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sage crag
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im fairly certain its much faster

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im also fairly certain it has more bugs

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less code though

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whole vm is just 200 lines

fast pagoda
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I dunno, probably because greed
I don't use Netflix so I have no idea what their pricing/tiers even are these days

sage crag
tender river
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my lisp is 1k lines right now but its a frankenstein stuck between rewrites so it will get smaller

olive sable
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or it was when we started our subscriptiona t least

sage crag
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i think this one is my favourite macro

fast pagoda
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By the time I got into building my PC and ocing and stuff it was right on the last generation to use nb/sb I think (the first CPU I placed in a socket for my own PC was an i5-750)
4770k was next and it was long gone by then I think Sandy bridge was the end

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Back when the mobo mattered more since you were choosing the supporting io chipset and such as well
Rip Nvidia chipset mobos (not missed)

stray dragon
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blackhole p100a: 28gb GDDR6 RAM, 448 GBps memory bandwidth, $1000
blackhole p150a: 32gb GDDR6 RAM, 512 GBps memory bandwidth, $1400
used RTX 3090: 24gb GDDR6X RAM, 936.2 GBps memory bandwidth, $600-$900

apparently it's about 2x worse than a 3090 for running LLMs, mostly due to the memory bandwidth being lower (which is the bottleneck for LLMs, usually). it seems they can scale up better than nvidia gpus without nvlink, but you'd need a lot of them to really see the benefits of that

there's also the question of software support, since these don't have cuda cores.

tldr used 3090 better

fast pagoda
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Mobos feel so samey the last 10 years.

It's like pay $100-150 from literally any brand they're all the same

Or pay 2-300 to get whatever goofy stuff they feel like adding OR top end wifi or something but no other real improvements

Or pay $500+ because you want actually good vrm and Io and that's apparently now the level you need to go to get it

fast pagoda
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But anyone capable of doing that prob is filling jacuzzis with Benjamins because they work for Nvidia on cuda

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Where's my turnkey, FOSS implementation backed by a multi million dollar reverse engineering operation and risking insane IP lawsuits everywhere on earth from the richest company on earth

For free brau

opaque sigil
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i wish companies weren't so scared of putting in the investment to make something better than cuda instead of just trying to match it neuroSadge

fast pagoda
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But they don't want to alienate those loyal and common rocm using devs

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Can't go too crazy gotta be conservative with your moonshot

uneven pulsar
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may i ask what other types of algorithms are there than brute force

fast pagoda
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Uh

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Greedy

uneven pulsar
fast pagoda
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Just look at search techniques really

uneven pulsar
olive sable
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ok i found that what works is

layers.acceleration.force-enabled: true
An optional fallback flag that can be used to force OpenGL compositor acceleration if the primary gfx.webrender flag does not appear to be working.

but this jsut makes me get an error output instead of nothing

firefox
libva error: /usr/lib/dri/nvidia_drv_video.so init failed
libva error: /usr/lib/dri/nvidia_drv_video.so init failed
...
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
...
olive sable
opaque sigil
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you said the RDD env variable didn't do anything right

fast pagoda
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Branching/backing/greedy/graph/heuristics in general, parallelizable methods, neural type Ml approaches

olive sable
sage crag
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i ran the c preprocessor on the vm

olive sable
tender river
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javaC

sage crag
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200 lines straight to 700 lines

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use functions or macros kids

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every one of these lines was generated with a macro

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im amazed it works

tender river
fast pagoda
sage crag
tender river
tender river
sage crag
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defy all compilation

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because its lazy

tender river
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no

sage crag
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and self modifying

tender river
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yes

sage crag
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or something

fast pagoda
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Become uncompilable

sage crag
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python lisp

tender river
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lazy languages are easy to compile

sage crag
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relatively speaking

fast pagoda
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What about hard working single parent languages

sage crag
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that's c

tender river
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hard to compile languages are ones that are as dynamic as possible

fast pagoda
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Kek

sage crag
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its easy to compile a minimal subset of c

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hard to compile c

opaque sigil
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parsing c neuroAware

tender river
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it can be done in one pass

sage crag
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no one likes single pass compilers

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declaration order is such a bore

tender river
uneven pulsar
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wait like Greedy algorithms are a class of algorithms that make locally optimal choices right? at each step with the hope of finding a global solution for it so it can it be used to optimize the behavior descion making wait isnt that the type of algorithm used in ai can someone explain not sure

tender river
sage crag
uneven pulsar
fast pagoda
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Greedy decoding would be like 0 temp I think

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In an llm context

opaque sigil
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it ✨depends✨

uneven pulsar
fast pagoda
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Unless I have that switched and it's 1.0 temp kek

opaque sigil
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there are a bazillion ways of tackling optimisation problems

tender river
uneven pulsar
opaque sigil
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most game devs are super disconnected from the actual code that runs, they're a couple layers above

uneven pulsar
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good thing indie devs exists

fast pagoda
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Well it's not that they forget it's that their game engine is the thing that would be optimized and like toast said there's a huuuiuuge disconnect there

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And any other optimizing is expensive for shit that csuite doesn't care about

olive sable
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ue5 just is the biggest piece of dogshit but it makes games easier to shit out every year for their annual releases

uneven pulsar
tender river
uneven pulsar
tender river
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with enough macros

sage crag
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aside from #if etc

tender river
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awa

fast pagoda
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Searches are fun to look at for algorithms because it's something that's very well visualizable and thus understandable imo
https://youtu.be/xlVX7dXLS64?si=T_0PHRO690jY6FX6
Videos like this are great

In this video we break down the BFS algorithm in a visual manner with examples and key intuition. We then show the implementation of the algorithm with code and then finish off the video by demonstrating how you can use the BFS algorithm to solve the Flood Fill problem.

0:00 Introduction
0:45 BFS Intuition/Examples
2:39 BFS Implementation
5:19 ...

