programming

[amber fractal]

[nocturne olive]

Does anyone know if that is good, reasonable or absolutely horrible for remote audio?

[opaque wharf]

Depends on the distance and hop, but, if video can achieve < 1s latency. then audio should be able to achieve that too

[nocturne olive]

I wonder where the latency is coming from

Video is being handled by VNC, and audio is ffmpeg -i pulse ...> ffplay

All over a pair of SSH tunnels

[opaque wharf]

The VNC does not use the SSH tunnel right?

[nocturne olive]

It does

Both are using SSH tunnels

So I don't necessarily need to expose the services and get some kind of encryption hopefully

[opaque wharf]

Ye, SSH will provide that. So not the SSH if the video latency is small

You don't perform any encoding to the audio by the ffmpeg?

[nocturne olive]

I turn it into 128K OPUS

To reduce bandwidth

WAV 32-bit is like 2000Kbps

[opaque wharf]

I think OPUS shouldn't add that big of an overhead either

[nocturne olive]

Yeah, I doubt it's the encoding

[olive sable]

what did you do to that poor cpu?

[midnight sigil]

#naked #inside-out #exposed-in-open #hot #dripping

[olive sable]

what?

[umbral thorn]

[nocturne olive]

Rare Elvyn appearance

[olive sable]

The pen for my tablet should be arriving soon

I actualy have another parcel with graduation presents already waiting for me at the parcel pickup location but i didnt want to go twice

[hoary lion]

live (optional) where

[olive sable]

Come on

Being alive is the bare minimum

i wonder why i have 2 of these on my desktop

afaik there shouldnt even be 1

[hoary lion]

what

two same files

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-skywalker-palpatine-is-it-possible-learn-this-power-gif-17185041

[olive sable]

Desktop.ini shouldnt even show up on the desktop i think

[hoary lion]

I see assetto corsa

we all love vroom vroom cars

[olive sable]

I do own one of these

[hoary lion]

that's very poggers

[nocturne olive]

How silly

[olive sable]

I dont really play that much tho

[nocturne olive]

I just have GPUs (2)

No fancy controllers of any kind

I game on keyboard and mouse, be it a console emulator, normal PC game or Osu

[hoary lion]

superbox will NOT stop bragging about that 3090

[nocturne olive]

3090 is great

[olive sable]

I did spend more than im willing to admit on my keyboard and mouse, but i do still like playing on contrller ngl

The ps5 controller just feels so nice to use

[nocturne olive]

I can't afford a controller because broke

[olive sable]

Even if keyboard is supposedly better, WASD isnt as nice as an actual joystick

[hoary lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/894865038895091743/1401376224630149280/12907412_142ca.gif

[olive sable]

I took his last money

[hoary lion]

how is this 2x5090 never utilized

whenever i take a look

[nocturne olive]

That indeed happened

[nocturne olive]

Everything running on integrated?

[opaque sigil]

Maybe because you're looking at nvidia-smi not using them

[hoary lion]

I mean someone else should theoretically use it

[opaque sigil]

Also smh we're on cuda 13 now get with the times

[hoary lion]

but im happy with this

[hoary lion]

I would refuse to upgrade my cuda again

and packages too

[nocturne olive]

There's CUDA 13?

[opaque sigil]

Yes

[hoary lion]

https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-toolkit-release-notes/index.html

its really hot

13.0

but I don't fw odd number versions

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

I wonder though, is it incompatible with CUDA 12?

[olive sable]

I did the math

I made 74 cents profit on superboxes 3090

[hoary lion]

wow sam is really rich

[opaque sigil]

If you have a gpu that's volta or older, yes

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

[nocturne olive]

Mine are a 3090 and 4070Ti

[opaque sigil]

Then it should work unless you've ignored deprecation warnings for the last year or so

[silent slate]

Great success!

[opaque wharf]

Those are not volta or older

[opaque sigil]

Time to make that a side hustle

[nocturne olive]

Professional 3090 dealer, now that's a job title

[uneven pulsar]

i am iron man (still failing at making the ai bot work)

[nocturne olive]

Is it running on a local model or an API model?

[uneven pulsar]

yes

[nocturne olive]

Which?

[uneven pulsar]

Gemini

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[uneven pulsar]

For chatgbt worked but out of credits to teat

[nocturne olive]

Local or API?

[uneven pulsar]

api

[nocturne olive]

Well, are you using the correct API and passing in the right arguments?

[uneven pulsar]

yes

[nocturne olive]

So what does the error you're getting mean then?

[uneven pulsar]

when i used chatgpt it worked bit out of credits

[uneven pulsar]

old model not being available

[nocturne olive]

Then change the model?

[uneven pulsar]

no credits

[nocturne olive]

What GPU do you have?

[uneven pulsar]

I dont

rn

[nocturne olive]

What CPU do you have?

[uneven pulsar]

i5 12000f laptop

on a old MacBook

[nocturne olive]

How much RAM?

[uneven pulsar]

4gb

[nocturne olive]

Ok you're just screwed

Get some hardware before trying to LLM

Cloud models are not worth it

[uneven pulsar]

I can work woth deepseek

I haven’t tried deepseek

[nocturne olive]

I don't recommend using API models, especially for testing

Maybe in prod, but not while testing

[uneven pulsar]

why

[uneven pulsar]

i just want to well learn apis

I don’t want to use it in prod

[nocturne olive]

Because in testing you need to constantly call the model in order to know if it works

[uneven pulsar]

Wait I didn’t call the model

oh fuck

[nocturne olive]

Then run an OpenAI API compatible server on your device after getting some reasonable hardware

[rough bloom]

wdym
APIs are perfect for testing because you don't have to get huge hardware for it, you only pay for as much as you need

big hardware is great for when you continously need to serve a ton of requests

[uneven pulsar]

300$

[rough bloom]

testing is the opposite of that

[nocturne olive]

You constantly have to call the API though

Since you need to do testing stuff

[uneven pulsar]

i am determined to become iron man

[nocturne olive]

You could easily get a 12GB 3060 for that

[uneven pulsar]

oh yeh

but i am fine

for now

[rough bloom]

a lot of models are like below $0.2 per million tokens, it's fine

[nocturne olive]

