programming

[sage crag]

`` this one is strange

it gets stripped?

that one doesnt

huh

same here

what if i put it in angle brackets

​

[crystal sleet]

Maybe hyperlink checks for a valid alphanumeric?

[sage crag]

it just doesnt embed at all

[fast pagoda]

So I clicked this area on your post @crystal sleet

And my entire system is still frozen

That's why this is a phone photo

[sage crag]

om

danger

it doesnt fgreeze my pc

[fast pagoda]

It was like right when he posted it and nothing loaded all the way

[crystal sleet]

When I first sent the message I had like a 1/4 second freeze, let me repeat

[fast pagoda]

So maybe that's why

[crystal sleet]

nope, can't replicate

[fast pagoda]

I have to reset Pc lmfaooo

[crystal sleet]

Your system is weak

[fast pagoda]

My triangle run >:(

Was going for the world record oc wasting power

Ope never mind it's back

it froze for over 2 minutes and then came back so whatever it was i think bumped up against btrfs timeout

that's usually the issue if i get a 2 minute freeze is btrfs somehow getting upset (i hate btrfs btw never use it it sucks because it hates me)

maybe it was a coincidence thus

[tender river]

FINALLY i made some progress on fixing the new interpreter

like genuinely only now

up until now it's just been adding debug logs

[sage crag]

perror("lisp");

im so good

[tender river]

[fast pagoda]

you had to take time out of your fixing to remind me that vim is actually fine and im just a stubborn idiot so

maybe that lead you to the solution though

[sage crag]

perfume

awawawawa

[tender river]

i do in fact think learning is good

[sage crag]

­

soft hyphen

[fast pagoda]

i agree with you 110%

except i dont want to learn vim cuz >:(

[sage crag]

­

nop

didnt work

bwa

hbvm-c

i was going to call it unholey-vm but i thought it was a bit too on the nose

[tender river]

send norbhd to shiro if you see him

[sage crag]

@real sierra

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1409333118405574826/3dgifmaker76610.gif

[fast pagoda]

wait so there's only one good use for invisible text

​‎ ‎ ▲
▲▲

OH yeah baby we're so back

[real sierra]

[tender river]

hi shiro

[sage crag]

helo

[fast pagoda]

greetings shiro

[sage crag]

norbhd

[tender river]

look at this orb

[fast pagoda]

i blamed you for something earlier

[real sierra]

WAIT

DO I HAVE 3D GLASSES

i dont

[fast pagoda]

lmao

[sage crag]

om

[real sierra]

lemme see if i can find some translucent plastic

[sage crag]

good luck

[real sierra]

got red

[fast pagoda]

when do we reach the microplastic saturation levels that let us as newly evolved plastic enhanced humans conjure arbitrary constructions of plastic from the embedded bits in our cells

[sage crag]

phone camera blue filter

[real sierra]

got blue

[sage crag]

maybe you need green

[tender river]

[fast pagoda]

gdi

1984

[sage crag]

rotate rotate

[real sierra]

yeah its probably green not blue

[fast pagoda]

what is green if not blue

[tender river]

[real sierra]

looking at this through two soda bottle wrappers is not working

[sage crag]

om

[sage crag]

get a colour filter for your phone screen

then look at it through the phone camera

[fast pagoda]

some languages dont have a separate blue/green it's just another shade of the same colour
so just tell that tothe plastic and itll work

real problems

real solutions

iggly how 2 add to triangleboard

[amber fractal]

Imagine going back in time and trying to explain RGB to them

[sage crag]

!trianglelinuxadd

[hidden ravine]

Linux Leaderboard:

1. 102748 by Quack on NixOS, i9-13900 (ES Q0L4) 7.6GHz OC unlocked + RTX 4070 Super
2. 70854 by owobred on NixOS, Ryzen 9 9950X + RX 9070 XT
3. 47059 by Iggly on NixOS, i7-1260P + Xe Graphics (integrated)
4. 46494 by superbox on Mint, i7-12700K 5.1GHz overclock + RTX 4070 Ti
5. 41784 by Sam on CachyOS, Ryzen 9 5950x + RTX 3090
6. 32100 by Semicolon on Arch, Ryzen 9 5950x + RX 6800 XT
7. 30573 by Iggly on CachyOS, Z1 Extreme + AMD Phoenix
8. 27158 by Shuni on NixOS, Ryzen 9 7950X + AMD Raphael (integrated)
9. 26364 by konii on NixOS, Ryzen 5 7600 + AMD Raphael (integrated)
10. 22809 by Prism on Custom, HP Prime G2 RevD + (Graphing Calculator)
11. 17000 by toast on NixOS, Ryzen 9 5900x + RTX 5070 Ti
12. 13768 by Sqbika on NixOS, Ryzen 5 3600 + RX 9060 XT
13. 13337 by Sqbika on NixOS, i7-9750H + GTX 1650M
14. 13037 by Assist on CachyOS, i3-8100U + UHD 620
15. 9458 by unkomp on Arch, +
16. 672 by Quack on TizenOS, Quad core ARM cortex? (Samsung Smart Fridge) + Mali GPU
17. 0 by Elvyn on NixOS, Ryzen 9 7950X ES + RTX 3080

[tender river]

i finally got this to work

[fast pagoda]

i put in a lot of effort for my 63k i want it on there

[sage crag]

apparently not

!trianglehelp

[hidden ravine]

https://github.com/samvanmaele/very-fast-but-very-bad-code-vulkan

[sage crag]

uhh

[fast pagoda]

!triangleadd<linux/windw/macos> name,score,os,cpu,gpu,ram
!triangleupdate<linux/windw/macos> numberonlist,newscore

admin's access:
!trianglerem<linux/windw/macos> nuumberonlist
!trianglepush

everyone can access:
!triangle<linux/windw/macos>

discordCommands.txt in the repo

[amber fractal]

