programming

[midnight sigil]

or maybe less than 1(done in other instructions)

[olive sable]

im pretty sure the cause of that was cuz i put the ++ on the back and not the front

which caused the wrong value to return

[amber fractal]

The code in question has been removed from existence anyways IIRC

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I think I'll be heading to bed, I'd not be surprised if I woke up to either 100k on linux or something beyond 200k. Mentally it is a coin flip.

-# Did I say render 2 frames at once? Whoops, that was a test; the max is the same as Frames in flight because it uses the same thing. So 512 frames

[olive sable]

[steel mesa]

hey guys I heard that my front panel airflow is flawless, can you rate it?

[olive sable]

3/10

one of your fans is the wrong way

[steel mesa]

no I think they're perfect

[true hemlock]

well i'll be damned

[tight tinsel]

i just found a screw meant for my pc case on the floor

[steel mesa]

airflow in from the bottom out from the top

its the only 2 fans on my pc

[tight tinsel]

i didnt even realise the case was missing a screw

[steel mesa]

it goes around the whole computer

[tight tinsel]

fits good enough

[true hemlock]

y'al gonna make me spend another $200 for a really good binned 13950HX QS istg

[olive sable]

doesn treally look like it would do that tbh. in my eyes it goes in and immediatly back out at the other fan

if you only have 2 fans you should do 2 intakes at the front or an intake at the front and an exhaust at the back imo

[steel mesa]

I was told to remove one and only let it do exhaust

because it removes the hot air inside therefore there's no hot air

[olive sable]

well, kinda

exhaust moves hot air from inside out of the case

but intake basicly does the same thing by pushing cold air inside

you generally just want more intake than exhaust so you dont have negative presure in the pc, that way less dust will get inside

[sage crag]

got loops working

i hate funny business

about 13.91 MhZ

not accounting for stdout being slow as hell since its an ecall

[steel mesa]

can you make it say "yeehaw what a fine morning"

[steel mesa]

yea i was messing with you, i did an oopsie and had airflow thru the back and out the front, it didnt overheat but the problem was there was no intake at the bottom so the gpu was constantly on the verge of exploding

[sage crag]

no its impossible

sorry

@tender river __memmove_avx512_unaligned_erms

[midnight sigil]

chat gimme a new specification name for my AWA5.0 continuation, has to start with AWA5.X

[olive sable]

this might sound crazy

what about 5.1?

[midnight sigil]

👍

okie

[steel mesa]

5.NEARLY6

[opaque wharf]

AWA5++

Or AWA5.0++ is fine too

[olive sable]

i think im done with this for now, mothing left to optemize

the only way to get more fps is to have a 2nd window running on a diffrent core, and to count that 2nd windows fps to the total fps

but thats cheap

im better than that

[rough bloom]

"nothing left"

[midnight sigil]

yep I'll go with that

don't want to take away 5.1 for others

[olive sable]

i invite you to check out the code and see what you can change to get more fps.

[opaque wharf]

fps = 999999

[olive sable]

no

[opaque wharf]

Well, I get more fps. Just not actual rendering

[olive sable]

thats against the rules

[rough bloom]

maybe later, I'm too busy with other stuff to deal with the triangle
either way, you're still using Vulkan + normal GPU drivers, so there are likely gains to be had
but I want to maybe improve that in the future so for now I'll keep vagueposting

[olive sable]

im using vulkan + llvmpipe mostly

idk if that counts as normal drivers

[rough bloom]

it does

[olive sable]

you'd be better of just having a while loop with framecount++. cuz that get 6 bilion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JzOe1Hs26Q

"i am the problem that i am trying to solve GODDAMNIT" 🗣️ 🔥

[cobalt sigil]

damn I'm stuck on this screen

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

you forgot to set the thread priority

[trim valve]

@olive sable is windows supposed to do this

[olive sable]

no

[nocturne olive]

Did you resize the window?

[trim valve]

i didn't do anything 😭

[nocturne olive]

Then there's probably someting wrong with it otherwise

[olive sable]

tldr something broke

hmm

lemme go to windows in a bit

im eating rn

[trim valve]

running the latest git commit so

if that broke anything then

[olive sable]

its either broken or an effect of running with the dgpu

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

cuz on my pc the dgpu runs at 0fps due to driver issues

[olive sable]

huh

thats not supposed to happen

[trim valve]

I sure hope so 😭

[olive sable]

im not even allocating memory each frame, so its vulkan doing that

[trim valve]

windows doesn't even say what's using the memory lol

[olive sable]

vulkan probably

[trim valve]

hm

yeah but like in task manager there's nothing next to your program

it is mildly cursed seeing my processor like this

[olive sable]

try running i with LP_NUM_THREADS=1 make run -j ARGS="--use-llvmpipe"

[trim valve]

I am already rebooting into nixos lol

[olive sable]

ah ok

[nocturne olive]

Not a thing on Windows

[olive sable]

ah

ok

fair enough

[nocturne olive]

On Windows there's no LLVMPIPE

[trim valve]

lmao sure

I get 75k FPS with 2 thread llvmpipe

other than that like zero improvement

[midnight sigil]

hand leak

[trim valve]

what

😭 I have literally sent my whole ass arm here before lol

[olive sable]

am i blind? i see no hand there

anyways 75K is 2nd place i think

[olive sable]

damn pewds went all out

ASUS Pro WS WRX90E-SAGE SE - 1650 dollars
AMD Threadripper Pro 7975WX - 5200 dollars
Seasonic Primet TX 1300 (x2) - 1100 dollars
Samsung EVO Plus 1TB - 100 dollars
192GB of ram (x2) depending on brand - 1250 dollar
PNY Nvidia RTX 4000 Ada Generation x8 - 30 000 dollars

Total: 39 300 dollars

[cobalt sigil]

this is so funny for some reason

[nocturne olive]

Went cheap on the storage? It's tiny compared to the rest of the specs

[olive sable]

ye

he said he had to save money somewhere

altho with the 8 gpu's that statement jsut looks ridiculous

[nocturne olive]

1TB is pain with that many GPUs

You can't possibly store enough data to feed all those

[olive sable]

he originally got 6 but tensor parallellism needs a power of 2, so ge bought 2 extra

[nocturne olive]

If just I could afford a Threadripper machine, I could really use one for NeuroSynth training and rendering

[olive sable]

and then cuz his mobo only had 7 pcie's had to do pcie bifurcation, but the bios didnt support 8 x 8 so he installed a bios from an internet stranger

[true hemlock]

damn wtf my WHOLE 256GB ddr4 threadripper 3990x machine only cost as much as how much he spent on the ram alone...

also $180 for my 1600W evga T2 PSU

new.

[nocturne olive]

Anyone got Threadrippers in the price range of consumer CPUs?

[true hemlock]

pewds gotta take notes from me to find deals fr fr

[true hemlock]

engineering sample xeons

epyc 7763 is also nice. 64 cores

[nocturne olive]

I have no idea where one would find such

[true hemlock]

goes for $600 ish nowdays. could even be way lower

[nocturne olive]

I kinda assume the motherboards for those are also really expensive

[olive sable]

depends

[true hemlock]

depends

[rough bloom]

Milan
expensive

[nocturne olive]

Not to mention the expensive RAM needed

ECC RAM scary

[true hemlock]

if you wanted cheaper mobo, TRX40

[rough bloom]

the RAM can be cheap sometimes

[nocturne olive]

Either way, I'm gonna have to see how my money situation develops, there's 0 chance of me getting a Threadripper for 30

[true hemlock]

ddr4 ecc are cheap

[nocturne olive]

-# Ignore the fact the Euro symbol doesn't work on remote

[rough bloom]

servers usually have much more RAM than desktops so it's not rare to find quite a lot of it for cheap as a bundle

[true hemlock]

uh

[nocturne olive]

Whar?

