programming

[jovial remnant]

I tried placing neuro plushie into an image and then changing its clothing, and it did quite a good job

[midnight sigil]

[tender river]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Temporal

[rigid snow]

the company, maxon, makes a 3d software product called cinema4d, it's analogous to blender and autodesk maya. they decided to make a free thing called cinebench so you can see how fast a computer can render in c4d without buying the software. i started 3d on c4d in like 2014, it's not obscure by any means. c4d is pretty popular for CGI work

[tender river]

new javascript builtin just dropped

[midnight sigil]

[uneven pulsar]

[midnight sigil]

3D VFX is doomed

I should quit Blender and use AI instead

fr fr

[uneven pulsar]

should i use ai to make me game a 3d character

like I once tried to use ai to generate me a character for a fps game

but the rigging sucks

[midnight sigil]

oh no the topology

[uneven pulsar]

topology is also dogshit

[maiden geyser]

nothing? i may have suggestions

[midnight sigil]

AI generated topology is not ready for game-use, yet

they are getting better tho

[rigid snow]

Chatting "generate a highly detailed anime woman 800k polygons"

[midnight sigil]

also parenting and shape keys

[uneven pulsar]

Yknow never mind💀

[nocturne olive]

Particularly interesting

[rigid snow]

you meant to say silly

[midnight sigil]

imagine using c4d in 2025

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

[midnight sigil]

Blender benchmark better

[rigid snow]

i'm on blender now of course

[nocturne olive]

Is there even a Blender equivalent to Cinabench?

[rigid snow]

just dowbload blender xd

[nocturne olive]

I suck at it

[midnight sigil]

https://opendata.blender.org/

[nocturne olive]

That's actually crazy

[uneven pulsar]

you would need a chunky pc to run blender

and plus if you don’t use it its just pure bloatware

[rigid snow]

what arer you saying

[midnight sigil]

what

I mean it is kinda bloated

too many features yk

thank god it's opensource and I can just delete a module

[rigid snow]

you don't have to use any of them

[midnight sigil]

I think blender's benchmark is a dedicated binary

so no worries on that

[glass flower]

it downloads blender before starting the benchmark

[rigid snow]

oh so they do have a benchmark thing

[midnight sigil]

probably a reduced version then

[midnight sigil]

it's up in the link I sent

[glass flower]

i think its the full version and its just running in headless

[nocturne olive]

It doesn't run on the background though, so it's not really bloat

[glass flower]

it also needs to download the benchmark scene's so about 1gb of things

[midnight sigil]

I see

[nocturne olive]

Kinda SMOL compared to my 29TB of space

[glass flower]

seems to run full blender in the background

"This benchmark ranks in the top 0% of all benchmarks. "

[midnight sigil]

does that mean you beat that 1%, or you failed the 100%

[uneven pulsar]

I forgot i have a passage exam in python

[hollow spruce]

I hate
(Too many requests)
And this error
Microsoft
Sign in
Sorry, but we’re having trouble signing you in.

AADSTS900561: The endpoint only accepts POST requests. Received a GET request

[midnight sigil]

AADSTS900561

[safe path]

i am resisting the urge to migrate to spacemacs / doom

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-logo-doom-video-game-logo-gif-14624225

[glass flower]

"Spacemacs: Emacs advanced Kit focused on Evil" ?

[sage crag]

write your own

emacs clone

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1409333118405574826/3dgifmaker76610.gif

[tender river]

torvalds has one

[sage crag]

torvalds isnt real

fake

[tender river]

torvalds019

[olive sable]

the gif's konii uses seem to change every 2 weeks or so

[tender river]

neurorbhd

[sage crag]

what gifs were i using before

[olive sable]

we are on chromatic aberation neuroorb now

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/rwk-priest-crow-awawawawa-awa-azumanga-daioh-gif-24354610

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mejiro-mcqueen-spin-umamusume-anime-girl-cute-gif-26001972

[olive sable]

that one too ye

[sage crag]

no, wrong

i used this one

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-nano-spinning-gif-12626501756826392034

[olive sable]

i clearly remmeber you saying "type awawawawa in the gif finder and sen the 3rd one" or something like that

[sage crag]

yes, but i didnt use it after that

[olive sable]

ok fair enouhg

[uneven pulsar]

hi

[olive sable]

hi

[uneven pulsar]

sup

[olive sable]

sup

[final tinsel]

hi #programming! I'm coming here from #1403977329289728091, because we have a problem. Basically, we are organizing our art using Trello (https://trello.com/b/uIy1Iv6C/swarm-wplace) because, well, it was the first thing i thought of- and I didnt expect this project to become so large. The problem now is that to continue using this board would require either downscaling to 10 members (which defeats the point) or buying a paid plan, which is billed per user. Since the trello has about 130 members, that would be insta-debt for me. Recently someone in the wplace thread found this open-source self-hosted project (https://github.com/plankanban/planka?tab=readme-ov-file) that could replace the Trello board, so I wanted to ask here if anyone would be able to work with me to set this up- ideally in some sort of always-on system, as while i often forget to turn my computer off, I don't want to always have it on.

[sage crag]

holy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1043904104637944028/1124170339375657031/essaying.gif

[olive sable]

give us a sec to do the context switch

[final tinsel]

we may actually have this situated

[sage crag]

they need help self hosting a trello clone

[olive sable]

oh

[sage crag]

im sure someone can do that but thats in the least of my interests

[olive sable]

set up a server i guess?

[sage crag]

it needs to be cheapish

[olive sable]

it doens thave to be an actual server server, you can use any old latpop

probably

[nocturne olive]

Silly

[tender river]

oracle cloud is free

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile I have this very powerful PC/server just sitting around

[sage crag]

bragging or being helpful?

[olive sable]

superbox why do you always feel the need to interject the convo to boast?

[final tinsel]

@peak ingot since you are working on this already (if i understand correctly), I wanted to bring u here

[nocturne olive]

I don't know, what would I get for it
I kinda have a billion servers already

[sage crag]

if not helpful then just bragging

[nocturne olive]

I'm offering a server spot in exchange for something useful to me

[olive sable]

so either use the oracle stuff chay mentioned, or self-host it i guess?

[peak ingot]

I'm in the process of self hosting it

Nodejs is being weird for me atm

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

My old port 443 stuff was NodeJS
Now I'm replacing it with Kotlin

[olive sable]

the only times ive had the displeasure of using nodejs was when we were playing screeps

everytime i stopped playing screeps discord still said i was playing it due to nodejs still running in the background

or something like that idk, it went away after killing the task

[nocturne olive]

Screeps server in Kotlin when?