If you're spending so much money on APIs that you could get a GPU and don't explicitly need an intelligent model, like for testing, just get the GPU and run locally

[rough bloom]

sure, if your testing consumes 1.5 billion tokens, consider getting a GPU

I hope it doesn't do that

[nocturne olive]

Well, this seems concerningly high

[olive sable]

Why do some apps disable screenshots

[opaque wharf]

Privacy

[olive sable]

Ill just take a picture with another device i guess

[olive sable]

Ye but its my own bank account

I need that picture

[opaque wharf]

Even more so

[olive sable]

Its not like im trying to take a sreenshot of any private info

Its hhe graph of my savings account

[nocturne olive]

DRM probably, Linux most likely fixes this

[olive sable]

Ill stick with android for now

[nocturne olive]

Android uses a Linux kernel by the way

[olive sable]

Cool i guess

[noble zodiac]

all banks worth their money have some way to export the data

and then you can be a nerd and put it into GNU cash 🤓

[midnight sigil]

I found some 2D ahh looking trees

[rigid snow]

cool trees

[rigid snow]

gemini 2.0 flash my beloved

[uneven pulsar]

GUYS THE FUCKING AI JUST SAID HI OMG

ITS FUCKING WORKING

[dense cosmos]

#pragma once
#include "Network.h"

#define BEGIN_MUTATION(name) \
    struct name : public Mutation { \
    static const char* ClassName() { return #name; } \
    const char* get_type() const override { return ClassName(); }

#define END_MUTATION };

struct Mutation {
    virtual const char* get_type() const = 0;
};

BEGIN_MUTATION(M_AddExistingNode)
NodeID id;
END_MUTATION

BEGIN_MUTATION(M_CreateNewLeafNode)
ActivationFunction activation;
END_MUTATION

BEGIN_MUTATION(M_CreateNewBranchNode)
size_t node_count;
END_MUTATION``` I'm not really pleased with this approach, anyone got a better solution?

[trim valve]

unfortunately if they didn't have it many more people would probably open themselves up to scams

[dense cosmos]

I just want to have a base class I can use for storage (Mutation), and convert it to a derived class during evaluation. I could do it with an enum, but I'd have to add the enums manually

this solution works, but I'm not a huge fan of comparing const char*

(or loss of {} with that macro)

[trim valve]

idk much about how c++ works but is there a way to take a compile time hash of the name?

because that would maybe be less bad than comparing char*

[dense cosmos]

hmm, maybe?

constexpr apparently

[trim valve]

ye

idk any hashing algos but I feel like basically ```cpp
constexpr unsigned int hash_name(const char* name)

and hope you never have a hash collision

[dense cosmos]

constexpr uint32_t fnv1a_hash(const char* str, uint32_t hash = 2166136261u) {
    return (*str) ? fnv1a_hash(str + 1, (hash ^ *str) * 16777619u) : hash;
}

constexpr uint64_t fnv1a_hash64(const char* str, uint64_t hash = 14695981039346656037ull) {
    return (*str) ? fnv1a_hash64(str + 1, (hash ^ *str) * 1099511628211ull) : hash;
}

#define BEGIN_MUTATION(name) \
    struct name : public Mutation { \
    static constexpr const char* ClassName() { return #name; } \
    static constexpr uint64_t ClassHash() { return fnv1a_hash64(#name); } \
    const char* get_type() const override { return ClassName(); }\
    uint64_t get_type_hash() const { return ClassHash(); }\

#define END_MUTATION };

struct Mutation {
    virtual const char* get_type() const = 0;
};

BEGIN_MUTATION(M_AddExistingNode)
NodeID id;
END_MUTATION

BEGIN_MUTATION(M_CreateNewLeafNode)
ActivationFunction activation;
END_MUTATION

BEGIN_MUTATION(M_CreateNewBranchNode)
size_t node_count;
END_MUTATION```

I think that should work

if there's a hash collision

it would be really easy to figure out

[cosmic sphinx]

Gemini models with enormous free API limits:

[uneven pulsar]

Me who just made a discord ai bot

I named him jarvis

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-tony-stark-iron-man-gif-13000253080395333555

[cosmic sphinx]

if you want just to play around with api, try gemini-2.0-flash

this amount of requests should be more than enough

for testing atleast

[uneven pulsar]

i am using 2.0 flash

[cosmic sphinx]

[uneven pulsar]

after so much time…

I AM IRON MAN

[uneven pulsar]

well anyways gotta be careful when using tokens

[sage crag]

bye bye electron 35

[opaque sigil]

Damn outdated

[sage crag]

vscode just updated to electron 37

[opaque sigil]

What does Rdns do

[sage crag]

before i had 35, 36, and 37 on my machine

[opaque sigil]

I always either do Rns or Rdd

[sage crag]

honestly i dont remember any more

[opaque sigil]

Fair

Ah -d skips dependency checks

[sage crag]

supposedly removes configs, orphaned deps, and ignores dependency checks

but it doesnt actually skip dependency checks unless you do --no-deps

[opaque sigil]

I guess that's why you need Rdd as a nuclear option

Man

I do like pacman but these flags

[sage crag]

yeah

[uneven pulsar]

well guys

i just applied an ai discord bot

A SUCCESS

[tender river]

i usually just do -Rs... i think

[olive sable]

[uneven pulsar]

what lenovo is this

pencil?????????

[olive sable]

Yes

[uneven pulsar]

how much

digital?

[olive sable]

It was 31 bucks

[uneven pulsar]

i swear if its 50$ pencil...