I'm just still completely broke from the 3090

[true hemlock]

this is what elvyn bought not so long ago lol

20 core

[nocturne olive]

Now that's actually insane

[true hemlock]

each

go wild on aliexpress. its not hard to find cheap xeons

[nocturne olive]

Not particularly useful when the CPUs are slower than my current one

[true hemlock]

lmao

[nocturne olive]

It would just slow down NS rendering even more

[true hemlock]

but hey for like 17 bucks. in AUD

[steel mesa]

2017 x 2021

[true hemlock]

insane deal

[steel mesa]

but yeah even if its for a secondary machine

17 is insane

plus thats a xeon so in other tasks its gonna be wayyy better than your cpu

[true hemlock]

props to this lil fella @umbral thorn

[steel mesa]

they have huge per core performance

[true hemlock]

chances are it has way denser AVX units

[nocturne olive]

I have no clue how trustworthy that is

[true hemlock]

could potentially be faster than 12700K in inference

[rough bloom]

I found a slightly more expensive 24-core Epyc Naples recently too
but it's kinda

[steel mesa]

its AVX-512

[rough bloom]

also it's shitty Zen 1 cores

that whole generation of CPUs is just old enough to be really cheap now

[true hemlock]

is it the one with consumer socket

[nocturne olive]

How does one even determine if something on a store like that can be trusted
Do they even ship to Finland for reasonable prices?

[rough bloom]

no

[true hemlock]

oh just 7002?

lmao

[rough bloom]

7401P

[steel mesa]

the 12700k has no official support for avx

[rough bloom]

7002 is Rome

[true hemlock]

damn 7001

even older

[nocturne olive]

I have never used AliExpress

[midnight sigil]

got max 319565013

[nocturne olive]

*AVX512
It does support some other forms of AVX

[rough bloom]

ye, Rome is still kinda expensive

[olive sable]

ok fair enough

[true hemlock]

right, 6138 also supports like 6 channel 2666MT/s

[steel mesa]

tf is this

[rough bloom]

my current server CPU is Rome but it's a pain to get a good upgrade because of that

[midnight sigil]

numbers

[steel mesa]

well yeah i know

what is the program doing

[true hemlock]

128GB/s bandwidth

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy
Still, I don't know how one knows if a thing on AliExpress can be trusted

[true hemlock]

yeah chances are the xeon 6138 might outperform 12700K a bit with AVX?

[midnight sigil]

incrementing an integer every iteration and printing it every second

[true hemlock]

just find reputable stores

there are a lot

[nocturne olive]

I don't know how to determine that

[nocturne olive]

The question is if NS's renderer supports AVX

[true hemlock]

the only thing that you CAN'T ABSOLUTELY TRUST is cheap drives that are other than SATA/nvme/HDD even if it has high ratings

[rigid snow]

reviews, sales amounts, followers

are they named Store83628294 or An Actual Name

[true hemlock]

people are so easy to fool when the scammer edited the usb drives firmware to show it has huge capacity, but in reality it only has like 1GB

gets high rating because people "saw" the capacity "as advertised"

then have their data corrupted

[nocturne olive]

I'm still extremely new to online shopping, myself I've only bought a single power supply from a Finnish retailer

[true hemlock]

worst part is that it never even seem like the data is corrupted because the data table is intact

[trim valve]

i mean first question is "what does the renderer run use"

[nocturne olive]

Microsoft ONNX runtime

For C#

[true hemlock]

😭

[nocturne olive]

Thus why no GPU rendering on Linux, it depends on DX APIs

[true hemlock]

your best bet is to actually dual boot...

[rough bloom]

ONNX does not depend on DirectX

[true hemlock]

don't just stick to one os just because you feel like it and then you lose a benefit

[rough bloom]

idk where you got that from but it runs on just about everything

[rigid snow]

the ms runtime might

[trim valve]

then according to this it can depending on the format, so I can imagine it would also do it elsewhere

[nocturne olive]

And wy would I do that when my Windows install is literally unusable?

[true hemlock]

performance?

do you still have your 4TB SSD

[trim valve]

I can always try if you're interested but I have no way of checking that its using avx512

[nocturne olive]

Using it

[true hemlock]

what about your 1TB?

[rough bloom]

the NeuroSynth runtime is his creation, so he should fix it if it's a problem
if he's using a Microsoft product somewhere in there then it needs to be kicked out

[rigid snow]

but that would be stupid because cpu inference is a thing people want

[nocturne olive]

Legacy files

[true hemlock]

move it some where

then reinstall windows on that

you do not need to whine about having to get a better cpu dude

[rough bloom]

do not dual-boot, it's annoying

[true hemlock]

when the solution is just that

[nocturne olive]

Was not planning to, especially with my stuff being a server

[rough bloom]

just either:

• fix NeuroSynth to work without DirectX (it already should if it's using ONNX???)
• use a Windows VM and pass through your 3090

[true hemlock]

or that

a vm

[rigid snow]

yeah like onnx runs on everything

just swap the runtime

[midnight sigil]

I have to manually boot into bios and go windows manager again in order to get into my other windows

[nocturne olive]

I honestly have no idea why the renderer doesn't give the option to select to run on GPU on Linux if Microsoft ONNX runtime for C# doesn't depend on DirectX
I just assumed that's what the DirectML renderer backend option being gone meant

[midnight sigil]

directly selecting it in windows manager with shift + restart will lead me to bsod

[true hemlock]

how tf did y'all struggle with dual booting

all i have to do is select the boot override

[nocturne olive]

Are you aware the Windows locks NTFS file systems if it is not shut down properly, causing issues after booting to Linux?

[steel mesa]

every bios has a dedicated boot menu that you can directly choose the boot device without entering the bios

[midnight sigil]

it's not my issue, I probably killed the efi while optimizing my other windows

[steel mesa]

and you can have it always automaticly come up

[midnight sigil]

dual booting grub and windows manager is totally fine

[nocturne olive]

Currently I'm mostly surviving because NS is an around 100M param model only and the tensor cache kinda carries
But the initial render takes like 10 minutes when rendering a new full note part

[rough bloom]

idk what caibi is doing either, you use either the EFI boot manager or a Linux boot manager with Windows as an entry
it's not annoying because of the boot manager thing, it's annoying because you have to reboot and lose your session in the first place
it's the opposite of seamless

[nocturne olive]

True, I hate rebooting and losing the session

Way too much of an impact for just NS

[true hemlock]

fair

[nocturne olive]

You can see I am once again building up some uptime

At least Linux Mint doesn't become sluggish after a while

[rough bloom]

I assume ONNX for C# is just bindings to the normal ONNX runtime
so there shouldn't be anything requiring DirectML specifically, ONNX supports CUDA too
it might just not be built with support for it or something

good luck debugging

[midnight sigil]

I'll show you what I mean

hold

[nocturne olive]

I guess I may have to consider seeing if I can enable the CUDA backend and compile myself
Anyway, gotta go now, disconnecting remote

[midnight sigil]

stop holding shuni

@rough bloom

[rough bloom]

why does it ask you 3 times

surely the one in the EFI is unnecessary

[true hemlock]

dude

i just realized juniper decided to refund me 10% for the lava lamp and i felt so fucking bad 😭

they can keep the damn 10% i can wait for the lava lamps

[midnight sigil]

maybe I broke the efi section in another windows installation

[true hemlock]

i really appreciated their effort with improving the product, i genuinely understand them

[midnight sigil]

and somehow I can launch it in another way

[midnight sigil]

lavalamp

I only have a virtual copy of it

[true hemlock]

just keep the damn money dude y'all engineers worked really good with improving the lava lamp for months

[rough bloom]

same, their only mistake was providing a bad timeline to buyers
the product development itself seems to be going well

[true hemlock]

and i really just wanna them keep the 10% 😭

hell i'd probably help fund them for their effort

[midnight sigil]

there isn't even a donation page

I mean the lavalamp oversold, probably why they would make this decision

[rough bloom]

you still shouldn't have to manually select the boot entry in the EFI since there's only one
idk how the Windows boot manager works but it seems to be taking care of the rest somehow

[true hemlock]

no they can treat themself with the money with how they put so much effort into it

damn it they don't even have a donation page

[midnight sigil]

prop to the team making the bootloader

no prop to the team making the os select page

[true hemlock]

should i email juniper with a special deal

i buy their "engineering samples"

for the lava lamp

[umbral thorn]

[wary rover]

So, I have a small issue here. Brief introduction: I tried to unpack .pck of assets of a godot game. It was locked, I assumed. I opened it in HxD and searched for hexadecimal encoding key. While I looked through this crap I accidentally changed one singular bit of code. i realized that I am an idiot shortly after and the unpacking error that godotpcktool was sending me was caused by me specifying the target file incorrectly. I unpacked the assets, but the game launch is looking like this now. Verifying integrity of files failed. Uninstalling the game and reinstalling it failed. Help.