[final tinsel]

misread that as discord showed you were playing nodejs lol

[olive sable]

ask the devs not us

[nocturne olive]

Well, I guess my server is not needed then

[rough bloom]

"server"

[nocturne olive]

Very server, it has static IP and is always online

[rigid timber]

hey, it serves something, technically a server

[nocturne olive]

Yep, that too

Such as once again serving my pxls notification sound

[olive sable]

i dont like the if statements in my main loop but there is no way to replace them
besides that it has gotten pretty clean

while (running)
{
    const VkFence fence = syncManager.inFlightFences[currentFrame];
    const VkSemaphore imgAvailable = syncManager.imageAvailableSemaphores[currentFrame];
    vkWaitForFences(deviceManager.device, 1, &fence, VK_TRUE, UINT64_MAX);

    VkResult result = vkAcquireNextImageKHR(deviceManager.device, frameManager.swapChain, UINT64_MAX, imgAvailable, VK_NULL_HANDLE, &imageIndex);

    if (result == VK_ERROR_OUT_OF_DATE_KHR)
    {
        recreateSwapChain();
        continue;
    }
    else if (result != VK_SUCCESS && result != VK_SUBOPTIMAL_KHR)
    {
        throw std::runtime_error("failed to acquire swap chain image!");
    }

    vkResetFences(deviceManager.device, 1, &fence);

    submitQueue(fence, imgAvailable);
    presentImg();

    currentFrame = ++currentFrame % MAX_FRAMES_IN_FLIGHT;
    frameCount++;
}

[final tinsel]

server

[nocturne olive]

As long as the ifs are not on the GPU it's fine

[olive sable]

this is not shadercode

[nocturne olive]

Then the branch predictor most likely has you covered

[olive sable]

i know youre not supposed to do branching on gpu

[olive sable]

ye but i still dont like it

its the only thing making the code look bad

[rigid timber]

actually ifs are fine if they evaluate to the same result on all execution units within the group

[sage crag]

idempotent branch is a useless branch

[rough bloom]

taking a different branch should be fine as long as it happens on a different CU

[tender river]

partial evaluation

λλλ

[olive sable]

i prefer just avoiding it all toghether, but i think i have a singular if on my shadowmapping code maybe

[safe path]

aaaaaaaa yesssssss creating a freaking color object causes the undocumented functions to actually take effect

ok here is the context, hear me out

im trying to make my own compositor

[tender river]

compositor

[safe path]

so i've been setting the input shape of my window to an empty region right

[tender river]

wlroots or smithay or something else

[noble zodiac]

let me guess, you are just realizing that there is no documentation whatsoever for that bullshit that is wayland

[safe path]

but it doesn't take effect until i do another x11 protocol call

no i don't even want to touch wayland atm

[noble zodiac]

wait what

well akschually then you are not making a compositor but a window manager

[safe path]

no im making a compositor

[dry charm]

vanor and wayland

[olive sable]

it seems like my shaders didnt get saved to my repo and i cant be bothered to start up windows rn

[noble zodiac]

no wait, its vanor, so its a compositor within emacs

ofc

[safe path]

https://wingolog.org/archives/2008/07/26/so-you-want-to-build-a-compositor

im basically doing this but in rust

so the issue i faced yesterday was that x11rb does this:
CreateRegion
DeleteRegion
SetRegion
DeleteRegion

why? because let region = CreateReigon...
falls out of scope before I do SetRegion

in C++ it doesn't do that because you manage memory on your own

so after fixing that, i used xtrace to figure out wtf else im doing differently from that c++ code

and then i found out a single call to XCreateColor after setting the input region was required to properly set the input shape down to an empty region

but for some reason flushing doesn't do the same thing so i've been ??? this entire time

[noble zodiac]

wait so what does this as oppose to a window manager

[safe path]

draws pretty shadows probably
i'm making a compositor for another reason tho

in x11 + i3 u usually use compton for this

or whatever fork of compton

but i need a compositor for a certain hobby of mine

turns out compositors are just x11 windows that you can't interact with at all, so what people like to call XOverlays

[tender river]

[safe path]

x11 is so old, but somehow XFixesCreateRegion is completely undocumented

[sage crag]

good codebase

[tender river]

good thing we decided to replace it with a billion xml files now there's no bad code, or any code at all for that matter

[noble zodiac]

the concept of compositor within x11 is wild to me and somehow I have never heard of it before

[weary linden]

Hey, I think I missed like all of the conversation, but I think there are no compositors in X11? They are only Wayland, no?

[safe path]

https://github.com/chjj/compton

surely not the wildest thing u've seen

[noble zodiac]

I'm just not a ricer so it never crossed my mind I guess

also I'm using my own window manager so I would just add any features in there instead of wrapping it in another software

[rigid snow]

i remember having to install one for stuff like window shadows and blur in a simple wm

[noble zodiac]

It's just confusing because compositor in wayland means something different than in x11

[weary linden]

might be just a naming convention then

[safe path]

also just a side note i find it really funny that all of the compositor code basically lives in here: https://github.com/chjj/compton/blob/master/src/compton.c

it uses so many undocumented APIs i can't even

[rigid snow]

yeah it doesn't do the same compositing they do in wayland

[noble zodiac]

surely there is a fork of compton that is.... readable

[tender river]

currently extending my lisp to get rid of the remaining bit that cant be reified into a continuation

[sage crag]

amogus osu

[tender river]

815

[sage crag]

toll free

[tender river]

woo

[dark wing]

a

[olive sable]

@stray dragon we found a

[stray dragon]

a was found in other channels a long while back lol

[olive sable]

ah

is april really that long ago?

dman

[final tinsel]

no, a

[olive sable]

fuck april is 4 months ago

[final tinsel]

-# wait til this guy realizes 2019 was 6 years ago

[olive sable]

nah that im aware off

[final tinsel]

ah

that one hit me like a truck neurocar

[tender river]

i cant believe 2007 was 23 years ago

[olive sable]

i started middle school in 2019 ans ended it this year

ah yes

i am 23 years old

[uneven pulsar]

umm

why do I lack typing perms for vc chats?

[olive sable]

vc chat has been discontinued

[uneven pulsar]

u mean in this server?

[olive sable]

use #voice-text

they closed vc chat

[uneven pulsar]

my bad

[rigid snow]

\

[uneven pulsar]

bad design choice

[olive sable]

theyd idnt do it because it looks good

[uneven pulsar]

\o/

[olive sable]

its probably cuz its easier to mod or something idk

im not a mod

[uneven pulsar]

TwT

[olive sable]

cry about it

[rigid snow]

so rude

[uneven pulsar]

won't this mix up concurrent chats? too?

