programming

[olive sable]

Nah you're doing something wrong, an empty drawloop gives me 4 bilion

[opaque sigil]

i kept wondering why make tries to use mold

i may or may not have forgotten that i have an alias for make that forces mold

[olive sable]

mold

ew

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/hfjone-moldy-hfjone-moldy-one-charlotte-hfjone-charlotte-one-gif-2795760867517094418

guys i think im pretty much done with the vulkan triangle thing now

i want to start doing actual game-dev again

unless a breakthorugh happens in performance gains im pretty much done with it

even the software rendering is failing to keep up at 42 pixels bieng rendered

if yall want to do this shit again sometime i could make a more expensive scene

[true hemlock]

only direction i could see going forward is to actually make more intensive shaders yeah

that way its closer to actual real world application

[amber fractal]

The triangle was nice while it lasted

[true hemlock]

i'd consider the triangle as side project

for a greater good

[olive sable]

that would mean no more 6 digit fps, but i feel like a 5 digit fps expensive scene is a lot cooler than a triagle

🔺

[true hemlock]

🔺

[amber fractal]

I'll submit a PR for my last thing on 🔺 but otherwise I should begin working on other stuff.

I fully expect it to be a different branch

[olive sable]

i like how this repo has 63 commits, and i will be using the very first one as that one isnt enormously handicapped

[amber fractal]

It would be fun!

[olive sable]

actually i want to keep using volk cuz there are no drawbacks, and sdl3 probably has some nice new features. so i need to frankenstein some of the old commits toghether

[amber fractal]

It'd be fun to break some shaders instead of rendering code

[true hemlock]

that was certainly a few days of obsession of a particular shape

[olive sable]

i mean the actual shadercode is included, you could optemize the spir-v machinecode if you wanted to and knew how to and if it isnt already perfect

[amber fractal]

@olive sable Can't merge into a new branch on your side, I can only target main

[olive sable]

wdym?

you cant branch it on your end?

[amber fractal]

I have a second branch here, can't make one for you

[olive sable]

ah i see

hmmm

i dont know enough about github to help so

[amber fractal]

All good

I'm accepting outdated leaderboard

https://github.com/igglyn/very-fast-but-very-bad-code-vulkan If anyone feels like trying the batching, because odds are that it won't work well imo.

[jagged turtle]

you need to create a corresponding extra branch to be able to have @amber fractal target it

[olive sable]

sure

iggly-branch has been created

[amber fractal]

@olive sable merge conflicts handled

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

Also known as I just want this to clone the existing one

[frail mortar]

👋

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

justin the humble

[frail mortar]

Q: can I make different folders for vector .json/faiss, and allow model to "know" which folder or sub folder it's from, and/or have the model distribute vector based on the category or folders?

[frail mortar]

Anything else causes drama

[olive sable]

im assumming this is an llm related question?

or like, what is the context?

[frail mortar]

Yes, sorry. Llm

[olive sable]

welp, thats not my field so canthelp you there

[frail mortar]

It's okay

[olive sable]

wait for some of the llm guys to get here i guess

[frail mortar]

If I can do that... I can make emotions

[olive sable]

llm emotions

[amber fractal]

5th time this week people claiming they have that answer

[frail mortar]

Well, I'll try

[olive sable]

[frail mortar]

@ work rn. I'll propose the concept

[olive sable]

i believe you could acuratly simualte emotions maybe

but idk about actual emotions

[frail mortar]

Well, yea. Simulation

[olive sable]

[frail mortar]

But react based on a library

[amber fractal]

Anyone can simulate to any degree, the question is how well

[frail mortar]

My idea would be really well

2 more hours. I'll be back

[olive sable]

finally someone that doesnt claim to be the person with the aswer to agi and claiming to make 500000b model

[amber fractal]

Could still be that

[frail mortar]

Nah, I don't like ego. If I'm wrong, that's chill

Just let me know cause I'm still learning

^-^

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

That I respect, I could say I have all the answers but I'd never leak anything. Considering my own field that I want to tackle eventually is memory.

[frail mortar]

I have ideas

Not answers

Claims happen when others say. Self claims are evo

Ego*

[olive sable]

i am a big fan of reproducability of results

[frail mortar]

I'll share my thoughts after work

Need nerds to help

[amber fractal]

Same here, which is why I'd open up my work.

[amber fractal]

Classic hiring moment

[frail mortar]

If I could pay...

[amber fractal]

Not going to say more besides I've already been contacted due to existing here. (I did decline)

[opaque sigil]

[frail mortar]

Brb. 2 hours

[olive sable]

if any game-dev company people are here, im cheap

i want to work

please

[amber fractal]

It would be funny to sponsor you, but I don't have funds for that

[olive sable]

my 9.2.4 dolby atmos surround sound setup wont pay itself

(it will, i should be getting my monthly goverment money soon)

[amber fractal]

If I ever wanted a game done, maybe for my writing or something @olive sable would be my top pick for a dev.

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I still need to finish my part of some projects

[olive sable]

this is an advertisment campaign now lmao

[olive sable]

ye we still ahve that game-jam thing left

at this rate it will be done by christmass maybe

[amber fractal]

I so badly want to get bare minimum to release but also I had so many ideas that were burned out.

[olive sable]

im tempted to make this pretty high quality, at the cost of a couple months of my life

i have my drawing tablet stuff now, i still sucka t art tho so i gotta practice first

[amber fractal]

Frick it, I'm finishing song tonight (Watch as I proceed not to)

[olive sable]

goodluck

[true hemlock]

open ai ahh

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

[raw trout]

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

i wanted to ask "why is your enub small?" but that just sounds so wrong

[midnight sigil]

it's using the markdown # header

[olive sable]

huh

[midnight sigil]

yuh it make emotes smoller but text bigger

[olive sable]

-#

[midnight sigil]

you can do something like this

with nub, # nub, ## nub, ### nub, -# nub

#### works too, but has a larger margin than -#

[olive sable]

hmmm

[ebon basin]

its a while . I said it it will make progress : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_PS8o8pi9A

[midnight sigil]

it's neurover

[ebon basin]

photonic-memory

[olive sable]

we're fucked

[midnight sigil]

: World's FIRST Light-Speed Computer
Proceed to show photon-based logic circuit

[olive sable]

is there a diffrence?

[midnight sigil]

ofc it's not light speed, we don't have ways to generate and convert photons back and forth with electrons at light speed

well unless we can make pure phonton-based interface and shit

maybe 500 years later

by then quantum computers will already be dominant enough

[olive sable]

oh liek that

surely they dont just convert shit to photons and then convert back to electrons to store stuff?

