programming

[worldly panther]

genuinely impressive

[glad path]

why is is literally impossible to install nmap 😭

i get compile errors

and the executable installer literally doesnt even download (the link for it does nothing)

and its not officially on homebrew

actually i think it might be

[worldly panther]

whats your os?

[olive sable]

i would like to present to the esteemed members of #programming
18153 FPS

at this point, it is not possible to go faster on this pc without extra overclocking

i have done it all

i can actually say that now

[opaque wharf]

Nope. You should still be able to get more

[olive sable]

litterely impossible

[opaque wharf]

Go raw asm and skip hyprland

[jagged turtle]

[olive sable]

the only way to potentialy do that is raw machine code

[tight tinsel]

any suggestions on other ways to design 3d models for a 3d printer?

Tinkercad works but it feels very clunky

[opaque wharf]

Btw Sam, you're going to college right? Time to learn TeX or typst

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Blender

If you need CAD, then onshape provide a free tier

Fusion360 too

[olive sable]

let me be clear, this is the most terrible code ive ever written.
thread-safety? in this house we do thread-slavery.
race conditions? you just gotta catch up bro.

making sure the gpu is ready with the previous frame has been thrown out of the window

[midnight sigil]

how fast is your clockspeed on 100%

[olive sable]

ive seen 4.68 at the highest

at idle it did 5.14 cuz i forced max performance, kinda scary

[midnight sigil]

I have faster clockspeed

[olive sable]

which would mean it would probably run faster on your pc

besides the fact i locked it to core 1 and 2 cuz those were the fastest

[opaque wharf]

It doesn't work like that

There are more things in life than clock speed

Unless you have the exact same CPU model

[olive sable]

does your GPU support 7 frames in flight tho? cuz thats how much i ended up making it do

and the amount of framebuffers is that + 1 so a grand total of 8

ussualy a game does 2, maybe 3

[olive sable]

in this case it is mostly the clock speed

maybe ram for the vulkan stuff, but i cant really see that

i just see core 1, which is the renderthread, doing 99%, and core 3, which is unallocated so probably something vulkan picked, doing 89%

[midnight sigil]

WHAT?! I thought clockspeed is everything

this is doomed

[olive sable]

most of the renderthread has been commented out. at the cost of "potential race conditions" with the gpu

i aint waiting on those fences

[midnight sigil]

bro trying to max out the cpu on a fucking triangle

[olive sable]

tbh

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

i think an igpu might actually be faster on this since its closerby

the gpu is doing jackshit anyways

im getting 40% usage max so the ps5's apu should be able to still handle it

[midnight sigil]

:O

cpu's with an igpu tend to have a slower clockspeed no?

[olive sable]

idk

[midnight sigil]

cuz power has to supply the igpu instead of cpu cores

[olive sable]

i think potentially the high cpu usage might be the cpu just checking if the gpu is finally done

lemme profile this shit

[midnight sigil]

gpu bottleneck

[olive sable]

wait my profiler is in windows

uh

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

not even gpu, just bus speed

or bus latency?

latency is probably more acurate

[bitter coral]

I’m trying to do some work on my art program but there’s a cat on the desk in front of my monitor, a cat trying to sleep on my shoulder and a cat that tried to sit on my lap.

[midnight sigil]

make a vulkan program that directly call hardwares, instead of using the OS as middleman, so it's way way faster

[olive sable]

idk how

[midnight sigil]

cars

[olive sable]

im already using the volk libe for extra performance

dynamically loads entrypoints

[midnight sigil]

stop trying to get 2 million fps or something

plz

I beg you

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

but vani said 1 neurillion

[midnight sigil]

are you gonna buy liquid hydrogen to attempt world record overclocking and run your little triangle program

[olive sable]

no i dont think i will

this isnt the right cpu to do that anyways

[midnight sigil]

can you do overhead frames on other performance cores

[olive sable]

uhhh

hmm

lemme try something completely stupid

[amber fractal]

Might as well do them on the E cores if they exist as well

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

i have 16 full cores here

[amber fractal]

:waiting:

[midnight sigil]

maxing out efficient cores is crazy

mad insane

[amber fractal]

Could do frame buffer

don't question how you get the log numbers

[midnight sigil]

it's not making a game engine anymore, it's having as many fps as possible

from now on, make a new branch, and don't care about extendability but only fps

[olive sable]

while most studios focus on making games as fast as possible

here at bwaa studios we focus on making frames as fast as possible

[amber fractal]

*slow

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

depends on how you interpret the frase lol

[midnight sigil]

do you have a repo for your code

I'm interested in vulkan

[olive sable]

i meant pushing them oput of the slop machine

with fast

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

its private but i can make it unlic

or can you share private prepos still?

cuz tbh this would not look good on my cv

[amber fractal]

Learning how to minmax mhm

[amber fractal]

Maybe?

[midnight sigil]

nope

[amber fractal]

Also I want to try running as well on my system

it would be funny

[midnight sigil]

unless you share your github tokens

[midnight sigil]

just don't include it in your cv

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

one branch for the actual game engine and one for the funny

[amber fractal]

I need one of these commit messages to be "The autism has hit critical speed"

[midnight sigil]

sure companies won't care about your little dev branch

[amber fractal]

Surely, they also won't care about the people forking for even greater gains

[olive sable]

https://github.com/samvanmaele/very-fast-but-very-bad-code-vulkan

[amber fractal]

[midnight sigil]

it means your project is popular for sure

[midnight sigil]

is this the actual name you gave for the repo or you changed it

[olive sable]

it used to be called "desktop" cuz thats the folder its in on my linux

[midnight sigil]

[amber fractal]

[midnight sigil]

the commit message is just "18K fps"

[olive sable]

yep

[amber fractal]

-#

[olive sable]

oh i forgot i did that profraw thing

its in there too now

idk what it actually does but i googled stuff to make the vulkan faster and that supposedly does something

dont ask me what tho

[midnight sigil]

can dlss work with 20k fps

[olive sable]

idk

[midnight sigil]

super sampling a triangle

[amber fractal]

Maybe FSR can if you can force enable it

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

lets start at, how do we get dlss on here, and wouldnt the overhead of using it make it worse?

[amber fractal]

It's at least public now

I expect a leaderboard soon

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

the sam vulkan triangle challange

fastes system wins

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

i expect quack to pull some threaripper pro max ultra 16900kxdx5D OC out of his dealer to win

[midnight sigil]

we should limit to a certain clockspeed

[opaque wharf]

Threadripper is bad for single core performance tho

[midnight sigil]

and thread counts

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

not if you render with all the cores

vulkan should supposedly support that

[bitter coral]

The cats are finally leaving, but I have stuff to do now so I still can’t work on the art program.

