programming

[opaque wharf]

If it is there, then just type reboot

If after rebooting it still doesn't work, then Imma dip. I suggest reinstall

[olive sable]

Oh my days im in windows again

[opaque wharf]

Did it work?

We cannot make threads here btw

[sage crag]

he's dead

[opaque wharf]

Killed by linux installation

[desert plaza]

[olive sable]

No

[desert plaza]

i just spilled water on my keyboard again

[sage crag]

nvidia

wahoo

[opaque wharf]

Chay, you lied

[tender river]

assassinated by torvalds himself for using nvidia

i would never lie

[sage crag]

now you can actually blame hyprland

great docs guys good job

[tender river]

try some other things in there https://wiki.hypr.land/Nvidia/

or

just go with plasma

[sage crag]

yeah this is all they say

its not helpful for cachy since its done by default

[opaque wharf]

Even the docs italicize it lmao

It _should_ work now.

[sage crag]

@olive sable may i interest you in a working linux desktop

[olive sable]

Uh

Not yet

[tender river]

if you want to go barebones theres also sway but you will have to set up your own media keys, screen locker, screen turning off on a timeout, etc (this may or may not also be true for hyprland i've never used it and dont really plan to)

i have no idea how the default sway install from cachyos is gonna look too

anyway plasma is the safe option

[opaque wharf]

I also forgot that the last resort of installing KDE doesn't actually require you to reinstall. It's just the path of least resistance

[tender river]

also plasma is the only option that gives you push to talk in discord

[sage crag]

reinstalling would be better

[tender river]

so theres another argument for plasma

well, anything x11 would also do that but x11 isnt what the cool kids use

[olive sable]

Surely i have

[sage crag]

cachyos installs it for you

nvidia-dkms

you do not need linux-cachyos-nvidia

[tender river]

i wouldnt recommend switching des without reinstalling on anything other than nixos

[sage crag]

it might be fine on most immutable distros

[opaque wharf]

On raw arch it is fine

[tender river]

probably fine on silverblue

[opaque wharf]

But ye, cachy will probably need that repo

[tender river]

you will usually stay with some packages you forgot to delete

its "fine" in the sense that it will work but it will be worse than if you just reinstalled

[opaque wharf]

How bad can it be when you need gtk from version 2-4 anyway for different GNOME app on KDE

[tender river]

category theory has cooked my brain

[tender river]

i was reading a paper and thought "coparents" meant the inverse relation to parent so children

[sage crag]

coordinate

[tender river]

it took me a second reread a month later and some more thinking to realize it just means "parents" as well

[sage crag]

konii

corn on the cob

[tender river]

going back to the arborescent garbage collection paper because it might be useful for whatever i'm doing with the new erf, i want 100% determinism in a parallel setting which means i need to have all objects form a total order, and since i also want to allow reference equality checks it means that an object's order must not only depend on its contents but also on which objects contain it

[opaque wharf]

Btw what is the recommended spell checker?

Nuspell?

Aspell?

[sage crag]

uhh

brain

[tender river]

i only know hunspell

[opaque wharf]

Arch wiki said nuspell is the modern alternative to hunspell

It does support the hunspell dictionary too

[tender river]

i only have spell checking in librewolf

which uses hunspell dicts but not hunspell

[opaque wharf]

I did have hunspell installed too

Oh it is from libreoffice

hunspell it is

[tender river]

and if you say "chayleaf what are you doing " you're right

[sage crag]

garbog colect

[tender river]

cooking

whatever is the inverse to oking mhm

[olive sable]

Ok do uh

I just launched hyperland manually and it worked

[tender river]

then we know that its cachyos's fault

[sage crag]

i wonder when you will crack from keybind usage

[opaque wharf]

Sure, let me make sure my code is understandable by Hercules

[ancient hatch]

yay i know why i learned that

do they have latin

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[ancient hatch]

i have to install it

[olive sable]

Having 2Gb of ram usage, windows could never

[ancient hatch]

with de its cool

i have like 3 gb rn

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1043904104637944028/1124170339375657031/essaying.gif

holy essaying

[ancient hatch]

wheres lolcat?

[opaque wharf]

Would you prefer I screenshot this?

[sage crag]

yes

[ancient hatch]

yes

[sage crag]

infinitely

[ancient hatch]

cz it shorter

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

[sage crag]

or you know just send a link

that works too

[ancient hatch]

but i haven't this perm yet

[opaque wharf]

Anyway, it's just VSCode extension https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=streetsidesoftware.code-spell-checker

[ancient hatch]

bruh chrome eats more than os

[desert plaza]

naturally

[opaque wharf]

Eat what? Pasta?

[ancient hatch]

yeah Pasta alla Randome Accesso Memorie

[sage crag]

bwanyanya

[olive sable]

Printscreen makes the screen brighter, and the effect stacks

[opaque wharf]

The keymap must've mapped those to increase brightness

[olive sable]

Its just full white now

[opaque wharf]

[ancient hatch]

bruh chrome with one empty tab eats 1 gb less than os

[sage crag]

i dont know why this is surprising

[olive sable]

I doubt it has something to do with brightness, since esc makes it normal again

[opaque wharf]

If its any answer, chrome and firefox each has larger code base than Linux kernel with every firmware

[sage crag]

a web browser and an os have completely different tasks

[ancient hatch]

like... what it could be doing with 2 gb of ram

[sage crag]

what is an OS doing with 2gb of ram?

[ancient hatch]

chrome!

os eats 3

[sage crag]

you completely missed the point

[opaque wharf]

You should ask someone who uses hyprland then

[sage crag]

if you dont know why chrome or an os are using an amount of ram, then its baseless to compare them

[amber fractal]

hyprland moment

[ancient hatch]

i know what os can do with 3 gbs of ram but what can chrome with only one tab doing

[sage crag]

this is actually untrue, linux is about 40 million lines in 2025

[opaque wharf]

The kernel?

[olive sable]

It is actually just a screenshot button, but it stacks

[amber fractal]

I just switched off hyprland

[amber fractal]

Select your screen :xdx:

[olive sable]

How do i open apps btw?

[opaque wharf]

Is the 40Million including comment?