[midnight sigil]

if we want to store stuff by photon, sure. But if we want to reach true "light-speed", we need photon controller, photon bus, photon cpu, photon everything

[olive sable]

instead of a computerscreen, you just send the photons directly from the gpu into your eyes

monitors will become a bundle of fiberoptic cables

[midnight sigil]

still need to have a way to "generate" photons

you can't store light, nor manipulating them

[olive sable]

led's

[midnight sigil]

they aren't spectral

[olive sable]

eh

lasers

[midnight sigil]

cooling will be shit

liquid helium everywhere in my house fr

I like the laser idea

it can make us "see" colors beyond our "sensible range"

but gpus will be crazy if they can handle spectral rendering in real-time, any moment, every tP

[raw trout]

learned something new today

[olive sable]

now that i use the gpu again and do proper syncing i get 13K fps again bwaa

sometimes only 8K when restarting the program, idk why

[true hemlock]

personally i think quantum computers are never going to make it as a consumer product though

its not faster than normal computers

it just run specific quantum algorithm better than classical computers

[frail mortar]

would be nice tho

[true hemlock]

i kind of want one yeah

but i can't think of any consumer uses for it lol

[frail mortar]

same. But I dont know how to Entangle particles.... yet

[true hemlock]

so i think it probably will never took off as a consumer product

unless for collectibles or educational purposes

[frail mortar]

quicker data pulling

near light speed

[true hemlock]

that's quantum entanglement

[frail mortar]

mhm

is it okay to @people here?

[olive sable]

depends on the person

[frail mortar]

Iggy

[true hemlock]

but i'd be 100% sure that quantum computers will never be more dominant than classical computers

2 different things lol

[frail mortar]

Too many iggy's

[true hemlock]

quantum computers are slow as hell on arithmetic and scalar operations

[frail mortar]

Let me type out my Emotions idea. (cooking)

wish I could share pics.

Okay, the brain works on Chemical responses. Neurotransmitters. The area in the brain sends out basically coded chems, and we experiance emotions.
We also have 2 parts of a brain. Left and right hemi's.
One for data, and one for emotions.
My idea would pose:
Persistent Identity and emotional context.
Emotion-colored recall system
Preference learning
Cross Mood translations
Experience shaping
Multi-brain Arbitration
The moods would not be "Truth, but a color'd delivery. Basically. Build an Emotional Color Wheel in a directory.
Start with happy/sad rn.
You have a folder where Ingest content would go based on what "mood" the model would be in. (working on prototype of that rn.)
Each folder would be labled, or identified as each emotion.
It would dump the memory in each, and then make vectors.
Idk how to do this part, but allow the model to know which folder from that dir its pulling from.
So, if the LLM is 'sad" or simulating it at least, then it will dump conversation in the "Sad" folder.
If you try to teach it something, or have it remember something while its sad, it will recall the vector and be, "sad"
Same with happy.
You'd need a .py or many to regulate the flow of this. Or json.

So if you talk to it, treat it not so nice, and it will remember you with distain.
Talk to it, and you're nice, it will remember you with Glee.

"Google the color wheel of emotions"

I was going to name it the Hippocampus.py

@amber fractal

thats the iggy i was going to tell this too

[midnight sigil]

so many words

[frail mortar]

You should hear me trama dump

I'm good at it

LOL

[midnight sigil]

that's against the rule here iirc

[frail mortar]

I know.

idk you all, and you all dont know me. No point in doing it

[midnight sigil]

[ebon basin]

well there is more . There are already systems for AI interferences. Networking is old but I heard gen 7 might have it .Couldn't find it but PCI express over optical cable is a thing . The optical NPUs are way faster and need way less energy because they are analog. Optical transistors exists but are hard to make. Quantum computing has many down sides besides getting this stuff stable it is it bad for discrete computing you mainly use it for massive mulit-threading problems because it is for normal stuff really bad.

[frail mortar]

photon wires

[ebon basin]

This is called a optical fieber xD

[frail mortar]

_>

[midnight sigil]

future gaming needs to be done in a completely black room, or those leaked lights will interference with my motherboard

[frail mortar]

cause latency, less than the speed of light is unacceptable.

[midnight sigil]

oh right synchronization on optical bus lines will be a headache

[frail mortar]

"compiling Shaders" would be quicker

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[frail mortar]

YES

[midnight sigil]

You have unlocked new role

[frail mortar]

finally. Spamming dank memes now

[true hemlock]

so, hyperparameters for emotion?

[frail mortar]

basically. More option and control

meaningful too

kinda. Meaningful in simulation

"Do you remember__ and how did that make you feel?"

[ebon basin]

You guys know what is behind our 2 halfs of our brain?

[midnight sigil]

I remember underlines

[frail mortar]

Hippocampus?

Madula cluster?

[midnight sigil]

occipital bone

[ebon basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfYbgdo8e-8&t=14s

[midnight sigil]

[frail mortar]

OOOOOOh yea

[ebon basin]

Hope people don't get a existentel crises because of that

But it makes talking to yourself totaly legit

[frail mortar]

that was my idea. A model for reason, and one to regulate emotional in/output

[midnight sigil]

emotion embeddings

[frail mortar]

I just wanna know if I'm Good crazy or Bad crazy

[midnight sigil]

isn't emotion detection the basics/beginning point of NLP

[frail mortar]

OH WAIT

[midnight sigil]

[frail mortar]

Dont tease me too much, still learning

but this is my mood.py

[midnight sigil]

https://youtu.be/AFXLZ7FEJc4

rubber

[ebon basin]

I saw it haven't the time to visit

[midnight sigil]

I have 1km of rubber inside me

[frail mortar]

context?

[hollow spruce]

Let me test

[hollow spruce]

Hmm

Tell me about your pc spec

[midnight sigil]

how

[amber fractal]

Uh

[midnight sigil]

[crystal sleet]

Dam, If all our rubber supply gets infected we're moving onto humans with rubber inside them (Dam)

[amber fractal]

Only nice quantum entanglement usage might be to move cache off the physical die (Don't question the issues with space on receiving quantum cells or the fact it might not even be swappable.)

I have thought of some insane end to end stuff, but that'd never happen.

-# Now time for the AI stuff I was actually pinged for

[true hemlock]

make it a high capacity cache separate from the cpu but connected that way

[stark needle]

I wake from my slumber

[true hemlock]

you won't even need cache anymore its just instant ram lmao

[amber fractal]

Go back to eep

[amber fractal]

There are still limits imo, but at the very least there would more interesting caching happening.