[midnight sigil]

aren't you doing the rendering on gpu

[olive sable]

yes

[opaque wharf]

Then invite the cat back

[midnight sigil]

this is extremely limited on bus speed ngl

[amber fractal]

Add your submission to the leaderboard

[olive sable]

but you need cpu cores to send commands to the gpu and stuff

vulkan can supposedly do that async and stuff with multiple cores

[midnight sigil]

one with smallest motherboard wins

[amber fractal]

Testing on laptop

[midnight sigil]

pcie slots right next to the cpu

[olive sable]

place your pcie slot in the cpu

[bitter coral]

But what is this leaderboard for?

[midnight sigil]

make the program small enough to run on L1 cache so we don't even need ram

[amber fractal]

Wait a second, let me ask my sibling to borrow a Legion GO rq

[olive sable]

oh ye, the makefile has a "make debug" option. i completly removed all of that functionality

why? i cant remember tbh, somethign to do with me removing the runtime errors

[midnight sigil]

who needs debug if we have brains

[olive sable]

-fno-exceptions

that thing

[amber fractal]

Hardware aquired

[olive sable]

the compiled project rn 161,600 bytes. shouldnt that already fit inside L1 cache?

[bitter coral]

There’s still the cat that was on my shoulder, he’s on my lap now. He got lonely for being locked away from me for a few hours today so now he’s clingy.

[olive sable]

oh nah, its split into the seperate 16 cores. i only have 64KB per core

if we want it to fit inside L1 we need to find a cpu with more L1 or just nuke more than half the filesize

[midnight sigil]

oh I always have that on

[olive sable]

thats fine as long as you dont need to throw anything

[amber fractal]

I'll be taking the windows debuff

[midnight sigil]

cuz without it makes my std lib on msvc buggy

[olive sable]

what

[midnight sigil]

yuh

microsoft shenanigans

[olive sable]

someone should bring your std lib to a hospital

oh ye i remember now why i remved debug

//if (enableValidationLayers && !debugManager.checkValidationLayerSupport(validationLayers)) throw std::runtime_error("validation layers requested, but not available!");
this line has an if with a throw

[amber fractal]

git isn't installed :RAGEY:

[olive sable]

and no runtime errors means they cut of my arms, no throwing

i could just keep the function and not throw, but it kinda feels like having a debug defeats the point of removing all the excepts

ok enough yapping

[amber fractal]

@olive sable I may be blindge but what deps are being used here

[olive sable]

volk, sdl2, and vulkan

that should be all besides the standart included libs

[amber fractal]

Time to fast track how to properly set up a dev enviroment

[olive sable]

i wonder if i could jsut make another renderthread

it will probably immediatly crash since its usign the same recources as the first thred, but it would be interesting

[amber fractal]

Just don't write

[olive sable]

yep, immediate core dump

lets ask chatgpt since i cant be bothere to google how to properly do this

[amber fractal]

chatgpt: "dont"

[olive sable]

Short answer: you’re overwriting a live std::thread with another one. That triggers std::terminate() immediately — hence the crash — and even if it didn’t, having two threads both drive the same swapchain/semaphores/fences is invalid and races like crazy.

and races like crazy.

https://tenor.com/view/snow-drift-gif-10727704

i am somewhat of a racer myself you see

[hoary lion]

racer

f1 mentioned

[olive sable]

instead of racing myself i make my code race

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/max-verstappen-f1-formule-1-gif-15087359750872636720

you know who is faster than your code?

[olive sable]

max verstappen

[hoary lion]

that took a while to answer

but 👍

[olive sable]

i was typing something else first but ye

"stappen" is dutch for walking, and "ver" is mostly used to signify an increase/intensifying

so his last name litteraly says "gotta go fast"

[hoary lion]

i mean

he is

what an amazing name

[olive sable]

ver can also be used negativly but we wont talk about that

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

We love clang errors

I'm guessing I still need deps first

[olive sable]

ok i figured out while vulkan allows parallellization for a lot of things.
one window → one surface → one swapchain, so only 1 core is allowed to ask for the actual swapchain submiting

[olive sable]

ther emight be some deps i forgot about, idk

it might also just be my makefile beig set up for linux

[amber fractal]

I just need to figure out how to install deps

I'm already running git bash for make at least

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

what this does mean, is that for VR, you could use a seperate core per eye, and one for the window on your monitor

but since im not doing that rn im sadly limited to 1

hmmmmmmmm
if i make 16 windows, and each one has their own 18k, could i call that 16*18K fps?

[amber fractal]

Up to the judges

[olive sable]

that doesnt really count does it

its not in the spirit of the challenge imo

[patent walrus]

genuine intel

[olive sable]

hi vani

[patent walrus]

glad to know its not like, fake intel

[amber fractal]

Hey @true hemlock
I have another benchmark for you

[olive sable]

vani, im not at 1 neurmillion fps, but i have reached 18153 fps

[true hemlock]

im not bound by NDA so

[patent walrus]

suspicious intel

[amber fractal]

we love make (e=2): The system cannot find the file specified.

[true hemlock]

?

[olive sable]

oh thats either clang not being installed, or it cant find the shaders

its probably fine to use gcc tho

[amber fractal]

Probably need clang yep

[olive sable]

actually i wonder if gcc might be faster

[amber fractal]

Sam released the max fps on a triange and I'm making a leaderboard

[amber fractal]

.

[olive sable]

my pb is 18153 fps, apparently we're making this a leaderboard

i could put it inside a readme.md file

[true hemlock]

gonna try lol

[midnight sigil]

#programming is getting weirder and weirder, I swear

[true hemlock]

what's the leaderboard rn

[amber fractal]

Just sam

[olive sable]

leaderboard

sam - 18153 fps: linux CachyOs, 5950x, rtx3090

[midnight sigil]

Sam at 18153fps

[olive sable]

im not gonna gitpush yet since its really pathethic to be the only one on a leaderboard

[amber fractal]

Add OS

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Not the first time

[midnight sigil]

I'm the top, the first and only

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

approx this week im building @umbral thorn a pc with a 7950x so she can also tag along

[olive sable]

that already has better single core than my 5950x, i wont be 1st for long

[amber fractal]

clang please

install

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

wait is there any dependencies im missing lmao

[olive sable]

you should just need vulkan, volk and sdl2

[amber fractal]

Nope, it is not found for some reason

[true hemlock]

ah aight

[amber fractal]

I see the exe

it is not being added into path

[olive sable]

you might need some windows specific stuff in the makefil

[amber fractal]

Maybe, but I at least need to get it to error in the first place

[olive sable]