[amber fractal]

People normally grab a launcher like wofi

[olive sable]

Hmm

[desert plaza]

or just launch from terminal

[opaque wharf]

Because according to this site, firefox still has 44 million

[amber fractal]

bind that to a key (do bind a terminal button)

[olive sable]

Ok ye but how do i get in the terminal

[tender river]

read the wiki

[olive sable]

Fair enough

[desert plaza]

consult the docs

[uneven pulsar]

extract information from the informative resource

[amber fractal]

Default should be Meta+K, as long as you bothered to install kitty first

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

Otherwise switch to a diffrent tty and install kitty

[tender river]

(it may be a useless answer but like you sign up for reading the second you decide not to use a de)

[olive sable]

Nah its a fair answer

[amber fractal]

Seconded

also lots of config files

[tender river]

if you see the meta/super key mentioned its the windows key

[olive sable]

Out of pure habit i was pressing ctrl alt delete so i could lock and it obviously doesnt work

Suprised pickachu face

[amber fractal]

We love setting up your own binds

[opaque wharf]

Isn't lock usually just windows + L

[olive sable]

Apparently so

[sage crag]

or alacritty, ghostty, wezterm

awa

[opaque wharf]

le konsole

[amber fractal]

True, hyprland just has kitty as default in the config

[amber fractal]

Still always have it as a backup

[sage crag]

konsole would want qt6

though ghostty would probably want gtk4 so

hm

[opaque wharf]

I am mad that KDE doesn't name it kalkulator

Which is the ID word for calculator

[amber fractal]

I know Sam using prismlauncher which is also qt, so its going to be downloaded one way or another

[desert plaza]

kalkulator is norwegian

[amber fractal]

If bottles is ever used then there is gtk. Your gonna install toolkits one way or another

[tender river]

doesnt bottles prefer flatpak installs

which has a separate gtk

[amber fractal]

I seem to remember that after the whole fedora packaging outdated version thing

[olive sable]

I installed kitty

I think

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

Then it wasnt yet

Win + k stil doesnt do anything

[amber fractal]

I'm blind

It's win + q

[sage crag]

Meta + Q

or is it Super + Q

[amber fractal]

https://github.com/hyprwm/Hyprland/blob/main/example/hyprland.conf

[sage crag]

i never remember

[amber fractal]

Meta I believe is mod2

Super is mod4 aka Windows key

[opaque wharf]

Huh? Isn't bottle just a wine prefix manager?

[amber fractal]

I slipped it up myself earlier

[opaque wharf]

Oh, I see what you mean

[amber fractal]

Every frontend acts differently so makes sense why one would want to make sure it is controlled

[olive sable]

Not that either

But i just added a keybind manually

[amber fractal]

Classic

It should hotreload so your good

[olive sable]

Ok now i can fix my monitors being wrongly ordered hopefully

[amber fractal]

Wmonitors works as a GUI but eats far too much resources. (I should not have my laptop be a jet engine when only having one additional screen with it open)

Haven't bothered to find a replacement as I've worked on scripting it, plus laptop

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I may consider going back to hyprland, but I want to grab a few plugins first

[olive sable]

Numlock being off by default keeps throwing me off

[amber fractal]

I've majorly switched to scrolling / stacking layout. So that'll be fun

[torpid coral]

(For some reason, I can't attach the image, so I just attach part the console output)
I think something is wrong...

Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -0.00221625
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -0.000852643
Error: -nan(ind)
Error: -0.000109243
Error: -nan(ind)


Choose:

TestCircleI[0]
TestCircleII[1]
TestSquareI[2]
TestSquareII[3]
TestTriangleI[4]
TestTriangleII[5]

3

 Test figure ->

 ## ##
   # #
 #   #
 #   #
 #   #
 ### #
   #
CIRCLE: 100%
SQURE: 100%
TRIANGLE: 100%

NeuralNetwork say it's triangle...

It's false

Сan someone tell where I should dig?
I've already tried some debugging (checking normalization, input data and others), but i want to hear advice or potential solutions to the problem...

[olive sable]

hello

i have discord now on the linux

i use arch linux btw

[desert plaza]

erm u mean cachyos

[olive sable]

doesnt have the same ring to it

[desert plaza]

pretty sure they use the same rings

[amber fractal]

I am held hostage by nix

Seems like I might be able to switch back to hyprland, I think I found what I needed to make it work hopefully.

I miss individual window capture for discord

[opaque sigil]

I have a slight suspicion my GPU is not particularly happy with me forcing it to hibernate

[olive sable]

[solar furnace]

it looks like it wants to die

[opaque sigil]

a lil bit

[amber fractal]

I've only had this happen once, and it was on hyprland with a nvidia 500? class eGPU (don't ask)

[olive sable]

in trying to fix the monitors being out of order, i now have a cursor on each screen

interesting

[amber fractal]

I think your overlapping monitors

[olive sable]

very possible

i forgot to set the offset

im assuming vscode wont work here?

[sage crag]

vscode works

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

for microsoft vscode, do paru -S visual-studio-code-bin

for oss vscode, do paru -S code

and for microsft free vscode, do paru -S vscodium

[olive sable]

uh

whats the diffrence?

[opaque sigil]

Extensions

[sage crag]

extensions, spyware, and random microsoft features

[olive sable]

hmm

normal vscode comes with spyware?

[sage crag]

vscode-bin and code both have optional telemetry that is opt-out

[olive sable]

fuck

[sage crag]

as for vscode-bin, its hard to verify if turning off telemetry turns off all telemetry or just some

vscodium has no telemetry but also some plugins dont exist or work, mostly ones made by microsoft

notably pylance linter for example

[rigid snow]

i go out of my way to ensure all of my software comes with spyware

vscode downloaded straight from microsoft

[green iron]

basedpyright was working great for me as a pylance alt

[olive sable]

any opinions on filemanagers?

[opaque wharf]

THEY HAVE PARU BY DEFAULT?