▶ Play video
uneven pulsar
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like bru i ain't speeding 2000$ to play a gameASTr1ck

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like

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ultrakill runs fine on crappy laptops

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i mea half of the graphics or cutten of but still can fully play the game

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and still smooth gameplay

fast pagoda
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I mean. Windows runs like total shit compared to Linux in almost any form and any metric but here we are
Brute force is the foundation for computing since forever

uneven pulsar
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unlike UNLIKE DOOM DARK AGES who needs 9000 cuda cores and a gpu thats greater than an rtx 5060

olive sable
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i feel like ive said this before a hundred times, but lumen is a terrible lighting engine, nanite activly worsens performance insead of saving like advertised, and ue5 makes the game-devs so detached from the actual hardware that for most its really easy to make the gpu compute way more than you actually need.

uneven pulsar
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FUCK NVIDEA

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AND FUCK THERE STUPID PRICES

fast pagoda
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I don't know if I've ever had the thought or heard anyone say "I hope lumen is available"

It's bloom (impact wise for the user not technique or anything obviously) with extreme compute penalties

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Aka worthless

uneven pulsar
olive sable
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the thing is, a 3060ti is good enough to run the highest fidelity games, if they would just optemise their games and actually spent some time on inovatinng for better systems

fast pagoda
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Good for screenshots on ur steam page

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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I wish there were a 60 class consumer card with 48gb of vram or something

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Cuda required so Nvidia only

uneven pulsar
opaque sigil
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go to china you can have one probably

fast pagoda
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That's true I need to visit that brother guy's shop

uneven pulsar
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this was the only game

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that was well optimized

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THE ONLY GAME

olive sable
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the thing is, for playing video games, i do believe that nvidea is right and that 8-12GB is probably enough. but for that to be the case devs would need to optemise vram usage, and we all know they wont

sage crag
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i have 512mb vram

olive sable
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512mb is kinda sad ngl

sage crag
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igpu

uneven pulsar
olive sable
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igpu use ram as vram no?

sage crag
olive sable
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huh

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interesting

opaque sigil
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makes sense

uneven pulsar
opaque sigil
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most things don't need that much vram

uneven pulsar
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and used for data centers

fast pagoda
opaque sigil
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may as well have a bit of dedicated memory for that

olive sable
olive sable
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or well, they can be

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its not their main purpose tho

fast pagoda
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I guess if you look at it from the perspective of maybe it's used in a DC because the system has no GPU and it's in a rack somewhere but you need something for some display

uneven pulsar
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all of this

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runs on a gtx card

fast pagoda
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Hell I saw a post about this the other day and I agree, crysis 3 looks incredible and runs extremely easily these days

uneven pulsar
olive sable
uneven pulsar
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for creating the super unnecessary extra vertex

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i mean

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not only game devs are stupid

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but 3D moddelers are also a hinge to blame

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for making bad LOD moddels and making the model so shit that its extra vertexes are slowing the fuck out of the game

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like did they even make a proper vertex form for there model NO?

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did they ever look if there model is too vram wasting NO

olive sable
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lets say uncompressed a 4Kx4K texture is 64MB, we'll say each object has a texturemap, normal map, specular map, and bump map. that gives us 256MB. then we have room for 32 of those objects in our scene at 8GB vram.
but like, ofcourse we will reuse a lot of those textures and bump maps, normal maps and specular maps dont need to be in 4K, nevermind it being uncompresses

uneven pulsar
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if the models are like wow super good

olive sable
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"im just trying to prove a poin that you shoudlnt make the graphics higher for no reason besides big number go bigger. we like 4K"

uneven pulsar
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but shitly vertex wasting

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its just show how bad the moddeler is

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i mean

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literally take doom dark ages

olive sable
uneven pulsar
olive sable
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yes

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exaclty

inner pike
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What is everyones thoughts on windows 11 bricking peoples ssds ?

olive sable
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shit

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but like, it classic microsoft

uneven pulsar
uneven pulsar
olive sable
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i am on linux so im fine

noble zodiac
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if I had gotten 1 dollar for everytime people said that windows is bricking X I would have enough dollars to replace the 12 PCs that must have been destroyed in recent years

uneven pulsar
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like idk

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i mean where are you even gonna get 1m dollars

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and who's going to give you 1$ per second

fast pagoda
olive sable
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i think i may have fixed my nvidia drivers shit not working, maybe. i can use the st option of the hyprland login now instead of needing the nd one

fast pagoda
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i mean it is "The Year Of The Linux Desktop ™"

olive sable
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it is always the year of the linux desktop

fast pagoda
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of course but i keep seeing random "influencers" repeating it for this year
logic being that windows 10 went out of support & also the mainstream distros are finally actually usable to the point that i would trust my parents to use my computer without destroying it now which is pog

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"usable" being "idiot proof-erer than before"

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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but yeah hyprland is rough as fk on nvidia ive gotten it working on cachy a few times but it wasn't particularly "stable"

olive sable
proper rapids
opaque sigil
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nice 0s

fast pagoda
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over ~16 years

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helped a lot that intel was sandbagging from the 4770k timeframe all the way till like rocket lake due to AMD remembering how to make a good cpu finally

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shit barely improved from 2013->2020

olive sable
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linux is a bitch to get working, but when you get it to work its so fucking nice

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now my pc doesnt airplane when i watch youtube

fast pagoda
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once you hit the config that works for you as far as setup goes AND you've ironed out the random shit that tends to happen definitely

olive sable
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nah i played resident evil 4 inbetween

fast pagoda
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ahh ok that makes sense i was gonna say wtf did it take lmao

olive sable
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friend was over and i have the game room and stuff so we all come to my place

fast pagoda
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damn ballin

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mr rockefeller over here with a game room

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i miss that about living in a house

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just having extra rooms

olive sable
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i finished res evil 4 today actually

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good game

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i wish ashly wasnt so annoying tho

fast pagoda
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the new remaster?