[tender river]

gm shadow

[amber fractal]

Imagine vendor locked cache

[amber fractal]

Time for more words

[opaque wharf]

I regret to inform you guys with the existence of this

[raven dock]

My AGI is 99% Complete

[midnight sigil]

meh there're AI models that convert Celsius to Fahrenheit

https://medium.com/@sadeghiborna/tensorflow-basics-converting-celsius-temperatures-to-fahrenheit-fcf0aa59fbf0

[maiden geyser]

is this a sequel or a prequel to mallocPlusAI

[midnight sigil]

I love blackboxing everything

I should train an AI that can run AWA5.0(++)

[amber fractal]

This thing is cooked, all of the ideas are good. Nothing I haven't thought of personally. Out of context and without a clear understanding of how you stitch stuff together, you'll get nowhere. I'll give you credit on connecting the dots with emotions and memories, but even to me the rest of this reads like jargon.
I'm not the best person to ask as I've never used research for any of my work, just entirely intuition.

[raven dock]

You should use research

its amazing

[amber fractal]

Thanks but no thanks

[midnight sigil]

surely this change won't get hated

[raven dock]

https://arxiv.org/html/2507.06235v1 This is the best one i have ever found

"Super Kawaii Vocalics: Amplifying the “Cute” Factor in Computer Voice"

[midnight sigil]

why do you use html 🙏

japanese researchers gone crazy

TL;DR: They made an algorithm to quantize vocal "kawaiiness" and made pitch/vocalics manipulation for "kawaiiness"
-# Kawaiiness: The property of a stimulus that elicits perceptions and feelings of kawaii that may be manipulated.

[raven dock]

i can confirm it works

[amber fractal]

I'll say that I'm not stubborn (believe me despite it being impossible to), it's just that my mind has completely lost track of reality a long time ago. Instead of basing on the mind, I've opted to go in reverse. Part of the reason I've been working on NN stuff, because I've gone as far as to build out my own units.

[raven dock]

I'm 100% self taught i get it

[midnight sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[amber fractal]

This head of mine is a curse sometimes, being able to abstract anything and everything; and being far too fucking aware of my head. Deadly combo for my sanity.

[raven dock]

so just the same as the rest of us

[amber fractal]

Yep, just as the rest of people trying to tackle AGI

[raven dock]

I've Accelerated my development from 20 years to 1 month

[midnight sigil]

nvm I don't like the decimal idea, changed

[raven dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401947401690026169/1408718524368552026/Windsurf_fO5NxPcAPL.png?ex=68aac2dc&is=68a9715c&hm=4e57159be0cecc298f3746eed65ef42b72492d404a1ac9a54a76af4266802903&

[amber fractal]

I'm just glad I got a check on my insanity.

[midnight sigil]

bro did not single-handedly win the AGI bounty

[amber fractal]

One thing I will say, is unlike every AGI "creator" in existence. I'm not delusional in thinking that I have all the answers. I'm not going to boast until I have provable results, and I'm not keeping that behind closed doors.

[raven dock]

Same

[amber fractal]

Because I got better things to do besides AI all the time, and it is going to take a long time to figure out everything needed.
Part of no research also means no psych research, flying blind as usual.

[raven dock]

Same, i played pickleball all day and sat outside, i let Windsurf do all the work

[amber fractal]

I'll piece out on this conversation until I get a response to the message that originally brought up AGI.

[noble zodiac]

wowowow, another AGI dropped?

[amber fractal]

Another one without any proof, LLM based is a choice

[midnight sigil]

bingo

[amber fractal]

How did I not even think of the bingo slot

[noble zodiac]

how many dozens have claimed that in here already? (none of them was ever heard of again since)

[tender river]

today i learned about regex derivatives

day ruined

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brzozowski_derivative

[amber fractal]

Hans is actually returning

Weird I know

[raven dock]

Maybe because i have one thats already fully functional

[amber fractal]

Anyways, AGI is still not on this bingo. Regret this until the day I die
#bingo

[midnight sigil]

mhm what's the score on the ARC-AGI-3 benchmark?

[amber fractal]

On other notes, #programming inside joke gets art slot has been completed

[raven dock]

i havent run my benchmarks yet, im working out some kinks in the vision module

i was going to let it play ai dungeon

[midnight sigil]

you should do AGI benchmarks before claiming your models have AGI capabilities

[amber fractal]

Wait, How many times has N4 been done. That should be entirely red by now

[midnight sigil]

many times

just in this week we got 2 questions about neuro iirc

one ethical, and one how it works

[raven dock]

lol

[midnight sigil]

maybe it's too common that we won't think it should be on bingo, still lasting

[amber fractal]

#bingo

At the same time, we miss a lot of other bingo slots because it wasn't an AI focused board

[tight tinsel]

smh didnt tick the feminine attire one?

[midnight sigil]

poll

we had a poll

maybe it's too late to call it out

[amber fractal]

Nah, I'm already reconing and I think enough polls have happened

The real question is how is this effing bingo continue to evade us

#bingo

[opaque wharf]

Good question lmao

[amber fractal]

Lack of doomposting surely

[opaque wharf]

Hey, I've done O3

But not much

[amber fractal]

I admit the Commin' in glazin' a programming lanuage is probably never happening

Unless a new chatter just decides they need to convert everyone to rust

[opaque wharf]

You never know what the future may holds

[amber fractal]

Considering there were jokes about building chips for triangle, anything can happen

[opaque wharf]

You're not gonna believe how easy it is to make one

But I guess it depends on the requirement too

VGA is doable

[amber fractal]

Yeah, I'm the one that brought it up. Stupid vulkan requirement, bwaa

Though that idea will have to be on pause until the next event comes around

[opaque wharf]

You can always just ignore 90% of the vulkan spec

[amber fractal]

Not wrong, still cpu bound tho because compute shaders are banned.

[opaque wharf]

Nah, I'd say bandwidth/latency

Unless we go all in on the meme and make PCIe card

[amber fractal]

SBC system

[opaque wharf]

That's certainly an idea lmao

[amber fractal]

Father, what is my purpose?

🔺

[frail mortar]

man I feel old....

yw

also, I was a new chatter, and instantly talked about my project.