[olive sable]

i guess

[uneven pulsar]

<insert crying gif and use your imagination for extra sound quality>

[uneven pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/sanae-cry-gif-4079456827647134662

...

[olive sable]

classic embed failure

[uneven pulsar]

srsly who manages this server.

[olive sable]

its cuz you dont have embed perms, jsut chat a bit more and you'l receive them

this is just to combat bots and such

[safe path]

[olive sable]

hi vanor

[uneven pulsar]

:c

[olive sable]

vanor is my assumption correct or did yall close vc chat for other reasons?

[uneven pulsar]

good. I can;t even share files too

[safe path]

did you read the FAQ yet? you need to get embed perms for that

[uneven pulsar]

mb :c

[safe path]

no problem, everyone is new at some point! here's the FAQ: #1326303411041206303 message

[uneven pulsar]

ty!!

```By being active in text channels. Specifically, you must first obtain 1000 server points: you receive 10-20 points on every message with a 2 minute cooldown. To check your progress, go to ⁠bot-channel and type-in t!rank. Note that messages in ⁠bot-channel , ⁠voice-text and ⁠swarm do not give any points.`````

hmm
so I have to
send 100 (or less ) txt msg

idk what konii is doing in VC. but it sure is addictive

[olive sable]

osu

[tender river]

https://osu.ppy.sh

[uneven pulsar]

they colsed voice chat?

[coral echo]

Well I just started doing two stuff at same time, learning how to html css cause i suck and my professor sounds like dead fish in his tutorial videos so im checking another from YouTube and learning now about Mistral to learn how to make AI

[tender river]

no no no better link https://osu.ppy.sh/teams/2303

[olive sable]

not voice chat, the text chat of voice chat

[coral echo]

I think what he meant for new people they cant chat there? Hol up lemme check by rejoining server

[tender river]

[olive sable]

for everyone no?

they closed it

[uneven pulsar]

oooooH

[uneven pulsar]

what is osu about?

[olive sable]

rhytm game

you click the circles and stuff

[coral echo]

Oh i understood incorrectly

[uneven pulsar]

yeah i dont think i could

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[olive sable]

anyways i gotta eat, bye

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060090228615958528/1399774653563666495/osu.gif

[uneven pulsar]

i think fnf better

[coral echo]

The threads inside vc is what they meant

[uneven pulsar]

ooo

[uneven pulsar]

aha

[coral echo]

Sorry i understood incorrectly

[crimson thunder]

started playing osu few weeks ago, can i join?

[tender river]

send application and dm ingame

[uneven pulsar]

from my understanding... its a game about muscle mind connection

[coral echo]

Anyways if anyone have any good tutorials for mistral or on creating AI, im interested in them

[tender river]

most of osu is about reading, not about muscle memory

[uneven pulsar]

yeah never mind

fnf better for me

[tender river]

you basically have to learn the specific angles in which you have move your cursor

this is something you get through experience, but its not muscle memory

you can just switch from mouse to tablet (or vice versa) and it wont take that long

or change your tablet to a different one

[tender river]

you also have to learn ways of focusing on particular screen spots

[uneven pulsar]

I thought he's using somesort of a stylus bc those movements look unnatural for a mouse

[tender river]

she*

yes she's using a tablet, there are many mouse top players though

[uneven pulsar]

ah

mb

[uneven pulsar]

Ooo

[tender river]

main advantage of tablet is no mouse drift

[uneven pulsar]

iC

[tender river]

main disadvantage is nib wear and potential grip issues

[uneven pulsar]

hmm

[tender river]

and of course osu! is a rhythm game so you also have to learn following the rhythm

and finger control for tapping the circles with your keyboard

though i personally dont use fingers for tapping

[uneven pulsar]

If I were a player, I wouldn't as well

[tender river]

[tender river]

also this is how the game looks at the highest level https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDDEhCodb3g

the patterns themselves are something you can play just fine like 1k hours into the game, but executing it at that speed takes much much much more practice

[uneven pulsar]

damn crazy

[uneven pulsar]

yea... it already feels overwhelming js by watching it...

[tender river]

there are many different skillsets too

but anyway wouldnt wanna flood #programming with osu!

[elder nymph]

what are you guys' thoughts on LangChain? I can't tell if it's actually useful or just a trap for Enterprise™ users

[uneven pulsar]

i just found out this is in my sticker collection

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1375623285894807563/IMG_6849.gif

[uneven pulsar]

is shiro a guy

or a girl

i am confused

[tender river]

Shiro Cube

[olive sable]

ok i think i have the avr sorted out now, just gotta do a quick 100km train ride to the guys house and back. buying 2ndhand is always a fun experience 🥀

at least its only 450 while newprice is 1800

oh they asked if i wanted to go tomorrow

guess il buy my tickets now

[uneven pulsar]

node js

https://tenor.com/opzNveRopmN.gif

I am done with node js

[olive sable]

tickets have been bought

im getting my Denon AVR-X6200W tomorrow

the setup im gonna need to use will be really cursed
the current subwoofer uses a proprietary jvc connector cuz it also has built-in amps for the full 5.1.
since the new avr doesnt support that i will need to daisy-chain the avr's

new avr's subwoofer out will go into the old avr's audio in, which will then need to go to the sub

[fast pagoda]

holy shit she's literally me

[tender river]

linkedin is somehow even worse than i expected

[olive sable]

what? they have puzzle games?

why????

[tender river]

money

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

vk docs:

We went for the first approach, which ensures that the mapped memory always matches the contents of the allocated memory. Do keep in mind that this may lead to slightly worse performance than explicit flushing, but we'll see why that doesn't matter in the next chapter.

nooo worse performance

[sage crag]

conveniently ignoring

, but we'll see why that doesn't matter in the next chapter.

[olive sable]

ye but im not there yet

also to make the triangle stuff faster i made it so each framebuffer had a seperate commandbuffer, but the vulkan tutorial doesnt have that so now i need to figure out how to modify their code

would be easy if i knew what i was actually doing, but this is the first time ive made a vertexbuffer in vulkan

[earnest basin]

yo any tips for me who's about to go to a programing school?

[karmic birch]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-banana-kali-kali-linux-linux-computer-gif-20207141

[olive sable]

from my near-zero experience teachers like it when you place some comments so they know what you're trying to do even if the code is shit

[earnest basin]

lol

will take note while learning