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or OG

olive sable
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og

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on gamecube

fast pagoda
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based

olive sable
fast pagoda
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classic 480p on the flatscreen nostalgia

olive sable
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480p on a 4k tv

fast pagoda
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even better

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well i guess that's what i run my gamecube on

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are there tvs under 4k now

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i swear the tv i use was basically free and it's 4k

olive sable
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which for some reason gets recognized everywhere as 4096 pixels wide eventho its 3840

fast pagoda
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lmfao

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that is still 4k btw

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it's just 2 different aspect ratios

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4096x2560 is just 16:10

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instead of the 3840x2160 UHD standard

olive sable
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Even my tablet saw it wrongly

fast pagoda
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oh

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no 2560

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well idk what the fuck is going on there then xd

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overscan issue?

olive sable
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idk

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its a tv from 2015 so probably just quirks from very early 4K?

fast pagoda
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what happens if you slap that boi in 4096x2160 mode with a UHD source

olive sable
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its also a 3D tv so potentially just weird driver stuff

fast pagoda
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oh i forgot about those

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are they still a thing lmao

olive sable
fast pagoda
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i mean besides old ones

opaque sigil
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there are some 3d monitors

fast pagoda
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because 3d

olive sable
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sometimes 4096 is fullscreen and 3840 has blackbars, and sometimes 3840 is fulslcreen and 4096 gets squished

fast pagoda
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never used it

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er

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VQ27 i think

olive sable
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lg 45gx950a

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i think

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no

fast pagoda
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thank u sir i will return with a set of useless speculation for u

olive sable
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i have a bunch of tv models saved on my phone but i dont know which one is what tv

fast pagoda
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well looking up the 45gx950a made me aware that WUHD exists as 5120x2160

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im surprised i didnt run across that when looking to buy this current wideboi aw3225qf

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i probably did and just said who gives a shit actually

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oh dang the aw3225qf is on sale for $900 bux rn again

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me

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highly recommended

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idk why i said me

opaque sigil
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i'm waiting for the new tcl monitors to come to europe Waiting

fast pagoda
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mini-led flavour?

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or do they have oleds now

opaque sigil
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nah all mini led

fast pagoda
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i was very close to saving myself so much money just getting a mini led but i am stupid and this went on sale for $850 so the $600ish mini led i was looking at no longer was that much more of a great value

olive sable
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ah i found it

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LG 49UB850V

fast pagoda
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usually if it's on sale here microcenter will have it

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and mine does not

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just older ones

opaque sigil
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it only exists in china as a ffalcon u9

olive sable
opaque sigil
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actually i think you can buy it in japan too

fast pagoda
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oh lord forgot some countries do be controversial

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i found it in some middle eastern ecommerce

opaque sigil
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sounds about right

fast pagoda
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tried to link it and got autosniped lol

opaque sigil
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modify the EDID neuroPogHD

olive sable
# olive sable LG 49UB850V

also something weird about that tv, it has 10bit colour, but only on hdmi-3
but my ps4 nor laptop nor the xbox's recognize it as hdr even on that hdmi-3 port.
and the tv itself complain too that the port is only meant for hdr and that it doesnt see hdr and wants me to turn of hdr in settings

opaque sigil
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i had the (dis)pleasure of doing this because thank you for making a 10 bit monitor that can't handle 10 bit colours samsung

fast pagoda
olive sable
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huh

fast pagoda
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hdmi 2.0+ i think can do 10bit

olive sable
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i thought if the cable supported 4K it should work for hdr, but i maybe shoudl try another cable

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alright

fast pagoda
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nope

opaque sigil
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unfortunately not that simple

fast pagoda
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it's a bandwidth issue

olive sable
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hdmi cables are so ass cuz they're not even labeled 9/10 times

fast pagoda
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18gbps from hdmi2 is enough

fast pagoda
opaque sigil
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i just use the cable that comes with the display

fast pagoda
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plus u gotta think refresh rate too cuz that's impacting bandwidth

fast pagoda
opaque sigil
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Mhm

fast pagoda
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i love cheap and stupid manufacturers though

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they save me $2

olive sable
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i liked hdmi when it just worked. the ps4 came with a hdmi cable that supported eeverything, ps5 also came with one. but my tv nor laptop had one and then you need to wizard magic one form the mysterious cabe box

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and we all know those hdmi cables in the mysterious cable box are bad

fast pagoda
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well everything has been evolving

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hdmi been around a hot minute now

opaque sigil
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i like hdmi (exluding the forum)

olive sable
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i lik it mostly

opaque sigil
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eARC is pretty cool

fast pagoda
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e-arc IS pog

olive sable
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how many channels does e-arc support?

fast pagoda
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i just am talking like pc displays mainly i do not careabout tvs much

opaque sigil
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apparently 8 channels for hdmi 2.1

olive sable
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eARC supports up to 32 channels

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damn

olive sable
fast pagoda
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oops wasnt supposed to be a reply

olive sable
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nah its fine

opaque sigil
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oh it is 32 channels

fast pagoda
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it's actually wild just how much fking bandwidth displays are using all the time

opaque sigil
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192kHz, 24-bit, and uncompressed 5.1 and 7.1, and 32-channel uncompressed audio
though this is 2.1b

olive sable
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surely dolby atmos or whatever dolby stuff does some funny compression stuff i could use

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i need it to do 13 channels + lfe

fast pagoda
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there's regular ol arc

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oh

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i dont think thatll do that

olive sable
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balls

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i could probably go through the receiver and then the tv?

nocturne olive
olive sable
fast pagoda
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i have never heard my cpu fans because it's an AIO and im p sure i hooked up the fan controller in such a way that makes me an idiot moron and it'sjust constant speed

opaque sigil
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pump go brrr

fast pagoda
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the pump be pumping

olive sable
opaque sigil
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i hope thermosiphon cooling becomes actually viable at some point

fast pagoda
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what is that swamp cooling in disguise or

opaque sigil
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imagine a vapor chamber

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but big

fast pagoda
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holy

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groundbreaking

opaque sigil
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the goal is basically to have an aio without a pump

olive sable
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imagine vapor chamber: full of vapor Minamhm
but big: basicly a swamp ye

fast pagoda
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i am never confident that non pumped/passive type cooling will ever fdo it

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because if it can

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then nvidia is gonna put out a 2000 watt card

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and intel boutta release that 1500 watt core i900

opaque sigil
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nvidia cards already all need vapour chambers

fast pagoda
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and still barely catch up