[tender river]

i use nnn but use thunar probably

[olive sable]

im tempted to go dolphin but idk

[tender river]

dolphin is not gonna work well i think

[amber fractal]

Nope, I don't even use one anymore

[tender river]

it requires qt theming

[olive sable]

hmm

ok

thunar it is

[warped narwhal]

Yeah prepare for about a gig of qt deps

[amber fractal]

real

[tender river]

dependencies arent the issue (though they are an issue)

[rigid snow]

jokes aside the telemetry collected by vscode isn't anything unusual, it's just regular ass stuff like crash reports and usage stats, using google services is 10000x worse

[tender river]

the issue is that dolphin is part of plasma and you will have to jump through hoops to make it work properly outside of plasma

[sage crag]

yes

[opaque wharf]

Btw sam, when using paru, be careful about the AUR

[sage crag]

yes, im already using it

similarly replacing c/c++ extension with clang extension

[opaque wharf]

In general, be careful when using AUR, but paru makes it a bit too convenient to forgot

[tender river]

oh i forgot i wanted to set up a shell alias vim=hx

[rigid snow]

vim=code

[olive sable]

idk what that is but ok

[sage crag]

this is what i did when trying to switch to flow instead of micro

[olive sable]

i like using pacman, the pacmen dowenload bar is cool

[sage crag]

the AUR is user submitted packages

[tender river]

for python lsp i use uuh whatever this is

[opaque wharf]

Arch User Repository, a place where anyone can submit any program to be executed on your computer

[rigid snow]

trust me you're going to use it a lot

[sage crag]

i hardly use it

[amber fractal]

We love virus

[sage crag]

i think the only thing i have from the aur on my machine is osu-lazer-tachyon-bin

[rigid snow]

i was telling sam

[opaque wharf]

Whenever possible, search the official repo first

[olive sable]

ooo

ok

[rigid snow]

but like, there's hardly anything useful in the official repos

[sage crag]

[amber fractal]

I respect the AUR, but I'm on NixOS so can't use it anyways

[olive sable]

its not seeing my usb drive now, lemme fix thunar

[rigid snow]

as far as obscure/proprietary software goes at least

[sage crag]

i think the aur is worse than nixpkgs anyway

[opaque wharf]

I have bottles, bun, informant, input-remapper, and stm32cubemx from the AUR

[rigid snow]

the aur is shit but it's better than not having it

it's something

[sage crag]

ill try nix the next time my system breaks

i might compile everything from src

[amber fractal]

We hope it takes a long time to break

[sage crag]

i think nix has that option

gentoo without having to suffer on gentoo

[tender river]

the problem is you're gonna have to recompile every time a transitive dependency changed (glibc changed? good luck; clang changed? good luck)

[amber fractal]

Yep, though most of the time you just have a cache

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

i genuinely think gentoo would be a better experience

[amber fractal]

👆

[sage crag]

ive used machines with gentoo many times but i always get too deep in the minimalism and optimisation rabbit hole

when im on arch i can pretend im minimal by runing modprobe-db every now and again

[opaque wharf]

Why even bother if you have beefy modern machine

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

for the art

[amber fractal]

/summon @nix-user

[opaque wharf]

Fair point

[sage crag]

tinkering is fun

[tender river]

im already here

[sage crag]

asidr from that i really dislike portage

a lot of gentoo strikes me as dated

plus the system is definitely not immutable by default, which is one of my main reasons for trying nix

[opaque wharf]

Oh so you've tried nix

[sage crag]

not yet

[tender river]

i tried guix once but the community is much smaller than nixos so it has less features and packages

[sage crag]

[tender river]

it also has some upsides over nix such as allowing you to just patch a library without rebuilding it if you want to

used for quickly patching .so files without forcing dependents to rebuild

[sage crag]

awa

/sbin/init

[tender river]

nixos is moving more and more towards systemd for ease of maintenance and i can understand it but its still a bit annoying

systemd-networkd over networking scripts, systemd-boot over grub, systemd initrd over classic scripted initrd

whatever, it's nothing i cant live with

[amber fractal]

I know you can at least disable systemd-networkd as I needed to in one of my setups. Also whichever one is for dhcp.

[olive sable]

i figured out screenshots... mostly

[tender river]

you can but relying on soft-deprecated features is not a good idea

[olive sable]

now tha ti think about it lets not post that

its probably clutering on mobile cuz of how big it is

[opaque wharf]

dhcpcd

Oh you meant systemd that handles dhcp

networkd has internal dhcp client

[amber fractal]

I did want to do some routing on virtual network devices (thunderbolt). And networkd did not allow for that when I checked.

So I just swapped in something else

That setup is going to be a pain if stuff does start to get depreciated.

[olive sable]

hmm. idk if i want my windows drives here

[opaque sigil]

btw you can just use them too

[tender river]

not if fast shutdown

/ hibernation

[opaque sigil]

Yeah don't do that

Actually

Doesn't that only apply to boot drives

[opaque wharf]

No, I think if for some godforsaken reason windows is holding a file captive on the FS it can wreak havoc

I think read only mode is safe tho

[olive sable]

anyways time to see if my code works first try or if i fucked everything up

oh

installing the dependencies would help

and the makefile should be updated to not use windows stuff

it does work

but im putting the fps counter in the window title normally, but this doesnt have that

do i just print it?

[opaque wharf]

On system with DE, they will show up normally on the title

[olive sable]

they?

DE?

[opaque sigil]

Desktop environments usually have title bars

[olive sable]

desktop environment????

ah

ok

[tender river]

you can display the window title if you use something like waybar

thats more configuration though

[olive sable]

its better than printing

fine

[tender river]

also -I/usr/include shouldnt normally be needed

as well as -L/usr/lib

[olive sable]

yep, it works without indeed

[amber fractal]

This was the reason I could still see FPS numbers on fullscreen, waybar on a different monitor

[opaque sigil]

turns out reading docs can help sometimes, who could've guessed

all i needed was hardware.nvidia.powerManagement.enable = true to fix the hibernation problems

[opaque wharf]

nvidia again

[opaque sigil]

i also baited myself halfway by accidentally removing all the non nvidia specific hibernation config so that took a couple tries to notice

[amber fractal]

Android has no software bugs

[opaque sigil]

You've used 4.42 GB of data

how dare you

[amber fractal]

The limit is set to 2 GB, though with an unlimited data plan there isn't much reason to have it atm.

[sage ibex]

I scratched my head all night and I don't think the program I envisioned will be feasible...

It would be too hard to run in realtime, not to mention the delay, but the chance of poor outcomes would be hard to oversight

[olive sable]

What is it you would like to make?