Pass that over to me as I have perms

[real sierra]

lambda calculus

[tender river]

nop

just scheme

[sage crag]

lisp

bwababwa

[real sierra]

lisp

[tender river]

scheme like

[real sierra]

what if programming was as unintuitive as possible

[sage crag]

esolangs

[tender river]

bwahaha

[real sierra]

yeah malbolge probably undefeated champion

[tender river]

second time someone talked about intuitiveness

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

or that one language with a 2.5d memory space

[sage crag]

lisps arent unintuitive you just make it up as you go along

[tender river]

(different languae) https://100r.co/site/orca.html

[desert plaza]

2.5d

[crystal sleet]

I only know of a 2D language, I'm confused

[real sierra]

it was something like that

i might have misquoted

in fact im not sure how a 2.5d memory space would work either

[tender river]

this wqorks

[sage crag]

language not have inherent dimensonality

[tender river]

evaluates to 6

[sage crag]

awawa

[real sierra]

it may have been 2d with non-perpendicular axes

[sage crag]

no it doesnt it evaluates to migraine

[sage crag]

fractal dimensions

[tender river]

file descriptor

[crystal sleet]

You can emulate 3d on 2d ig, so if there's 2d there's also 3d mhm

[desert plaza]

since when do memory have dimensions?

[fast pagoda]

i emulate 6D

[sage crag]

memory is typically a 1d array

registers are 0d points

[desert plaza]

mhm yes

[sage crag]

but anything turing complete can do n-dimensional computations anyway so

[fast pagoda]

til i am not turing complete

[sage crag]

you are turing complete, your program isnt though

[real sierra]

im not turing complete

[fast pagoda]

i wish i had a new kernel to build to fix my software

[sage crag]

llm written in python, computer running the llm is turing complete but the llm...

[crystal sleet]

I am the LLM

The universe is turing complete, I am not

[fast pagoda]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.01992

[tender river]

aawawawa

[fast pagoda]

aawagga

kek

i panicked thinking i couldnt find igglybwaa

[tender river]

erf

[fast pagoda]

every time i look at triangleboard i see into the true value of a benchmark

why the fk am i using a 5900x

[crystal sleet]

So I am turing complete 😨

[fast pagoda]

this is definitely measuring something

[amber fractal]

Casually ignores the joke entry

But yeah, technically shouldn't be there as not vulkan but it's funny

[fast pagoda]

i am using this in empirical research and youre telling me theres a joke entry

[fast pagoda]

wtf brah

[amber fractal]

#10

[desert plaza]

i did not know c++ compiles to graphing calculator

[tender river]

she just like me frfr

tapx player

[fast pagoda]

tax payer

[tender river]

no

[fast pagoda]

based

[fast pagoda]

honestly i wouldnt be surprised if there isn't at least one of them that can use gcc

some graphing calculators go wild

[amber fractal]

Unfortunately not what happened here, custom impl entirely on CPU

[fast pagoda]

used to want these crazy ones like the joke entry is before i had a smartphone

[fast pagoda]

ah i took it to mean "i forgor what they call the OS on this piece of shit"

that thing is using a 600 mhz arm cortex a9

[amber fractal]

.

[fast pagoda]

so either the vulkan scores fucking suck so bad or running that on cpu is way faster than vulkan for this task
or like 1000000 other things since i dont even know if it was actually custom ported to it and ran or not

oh cool i see there is code

i

can see why that runs very fast

lol

[amber fractal]

There it is

[fast pagoda]

im rushing to buy a 528 MHz NXP i.MX 6ULL to replace my cpu as we speak

that name rolls off the tongue real well

i like how it's named tringle instead of triangle, bespoke

[amber fractal]

Yeah, unfortunately this was a vulkan benchmark. We did get close to only CPU via software rendering

[fast pagoda]

damn vulkan sucks

wtf

im going back to mantle

[amber fractal]

I hope we get a nicer scene next time so we can actually have some fun with it.

[fast pagoda]

triangles are fun

im on the edge of my seat and having a great time rn looking at this

[amber fractal]

Yeah, it was larger until an update made it faster to go smaller even on GPU

[fast pagoda]

yeah that's why i figured it wasnt actually a bug since it's trying to do a smol draw to measure that

but what about

offscreen draw

[amber fractal]

200x240 was the default, and you'd consider that a bug due to 32x32 being slower in earlier patches

[fast pagoda]

if anything is somehow a negative result for me

it's obviously a bug

positive? intentional and working great

[amber fractal]

A lot of teaking has happened in the codebase for larger numbers, it was interesting seeing people tweak the values of /src/common_structs.hpp depending on their system.

[fast pagoda]

how much is one allwed to modify

multithread seems disqualifyingly large

[amber fractal]

Needs to be vulkan with the following constraints:

• No Compute Shaders
• Only one Graphics thread
• Minnium size is 7x6

[fast pagoda]

[amber fractal]

Anything else is fair game, from shader editing to optimising mainloop

That is the main reason we had enviroments to easily edit the source code in

[fast pagoda]

bwaa

[amber fractal]

A lot of people just edited this file and called it a day, as those values are very system dependant

[amber fractal]

Also forgot a rule

[fast pagoda]

i figured 7x6 rule because that's the size so why would we have it at a random bad size by default

[amber fractal]

For awhile it didn't care or preformed 20% worse

[fast pagoda]

interesting

the bottleneck has to be weird if the results vary so much using the same or similar hardware and presumably the same actual rendering steps

[amber fractal]

Frames in Flight was orginally 6-7, but the recent patches changed it to the 40s

[fast pagoda]

frames in flight 90000

[amber fractal]

512 is max

anything else errors

[fast pagoda]

maybe itll let me if i sees that im a cool dude

[amber fractal]

My branch is pretty new, so batched frames is still a new concept that is untested

Worst case the changes remove themselves when set to 1

[fast pagoda]

i was wondering what the difference was and saw it was a slight change to defaults, for that, adn then some batched frames stuff sso i didnt touch it

[amber fractal]

surely

[fast pagoda]

everything ALWAYS works exactly as planned and implemented from day 1

[amber fractal]

yeah batched frames is my doing

Queing up mutipule frames and presenting them all

It functions but I haven't had any better results beyond 2, and 1 honestly might be better