[olive sable]

The tablet i bought for it was 240

[uneven pulsar]

oh ok

[uneven pulsar]

wait you're going to do digital art

[olive sable]

Its just the lenovo flagship tablet from 2023, but lcd instead of oled, and its shipped from china instead of lenovo shipping it from china and tripeling the price

[opaque sigil]

Do they sell replacement tips (ideally not just the same hard ones)

[olive sable]

Maybe

Idk tho

The 2025 pen doesnt work on the 2023 pen devices cuz fuck the customer

So its hard to even find the whole ass pen cheaply

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

It was only 30 bucks, if it breaks it breakd

[tight tinsel]

Sam artist arc? Finally the bingo box will be filled

[olive sable]

I bought a coke while getting my packages, and the 2nd package had a coke already inside with my fucking name on it

[desert plaza]

er that's crazy

[uneven pulsar]

of course

[olive sable]

the pen is supposed to do wireless charging on the tablet, but it wont connect. so either its broken or i need to charge it via usb-c first

[uneven pulsar]

I wonder what game will you make

[olive sable]

at least the usb port is in the side and not the top

[olive sable]

the best games

[uneven pulsar]

👍

[olive sable]

surely

[uneven pulsar]

good luck

I haven’t done anything great in my life

[olive sable]

if i can make games withou having real education on it, imagine what i can do with actual education

[uneven pulsar]

like didn’t you go to college man..i wish if you where in a technical school

[olive sable]

but ye i doubt the classes on 3D an aplied physics and math will make me learn even a single thing.

[uneven pulsar]

they would hella made you a hacker from early age

[uneven pulsar]

I see

[olive sable]

nah, i only did secondary so far

[uneven pulsar]

I see

[olive sable]

im mostly there for the other classes

[uneven pulsar]

well i am bot going to lie I can’t even write a function

and I forgot how to I access a list index

[olive sable]

o7

[uneven pulsar]

I only know how to write python opp

and some try expect

[olive sable]

well, you just gotta practise more

probably

[uneven pulsar]

Well idk

i am an idiot

I question my self why people belive i am something

like i am an total idiot

[olive sable]

how long have you been coding??

[uneven pulsar]

1 year and a half

and already forgot a lot

[olive sable]

eh

[uneven pulsar]

i get destroyed by 15 years old who been coding c/c++ and c# from age of 10

[olive sable]

a year is already at the point most people would remember how to do it. so either you just dont code that much in your time off or your memory is swiss cheese

[uneven pulsar]

I don’t have a great life

[uneven pulsar]

both

I only know typescript

and java

I honestly i am screwed in most ways

[olive sable]

idk what to tell you

just make it better

[uneven pulsar]

you don’t have to

[olive sable]

its your life, you full control

[uneven pulsar]

not something to worry about

yeah thanks ill find my way I guess

[olive sable]

this yt video bro said "first we gotta memorize this equation" like nah i aint memorizing shit wtf is that

you now shit is bad when there are only 6 numbers is an equation that size

[uneven pulsar]

i see

this is probably the worst summer for me

…

can i ask you i have a python passage exam

i got till 15 semptember

And I don’t have anything to practice on

[olive sable]

well uh

i just make games

idk

[uneven pulsar]

ii see…

well you probably can easily pass my exam

i find python hard for some reasons

[olive sable]

https://github.com/samvanmaele/game-engine-python
i have a game engine in python if you wanne see

[uneven pulsar]

oh thanks

[olive sable]

this is a game made in that engine
https://github.com/samvanmaele/A-neuro-who-can-t-sing

[uneven pulsar]

thanks

[opaque sigil]

That has to be the most useless equation I have ever seen

There's no t or x anywhere

[stray dragon]

there's a t here now

[opaque sigil]

Hi t

[noble zodiac]

I can't believe that after all these years I finally noticed that middle mouse copy paste reacts to the mouse cursor position in vim

[stray dragon]

hi toast

[opaque sigil]

This will be your new norm very soon

[olive sable]

its some type of fluid dynamics euler equation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGNUHigqUBM

[noble zodiac]

ah ange the goat

love engine simulator

[olive sable]

surely not

its aplied math for game dev

im not gonna be doing fluid dynamics

hopefully

i do admit that the fluid dynamics in the new astro bot looked juicy asf but im not there yet

[stark needle]

[sage crag]

awa

[tender river]

awa

[opaque sigil]

it's not about fluid dynamics it's about the math in general

[opaque sigil]

i miss numbers

[rigid snow]

<- ✅

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288144271823601744/1296488596743786568/rotate_rotate.gif

[opaque wharf]

Not fair, why is evil smaller

[opaque sigil]

another day, another shellcheck update that brings a couple dozen haskell dependency updates with it

[sage crag]

running the code

[sage crag]

i think the order is actually reversed

i do wonder why haskell went with the dynamic libs approach

[tender river]

its arch packagers rather than haskell itself

haskell allows both dynamic and static linking

i think, anyway

[sage crag]

i suppose so

[tender river]

packagers generally hate static linking

and vendoring

[opaque wharf]

Python does not fare better

[sage crag]

seems like a poor choice to be honest, every rust binary is statically linked so i dont have to download a million updates

[tender river]

thats only because rust simply does not provide dynamic linking

[sage crag]

python dependency management in package managers is pure hell

[tender river]

if it did, it would be used

[sage crag]

packaged versions of dependencies are randomly different to ones downloaded through pip

• managing them when you have a mix of both pip dependencies and packages is awful

[tender river]

thats why everyone says "use venv"

[sage crag]

yup

i just realised im complaining about this to a nix user

you shouldnt have this issue because you use nix

[tender river]

i dont have pip dependencies

[sage crag]

in general though

[tender river]

i dont have rustup

i dont have nvm or zvm

[sage crag]

nixpkgs only huh

do you write a nixpkg when a dependency is missing

[tender river]

if im lazy i just use venv and steam-run if it requires native code

if im not as lazy i do write a package

[sage crag]

steam-run

weekly reminder that teto was crushed under a waffle

[tender river]

steam-run simply runs the package in a bwrap that contains a fhs system thats sufficient to run steam games

which is enough for just about anything

[trim valve]

how could you post this, there are children here

[sage crag]

teot

[tender river]

🧇

[sage crag]

teto inside sticker

[olive sable]

my new pen wont connect bwaa

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/samsung-samsung-galaxy-samsung-galaxy-s-samsung-galaxy-s25-samsung-galaxy-s25-plus-gif-15408691779983451093

but teto

[opaque sigil]

NPU

[olive sable]

i like how, if you make the first version really sht you casn boast about incredible improvements