[olive sable]

seems like waybar was already there, now i have

[midnight sigil]

[sage ibex]

its hard to explain

but also I'm not sure if its a touchy subject

[olive sable]

uhh

[sage ibex]

(generative ai)

[olive sable]

oh thats fine

probably

just dont post it on facebook to scam old people

[sage ibex]

it was a idea for neuro specifically

[amber fractal]

waywaybar

[olive sable]

waaaaybaaaar

yall said i wouldnt like having to use key commands to do stuff, but so far this has been really nice

i dont know if i could daily drive this completely, but for coding it shoudl be fine

[amber fractal]

I always say it is a shift

[amber fractal]

Take your time, also fun fact

Win + 1-9 is also mapped on windows

[olive sable]

wdym?

[amber fractal]

It opens/focuses the 1st - 9th item in the taskbar

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

You can always make threads in #1336777692070023271 too if you want

[olive sable]

i didnt know that

i didnt even know hyprland did that

[amber fractal]

I learned out of reflex on a windows VM

Hitting Win + 1 and opened up file explorer

[olive sable]

hmmm

trying to take a screenshot doesnt pause the screen

so the fps drops while im trying to take a screenshot

[amber fractal]

That's hyprshot for you, it steals focus (closing popups)

I forget if there is an arg for focused screen

[olive sable]

image files dont have the image itself as thumbnail either

[amber fractal]

That's on the file manager

People were saying konsole, which has issues with being themed on not kde. But that one does have an image preview

[olive sable]

A package called tumbler is needed for thunar to automatically generate thumbnails. ah yes time to install tumbler (not the website???)

[amber fractal]

Ah yes

tumblr

[olive sable]

yep it owrks now

[amber fractal]

[hollow spruce]

[download] Got error: ("Connection broken: BrokenPipeError(32, 'Broken pipe')", BrokenPipeError(32, 'Broken pipe')).

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

pipe

https://tenor.com/view/metal-pipe-gggg-banger-godlike-gif-9885189804401680492

[amber fractal]

Someone send a evil pipes gif

[midnight sigil]

videi

[olive sable]

bro comes in here with his error message as if we're chatgpt on the case to solve the mystery

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-neuro-metal-pipe-eliv-pipes-neuro-sama-gif-14489888397101735539

[amber fractal]

Imagine discord self bot and it sent the error in chat

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

i did check if the user is real

and they seem real

i think

[opaque wharf]

???

[midnight sigil]

he's trying to scrap our chat for ai training purpose

[amber fractal]

2 months old

[opaque wharf]

Is it bot?

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

typing

[opaque wharf]

Give it 5 binute

[amber fractal]

mhm

[olive sable]

oh ye i forgot, i dont have audio on this rn

[hollow spruce]

Why i install model correct
Cuda 12.6

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'torch'

[opaque wharf]

Alright

[amber fractal]

[opaque wharf]

At least not bot lmao

[olive sable]

he is just here to vent about his error messages huh

[midnight sigil]

stdin

[amber fractal]

om

[midnight sigil]

in py

[olive sable]

i think you need to install torch

idk

it does seem like that is what the error message says

[amber fractal]

(You might also want to run the file instead of just python)

[hollow spruce]

I install correctly

[midnight sigil]

you pip install torch

[amber fractal]

Joke:
||pip install pytorch (real)||

Why does that look like a progress bar huh

[olive sable]

any program to edit images?

[amber fractal]

gimp mhm

[midnight sigil]

You tried to install “pytorch”. The package named for PyTorch is “torch”

[amber fractal]

gimp for editing, krita for drawing

[hollow spruce]

IT MY MISTAKE I INSTALL AS TAR.GZ fogot to extract

[midnight sigil]

...extract?

what did you even download

[amber fractal]

Not a virus, surely

could be github source

[midnight sigil]

did bro download a python venv

prepacked venv

[glass flower]

oh god.. i hate when programs do this. pytorch is wrong use torch instead.... why... did you not just autocorrect it then

[amber fractal]

pytorch is a separate package

for cybersec?

[hollow spruce]

curl -L https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu126 -o pytorch_cu126.tar.gz

[midnight sigil]

💀

[glass flower]

well. it shouldn't auto-correct every package.. but like the most popular ones would be best. so you don't get hit by typosquatting

[midnight sigil]

you download a wheel, as a wheel brother

[midnight sigil]

it's not auto-correct

there're two packages, one called pytorch, and one torch

[glass flower]

that... looks very wrong. why not just install it the way its described on the pytorch website?

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

someone published the "pytorch" package that prints a message to tell users install "torch" instead

[glass flower]

was that not a console output? i thought the "You tried to install “pytorch”. The package named for PyTorch is “torch”" was a console output that you mistakenly typed the wrong thing

[amber fractal]

floating point fps

[olive sable]

i didnt actually ping vani, idk if they'd enjoy that

[midnight sigil]

yea it's to avoid name collision issues, people can publish a malware package with that name and so it's preserved

[olive sable]

ye the frametime / amount of frames has to be done in floats or you get int devision errors
and converting back to int costs precious time

[midnight sigil]

just floor()

[olive sable]

also costs fps

[midnight sigil]

bro cares about fps on a triangle

let's see how much it impact

[hollow spruce]

It's working but somehow
I remove script folder

[olive sable]

well, we've gone from about 11180 fps to 15707 fps

i consider this an absolute win

[amber fractal]

When you convert to string just remove the last 3 chars

[midnight sigil]

do you mean the script folder under the venv

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

those decimals do actually work you know

they just happened to be 00 there

[hollow spruce]

Usually I USER source /root/script/bin/activate

Now it gone

[amber fractal]

-#

[hollow spruce]

I need whole re-start again

[olive sable]

I dont understand what you're doing but sure

[midnight sigil]

how much instructions do you need to convert float to int with SSE

like, what

tell your compiler to speed things up

[olive sable]

I made it display the full number now. Its 0000 a lot of the time, probably due to some funky dhit with the math

[olive sable]

I mean, when you're doing a certain function 15000 times per second, it does add up

[amber fractal]

We love floating point

[olive sable]

You can hear my pc lmao

I forgot it would have audio

[midnight sigil]

just vsync your triangle

[olive sable]

Never

This is 100x as fast as vsync now

Or well, i have 180hz gsync so a bit less, but still

[fast pagoda]

curl anything = immediately suss

[opaque sigil]

This is why I use wget

[midnight sigil]

curl is built-in for windows I think

we need to manually install wget

you can install wget via curl

[olive sable]

hmmm, opening the app without vscode throws an error.

[midnight sigil]

failed to open file!