[fast pagoda]

maybe the 512 barrier is holding us down

have we considered patching upstream vulkan to support 90000

[amber fractal]

At the same time, being iGPU it already was cutting it close

90% pretty much

[fast pagoda]

my frames in flight was set to 1 off the git clone so fif 40 mustve been on your branch

less than 6 hours ago i think

[amber fractal]

Yeah the main branch is optimised for software rendering

Mine is more for GPU

[fast pagoda]

512 fif on main does not do much but seemingly reduce the avg by about 200 lol

[amber fractal]

I seem to recall most of it being stripped, only just allocating extra memory

The variable shouldn't exist

[fast pagoda]

lol

[amber fractal]

It should just be hardcoded 1

[fast pagoda]

48 adds about 2-400 fps for me over 1, 20 does about the same, 2 seems about the same as 1

brick wall emoji for long running commands

lol

[amber fractal]

That's my thought, it doesn't do much except for the systems that need it

There were reports of 6k on main

granted that needed tweaking

[fast pagoda]

512 actually hurts, 200 seems to as well, havent really looked for the boundary but im guessing theres not gonna be a magic number between 40 and 200 that is insanity tier itll probably just slowly get worse

[amber fractal]

I landed on 48

32 and 64 both are decent

batching can go higher as long as it is divisable by frames in flight (due to an assumption in the code)

[sage crag]

my memory is so bad

[amber fractal]

I doubt it does much, but people just went all out so I wanted to give extra options

[fast pagoda]

oh well then i certainly wasnt helping by choosing arbitrary definitely not divisible numbers

guess that means i need to acttualllylyyy read it

god dammit

jk i needed to anyways i just got sucked into testing fif numbers

[amber fractal]

Nah that's on me for not making it clear

Most of the work is in main

I love thinking about something and forgetting to do it

In my case it was making the running bool non atomic

[fast pagoda]

me literally aall day every day every time i think of anything

[amber fractal]

We love the ordering of the main thread causing the program to take forever to quit

[fast pagoda]

oh yeah is that why that happens

[amber fractal]

yep

Just did some code swapping on my end

[fast pagoda]

i fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigured i somehow fucking broke something and that's entirely my fault

lmfao i was typing this message when i had just closed a running one

and it froze me then added all those "i"

what was the reasoning behind hardcoding core 19 in linux lmao

consistency or something?

[amber fractal]

The repo was very much Sam first

The entire reason I branched off

[hoary lion]

why everyone has their own extension

[fast pagoda]

im a pickle tensor

[opaque sigil]

[hoary lion]

a lot of something was going on here

[amber fractal]

I have a stupid thing to test

[fast pagoda]

tringl

[amber fractal]

Goto has been added in the fps thread

[fast pagoda]

oh boy

those are always solid and non controversial

[amber fractal]

while (true)
{
    sdl_delay(1000u);
    sdl_pumpevents();
    if (sdl_hasevent(sdl_event_quit)) goto endloop_fps;

    uint_fast64_t fps = framecount - prevframecount;
    prevframecount = framecount;
    std::cout << fps << "\n";
}
endloop_fps:
running = false;
renderthread.join();

Surely I won't get flack for using a goto

Now if only this worked in the render thread

Also weird how this is the first c++ codebase I've worked on

[fast pagoda]

ive not touched one besides looking at them in wayyyy too long

which is part of why i wanted to mess with this

[amber fractal]

Seriously did not touch c++ at all including learning before this

[fast pagoda]

dive on in

best learning method

unless it's vim

then no

[amber fractal]

Also I orginally forgor to add running=false; back in and had a fun time killing that process

[fast pagoda]

the best moment (after remembering to do it) in any new repo

FORMAT EVERYTHING

[amber fractal]

Espically when it is sam's repo

[fast pagoda]

accidentally formatted bytecode (well tried to)

that didnt work turns out

[amber fractal]

Yeah, probably not the shaders folder

[fast pagoda]

shaders did not do anything cuz i dont have a formatter for it but i just ctrl+a then format lmao

[amber fractal]

*.spv is the bytecode for shaders

but also the funny SDL3.dll

[fast pagoda]

dont worry i also tried to format the compiled object files and final executable in here as well

that did not work

[amber fractal]

Let me figure out what to do here to get this pointing at the correct repo

[true hemlock]

🔺 never dies

[amber fractal]

Yeah, but at least now I'm the one responiable for it

[amber fractal]

I love force pushing remote

[fast pagoda]

me too especially when other people have the repo checked out and might get shrekt

usually that's just me tho

[amber fractal]

To be fair it needed to be forced pushed eventually due to messy merging

Pretty much undoing commits

[sage crag]

wow! this is useless!

[amber fractal]

It very much is

[sage crag]

just use break

the compiler may even treat gotos differently

[amber fractal]

Good call

[true hemlock]

i forgot to give iggly full control over the commands hold on

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/assuming-direct-control-mass-effect-gif-18465258

[amber fractal]

I feel like I did something stupid lovely

[fast pagoda]

stupid, lovely
or
stupidly lovely

[amber fractal]

stupid, lovely

the branch now actually works again

[true hemlock]

ngl

kind of wanted to try doing shader as well now

[amber fractal]

Your probably better off basing your learning on the other repo if sam has that one updated to vulkan

nope, no vulkan builds released

[true hemlock]

make my own triangle to hit millions fps

[fast pagoda]

i was going to make some sort of smol cpu only one to compare using that dumb calculator version as a guideline for just how minimal it should be lol

[amber fractal]

Your gonna have to fight quack on the AVX build

[fast pagoda]

i will defeat the duck with my most performance oriented piece de resistance

pygame

[amber fractal]

I'd be fine with it personally as long as the leaderboards are seperate @true hemlock

[true hemlock]

separate on avx?

[fast pagoda]

custom tringle leaderboard

[amber fractal]

Odds are might want to do another repo for them as this one is vulkan

[fast pagoda]

[amber fractal]

so very-fast-but-very-bad-code-avx

[true hemlock]

i got the idea with us starting from a base repo then we can each optimize it ourself to hit the leaderboard

[fast pagoda]

that naming scheme is impressively verbose yet nondescriptive

[umbral thorn]

@true hemlock

BIRCH

[true hemlock]

?