[sage crag]

this is an automatic buff when you use python

its what im doing too

[olive sable]

i might have bought the wrong pen

i even asked shadow if this was the right one but i guess not

[rigid snow]

return

[nocturne olive]

-# That's as much as exists at the moment

[noble zodiac]

Guess I have to enable DNSSEC at work. I'd rather eat rusty nails but it is what it is

[tender river]

dnssec

[sage crag]

[Resolve]
DNS=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DNS=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DNS=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DNS=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DNSOverTLS=yes
DNSSEC=yes
Cache=yes

mm resolved.conf

[tender river]

back when i self hosted my site's authoritative dns server i signed my own dnssec records with some utility from bind? or whatever

then they removed it

[sage crag]

i just updated shellcheck pls

[noble zodiac]

its a huge pain in the ass and gives no real security benefits

not even google implements it

and we have a split horizon as well

[olive sable]

this tablet is supposedly the same as the p12 but with a different screen, but i geuss the different screen also has a different pen digitizer layer

[nocturne olive]

Tablet?

[olive sable]

yes

i bought this pen for my tablet

[tender river]

it does protect against dns tampering even though that's not too important with https

[nocturne olive]

Like one of those Android devices or the thing people play Osu on?

[olive sable]

its like a phone but big

[nocturne olive]

So the Android one

I've never had one, I don't see the point when I can just carry a laptop

[noble zodiac]

it is what it is. Government says do it despite what the real internet out there is doing. and this is specifically about mail and DANE

[sage crag]

governmet

[noble zodiac]

also didn't djb call dnssec a double barrel ddos shotgun

[sage crag]

im invincible

[noble zodiac]

since its a free amplification attack

[olive sable]

what are you supposed to say here when you just bought the wrong one?

[opaque sigil]

3

or 4 i guess

[olive sable]

oh i relaize now yall cant read this lmao

[sage crag]

i think Item is defect is fairly clear

[olive sable]

here

my favorite translation, damaged, and damaged

[sage crag]

articles are missing

[olive sable]

but i received it tho

its just not what i needed

[sage crag]

i was not giving a suggestion

[desert plaza]

damaged²

[olive sable]

i guess "a wrong item has been sent"?

even tho im the one that bought the wrong thing

[trim valve]

don't think too hard about it, its amazon

[olive sable]

aliexpress but close enough

[trim valve]

oh oops

it is like exactly the same as amazon's return menu

[opaque sigil]

those are mostly for analytics anyway, it legitimately does not matter which one you pick i'm pretty sure

[olive sable]

okay

[olive sable]

i just said it doesnt work

anyways now i gotta figure out which pen is the correct one

[sage crag]

writing parsers in python sucks

i := next(it) hblang mhm

[dire turret]

[olive sable]

write a new parser in hblang

[sage crag]

yes that is the plan

after the python version is done

[violet sand]

I heard that people really like Rust for building parsers

[sage crag]

its a waste of time for me to use rust on this

bwa

[violet sand]

Rewriting in Rust is never a waste of time

[sage crag]

im never writing this in rust

nyope

[violet sand]

I'm split between wanting to learn Swift/Zig, after I finish learning Julia

[sage crag]

learn hblang

[violet sand]

wat even is tat?

[sage crag]

awa

[desert plaza]

no that's something different

hblang is not awa

smh you know that

[sage crag]

its not AWA5.0

it is awa however

[violet sand]

I'm arguably left more confused

[desert plaza]

learn AWA5.0 instead, the spec is more complete

[rough bloom]

yeah, I really like how it completely specifies all instructions with no ambiguity whatsoever

[sage crag]

and how the spec correctly documents the standard

[violet sand]

Ahh I see now
https://esolangs.org/wiki/AWA5.0

May the cancer spread on to my brain after seeing this

[opaque sigil]

you should learn zig (i'm not biased at all)

[maiden geyser]

stop having fun

[faint sandal]

just had my first head crash in my server

dead

[rough bloom]

[opaque sigil]

[desert plaza]

[olive sable]

global rom mean sunlocked bootloader so no netflix right?

[opaque sigil]

not necessarily

i think you need widevine L1 for netflix which should be okay if it's just a global rom and the bootloader is locked afterwards

could be wrong

[faint sandal]

i thought not being able to load the fstab with all the drives loaded will cause the boot to halt

but it loaded just fine without the drive

[olive sable]

for my other tablet i got from aliexpress i didnt get widevine L1 cuz of global rom

[opaque sigil]

is that with a locked bootloader though

[olive sable]

idk how to check that, but probably not

[opaque sigil]

i think you'd have to figure out how to boot into the recovery or bootloader and then go from there

[olive sable]

cuz like i can install the netflix app but it wont go further than the spalshscreen witht he logo

same for prime video

And it occasionally does this too

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

so locking the bootloader should fix it?

[opaque sigil]

not guaranteed but it might

[olive sable]

i find it weird cuz here it says L1 but idk

[tender river]

raise StopIteration()

[opaque sigil]

it might already be locked tbf

[desert plaza]

thanks geeksforgeeks

very helpful

[opaque sigil]

oh also just in case you didn't know, (un)locking the bootloader wipes everything

[olive sable]

ah shit

[sage crag]

no thank

i dont want to indent more

have better way

[olive sable]

well i dont really have much of value on this tablet anyways, but installing 120gb of gacha games did take long

i barely play them anyways tho

[tender river]

no thats just how python generators work

[sage crag]

i just use break

awa

yesterday i wrote the tokeniser with regex but i realised today that hblang doesnt have a regex engine

so im writing a manual version

[olive sable]

Booting up safe mode this is the first thing i see

[tender river]

this message used to be in engrish

it started with something like "The bootloader has been unlockerr"

[olive sable]

[tender river]

okay it's "Your device has been unlocker and cann't be trusted"

[desert plaza]

that's just a typo

an r instead of a d

[opaque wharf]

Its no longer for geeks

[desert plaza]

i rarely find that website particularly informative

[opaque wharf]

It used to be informative

Like w3schools

[desert plaza]

i wouldn't know

too bad then

[tender river]

theres zero things to tokenize in lisp-like grammars anyway awa

[opaque wharf]

This makes me feel old for some reason

[tender river]

paren, whitespace, everything else

in your case also strings i suppose

[olive sable]

oh i didnt even get the chance to do the android recovery mode screen

it jsut went to factory settings

[small anvil]

{conclusion}.