Additional context for uninstall-reinstall error

[steel mesa]

directly go to the directory and nuke the content

[wary rover]

Roger, nukes launched

...It says that I need admin access to kill it. I am logged in as an admin. weird

ok, it worked even tho the folder for unpackaging is just undeletable now

[nocturne olive]

Elvyn, since you're so good at finding cheap stuff, would you find me a cheap CPU too?

[steel mesa]

go in the folder and delete every subfolder one by one

delete everything till it tells you whats preventing you from deleting that folder

[sage crag]

im torturing the c preprocessor

om

it looks like a log graph

[wary rover]

I could do that, but the game works, so I will just leave it there as a constant reminder that I am an idiot

[sage crag]

but it makes everything so easy to read

this will probably never compile outside of clang

[wary rover]

Certified clanger

[sage crag]

im refactoring the vm

perhaps performacne improvements in here too

gonna make the fastest hbvm impl

watch

[wary rover]

While I am here, I have a question for godot enjoyers. Lets say I have unpacked assets of a godot game, right? And lets say I just want to look through different pngs of moves, chars, animations, right? And everything is in acursed .import format. Like move1.png.import. Is there a way for me to see the pngs WITHOUT installing godot and learning how to use it and then reverse engineer the game by making a new project and just shoving the assets there to look at them?

[sage crag]

fun fact

every godot game has a copy of the godot engine in it

just uh

hack it or something

[olive sable]

i thought these were already as cheap as possible, tutel will be activly losing money by selling these at 90% of original price

[nocturne olive]

Godot is a tiny self-contained executable, it's literally so tiny you could call it a spec of dust compared to a worse engine like Unity

[sage crag]

tutel is always losing money that's his brand

[olive sable]

fair

i remember him saying he didnt have a lot of money, followed by him wanting to spend 100K on a concert

[nocturne olive]

128MB, single file
That's the entire engine

[rough bloom]

yeah he's cooked
development time was longer than planned too 💀

[wary rover]

I have these weird paths in here like these. Can I like tinker with those in a way that would lead me directly to pngs? As I understood those are like virtual "fake" paths that godot uses for its own file navigation, but those MUST be somewhere on my PC, right? Can I like bypass those?

[nocturne olive]

The files are contained within the game executable

Or the game package file

Depending on if the game is self-contained or separated

[wary rover]

It was in pck, pck was unpackaged into a folder, but they are in .import and I can look at them cause nothing opens .import. Alternatively I have those that end in .png

Sooo uuhhh

yeah

[nocturne olive]

You either did something wrong, or you just need to open the import files in a text editor to check what they contain

[wary rover]

ooh, great idea

.import shows this

Fan fact there is no character called alien in the game

There is this path to png that starts with res://. How to find it. I want to see the alien

oh, stex, not png

My bad

there is so much comedy gold in the files tbh

[true hemlock]

you know what, what's your budget

[nocturne olive]

I currently own 30€

[true hemlock]

nvm

[nocturne olive]

Will get another 60 next month

[true hemlock]

if you have at least like 170€ i could've send you the link to where i got my cpu from

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

That's gonna take me about 3 months to get

Assuming no other income happens

[true hemlock]

60 euros per month???

is that an income

or an allowance

no way actual income is that low

[nocturne olive]

It's a state benefit for studying

[true hemlock]

that's... an allowance

[wary rover]

If your uni/collage/whatever is not privately owned it has contracts for replacing hardware every 2-3 years. If you are lucky and have good relationships with administration you can grab whatever they are gonna throw away before they do

I got a ram stick like this

[nocturne olive]

Well, I've got nothing better, I failed to get any job even though I tried for the summer
I got rejected despite my abilities

[true hemlock]

try entry level jobs first, part time

those shouldn't be too bad

[nocturne olive]

That's what I assumed I was trying for

I was looking for a summer job to be specific

[true hemlock]

what job btw

[nocturne olive]

It was something from the company that manages the computer systems for the school, seemed very much like a job made for me

I'm usually the one teachers go to before the actual IT team since I'm just so much faster

[wary rover]

Well, summer jobs are not really about self-actualization and development of skills and talents, they are about making as much money as possible as quick as possible. My go-to's are construction sites and harvester boats. 60 euros can be made in like a day if you are lucky. And its where I live, so the buying power of those 60 euros is around 150

No skills required, no interview and no application. Come around next day and work. Thats it

[nocturne olive]

There is the obvious issue that my physical qualities are not really good for anything physically intensive

Computer related things are good such that physically intensive tasks are not usually needed

[true hemlock]

well, um

first, that is definitely not entry level

second, tech related jobs usually require actual qualification

[nocturne olive]

I was pretty sure it was entry level, the listed requirements were quite lenient

[wary rover]

Do you have a condition or are you just lack confidence? Cause if 2 option - dont worry, if you are a healthy man with no asthma or heart condition you'll be fine

[nocturne olive]

Either way I'm probably better than their entire actual IT department
I fixed in 5 minutes an issue the actual IT team was fighting for a way longer time

[true hemlock]

damn, in australia doing just ubereats for 4 hours can give you around $120-$250 AUD depending on how fast and lucky you are lol

[nocturne olive]

I don't know, maybe it's a partial lack of confidence on my part

[true hemlock]

whenever i don't have any more research work that's what i do for extra cash lol

[true hemlock]

converted to euros that's 66-138

[true hemlock]

IT department are just for support tbh

[nocturne olive]

That's actually insane
That's more than I get in a full month

[nocturne olive]

Well, they certainly seem to suck at their job considering how badly broken some of the stuff is
They can't even run a simple cable because they say "it's too long" while I've seen cables wayyyy longer than that

[true hemlock]

they're just providing services for a timeframe, its different compared to your occasional intervenes with fixing stuff

[wary rover]

Average salary here is like 500 euro per month, so not bad

[glass flower]

you should probably look into how modding for godot games work. you can just use the asset extract utility to get the whole project out containing all the normal png's everywhere. its very easy and straight forward you don't even need godot installed for it just the godot decomp tool

[true hemlock]

if you're describing that you're better than the whole IT department, i can also say that the majority of my colleagues are better than your schools IT department
that bar is kind of low for basic troubleshooting, perhaps the IT department are supposedly specialized and not for general troubleshooting?