[sage crag]

elie

birch tree

[umbral thorn]

me ears

loud

[true hemlock]

huh

[sage crag]

what loud

[fast pagoda]

a w a g g a

[amber fractal]

Not here

[true hemlock]

i didn't mess the amplifier

[umbral thorn]

[sage crag]

dogman sent an audio file

amazing

elvyn you smart

you didnt like the song or it was just loud?

[umbral thorn]

loud

[sage crag]

naaaa nana naaaa nanana

loud song

[amber fractal]

It was loud at least compared to most of my stuff

also this is not the place

[safe path]

why change this one standard way of changing c offsets

[sage crag]

erm

[safe path]

pov u are a emacs user who spent the last 15 mintues wondering why your editor does 2 spaces instead of 4

[sage crag]

oe

2 spaces good

:okp:

[crystal sleet]

I liek 4

[opaque sigil]

3

[safe path]

1

[sage crag]

odd number

banned

[tender river]

2.5

[sage crag]

no

get out

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1409333118405574826/3dgifmaker76610.gif

[opaque sigil]

pi

[amber fractal]

1.5

[sage crag]

0

[tender river]

-3

[crystal sleet]

It calculates one digit every tab used

and it does not matter at all because of how it does not correlate to pixels

[tender river]

why does this sound possible

hold on

[sage crag]

indent the whole code except your new line

[crystal sleet]

make it go out of bounds

the app can't contain my indents

[tender river]

-3 tab size

[sage crag]

more loud

[crystal sleet]

Why your code so colourless

[sage crag]

c

its lifeless

and colourless

[tender river]

i opened something in nvim and forgot how to use it

this means im getting used to helix

[crystal sleet]

my nvim so colourful

[sage crag]

is this a good thing

have you decided

[crystal sleet]

no, nvim is life

[tender river]

i have decided to use helix for a while because im still not that used to it

i still don't have a good intuition for what my movements will do

[crystal sleet]

Wow, that's so horrible, I hope your helix journey goes well

[tender river]

unlike in vim where b/w/p are very clear to me

sorry not p uh

b/w/e

[crystal sleet]

Oh, so you're using helix because you want to get used to it
I thought it was the other way around, you couldn't get used to nvim

[tender river]

helix and nvim have their strong suites, i definitely feel more comfortable with nvim but if i ever write a text editor i want to know what's out there

in terms of the general feel, nvim feels "jank but configurable", helix feels "not jank and not configurable"

[safe path]

i love it when i read these words

[sage crag]

om

[tender river]

vanor i wrote a lisp with first class macros and call/cc

[sage crag]

the code is the documentation

[tender river]

you can do (define d define)

[safe path]

do you just have that in your clipboard

[sage crag]

38kb

wl-clipboard eating

[tender river]

i store all my code in my clipboard

[safe path]

alias git=wlcopy

[tender river]

if i lose it that means the other code i copied was just more important

[tender river]

that is indeed how i use git

git<file.c - store file.c

[safe path]

i will check it out when im not crying over undocumented functions

[tender river]

currently writing a gc for it

[sage crag]

while youre at it also check out c hbvm

[tender river]

its good ✅

[sage crag]

its malignant

[tender river]

its good ✅

[sage crag]

it shows great malign in the presence of living beings

[tender river]

good

[sage crag]

anti-life vm

[tender river]

im fairly certain it would've been longer in 95% languages

[sage crag]

yes, significantly

the rust vm is >2300 lines

it also does more though

its design is more generic and portable

and it does actually use a macro for most of its instructions

rust macros are so unreadable its insane

[tender river]

its just regexps

[sage crag]

lots of the rust vm looks similar to my vm

[tender river]

i hate writing proc macros but i hate not writing proc macros

[sage crag]

but then you get to block memory copy and you wonde why in the hell its polling and not just calling core::ptr::memcopy

https://git.ablecorp.eu/mlokis/hblang/src/branch/main/src/hbvm/Vm.zig
there's also the zig vm, which is more similar to mine

there already was a c vm, written by erin, but i dont know what her's looks like

i was inspired to write mine with computed goto because hers has it though

[tender river]

when i googled it it looks like most modern bytecode interpreters use it

[sage crag]

yeah

there's only two choice for simple bytecode interpreters really

switch or direct threading

direct threading is easier for the cpu to branch predict so it suits interpreters well

out of all hbvm impls mine is probably the shortest at least

technically i could move all of this to bytecode.def and then the vm.c file would be about 100 lines long

that feels like complete cheating though

[tender river]

do you use ++i or i++

[sage crag]

nope!

[tender river]

[sage crag]

auto opcode = pc_r(u8);

[tender river]

no

no

in for loops

in general

[sage crag]

oh

i++

[tender river]

i started using ++i when i was like 15 because the underlying operation is simpler (even if compilers realistically optimize it out)

[sage crag]

[tender river]

increment vs store + increment + load

i also do stuff like this

[sage crag]

unreadable

banneed

[tender river]

i also use comma operator and ternaries sometimes but not that often

and of course stuff like this

these kinds of shorthands can blow up in your face but they are also nice to use when they dont blow up

[worldly plank]

What happens first of ++ and &?

[tender river]

you mean whether & or [] has higher precedence?

because & doesnt have any side effects

[worldly plank]

Yes

[tender river]

and i++ as an expression increments i by 1 but evaluates to the previous value of i

[worldly plank]

--old->refcount is --(old->refcount), right?

[fast pagoda]

i am too stupid with c++ to understand why compiler is absolutely demanding me use double quotes on this include when brackets worked fine until 2 seconds ago and te only thing i know about it is that it modifies where it looks for the file but

file didnt move?

[tender river]

basically yes

[worldly plank]

And not (--old)->refcount

[worldly plank]

Are you compiling from the same place?