[opaque sigil]

Are you running vscode with sudo perhaps

[olive sable]

I was trying to not have vscode open

I figured it out tho

You need to be in a specific location in the filetree

[opaque sigil]

Oh so bitten by relative paths?

[olive sable]

Ye

[gritty dust]

new pfp??

wild

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

ive had this one before

i have 3 pictures i just cycle through

[gritty dust]

ooo

so thats the third one I know i guess lol

[olive sable]

Its officialy the 2nd one, but the previous time i only used it anout a month

im cpu limited again

also how the fuck am i suppsoedly drawing 186W

????

i get that i turned on precision boost overdrive, but there is no reason to use double as much power as all cores use toghether on a 2-core workload

like that would mean its pusing 100W into core 17

im suprised its only at 57C with that much power going throuh it, noctua is a favorite for a reason i guess

[opaque sigil]

that's the gpu drawing the 186W

[olive sable]

is it?

ooooh

[opaque sigil]

yes

[olive sable]

that makes so much more sense

[nocturne olive]

BTOP spotted, you trying Linux?

[sage vale]

My best friend started learning coding in C sharp today and she is feeling really stressed. Anyone here have any good beginner resources?

[olive sable]

Yes

[olive sable]

Yt tutorials are ussualy fine for me

I havent done C# yet tho so idk

[nocturne olive]

!!

And as expected, Linux gives a healthy boost in performance

[olive sable]

"Healthy" nah that was a full 50% extra

[nocturne olive]

Linux is just superior in every way

[olive sable]

Amen

[nocturne olive]

What distro by the way?

[thorn salmon]

I wish your friend the best of luck c# isn't the easiest to work with and can stress out pros as well

[olive sable]

cashyos

[hollow spruce]

23103 pts/24 00:00:00 ps

[olive sable]

esteemed members of programming, i have added power stats to the waybar

this is actually so cool

[opaque wharf]

Sam has finally feel the power of linux

[olive sable]

the only thing i still need is bluetooth

[opaque wharf]

That would be bluedevil package IIRC

But then again, cachy may be different enough from arch

[olive sable]

the cpu power out readings were kinda troublesome since they didnt work out of the box, chatgpt told me to install zenpower nad to nuke k10temp. so i did and it works now

[hollow spruce]

Bro how ure cpu is not load

[olive sable]

linux

and i have a 5950x so 32 threads

[hollow spruce]

I have a question
Do u use a stable diffuser model in your pc ? Or chatgpt stem 120b

[olive sable]

i just use the web version of chatgpt?

[patent walrus]

NEEDS
MORE
FPS

[olive sable]

when will it stop vani

its never enough

[patent walrus]

1 NEURILLION FPS

[olive sable]

ohhh

oh no

[opaque wharf]

What is that in Betric?

[olive sable]

i dont think my pc clocks that fast

id have to get multiple fps with the same clock sycle

[opaque wharf]

We have yet to define betric for frequency too

[olive sable]

single instruction multiple frame

SIMF

oooooooooooohhhh

i jsut realized

with linux

[hollow spruce]

gpt-oss-120b

[olive sable]

i can use DTS for audio

this is beautifull

i must dualboot my laptop to linux now too

[opaque wharf]

The next step is skip dual booting altogether and run windows VM

If you don't need anti cheat that is

[olive sable]

we watch movies on that tv via usb drive legalyl obtained ways, but its kinda annoying to put everything on that and my laptop wouldnt do DTS via windows

so linux is the best solution

[olive sable]

i probably dont

but i do have school still

and they most likely will be expecting windows

[opaque wharf]

That's where the VM comes into play

[hollow spruce]

Linux version
Ubuntu,arch , Fedora

[olive sable]

i use cashyos

ive never tried the other ones, but this one is pretty nice so far

[hollow spruce]

Which one

[olive sable]

cachyos

[olive sable]

this menu, its gorgious

its the best thing ive seen this week

[hollow spruce]

Where is Dolby

[opaque sigil]

aren't half of those from dolby

[olive sable]

who cares about dolby

but i guess truehd would be dolby

ac3 is dolby digital

eac3 dolby digital +

[hollow spruce]

What bitrate support on your computer

[olive sable]

idk

[hollow spruce]

Test playing song on your computer

[olive sable]

isnt that mostly dependant on the receiver?

[hollow spruce]

Mine was 32bit/196000kps
Max

[olive sable]

im connected to bluetooth so i just get what my headset supports

iirc 24bit 44000khz

idk where you cans ee that tho

[hollow spruce]

My earphones were good
ief electrophoresis

[opaque sigil]

i love how the openrgb entry in the nixos wiki is just one snippet for turning off all supported rgb

[opaque wharf]

Bluetooth sink will always be limited by the bandwidth

[olive sable]

ye

in theory the most bandwith for audio in my pc is either the hdmi ports or usb-c 3.2 20gbps

but i doubt ill ever use that at my desk

[midnight sigil]

how does base stations establish stable connection even if I were to move at 220mph

[olive sable]

idk

[olive sable]

i do have to admit, the selector itself is annoying as hell. my headphones are at the bottom and scrolling throught the other audio devices makes the sliders move too

cuz the people that made this linux stuff decided scrolling should change the options???

[opaque sigil]

Specifically to mess with you

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

great answer

I rep with marked as best answer

[olive sable]

but ye really i dont know

i wouldnt be able to test it since i cant move tht fast

[hoary lion]

awa

[olive sable]

awa

[hoary lion]

daily awa time chat

[midnight sigil]

get on a plane or maglev trains

[fast pagoda]

is that a cachyOS background i smell

[olive sable]

it is

[fast pagoda]

oh i continued reading

based

cachygang

i deleted windows for cachy still have yet to regret it

[olive sable]

ill keep windows here for now

[opaque wharf]

Phased array

[fast pagoda]

the only thing i could see it being painful for is if i needed like adobe thankfully i do not

[olive sable]

im actually in windows rn to copy my firefox bookmarks and to look what ill bring over to cachy

[fast pagoda]

i just copied everything i could possibly ever want to keep to my storage volumes if it wasnt there already, thank god for keeping a separate OS drive

[opaque wharf]

You don't move the base station antenna but you can have multiple antenna that can form a beam in EMR

[olive sable]

ye i do
on my laptop at least for school

[fast pagoda]

riip

theoretically i could just set up a new windows partition if i really needed it for something because storage volume vs os volume = never worry about deleting the OS since it can just be reinstalled

[amber fractal]

I can only think of the one person using btrfs on windows and installing fortnite

[fast pagoda]

is that even possible

[amber fractal]

let me fetch a github issue rq

[fast pagoda]

i guess ive never tried to install windows on something that isn't ntfs or fat based

i just kinda figured it'd be like "no"

im gonna use bcachefs

that's my fs

[amber fractal]

https://github.com/maharmstone/btrfs/issues/738

[fast pagoda]

this is already beyond epic gaming just from the issue title holy

why though sir

just why

i didnt even know winbtrfs was a thing

people go out of their way to create configurations beyond comprehension

i guess you can't play forknife on linux because of some sort of anticheat issue?

only a positive in my book

ill say no thanks on the malware anticheat ty

[opaque wharf]

...what?