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yeah they do lol

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gpu coolers are workin

tender river
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vaporsigma

fast pagoda
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hardest working cooling in the system reall

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which i mean it's the most power in one place usually

opaque sigil
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those coolers are black magic

olive sable
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most gpu coolers are well built enough to have some headroom as long as you have case-fans

opaque sigil
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thermodynamics in general is tbf

fast pagoda
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cold air go in, power go in, heat & slop come out

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you cant explain that

languid spoke
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I go in. I go out. I go in and I shake it all about.

olive sable
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i remember when i first got this pc my 3090 was alway hitting 97C at 100% usage, and then i moved my exhaust fan to infront of my 3090 and now i never go above 80

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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i wish the FE cards didnt use their fucking triaangle ass board so i could just buy a shit tier 5090 and slap the FE cooler on

opaque sigil
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oh damn nvm the 9965 only has a tdp of 500W neuroSadge

fast pagoda
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i was just looking up the 9965 lol

opaque sigil
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though usually you'd run two of them so there's that

fast pagoda
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only 500 watts to run multiple vrms with hundreds of dooms simultaneously WHILE working in blender

opaque sigil
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and them being as massive as they are makes cooling them a lot easier

olive sable
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i like the triangle boards in the FE's. makes waterblocks smnaller

fast pagoda
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song for denise plays when you open up an epyc case for a reason

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thank god that wide edits are still being made

opaque sigil
olive sable
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that was jsut bad power managment

opaque sigil
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yes cause the pcb is so damn small

olive sable
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as far as i understood it wasnt the pcb, but the cables?

opaque sigil
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a bit of both, the gpu doesn't know which cable carries how much current

olive sable
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ive been thinking about that video someone shared here a couple days ago about how teardown optimized their voxel engine.
i think its funny how the best use for raytracing so far has been to not use it for reflections

fast pagoda
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i didnt tthink

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have mercy for the triangle mindworm is back

sage crag
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triangle hblang

fast pagoda
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speaking of, wonder if i ever got around to cloning that repo

sage crag
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awa

olive sable
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raytracing for voxels init

fast pagoda
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i could see ray tracing having use with voxels never thought of that before ig

olive sable
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as CEO of the triangle, you have all been indoctrinated as sleeper agents.

fast pagoda
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i still never even notice if rt is actually on or not

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i am oblivious and thus immune to it

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raytracing beads up and slides right off my smooth visual cortex

olive sable
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this is a lot cheaper

opaque sigil
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speaking of ray tracing, i've been wondering

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who started the whole bvh dragon thing

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was it nvidia

olive sable
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The Stanford dragon is a computer graphics 3D test model created with a Cyberware 3030 Model Shop (MS) Color 3D scanner at Stanford University. Data for the model was produced in 1996.
The dragon consists of data describing 871,414 triangles determined by 3D scanning a real figurine. The data set is often used to test various graphics algorithms...

fast pagoda
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ti comes from stan

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god dammit

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yes it's from the stanford dragon

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but RT

opaque sigil
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oh interesting

crystal sleet
olive sable
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but this is just a single method to do so

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ussualy you want to go the other way around, with starting at the eyes and seeing how many lightsources you hit

fast pagoda
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cant find chromium.png for some reason
go digging
this is what i saved it as

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i hate myself

opaque sigil
olive sable
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is that joke too far?

fast pagoda
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honestly

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i probably saved it thinking something similar and chuckling like an ass

olive sable
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aight

trim valve
olive sable
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would hblang be faster than c++?

sage crag
sage crag
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generally no

olive sable
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ah

sage crag
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but to a negligible level

olive sable
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hmmm

sage crag
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if you dont consider things like autovectorisation

olive sable
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ah yes, autovectorisation

sage crag
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which dont typically get applied unless you specify -march= -mtune=

olive sable
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i think i do something liek that maybe

sage crag
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in terms of in practice, hblang is the same speed as c, c++, rust, etc

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typically you will be using external libraries

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unless you compile to hbvm, in which case its only about 8x faster than python (so far in my testing)

olive sable
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so no real increase in the trianlge then. ok

fast pagoda
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level 2 guy who loves HDR or AI

sage crag
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it doesnt matter what you use for that, since you are just calling into libc and vulkan libraries

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you can use any compiled language for a similar performance

sage crag
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slop

fast pagoda
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it is slop

olive sable
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welll....

fast pagoda
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it is apparently the best among sota from my testing since that other was posted

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though

olive sable
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they can grow like that irrc, but i dont remember how it works

fast pagoda
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absent other pre-processing

olive sable
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wdym?

sage crag
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its so funny, om

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it doesnt even look like branches

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tendrils at best

fast pagoda
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branch said skrrtt

sage crag
#

its so obvious

fast pagoda
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this was the only model that doesnt produce the shitt artifact with foliage and why i used this particular one

sage crag
#

ai images are good at giving the illusion of detail but turn out to have no real substance when you zoom in

sage crag
olive sable
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im jsut stupid i guess, i dont see what yall are seeing

sage crag
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trees dont look like this

fast pagoda
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flux krea (garbage result as were all):

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qwen image:

sage crag
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if you know what i mean

fast pagoda
#

runway gen4:

olive sable
#

im a road expert, not a tree expert

fast pagoda
olive sable
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i cant remember the last time i looked at a tree

fast pagoda
#

right now

olive sable
#

those arent trees

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according to yall

fast pagoda
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they are the idea of a tree

tender river
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trees arer eal

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i traverse tjhem every day

fast pagoda
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the one here that actually didnt do the shitty patterning on foliage is wan2.2image

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but yeah it cant do branches instead

sage crag
tender river
sage crag
fast pagoda
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gpt 5 (i think it's still just using whatever the image-1 model is tho) did ok at branches

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still just looks wrong though