[olive sable]

they really do be adding dolby atmos certification to anything nowadays huh

how a tablet gonna give me surround sound?

[opaque wharf]

IIRC, dolby atmos is not always surround

[olive sable]

dolby atmos is suppsoed to be spatial audio tho no?

[opaque wharf]

Or right

[uneven pulsar]

This is soo funny

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I mistake it with other dolby things

[olive sable]

that didnt even locj the bootloader, i guess there is just a shortcut key combination to factory settings?

what is that even supposed to be used for?

[small anvil]

oh i just realised the g.co/placeholder

[sage crag]

i fix it

awa

dubious (include "path")

it works but i dont trust numbers

[tender river]

theres ''.removeprefix and removesuffix

[sage crag]

smocus

[tender river]

[olive sable]

seems like it doesnt want to lock

[hazy folio]

c

[desert plaza]

ↄ

[opaque wharf]

u

[noble zodiac]

n

[opaque wharf]

: (this is a cross section)

[sage crag]

υ

[desert plaza]

𐌵

[sage crag]

awa

[desert plaza]

ɐʍɐ

[sage crag]

  n
c   ᴐ
  ᴜ

[small anvil]

av (this is half of awa)

[sage crag]

awa

[olive sable]

apparently "Chinese market (PRC) firmware" blocks any attempt at lockign the bootloader

eventho this is supposed to have global rom

[desert plaza]

was about to ask wtf eentho was

[opaque wharf]

You forgot the cross-section in the middle

[tender river]

the bootloader is still for the chinese market

[desert plaza]

waht r u talking about

[tender river]

if it says "global rom" it usually just means the seller unlocked the bootloader and flashed global fw

[opaque wharf]

: is the cross-section of the 4 symbol

[tender river]

but the bootloader stays the same as its signed and typically non flashable

[desert plaza]

and what is the 4 symbol

[opaque wharf]

n c ᴐ ᴜ

[desert plaza]

uhh

[noble zodiac]

web-sys trying to cope with arbitrary arguments in javascript ... my beloved
draw_image_with_html_video_element_and_dw_and_dh()

they keep getting longer

draw_image_with_video_frame_and_sw_and_sh_and_dx_and_dy_and_dw_and_dh()

[olive sable]

so either i need to try to get a diffrent bootlaoder on here, or i spoof widevine

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

is spoofing widevine even legal?

[midnight sigil]

how is there only 225 occurrence of the word "arbitrary"

in #programming

[desert plaza]

arbitrary

226

[noble zodiac]

because it is difficult to spell

[midnight sigil]

[midnight sigil]

what's the easier alternative

[desert plaza]

arb

[midnight sigil]

that's an abbreviation

not a word

smh

[desert plaza]

it is easier, is it not?

must the alternative be a real word?

hmmm

[noble zodiac]

variable arguments, just dont say variable variables

[midnight sigil]

this variable variable may variate on various variates

[desert plaza]

[noble zodiac]

that's a variant I can support

[midnight sigil]

what is the most common word in #programming that's more than 6 letters

[olive sable]

seems like i cant just change the bootloader. its tied to the mb apparently

[noble zodiac]

segfault

[midnight sigil]

ok it might be "programming" the word itself

[opaque wharf]

uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas

[midnight sigil]

[fast pagoda]

aawagaa

[midnight sigil]

awaga

you should make templeos support internet

[desert plaza]

was about to say that

[midnight sigil]

can we do hblang in holyc

so it's more holy

holy byte

[desert plaza]

"https:/"

11570 results

[olive sable]

hmm its midnight in bejing

[fast pagoda]

you know, this is and has been my application launcher icon if i didnt just reinstalll

[haughty briar]

chat, call me chizo or going insane, but like the 5090 has been released already right

i swear i took my pills today

[fast pagoda]

it do be released and it still be overpriced

went to microcenter last week and found a bunch of 5090 sitting there but they were all $3k or more still

[haughty briar]

this CLLA i shant say, this complex calculator just said nuh uh to me telling him the 5090 has been released

[haughty briar]

WHAAATTT i just saw one thats like £2000

oh wait thats dollars

[fast pagoda]

i could find one for about that much online

yeah

$2300~

[haughty briar]

yea

[fast pagoda]

I kinda refuse to pay more than $2000 so i will probably never get one

2000 is already a stupid amount

[haughty briar]

tru

[fast pagoda]

each time i've added one to cart my grandma's ghostly presence appears in the back of my head and says "it's HOW MUCH??" like she used to when i told her my pc parts were anything over $500 a piece

[haughty briar]

i mean theres a listing rn on the nividia marketplace for £1,940

prolly the cheapest we can get a hands on a 5090 rn icl

[haughty briar]

LMAOO

[haughty briar]

am i seeing things rn

[olive sable]

ok, booting into "Qualcomm Manufacturing and Maintenance Interface (QMMI)" did make the netflix app work

waht the fuck

[fast pagoda]

must not be a US thing

tariffs or some bullSHIET

[haughty briar]

oh US damn i need better eyes

yeaaa

pain

[olive sable]

i dont get tablets man.
atleast it works, but idk if i feel like going into the bootloader to go to QMMI everytime i want to use netflix

[fast pagoda]

DRM related

[olive sable]

oh

apparently it now works without QMMI too

and the bootloader is still unlocked

[fast pagoda]

probably installed big brother 1984.EXE last boot

so now it's fine

[olive sable]

i geuss QMMI activated my tablet's widevine certification?

[fast pagoda]

yes

lol

[olive sable]

fucking android oml

if i installed linux on here would i still have widevine?

[fast pagoda]

there are some widevine bypasses out there

it basically slaps a device profile and key on your device so idk how long a single one would last

[rough bloom]

bare-metal? N, probably not
if it's in a VM then it should be fine but that's still really new AFAIK

apparently the Asahi Linux people made an installer for aarch64 systems
but you'll only get L3 so resolution will be shit (same as on any non-proprietary Linux system I think)

[uneven pulsar]

fun fact an 5090 is cheaper than a 4090 in my country

[olive sable]

ok so i wont be returning the wrong pen

[uneven pulsar]

dose discord bots have ready made / commands?