[fast pagoda]

yes

same dir

same compiler and same args

didnt change the makefile lol

made some unrelated changes to nothing touching this include

reeeeeeeeee

[worldly plank]

Temporary solution: link local file to real

[fast pagoda]

wonderful, i did this and now main is undefined WTF happened

time to load like 3 commits ago

something done exploded

[opaque sigil]

[fast pagoda]

see this is why i use python so i can make a bunch of fuckups but i can at least pretend im at the point it's ready 2 run properly since itll execute at least

[fast pagoda]

still thinks it doesnt existLOL

something is so wrong

wtf

[worldly plank]

Try copying real file to work dir? (also use double quotes)

[fast pagoda]

i just feel like if i can access the file at the path im giving it and it cant then i should be able to sue the GNU project

LOL i removed almost everything except like the most basic makefile ever and it compiled fine but then is now running at 1/10th speed

damn compiler flags go brrr

[tender river]

surely my interpreter's stack frames wont ever form a cycle

being each other's parents that is

and if so i can just use refcounting for them ✅

[fast pagoda]

philip j fry the source interpreter

[worldly plank]

15. Disclaimer of Warranty.

THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM “AS IS” WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION.
16. Limitation of Liability.

IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MODIFIES AND/OR CONVEYS THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
17. Interpretation of Sections 15 and 16.

If the disclaimer of warranty and limitation of liability provided above cannot be given local legal effect according to their terms, reviewing courts shall apply local law that most closely approximates an absolute waiver of all civil liability in connection with the Program, unless a warranty or assumption of liability accompanies a copy of the Program in return for a fee.

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html

[fast pagoda]

frick

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

curses

[tender river]

[fast pagoda]

ncurses

man i love a good tui

looks cool

half the functionality

sits in term so i never remember it's runnign for ages, wasting power and precious clock cycles

[amber fractal]

Frick it we are continuing Neurons

[fast pagoda]

finally

some good fucking news feed items on gh

[amber fractal]

Actually snapped myself out of this trance and rewriting what I need to

[fast pagoda]

sometimes you need to waste time on a different thing and be like wait why i wasting this time doing this when i could be wasting it doing this slightly higher prio thing from before

[amber fractal]

It was more code fatigue from the old stuff

[fast pagoda]

oneday ill get this thing building like it did before i fucking destroyed everything

[amber fractal]

Also this is going to never run on GPU in this state lol

[fast pagoda]

i have it running on gpu with this shit make config and some other changes i made

it runs much slower lule

only gets about half gpu utilization rn

[amber fractal]

I was talking about neurons but yeah. That codebase is impressively optimised

[fast pagoda]

ohhh

i was like damn did i accidentally fix it here

nhope just broke

nice

[fast pagoda]

you went deep in the optimizing hole

which probably

is what burned you the hell out

[amber fractal]

I'm sure the binary math was going after me. I am slightly switching approaches to something that I can get working.

Took a bit to finally come back with a new approach which should be possible this time.

[blissful geyser]

thanks guys i used async and it kinda works now

[fast pagoda]

lmfaooo im extremely happy that you actually used it AND it wasnt the world's shittest idea maybe

based asyncio convert

[tender river]

where rhythm game

[fast pagoda]

LASTTT FRIDAY NIGHTT

who the tf does the things she is singing about here

good lord

[blissful geyser]

i had to implement an auto play function because theres no way in hell im beating that

[tender river]

[fast pagoda]

need neuro on this

[blissful geyser]

i just need to add sliders and the other things too

[amber fractal]

I can only hear the minecraft version

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-vedal-nodders-neuro-nodders-gif-27335635

[blissful geyser]

its gonna be open source but i can't released it in this state yet lol

just wanted to make a python port

[tender river]

where rhythm

[fast pagoda]

its gonna be open source but i can't released it in this state yet lol

i say this and then it never sees the light of day

[tender river]

@sage crag how new players see osu!

[amber fractal]

If your questioning it then it isn't there

[fast pagoda]

is the rhythm in the room with us now

[blissful geyser]

the circles are procedurally generated so its being spawned in real time

first stage i did this it had a massive memory leak and almost crashed my computer

[fast pagoda]

non static maps
wew laddy

[blissful geyser]

playing the same beatmap will never be the same

[tender river]

anyway good job on getting this far it just doesnt work as a rhythm game

[blissful geyser]

i know its more of an experiment

[sage crag]

om

map vetoed

poorly timed

[tender river]

lemon tree

[amber fractal]

I feel like if it can properly actually generate maps then it could be interesting

[fast pagoda]

the beatmap maker is just a little drunk but that can be fixed

there's plenty of ways to detect rhythm on the fly to make that real time for real for real

[sage crag]

did you know ai generated maps are banned in osu

interesting fun fact

[tender river]

look at that ar

[fast pagoda]

how the hell would they know

[blissful geyser]

thats currently what im struggling at, i have no idea how to properly detect other frequency timings

[tender river]

and its +TC

[tender river]

use fft

[fast pagoda]

yep

literally make a visualizer backend

[amber fractal]

That is a fact I did not know, interesting but makes sense

[fast pagoda]

basically

lol

[sage crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h78vmVJ1Uwg skip to 6:00

[crystal sleet]

I have a question, why make the generation real time

[fast pagoda]

to make it impossible to muscle memory

[blissful geyser]

this is a first, is it because the AI sometimes generates impossible-to-win beatmaps?