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and the grass and plants are sloppy still just not as egregious

sage crag
#

its better but if you zoom in they still arent substantive

tender river
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the colors are weird

fast pagoda
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yeah it just did better at not including billions of them for no reason in every direction

sage crag
#

that's part of it

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you dont notice stuff like this immediately but its obvious if you look closer

olive sable
#

when i go outside, which happens rarely during july and august, i dont spend time to look at stuff cuz im ussualy on a mission.
this is the belgian sam's hibernation season

fast pagoda
#

that is part of the feel yeah and why i said the HDR thing originally lol cuz these ones are giving bigg "i just found out bout HDR in 2014" energy

sage crag
#

or perhaps the hyper-regular foliage and trees

tender river
sage crag
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or the fact that gpt thinks that saplings are just smaller versions of adult trees

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om

fast pagoda
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the branches and the way they are lit from behind looks like babby's first CS6 attempt

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??

olive sable
#

this just looks like someone really liked global illlumination

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opened gmod, and globally iluminated all over the place

sage crag
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it doesnt really look like GI, more like bad tonemapping

fast pagoda
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bloom: on
motion blur: max
dlss: 720p upscale max performance

sage crag
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someone cranked up the saturation and constrast

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i hate ai slop

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even the puddles dont hold up under inspection

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"dubious brown patch"

fast pagoda
#

it looks more like a dried up clayish former puddle

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to me

olive sable
#

that looks like dead algee ngl

tender river
#

WHAT WHY

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oh

sage crag
#

it would never happen on this type of road

tender river
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i wrote the new lisp evaluator

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and it worked first try

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except i didnt switch to it

fast pagoda
#

i like how you reacted in this channel in real time

tender river
#

i got really confused when it worked

fast pagoda
#

to your test

crystal sleet
#

The story progression

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The conclusion, the twist, the suspense

tender river
#

neuroPogHD ✅ the new evaluator doesnt work

olive sable
sage crag
fast pagoda
#

mmmm godrays literally everywhere

olive sable
#

godrays SCHIZO

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i fucking hate godrays, they are a performance nightmare

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unless you fake them

fast pagoda
#

i am personally responsible for all godrays and other similar effects irl AND artificial

olive sable
#

shame on you

fast pagoda
#

that's why they call crepuscular rays "jacob's ladder"

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i am jacob

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i am HIM

olive sable
#

go fuck yourself jacob

fast pagoda
#

thank u

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all me

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candid pic of me at work

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i am just shitposting idk why sorry about that

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i did not clone the repo

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however i did find this

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it's just a guy saying triangle

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i shall fork the triangle and add that sound

olive sable
# olive sable i fucking hate godrays, they are a performance nightmare

Download the source code for the game engine and all my videos here: https://patreon.com/vercidium

I spent the past 6 years creating a game engine and I've been shocked at the things that can make or break performance.

I've compared 2 sunlight rendering methods and created a 3rd method that runs 70x faster.

Music is Irradiant and Spirit by Di...

▶ Play video
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oh i copied the wrong time

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l;emme edit that

fast pagoda
#

gamers will love this
this is a true statement for literally anything as long as you call it AAA and maybe add rgb + underdeliver the product itself

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the hell just happened

olive sable
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i changed the timestamp

fast pagoda
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lmao

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discord didnt lik that for a second

#

what would a boomer do when presented with this series of options

olive sable
#

bigger number better

opaque sigil
#

pick the top one enub

fast pagoda
#

yeah theyd probably be auto enjoyers ig

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i think my grandma would just stop using the computer

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seeing this

fast pagoda
#

to 7s

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why

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it's mid sentence lmfoaooo why not just no timestamp

olive sable
#

cuz the part that i wanted to show is 7s in

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nobody wants to see the stupid intro

fast pagoda
#

if i dont see the intro and hear the sincerity of the creator pleading me to watch his video i cannot continue

olive sable
#

"hi my name is dont care and i spent the last 7 yers doing this shit"

fast pagoda
#

kek

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i think that will be my intro if i ever become a youtuber that's good stuff

olive sable
fast pagoda
#

now it's 2025

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theyre still on winxp in some of those places

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for some systems

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i dont think you could connect an XP box to the internet without serious monitoring because that thing will become a bot

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at this point

olive sable
#

connect to internety -> immediatly get hacked -> join the botnet

fast pagoda
#

anyone an expert at fixing the fact that i dont have mp4 previews in dolphin atm

fast pagoda
#

if lucky

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probably minutes before something finds it and just pwns it instantly because unpatched xp

crystal sleet
opaque sigil
fast pagoda
#

they were splits but they should have athumbnail i think

rigid snow
fast pagoda
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wtf

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why would you say that

opaque sigil
#

i would love to tell you how to fix it but fortunately my thumbnails just work neurojuice

fast pagoda
#

🅱️ime flies despairge

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works on my machine indeed

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im pissed

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they are not videos

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they are the AUDIO TRACK from an mp4 iwth the extension left mp4

rigid snow
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audio in mp4 container

fast pagoda
#

i figured that would not be it considering there are also mp3s there

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right i would expect m4a to be the extension

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which again IS THERE

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so why do i have a .mp4 that is also audio from teh same video lmao

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wehre did the video go

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everything is so hard

opaque sigil
#

morale of the story: use mkv mhm

fast pagoda
#

i cannot because half the time people shit themselves if you try to post one in discord

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and all i do is spam random shit all over the place in discord half the time

#

query: ios discord still doesnt support inline viewing webms

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is this true

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i really hope so

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i dont know if anyone here actually uses a pearphone though

opaque sigil
crystal sleet
#

Make or find a system to convert it when you try to send it

fast pagoda
#

that looks like wayland on occasion tbh so could be anything

opaque sigil
#

this is just the first webm i could find

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didn't want to record a new one

fast pagoda
#

oh i missed the point of you posting it

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well it works for me

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because i dont use apple phones

#

but i am just HOPING that i can continue dangling that as a reason to not use iphones entirely

cant watch muh webms so cant use an iphone seems reasonable

proper rapids
fast pagoda
#

noppe

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actually

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prgress resumed so

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i ALLMMOSTT bought a 9950x3d last week i was literally at microcenter about to ask the dude to open the case

proper rapids
fast pagoda
#

but then they didnt have the mobo in stock so i was like eh

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ive gone to microcenter like

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4-5 times

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in the last month

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with the intent of getting essentially a 9950x3d, a 5090, at least 64 more gb of ddr5 since i already have 64 sitting here

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but keep going in there and buying keyboard shit

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because the prices are sliightly higher than i want (which is msrp which is unrealistic because greed which is preventing microcenter from getting 3-4k from me atm i guess so... rekt)

proper rapids
#

Good lord

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Got a use case in store for that build?