[olive sable]

instead we'll just be buying a tablet that has support for that pen

[uneven pulsar]

or do i have to code them

[nocturne olive]

No, you need to make them

[uneven pulsar]

oh ok

[nocturne olive]

It's easy enough though, first declare the command, then listen for that command

[uneven pulsar]

ill just make a function where i ping him and tell him a specific key word to kick the user

like !kickass

[olive sable]

surely the tablet im gonna buy does support the pen that my current tablet doesn't

oh ye, im not just replacing my tablet btw, its for my sister now

[opaque wharf]

It has not. It's all the voices in your head

[opaque wharf]

You should ask chay regarding linux on mobile device

[opaque wharf]

Oh, I take back my catdespair

[uneven pulsar]

async def command_handler(message):
    commands = ["kick", "ban", "mute", "unmute", "help", "info"]
    if message.content.startswith("!"):
        command = message.content[1:].strip().lower()
        for cmd in commands:
            if command in commands:
                if command == "help":
                    await message.channel.send("Available commands: " + ", ".join(commands))
                elif command == "info":
                    await message.channel.send("I am Jarvis, your AI assistant. How can I help you?")
                else:
                    await message.channel.send(f"Command '{command}' is not implemented yet.")
            else:
                await message.channel.send(f"Unknown command: {command}. Type !help for a list of commands.")

well something like this?

[nocturne olive]

That's not slash commands

Anyway, you can parse however you like

[uneven pulsar]

no !

[uneven pulsar]

i can use !

[stiff mica]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 2 cookies! | I've received 240569 cookies total!

[nocturne olive]

That's called "prefix commands" by bot devs

[rigid snow]

slash command

[uneven pulsar]

but it should be able to parse it

[uneven pulsar]

i see

tatsu uses it

!trank

something like that

[rigid snow]

their prefix is t!

[opaque wharf]

Can we give neurobot cookie anytime?

[nocturne olive]

The neat thing about slash commands is the autocomplete, that's the main selling point really

[rigid snow]

why wouldn't we be able to

[uneven pulsar]

also should i be aware of the ai bot doesn’t give my bot token and cookie and
Making sure when it’s given profanity inputs make sure it warns the inputter or mutes em

[opaque wharf]

I have no idea what is and isn't allowed to interact with neurobot

[uneven pulsar]

sooo like i should use /

[rigid snow]

also it not sending a message to everyone/sending it to you only being an option

[nocturne olive]

Slash commands are not parsed, they're handled by the Discord API

[rigid snow]

also not having 2 messages per interaction

[uneven pulsar]

oh

[nocturne olive]

If you're not putting those in the context, then it's not leaking any tokens

[rigid snow]

it's a regular ass bot wdym

[uneven pulsar]

wait like wdym leaking tokens

WAIT

MY BOT COULD LEAK TOKENS?

[rough bloom]

yeah, slash commands have a lot of stuff that prefix commands don't
user-installed bots for example

[opaque wharf]

Well a bot still needs to be hosted so I don't know what is and isn't allowed man. Who knows if I accidentally DDoS-ed the bot

[uneven pulsar]

well good thing only me in the server

[nocturne olive]

It should not if you're not an idiot and pass the token to the bot context

[rigid snow]

what? give computed the account back whoever you are!

[uneven pulsar]

ohhhhh ok

i aint passing my bot to a nother one

[opaque wharf]

[rigid snow]

but like if you're genuinely asking, the compute necessary to host a discord bot is so negligible (especially as simple as neurobot!) it does not matter

i'm gonna be surprised if an rpi couldn't handle neurobot in 20 servers the size of this one

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, I am not that familiar with Discord stuff and I don't really bother to explore it

[rough bloom]

pretty sure that Discord will rate-limit you way before you break NeuroBot

[rigid snow]

that too

[nocturne olive]

The more important part is that Discord has a rate limit of 1 request per second

[uneven pulsar]

iv just exited my fucking quota limit

[rough bloom]

unless you actually use many IPs and accounts, in that case it's just a genuine intentional DDoS

[uneven pulsar]

......

well at least its working

[nocturne olive]

Time to actually get a GPU

[opaque wharf]

My account may be older than 6 month, but I'm really only been using it actively since joining the Neurocord lol

[uneven pulsar]

i should probably buy a 5080

[rigid snow]

1. that has to be for non verified bots only
2. if you're replying to slash commands i assume it doesn't count towards that

[rough bloom]

how many tokens did you consume in what amount of time?

[uneven pulsar]

well for today

[nocturne olive]

If you could afford a 5080 the whole time why did you not just get that a long time ago?

[uneven pulsar]

idk

i was using mac

[rigid snow]

nevermind i misread

[rough bloom]

just curious if you actually need a big GPU or not
because I still think just using an API will be way cheaper (and better)

[rigid snow]

silly

[uneven pulsar]

yeah

i should probably stick with api ig

[rough bloom]

you can always just try API and see how much that costs before committing to buying a GPU

[opaque wharf]

You can try to scrape API token from the net (This is one of the reason I resign from my previous employer)

[rough bloom]

there's being cheap and then there's being cheap

[rigid snow]

being free

[opaque wharf]

It is what it is lmao. I don't know if they still afloat today or not tho

[rough bloom]

not even, you have to pay for employee time to maintain the scraping

[rigid snow]

wait i didn't even process tht

they were doing that at an actual workplace

ain't no fucking way bruh

[uneven pulsar]

nvm jarvis is working again

guys it was just an error

i just debuged him again

[opaque wharf]

I told you I've experienced work at shady workplace lmao

[rough bloom]

may your free quota be plentiful and your token usage low

[uneven pulsar]

thanks

[opaque sigil]

https://www.theverge.com/news/757461/microsoft-github-thomas-dohmke-resignation-coreai-team-transition cool so apparently this is a thing now

[rough bloom]