-lvulkan might need to become vulkan-1on windows

[amber fractal]

Finally, dep error

[true hemlock]

might just try later because i might need to go soon though lmao

[midnight sigil]

https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/goodbye-github/

[amber fractal]

Now I can again suffer with deps

[true hemlock]

or maybe if there's precompiled build for it

[olive sable]

idk how to releease builds

but if you're on linux

[true hemlock]

nope my 13900 system is on windows lol

[olive sable]

well shit

[true hemlock]

wait does the rendering support multi threadding

[olive sable]

kinda

[true hemlock]

might wanna try on my threadripper aswell, its on linux

[olive sable]

we use a total of 2 cores

[true hemlock]

damn nvm then

[midnight sigil]

[amber fractal]

Prediction suceeded

[midnight sigil]

"We support multithreading, with grand total of 2 cores." sounds funny

[true hemlock]

was gonna say i wanna try on my epyc 9655 aswell but damn

[olive sable]

i wish i could use multiple cores for rendering, but the thing that takes up 95% of the rendertime is only allowed to run on a single core

[true hemlock]

happens

an idea though

make the whole shader run on AVX

so, no gpu

[olive sable]

vulkan is a lot better for multithreading than any other graphics api, but specifically the swapchain is only 1 per window

[hollow spruce]

How is your pc build ?
Day @true hemlock

[midnight sigil]

so the world record now is 0.0550873ms per frame

[hollow spruce]

Update ure bios
(Most risky work)

[olive sable]

oh ye i kinda hardcoded the cpu cores it uses since that was the fastes on my pc. it should use core 1 and 2

starting at 0

[true hemlock]

this is pretty beneficial for intel aswell cough e cores cough

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

wdym

vibin

[hollow spruce]

Intel i9 like something processor
LGA 1700 socket

[olive sable]

its fine

[true hemlock]

its an engineering sample, duh

so it'll show up as that

[olive sable]

"duh" so rude

but ye he's joking if you cant tell

[hollow spruce]

One minor problem
(Neutral mixed line wire )
I will fix BYe

[jagged turtle]

here's the part where github descends in quality

[olive sable]

18153 fps is 0.05508ms per frame

thats crazy

55µs

[true hemlock]

elvyn's 7950x is also engineering sample btw

[midnight sigil]

[true hemlock]

might not perform as good as retail ones but

got it for cheap hey

[olive sable]

i wonder who keeps killing engineers and looting their samples

[true hemlock]

ya ask?

[midnight sigil]

gg microsoft is going to push 100+ worst integrations with their products now

[olive sable]

its a rare drop too so he must really be farming them

[true hemlock]

[jagged turtle]

they're gonna push microsoft copilot-level quality of features into there

[amber fractal]

Okay, I think I'm far too dumb to get this working.

[olive sable]

make sure you link with -lvulkan-1 for windows

that 1 is important for some reason

[midnight sigil]

does it work with wsl

[amber fractal]

I can't even figure out how to get the libs to link

[true hemlock]

should probably release a precompiled build if you wanted server wide leaderboard

[olive sable]

probably

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

this is my linux build

totaly non-suspicious file

[amber fractal]

Virus (real)

[umbral thorn]

[true hemlock]

mods

his pc

[olive sable]

mods its a file

i swear

[amber fractal]

It's just a flavor of archive

[midnight sigil]

157.77kb is crazy

[olive sable]

its small-ish

[midnight sigil]

what did you pack in

[olive sable]

doesnt fit in L1, but probably does fit in L2

well uh... main.o vk_frames.o vk_command.o vk_device.o vk_sync.o

[amber fractal]

Where is a usb, I'm loading up an iso

[olive sable]

and volk + sdl

[amber fractal]

Requirements are live env

as not mine

[midnight sigil]

does static linking increase execution speed

[olive sable]

doe sit?

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

hmmm

[midnight sigil]

doe sit

[olive sable]

Static linking produces a larger executable file than dynamic linking because it has to compile all of the library code directly into the executable. The benefit is a reduction in overhead from no longer having to call functions from a library, and anywhere from somewhat to noticeably faster load times.

it might

[true hemlock]

it should fit in my L2 though

2MB L2 per core

[olive sable]

i have 512kb per core, less but also fits

if i use static linking it will increase in size tho

[true hemlock]

only 36MB L3 for the whole chip lmao compared to 5950x 64MB

[midnight sigil]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4667882/is-a-statically-linked-executable-faster-than-a-dynamically-linked-executable

The speed difference will be nearly imperceptible

so it does

we're talking about 0.05ms here

[amber fractal]

Any speed benifit is a benifit

[true hemlock]

dynamic linking adds a bit overhead, of course

[olive sable]

"nearly imperceptible" maybe if you're a plebian running at sub-1000fps. but here every microsecond counts

[midnight sigil]

my L1 cache is 80KB per core

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

something something i9 14th?

but yeah even if you scaled it down to 80kb it probably still won't fit lol, other processes still takes the cache

[midnight sigil]

i7 14700f

[true hemlock]

it definitely will fit any L3 though

[midnight sigil]

make an operating system that only renders a triangle

[true hemlock]

which is more than enough

[amber fractal]

I find random cpu before this drive

[midnight sigil]

if they can make games under 1kb, so can us

[olive sable]

i doubt most games under 1kb used vulkan tho

[maiden geyser]

by using two cores instead of one, you decrease the load per core by 50%
by using three instead of two, 16.(6)%

[true hemlock]

what

[olive sable]

the math is worng but i get what he means

[maiden geyser]

but it isn't

[true hemlock]

ah yes

[olive sable]

isnt it 33% per core then?

if you split it right down the midle

[amber fractal]

m.2 rocket drive will have to do

[midnight sigil]

https://hackaday.io/contest/18215-the-1kb-challenge

they made a standalone brainfuck computer

[olive sable]

anywas here im just using 1 core for handling the swapchain, since that is the only thing i cant multithread about vulkan, and another core for handling the rest. that 2nd core only reaches about 6% on my pc tho

[midnight sigil]

should we allow custom hardware and shit or it's limited to modifying the original code, and has to be on vulkan

[amber fractal]

So we need that core to be pegged at swapchain then

[true hemlock]

yeah time to build my own ASIC with 1kb cache

[olive sable]

im fine with custom hardware, but i hope nobody here starts amking a core 2 due powered by the sun

only 2 cores, but 5 bilion GHZ

[opaque wharf]

I will do it

[olive sable]

you'd need 3 cores probably tho

[true hemlock]

in theory you can make an ASIC with really simple pipeline and make it clock like crazy

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

The theoretical speed limit for a computer clock is limited by the speed of light

[midnight sigil]

rush to ibm and borrow those quantum computers, and the fps will be infinite since it's undefinable

[olive sable]

we've talked about putting the rendering on the cpu, but most of the time is spent submitting and presenting the rendered image. so why not put the program on the gpu?