#

Or use cases

fast pagoda
#

i get fomo when upgrading things and actually have money to my name now so i mentally am required to purchase top tier if at all possible otherwise i will regret it forever

#

just like i regret this 3080

#

which was a compromise because no 3090 stock in covid nightmare

#

it's a horrible disease i have actually because like i cannot stand not buying top trim of a given car im looking at, require myself to buy the top end (consumer) pc parts i can get my grubs on, spend way too much on everything in general

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for minimal benefit im sure

#

but the use case specifically of the 5090 would be inference, need vram to improve echo more without ruining my own life running him

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and i generally experiment with all types of model which all require a lotta vram

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lot of slop has been generated over here, never to see the light of day because it just lives on my storage drive taking up space for some reason

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oh and just normal devwork shit which generally likes to have resources

proper rapids
#

I understand where you're coming from

sage crag
#

xxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx

fast pagoda
proper rapids
#

You'll know you wont be out of luck the moment you want that extra hp

#

oh shit, ima click that rn

fast pagoda
#

im glad i saw the movie before it got yeeted cuz i i think it is still down

#

but yeah i mean running into limitations: shitty and annoying and hard to solve

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so just become unlimitable

#

within the capacity of humanity at this time ig

#

oh lawd he's walking into bloomberg's office

tender river
opaque sigil
#

looks fine to me

tender river
#

i'm pushing and popping stack frames

#

but i'm doing it wrong

#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

proper rapids
#

Security guard decent though

sage crag
proper rapids
#

The head of* not the one outside lol

tender river
sage crag
#

blame uh

#

its ablecorp working conditions

#

yeah

tender river
#

blame the compiler devs

#

my code doesnt work correctly when i compile with clang

fast pagoda
fast pagoda
#

at least he wasnt thrown out physically lol

proper rapids
#

Don't miss dealing with the public

fast pagoda
#

it suck

#

so mmuchlmao

proper rapids
#

It does bro

#

you in it?

fast pagoda
#

nope not anymore thank god

#

my total lack of faith in humanity remains however

#

50s/60s computers are really something

tender river
#

they're asking kids to do regalloc

fast pagoda
#

back when i was in school it was regalloc but now theyre teaching some 'new' regalloc2
math doesnt change!!!!!1

tender river
#

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

sage crag
tender river
fast pagoda
#

they should add vibration motors to nvme/sata ssds

#

when something is accessing my HDD

#

i know that thning is being access

#

i can feel the motion of the drive as it seeks thru my desk lmao

#

i need that for every drive

#

true security is when you know what a malicious vibration feels like if ur getting pwned

#

well i did literally nothing

#

just got it to build

#

i actually removed the linker being specified and let gcc figure itout because clang was exploding and upset

#

but apparently that's good for 63k with no other changes

#

i feel like i have to be missing something becasue that seems to be a good result per the board but that also beats 5950x and 4070 ti which should be better than 5900x w/ 3080 or similar lmao am i extremely clueless?

#

kde is not enjoying rendering this window with the way my decorations and such are

tender river
#

how did this happen

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helix making me feel like a new vim user

fast pagoda
#

that's just using vi et all

#

im pretty sure the editor has a malicious ai in there that just does shit

#

stuff just happens

tender river
#

its just a matter of getting used to it

#

when someone uses my g502 they always end up pressing the macro keys on accident

#

same applies to vim

fast pagoda
#

g502 user

#

based

tender river
#

i like having buttons

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scroll wheel is nice too

fast pagoda
#

i have like 4 g502s
2 were gifts of the lightspeed and hero version and ive just been waiting for this one to die to use one of those

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but it refuses to

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only one retired one which was an OG OG (rounded G logo and everything with the original sensor) and that thing still works but everything else on it has been worn to nothing

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im pretty sure my g9 still works

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actually

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the g502 of 2006

tender river
fast pagoda
#

did u hold alt or something

tender river
#

thats not how it works but basically

fast pagoda
#

i have no idea

#

vi and its descendants are the most vexing pieces of software ever written for me

#

brain no worko

tender river
#

cant learn completely new keybindings in 2 minutes its so over

fast pagoda
#

me every time

#

without a hint of irony

tender river
#

cant type dvorak why even have a keyboard

fast pagoda
#

to be fair usually if i'm opening just

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a text editor

#

i usually just need to change something in 3 seconds in a dotfile or something

#

and i aint taking the vim tutorial for that

#

ill just be like oh shit vim is default

#

close it

#

and use nano

warped narwhal
#

Simple text and config editing is good with vim, but anything more complex and then id rather use an ide.

Which is ironic given that I have an @iusevimbtw.com email

tender river
fast pagoda
#

yeah and then anything that vim is supposed to be good at i'm just in vscode or something thiccer

warped narwhal
#

But vim glueeating

amber fractal
fast pagoda
#

bro pls
plz just
use this keybinding scheme from the 80s boro
it's cool
you cna edit text bro

warped narwhal
#

Vim is just 1 less char to type on my phone

tender river
#

alias vim=nvim

warped narwhal
#

-# (I'm lazy and not good at typing on mobile)

fast pagoda
#

yeah and then i also have in the back of my head
well shit if im gonna learn vi, should learn vim instead.
well shit, should learn neovim instead
well shit, should use helix/whatever those other neoneoULTRANEOvims are instead

tender river
#

i'm learning helix for fun rn

#

like some of its parts and hate other ones

warped narwhal
#

What's the difference between nvim and helix

fast pagoda
#

defaults

tender river
#

helix

  • out of the box experience
  • not very customizable
    nvim
  • just do whatever with it but the core is a bit barebones (no configured lsps/etc)

plus, more importantly, they have completely different keybindings

fast pagoda
#

all of the versions seem to be people using vi, or vim, or neovim, or whatever
and they decide THIS SHIT SUX I CAN MAKE BETTER
and then they make another, similar, more sensible for them version

