each

lol

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

n being 1 << 20

so yeah

checks out

[sage crag]

uh

[opaque sigil]

either way

878693 / 1048576 no buckets
1048309 / 1048576 buckets

these made it through insertion

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

1 << 15 buckets of size 1 << 20 items, or 1 << 35 items total

[opaque sigil]

99.97% vs 83.8%

[sage crag]

nyurm

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

my poor gpu

[rigid snow]

that's a aa lot of 🪣s

[opaque sigil]

i should test this on the a100

surely it can handle that much data

[sage crag]

erm

assuming each item is 1 byte

[olive sable]

i dont know what we're talking about but thats a lot of buckets

[opaque sigil]

let's say they're 4 bytes

32 bits per fingerprint

[sage crag]

ye it over for you

(4 * 34359738368) / (1024 * 1024 * 1024)

128 gigabytes

[olive sable]

just use less buckets

[rigid snow]

or maybe get one of these

[olive sable]

gta 5 ran on 256mb of vram, im sure you could figure something out

[opaque sigil]

damn, 2 a100s it is i guess

surely partitioning the data across multiple gpus can't be that bad right

or i could just do the sensible thing and use less bits for the fingerprint

[sage crag]

lockful gpu programming

[sage crag]

ye, half

[opaque sigil]

who needs collision free hashing anyway

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

i odnt get what we're even talkign baout