AI engineering team
whyyy

[opaque sigil]

have you read any of the last idk

20 github tech blogs

[rough bloom]

no

[opaque sigil]

they're obsessed with copilot

[opaque wharf]

Codeberg it is

[rough bloom]

I don't need to read tech blogs to know that

but GitHub != GitHub Copilot

[uneven pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-again-gta-gif-20483040

now github is going to be full ai shi

so now we going to see pull req are based on ai

[tender river]

why is github part of the ai engineering team again

(rhetorical question)

[uneven pulsar]

because we're getting replaced by AI by 2024
(rhetorical answer)

[flint dome]

question: are c and c++ crash dumps (ccpp files) in linux by abrt important or can I delete them

[opaque wharf]

If you don't plan to debug it, then you can delete them

[opaque sigil]

probably a good idea to just turn them off and turn it back on if you ever need it

[rough bloom]

if you're using a system with systemd-coredump configured properly then they should already be cleaned up automatically, so you don't really have to care unless the coredumps are very large

but yeah, if you never plan on using a coredump at all then it should be safe to disable them

[olive sable]

i dont want to bother them so ill just wait till they're here

[opaque wharf]

Ye which is why I don't ping either lol

[tender river]

im everpresent

[desert plaza]

[olive sable]

so

linux on a tablet, is it good?

[tender river]

its good if you want linux

its bad if you dont want linux

[olive sable]

i see

can you still use the play store?

[tender river]

linux doesnt have play store

but you can use waydroid for android emulation (its somewhat similar to wine)

[olive sable]

that does check out

is dualbooting an option?

[tender river]

depends on the tablet

[olive sable]

probably not then

[tender river]

the stock bootloader typically only supports a single os

maybe with a/b partitions for safe ota updates

so two os'es but normally functioning under the expectation that they are interchangeable

[olive sable]

hmmm

[tender river]

additionally linux is generally not something you can just install on a mobile device

[olive sable]

i think for now ill stick with android since i need it for school, but i can change it later

widevine is not an issue anymore and i dont want to break it again

[opaque wharf]

No devstream

[hoary lion]

aw man my shitty code is getting mixed into copilot

[olive sable]

intel seems to be falling apart

i give them 5 years till bankrupcy

[opaque wharf]

Intel won't be bankrupt anytime soon

They have ton of inertia and support from government

[hoary lion]

Bruh, why there is gemini at yt comments summarizing top comments

[opaque wharf]

I just make another user account on my linux installation for my online presence. So Discord can actually resize the side panel

[rough bloom]

the leadership changes are so insanely stupid
previous guy made heavy investments, new guy does his absolute best to undo those investments and shrink the company as much as possible

[rigid snow]

be thankful it's not bard

[hoary lion]

Bard can't do korean for sure

[opaque wharf]

My other user account must've been so messed up in the config that even some web feels janky lmao

[rough bloom]

yeah, unless something major happens they will live, somehow
the question is more whether they will remain a competitive alternative to AMD or not

[rigid snow]

they're trying somewhat

[opaque wharf]

Yep. Company that has invested in Intel hardware won't just suddenly move to AMD for no reason before having their ROI

[rigid snow]

also their gpus are cool

[opaque wharf]

And their CPU availability is higher for OEM

[olive sable]

that fab they got paid 10 milion for... thay kinda paused that

[opaque wharf]

AMD has to compete with other TSMC customer

[olive sable]

well ye, competition is good

[rigid snow]

that's not

[rough bloom]

paused
more like completely cancelled and abandoned

[olive sable]

ye... its not good

and after they already put that much money into it too

[opaque wharf]

TIL that most of my issue most likely stems from sooo much junk piling up on $HOME

[rigid snow]

he meant to compete over tsmc's production capacity

[opaque wharf]

To be fair tho, that user account is used for a wide variety of development

[rough bloom]

Intel is basically having the opposite problem, their chips are currently unpopular enough that they have too much fab capacity because their designs don't sell as much
they were planning to invest into their fabs and make them available to external customers but apparently that is cancelled too

[olive sable]

the way i see things buying shorts on intel would potentially bring a lot of profit. im just not irresponsible enough to do trading

[rigid snow]

to invest into their fabs and make them available to external customers but apparently that is cancelled
is intel stupid?

[rough bloom]

as I said, new CEO guy is doing his best to undo as many investments as possible

frick making money, reduce cost

[olive sable]

is the new ceo the reason we dont have 15900k?

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, which is a shame. That lithography production capabilities could be used for other stuff beside CPU. But I guess they are not equipped for stuff other than CPU

[rough bloom]

they should be, they make WiFi and Bluetooth stuff already

[opaque wharf]

Oh yeah, right

So it's management issue all along huh

[olive sable]

realtek vs intel

[rigid snow]

and cellular modems too right

[olive sable]

afaik the intel stuff is held in higher regard than realtek

altho both are hated

[noble zodiac]

also great network cards

[rough bloom]

I think so? but in that space Qualcomm is the market leader AFAIK

[rough bloom]

yes, Realtek is ass, Intel is usually good
their WiFi cards can have issues but that's just WiFi being WiFi

[olive sable]

to be fair, the "both are hated" is probably because nobody cares if they work well, but when it doesnt work they immediatly get their pitchforks

[rigid snow]

apple used intel and qualcomm modems for iphones, then they dropped qualcomm in like 2020, now they apparently have developed their own one???

what is apple even about at this point

[opaque wharf]

I wish atheros didn't stop making wifi card

[olive sable]

sure new intel CEO

a comeback...

[noble zodiac]

they have the luxury of the government not allowing them to fail completely

[rigid snow]

OH they did WHAT?? how don't i know about this?

[olive sable]

its like the banks ye, the government cant allow them to fail

altho in my honest opinion, banks should kinda be allowed to fail cuz of the whole "vote with your wallet" stuff

a bad bussiness shouldnt exist

[noble zodiac]

its all the fault of the reddit intel guy tbh

[sage crag]

glue

[opaque wharf]

Well, banks are allowed to fail here

[olive sable]

good

i like how konii stopped whatever she was doing just to say glue

[sage crag]

i was doing nothing

that is still true

i am

[opaque wharf]

After failing hard at osu lmao

[sage crag]

i was playing hard maps

[opaque wharf]

Well yes, I said failing hard

[olive sable]

i cant believe i never questioned this before, but why is your name konii?