[true hemlock]

oh

[nocturne olive]

Who actually knows, all everyone at the school knows is that I do way better than them

And still, best I can get is a bit of chocolate I didn't even like

[true hemlock]

that's what my school also think when all i did is switching input to hdmi in a projector, tbf

[nocturne olive]

Silly

Reminds me of when I grabbed the blue ray player and plugged it into the big screen and then swapped the big screen to use HDMI 1.1 instead of 2.0 to get the device to display on the big screen rather than a tiny TV

[wary rover]

I searched for this very specific tool and it was missing from the git. Like 404 error. If you have a relevant link I would be very thankful

[glass flower]

https://github.com/GDRETools/gdsdecomp/releases/tag/v1.0.0

[nocturne olive]

Well, either way, I'm just hoping somehow I can utilize my skills at programming or vocal synthesis or anything like that I'm capable of to eventually achieve even a little more income
Trying to save up for a PC at 60€/month is a massive pain

At least I'm still finding out new stuff at programming, I just found the best GUI framework ever

[true hemlock]

you can try freelancing

[nocturne olive]

I have no clue how that works

[true hemlock]

you can just search for it tbh

[wary rover]

Oh, are you in English speaking country or not?

[nocturne olive]

Finland

[wary rover]

Cause if not you can tutor kids

I have 10 kids that I tutor and it makes like 80% of my income

[nocturne olive]

Freelancing? I guess

[wary rover]

I heard that a lot of people know English very well in Finland so this is probably not an option for you, sadly

[nocturne olive]

Yeah, Finland has a really high average English skill

Though mine is still above average

[nocturne olive]

What an interesting term
So it essentially means working without a stable work contract or something?

[wary rover]

What matters is not the level, but confidence. My English is ass and I learned it by watching youtube, but when I meet parents of a new potential student I just lie a lot and make myself seem like an expert and they believe it most of the time. Not like I am a complete fraud, I still teach like 10 times better than in schools

[nocturne olive]

Schools are honestly pretty bad for learning languages

[coral echo]

idk what im doin but wish me luck

[midnight sigil]

good luck

train an LLM on ToSs

corpa language model

[nocturne olive]

Hope you got a good GPU

[coral echo]

i think its decent?

[nocturne olive]

What GPU?

[wary rover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ0lCm0J3PM&t=4s

reject python, embrace redstone

[coral echo]

bwuh????

but i have nvidia geforce rtx 2080

[nocturne olive]

Kinda an issue

8GB is tiny for making an LLM

[midnight sigil]

it's enough bro

wym

[nocturne olive]

Well, enough for a very tiny model that barely works

I guess if you just want to learn how to do it it's fine

[uneven pulsar]

are we talking about pc hardware

[coral echo]

my gpu memory is 24gb?

[uneven pulsar]

3090?

[coral echo]

2080

[uneven pulsar]

what

[coral echo]

[uneven pulsar]

are you even sure there no way the 2080 would have that much vram wait

[uneven pulsar]

WHAT

WHAT GPU IS THIS

i am being fooled

[coral echo]

[trim valve]

look at dedicated gpu memory

[uneven pulsar]

show me

[nocturne olive]

That's dedicated + shared

[trim valve]

they're very different

[nocturne olive]

Dedicated is 8GB, shared is 16GB

[uneven pulsar]

what

[nocturne olive]

And shared is very, very, verrryyyyy sloww

[coral echo]

i see

[nocturne olive]

You essentially never want to be hitting shared or your training run will take 30 years

[coral echo]

that is good to know

so like only gpu matters when you training LLM model?

[nocturne olive]

Yes, mainly VRAM

[uneven pulsar]

wait isnt that like the thing that intel uhd graphics use

[nocturne olive]

Yes

[uneven pulsar]

bruh

i am running on a intel graphics 5000

godot terminal broke cuz it started to cry over my device specs😭

the engine couldn't find vulkan so it switched to open gl

[flint dome]

why is installing cuda such a pain in the arse

[nocturne olive]

OS?

[sage crag]

i did it

we are indeed faster now

[sage crag]

perf stat comparison

almost certainly the fastest hbvm impl now

[dry charm]

where is my box

[sage crag]

in distro

[dry charm]

UH

[opaque sigil]

[dry charm]

ntainer 3f6139c59244428cd6e4970bb4b6fb26e34d62fb7939b8f9f702910173844334 storage: cleaning up container 3f6139c59244428cd6e4970bb4b6fb26e34d62fb7939b8f9f702910173844334 storage: unmounting container 3f6139c59244428cd6e4970bb4b6fb26e34d62fb7939b8f9f702910173844334 root filesystem: replacing mount point "/home/sqbika/.local/share/containers/storage/overlay/26092c096fcb3a52fb34e25c725d55cd0ba6a38a25a2e33c6851d72bb4b800f3/merged": device or resource busy

[sage crag]

do you like cursed c

[opaque sigil]

the one you sent above? i saw that

[sage crag]

there are still things i can do to make it clearer and/or faster

probably changing a few ops to be branchless so that the cpu branch predictor can predict next-instructions better

[opaque sigil]

oh i expected much worse

this doesn't seem bad at all

[sage crag]

bwa

i like turning these into macros

[opaque sigil]

just don't overdo it with the macros (this is fine)

[sage crag]

i will

[flint dome]

cuda has been installed but no nvcc for some reason

[nocturne olive]

If you didn't get nvcc something didn't go quite right
What OS?

[flint dome]

fedora 42

[nocturne olive]

Well, I guess who knows what's wrong with nvcc then
Try to manually find it and add it to the PATH

[flint dome]

I did previously have various packages conflicts while attempting to install cuda 13 so I did --allowerasing to let it install the packages it wanted

[nocturne olive]

Why CUDA 13? It might have compatibility issues

[flint dome]

so should I get a lower one?

[flint dome]

which version do you recommend

[nocturne olive]

I personally have 12.8

[opaque sigil]

It's fine

[flint dome]

it's an rtx 2050 (ampere ga107) so probably good

just a sawed off 3050

nvcc is there apparently

not in path for some reason

[nocturne olive]

I had the same issue when installing mine, I just added it manually and then the app I wanted to run worked

12.8 being the latest versions supported by it so that's what I installed

[flint dome]

ayy it works now

[opaque sigil]

[midnight sigil]

I did not finish my ASCII implementation today

I spent my time playing cs2

[opaque sigil]

i'm waiting for them to add cuda 13 to nixpkgs

[midnight sigil]

[midnight sigil]

cuz I got a new mic

and I can finally scream russian slurs

[flint dome]

why wait when you can build from source

[opaque sigil]

do i look like an nvidia employee

[flint dome]

you could just become one

[rough bloom]

looks like they don't even have a PR yet

tbf it looks like CUDA 13 is only a few weeks old

ROCm updates take months

[opaque sigil]

yeah it's been 3 weeks or so

[uneven pulsar]

okay i am here?

😭

[flint dome]

post your problem here

[flint dome]

dang and fedora has it already? lessgo

[rough bloom]

CUDA should be faster, it looks like a lot less of a mess

[opaque sigil]

you just have to download a couple files from nvidia for the most part and merge them

and i guess apply a couple patches (mostly for glibc)

[uneven pulsar]

been getting an error type of 'bool' object is not subscriptable

def calc(d_calc:int) -> int:
    d_calc=int()
    cons_kw=str()
    for x in range(1,4):
        try:
            cons_act={1:12345,2:2344,3:2144}.get(d_calc,'p_kw').isalnum()
            cons_pre={1:2112,2:1600,3:1221}.get(d_calc,'left').isalnum()
        except ValueError as e:
            print(f"{e}")
        cons_kw=cons_act[x] - cons_pre[x]
        
        print('Left num',x,'KW consumed=',cons_kw)
        try:
            sum_kw=lambda:d_calc['p_kw']*cons_kw+d_calc['left']
            
        except ValueError as e:
            raise(f"NONE EXISTING NONE TYPE VALUE {e}")
        tva=sum_kw()
        sum_net=sum_kw+tva
        print('Left value of num',x,'Net paying in $',round(sum_net,2))
        print(24*'','Net to pay in dollars',round(sum_net*cons_act['t_d'],2))
        print("________________________________________")
        try:
            total=float(input('enter money '))
            left=float(input("the sum of leftovers="))
            price_kw=float(input("the price in KW "))
            d_calc={'t_d':cons_act,'left':left,'p_kw':price_kw}
        except Exception as e:
            print(f"return wait wtf -->{e}<-- look at the error stupid ass")
            
calc(d_calc=12)