so puts comments on the code im writhing so the teacher actually understands what im doing

understood🫡

[olive sable]

beisdes that im not too sure, i havent had many programming classes yet

[earnest basin]

yeah im going to full on programming class like actual school like grades to decide my future

[olive sable]

[earnest basin]

hopefully my worst fears don't come coding that is too much for my brain to handle

[olive sable]

the triangle 🔺, now featuring a vertexbuffer

the code has rgb values for each vertex too but im jsut not uing that in the shader

maybe i should

is it just me or is the red not very red?

[sage crag]

its not

its orange

[olive sable]

oh good

i thought "i know im colourblind but was it always this bad?"

it looks more red on my screen, i guess it has to do with how hyprland screenshots work?

[amber fractal]

Looks like the vertex buffer maps the entire screen instead of just triangle

[olive sable]

wdym?

[olive sable]

oh i get what you mean

nah that shouldnt be an issue

it should be mapping full red to the vertex positions

i think it has to do with what colourprofile my screenshots get saved as, cuz it does look red on my screen

[amber fractal]

Yeah that could be it

Also I'm surprised this has not been brought up yet

The madlads actually did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZRG7Og61mw

[olive sable]

so can you just get a new mb or gpu without upgrading the actual laptop?

[amber fractal]

Yep

So many people I talked to were waiting for an nvidia option

[olive sable]

while i dont really care about the brand of my zapped mineral cube, it is nice to have options

[amber fractal]

Also 100w 5070 is going to shread geez

Well they said up to

[opaque sigil]

i wish they'd make a battery pack too

[olive sable]

the batteries on these will die so fast if this is actually something they support on battery

im geussing mostly meant for plugged in usage

[opaque sigil]

obviously

[amber fractal]

I always consider them portable desktops

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I've love to see a battery pack as well for these

[opaque sigil]

i wonder how that works with regulation

if it'd count separate from the laptop itself

since it'd technically be nothing more than a battery bank

[olive sable]

no officer im not taking a laptop with more than 20K mah onto the plane, im actually taking 4 10K mah battery exstension onboard

[amber fractal]

IIRC there is a separate limit

140K mah I think

[olive sable]

140K ?

[amber fractal]

ye

[olive sable]

makes sense

okay

[amber fractal]

Wait hmm

14K is the number, my brain got confused by K

That does mean you battery pack needs to be 4K mah

[olive sable]

if its classified as a seperate device coulnt it jsut be 10K?

[amber fractal]

Seems like I made that up, werid

16Kmah in a single device needs approval, but only 2 batteries of that size.

As long as it is separate I see no reason

[olive sable]

i woudl like to mention that i hate using nano and i open all my files in vscode

why does nano not use ctrl+c ctrl+v for copy pasting??? its so bad

[sage crag]

because nano was made before that convention existed

@midnight sigil do you have a spec for the awa5.0 bytecode that isnt trash

[sage crag]

try switching nano for micro

[olive sable]

[glass flower]

better than what vim uses still probably.. y to yank and p to paste. and yy to yank a line

[olive sable]

what

remind me to delete vim later

[amber fractal]

It's an interesting thing

[glass flower]

delete would be d or c or x. all of those delete something

[amber fractal]

I'm personally pulling up the emacs tutorial again

[glass flower]

im learning vim in vscode with the neovim extension

im getting better at it now a few days in. i can atleast navigate basic and generally edit things now

but im not "vim" levels of fast yet

[olive sable]

is it jsut me or is chatgpt5 worse?

liek it actually sucks

i find myslef going to gemini 5/10 times

[glass flower]

well.. what are you trying to do. could also be that their auto-router thing is still ass

[olive sable]

anything from bugfixing my code to changing setting on my linux

like the firefox hardware accelaration problem i was using gpt5 for 45 min and it wasnt working, and gemini fixed it in 2 minutes

[glass flower]

gpt5 is apparently really good at following orders, and not doing anything beyond that. so could be that your prompt is not good for the way gpt5 wants it to be

[olive sable]

seems like changing my monitor setting in hyprland.conf turns off numlock for some reason

[olive sable]

if gemini can do what i need then thats gpt5's problem

imma keep using gemini

[rigid snow]

i actually found gpt5 assertive which is good

[glass flower]

or.. do it the old fashion way and google your problem.

[olive sable]

for me it has been confidently incorect a lot tho

[olive sable]

nah

[glass flower]

ai for me is like the last resort when i can't find a good solution to a problem and not the first avenue

[olive sable]

ai is good for wehn im too lazy to put effort into something

[rigid snow]

please don't use it like that, speaking from experience

you'll end up questioning why you even bothered asking it in the first place

[glass flower]

but i've been doing that for 5 years now and its working great

[rigid snow]

then your problems aren't complex enough, you're good

[glass flower]

i start by googling finding solutions and then if i still didn't find the solution i use all the info i gathered to that point to ask ai for whatever i need

[olive sable]

gemini instantly fixed my hdr not being on, while gpt was telling me to change my vulkan code

[patent walrus]

ai is useful when i have something like 70% worked out in my head and i know i can figure the rest of it out but just want to do the thing i'm thinking of and see if it works out

[glass flower]

what would classify a problem complex enough?

[rigid snow]

for me they just become time wasting hallucination machines

they don't know but they can't say they don't know

because they've been trained to doubt themselves less because benchmark number go up

[glass flower]

well.. you should never ask ai for cold facts. but to combine informations and spit out a theory they are pretty good at

[rigid snow]

in this instance them not being able to solve them i guess...

[rigid snow]

every problem requires some set of facts

and they make them up

[glass flower]

well thats why im googling before hand to give them the facts in the prompt

[rigid snow]

at that point why not solve the thing yourself

[glass flower]

why not give the ai the task for it to solve in 30 seconds instead of me trying it in 30 minutes and getting to the same result?

like i rarely rarely need to use AI for anything. lately the only useful use for AI is asking qwen3-coder to rewrite c++ code to rust

[olive sable]

i made it worse somehow
i thought it was cuz my mmonitor didnt have hdr on while hyprland was set to 10 bit, but turning on hdr looks even more washed out

[rigid snow]