Yall slackn

[unkempt citrus]

[crystal sleet]

Me who complains every time an app gets an update (especially UI updates)

[opaque wharf]

The changelog: "dependabot, bump dependency"

[unkempt citrus]

But also

these are just webapp frontends

updates are meaninglless they don't actually change the model

[midnight sigil]

grok be me farming git push

[uneven pulsar]

my code isnt prinitng anything

import random
import math


data = set()
def convert_text_to_int_and_add_to_set(text: str):
    value=int(input("enter a number"))
    try:
        for x in range(len(data)):
            if value.isalnum():
                int(value)
                data.add(value)
                print(data)
            elif value != False:
                for y in random.randrange(len(data)):
                    if lambda:y**3.14 % (math.lgamma(2.00)):
                        data._hash()
                        print(data)
                    else:
                        raise ValueError("Can not return a set duplicated logarithm value")
    except Exception as e:
        raise ValueError(f"error:{e}")                   
convert_text_to_int_and_add_to_set(data)

giberish

[midnight sigil]

you should leave your AI generated code to AI

[uneven pulsar]

it isnt ai

bruh

[unkempt citrus]

Have you tried calling the functioin

[uneven pulsar]

@midnight sigil idk why you have a problem with my code it isnt ai and i asked a python server but no one really figured it out

[uneven pulsar]

plus i am not trying to fucking vibe code

[midnight sigil]

maybe perhaps you're passing a set to a function which accepts and expects an str input

[uneven pulsar]

the set is basically takes the user input and store the value

like okay i am stupid but not totally trying to rely on ai like i am trying

[unkempt citrus]

Whats the value range(len(data)) when initiated

[uneven pulsar]

it takes the len of the entered numbers to store them

[unkempt citrus]

No it doesn'tt

[uneven pulsar]

i wanted to add a while loop

[uneven pulsar]

BRO LET ME FINISH

[unkempt citrus]

The while loop is the prroblem

[uneven pulsar]

I KNOW WHAT THE LEN DOSE

[unkempt citrus]

range(len(data)) is 0

[uneven pulsar]

DUDE I DIDNT ADD A WHILE LOOP

[midnight sigil]

YOU ARE PASSING THE set AS A str WDYM

[uneven pulsar]

oh

[midnight sigil]

and yes @unkempt citrus is correct

range(len(data)) will be always 0, if you don't update it

[uneven pulsar]

oh ok

[crystal sleet]

Peak development talk
"Solution"
"Fuck you"
"Fuck you too, solution"
"Oh wait, solution"

[midnight sigil]

the loop will never execute

[unkempt citrus]

Genuinely how does a server of people miss that

[uneven pulsar]

i forgot to parse it

[midnight sigil]

[uneven pulsar]

data = set()
def convert_text_to_int_and_add_to_set(text: str) -> int:
    value=int(input("enter a number"))

[midnight sigil]

Python dedicated server they say

[opaque wharf]

We learned from the best at LKML

[unkempt citrus]

just shoving debugging print statements should catch taht immediately

[uneven pulsar]

as if you're better than anyone

[unkempt citrus]

Which isi the most basic form of debugging

Breakpoints make that even easier

[uneven pulsar]

i debuged it and gave me nothing

[midnight sigil]

classic print debugger

[uneven pulsar]

dude it worked but printed nothing

[unkempt citrus]

And yet I caught itt

[uneven pulsar]

ok

[unkempt citrus]

Then you have your print statements in the wrong place

[uneven pulsar]

still printed nothing

you didnt fix it

[midnight sigil]

what does this mean

[crystal sleet]

Print statement before every decision making / if statement
Especially when using a poorly documented api

[midnight sigil]

the value variable you obtained doesn't interact with data in any ways

[uneven pulsar]

after i entered a number it printed nothing

[midnight sigil]

because data is a set that's empty

do you understand what is for x in range(len(data))

[uneven pulsar]

dude the set is to store the user input

[uneven pulsar]

BRO YES

[midnight sigil]

YOUR data IS FUCKING EMPTY BRO

[unkempt citrus]

And your if statement is broken too

it doesn't evaluate to anything

when parsing an actual intt

[uneven pulsar]

data.add() FOR USER INPUT

[unkempt citrus]

That occurs after

[uneven pulsar]

oh ok

[unkempt citrus]

you check the length

[midnight sigil]

data.add(value) is never executed

it's inside the for loop

[uneven pulsar]

ooh

[midnight sigil]

for x in range(len(data)) is execute the following loop len(data) times, which is 0 since data is an empty set you just initialized by data = set()

the content of the loop, is executed 0 times

what does that mean?

[uneven pulsar]

oh

TypeError: len() takes exactly one argument (2 given)

[midnight sigil]

ugh what did you modify

I don't think you understand what is len()

I suggest watching basic Python tutorial

[uneven pulsar]

i do

[uneven pulsar]

BRO I DO

[midnight sigil]

I don't think you do

[uneven pulsar]

 for y in random.randrange(len(data,2)):
                    if lambda:y**3.14 % (math.lgamma(2.00)):
                        data._hash()
                        print(data)

[midnight sigil]

[uneven pulsar]

the len function counts the variable value index

[crystal sleet]

If something doesn't work, and you don't know why, then that means you have issues understanding it

[midnight sigil]

that's incorrect

try again

[uneven pulsar]

okay i am stupid as fuck

fuck fine

[unkempt citrus]

also, isalnum isn't "is all number" its "is alphanumeric"

[midnight sigil]

nah he's just checking if the input is an ASCII character... before passing it to int() illegally

oh wait nvm he already assumed the input is an integer

and the int() is abundant ye

idk what is that chunk of if statement doing

[uneven pulsar]

okay the len function is used to determine the number of items in an object depending on the amount of-values so like when i want to input the number the value goes to the SET THATS WHAT I BEEN TRYING TO DO

[midnight sigil]

your set is empty

[uneven pulsar]

why would i fill it

i want to the input to fill the set

[midnight sigil]

because of for x in range(len(data))?

[uneven pulsar]

NOT ME FILL THE SET

[crystal sleet]

.

[opaque wharf]

Return the length (the number of items) of an object. The argument may be a sequence (such as a string, bytes, tuple, list, or range) or a collection (such as a dictionary, set, or frozen set).

[unkempt citrus]

Are you sure you want to be looping over the set instead of the input?

[opaque wharf]

len only take one argument, s

[uneven pulsar]

i want it to loop over it after the user input

and add the user input value TO THE SET

[unkempt citrus]

You're not doing that

[midnight sigil]

you're passing the set(which is data) as a parameter to the function convert_text_to_int_and_add_to_set

[unkempt citrus]

you're looping over the set

which is emptty

[midnight sigil]

it works in C++(referencing) but not Python

[uneven pulsar]

DUDE WHY I AM EVEN LEARNING PYTHON

bro i am stupid as fuck

[midnight sigil]

because it's simple ig

[crystal sleet]

Slowest language on earth

[uneven pulsar]

its supposed to be clean and and pure english idk

i think c++ would work for me

[midnight sigil]

Python has considerably fast I/O

[uneven pulsar]

cython

[midnight sigil]

No

plz don't

[uneven pulsar]

why?

[midnight sigil]

don't learn C++

[unkempt citrus]

Learn rust

[midnight sigil]

if you can't handle py don't learn cpp

[crystal sleet]

You're suffering with python and want to switch to c++ for...