Wtf

[opaque wharf]

Correct

The funny thing is, now we are witnessing BF 6 EA malware fighting against Valorant Riot Games malware

[amber fractal]

Fight fight fight!

[opaque wharf]

As in, BF6 refuse to start if you have valorant anti cheat running

[fast pagoda]

"hey we've detected some shit with access it shouldn't have, not allowed"

makes sense

they should just initiate netbattles to resolve the conflict

[opaque wharf]

And valorant anti cheat is basically running at all times that you even need to restart your PC if you change some windows settings. Just to make sure that no cheat is running

[fast pagoda]

you must defeat bass.EXE to run battlefield 6

[fast pagoda]

yes it's untenable and i cannot believe anyone allows it on their pc willingly

[amber fractal]

Me when I'm swapping over to BF 6 because I wanted to take a break from Valorant to play with friends:

[fast pagoda]

remember the entire fuckin controversy with the sony rootkits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

this was a whole ass scandal

meanwhile valorant people willingly install something worse

[opaque wharf]

Truly. Genshin or whatever, also has similar rootkit. And then shit happened and that anti cheat becomes attack surface

Funny thing is, the game uninstaller didn't uninstall the anti cheat IIRC

[fast pagoda]

of course not

it probably can't

[opaque wharf]

So that attack vector is still looming

[fast pagoda]

because it's a goddamn virus

if there's one thing i know it's that i'll never play valorant
or league
or anything that uses anything similar to vanguard because i may be stupid but i'm not that stupid

riot games died the day they put that in

[jagged turtle]

the best attack vector will always be the human

[flint dome]

we are one shitty code push by some intern into having millions of pcs down

much like crowdstrike

[jagged turtle]

company vibecoders in a nutshell

[fast pagoda]

vibecoding: hehe
company endorsed vibecoding: sweet jesus christ no

[jagged turtle]

yes

[nocturne olive]

I use Mint Cinnamon myself

X11 or Wayland?

[fast pagoda]

most of the cachy built in DEs stick with X11 unless on Kwin set specifically to use wayland or on gnome which i think is only wayland at this point

at least that's how it was when i installed which was only a few weeks ago

im on wayland KDE without issues myself except for WezTerm having an instant crash if using fractional scaling

even cosmic defaulted to X11 when i first installed it

which i didnt even think was a thing (it might've just been XWayland and trolling me though)

[nocturne olive]

For me Wayland would not do the job, I need X11 specific stuff like X11VNC and Neurolings depends on some X11 exclusive APIs

[fast pagoda]

well your specific vnc thing was a waking nightmare

now i want to see if neurolings instabreaks (probably as ive not tried it)

wasnt there some much more up to date version of neurolings

last time i talked about it and mentioned the version on itch.io someone linked a more complete version (might have been you)

[hoary lion]

python ML is a nightmare w/out types

what am I looking at??

[nocturne olive]

The VNC part is actually really straight forward, the audio part is a slightly more scuffed setup but still fine

[fast pagoda]

not working ootb = waking nightmare

lol

[nocturne olive]

Python just sucks with its type system, it's terrible

[nocturne olive]

The VNC part basically does, I just connect with SSH, start the VNC server and connect with VNC

[fast pagoda]

i can't remember, was there some reason wayvnc didn't work and X11vnc was required

[fast pagoda]

just set everything to Any like a boss (and like me in days past )

[nocturne olive]

Cinammon's Wayland session is experimental anyway, so I don't really care

[fast pagoda]

turning typechecking on in python is a real fun wakeup call if you weren't already caring much about them especially since different typecheckers can have different interpretations about what's right and not

[fast pagoda]

i didnt even know about cinnamon wayland existing tbh

[nocturne olive]

It does exist as experimental

[fast pagoda]

whenever wayland gets around to being not experimental itself surely all the mainstream environments will have non-experimental wayland versions

will never happen though since they cant even agree on one(1) thing to add and if they do suddenly it's too similar to windows so some extremely sweaty contributor will come into the discussion and ruin the entire thing

[nocturne olive]

If Wayland wants my approval, it's gonna have to have dev-friendly feature parity and probably gonna have to stop accepting GNOME as a dictator

[fast pagoda]

because similar to anything else anyone else is doing == bad apparently

[noble zodiac]

Maybe when wayland gets a good documentation I will take a look at it again but its been like 10 years and I'm not holding my breath

[fast pagoda]

hey it's in a slightly better place than 10 years ago now

slightly

[hoary lion]

see regardless of that people should use types

cause yk

linter and ides

[fast pagoda]

mypy and pyre don't agree on what types are appropriate

[hoary lion]

i dont know what that is

i only use ruff

im full uv person

and apparently that is becoming the status quo

[fast pagoda]

ruff isn't a type checker though it's a formatter and linter

[hoary lion]

oh type checker, mb

actually i dont really use type checker

[fast pagoda]

Ty is a type checker

from astral

[hoary lion]

just linter would do fine but I'll check out maybe later

[fast pagoda]

https://github.com/astral-sh/ty

see that's the thing i ran into

only used ruff

and then i was like huh should probably turn on type checking

that would be smart

9001 type checker errors

[hoary lion]

[fast pagoda]

to be fair my issue was just being extremely lazy and having wayyyy to many Any floating around

so if you're actually, you know, setting a type that makes sense when you should

it maybe won't be that bad

but for the record ruff does not care and will let you do that

in case you were curious

[hoary lion]

i see

ill just live happily with ruff ig

[fast pagoda]

python runtime doesnt care about types at all so as long as she runs and you dont care about hhaving typing all over the place then

yolo

[opaque wharf]

I am lucky that the web now has Biome

[fast pagoda]

biome is nice

[olive sable]

i have wayland

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

Did you know Wayland does not have a concept of a main monitor?