#

but it's then slightly different than all the others

#

and just as unintuitive

tender river
#

its not supposed to be "intuitive"

#

intuition is something you gain not something you are born with

#

ctrl+z for undo is a completely arbitrary choice

fast pagoda
#

that's faily antithetical to what i would understand to be intelligent interface design lol

#

i mean it's arbitrary but also standard

#

just like vi/vim are

#

so if you know you know

#

but idk i'll take the ones that EVERYTHING uses

#

except vi/vim

tender river
#

linux is unintuitive for windows users

fast pagoda
#

i don't necessarily agree

#

unfamiliar maybe but unintuitive idk

tender river
#

programming is unintuitive for non-programmers

warped narwhal
#

Windows is unintuitive for linux users

tender river
#

theres a concept called "learning"

#

its an activity you can partake in to get familiar with some topics or acquire new skills

fast pagoda
#

i dunno i just think it's a bit goofy to throw out the keybinding schema used in every other possible ecosystem because the one they figured out in the 70s before there was a standard is kool

fleet dust
#

All operating systems suck true power users get the computer to do what they want with raw machine code

tender river
#

keybindings are something you can just relearn

#

it not a big deal

fast pagoda
#

it's like using goldeneye007 n64 controllers and control scheme for a modern fps

fleet dust
#

Imma disagree unlearning keybindings is hell

fast pagoda
#

007's controls were dogshit garbage because nobody had really done a controller scheme that stuck yet

you can learn them but

#

why

tender river
#

not a big deal.

fleet dust
#

Maybe your brain handles it better

tender river
#

you just have to commit

fleet dust
#

I re-bind DaVinci Resolve to have Adobe Premier's keybindings

#

Same when I moved from Photoshop to Affinity

fast pagoda
#

i just fail to see a why for that effort if all im gonna get out of it is essentially a bad IDE & ok text editor

when there's pleeenntttyy of options that don't force you to reconfigure the keybindings youve used for 20 years out of your muscle memory

crystal sleet
#

I use nvim btw

tender river
#

because quick movement through your code is important

#

thats it

#

non-modal editors are horrible at it

crystal sleet
#

mhm

tender river
#

and movement doesnt just include plain movement, it also includes selection, replacing, etc

#

sorry but shift+arrows is just garbage lol

#

first example that convinced me was when i was editing some c code and just deleted a huge block of code with d%

fast pagoda
#

i dunno i can replace stuff p easily with control + arrows and related
i have a mouse for other things and especially i have ctrl f to just go directly to what im thinking about

tender river
#

mouse and ctrl+f are very clunky

#

well, it might not feel that way to you

#

not like you know any better neuroKufufu

fast pagoda
#

what is clunky supposed to mean here

crystal sleet
#

Keep processing mouse position until I move it to where it needs to be
I can move precisely in one swoop with nvim

fast pagoda
#

like i just dont see how it's anything really different, just being used to using it makes it "not clunky"

#

im gonna become a shaman of kakoune just to avoid vim

tender river
#

theres a difference between liking something because its convenient and liking it because thats way you're used to doing it

#

boomer energy

fast pagoda
#

it's definitely my most boomer of computing opinions

tender river
#

i like learning new things

#

might switch to emacs next year

fast pagoda
#

it just doesnt solve a problem that i have so i dont bother
i do like learning new software and such but usually for some actual quantifiable purpose or at least fun

#

which vim is neither to me, ive still never seen anyone do anything with vim that made me go oh shit i gotta use this

crystal sleet
fast pagoda
#

in fact it creates problems as i bumble around deleting shit without even realizing what im doing not that is permanent

tender river
#

but it just feels so much better when you're used to it

#

think 144hz monitors, you can use 60hz after them but it will feel bad

crystal sleet
tender river
#

but realistically its not that important and 60hz works just fine

fast pagoda
#

this was a cool little editor that included an ai that could also edit in the modal editor

tender river
fast pagoda
#

that's impossible

tender river
#

it is though

fast pagoda
#

you will download thunderbird and it will take 30000 years to sync again

tender river
#

emacs exists

crystal sleet
#

Oh, I just played doom with it, didn't know it could edit code

fast pagoda
#

i have a higher regard for emacs than vim for some reason

tender river
#

because its closer to eclipse

crystal sleet
tender river
#

currently i use the combination of notmuch+mbsync+custom mbsync poller&notification daemon+msmtp+alot for email

#

it works alright

fast pagoda
tender river
#

i stopped using their site when they stopped offering the html version

fast pagoda
#

see idk im just a boomer with stuff liek keybindings and what i'm typing to do a function

#

i like learning totally new things and HATE relearning things i already know if there is no obvious benefit besides minor time savings (even tho i know they would add up and likely be good overall)

crystal sleet
worldly panther
#

I don't know WHY
I don't know HOW
but my ai is scaring the shit outta me :C

fast pagoda
#

im sure there are things i could configure with like otp and stuff that would be nice for it but

#

it has learned perfect humanity

fast pagoda
#

it looks extremely overcooked

#

what was your finetuning setup

worldly panther
#

this is just pretraining

fast pagoda
#

oh

worldly panther
#

yeah

fast pagoda
#

how'd you overcook it in pretraining

worldly panther
#

its running off of fineweb-edu

#

idfk

fast pagoda
#

maybe it's the troll version of that set where everything is just replaced with "help" and nothing else

worldly panther
#

my existence serves to stress test every idea humanity creates I guess

worldly panther
#

only just started doing this a couple thousand steps ago :C

fast pagoda
#

mustve been the point where it started forgetting

#

but idk it would be obvious if that's like way too early in the run so you probably figure it is and kept going

worldly panther
#

i guess

worldly panther
fast pagoda
#

time to painfully adjust the lr

fast pagoda
#

i made it up just now

worldly panther
#

lmAO

#

like based on what I'm staring at I could believe it

#

ugh yeah something fucked up
every generation after that one has been the same thing

fast pagoda
#

yeah she done forgot everything except her name and HELP

#

reshuffle dataset and watch it not happen again

worldly panther
#

no the name is just the starting prompt that I feed her

fast pagoda
#

oop

worldly panther
#

wait

fast pagoda
#

all she knows is HELP

worldly panther
#

I think

#

ok I'm betting the learning rate is not supposed to be negative 800k

fast pagoda
#

no that looks a bit strange yeah

#

lmfao

worldly panther
#

aAAAAA

#

ffs

sage crag
#

persona mothman

sage crag
worldly panther
#

ok
lowkey I think ima let it keep going until the next checkpoint
that way I have one version of her screaming for help
and then the version prior when she was fine