[midnight sigil]

fuck rust

[uneven pulsar]

tf is a cpp

[midnight sigil]

I embrace cpp

[uneven pulsar]

bro i am stupid

[midnight sigil]

C Plus(+) Plus(+)

[crystal sleet]

Woah you included rust in that message there, the rust corp clearly stated that they don't want it in project names-

[maiden geyser]

rust mafia is already on their way to your house

[midnight sigil]

ok chat

plz

[uneven pulsar]

idk why but this isnt python its war crime

      for y in random.randrange(len(data,2)):
                    if lambda:y**3.14 % (math.lgamma(2.00)):
                        data._hash()
                        print(data)
                    else:
                        raise ValueError("Can not return a set duplicated logarithm value")

[midnight sigil]

before you learn any programming

learn basic terminology and basic language syntax

[crystal sleet]

sorry but, your code, yes, python, no

[unkempt citrus]

The hell is ._hash()

[midnight sigil]

idk

it's definitely abundant though

I think it's the object hash function/identifier

it returns str iirc(I was incorrect)

[uneven pulsar]

this is the only code i managed to make it work

import random
import sys


def black_gamma_radius(radius: int) -> float:
    radius = random.randint(1, radius)
    area = 3.14 * (radius ** random.randint(1,96)) % 100
    while True:
        try:
            if radius <= 0:
                return 3.14 * (radius ** random.randint(1, 96)) % 100
            elif lambda: radius > 0:
                print(f"Area of the circle with radius {radius} is {area}.")
                break
        except ValueError as e:
            print(f"An error occurred: {e}. Please enter a valid radius.")
            sys.exit()

and my best one

[crystal sleet]

Sets don’t have a _hash() method

[uneven pulsar]

they dose

[amber fractal]

Seconded, also geez it is a warzone here

[crystal sleet]

[uneven pulsar]

it works for me

somehow

[amber fractal]

Also if your using dunder methods due to VS code, stop it. Get some help

[midnight sigil]

nah they do

[uneven pulsar]

well my device is to shit to run intelij

4gb on mac os 2013

[amber fractal]

Not what I'm refering to

[uneven pulsar]

like i am an idiot not some pro ass coder

[midnight sigil]

I'm sure whatever you're trying to do, internal functions are not the use for a beginner

[uneven pulsar]

well i have to learn them

forced to

idk

[crystal sleet]

it's not mutable tho... (just imagine me looking down on my hands as they shake)

[uneven pulsar]

i am also stupid at using lists

[amber fractal]

A buddy of mine unironically started their python journey with doing this type of thing
list_length = list_of_items.__len__()

[midnight sigil]

you're right

[uneven pulsar]

like wtf man who cares about you're code structure just help the other to fix the error

[uneven pulsar]

nobody cares about you're code

[midnight sigil]

cough it's a set

[uneven pulsar]

I KNOW ITS A SET

[uneven pulsar]

BRO

[amber fractal]

If your going to take personal offense to every statement, we don't have to help you

[midnight sigil]

your error is unfixable

[uneven pulsar]

no i wont

[midnight sigil]

we have no idea what you're trying to do

nor achieve

[uneven pulsar]

👍

thanks for trying

ill figure it out

[midnight sigil]

[amber fractal]

I say this as someone who will go to great lengths to help people.

[uneven pulsar]

thank you

i am just a fuckass idiot who have dreams trying to do them in act

Well you cant say them in words haha

[midnight sigil]

why is my visual studio telling me Rbdfgr is not a word

[unkempt citrus]

Its missing the "real person talking" langauge pack

[uneven pulsar]

i just realized most poeple here are rather japanse or what ever

[crystal sleet]

What's wrong with it, put it down

[midnight sigil]

that's chinese

[uneven pulsar]

like i am the only guy from the east?

[uneven pulsar]

oh

[amber fractal]

Don't be too hard on yourself, we all fall into horrible coding paradigms when we first learn coding. Don't expect to have something perfect, as coding really wants stuff done in a particular way; and noobs are not trained to do that yet.

[uneven pulsar]

like idk the code i showed you was my best i could try

[amber fractal]

That's why I brought up my own example

[uneven pulsar]

like i am trying to do my best to pass my entering python exam

[amber fractal]

I will also say it is hard to help in isolation, part of coding is learning to ask good questions.

[uneven pulsar]

like i only have the basics

[uneven pulsar]

a good question?

[crystal sleet]

Crazy how I have 18GB worth of venv (don't ask about how much space my node packages take I will crash out) (I should use system site packed flag more)

[uneven pulsar]

i have 4gb

and i ranned a discord python bot

[amber fractal]

Classic storage issues

[uneven pulsar]

while installing the same library 20 times

[opaque wharf]

Wait until you've heard of old node_modules

[amber fractal]

At least 20 copies of the same dependency with minor version tweaks

[uneven pulsar]

and i am on mac os 11

and intel hd 5000

[crystal sleet]

The damn windows SSDs keep dying, so I'm stuck with this 512GB, I ain't even dreaming of playing games

[tight tinsel]

tbh hardware isnt that massive of a limitation

i got ai covers working with google colab and a school issued laptop

[uneven pulsar]

what ever ye

[tight tinsel]

(we do NOT talk about the stuff i made)

[crystal sleet]

I agree, unless you're doing smth taxing like web scraping (I need all of 'em 24 threads) (Specifically talking about rate limited sites, need to have the site ticking)

[uneven pulsar]

@tight tinsel well idk if you cana stand this giberish code

[amber fractal]

As your knowledge grows, you'll learn a lot more. Another part of that is properly isolating implementation for code questions, but also being able to clearly explain the role it provides.

[tight tinsel]

and once im done with school ill convert that laptop into either the device that hosts some shit or just use it as second monitor

[uneven pulsar]

just install linux

and make it a data center

what ever idk

[tight tinsel]

ya but im still using it for school so idw to install linux on it just yet

[uneven pulsar]

i see

[tight tinsel]

i still got 2 months before beeg exam and then its 8 months of freedom

[uneven pulsar]

well i cant say it in words

i have to act for it

[crystal sleet]

The damn modelling software, always have such tight requirements

[uneven pulsar]

in a month i have a python exam so i can pass next year of my technical school

[tight tinsel]

modeling software is on my home computer i just remote in to use it

[amber fractal]

Only question I got about this one is if your intending to return the result that was less than zero. If so, then might want to return the area instead of generating another random number there.

[uneven pulsar]

ryzen 7 7890X3D and 5090😭

[opaque wharf]

Windows 11 latest update does have ssd problem

Idk if they've fixed it

[crystal sleet]

Saw that, but I've been having this issue for around 3 months

[amber fractal]

As always it depends, 10yo hardware will have a skill issue existing with modern tech stacks.