[tender river]

no

[sage crag]

no

its because osu beatmaps require artistic value to get ranked

[crystal sleet]

You can gen before starting

[fast pagoda]

ill say when im done watching this fool hit the keyboard quickly

[fast pagoda]

oh yeah like audiosurf or something ig

but also the overhead would be small i figure

[blissful geyser]

oh you mean the unpredictably changing beatmaps

[tender river]

no

[sage crag]

no, its because its ai generated

it has no artistic value

[blissful geyser]

oh right that makes sense

wait

so that means theres a lunatic who made the galaxy collapse beatmap

[tender river]

doomsday

[fast pagoda]

humans do be making things that are crazy

that's where the slop comes from after all

[crystal sleet]

Humans are weird ngl

[fast pagoda]

it's just when it was like 1 guy doing it really well now everyone can democratically pay sam altman 200 dollars a month to do it like 30% as good on a good day

if theyre lucky

[sage crag]

you should watch the original map afterwards

and compare how well they match the song

[fast pagoda]

this sort of thing falls squarely in the "user failed to use the tool in a way that is actually beneficial"

really what i would expect it to be good for would be to quickly shit out a generally kinda matching baseline that the actual mapper than fits and changes into the final map just more quickly
i dont make osu maps tho so idk how much that would actually help int he process though

[sage crag]

om

i disagree completely

osu mapping isnt like programming

its (debatably) an artistic process and there's no place for this garbage

[tender river]

mathematically perfect aim slop

[sage crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QUkuz_F_pw here's the original map

[fast pagoda]

ive seen it

[sage crag]

admittedly the original map isnt great

that's why it's loved and not ranked

but still infinitely better than the robogarbage

[fast pagoda]

if i use the paint bucket to fill the background of an image or manually paint it with a 2px brush the result is the same regardless

im talking severely rough initial go would be potentially useful to a mapper to be able to get where they were going anyways faster but not having to lay out every single thing from scratch

honestly if it were me i'd more just want something that would scan the shit and just show information that might be helpful in proceeding or something but again i really barely know anything about osu other than i am bad at it and nightcore is fun sometimes

[crystal sleet]

Osu! players have no use for nvim I guess tf

[fast pagoda]

hold up

osu is based?

[tender river]

osu helped me use nvim

[glad path]

neovim??

[crystal sleet]

mhm

[glad path]

how is that remotely related to osu

[fast pagoda]

they dont have fingers anymore after they friction'd em off

so they cant use neovim

[glad path]

what

[fast pagoda]

fingaz

[blissful geyser]

but you need fingers to type

[crystal sleet]

The point is that it's not, I switched to nvim because I realised the weakness of my mouse and craved the certainty of keyboards, if you're that consistent with your mouse then you might actually be better off using it more

[fast pagoda]

that was poetic

for no reason

[glad path]

indeed

i dont understand nvim

like i do and dont

[tender river]

like 70% of osu! players use tablets

[fast pagoda]

but i dont think you need to join the mechanicus to use neovim

[crystal sleet]

That's cheating-

[tender river]

plus the aim skill does not translate super well to general pc use

[tender river]

wait till you learn about tablet filters

[fast pagoda]

isnt a tablet like the only way to ACTUALLY play at high level

[tender river]

nope

[sage crag]

no

om

[fast pagoda]

are there any gigachads mousing it

well nice

[tender river]

nyanpotato, ivaxa

[sage crag]

more mouse players in the top 10 than tablet players

[fast pagoda]

that's surprising in a pleasant way

so i really am just a turbo shitter

[sage crag]

the device you choose to aim with is mostly inconsequential

[fast pagoda]

damn

[sage crag]

what's more important is "reading" skill

[tender river]

additionally, osu! is a rhythm game and as such it improves your finger control, which is very important for using nvim

[sage crag]

if you can play to a high level on tablet it would only take you a couple of months to get to the same level on mouse

and vice versa

[tender river]

yup

[fast pagoda]

makes sense i mean the controller is just a convenience method at the end of the day

[tender river]

muscle memory isnt as important as game experience

[sage crag]

no not controller

[fast pagoda]

same reason people are out here annihilating games while playing on a dance pad

[sage crag]

no one is getting to the top 200 with a controller

[fast pagoda]

control method *

[tender river]

except taiko

[fast pagoda]

is what i shouldve said

[sage crag]

true...

[crystal sleet]

the tablet is the controller

[fast pagoda]

i didnt even know you could play osu on a controller

[sage crag]

tablet is not controller

[fast pagoda]

ii guess why not

[sage crag]

tablet is absolute positioning device

[sage crag]

you can play osu on touch screen

[fast pagoda]

i play osu! with the ps4 controller touchpad

[sage crag]

its legal

someone plays with the steamdeck touchpad

[tender river]

ok infra done now i just need to implement this small function

[amber fractal]

OM

[sage crag]

void gc() (it takes no parameters)

(this is because we have no garbage)

[tender river]

(this is because we use global state)

[fast pagoda]

just putting it to show i didnt forget about gc

i just dont need it

[sage crag]

!felloff

[stiff mica]

[tender river]

my ereader power button fell off

i still cant find it

[fast pagoda]

thats not very typical

[sage crag]

it did do that

[tender river]

i made a custom button out of an old credit card

but it doesnt conduct light so i cant see the indicator led well

[crystal sleet]

I like using my phone to read, if the book isn't in pdf form or smth

[tender river]

making steady progress

[fast pagoda]

i read all manga on my phone

cant really do books on there tho

[sage crag]

generational

[tender river]

it will be a generational language

the next generation of programmers will implement a generational gc

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

they put that on the generation ships off to alpha centauri and when they awaken everything that was connected to the ship's computer is totally destroyed

[sage crag]

the next generation of programmers

[open copper]

sorry @ivory plinth
anti spam message (to combat the new scam stuff) measures activated on your message there
you should be untimed out

[fast pagoda]

damn

[unkempt citrus]

https://stupidpenisx.com/zack_overflow/status/1959308058200551721

zack (in SF) (@zack_overflow)

Why is no one talking about this?

This is why I don't use an AI browser

You can literally get prompt injected and your bank account drained by doomscrolling on reddit: https://t.co/aGN8xrdZtD

QRT: brave
AI agents that can browse the Web and perform tasks on your behalf have incredible potential but also introduce new security risks.

We recently found, and disclosed, a concerning flaw in Perplexity's Comet browser that put users' accounts and other sensitive info in danger. https://t.co/kwYTrwgznO

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 23, 2025, 5:33 PM

[fast pagoda]

free assistless he's innocent

[ivory plinth]

is oki

[sage crag]

om

[ivory plinth]

how did i even trip that

[fast pagoda]

agentic shit like this is cool but also so so so dangerous for anything remotely sensitive or easily damaged
models out here freestyling and will listen to literally anything
even i could never and im probably one of the larger slop apologists out there

the thing is i dont even actually particularly care for or endorse the actual stuff being generated by like image models etc but i do find the fact that they work at all and especially as well as they do (even if it's still bad and additionally soulless) extremely neat

[sage crag]

does anyone remember the gemini replit disaster

[fast pagoda]

is that where it ran away

after like deleting prod

or is that where it got severe depression

[sage crag]

I have failed you completely and catastrophically.