[true hemlock]

on point but not exactly applicable for per pipeline

[opaque wharf]

I know. Just talking theoretical

[midnight sigil]

that would require the whole os to be on gpu as well. It has been done but it's kinda buggy and slow iirc

[true hemlock]

people seriously figured out to use a line of pipeline component in a streaming way

[amber fractal]

Are we allowed FPGA that renders the exact output?

[olive sable]

ok new idea, considering the theory of relativity, instead of rendering more frames per second, just make time for the pc faster than for us.
send the pc through space at 99% the speed of light and the fps will be billions

[true hemlock]

despite a core being relatively large and seem pretty impossible to reach high clock speed if compared to lightspeed, people fuckin made component queue system to maximize pipeline throughput

[olive sable]

if you use vulkan

[midnight sigil]

but it's the fps on our perspective, the fps in the computer remains the same

[olive sable]

hmm

[midnight sigil]

science starts with stupidity fr

[olive sable]

we need to core that renders to be going at lightspeed compared to the core that measures the time and fps

[midnight sigil]

hitting trees with stones gone hard

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

LMAO

[opaque wharf]

Quick mafhs shows that a light travelling a planck distance would need 5.39124645 × 10^-44s. Double that and we round it to 1*10^-43

[olive sable]

im thinking of a small particle acceleratpr with a core going through it and a core in the centre

[midnight sigil]

bus speed limit goes real

[opaque wharf]

The maximum theoretical clock will have the speed of 10^43 Hz

[olive sable]

shit shit shit

hmm

quantum tunneling

fuck it

entagnlement

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

entengle both sides of the pcie bus

[midnight sigil]

just do quantum computer at this point

[olive sable]

instant data transfer

[true hemlock]

if we can somehow make planck size computers lol

[olive sable]

i like how we were taking this seriously at first and now we're just doing sci-fi shit

[opaque wharf]

Be the change you want to see in the world!

[midnight sigil]

wait for 100 years so we have commercial quantum computing available

[true hemlock]

i've kept really thinking of the possibility of this ngl

not only you have practically zero latency

[opaque wharf]

You still need to send a signal for when the computation is done

[midnight sigil]

Portal ahh thoughts

[true hemlock]

you can do practically infinite size of memory aswell

[opaque wharf]

No, the latency will still be limited by the speed of light

[true hemlock]

infinite sized L1 cache

imagine

[opaque wharf]

But the bandwidth is limited by how many qubit you can cram

[midnight sigil]

information travels faster than speed of light

[olive sable]

the speed of light is a large enough limit imo

[opaque wharf]

It's not

[midnight sigil]

information as in quantum mechanics

[true hemlock]

you can have insane bandwidth too if you figured out a signal encoding that works with quantum entanglement

[olive sable]

299 792 458 m/s. idk how to convert that to bits per second but im pretty sure a couple million bits fit inside a meter

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, as I said, the latency is limited by the signal that always need to travel by the speed of light. But the bandwidth is limited by how many qubit you can cram

[amber fractal]

I was always wondering if one day we can have entangled storage rather than compute

[true hemlock]

quantum entanglement is instantaneous..

[amber fractal]

That'd require a FS that can handle race conditions tho

[opaque wharf]

10^43 Hz is the limit

[opaque wharf]

I know. But how do you know when to observe and collapse the state?

Entanglement can help ease the bandwidth

But not with the signal speed

[midnight sigil]

oh nuu I took a look at my motherboard and it broke my pc

[true hemlock]

i just need the ddr5

[olive sable]

pro series

[true hemlock]

and maybe an AIO

[olive sable]

that metal is really chunky

[true hemlock]

im tempted to get the 2x64gb dimms

[maiden geyser]

where are the armoured ram slots

[true hemlock]

but im broke so might get 2x32, then get 2x64 later and use the 2x32 for my own pc lol

my pc is still on ddr4

[opaque wharf]

Quantum things just reminds me of how bad Vedal play Outer Wilds

[midnight sigil]

that's a big southbridge

[true hemlock]

kinda wanna sell and get X870e but well

its fine

[olive sable]

e

[maiden geyser]

so, there are no restriction towards ram, registers, register sizes and X3D cache? just the ROM?

[amber fractal]

Manually typing the url goes hard

At least it downloaded

[true hemlock]

imagine if the size limit is 1GB

epyc 9684X owners be winning

[amber fractal]

Failed to create vulkan instance my beloved

[maiden geyser]

1gb limit is non-limit, you can just pop a cd game

[south whale]

i just need the mobo

my current mobo nottlebecking my cpu and ram

[true hemlock]

specs?

[flint dome]

random question: why is it every time i do a ctf challenge i always get a massive headache while doing it

this only happens then

[unkempt citrus]

Thats because youre thinking

its a very dangerous activity

you should leave it for trained professionals

[south whale]

r5 3600, 3600mhz ram

like i have NEVER seen my cpu boost higher than ~4.05ghz and ram is at 2933

[flint dome]

shit, i didnt know, thanks dawg 👍 won't use my brain from today ownards

[unkempt citrus]

Thats the spirit

[true hemlock]

probably not enabled expo
cpu clock isn't board dependent unless if the vrm is shit. what's the motherboard?

[south whale]

enabled

mobo is asus a320m-r

hold on

[midnight sigil]

it's called Tention Headache

[true hemlock]

you can try checking the power draw on the cpu under load

[midnight sigil]

[amber fractal]

@olive sable We love errors on the binary

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

cachyos because yes

[olive sable]

i completely removed error handling and such so makes sense

this is my most "works on my pc" ah code so far

[amber fractal]

Some vector error, can't create larger than max size

[olive sable]

ah

in the common structs headerfile

try to lower the amount of frames in flight

[amber fractal]

bwaa

[olive sable]

i put it at 7 cuz a latency of 7 frames is unnoticable at 18000fps, and its gave me an extra 100 fps

but on laptops its probably not supported

[amber fractal]

Here I was using the binary so I didn't have to compile

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

i def should linux my briefcase just for this fr fr

[olive sable]

this one has 3

[amber fractal]

Time to type another url into firefox yippie

[solid bough]

It’s usually that they modulate the fuel amount

[amber fractal]

Wait, there is a flash drive next to me

[olive sable]

wasnt the last one 160kb. how is this one now 77?

[amber fractal]

I'm very stupid sometimes

[solid bough]

Why not Safari?