[sage crag]

because making a name is hard

[olive sable]

mhm

thats why i just use my name

[rigid snow]

just stick to whatever you came up as a stupid kid like i did. is it cringe? yes. do i care? no

[olive sable]

that is the one thing i wont do

[rigid snow]

xXx_EpicGhostAssassin420_xXx

[opaque wharf]

I do have a public account to deal with professional stuff, but we don't really use discord for communication lol

[olive sable]

if i need another accout ill jsut make one i guess

but i dont so

[rigid snow]

coming up with names is really hard yes

unironically

[opaque wharf]

Be KDE

So naming is easy

[rigid snow]

KHuman

here you go

[opaque wharf]

This implies KTrain is a train

And konii is onii

[opaque wharf]

This is cursed ngl

[olive sable]

in Japanese is a term of endearment, often used by younger siblings to refer to their older brother

ye lets not do that

[rigid snow]

i don't get it why

[opaque wharf]

If anything it should be onee

[olive sable]

unless konii wants to be older brother of #programming then sure, but i wouldnt call her that myself

welp, my windows hdr broke again

[sage crag]

rr

[tender river]

resource record

[jaunty arch]

cursed

turning windows hdr on bricked my laptop once

[opaque wharf]

You've failed to sleep again

[tender river]

wdym failed its pretty early

[opaque wharf]

Wait, is it?

[tender river]

it is

[opaque wharf]

Oh my math is off

[tender river]

mhm

[opaque wharf]

It's almost 5 AM please undestand

[olive sable]

its an hour earlier than where im at, so since its 23.22 here its 22.22 there

decently early

[desert plaza]

esolangs

[molten island]

spoilers for worlde!!!
but

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

i did todays wordle so i wouldn get spoiled

[opaque wharf]

What COBOL does to a mf

[desert plaza]

erm activating sleep mode

[olive sable]

the other pen i was going to buy was 40% of this afternoon and now its ou of stock

fuck

[olive sable]

they dont sell them new anymore besides that last lenovo stock

so i had to buy a refurbished one

it may be used, but i saved a whole 3 euros

id just rather get a new one for that litle diffrence

apparently the lenovo freestyle app has been shadowbanned from the microsoft store.
and they're also now mixing in microsoft laptops inbetween the apps as ads

[opaque wharf]

What did you want to do with the tablet exactly? Is it a drawing tablet or Android tablet?

[olive sable]

both

[faint sandal]

"wow that was a really expensive app I just got"

[opaque wharf]

Oh, I didn't know there are tablet with both capabilities tbh

So, isn't it just an android and windows app then?

[olive sable]

the lenovo freestyle app lets you use your tablet as a 2nd monitor or as an input for your pc.

opposite way around works too

[opaque wharf]

https://github.com/H-M-H/Weylus

[olive sable]

i can for example stream android apps to my pc an dplay them on my pc without actual emulation

[opaque wharf]

This can be done with adb/scrcpy

[olive sable]

ok ye but this is wireless, and painless

it just connects

[opaque wharf]

So does scrcpy

It can use ADB over wifi

Painless is subjective tho

This is a sign Sam

Move to linux

[olive sable]

no

not now

[olive sable]

i couldnt get pc screen to tablet to work, i worked better on my laptop. but tablet to pc does work quite well

[opaque wharf]

This can be used on windows IIRC

[olive sable]

the official lenovo one should work too

but my pc cant find the tablet on the local network

[opaque wharf]

And yet it doesn't

[sage crag]

erf

[opaque wharf]

Oh there's also this GUI for scrcpy if you want to check it out and compare performance
https://github.com/SimonAKing/scrcpy-gui

[tender river]

900k loc changed

what

is hashcat that huge

[opaque wharf]

Maybe a single line is changed multiple times

[faint sandal]

the src is 21MB

there's a lot of opencl and gpu-specific code

[sage crag]

an intern got their hands on an LLM

huge code churn ensued

(surely)

[sage crag]

mlem

[olive sable]

i figured out why it wasnt working and why the app was shadowbanned on the microsoft store

they made a diffrent app that does the exact same thing

and you're supposed to use that now

the new one is nicer tho, you can sync your wallpaper

[opaque wharf]

Nice

[olive sable]

now i just need to find a background that will work

[opaque wharf]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Tetris_L.svg

Flip it and it's a perfect wallpaper

[olive sable]

ye nah

pass

i gotta admit tho, the touchscreen is suprisingly nice for using ms paint

https://tenor.com/view/rwk-priest-crow-awawawawa-awa-azumanga-daioh-gif-24354610

[opaque wharf]

A drawing tablet is nice for drawing. Shocking right

[olive sable]

i mean, its not actually a drawing tablet

its a cheap lenovo tablet that happens to be able to connect to windows

[opaque wharf]

Does the pen that you're looking for have pressure sensor?

[olive sable]

ye

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-nano-spinning-gif-12626501756826392034

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, that have the same function as drawing tablet alright

[stark needle]

wtf ur so stacked

[olive sable]

did you notice they deprecated freestyle?

[hoary lion]

for somewhat reasons, the art style reminds me of shinchan

[olive sable]

i used to play clas of clans a lot 2 years ago and before, but i got kinda bored

[olive sable]

its cuz i drew it with my big ass fingers

i dont have the pen yet sadly

[olive sable]

oh ye shadow, the pen you linked me was the wrong one

i need the precision pen 3 apparently

i ended up with the tab pen plus tho

its fine tho

[sage crag]

birds

[olive sable]

sure

birds

[opaque wharf]

Bored with the flower now?

[hoary lion]

birds

[sage crag]

i did not take this photo

i searched "mandarin duck"

[opaque wharf]

I did not even know a mandarin duck is a name

[olive sable]

i put all that effort into the drawing and i get skipped by konii in favour for birds

[opaque wharf]

My biology knowledge is very shallow

[hushed lintel]

Pretty sure the male is the pretty one too