#

oh wait you right

fast pagoda
#

well it does appear to be running correctly when i do it so i guess put me on triangleboard for ~63k idk how we determine what score to use

the jump is when i stopped obs recording to see if loading the cpu obviously would cahnge it

#

crisp 2 core use

#

is it normal to get a bunch of 0 results before it gives a real one

#

before i try to investigate that happening

tender river
#

GOOD MORNING 😝
EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT DAY! ✊✊🔥🔥🔥
Rise 'N grind🙏

minor crag
#

im having an argument with gpt oss 20b since it thinks its gpt 4.1 170 something :3

tender river
fast pagoda
#

oss 20b runs like 2x faster than it did on windows for me so i use it on occasion for formatting stuff and i cant imagine arguing with it given how sycophantic it is

tender river
#

i hate that ai models are being tuned for engagement

fast pagoda
#

i like gpt-5's little suggestion thing it does

tender river
#

prompting the user

fast pagoda
#

people seem to hate its personality but i find it gemini-esque and better

crystal sleet
#

I hate gemini's personality

minor crag
#

im talking to it because my only friend is busy and it introduced itself as gpt 4.1, then i corrected it, and it refuses to believe it is oss 20b

fast pagoda
#

gemini's personality works great with my custom prompt that basically turns it into a blunt asshole

#

has the side effect of making me immune to whatever the stupid personality tuning of the week is

#

cuz it's always just kinda a dick

crystal sleet
#

I hate that gemini and gpt 5 both do more than I tell them to
also 5 seems to wander off and do things it wasn't asked to do sometimes

fast pagoda
#

hasnt done that with me but idk what you're using it for

i usually am just giving a ginormous piece of text and extracting or reformatting info from it

#

because im too stupid to use vim

#

so i cant use that

sage crag
worldly panther
#

FOUND THE ISSUE

fast pagoda
#

we got that exponential learning rate

crystal sleet
#

Sometimes doesn't tell me the answer to my question, but asks me if I have the specifications for it first

fast pagoda
#

did u not give it some basic details about u that are used in every interaction
wouldnt work for everything

#

but like gpt knows i am running nobara linux, it knows my pc specs and how i use it, so that way if i have some bullshit on that that i cant figure out so im asking the oracle, it knows those pieces of info already usually

minor crag
#

the ai is bullying me 🙁

fast pagoda
#

skill gapped

crystal sleet
#

It should be able too derive some info, but GPT 5 seems to be too dependant on me providing the derivations too, also wanders off and doesn't answer the prompt sometimes (often)

sage crag
# tender river yes konii go fix it <:cupsama:1109248605577023599>

Ok! Here is the refined version of your code with better error handling:

int main() {
    // ...Your code
    if (ret) {
        // Define "lisp" earlier.
        perror("lisp");
        exit(1);
    }
    // ...Rest of your code
    exit(0);
}

Let me know if you need any additional improvements to your program! Perhaps parser optimisations, such as-

fast pagoda
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ctrl c feels so rude tho

tender river
sage crag
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uncanny

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stop

tender river
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exposure therapy

fast pagoda
tender river
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chatgpt only has one use for me and it is a more convenient google

fast pagoda
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yeah it's the oracle

tender river
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literally cant do anything else

crystal sleet
fast pagoda
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it's pretty good at finding a source that actually helps

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because google isnt good for it anymore somehow

crystal sleet
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Especially when my question hasn't been asked before

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"What's that game with the red pacman thing and computer style things to eat rocks (computer style rocks) falling etc." (Supaplex)

fast pagoda
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for me it's stupid linux shit i havent yet run into and have only managed to either break it more or cba to actually trial and error something like "what is the esoteric syntax for this command" when the -h is like 2 lines

tender river
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man exists

fast pagoda
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and then a lott of text manipulation for extracting info and or organizing it

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yes it does

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but

tender river
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awk sed

fast pagoda
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the packages with a shitty -h

tender river
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awk is actually so good

fast pagoda
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are also the ones with a shitty or non existent man ive found lol

tender river
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i use it whenever i have to do some processing on tabulated data

fast pagoda
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i do love sed

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dont generally mess with structured data itself from cli tho so i havent done too much awk extracting

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but sed is so good with like grep or something, replace a value in a bunch of fiels etc

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and also making a bakup for you while doing it

warped narwhal
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No more having to learn Google speak to get the answer I need

sage crag
fast pagoda
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i never understood having issues with googling things till like 5 years ago and in that time ive either gotten much worse at it or google greatly changed how the results come in

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so it's nice to have the machine oracles now

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which are of course

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100% correct all the time

fast pagoda
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infallible

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and very reliable

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it is actually so alarming every time i ask a query regarding something i actually do know well but need some random thing searched up for etc

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and the amount of just total bullshit

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in the response

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that you just don't realize is there unless you already know

tender river
crystal sleet
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Such neurotic neurons

sage crag
fast pagoda
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surely

sage crag
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i am konii and i am spin

tender river
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spin

sage crag
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nuru

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if you send an invisible character like [​](link) does it only show the embed

fast pagoda
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arent invisible characters automodded anyways

sage crag
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fast pagoda
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huh

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why did i think they were, am i stupid?

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wtf is going on anymore

sage crag
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erm

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it embedded but the link isnt clickable

fast pagoda
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welp

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go get a bug bounty

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are those a thing for discord

sage crag
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no discord is greedy

tender river
fast pagoda
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this triangle thing is still running rn and i just dont think im gonna stop it

sage crag
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hm

crystal sleet