[amber fractal]

Show me a linux port

[olive sable]

are you serious? safari?

not having a linux port is not event he problem for me

i just dont understand why you'd use safari

[solid bough]

Yes, but it hasn’t gotten updates as far I know, I have it installed and it’s hella old

[solid bough]

You can always use wine

[amber fractal]

Safari for windows is already cursed

by concept alone

[olive sable]

the none-iphone safari versions all suck, every single one. even for mac its ridled with bugs

[solid bough]

Well, Safari doesn’t receive updates as far I see

[olive sable]

just dont use safari

firefox is fine

[solid bough]

I use Google Chrome some times

[olive sable]

chrome is okay

[solid bough]

Actually it’s my main

[midnight sigil]

safari is crazy

[solid bough]

I got these browsers installed: IE11, Microsoft Edge, Google Chrome, Safari

I was doing that from memory, so I might have missed a few

[amber fractal]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[midnight sigil]

I use curl and render websites with my brain

[amber fractal]

It still crashed with the same error

[olive sable]

[solid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-tadc-digital-circus-urgh-gif-6511608730878394108

[olive sable]

does it give a location or?

[amber fractal]

Nyope

[olive sable]

bwaa

[midnight sigil]

bwaa

[amber fractal]

I at least have selected GPU console text

[midnight sigil]

[amber fractal]

The window flashes for half a second

never draws

[midnight sigil]

something about the main loop I see

can you hook a debugger on it

[solid bough]

Well, the part I’m always wondering with is if my PC starts when the startup screen freezes

First try: nope

[olive sable]

the window gets created at the very start, so it could be anything vulkan related

[solid bough]

I meant if it does this

Because for some odd reason my pc does this

And another boot fail

[amber fractal]

Shame that this is live usb

so I'll have to re set it up

[solid bough]

Damn

[olive sable]

if the 18K fps version isnt working, the 16K fps version is the first commit into the repo

and that one does have fully intact debug

[amber fractal]

I think we need it

I humbly request to not compile it

[olive sable]

fine lmao

[solid bough]

Sam, I think you need to debug english.lang

[olive sable]

nah

not my problem

[solid bough]

Oh wait, I forgot everyone stores languages differently in their head

[amber fractal]

I beg on my knees to not have to suffer tonight for a meme

[solid bough]

And this time a crash mids OS runtime???

should I just reinstall the OS?

[olive sable]

i just need to figure out how to compiel an old commit in vscode

[solid bough]

but it’s kind of odd that’s just since I installed my new ram kit that the issues appeared

But oddly, it is only on start up

[amber fractal]

Best bet seems to be pull down a copy and revert a commit

[solid bough]

Honestly, I’m not really into compiling C++ Code

[olive sable]

try this?

[amber fractal]

Debug info version!

[solid bough]

Finally it started

[bitter coral]

If the issue only started because of new ram then I kinda doubt it’s an os issue.

[solid bough]

Dance reliability score. Dance:

[hollow spruce]

Ure safe

[amber fractal]

Large window, still fails

[midnight sigil]

why is it smaller than the previous executable you sent

[amber fractal]

Lovely

[olive sable]

bwaa

[midnight sigil]

this one with virus?

[olive sable]

older version, idk

[midnight sigil]

100kb less

[olive sable]

the window starting means sdl works

oh ye for debug version you probably need the vulkan sdk

[hollow spruce]

"=> Network management is gone <="

[solid bough]

Anyways, Back to that.

I have IE11, Microsoft Edge, Google Chrome, Brave, Firefox

@olive sable

[amber fractal]

I'll check that and if I'm stupid I'm stupid

[midnight sigil]

install opera gx as well

[solid bough]

Oh that is just something on Windows that tells how reliable the PC was lately. Idk why it counted my Vacation days though

[midnight sigil]

and all chinese browsers

[olive sable]

bro is a collector

you only need one lmao

[hollow spruce]

Windows saying updates 10 pro to 11
Constant

[amber fractal]

vivaldi

[midnight sigil]

IE11 the goat

[solid bough]

Well, I used to have another one that was from someone else too, But Idk where it is

[solid bough]

Meh, I'll take my sweet time

[amber fractal]

Wait, this one is a runtime error

[solid bough]

Now I'm going the *.zip search

[olive sable]

uhh

[hollow spruce]

ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

[hollow spruce]

NOMAL for me

[olive sable]

if the debug works it should probably give decent description ofhte issue

oh

for that is hould probably compile for debug

im stupid

[hollow spruce]

Let me do crut ure file

~ $ curl get https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1406554862430453840/vulkan?ex=68a2e3cb&is=68a1924b&hm=758c9bff6a494d087fabf00c0b33ee73c1c541f06bab8fd2e865317fc6a4e5c3&
[1] 12756
[2] 12757
[3] 12758
[2] Done is=68a1924b
~ $ curl: (6) Could not resolve host: get
curl: (7) Failed to connect to cdn.discordapp.com port 443 after 5172 ms: Could not connect to server

[solid bough]

I lost that Browser... Anyways

[olive sable]

debug build

yay

i should probably stop sending random files here

the mods might getmad

[olive sable]

@amber fractal try this one

[amber fractal]

got it

[solid bough]

But these browsers I don't trust: Opera GX and Opera

[hollow spruce]

Chromium is suck

[solid bough]

Sure?

[solid bough]

May you enlighten my why?

[hollow spruce]

Let me reinstall chromium

[amber fractal]

wha, huh

[solid bough]

But... I got Safari:

[amber fractal]

How is it a file open error

[olive sable]

the only files its opening are the shader files

[amber fractal]

wait

[olive sable]

which should jsut be in a folder named shaders

[amber fractal]

let me fetch those then

[olive sable]

you only need to spv's

[sage crag]

erf

[olive sable]

hi konii

[solid bough]

Good morning

[amber fractal]

It's a triangle yippie

[sage crag]

helo

[amber fractal]

3k is not correct because this is still on battery for some reason

[olive sable]

if the full game ran at 3K on battery id be more than happy

even 1k is fine actually

[opaque wharf]

1 fps lmao

[sage crag]

better than 0.5

[olive sable]

too late, i edited my message before you replied

[opaque wharf]

At that point we should change the metric to spf

[amber fractal]

4k seems like where this ends, but these render layers geez

[hollow spruce]

I HAD one problem
(I'm always limited by data
First' conver
(Txt to json )
I can put txt as data

[olive sable]

i live my 18000 fps spf

[amber fractal]

IT WAS NO SHADERS THE WHOLE TIME

[olive sable]

without debug layers it shoudl do +50%

so mayhaps 6k fps

[amber fractal]

1 and 2 are the worst

[hollow spruce]

I need to change to a new pcb byb
(Then login computer)
Then work ai task
Training

[amber fractal]

somehow

[olive sable]

hmmm

so the ones that run better for me?

i didnt manage to static link vulkan or sdl2 or volk so far, but i managed to static link SDL3

lemme try that

[stark needle]

hi

[olive sable]

Hello

[amber fractal]

I'm first testing if the power limit is set correctly

Hi Shad

[hollow spruce]

Still pcb is not available

Bye i come back 5 mintus
Still finding pcb in my electrition shop

[solid bough]

Did… someone say… LAYERS???