well, for me it's 30 seconds but it takes me up to 2 minutes to realize it's wrong, then 30 seconds to fix, something else wrong, and again and again to only realize it's all wrong and jank and it's already been an hour and i could've done the thing by thinking myself and writing it myself in 30 minutes

[patent walrus]

Toblerone

[glass flower]

yeah i don't trust ai with any kind of implementation stuff. but i rather ask for concepts and ideas for implementations rather than straight up code.

the only ai that touches my code is qwen2.5-coder for my autocomplete ( i hope there will be better ones someday...)

[rigid snow]

that's what i'm saying, it's great for refactoring/boilerplate but usually if you need a "last resort" at a problem while using an actual human brain and google and everything then the ai definitely doesn't know

and will make shit up and waste your time

[glass flower]

well i guess i kinda use it like a brainstorming thing. i throw everything i know at it and just let it guess to get new avenues for ideas

even if its wrong in that case, it might throw me a bone to the right direction

[rigid snow]

"oh it's easy you're so dumb user! just use this non-existent api with this non-existent package and a package from another ecosystem"

[glass flower]

[stray dragon]

i've got a weird and silly case of electrical whine, where doing some tasks on my PC (booting windows, starting servers, switching view in solidworks) cause the hardware to briefly vibrate at an audible pitch. it seems to be directly tied to power usage or processing of some sort within the gpu (RX 6600 XT), and seems to have nothing to do with the fans (the sound starts instantly when i start a hard task for the gpu and stops as soon as that task is done, so clearly not caused by temperature)

i'm not looking for help or anything, i don't think it's harmful, but it's interesting that i can directly hear the gpu struggling

it also changes pitch depending on how hard the task it's working on is, so each view angle in solidworks has its own little sound :)

[olive sable]

classic gpu whine probably

used to ge tthat on my 3060ti

back when i did a lot of stable diffusion it was always making noise exaclty when i started the diffusion

[olive sable]

my hyperland install is 12 days older than a supposed fix that the hyprland devs put in place already

[opaque sigil]

go update it then

[olive sable]

cachyos mirror stuff doesnt have it yet for some reason

im trying to figure it out tho

[opaque sigil]

install hyprland-git (you don't want this)

[olive sable]

apparently it got added on 2nd of agust, but the last official release is 19th of july

so ill need to install from git ye

its not working

[opaque sigil]

what are you trying to do

[olive sable]

so the most recent version is failing to build

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

...
...
...
../src/main.cpp:32:61: error: ‘XDPH_VERSION’ was not declared in this scope
   32 |             std::cout << "xdg-desktop-portal-hyprland v" << XDPH_VERSION << "\n";
      |                                                             ^~~~~~~~~~~~
ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.

[opaque sigil]

huh, that's defined by cmake

[amber fractal]

Hyprland fails for me so often that I wait months in between updates.

[opaque sigil]

unless it can't read the version file cause it's not there for some reason

[olive sable]

cachyos problem maybe?

[opaque sigil]

idk

Could be a cmake version problem for all I know

Invalid syntax that silently fails to declare the macro

[river oak]

bro what

[olive sable]

yes

[river oak]

Lol I left it on overnight to see how far it would get and I forgot about it
The tab crashed so I guess it is a real memory leak

[final tinsel]

guess where in here I closed the evil dog tab

also, its quite fitting for evil's first site to be a memory leak

also wait a sec, evil's site fixed something putting all my mem on standby somehow

6.4% gpu usage from spinning dog. thats impressive

[river oak]

What kind of training data had this hack

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

waht do yall use for taking screenshots on linux?

cuz this grimblast shit looks ass in hdr

[small anvil]

i personally use flameshot cause i havent found anything better
especially one where i can upload images to a server

[midnight sigil]

xfce screenshoter

[olive sable]

apparently that wont work

its a problem with wayland and not the screenshot app

[sage crag]

spectacle (will only work on kde)

[olive sable]

ok so while it would be possible to make a screenshot app myself with vulkan, i would need to account for the wayland weirdness

[safe path]

i have given up

i am now a c++ lover sorry rust friends

[olive sable]

welcome to the club

[small anvil]

we welcome you with open arms

[midnight sigil]

[safe path]

literally line by line the xtrace is the same except for some querying

it just doesn't like the xwindow created by the rust app for whatever the hell reason

i can't deal with this, im gonna just pull some random person's gtk implementation

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

we love gemini generating diagram images

Wayland
Wayland

gpu gpu
gpu

[safe path]

at least with gtk it'll work on wayland too albiet maybe positioning will be slightly off depending on how things are scaled

[fast pagoda]

lmao

[safe path]

don't tell chayleaf i've forsaken my rust implementation thanks

i will also be performing an unholy combination between c++ and js because i don't feel like implementing widgets in c++, so i'll layer a huge webkit over it

[olive sable]

i would say caught in 4K but this is barely readable

[safe path]

wtf happened there

[olive sable]

my hdr

[safe path]

[sage crag]

linux hdr

beautiful isnt it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1409333118405574826/3dgifmaker76610.gif

[safe path]

we should forsake guis

[sage crag]

i should make an hdr version of this gif so it burns the eyes of people with hdr screens

[olive sable]

ive been trying a bunch of post proccesing shit, but i dont think i can fix this shit

[safe path]

if we didn't have desktop environments we'd be in the year of linux frfr

[olive sable]

im pretty sure im losing a lot of datta cuz its clipping

[sage crag]

glueless

[sage crag]

i hate to say this but it just works with kde or gnome

[sage crag]

this is in fact hyprland

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300807614032121950/1409945130810609695/3dgifmaker99373.gif

[safe path]

consider exwm

[olive sable]

ye but kde or gnome dont activly hate you

[small anvil]

just use the shell instead

[sage crag]

exams no thanks

[safe path]

[sage crag]

vanor did you see my hbvm interpreter

[river oak]

explode hdr

[olive sable]

idk why but i kinda like hyprland, eventho hyprland seems to be doing everything in its power to make me dislike it

[safe path]

average hyprland experience

[sage crag]

hyprland isnt bad, its just not got nearly as much support as kde or gnome

[olive sable]