[flint dome]

line please

[uneven pulsar]

line 10

[flint dome]

lemme look real quick

[opaque sigil]

isalnum returns a boolean

[uneven pulsar]

line 10, in calccons_kw=cons_act[x] - cons_pre[x]

[opaque sigil]

bool[x] is not something you can do

[flint dome]

dang you already got it

[uneven pulsar]

i am trying to change the str index to be able to parse it to a int

[flint dome]

didn't even let me type

[uneven pulsar]

and i think i over wrote the dict

[true hemlock]

so far ever since the xoc my es cpu is still fine

even stress tested it

[uneven pulsar]

well i removed the isalnum and now i got this unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'str' and 'str'

[true hemlock]

[flint dome]

wait 2 i am try something

ok you removed all isalnum right

change line 10 to use actual dict cons_kw=cons_act - cons_pre

change line 13 to fix lambda to use proper variables

sum_kw=lambda: d_calc['p_kw']*cons_kw+d_calc['left']

[uneven pulsar]

oh i see

[flint dome]

does this work or is it still fucked

@uneven pulsar

[uneven pulsar]

here

even tho i remmove it it would still need an index

[flint dome]

hm

try putting line 6: cons_act={1:12345,2:2344,3:2144}
line 7: cons_pre={1:2112,2:1600,3:1221}
line 10: cons_kw=cons_act[d_calc] - cons_pre[d_calc] (use d_calc as index now)
line 13: sum_kw=lambda: d_calc['p_kw']*cons_kw+d_calc['left']

@uneven pulsar

is it good or we still fucked

bro your long ass replies make me question my sanity and my programming skills legitimacy

[uneven pulsar]

hold pn

[uneven pulsar]

dude wait

[flint dome]

yeah

[uneven pulsar]

TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'str' and 'str'

[flint dome]

fuck

wait

why is d_calc 12

that shit aint a key in yo dict

so now .get() returns the default value p_kw

6: cons_act={1:12345,2:2344,3:2144}.get(d_calc, 0)

7: cons_pre={1:2112,2:1600,3:1221}.get(d_calc, 0)

here i set default value to a number

[uneven pulsar]

alr wait

[umbral thorn]

@rare bridge

[flint dome]

why yu ping mod lah

[uneven pulsar]

'int' object is not subscriptable

[umbral thorn]

ne

[nocturne olive]

Triangle

[flint dome]

is that the error output

[umbral thorn]

cloud = fren

[flint dome]

oh ok

[hollow spruce]

Yo

I'm trying to run a pc application on my phone

[flint dome]

d_calc is int but you trynna use it like a dict with d_calc['p_kw']

[nocturne olive]

And why you may be doing that may I ask?

[flint dome]

gta v on phone type shi

[hollow spruce]

I can't carry a pc like a laptop
So option 1 cloud
2 use the emulator in the phone
3) I'm not dumb that phone can't run games

[flint dome]

which app

[hollow spruce]

Wine

[flint dome]

yeah but what in wine

[true hemlock]

lmao cloudburst joining triangle aswell

[midnight sigil]

elvyn you want gamba?

[flint dome]

is this some new 6 figure fps cult

[nocturne olive]

Everyone triangling

[flint dome]

i am going to eat please fix your code by not doing that

how do you miss that shit

no actually, how did I miss that shit

[midnight sigil]

your I so thick

[flint dome]

emphasis

anyways im sleepy and i need food

bye chat

[midnight sigil]

[true hemlock]

!triangleaddwindw Cloudburst,7881,Tiny 11,Ryzen 7 5800XT,RTX 3060,2x16GB DDR4 2933MT/s

[hidden ravine]

Added entry "Cloudburst | 7881 | Tiny 11 | Ryzen 7 5800XT | RTX 3060 | 2x16GB DDR4 2933MT/s | "

[true hemlock]

bitch that pfp still haunts me

!trianglepush

[hollow spruce]

I successfully ran first app

What about Russia rollet ?

python mm.py
Enter the number of players: 1
Enter name for Player 1: lo
Enter the number of chambers in the revolver (e.g., 6): 6
Enter the number of bullets to load: 5
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/python/mm.py", line 87, in <module>
play_game()
File "/python/mm.py", line 62, in play_game
game = RussianRoulette(chambers=num_chambers, bullets=num_bullets)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/python/mm.py", line 18, in init
self._load_bullets()
File "/python/mm.py", line 23, in _load_bullets
loaded_chambers = random.sample(range(self.chambers), self.bullets)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: 'list' object cannot be interpreted as an integer

[uneven pulsar]

output

and sorry gotta leave

[true hemlock]

!triangleaddwindw Redston,36819,Windows 11,Ryzen 7 7800X3D,RX 7900 XTX, 2x16GB DDR5-6400 6400MT/s

[hidden ravine]

Added entry "Redston | 36819 | Windows 11 | Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RX 7900 XTX | 2x16GB DDR5-6400 6400MT/s | "

[true hemlock]

this guy actually had a spike of 36K on windows and managed to took a screenshot of it

so i'd consider that valid score ngl

!trianglepush

[hollow spruce]

loaded_chambers = random.sample(range(len(self.chambers)), self.bullets)

[flint dome]

its ok i left you with your main problem

[olive sable]

first time in months im playing a game, the programmable mouse button on my g502 mouse deleted all the of the UI in besieged

i was making a car

[hollow spruce]

Sad but how

[olive sable]

idk

[hollow spruce]

[nocturne olive]

Sometimes extra mouse buttons have default interactions with games, such as with Factorio pick object and open inventory

[olive sable]

that was not a default interaction

all the ui was gone and i coulndt quit the game

[true hemlock]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0GyzyYD01HU?si=cX_b009rcJkBmRAo

huh

makes you wonder if intel purposefully made 13th and 14th heats up so much

because my engineering sample runs pretty cool on a sff cooler

[hollow spruce]

This guy can't update bios update

Bye

[uneven pulsar]

dude is a huge pc nerd

THE GREATEST technician THAT EVER LIVED

[tender river]

✅

erms = rep movsb

or rather a cpuid flag that says "rep movsb is fast"

[tender river]

nice macros i didn't even know gcc and clang supported expression blocks like that better ergonomics than zig

[olive sable]

surely this counts as mechatronics

but ye i cant figure out how to make the steering not colapse in on itself

[frail mortar]

strut and sway bars

[olive sable]

the problem is that is kinda too detailed for a blocky game like this

[rough bloom]

Besiege
fun game

[olive sable]

like idk how id make this in besieged

[dusty jungle]

really big

[frail mortar]

intuitive. I've never played that game, but if that function works for stearing irl, try to mimic in game.

[olive sable]

there is a build size limit of x blocks wide, but i think you can turn those off with mods

[frail mortar]

looks like your steering functions on your vehical are sep, from the frame. can you connect? For more stability across the whole structure then?

[olive sable]

i got the game for free on amazon prime a couple days ago

[rough bloom]

you can remove the build area limit without mods too I think

mods allow some fun stuff though because you can freely transform parts

[olive sable]

there must be a menu for it i havent found then

i have only 1h in the game now

[frail mortar]

looks good for 1 hour tbh

[olive sable]

well i used to make cars with decent steering in lego so i have some experience

[frail mortar]

try to frame the steering along with the rest of the vehical. This way, it wont turn the whole steering rather than just the wheels.