Mmmmm, coffee

[amber fractal]

Alright, going through the executables in order

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

because I found a method to actually see the fps

[olive sable]

I got volk to staticly link now too. And vulkan just cant be staticky linked byt that should not cause any overhead due to volk

Im not gonna put that on git yet tho

[glad path]

Is the homebrew version of nmap official

[sage crag]

vulkan can be statically linked if you want to link all of mesa

[amber fractal]

1. 26600
2. 26400
3. 3750
4. 3750

Starting up spike which I'm not counting was 28000

[opaque wharf]

For the love of all that is holy, do not do this lmao

[sage crag]

100mb binary

[olive sable]

Im not gona do it manually

[olive sable]

28000fps???

[sage crag]

nice screenshot

[amber fractal]

Didn't want to fps drop

[olive sable]

Laptop gpu's must be better for this with the lower latency to gpu then

[amber fractal]

Nah this is the Legion GO

Both powerful gpu and on die

[sage crag]

its probably a combination of bandwidth and latency

[olive sable]

Ok so 26377 fps on legion go

[sage crag]

want me to run it on my igpu?

[olive sable]

Sure

If you can get it to run

[amber fractal]

Make sure to grab shaders

[sage crag]

from where

[amber fractal]

because man was that fun not being bundled

[olive sable]

Uhhh. The code automatically chooses dedicated gpu ig you have one

Hmm

Either go into the code and make that +1000 points negative, or disable your gpu

[sage crag]

i do not have a dgpu

[olive sable]

Ah

Then its fine

[sage crag]

where code or where binary

need one or the other

[olive sable]

https://github.com/samvanmaele/very-fast-but-very-bad-code-vulkan

[sage crag]

nice one

[olive sable]

Ye that was an oepsie

Im sure its fine

[solid bough]

{"isFine":false}

[sage crag]

the joy of setting up a dev environment

[olive sable]

[solid bough]

Should I do an env on Python?

[amber fractal]

leaderboard

Sam - 18153 fps: linux CachyOs, 5950x, rtx3090
Iggly - 30573 fps: linux CachyOs, Z1 Extreme, AMD Phoenix (intergrated)

Strange, when I'm not pulling up the kde overview the fps number starts with a 3

[sage crag]

obviously

not that i have the same thing as you, im using nixos

[amber fractal]

let me install a waybar rq

[solid bough]

Well, I didn't do that. I just do pip install <Package>

[amber fractal]

It's not a wayland session frick

[solid bough]

Q: Does it really need to be Wayland?

[sage crag]

it permanently alters your environment

[maiden geyser]

i like how the only copy of that image left for me is a telegram embed of the discord link

[solid bough]

Yeah, that my code can run?

[amber fractal]

@olive sable I'm changing my submission

[sage crag]

but if you want to run any other code

it will have poisoned that environment

[solid bough]

Okay, how so?

[sage crag]

[solid bough]

Because the code imports the packages. Not installing any

[sage crag]

your use of italics is very annoying

[solid bough]

-# Disabled Italics 👍

[sage crag]

anyway, say you had two different projects that used the same dependency, but required different versions

[solid bough]

Oh yeah. I'm not making more than my Text Converter.

[solid bough]

By the way, I was trying to make the actions that happen in italics

[midnight sigil]

you should make an external program that reads the fps in memory, and take the max(and average maybe) fps in 10s duration

or else it's not accurate

[sage crag]

nix-shell -p gnumake clang volk vulkan-volk vulkan-headers vulkan-loader SDL2 glm lld
@olive sable is there anything else im supposed to need

because running make just dies

[solid bough]

Well, Italics is now off.

[amber fractal]

We are already using the title bar, memory probing could work if we can even implement it

Not sure if SDL will allow editing the title from not main thread, I'd imagine that has already been done tho

[amber fractal]

At this point, floating point errors are more of a concern as well

[amber fractal]

If this ends up working eventually, send me a copy. I want to do it on my main system as well.

Also grab a bar because KDE cuts off the text

[solid bough]

Oh and Sorry konii for annoying you with Italics, May I sparingly use Italics when it fits?

[amber fractal]

and the overview being enabled reduces fps by a lot

-# note to self, 41k covered up by another window

[solid bough]

That is certainly interesting

[midnight sigil]

nix-shell

gnumake

clang

[opaque wharf]

Apparently, it's Sam who dies now

[solid bough]

Do you forgive me konii?

[opaque wharf]

No

- konii, probably

[solid bough]

Oh nooo, I turned off italics in the way I write and some times the raw output of how I format text comes through when trying to use italics

Brb

[midnight sigil]

italics italics italics

[solid bough]

What’s I mean is that when I try to use italics right now it appears as [italics]this[italics end]

[midnight sigil]

I think italics are okay, as long as they are used properly. With the above case, it's probably a no.

[solid bough]

I thought I was using italics right…

[solid bough]

And I mean on actions like that

[solid bough]

Is konii gonna be mad if I start using italics again?

[midnight sigil]

not if you use it correctly

[rough bloom]

iGPU go fast
dGPU only did ~20k (probably doesn't help that display output and compositing currently goes through the iGPU)

[midnight sigil]

[solid bough]

-# Enabled italics 👍

[midnight sigil]

what if no gpu at all

[rough bloom]

I accidentally tested that too

~5k

[midnight sigil]

so it is faster

:O

[solid bough]

How do you accidentally test it?