this is an abusive relationship fr fr

[sage crag]

they both have organisations behind them

and backing companies

and hundreds of devs

[midnight sigil]

what is that two wall, xbox looking thing on top right

ask it

[olive sable]

i have no clue, either the file system or the framebuffer???

[sage crag]

its unfortunately hard for passion projects to be competitive even in an open source space

its mostly a fault of the complex and bloated ecosystem of modern computing

[midnight sigil]

this seems like a gamut issue

are you mapping sRGB to P3 or smth?

[olive sable]

more like the opposite

[sage crag]

more like the opposite indeed

p3 is big, srgb is small

[olive sable]

i have vesa hdr 400 something something 10bit on my displays,a nd hyprland does actually render that from what i can tell correctly.

but the screenshotting tools all suck

[safe path]

wtf is the problem with gui shenanigans and fixing problems with sleep

[sage crag]

because they are trying not to blow up your cpu

and sometimes succeeding but mostly just freezing

[safe path]

that's pre main loop

[sage crag]

great

blame gtk

[safe path]

i agree

we should burn down all frameworks

start again

[sage crag]

[safe path]

it needs access to my accessibility bus, why

[sage crag]

to take control of your cursor

[safe path]

screw it, it gets sudo into my non-sandbox user

[sage crag]

and steal your passwords

[midnight sigil]

[safe path]

works

[sage crag]

its stealing your passwords successfully

yay

[safe path]

i have the source code and i read it it should be fine

[midnight sigil]

malware hidden in the compilation script

[safe path]

[sage crag]

malicious pkgbuild?

never

nuh uh

[safe path]

if i post scammed links will u ban me chat

[midnight sigil]

demodded

[sage crag]

i will ping @safe path and they will ban you

[midnight sigil]

[safe path]

[sage crag]

if vanor says mr beast is giving out $10k surely its real this time

[olive sable]

im startig to think taking hdr screenshots is jsut one of those rules of the universe

wherever i go it cant be done

im hitting drm issues now

[sage crag]

tell me if this screenshot sucks

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

it looks fine

[sage crag]

hdr screenshot

[olive sable]

but that cuz i didnt attempt to take it

wait a minute

can obs do hdr on here?

[sage crag]

should do

[olive sable]

my obs seems to be broken actually

nah this shit is also not hdr

fuck

[sage crag]

change obs colour space

its set to nv12 or something by default

[olive sable]

oh ye

nah that didnt relaly change anything

[dense marsh]

guys i need some help. i must have changed a setting on vscode or smt cos now this thing shows up where my mouse is and ive got edge scrolling

i have no idea what setting it is

[olive sable]

me neither

[dense marsh]

fuck

[sage crag]

who decided this was a good idea

[dense marsh]

[fast pagoda]

just a few branches

[fast pagoda]

editor.hover.scrollbar or editor.minimap.showHover or editor.scrollbar.verticalScrollbarSize or editor.scrollbar.verticalHasArrows or some combo of these

in the settings json

[dense marsh]

omg thanks

it was none of those

[fast pagoda]

damn

try stickyScroll

setting

[dense marsh]

made it inconsistent

[fast pagoda]

progress?

lol

[dense marsh]

and it only scrolls down now

[fast pagoda]

what kind of behavior is that lmfaoooo

why would it be half fixed that's crazy

"editor.stickyScroll.enabled": false,
"editor.hover.sticky": false,
"editor.hover.enabled": false
try setting all these false ig

[dense marsh]

did that

[fast pagoda]

shoot

[dense marsh]

wait

maybe not gimme a moment

[fast pagoda]

that 4 dot line unit is your mouse cursor or the text cursor?

[dense marsh]

the hover stuff did nothing

its my mouse

it goes to the line that my mouse is hovering

should i just stream it?

wait a minute

[fast pagoda]

https://www.reddit.com/r/vscode/comments/1dv6pw1/how_do_you_remove_this_cursortracking_dotted_line/

this thread seems to suggest that it might get fixed by dragging a file into vscode while this is happening lol

[dense marsh]

its only in that one window too

[fast pagoda]

https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/228009

it's an open issue i think

are you on linux

[dense marsh]

BRO

yea the dragging fixed it

[fast pagoda]

olooooll

[dense marsh]

the actual fuck

thanks afun

[fast pagoda]

yeah from the issue thread it's some linux specific interaction with dragging and dropping

you're welcome lol glad to help

[dense marsh]

weird ass issue

[fast pagoda]

just keep an emergency "wtf.txt" on desktop to drop in when it happens xd

[dense marsh]

no i just needed to grab and drop anyu existing file

basically just click and hold a file

[fast pagoda]

LOL

well don't worry they're surely on it

that issue has been open a whole year

[glad path]

who tf added a literal tree into github, twigs and all

[fast pagoda]

it's the AUR XD

well a backup of it

[glad path]

plucked it right from the soil and sent it into the digital realm

[fast pagoda]

every single package has its own branch

[tender river]

ok i wont

[sage crag]

i will

[sage crag]

@tender river look at this

[tender river]

WHAT

not using the Holy language?

[sage crag]

wrong language

this is on your contract

[tender river]

wa

not using the Blasphemous language?

[sage crag]

why do epubs compress so badly

[tender river]

nt

but C++

so

[sage crag]

un but regardless

[fast pagoda]

arent they already compressed

[safe path]

[sage crag]

yes in zip

[fast pagoda]

i thought epubs are unironically just zip files

[sage crag]

they are

i tried zstd and bzip2

and xz

and it only went down 16%

[fast pagoda]

that's more than i would have expected tbh

[sage crag]

all three

[fast pagoda]

oh

all 3 at once lol

[sage crag]

it took 5 minutes

yes

[fast pagoda]

delete all images from ur epubs (covers etc)

[tender river]

no

[sage crag]

the images are quintessential

[fast pagoda]

extract -> specifically recursively swap the images into tiny webps or something -> recompress into an epub

[sage crag]

im not a psychophant

but maybe

🤔

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1375623285894807563/IMG_6849.gif

sherm

[tender river]

extract -> compress with zstd/xz

[sage crag]

STOP LOOKING AT ME

[fast pagoda]

yeah but then it's not an epub anymore

[tender river]

it never was

epub isnt real

[sage crag]

tell the person on the other end to decompress

[fast pagoda]

i use .cab files myself

to store my cabinet worthy items

hit it wit da NNCP or CMIX

https://bellard.org/nncp/

uses transformers lule

supports cuda thank goodness i wouldnt be able to go on if my compression algo wasn't cuda enabled

take it further and extract all your epubs and then train your own bespoke transformer model to achieve the highest compression you can on specifically YOUR epubs

[olive sable]

does this look good-ish?

[sage crag]

very washed out

[olive sable]

it looks a lot better than before but ye comparig it to my sdr one its bad

[fast pagoda]