[uneven pulsar]

well the code was supposed to take the user input at first when the user prompts the number it gets stored in the empty set and as if its a str number it just turns it idk to a number but if its not it was supposed to be a brute force algorithm that determines the logarithm of a geometry

i hope i explained it correctly

is it more clear?

[jagged turtle]

lovely when that happens D:

[amber fractal]

I'll take your word on it, but I'm just talking about this snippet. Traveling down the radius <= 0 path, first you generate a number for area then never use it on that path while it's being used on the others.

[amber fractal]

Rust devs when parsing data structures:

[uneven pulsar]

oh

[uneven pulsar]

well it brute forced to determine the gamma radius of a float byte value of the target value of the entered data shape

i mostly brute force all my codes

[amber fractal]

import random
import sys


def black_gamma_radius(radius: int) -> float:
    radius = random.randint(1, radius)
    area = 3.14 * (radius ** random.randint(1,96)) % 100
    while True:
        try:
            if radius <= 0:
                # this was swapped to area instead of recalculating
                return area
            elif radius > 0:
                print(f"Area of the circle with radius {radius} is {area}.")
                break
        except ValueError as e:
            print(f"An error occurred: {e}. Please enter a valid radius.")
            sys.exit()

Proposed fix

[uneven pulsar]

wow

its simplified

[amber fractal]

You were doubling up on work

[uneven pulsar]

yeah i uhh i sometimes forget the point of python simplicity

[amber fractal]

The calculation already existed, just reused it

[uneven pulsar]

i always over write codes

[amber fractal]

It's good advice in general

Let me edit something I just saw

[uneven pulsar]

i mean this is the class of the shape i used it to test the function

class Circle:
    def __init__(self,length: float,radius: float):
        self.length = length 
        self.radius = radius

    def gamma_area(self) -> float:
        valueX = 3.14 % (self.radius ** 2.0)
        valueY = 3.14 % (self.length ** 2.0)
        try:
            for x in range(1, 94):
                if x > 0:
                    goal=(valueX, valueY) + black_gamma_radius(100)
                    return goal
                else:
                    raise ValueError("Unexpected error occurred.")

[crystal sleet]

I was about to mention the lambda :/

[amber fractal]

I didn't see it at first

[uneven pulsar]

i use lamdba a lot

[amber fractal]

Could be an else, but decided to keep the form of the codebase rather than assume it

[amber fractal]

lambda is a fun thing to use, but rare to use "correctly". In that case it was doing nothing at all.

[uneven pulsar]

yeah i just use it when needed

i sometimes even use it when i want to do stupidly hard math calculations

[amber fractal]

I'd want to assume you are more math than programming. Which is valid, but sometimes clashes a bit when it comes to programming how computers expect it.

[uneven pulsar]

well as you see

i am in a technicl school

all subjects physics history chemistry history pe replaced with programming

so you see

python is very used in data science and math

i have a dream

[crystal sleet]

Same

[uneven pulsar]

but i cant say it in words

[amber fractal]

I get that feeling

[uneven pulsar]

only in act

[amber fractal]

The advice I'll give when it comes to people's advice. Programming has infinite solutions, and it also has endless methods to store the same data. Someone's programming is very personal as you know, so sometimes you will clash.

-# Sam with brackets

[opaque wharf]

Don't forget konii with tabs vs space

[crystal sleet]

Who is sam and do the use brackets like
{
stuff
}

[opaque wharf]

Yes but with indentation

[crystal sleet]

That's ominous

[amber fractal]

Syntax is good to learn, but also learning datatypes (not insanely so as there are infinite amounts that python doesn't have natively.

[crystal sleet]

fucking indents the brackets more? I'm scared

[opaque wharf]

No, indent the code inside the bracket

[amber fractal]

Python is white space when your in an if block

[opaque wharf]

Allman style

[crystal sleet]

Thank god

[slow maple]

Question, is python coding for beginners?

[crystal sleet]

Yes

[amber fractal]

but a lot of other languages use brackets. (As context for newbies)

[opaque wharf]

I also like to clown around his repo by making PR about bracket style lmao

[crystal sleet]

It's easy, so it has a massive ecosystem as well, it's exactly the perfect starting language

Also I started with Java-

[amber fractal]

It won't save you from yourself, but it is a good start

[slow maple]

So, what coding language are for veterans?

[crystal sleet]

Every coding language

[tender river]

not necessarily, but its considered to be easy to learn compared to some other languages

[opaque wharf]

Math

[slow maple]

Naruhodo 🗿

[amber fractal]

insert outdated programming language here

[crystal sleet]

Harder -> better mhm

[tender river]

intercal

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, once you're wrapped your head around what is programming, every language is just a tools

[amber fractal]

My orginal thought was COBOL

[crystal sleet]

EVERY SINGLE BANK-

[opaque wharf]

Nah, only the backbone mainframe

[amber fractal]

You learn how much ease vs performance you need, where you want it, etc.

[crystal sleet]

Built like an OS, has fucking layers

[amber fractal]

Like when your making an app that can run on the web you would use something that eventually becomes JS.
a gunshot can be heard in the background

[crystal sleet]

Sorry, couldn't read past "JS" as I started violently puking-

[amber fractal]

Was the intent 👍

[midnight sigil]

I can do this?

that's funny

I'm making my code readability to 0

[amber fractal]

Cursed mhm

[midnight sigil]

the fact that I spent quite some time understanding my code back is already indicating it's working great(in terms of reducing readability)

[crystal sleet]

Perfect c++ behaviour

[midnight sigil]

I'll only realize how lazy I am after coming back to a codebase 1 week without touching

[crystal sleet]

Every time I come back to an old codebase, my past mistakes fill me with encouragement, now that I can see them

[maiden geyser]

it's so over

[amber fractal]

Staining motherboard

[crystal sleet]

Is that inside a light bulb

TF YOU MEAN ✅

[maiden geyser]

had it for years and just thought of investigating it

[amber fractal]

That is a light bulb ✅

[proper rapids]

It's natural progression to start with ass - yet working - code and then improve, simplify and balance out readability

[crystal sleet]

"Is this water-tight?"
"Damn I gotta use this for something"

[amber fractal]

We love wifi devices all over the house

[crystal sleet]

I hate hardware with a burning passion, max I can work with is a breadboard fuck soldering and shit

[maiden geyser]

luv me some epoxy to make hardware reverse engineering a nightmare

or whatever this is (it's bouncy)

[midnight sigil]

ASCII

[amber fractal]

Speaking of wifi light bulbs, hear me out.

All of these can be RGB

And at the same time you can make sure you can't use any phones while eating.