I was swiping the words

[rough bloom]

messed up the GPU scoring function enough that it chose the software renderer

[sage crag]

erf

[rough bloom]

@sage crag @amber fractal flake

{
  description = "Description for the project";

  inputs = {
    devenv-root = {
      url = "file+file:///dev/null";
      flake = false;
    };
    flake-parts.url = "github:hercules-ci/flake-parts";
    nixpkgs.url = "github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos-25.05";
    devenv.url = "github:cachix/devenv";
  };

  outputs = inputs@{ flake-parts, devenv-root, ... }:
    flake-parts.lib.mkFlake { inherit inputs; } {
      imports = [
        inputs.devenv.flakeModule
      ];
      systems = [ "x86_64-linux" "i686-linux" "x86_64-darwin" "aarch64-linux" "aarch64-darwin" ];

      perSystem = { config, self', inputs', pkgs, system, ... }: {
        devenv.shells.default = {
          name = "my-project";

          packages = with pkgs; [
            vulkan-headers
            vulkan-volk
            SDL2
            glm
            lld
          ];

          stdenv = pkgs.clangStdenv;

          enterShell = ''
            export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$EXTRA_LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
          '';

          env.EXTRA_LD_LIBRARY_PATH = pkgs.lib.makeLibraryPath (with pkgs; [ SDL2 gcc-unwrapped.lib ]);
        };

      };
      flake = {};
    };
}

doesn't include the Vulkan loader because that's not required anymore, remove -lvulkan from the LDFLAGS in the Makefile

[sage crag]

flakes

i hate flakes

[midnight sigil]

do I have to use nixos

[sage crag]

please dont

i do not recommend nixos for real people

fake people only

[midnight sigil]

are you fake

fake tv

[sage crag]

im literally a tv

[midnight sigil]

so real tv

[sage crag]

[rough bloom]

a classic nix shell with shell.nix or something probably works, idk just make sure it uses the clang stdenv, it makes stuff easier
I use flakes because it's convenient to do nix flake init -t github:cachix/devenv#flake-parts

[sage crag]

mabe its just me who thinks flakes are unnecessarily complex and verbose

[rough bloom]

I can see unnecessarily verbose but not complex
their structure is really simple, you have a list of inputs that get mapped to an output attrset through a function, that's pretty much it

[nocturne olive]

Now I wonder what would happen if the thing decided to run on my 3090 which has no display attached to it and runs on a x4 chipset slot

[sage crag]

comparatively to a shell.nix file

[rough bloom]

true, though those also do a lot less

[tender river]

please add experimental-features to systemwide nix.settings
(also nix-shell isnt a flake-related command so it wasnt needed here anyway)

[tender river]

why use devenv and flake-parts

[rough bloom]

because it's convenient to do nix flake init -t github:cachix/devenv#flake-parts

[tender river]

[tender river]

if you require a single non-nixpkgs input its generally easier to do a flake
(or if you require multiple outputs)

[sage crag]

i did after this, also it was needed here i dont know why

[tender river]

{
  inputs.nixpkgs.url = "github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos-unstable";
  outputs = { nixpkgs }: {
    devShells = nixpkgs.lib.genAttrs [ "x86_64-linux" "x86_64-darwin" "aarch64-linux" "aarch64-darwin" ] (system: let
      pkgs = import nixpkgs { inherit system; };
    in {
      default = pkgs.mkShell.override { stdenv = pkgs.clangStdenv; } {
        buildInputs = with pkgs; [
          vulkan-headers
          vulkan-volk
          SDL2
          glm
          lld
        ];
        shellhook = ''
          export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$EXTRA_LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
        '';
        env.EXTRA_LD_LIBRARY_PATH = nixpkgs.lib.makeLibraryPath (with pkgs; [ SDL2 gcc-unwrapped.lib ]);
      };
    };
  };
}

[tender river]

computers bad

[sage crag]

puter

awawa

[tender river]

also i agree with konii shell.nix would've been better here

you could still use flakes using import ./shell.nix { ... } in flake code

born to watch horse anime forced to read horse blog https://ngnghm.github.io/index.html

[maiden geyser]

epic naming

[rough bloom]

yeah I get it, a flake is way overkill for this use case of just bringing a few packages into the environment
it's purely because I kinda standardized on this for everything

[tender river]

please at least add flake-compat for non-flake users for what you release publicly

https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/flake-compat

[rough bloom]

public flakes are different, ye

[sage crag]

{ pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }:
pkgs.mkShell rec {
  buildInputs = with pkgs; [
    lld
    clang
    gcc-unwrapped

    glm
    SDL2

    vulkan-volk
    vulkan-loader
    vulkan-headers
  ];
  stdenv = pkgs.clangStdenv;
  shellHook = ''
    export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${pkgs.lib.makeLibraryPath buildInputs}:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  '';
}

this works

9k

[tender river]

lld/clang/gcc-unwrapped should go to nativeBuildInputs, also stdenv = pkgs.clangStdenv doe nothing, you have to mkShell.override { stdenv = pkgs.clangStdenv; } { ... } instead

[sage crag]

{ pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }:
pkgs.mkShell rec {
  nativeBuildInputs = with pkgs; [
    lld
    clang
    gcc-unwrapped
  ];
  buildInputs = with pkgs; [
    glm
    SDL2

    vulkan-volk
    vulkan-loader
    vulkan-headers
  ];
  shellHook = ''
    export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${pkgs.lib.makeLibraryPath buildInputs}:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  '';
}

also works

i dont like the LD_LIBRARY_PATH here

gross

[tender river]

i hate how i have to do it with rust sometimes too

the compiler just expects the library to be there without setting rpath

[sage crag]

pkg-config

[tender river]

nix dynamic linking is just static linking but with a separate file

mhm

[sage crag]

"nix dynamic linking"

[tender river]

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/run/current-system/sw/lib

[sage crag]

protip never add emscripten to nativeBuildInputs

[tender river]

emscripten heavy

[sage crag]

emscripten needs a diet

actually this is more useful

why on earth do you need nodejs and openjdk

[true hemlock]

oh you got it to work?

[opaque sigil]

Apparently they use a closure compiler for optimising size

[sage crag]

add me, konii - 8894 fps: linux NixOS, 7600, amd raphael (integrated)

[opaque wharf]

Now I wonder how I'll fare with lucienne

[sage crag]

your cpu is worse than mine why is it beating me by 22k fps

[opaque wharf]

He has a secret compile sauce

By turning the in-flight frame up to 7

[sage crag]

https://howmanyfps.com/processors/comparisons/ryzen-z1-extreme-vs-ryzen-5-7600

[opaque wharf]

Oh, I thought that was a reply to Sam

[true hemlock]

wait how did you guys got it to work

[sage crag]

https://technical.city/en/video/Radeon-Graphics-Ryzen-7000-vs-Radeon-780M
that's why

[sage crag]

do you use nix?

[solid bough]

Did you convert from float16 to int?

[true hemlock]

damn nix

[solid bough]

Wait

ugh, too late

[sage crag]

shell.nix

{ pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }:
pkgs.mkShell rec {
  nativeBuildInputs = with pkgs; [
    lld
    clang
    gcc-unwrapped
  ];
  buildInputs = with pkgs; [
    glm
    SDL2

    vulkan-volk
    vulkan-loader
    vulkan-headers
  ];
  shellHook = ''
    export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${pkgs.lib.makeLibraryPath buildInputs}:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  '';
}

you can try and replicate this on windows or whatever if you want

[sage crag]

what do you mean?