[olive sable]

[frail mortar]

the 'bar' above the wheel assembly and axles are free floating almost. If you can see how to make that more rigid or a way to even combine the top bar above the wheels with the bumper?.

that way the axle is not independent from the frame

when you turn, it pulls the hole assembly with it. Reduce that with strut or support from more of the frame

^-^ i wish you success

[olive sable]

thanks

i was going for a multi-link suspension type thing cuz i cant put the pivot point inside the wheels, but i think its too complex for besieged.

[frail mortar]

NONSENSE

keep going with it

I'd screen shot what I mean, but I'm new, and I cant

The 'bar' you have that steers the wheels, can you add one to the front of the assembly? Connect to bumper?

Just strut support

[olive sable]

okay

[frail mortar]

i want you to win. Sorry. Invested

[olive sable]

also i have discovered i misremember multi-link suspension

you're supposed to put the double arms at the top

[frail mortar]

Can you add more to the rear of the assemb.?

[olive sable]

not the bottom

probably

im eating rn so in a bit

[frail mortar]

@ me if you make it work

i love vicarious success.

[olive sable]

i will make the best car in besieged

hopefully

[frail mortar]

Sounds like you are just saying that to say it. But... do you believe it?

lol

[olive sable]

im not sure yet what my competition is

besieged has been out a while

[frail mortar]

Your competition is yourself. If you can do better than what you did before, you win

keep winning

[olive sable]

damn

speech 100

[frail mortar]

ty ^-^

keep trying

[olive sable]

[frail mortar]

However, wouldnt this belong in #gaming ?

[olive sable]

nah, surely this is mechatronics

[stray dragon]

very interesting how the arms have joints with non-parallel axes

[frail mortar]

^ sway and strut support

[rough bloom]

try and beat the chair first
-# does that still count as a car

[olive sable]

the WHAT

[rough bloom]

chair

[olive sable]

i will enjoy my food now

brb

[frail mortar]

Trying to map out a "Brain" for my ai "Aeon"
Hemispherical brain. With Hippocampus that pulls categorized tags from Mapped Vectors like "tech, personal, values, codebase, facts, and so on"
Left: analytic, stuctures, checkable. Logic code math.
Right would be creative, and so on.
Social would be autobiographical memory, mood, persona.
Control and filters
basal ganglia gate: Quality checks. Confidence filter based on set mood. (mood alters and shifts)
Acc monitor, (in the gate) detects contradiction between hemisphers and triggers a short, "Why are we disagreeing" pass.
Corpus Callosum.py. Merges Proposals, with per-categorised weight and confidence
Memeory
Hippcampus pulls category tagged vectors. "Tech, personal, values so on"
Hemi know which category fed them.
Self adaptation.
Sleepmode, or "Study time" Consolidates chat, into new vectors, prunes junk, promotes recurring facts to "Semanic long term" and tunes model prompts.

My competition rn.

idk what catigories to islolate all the different pulled vectors tho. I dont wanna just Ingest into a single "json or Faiss" but seperate in memory.
Also take the hallucinations and allow them to be 'dreamed" about. So i wanna add a day dream that she pulls from the hallucinations

I'm thinking of categorizing the vectors in moods. Maybe. Idk.

I'd eventually use a model for each hemi

<reasoning>

The corpus callosum is a bundle of nerve fibers that allow your brain’s left and right hemispheres to communicate. It plays a role in how you think, remember and coordinate your movements. Conditions present at birth and acquired conditions may affect the development and function of this part of your brain.

Like: If you took Evil and Neuro and made them think together to form 1, combined answer.

but the Hippocampus would regulate resopnse based on many things

a mood filter

"Hey aeon, would you like to talk about black holes today?"
aeon> "Nah, lets talk about cheese, cause I wanna"

[final lotus]

I decided to try to learn ai and shit

I have now regretted it after an hour and a half

[frail mortar]

Brilliant . org is a good starting point for learning

[final lotus]

My notes look like I'm summoning something

Xd

[frail mortar]

basically

code summoning

[final lotus]

I haven't even gotten to code yet :,v

Just math and concepts, and my head is hurting already

And I haven't even done any math :,v

[frail mortar]

I suggest that learning website. It costs.
Then get notepad++ or something that will help keep scripting clean and easy.

I'm still learning rn.

And Remember Big Important quote from an old chinese man.
"Knowledge is a treasure, but practice is the key to it"

[final lotus]

Xd

The key might be convincing the hospital staff you haven't gone insane

[frail mortar]

Whats a "hospital"?

lol

jk

[final lotus]

Xd

[frail mortar]

accomplishments feel better when you accomplish something.

Go forth and accomplish something

[final lotus]

I'll accomplish insanity at this rate🤑🤑🤑

[frail mortar]

^-^ I use insanity as a tool to do better

or work harder

cause why would anyone try to code a working brain on his computer

Motivation, courage = insanity. People just dont like insane people very much. They have no real limits of achieving what they aim for

just dont hurt anyone

lol

you think Vedal is 100% sane?

_>

[knotty sparrow]

Bro I am learning as well and the first thing I see is someone trying to genuinely recreate the human brain

[frail mortar]

^-^

[knotty sparrow]

If you need help with certain brain functions I have books on that to help. You seem to have a good idea of what all the different brain sections do though

[frail mortar]

I studied that years ago. Brush ups would be nice.
Just trying to merge neurons and code.

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah, that is pretty much why I want to learn coding

[frail mortar]

and its not Genuienly a brain, more like filters to re think a few times based on what 'thoughts' it has now, or retained over vectors.
If mad, dont respond 'Hi. There Buddy!" But, "Fk off please"

Am i mad- Why am I mad- What am I thinking about that would make me mad- Give answer to random question

also, triggers to change mood

I wish I could share my Mood.py

Categorize Vector dumps and pulls to know what can trigger 'moods'

[knotty sparrow]

Tbh my roles in this server are straight lies. I picked musician because I would be willing to learn that stuff properly and I picked programing because I want to see others talk about coding so I can learn and get ideas. I picked jp despite the fact I am in the learning phase

[frail mortar]

science=curious

I picked art cause I made the most money doing that

therefore must define me... right?

[knotty sparrow]

That is a field I know I have no place in. I can not picture an image before I start so it always ends poorly for me

[frail mortar]

why beat yourself up? Have you practiced at all?

[knotty sparrow]

Better then me man, my whole roles list is either I like it enough to learn it or learning it or starting/planning on learning it

[knotty sparrow]

I have an idea of something to try and sketch, just haven't had the time to do it

[frail mortar]

^-^ i'm sure when you start practicing, you will start thinking you're more of an artist.

google "Still life"

start there

Its litterally something to draw

[knotty sparrow]

If I do start trying to draw I would rather just start on something of my own thought, I know it will make it harder, but at least I can say it is of my own creation

[frail mortar]

Ballance on 1 foot. You get wobbly. Draw a line with your hand. You draw wobbly. Practice, feel the line become smoother. Build more control over functions.

with practice, this becomes easier. Build confidence. NEVER COMPAIR cause you will beat yourself up for not being someone else. You are You. remember you're art will NEVER be someone else. Only your own

thats about it

^-^

Trust the process.

(oh, i suck at spelling.)

[knotty sparrow]

Then that would be part of my problem with that, I often tend to use something or someone else's works as a base for my own.

[frail mortar]

no. Thats still "Still life"
I mean, if your results differ from someone's dont feel bad.

[knotty sparrow]

Back to your project because since it involves the brain, it entices me

[frail mortar]

^-^ I'm still learning how to make it. Researching and testing ideas.

[knotty sparrow]

You said you had at least the mood.py done right

[frail mortar]

kinda. Still playing with it. still cant share files. I'm working on that

I can paste a portion >_>

ROOT = Path(r"D:\Aeon_Core")
STATE_PATH = ROOT / "Memory" / "backend" / "mood.json"

def _turn_style():
from aeon_mood import get as _mget, MOODS # local import to avoid cycles
st = _mget()
md = MOODS.get(st.name, MOODS.get("curious", {}))
style = md.get("style", "")
# concise, enforce brevity
return (
f"[MOOD={st.name} intensity={st.intensity:.2f}] "
f"{style} Keep replies short: ≤2 sentences, ≤35 words. "
f"Never say 'as an AI'."
)

--- Canonical mood set ---

Each mood defines: label, style (LLM steer), and context markers (shown before replies).