[stark needle]

[nocturne olive]

And Wayland does not have global shortcuts

And Wayland does not have a standard API for checking the positions of windows

[amber fractal]

We love instantly going after wayland

I'm choosing to ignore the global shortcut solution that exists, primary monitor is an issue that desktops are handling somewhat, window positioning is definitely an issue (not so much on a tiler where it doesn't even make sense)

[nocturne olive]

The lack of a window position getting API alone is a big deal, as Neurolings kinda needs one

[amber fractal]

For actual existing solutions to shortcuts, depends on the DE/WM

[nocturne olive]

The fact so many things on Wayland are specific to the DE is quite a bad thing for developers and software compat

[rough bloom]

• global shortcuts are a thing, kind of (also compositor-specific I think?)
• basically nothing except Neurolings needs to have access to all window positions

[rough bloom]

good
main monitors are not even always a thing

[amber fractal]

Can confirm #1, I know Hyprland was first (how it beat Plasma is beyond me).

[amber fractal]

I will disagree with this one hard

Sure it may be split, but there is an order

[rough bloom]

Wayland also works in VR for example
wtf is a main monitor there

[amber fractal]

Let a protocol exist at least for desktop

[rough bloom]

I don't disagree that there could be a protocol for better window placement, but it's not part of the core for good reasons

[amber fractal]

I agree as well, I wish wayland actually moves forward with optional protocols instead of bikeshedding forever

main monitor also should be optional for desktop, but I'd very much prefer it to exist

[noble zodiac]

tbf, no one force you to use wayland. x11 is still out there

[amber fractal]

No one does, but I do want it to one day be a decent replacement

[noble zodiac]

and I might consider it if that fabled day will arrive at some point

[rough bloom]

the fact that I have a 144 Hz monitor does force me to use Wayland
X11 is broken with it

[faint sandal]

[noble zodiac]

thats exactly what I am using right now

[nocturne olive]

My X11 works fine with my 165Hz

[rough bloom]

specifically the fact that I'm using both a 144 Hz monitor and a secondary 60 Hz monitor
X11 was not built to handle that

[nocturne olive]

Mine does that just fine

My Discord is on a 60Hz and everything else happens on a 165Hz

[rough bloom]

I pretty much always had problems with it on X11 because it fuses the two monitors into one screen

for Xorg they are basically one monitor

there are probably some random extensions and Xorg.conf settings that could've fixed it but I'd rather use a real solution instead of workarounds

[nocturne olive]

Well, I personally kinda need X11 for stuff

I've already built my setup in such a way it depends on X11

[rough bloom]

skill issue

[amber fractal]

There no arguing against preferences

[nocturne olive]

I call it a Wayland issue

If Wayland was good X11NVC would work with it too

[rough bloom]

I've already built my setup in such a way it depends on X11

[rough bloom]

sir it has x11 in the name

[opaque wharf]

@olive sable prime example of linux user right now

[amber fractal]

(real)

[olive sable]

hello ive bene pinged

[nocturne olive]

But if Wayland was designed to replace X11 it would allow X11 software to run perfectly

[noble zodiac]

I mean... there is and I could

[amber fractal]

Calling someone an idiot is not an argument

[opaque wharf]

You are now officially need to defend your preference and tell everyone else why theirs is bad

[noble zodiac]

oh sorry, I misread that as performance instead of preference

yea no, cant argue preference

[olive sable]

i dont either. all my monitors are the same

[rough bloom]

most applications do work through XWayland
there are a few things like VNC that just have to be handled differently, those are the exception not the rule

[opaque wharf]

I wanna confuse everyone further now lmao

[amber fractal]

It is (unfortunately) the linux way. Being denser than a black hole to criticism.

[nocturne olive]

To me that's basically like it just not working
If ever Wayland gains the ability to perfectly incorporate X11 software using a simple compatibility API that both allows X11 software to run, but also to interact with Wayland software, and vice-versa, that is what I would call compatible enough

[olive sable]

well uh, i like cacheos. it has audio encoding built in so its better than windows in both audio and video

and also it runs faster

and it looks cooler

and uh

its customizable

uh

ye

[amber fractal]

Distro time because Wayland/X11 is getting nowhere

as it always does

[opaque wharf]

I think we all agree that rolling release or at least bleeding edge is where its at

[amber fractal]

Can agree there

[noble zodiac]

for enduser

not for server

[olive sable]

i dont really mind having to build stuff myself, but updates are nice i guess

[opaque wharf]

You don't like your server getting the latest bug?

[rough bloom]

no perfect X11 compatibility = literally doesn't work, makes sense
-# (Wayland is already the default session or becoming the default session on quite a few distros)

[rough bloom]

I don't like rolling release but I do like bleeding edge

[olive sable]

did you become purple?

[noble zodiac]

just because something becomes a default doesn't automatically mean that its good

exhibit A: systemd

[olive sable]

oh nevermind

[opaque wharf]

Wdym purple?

[olive sable]

huh

[rough bloom]

no I am Bocchi

[olive sable]

oh no i pinged the wrong person

[opaque wharf]

It is the least bad options tho

[nocturne olive]

To me it's basically that for my main machine
Also Cinnamon Wayland is still experimental anyway

[olive sable]

shuni and unkomp are literaly the same person

i cant tell them apart

[opaque wharf]

I am success

[rough bloom]

Cinnamon issue

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

it doesnt help that that shade of pink looks nearly gray to me

[hoary lion]

im having a confusion here

who is who

what is what

[opaque wharf]

I also choose the green colour for the pfp to mess with you specifically

[amber fractal]

Because I have not attempted anything else outside of systemd, I'll say it works well enough.