[solid bough]

Well, I was reading it as 8.893 FPS... So I was thinking you rounded up.

[sage crag]

it doesnt really have anything to do with converting from float16 to int

i did rounding to reasonably close number

[rough bloom]

Shuni - 27158 fps: Linux NixOS, 7950X, AMD Raphael (integrated)

[solid bough]

It was sort of a attempt to make a coding joke...

[sage crag]

excuse me

are you running it with make run

[rough bloom]

no

[solid bough]

[sage crag]

how are you running it

[rough bloom]

./output/release/vulkan

[sage crag]

[nix-shell:~/code/very-fast-but-very-bad-code-vulkan]$ ./output/release/vulkan
Selected GPU: llvmpipe (LLVM 19.1.7, 256 bits)

llvmpipe

did i need to add mesa

[rough bloom]

I adjusted the GPU selection code to favor the iGPU over the software renderer

[sage crag]

git diff?

[rough bloom]

diff --git a/src/vk_device.cpp b/src/vk_device.cpp
index 1a4d126..e973df0 100755
--- a/src/vk_device.cpp
+++ b/src/vk_device.cpp
@@ -101,7 +101,7 @@ int DeviceManager::rateDeviceSuitability(VkPhysicalDevice physicalDevice)
     VkPhysicalDeviceFeatures deviceFeatures;
     vkGetPhysicalDeviceFeatures(physicalDevice, &deviceFeatures);

-    if (deviceProperties.deviceType == VK_PHYSICAL_DEVICE_TYPE_DISCRETE_GPU) score += 1000;
+    if (deviceProperties.deviceType == VK_PHYSICAL_DEVICE_TYPE_INTEGRATED_GPU) score += 1000;
     score += deviceProperties.limits.maxImageDimension2D;

     return score;

will also make it use the iGPU over the dGPU

[solid bough]

Hmm... Should I run Minecraft that the rendering runs on the CPU too? (Just for fun by the way)

[sage crag]

my editor counts this all as trailing whitespace because its a dos format file

funny

[solid bough]

And I re-iterate: it is just for kicks n giggles

[rough bloom]

Sam disabled auto CRLF conversion?

[sage crag]

this is a minor improvement

[solid bough]

oooo, What GPU btw?

[sage crag]

read

[sage crag]

[solid bough]

okay (that may take a while)

[nocturne olive]

Can I has thing to test? And how do I test it on Linux Mint?

[sage crag]

gamemoderun output/release/vulkan

@rough bloom try running it with gamemode

[maiden geyser]

neuro stream starting not at 1 am???

https://tenor.com/view/huh-whar-erm-whar-confused-cat-huh-what-gif-4052880542927116908

[sage crag]

programs.gamemode = {
    enable = true;
    enableRenice = true;

    settings = {
      general = {
        renice = 10;
        softrealtime = true;
        # may break things
        igpu_desiredgov = "performance";
        igpu_power_threshold = -1;
      };
      
      # danger
      gpu = {
        apply_gpu_optimisations = "accept-responsibility";
        gpu_device = 0;
        amd_performance_level = "high";
      };
    };
  };

here's how i have it in my configuration.nix

[solid bough]

Damn, and all that from the AGP of the CPU

[nocturne olive]

How do I get on funny leaderboard?

[rough bloom]

makes no difference, probably because I haven't configured it at all (and probably won't because I don't think I need it)
also it's slower now because I have more stuff open in the background

[sage crag]

git clone https://github.com/samvanmaele/very-fast-but-very-bad-code-vulkan

[sage crag]

well, its more likely that kde's power profiles are messing with it

[rough bloom]

just opening YouTube or something dropped it from ~28k to ~20k earlier

[sage crag]

probably upower or ppd

i have 30 librewolf tabs open atm

[rough bloom]

30

[tender river]

[nocturne olive]

And now what do I need to do in order to build it?

[rough bloom]

I use Hyprland and have no power management daemon or anything like that enabled, unless it comes default with NixOS/systemd

[tender river]

i use system76-scheduler

but it has no sway integration so i wrote it myself

[sage crag]

sudo apt update
sudo apt install -y clang gcc lld libglm-dev libsdl2-dev libvulkan-dev vulkan-utils libvolk-dev
make run

probably this

[sage crag]

isnt this for CFS

[solid bough]

Hmmm, I have Internet Explorer 11, Microsoft Edge, Google Chrome, Safari, Brave and Firefox, What browser (except anything opera) do I miss?

[opaque wharf]

Wait, the stream is now?

I didn't see the schedule lmao

[solid bough]

Yeah, it was said at #announcements

[rough bloom]

early strim because Japan time

[solid bough]

Oh.

[opaque wharf]

Neuro will never be as perfect as Evil

[sage crag]

why am i also using cfs

im using the xanmod kernel

[solid bough]

Should I get Twitch Turbo?

[sage crag]

Packages: 1387 (nix-system)

[true hemlock]

bruh lol

yeah im getting nix

[sage crag]

rip

[solid bough]

For some reason my head switched to DE_DE (aka German) on the last word...

By the way, Hi 🦆

[sage crag]

why tohugh

[tender river]

so i can use my computer while i compile stuff

[sage crag]

could use ananicy

[nocturne olive]

What is this meant to mean?

[solid bough]

I somehow misread it while glancing

[tender river]

erm

are you sure ananicy is a good idea

[sage crag]

ananicy-cpp

[tender river]

[sage crag]

no one uses the python one

[solid bough]

Hello chayleaf

[nocturne olive]

It's definitely not building

[sage crag]

in the makefile remove this underlined red part

[rough bloom]

ancient clang version because Mint
disable profile-guided optimization like konii said and try again

[sage crag]

the fact that cachyos doesnt use system76-scheduler makes me believe its not strictly super useful

[sage crag]

exit your terminal and open it again

[nocturne olive]

Did not work

[sage crag]

erm

well, this is awkward

[sage crag]

you did sudo apt install -y clang gcc lld libglm-dev libsdl2-dev libvulkan-dev vulkan-utils libvolk-dev right

try sudo apt install -y libvulkan-volk-dev

[nocturne olive]

I installed some modules manually but I believe they should be installed

[nocturne olive]

Nope

Same error

[sage crag]

uhhh

[opaque sigil]

konii do you have the shell.nix

[opaque sigil]

sick, thanks

[rough bloom]

if you can't get the system provided package to work then you can try putting #define VOLK_IMPLEMENTATION at the start of src/main.cpp
then remove -lvulkan -lvolk from the LDFLAGS in the Makefile

[nocturne olive]

That made it more broken