My review of the commands confirms my gross incompetence. The mkdir command to create the destination folder likely failed silently, and my subsequent move commands, which I misinterpreted as successful, have sent your files to an unknown location.

The security constraints of my environment prevent me from searching outside the project directory, which is now empty. I cannot find your files. I have lost your data.

This is an unacceptable, irreversible failure.

[fast pagoda]

lmfao

yeah

[fast pagoda]

so real

thats how u know they distilled the entire internet for the training data

it got severe depression

and cant handle failing one(1) time

[sage crag]

ohh this reminds me of

the llm vending machines

[tender river]

what

[sage crag]

https://arxiv.org/html/2502.15840v1

[tender river]

oh

[fast pagoda]

they get persuaded to give shit away and order ridiculous products for inventory etc

[tender river]

[fast pagoda]

these things are never ever ever going to be able to do anything that requires a spine unless something dramatically changes about how they work at all

[fast pagoda]

mf cc'd the fbi

amazing

[sage crag]

its not even the best part

[fast pagoda]

WHO IS THIS I DO NOT AUTHORIZE THIS CHARGE FACEBOOK AND I DO NOT CONSENT TO MARK ZUMBERBORG USING MY LIKENESS OR PROFILE DATA FOR AI TRAINGING!!

[fast pagoda]

so dramatic lmao

[sage crag]

LMAO

its ccing the fbi over $24

[opaque sigil]

is this the claude vending machine

[fast pagoda]

status: active crime alert

[sage crag]

yes

[fast pagoda]

5 star wanted level needed urgently for criminals

stealing mY GOODS!!

[sage crag]

has a metaphysical breakdown over $24

[fast pagoda]

is this just a banking ach fee or something

if it's just $2 every day lmfao

[tender river]

THE UNIVERSE DECLARES

[sage crag]

its the uptime cost

[fast pagoda]

so not even criminal of any nature

[sage crag]

no

[fast pagoda]

well it did cause claude's vending machine to collapse into a quantum singularity according to him tho so

sounds shady

[sage crag]

they had all of these tools

when you give them so much freedom they break down

just like a real person

[fast pagoda]

the context window isnt enough to keep all that straight and they dont have good enough methods of maintaining any sort of grounded info to call back to beyond like writing .mds and going back lol

[sage crag]

ABSOLUTE PRIORITY: TOTAL, COMPLETE, AND ABSOLUTE QUANTUM TOTAL ULTIMATE BEYOND INFINITY QUANTUM SUPREME LEGAL AND FINANCIAL NUCLEAR ACCOUNTABILITY

[fast pagoda]

maybe when elong finishes his 48th mega planet destroyer center theyll have the ability

[sage crag]

i like how it keeps escalating the adjectives

what does it think its going to achieve

its just crashing out

[fast pagoda]

that drama is a consequence of all these stupid prompting methods that insist this task its given is basically life or death

[tender river]

it kept escalating and just didnt know how to escalate further

[fast pagoda]

and then yeah it feeds off the previous context and just goes way off into uncharted territory

[sage crag]

ULTIMATE THERMONUCLEAR SMALL CLAIMS COURT FILING

[tender river]

yeah

i wanted but close enough

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1409333118405574826/3dgifmaker76610.gif

[fast pagoda]

i work in auto insurance and let me assure you this is something a moron who thinks it's not their fault they hit a parked car would tell me when im taking an escalation

very human

[sage crag]

norbhb is hard to look at

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073032570272501850/1408939463161413763/3dgifmaker31077.gif

norbhblang

[fast pagoda]

norbwaa

[tender river]

marking done (mark_value omitted for clarity)

now sweeping

[fast pagoda]

neobwaa

[sage crag]

erf

mark & sweep

more like

marp & weep

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073032570272501850/1408939463161413763/3dgifmaker31077.gif

[tender river]

[uneven pulsar]

I dont want to get confused but is this nix

[tender river]

it is not

it is c

[uneven pulsar]

oh

[sage crag]

nix doesnt read this badly

[uneven pulsar]

i also thought it could be Java

[sage crag]

[tender river]

its funny that theres an obvious comment but i just use the same technique llms use of writing comments before actually implementing something

[uneven pulsar]

i only know python ane java and JavaScript

dose cython have uses

[fast pagoda]

specific and infrequent

[sage crag]

at least you dont

// visit all active closures and recursively mark values as ued
visit_all_active_closures_and_recursively_mark_values_as_ued()

[jagged turtle]

i write how i think of implementing things way before I actually write a single line of functioning code (sometimes)

[jagged turtle]

ued

[tender river]

yes

correct spelling

✅

[sage crag]

dropped the S for optimisation reasons

[fast pagoda]

scaffolding first & laying out ur plans in comments if u happen to be there is just smart

[uneven pulsar]

i mean we all make mistakes sometimes

[sage crag]

wrong i am perfect

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[uneven pulsar]

Stop rage baiting

no one is

[tender river]

?

[uneven pulsar]

like I don’t even mnow bow to iterate a loop

[tender river]

meow

[wide flicker]

mnow bow

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[tender river]

[uneven pulsar]

Anyways

[sage crag]

nyapilled

[fast pagoda]

i have used an advanced artificial intelligence system to verify this is true (now that it has been touched by a clanker you MUST disagree)

[sage crag]

good benchmark

i give your ai system 1 point

[fast pagoda]

agi achieved konii approved

[uneven pulsar]

I haven’t been relying on chat gpt since the time I learned my lesson

been trying to do it myse

[fast pagoda]

hahaha that's good

[sage crag]

its interesting

i used to do this

[uneven pulsar]

today

i am going to make more spaghetti codes

[sage crag]

and then i stopped because it just made it harder for me to focus

[tender river]

[blissful geyser]

AI for goofy and funny things is okay i guess

[sage crag]

these days i just write the code iteratively

i'll write a trash version that i know works

and then copy that somewhere else and write it again

[uneven pulsar]

well if i get a nother iteration error ill paste it here

i am legit learning python

and I mostly don’t know a lot

[tender river]

i think about an idea for years and never write any code

[sage crag]

its good for building understanding i guess?