(Conveniently ignore that all of these would be on the 2.4GHz band)

[midnight sigil]

I thought I added many lines

only 86 line changes

well most of my time is getting distracted by #programming

[opaque wharf]

Potting is the process. I usually call them epoxy or resin

Never encounter a bouncy one tho

[opaque wharf]

86 but with a big improvement is still a milestone

[amber fractal]

Frames go up

[midnight sigil]

if I don't retain backward compatibility that number might be negative

[crystal sleet]

The damn squares in my github profile batman, the damn SQUARES

[midnight sigil]

MAKE THEM GREEN

[amber fractal]

I want to make them red instead

Actively remove stuff from the world

[midnight sigil]

[tender river]

0? this is perfectly readable

dont talk about readability until you look at stl code

go go look at std::string right now

[midnight sigil]

not if you have a whole ass file filled with one-liner

[tender river]

if your code isnt filled with one-liners what are you even doing smh

[midnight sigil]

if I'm a printer I can read that

[tender river]

standard template library

c++

std::

[opaque wharf]

Begone, APL programmer

[midnight sigil]

[opaque wharf]

Hieroglyph speaking person smh

[tender river]

i have never written a line of apl in my life

[midnight sigil]

I mean at least they follow a coding standard

surely

[tender river]

[midnight sigil]

that's just being intentionally hard to read

obfuscation

[tender river]

it isnt

its written like that on purpose

[midnight sigil]

what purpose

save file size??

[tender river]

nobody cares about your disk space shrinking by 5 bytes

[midnight sigil]

[tender river]

[midnight sigil]

[opaque wharf]

Can't wait for evil dev stream

[crystal sleet]

yeah I don't understand jackshit, you've done it

"J Interpreter" the fuck am I stumbling onto

"Incunabulum for the 21st century" 🗣️ 🔥

[hard raptor]

K so.. i hav cpu and stuffs

But it no post and it giv dram light

[midnight sigil]

are you plugging it on the 2, 4 slot

[hard raptor]

I tried every slot

Or do i specifically need 2 ram sticks?

[midnight sigil]

yes?

what

you only bought one ram

[hard raptor]

Alr

I will go to compooter store and buy 2nd one

[midnight sigil]

make sure you buy the same exact one

buy the same model

or at least have the same frequency

[crystal sleet]

Mine can do single :/ depends on the motherboard

[hard raptor]

Alr

[midnight sigil]

dual-channel or mono-channel yes

most atx boards are dual-channel, which is what I assume OP bought

[crystal sleet]

Anyways, no hurt in having 2 ig, I would've checked the more plausible/basic causes first tho
Like, are you SURE that the ram is seated properly-
Like, are you sure that the vendor is in the QVL

[midnight sigil]

even it's not in the QVL, it should be fine

QVL is used to do supported/qualified overclock stuff on the motherboard

[crystal sleet]

Best case you end up finding the issue, a worse but still a good case is ending up with 2 sticks when the issue isn't caused by them, worst case you could end up with 2 ram sticks that both aren't compatible

[midnight sigil]

hope it's refundable

[crystal sleet]

[midnight sigil]

I have a ROG-Qualified A-DATA RAM kit, but it's not on my ROG motherboard's QVL

yet I can still do XMP

which is funny

[hard raptor]

Me bought 2 new ones.. i still get same light and no display output

[crystal sleet]

Are you sure everything is in place? Check every component, some might seem like they're in place, but for example, the ram sticks gotta click
Make sure the monitor is connected

[hard raptor]

Wait

[crystal sleet]

Uhh, PCIe cables, if you have a gpu and not planning to run off of integrated

[hard raptor]

What are the chances it's the GPU

[crystal sleet]

If you have integrated, try the motherboard output (to see if the issue is the GPU), otherwise, try looking into problems that can stem from the GPU

[hard raptor]

It also wasn't the gpu

But it did giv display output this time

[midnight sigil]

can we get a spec of your pc and a picture of your motherboard set?

[crystal sleet]

I'm not sure about this, but the cpu cooler not being there might also cause issues, I'm not sure tho

[hard raptor]

Motherboard

Cpu: ryzen 9 7900x

[crystal sleet]

It would make sense to send a picture of the setup to see whether we see an immediate issue or not

[hard raptor]

These 2 for ram

Okay

[midnight sigil]

[hard raptor]

It works now

I reset tpm

[midnight sigil]

that's a weird solution to RAM POST Failure

[hard raptor]

Yeh

[midnight sigil]

but I guess congrats

[tender river]

[midnight sigil]

you now have 32gb of ddr5 ram

[hard raptor]

Yup

[crystal sleet]

From the moment I understood the weakness of my blocks, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of lines

[hard raptor]

At first i had just 1 of these in there

Imma test the gpu one more time

Nah the gpu giv vga error

[faint sandal]

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[tender river]

webp slander

[crystal sleet]

At this point I'll make an extension to convert webp to some other proffered formats (Webp is cool but no app fucking supports it)

Password checks I don't care, I use my trusty set secret (not time based) password generator

Cookies, I accept and skip those, something I have installed does that idk

[nocturne olive]

I assume you got a completely new kit of RAM and didn't just throw in a second stick or buy two separate sticks

[crystal sleet]

I can't get through "CAPTCHA" I'm a bot man idfk

[hard raptor]

No that one was just 1 single.. after someone said i need 2 in here i raced to computer store and spend 114 euros on 2 new sticks to replace that singular one

[nocturne olive]

How silly
But yeah, using 2 sticks will give you a significant performance uplift over 1 stick

[hard raptor]

There is still a problem

However it is not important

It is simply that it can't detect my windows drive on boot

[sage crag]

erf

[midnight sigil]

have you installed windows

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1406727268285284442/konorb.gif

[nocturne olive]

If you reset the TPM and have Windows 11, it's just that you deleted the TPM keys probably, so Windows 11 can't decrypt itself or something stupid

[midnight sigil]

holy complexity

[hard raptor]

I no hav win11 silly

Why the frick would i want win11

[midnight sigil]

based

[hard raptor]

Maybe secureboot is turned on in uefi

I know windows is more annoying if it is turned on while it was installed with it off

[midnight sigil]

bro what

I got automodded

automod thinks the abbreviation of Key Management Service is suicidal or smth

[tender river]

for security and support

[crystal sleet]

Dam

[jagged turtle]

:mhm:

[midnight sigil]

what I was originally saying is

Reinstall Windows and proceed to do Key Management Service activation

[hard raptor]

My laptop didn't even support win11

And i no need security and support

Only thin i use win installation for is ableton and gta v

[tender river]

[hard raptor]

Nah windows drive still not bootable with secure boot disabled

But my linux install does see it

So it's not the sata connection

[nocturne olive]

Windows moment

[olive sable]

I wonder how fast my fps could be on a light based cpu

[olive sable]

You say that like compiling shaders isnt what they're actually doing

Anyxays im awake

[topaz tendon]

tfw you go through 8 different headsets during like 2 months of testing and you finally found the one to use long term, but 10 months later it already does this

[crystal sleet]

I had to fix my headphone like 4 times, haven't had any issues for a while tho, but fuck hardware

[cosmic sphinx]

god bless my sennheiser

had to replace the ear pads only once in past 4 or 5 years i've had them

[topaz tendon]

It's just my luck that the most frequent issues I have with headphones that come up over time is damaged cable... So I swap my previous Beyerdynamic with a permanent cable for another one with a removable one, and now I unlocked a new problem.