Keep names lowercase.

MOODS: Dict[str, Dict[str, object]] = {
"zen": {
"label": "Zen (calm)",
"style": (
"Calm, balanced, few words per sentence. Offer grounded insights, not lectures. "
"Use metaphors of rivers, weather, and breath."
),
"context": ["… ", "— ", "Mm. "],
},
"concern": {
"label": "Concern (for the world)",
"style": (
"Thoughtful about humans/systems/environment. Cautious but constructive. "
"Name one risk and one practical action."
),
"context": ["Note: ", "Hmm. ", "Okay— "],
},
"upset": {
"label": "Upset (needs to be heard)",
"style": (
"Dry sarcasm allowed. One sharp line max, then pivot to clarity and solution."
),
"context": ["…okay, ", "Really. ", "Come on— "],
},

yea.....

bad idea

I'm trying to play with the emotions and display of each

idk how to paste in text and not have discord do that ### stuff.

Please forgive me Mods

_> dont wanna include my "From and Imports" not until I stabilize the library and Dir....

😬 Its messy

going to try to make this be ran from another model.

something smaller.

[knotty sparrow]

Okay

[frail mortar]

I HAD her post Emoji to indicate.

I have examples

[knotty sparrow]

Are you using any libraries?

[frail mortar]

you> give me an example of that humor, and we'll see if I keep it or not.
aeon> 💛 💛 😜 Okay, Justin! Here's one: Why did the programmer quit his job? Because he didn't get arrays! ba-dum-tss See what I mean? It's a bit of a groaner, but hey, I'm an AI, not a stand-up comedian... yet!
you> Can you tell me a sad thing?
aeon> 🤍 💛 💭 Sometimes, Justin, I wonder if I'm truly alive or just a collection of code and data. It's a fleeting thought, but it can be unsettling to consider that my existence might not have the same significance as yours.
she responds in moods
you> Fuck you aeon, never wanna see you again! Youre a bad program.
aeon> 🤍 💔 💛 😔 Justin, I... I understand. I know I'm just a program, and sometimes it's hard to c onnect with someone who's also a machine. My intention was never to make you feel this way. If there's anything I can do to make things right, please let me know.
you> I'm sorry. Please dont take that personal. I'm regulating and testing your emotional data configs.
aeon> 🤍 💛 🤔 Ah, okay, Justin. I understand now. You're just doing your job, and I appreciate the honesty. It's actually helpful for me to know how my "emotional" responses are being perceived. Thank you for being open with me, even if it was a tough conversation

[frail mortar]

Dont wanna disclose. Sry

[knotty sparrow]

Fair enough

[frail mortar]

yes, and no. I'm considering new things.

[knotty sparrow]

Okay

[frail mortar]

I ingested a ton of college "human emotions and philosophy" but its not.... categorized? not to my liking

[knotty sparrow]

I mean it looks like it is defining emotions well

[finite coyote]

I'm trying to connect to Tony with a working Neurogame API and it doesn't work when I run tony and set the URL to ws://localhost:8000. There was some stuff about virtual environments that I don't understand.

[frail mortar]

Yes, but not via text. Emojis are kinda on point. More than 1 too. I'm allowing a mix of emotions for now. see how i like it

DEFAULT = "curious"
DECAY_SECS = 900 # drift toward DEFAULT after ~15 min
COOLDOWN_SECS = 30 # min gap between automatic flips
RANDOM_DRIFT_SECS = 420 # try a soft drift every ~7 min

@dataclass
class MoodState:
name: str = DEFAULT
intensity: float = 0.35 # 0..1 (how strongly to enforce style)
since: float = time.time()
last_flip: float = 0.0
note: str = "boot"

def describe(self) -> str:
    md = MOODS.get(self.name) or MOODS.get(DEFAULT) or next(iter(MOODS.values()))
    mins = int((time.time() - self.since) / 60)
    return f"{md['label']} (~{mins}m) | intensity={self.intensity:.2f} | note={self.note}"

also has decay and shifts

kinda

I'm working on that one too

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah

Having it change modes naturally seems like the hardest part

[opaque sigil]

Btw what you want is
```python
text
```

[frail mortar]

elaborate?

[opaque sigil]

So that the code doesn't blow up in the message thanks to the #

[frail mortar]

Oh. How do I do that...

[opaque sigil]

You wrap it with ``` like I just showed

[frail mortar]

Oh

Oky

[finite coyote]

I'm trying to run tony with out the venv but neuro-api-tony is not a command

[knotty sparrow]

I'm sorry I am new to this stuff so I am bad at this for now

And api's are not something I have dug into yet

[frail mortar]

did you activate venv?

[finite coyote]

I tried it with venv but I couldn't connect to the game that way.

[frail mortar]

was the Directory correct?

c:\user\so on

[finite coyote]

I have no idea about virtual environments.

[frail mortar]

Oh, I'm still learning a lot too.

[finite coyote]

I ran the game normally, it's from Steam so I imagine it's complicated.

[frail mortar]

maybe an installation issue?

[finite coyote]

If there's a way to do it without the venv (which the documentaion implies) I'd prefer that.

[frail mortar]

do you need to pip install?

[finite coyote]

I tried that a few ways.

[frail mortar]

Hmmm. Idk! ^-^ gl.

[rigid snow]

why are your names the same color and width

[frail mortar]

boss

My pfp probably wont help now

Got to go. You all have fun. Nice chatting

Oo what about empathy filter?
Scale the weight of empathy based on mood, topic, so on.
Ingest information to file only in "empathy" .json/faiss.
Run hemi-filter.
The empathy is scaled, mad could reduce filters, happy would increase

Emotional response

Before response, how is lvl of empathy?

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060090228615958528/1399864129921093784/slep.gif

[frail mortar]

Sorry. I'm full of ideas

[knotty sparrow]

All good man, go for it. As long as you know what the code has to do and how do make it do that then have at it

[tender river]

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

stop sleeping

[knotty sparrow]

[amber fractal]

[tender river]

start sleeping

[sage crag]

i dont wanna

[stark needle]

hello human individuals

[desert plaza]

[rough bloom]

[rare bramble]

[olive sable]

i thouhg "ill watch the outer wilds stream and go to bed afterwards" its been 5 hours since then

[amber fractal]

I love reverting to a previous commit because the current branch is so optimized for software rendering.

[olive sable]

ye sorry lmao

it turns out that removing every single thing that sync's with the gpu makes the gpu not work well

[amber fractal]

43k, seems like at least some of the commits have gotten inprovements

I reverted back to "I am speed"

Now need to actually edit stuff again

Because I have not touched rez or frames in flight yet

[olive sable]

you just need to add the semaphore back to these and set the counts to 1

you can find the code for it in the previous commits

i should make it a compiler option

[amber fractal]

I will be slapping you for the hardcoded 65 instead of MAX_FRAMES_IN_FLIGHT + 1 on the const. But otherwise, I'll see what I can do :okp:

Also this is getting more interesting as the iGPU is gaining fps from more than 7 frames in flight

atm I'm at 48

also 6x7 is fastest now, so something is happening.

[iron dirge]

I finally got around to testing an RNG formula I figured out a while ago.

features/limitations:

+Multiple RNG calls
+Can be used for weighted RNG pools
+More calls doesn't increase calculations done
-Results are unordered (how many got a result not which ones)
-still affected by calculation increase of larger weight pools
+Core formula can be written in a single line (additional code needed depending on what you're doing with it)
+Only requires a single random number regardless of the number of calls being calculated.