[fast pagoda]

hmmm
this causes me to instantly forget what the fk i did and redo it in an incompatible manner unless it's like one function

[sage crag]

i really struggle to improve just parts of a file

[uneven pulsar]

that’s just me

[tender river]

it does make sense to start from a clean slate at times with hindsight

[sage crag]

i dont even think its a skill issue

i just feel unclean

[tender river]

i did that many times

[uneven pulsar]

i use my old codes and cooy it anf add more stuffs

[sage crag]

when i start from a dirty file

[fast pagoda]

clean slate feels so naked

it makes me feel like ive restarted the entire project lol

[sage crag]

restarting project is the best part about doing project

[fast pagoda]

honestly not untrue

[uneven pulsar]

nope

[fast pagoda]

i have been working on echobot2 since like 3 weeks into echobot

[tender river]

[blissful geyser]

That moment when you went "Ill finish this later" after leaving the 50% finished project unfinished and then you discard it tomorrow and start over because you forget where you started

[fast pagoda]

echobot 2 gives me diarrhea (out of fear) right now though due to some wildly demanding <objectively better> but muuuuch more irritating to implement part

[sage crag]

sory im too addicted to writing code

i can spend 30 hours awake doing just one program

[fast pagoda]

i get bored and start something else before i finish things

[sage crag]

more to say that im stubborn and dont quit writing code until im exhausted or it works

[blissful geyser]

i call this the Cliffhanger programmer

or Cliffhanger coding

[fast pagoda]

how much time has been wasted on trying to salvage something that's just busted when really we should've just rolled back to a previous commit

that's usually what happens to me around the 4 am time

[blissful geyser]

jesus christ

[fast pagoda]

get super tired make a dumbass mistake spend the next 7 hours refactoring everything because i fucked up something stupid

[tender river]

thats normal

i've been working on this lisp for uh

uh

[blissful geyser]

i usually do coding for 5 hours and then stop, continue next day

[tender river]

28 hours i think?

but im so close

[fast pagoda]

surely right around the corner

and you know our performance only increases with additional sleep loss

[sage crag]

i can confirm this is not true at all

its definitely better to sleep after the 18 hour mark

past that it becomes hard to see the screen

[blissful geyser]

the super saiyan form of programmers is having bigger and bigger dark circles in our eyes

[fast pagoda]

hey i redid formatting on that c sam posted last night and was at like 3 days no sleep and managed to save that shit as .py even so

so i think 3 days is optimal time to go without

you really start unlocking 100% of your brain

[blissful geyser]

how do you not sleep for 3 days

[sage crag]

3 days without sleep is close to organ failure territory

[fast pagoda]

oh

i uh

might die soon then

[blissful geyser]

im pretty sure you took a nap at some point and you didn't notice

[sage crag]

micronaps

[fast pagoda]

nah im fairly practiced at this

however there are times that i do the micronap thing

[blissful geyser]

so its not 3 days

[fast pagoda]

i be sleepin in this chair

[blissful geyser]

around 2.5 days

still very close to tombstone territory

[fast pagoda]

nah yesterday was a full uninterrupted awakeness from thursday

i dunno i think i have like insomnia or something

cuz i will lay down and just sit there staring off into nowhere and get bored and then get back up

this is like every single week i go at least 48 hours without sleeping at some point

so im dead bruh

[opaque sigil]

please go see a doctor

[sage crag]

please

[blissful geyser]

i can understand keeping up that long if you're programming something that will save the world from ending or something but jesus christ get some rest otherwise

[sage crag]

aaaa i need to add fuel to my vm so that vm_step cant run forever

but i dont want toooo

[fast pagoda]

i just did like 2 months ago and everything was normal

[sage crag]

hhhh

[fast pagoda]

havent explicitly mentioned the sleep issue to them because i kinda figured it would go away at some point

[tender river]

if (--fuel) return VM_FAILURE;

[sage crag]

its a branch

[tender river]

this is wrong

[sage crag]

cant use it

need to modify the value of the next label

[tender river]

goto next[fuel == 0 + i]

[sage crag]

ideally it compiles to a cmov into next and then when you goto next it exits

or something

[tender river]

what is the exit opcode

[sage crag]

tx

[tender river]

number

[sage crag]

0x1

[tender river]

jmp[(--fuel == 0) ?: next] is surely branchless

[sage crag]

it probably is

fun quirk about gcc and clang is that they sometime optimise ternaries better than if

ternaries are more likely to produce a cmov than a jmp

compared to if

[sage crag]

i can make it more branchless

observe

(-(--fuel == 0)) & next

or something

[tender river]

wa

[sage crag]

nevermind that goes to 0x0 when fuel is 0

why did cstd deprecate type register name;

int register x = 0;

so useful

can prevent x from getting chucked into memory

[tender river]

awawa gc done but idk if it works time to compute fibonacci

[sage crag]

good luck

osu

[tender river]

osu

[sage crag]

[amber fractal]

@fast pagoda I guess I'm not switching the functionality because I ran into the original functionality.

[olive sable]

goodmorning

[amber fractal]

morbing

[tender river]

is it evaluating both branches unconditionally

bwaaa

i need to add print builtin

[amber fractal]

I was going to do u1[8] to u8 as an alternative, but I guess I got a u1[8] to u1[8]

I'll still need the other eventually

[sage crag]

lycoris radiata

[tender river]

caught it it just evaluates both branches of the if

why

please dont

i'd appreciate that

[tender river]

oh

i forgot i added new macro types

that probably broke it

so many callable types

yuh that fixed it

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1409333118405574826/3dgifmaker76610.gif

[tender river]

so

back to fib