[olive sable]

i can see green you know

[opaque wharf]

I was mulling over whether to use a blue background or not lmao

[olive sable]

i see more green, less red

[opaque wharf]

Like that green text over blue bg

[amber fractal]

That is bad in every universe

[opaque wharf]

It is indeed

[opaque wharf]

Believe me you don't want to if you want your system to just work

[opaque wharf]

Okay, chay may be an exception for this because somehow she always found a way

[nocturne olive]

I like Cinnamon though
And not like I need Wayland, it's not usable to me personally on my main machine
Not sure what I'll do if I get myself a proper laptop thin client with Linux though

[rough bloom]

are we doing init systems now?
in that case I can agree with this one, systemd is okay
there are alternatives and they can work if you put in the effort but are mostly just worse

[fast pagoda]

bsd doesnt support wayland

[amber fractal]

I was doing distros but someone flamed systemd

[opaque wharf]

Begone non Linux

[noble zodiac]

yall too young to know the world before

[amber fractal]

peak nerdsnipping

[rough bloom]

any BSD users?

[fast pagoda]

i booted ghostbsd yesterday

and then un-booted it

it did work though

[amber fractal]

I'm old enough to know gatekeeping based on age is counterproductive

[noble zodiac]

gatekeeping from what?

[fast pagoda]

im 4 0000 years old

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, I am starting to actively using linux after it has somewhat okay desktop experience

Because I remember the old scheduler

Like yeah, it is "fair" scheduler objectively, but the experience is lacking for desktop

[olive sable]

the green cones in the eye detect too much red light and not enough green light. so i.e blue looks like blue, red looks like red, and green looks like red and green

[amber fractal]

I swapped for the desktop, not the server initially. I was post steamdeck sure, but I've put in my fair share of getting stuff to work.

[faint sandal]

i use whatever works for me

[nocturne olive]

True, that's kinda what Linux is about
Using what fits best for you

[amber fractal]

We can all agree with that

[faint sandal]

to quote a certain 31 year old potato

[olive sable]

i do wonder, hyprland manages the windows on this linux install, so does that mean i cant use apps without running hyprland first?

[opaque wharf]

Normally, it should start by itself after the greeter/login prompt

[olive sable]

cuz i still havent fixed the thing that hyprland doesnt start automatically, i jsut go to ctrl+alt+f3 and type it in there

[rough bloom]

yes, Hyprland draws the application surfaces to the screen
if Hyprland isn't running then you can't launch graphical applications

[opaque wharf]

But your installation is somehow FUBAR

[olive sable]

fubar?

[opaque wharf]

Fucked Up Beyond All Reason

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

And fails to start hyprland on login

[olive sable]

ill consider it extra security

[amber fractal]

I'm boring where I use NixOS on a bunch of laptops. I play around with a lot, sometimes useful mostly not.

My greeter is getty

[nocturne olive]

If I at some point get a laptop specifically to use as a Linux thin client I'll most likely experiment with distros on there

[amber fractal]

I have not bothered with a GUI greeter

[olive sable]

understandable

[opaque wharf]

I like to have a clock at least

[rough bloom]

I tried a whole bunch of greeters but ended up back at getty
I just have a tiny script to launch Hyprland

[amber fractal]

My tiny script for hyprland is Hyprland in bash

[rough bloom]

I would like to be able to do that but Hyprland needs an environment variable for GPU selection and I want to be able to adjust that for reasons™
and I don't want to type that variable every time

two aliases would be better but I was lazy so script it is

[amber fractal]

Hyprland-dgpu Hyprland-igpu

beat me to it

The fricking day I get VR working on my gaming system under linux again, I'll be making those rounds

I've had exactly zero luck

[olive sable]

loging in to linux is just

turn on pc
select linux in the dualboot menu
turn on numlock
log in
turn on numlock
log in
type Hyprland
turn on numlock

[amber fractal]

numlock

[opaque wharf]

That can be changed tho

[olive sable]

how???

[opaque wharf]

Kernel parameters I think

Or was it udev?

[olive sable]

that does not help

[rough bloom]

numpad haver
-# it's fine I don't actually have an opinion about this one

[olive sable]

idfk where the fuck the kernel parameters are

[amber fractal]

Ah yes, the most sane place for that option to live

[opaque wharf]

Found it
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Activating_numlock_on_bootup

Why tf is it an entire article on its own

I have no idea

[rough bloom]

Hyprland has numlock_by_default

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

But then you need it to be on before hyprland

[amber fractal]

I was just about to say

[rough bloom]

it seems to turn off again when starting Hyprland so I guess you need both

[opaque wharf]

Install mkinitcpio-numlockAUR and add the numlock mkinitcpio hook before encrypt in the /etc/mkinitcpio.conf HOOKS array:

Wtf

[olive sable]

i need it to be on in the initial "type pin"
then when the hyprland inevitably fails to laod and i go to ctrl+alt+f3 i need to log in there, so it needs to be on there too
and then jsut hyprland

[opaque wharf]

Ye, that's the part 1 (console)

Pick one only

The part 2, you do the hyprland one

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

I strongly suggest the systemd one over the one I shared

[olive sable]

im still in windows rn, and eventho it felt quite fast after upgrading my pc, it feels so slow now

[amber fractal]

winslow mhm

[olive sable]

ill probably be in windows for a bit still jsut copying files

[opaque wharf]

First install the numlockx package.

I know the philosophy is do one thing

But come on

[amber fractal]

@olive sable don't you have a oculus rift? Or did you have a quest?

[olive sable]

i have a rift ye

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

does the rift not work in linux?

[opaque wharf]

Library of babel
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Virtual_reality

[olive sable]

iirc you dont necesarily need the meta app installed if you use steam vr

[fast pagoda]

i toggled numlock by default a long time ago

still dont have numlock on boot

and stilll lose numlock after logging in

[opaque wharf]

As I said, it is a kernel thing

Wait, no not really kernel

Well, whatever mkinit do

[fast pagoda]

it's a toggleable item in KDE in the settings

[olive sable]

well anyways, im gonna be putting news sheets on my bed anfd then im going to bed

[amber fractal]

I've at least had no luck with it. Quest 2 broke for me with a system update.

[fast pagoda]

i should try my quest 3 with it

but that would require me to use it

that's a lot of work

[desert plaza]

you have been doing this os setup for the past 13 hours

[olive sable]

not really

[desert plaza]

kinda

[olive sable]

i did the os for amybe 2-3 hours, and then i jsut fucked around with wayland for a couple hours

and then i watched youtube for about 4 hours

[desert plaza]

youtube watching is certainly an integral part of os setup mhm

so am right

[olive sable]

had to catch up on the cottontail collab

that was certainly a stream of all time

[hoary lion]

hello programming

today now I truly sleep alone

no more bug

[desert plaza]

[hoary lion]

now it is time to encounter software bug