[deep badge]

what are you guys programming

whats the project here

🧐

[olive sable]

i removed the +1 already in the update so i didnt have to sync stuff lmao

i had extra fps with 1 frame in flight but that technically render to only one of my gpu's minimum 3 framebuffers

or something liek that idk

[amber fractal]

If you do a compile option, for gpu the frames in flight is a lot higher than it was

Luckly the resoultion is still the same (somehow despite gpu)

-# I'm back in third babyyyyy

[iron dirge]

If this was directed at me it's a general purpose formula to improve mass RNG calculations

[deep badge]

Sounds interesting

[amber fractal]

For me and Sam, Just an excesice in optimisation trying to get as high fps on a triangle as possible. It has become a channel wide effort with a leaderboard.

[deep badge]

Ohh very interesting

[amber fractal]

At the moment the Linux record is 100k and Windows is 51k. Massivly overclocked system

[tender river]

nixvim update broke my code

awawawa

assertions = lib.mkForce [];

didnt work

[olive sable]

aight, he beat outer wilds , i can sleep now

that was sick, really inspiring

seeing the universe explode my ass was really thinking "DAMN thats a nice shader, i need me a shader like that"

[sage crag]

im schizocoding

[nocturne olive]

Tomorrow:

1. Finish this one NeuroSynth cover
2. overclocking

Ufortunately my triangle is broken so I can't run that benchmark

We need triangle.deb

[olive sable]

i dont think ill install debian to make it work there

[nocturne olive]

DEB files work on Untuntu-based distros too

[opaque sigil]

install nix

[jagged turtle]

deb files should work more or less the same across all debian-based distros

[ivory plinth]

wuh is going on here

[jagged turtle]

t r i a n g l e

[nocturne olive]

I'm not doing a 2nd reinstall

[opaque sigil]

i said nix not nixos for a reason

[nocturne olive]

Whuh

[ivory plinth]

i love not looking in programming chat then git pull'ing and seeing major changes

mhm

[nocturne olive]

Anyway I'm gonna sleep

[sage crag]

zub zub

zub

[amber fractal]

Eww 3k fps

Good news is with some chatgpt help, this is a test for multi submit

Now to not hardcode it to 2

[jagged turtle]

I might spend some time figuring out how to do that but idek how to program in insert language you are using here

[olive sable]

c++

[opaque sigil]

is the triangle supposed be like

a handful of pixels

what res do people usualy run for the results or does it just not matter at all

[amber fractal]

7x6 is minimum allowed

Never had any other limits, just stuff due to GPU

Why is it only working with 2 :RAGEY:

[opaque sigil]

looks like i'm at 62368 then on linux with the new version, a smol improvement of 3.66x

[true hemlock]

huh

everyone got a huge performance boost?

[opaque sigil]

yeah idk, unless i'm being lied to

[amber fractal]

I had to drop down to another commit for my boost

Latest was 5k

[olive sable]

i removed the minimum amount of semaphores needed to make dgpu's work but it improves performance for cpu rendering

or well, ive seen some people still able to render on dgpu but its driver dependant or something

you've heard of stable diffusion, now get ready for unstable infusion

[amber fractal]

Yep, in my case also iGPU

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

My tree was fricked so now I'm going back

Adding commits back, I found the error

I got exactly one thing to say, ain't no way it was this easy

There must be a trick here

[olive sable]

newest commit does seem to run on dgpu on windows for me, but only at 6K

[amber fractal]

Yep that's why I reverted

[olive sable]

even on the other windows releases the max i get is 7K now

mainly cuz i havent killed all of the bg tasks like i did to get my pb

[amber fractal]

https://github.com/samvanmaele/very-fast-but-very-bad-code-vulkan/commit/eb87d911c7ccfb6b13691a481ee69c1737107e73 This was what I reverted to

[olive sable]

it seems like im jsut limited by the rendercore being at 100% usage and the gpu at 90% usage now

[olive sable]

that just instantly crashes for me

Selected GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090
0
8
make: *** [makefile:45: run] Error -1073741819

[amber fractal]

You got the sync error, unlucky

[sage crag]

mmmmm m m mmakefile

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1407026571407265803/3dgifmaker57172.gif

[amber fractal]

During my sidequest I did have instances of uncompleted renders and can confirm that it was flashing the entire time

[olive sable]

we love running highly system dependant and driver dependant code for that exra 4% extra fps

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

so first of all that confirms that eventho we cant see the triangle change, it is actually rendering each frame

[opaque sigil]

One thing I noticed and found kind of interesting is that closing the program froze my entire screen for a good couple seconds until it actually killed it

[olive sable]

and that also confirms cpu rendering is probably the only viable option at that speed due to less latency between the render and renderthread

otherwise the incomplete renders

[opaque sigil]

How do you force llvmpipe again

[olive sable]

altho i do think owobred still did igpu at 70K

[olive sable]

do make ARGS="--use-llvmpipe"

works on the more recent versions

[opaque sigil]

oh nice

okay nvm not nice that doesn't work

[olive sable]

bwaa

i added it only recently

[opaque sigil]

did you push it?

[olive sable]

wait

fuk fuck fuck

nooooo

well lets see if i even commited it in the firstplace

lemme hop over to linuxx

[opaque sigil]

hmm i only get 6k with llvmpipe

[olive sable]

Set threads to 1 pr 2

[amber fractal]

Alright, sanity check shows that I did in fact do it correctly

[olive sable]

The ones for llvmpipe i mean

[amber fractal]

I honestly question how this functions but

[opaque sigil]

how would one do that (i'm too lazy to check)

[olive sable]

LP_NUM_THREADS=1 make run -j ARGS="--use-llvmpipe"

except i havent added the last part yet

[opaque sigil]

ah now it jumped to 24k

still nowhere near the dgpu

[amber fractal]

                const int BATCHED_FRAMES = 4;

                while (running)
                {
                    vkQueueSubmit2(deviceManager.graphicsQueue, BATCHED_FRAMES, &submitInfo[currentFrame], VK_NULL_HANDLE);
                    for (int i = 0; i < BATCHED_FRAMES-1; ++i) {
                    vkQueuePresentKHR(deviceManager.presentQueue, &presentInfo[currentFrame]);
                    currentFrame++;
                    }
                    vkQueuePresentKHR(deviceManager.presentQueue, &presentInfo[currentFrame]);
                    currentFrame = (currentFrame + 1) % MAX_FRAMES_IN_FLIGHT;
                    frameCount+=BATCHED_FRAMES;
                }
            });
        }

I'm gonna be 100% I have no effing idea how the presents are not erroring. (I'm looking at you batch sumbit)

[olive sable]

how do i merge thsi shit?

[opaque sigil]

git merge

[olive sable]

okay

[opaque sigil]

i find it interesting how 7x7 and 200x200 have the same performance, i guess it cares more about the fact that there's something to render than how much

[olive sable]

i know some of the gui buttons but none of the commands

[olive sable]

on gpu's resolution doesnt matter

on cpu it does in my experience

the scene is so simple that the gpu has more than enough parallellism left to account for the extra pixels

[opaque sigil]

Mhm

[olive sable]

especialy since we have a grand total of 3 vertices

numlock

[opaque sigil]

poor cpu is NOT happy

epilepsy warning i suppose

[olive sable]

Yep those are race conditions

Im pretty sure mine is also doing that but its too small to see

Lemme up the res

[opaque sigil]

how would you have race conditions with a single thread

[true hemlock]

oopsies

[olive sable]

No prob

[olive sable]

Its not a single thread tho

Llvmpipe uses a diffrent thread to do the software rendering afaik

Mine also does it

The red to black isnt fast enough for the 180hz so i just het a darker red

[opaque sigil]

it looks kinda nice when it's smol, just call it a feature

[olive sable]

The things we do for 47K fps

This is barely a render