woould be a good palette for a mallwave album

very aesthetic

[olive sable]

the reds just look brown

[olive sable]

awawa

ignore the screenshot quality, im working on it

[fast pagoda]

awawa

[sage crag]

why interpreter faster compiling with oz than o3

only on gcc though

[fast pagoda]

the gods have decided that your code is special

[sage crag]

on clang its the same speed

[fast pagoda]

that's why we love gcc

stuff just happens

[sage crag]

292 with -Os, march&mtune native

on gcc

whereas only 245 with the same args on clang

which is strange

because on o3 clang is better than gcc o3

turning on lto makes it go down to 270

idfk any more

[fast pagoda]

compilers are magic

[olive sable]

ive been on this hdr bullshit for 4 hours now
gemini said "you can build a program to get the raw stream from PipeWire using the org.freedesktop.portal.ScreenCast API"
and im now jsut like "cant you do tthat tho? please?"

we love vibe coding

[fast pagoda]

according to my quick le google which is always helpful and not at all irrelevant, clang has a more conservative o2 than gcc and specifically it does not use loop vectorization and has less aggressive inlining on o2 which is where llvm gains speed over gcc

nope nevermind on the loop vectorization thing because that was changed in clang3.4+ (unless you're using an old one for the lulz)

basically:

[wise acorn]

Have you looked at skiv?

Or if windows you can enable hdr corrector in snipping tool

[olive sable]

idk what that is but it probably also doesnt get around the wayland drm protection

[wise acorn]

https://github.com/SpecialKO/SKIV

Oh

Yeah

[olive sable]

thge problem isnt viewing the image, its taking it

[wise acorn]

It also has it

It can capture in hdr

[fast pagoda]

raw stream from PipeWire

i was just looking at options for screen capture and going mad because this was really the best way to get a continuous way to see the whole screen with it

it being wayland

[wise acorn]

Left is HDR, Right is SDR tonemapped

Left will show up properly only on mobile when opened

Or if you have a viewer

[olive sable]

ok but like, which api does this use to get the imagedata? cuz if it uses org.freedesktop.portal.Screenshot it will look like this

and most screenshot apps for wayland do apparently

fuck this hdr

im going to bed

[lilac lantern]

Made an SVG that has a little animation in CSS to make a lava lamp that can change color. Maybe if I can be bothered to buy and maintain hosting (I probably can't) I'll make it so it syncs to the stream (if the lava lamp color API is public and such)

[nocturne olive]

What does HDR have to do with PipeWire? PipeWire is the audio backend

[nocturne olive]

So apparently Wayland sucks if you didn't know this before, isn't that crazy?

[sage crag]

try doing hdr on x11

[nocturne olive]

I don't even know if my displays support HDR

[midnight sigil]

mosts do

there's fake hdr anyways

[nocturne olive]

At least on Windows I was not given the option to HDR

So I probably don't have HDR in my stuff

[midnight sigil]

updating windows and fucking breakcore playing in the background

[south whale]

https://tenor.com/view/amen-break-drum-sample-breakcore-jungle-gif-24630006

breaking windows with breakcore

[sage crag]

minecraft for new nintendo 3ds came out the same year as hollow knight

[hollow spruce]

Mission is
how to make dumb mobile Phone to ai smart phone
Sadly phone has not (npu)

[tender river]

☁️

[stark needle]

There was Minecraft for the DS what

Holy

[sage crag]

minecraft is on every console

[stark needle]

You just gave me unrelated nostalgia for the old phone minecraft

[sage crag]

including apple tv

enub

[stark needle]

I do have that on the apple tv

[south whale]

and some amazon fire tv minecraft

[olive sable]

But does x11 have hyprland?

Anyways goodmorning

[tender river]

x11 has i3

and a billion other wms because x11 is easy to make wms for

also she meant hdr on x11 doesnt work, has never worked, and will probably never work

[olive sable]

Ooo

Then whats the point in switching to it?

[tender river]

none?

[nocturne olive]

For me it's remote desktop capability

[olive sable]

I wish i could just turn off hdr, then take the screenshot, and then turn hdr back in

Like a macro to change the hyprland config file

[opaque sigil]

Make a script

I'd give you mine but it's specifically for kde plasma

[olive sable]

Okay

Anyways i need to get on the train soon-ish

[nocturne olive]

Wayland would just not cover my needs

[olive sable]

You might notice i only slept 3 hour, i need to go after my new avr

Its going yo be cursed, yet beautiful

[amber fractal]

I remember doing something called "Sourcing a file that I replace during runtime"

If I were to redo it, I'd keep overwriting a symlink location

[opaque sigil]

Surely hyprctl can do this easily right

[amber fractal]

Surely

[olive sable]

Nah i dont seem to be ablr to turn of hdr with hypctl

[opaque sigil]

You'd need to rewrite the config I think? And maybe restart the monitor

Idk

[rough bloom]

I don't think there is an command that you can use with dispatch to change config options, no
just have to replace the config and reload

[olive sable]

The config is live-reload

So it just needs to save

[rough bloom]

you probably want to trigger a reload manually anyway because you might have a race-condition otherwise

[opaque sigil]

Alternatively just tone map the hdr screenshot

[olive sable]

Nah i tried, tone mapping didnt work

[rough bloom]

but putting a sleep in the script probably works too, your screenshot will just take longer

[opaque sigil]

wdym didn't work

[olive sable]

Gamma 2.2 and shit

It just didnt work, idk what to tell you

Lemme get the chatgpt logs

[opaque sigil]

It's a lot more complicated than just doing gamma correction unfortunately

Hmmm apparently ffmpeg has a tone mapping filter

I might have to play a bit with that

[uneven pulsar]

also can you make games with raw c++ i mean aside from vulkan but

why unreal needs a 4070 to run the engine

like i think unreal is shitly unoptimized

[opaque sigil]

Unreal does a lot more than just games yknow

[uneven pulsar]

yeah i know

[olive sable]

I was doing stuff like this

[uneven pulsar]

you can create realistic shit

[amber fractal]

-# Insert Sam summoning

[uneven pulsar]

plus

[olive sable]

Lmao

Train is here

Brb

[uneven pulsar]

where do you find these rtx 3090

can it even work for a 1100$ build?

[amber fractal]

Used market is always a gamba

[uneven pulsar]

for me the used market is dead

i wish jawa existed for me

dose jawa only works in america?

[olive sable]

My pc was about 1200 euro so i guess

[uneven pulsar]

like wat more than 1000$?

[amber fractal]

For Sam they just spawn at decent prices

[olive sable]

I had
2ndhand:
5950x + tomahawk x570 + 4x16gb 3600 €300
Case €70
3090 €675
Nh-d15 €50

New:
Ssd €100

But i can find cheaper 3090's here, i just wasnt Lucky

[uneven pulsar]

now there is a 3080 ti for 370$

its on facebook

but idk

[uneven pulsar]