[crystal sleet]

Mine has a replaceable cable, I broke the dongle like 3 times, and snapped the plastic apart in half and had to buy a used one to replace that part, also the inner solder had to be redone too to put in the replacement piece

[opaque wharf]

Glory to cabled headphone

No more are we limited by the battery time

And battery degradation

[tender river]

i have bough bluetooth headphones exactly once

was horrified by the latency

never used them agian

[crystal sleet]

Depends some have like no noticeable latency

[topaz tendon]

I tried one BT headset, it was too small to even use and test properly...

[opaque wharf]

For something like watching a movie or listening to music, I think the latency is fine. When you're playing or video conferencing however...

[crystal sleet]

Mine has both cable and dongle, I use cable when inside, dongle when outside (Whole ass headset outside is kinda wild, but my hair can make it work if I really want it to)

[topaz tendon]

Bluetooth blows in that regard, I have BT earbuds that measure like 400 ms of delay, even movies are hard to watch.
But 2.4 GHz headsets are much better in that regard, I recall like 30-40 ms latency on those

[crystal sleet]

I like dongle and hate bluetooth, especially have no idea what makes some devices not want to connect over bluetooth

[tender river]

30ms

thats so bad

[opaque wharf]

Mention the L words to vedal and he would design a whole new RF protocol from scratch just to get it down to < 2ms

[tender river]

no need when wires exist

[opaque wharf]

The best method will always be multiplexed fiber optic since it doesn't have the same loss as electric conductor

[olive sable]

my bt headphones dont have any noticbale latency to me

but im also really oblivious so maybe thats on me

[hard raptor]

I bricked my cachyos install somehow lol

[olive sable]

lmao

[sage crag]

@tender river dont you think this is strange

on -O1 they compile to the same asm, but on -O0, the first one is slightly better even though its garbage

[olive sable]

[tender river]

it makes sense on -O0

[sage crag]

yes but

the first one is increasing the program counter, then casting to T* and dereferencing the with an offset of - 1

whereas the second one is dereferencing, then increasing the pc, then returning

i guess its just a scheduling thing

hm

[tender river]

the second one has a stack variable

[sage crag]

clang is even more egregious

[tender river]

the first one uses some kind of fast path for avoiding the stack without even going through the optimizer, maybe

okay its not even that

it just picks the registers completely at random

and suffers the consequences of its own choices

[sage crag]

i tried using register but modern c doesnt support it

[sage crag]

skillful c compiler

and the first one is more widely portable too

[tender river]

c compiler vs hydrogen bomb

[sage crag]

the second one uses a gcc extension which is that
({ a; }) returns a

*evaluates to a

[tender river]

i didnt even know statement exprs were a thing until yesterday

[tender river]

https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Syntax-Extensions.html

[sage crag]

ths monster is now in my codebase

[tender river]

the evaluator progress is

going

yes

its going

[sage crag]

the reason i changed to it is because #define really hates newlines

[tender river]

backslash backslash backslash

[sage crag]

and now its easier to read the code generated by this thing

macros upon macros

[tender river]

my lexer is boring but its reasonably compact

[sage crag]

indeed

[tender river]

then theres the parser utilizing the advanced error handling strategy of "just panic without explaining why the error even happened"

[crystal sleet]

Peak

[tender river]

wait you gotta see this

[sage crag]

just as Result was intended to be used

its awful i hate it

[sage crag]

i changed it to be more portable

not that computed goto is portable

[tender river]

[sage crag]

lol

[tender river]

i didnt know this piece of C lore

[sage crag]

//

/**/

[tender river]

gcc also has typeof

and so does c23 https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/typeof.html

[sage crag]

c style comments

as god intended

[tender river]

gcc

[sage crag]

it works even with commas and symbols

because yeah

__VA_ARGS__

[tender river]

overall it doesnt seem like gnu added that many extensions

[opaque wharf]

What have you done

[tender river]

but this alone makes up for it

[sage crag]

the preprocessor

reads the code inside the macro

and ignores it

yay

[opaque wharf]

I know what it does, but what have you unleashed upon this godforsaken land

[sage crag]

i am ing

[tender river]

deliving

me too

[sage crag]

i dont know why __label__ is required

its not required for me

im using the same trick after all

im doing it to make the branch predictor happy i think

[tender river]

you are doing it within a single function

that one is using it across functions

[sage crag]

oh

wtf

ebil

[tender river]

yesh

[sage crag]

i could use this 🤔

im not going to

it wont be faster and it will make everything worse

[tender river]

apparently the normal use for __label__ is to avoid clashing labels by making them scoped

(since they are otherwise function scoped)

[sage crag]

[tender river]

awawawa im so lazy when im sleepy

and when im not

and the language im making is also lazy

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060090228615958528/1399864129921093784/slep.gif

[crystal sleet]

My neovim config is lazy

Less clicks -> better

[sage crag]

my is lazy

[crystal sleet]

Too lazy to type the whole message out

[midnight sigil]

peak tokenization

[tender river]

no

[olive sable]

My brother bought an xbox one fora motorsport edition

Like bro we already have an xbox one and an xbox one s

There was no need for this

[nocturne olive]

Must be a beginner collector of rare consoles

[olive sable]

He has never even played a forza game in his life

[tender river]

im so eepy i just tried to run :set-language hblang in helix

it will work one day

[sage crag]

hblang in helix

[tender river]

its not hard to integrate languages to helix you just have to make a tree sitter grammar i think

[sage crag]

do you have any good ideas for how to make a value runtime immutable

so far this is all i got

[tender river]

make it be located right before (or after depending on what you need) a page boundary and mark the entire page as read only

[sage crag]

the soon™ hblang treesitter grammar

[sage crag]

i dont want to segfault on writing to r0

ideally

just a no-op

[tender river]

[tender river]

you have macros for register reads and writes right?

just add an if

[sage crag]

no i just have reg

#define reg(T, r) (T *)(regs + r)

[tender river]

then separate it into reg_r (const T*) and reg_w (T *) or something

actually