the fact the cheapest one is a founder edition is crazy

[olive sable]

550 euro is about 640.usd i think

[uneven pulsar]

how do you even ship it

wait idk about taxes

[olive sable]

Ye its just luck.
Superbox had one for 526 euro through my network

[olive sable]

Which country you live in?

[uneven pulsar]

lebanon

i think its impossible

[olive sable]

Huh

Its probably possible but idk how much it'd cost

[uneven pulsar]

probably a lot

i mean super dose live in america right?

yeaaaah

dose the founder edition have most cores

BUT

[olive sable]

Not too bad

[uneven pulsar]

oh thats not much

[olive sable]

I live in belgium and superbox lives in Finland

[uneven pulsar]

oooh

now idk if they going to ask me taxes

thats the problem

wait let me show you smt

https://laptopsking.com/products/vga-msi-ventus-3x-rtx-3090-24gb-gddr6x-oc-edition-used-very-clean-with-box?srsltid=AfmBOorPaAihiuhOHxU0kEDnb5g8gGYOzlYjHVC3LEkPIJQWYiYIeZgp

look at this one

now idk about msi

[olive sable]

Not bad

[uneven pulsar]

but i think the brand makes difference

i think gigabyte or founde edition have most cores?

[olive sable]

Msi has its quircks but i prefer it over asus

[uneven pulsar]

https://hightech-lb.com/product/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-suprim-x-24g-graphic-card/?srsltid=AfmBOopmaiTKysa-7nf3tUVdY0K6HFl_Fa8X7Lh0Wyk_94fmffDFFTHZ

i might have to contact them about it

[opaque sigil]

That's not a thing btw

[uneven pulsar]

oh

whats the difference

[opaque sigil]

Cooler/warranty/some minor power delivery things/some are overclocked from the factory

[uneven pulsar]

oh i see

[opaque sigil]

The actual GPU is identical since it's just bought from nvidia

Then you need to make the board around it

[uneven pulsar]

wait you mean the things around it

i know manufacturs just makes custom stuff to the chipset

like add fans or what ever features

like cooling or something or rgb or idk edition

wait i found someone sells 3090 ti

and around my location

[olive sable]

The gpu chip is the same, the board, fans, other cooling stuff is all custom per brand and stuff

[uneven pulsar]

ooh

he has a zotac 3090 ti

but i need to call for price

what cpu do i pair it?

i think a r5 9600x

[olive sable]

Ye something like that should be fine

Either current r5 or an older r7 if they're similairly priced

[nocturne olive]

All 3090 chips have the same cores, just some may have a bit different clocks

[olive sable]

Im back at the gent sint pieters train station

Last time i was here was for superbox's 3090

[true hemlock]

same model same core count

clockspeed is gamble (only matters to overclocking anyways, and all third party brand are random. its called silicon lottery) but they have minimum guaranteed specs for it

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

Damn my train got undelayed, just to get delayed a 2nd time

[opaque sigil]

Baited

[nocturne olive]

Silly
You could call it The train station of used hardware

[olive sable]

Nah its just cuz i live in the west, and all the good stuff is in the centre

Gent-sint-pieters is like a connection between the west and the rest

[nocturne olive]

I wonder how many 3090s I'll actually end up with, if I can afford it I'll get two more so I can keep one in my main machine

[uneven pulsar]

well do i just get it?

i mean i would ask the guy to test it and the guy selling it is a local store for me

i think that 550 3090 is my best option

[olive sable]

The thing woth the 550 one is that the owner seems to be non-responsive

The article has been on there since june 3rd

And im pretty sure i tried to contact them before but im not sure

[wanton sluice]

idk if this counts but goddamn, i thhink i want one of these in the newr future

https://youtu.be/D7BehyQVVbU?si=FyecVuo2Q225NBKd

like

3w idle is insane

[olive sable]

Its nice for if you have dirty power u guess, but i myself dont really care about idke usage

[wanton sluice]

mm well moreof saving energy for electricity ig

[olive sable]

As long as it isnt doing 200W while watching youtube, i had that on windows 11

[wanton sluice]

but if theres a fixed bill for it i wouldnt care as well either way

[olive sable]

Oh we have solar so its mostly not an issue

[wanton sluice]

man thats so good

[uneven pulsar]

oh i see well soo i could try myself go to the shop

[olive sable]

The bus app connect to the bus with bluetooth to see your stops now, thats neat

[uneven pulsar]

well then

[tidal vapor]

why is the visual studio autocomplete thing so smart it scares me

it predicted exactly what i wanted to write 2 times in a row

[olive sable]

Copilot?

[tidal vapor]

no this funny grey text thing idk if it runs on copilot, microsoft visual studio confuses me

(yes i know there are errors, but at least they are errors i would make)

[opaque sigil]

that's probably copilot then

[tidal vapor]

it was there before i logged in to copilot, maybe it is intellicode? idk im new to this

[opaque sigil]

who knows

[tidal vapor]

but it also predicted that i wanted to add a variable for arrowLifeTime and as soon as i wrote "public float" it suggested that. there was nothing in the code that mentioned i wanted to do that....

pretty convenient tho

okay it already suggested something smarter than what i was gonna do and added a comment explaining it holy

at this point its reading my mind faster than i can

i don't mind ai taking over the world if it's this convenient

[olive sable]

I have the goods

Damn this thing is fucking heavy

[rigid snow]

code completions are actually great, agentic stuff is meh compared by how useful those can be

[tidal vapor]

what is that

[rigid snow]

the tab autocomplete is called "code completions" in vscode and copilot (that's what copilot was originally) and "tab completions" in cursor

the thing you're showing you have in vs

[tidal vapor]

i find copilot kind of nice even though its code is kind of braindead sometimes since it explains stuff without me having to pray to seven divine sigils and win a 0.0000000001% gacha. (looking at you google i always need to ask the exact specific question that everyone else did)

[rigid snow]

it's really nice for boilerplate

[tidal vapor]

but any other popular llm can do that, i just like that this one is in the window and (presumably) optimized for programming

[olive sable]

How much io do you want?
yes

[rigid snow]

i would use them but i use openrouter for ai stuff now and they don't support the code infill api even for models that do, and it's probably not cheap anyway because of how many requests you're making (basically every time you stop typing and move your cursor). i'm thinking of running a tiny model locally for completions, like a 3b or something, is that even worth it? better than nothing? can anyone vouch

i'm fine with 2022 public beta copilot level performance

[rigid snow]

that's basically every receiver ever

[olive sable]

Nah the one i used to have had 3 ports

Spdif, scart and rca

[uneven pulsar]

is that a multi hdmi manager-

[hollow spruce]

Nice 👍

[olive sable]

That too