programming

[rigid snow]

depends on how good it is

[olive sable]

"the model has better aesthetics than me" bro your hair is gray ofcourse it does

[patent walrus]

[hoary lion]

am hungy rn

ima drop

[olive sable]

bye

[glass flower]

they said api is next week

i think

[olive sable]

when agi?

[patent walrus]

[stark needle]

gpt6

[olive sable]

damn

[noble zodiac]

gpt666 is agi

[hoary lion]

trust

[olive sable]

oh fuck tutel is live

can he postpone for 15 min?

[rigid snow]

that looks fucking awful

[cosmic sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1369711927043035288/niuh-3x.gif

[glass flower]

now they should try to actually attach it to an api

[olive sable]

honestly the openai stream is ass anyways

[sick owl]

What is this graph

[glass flower]

to pull data

[rough bloom]

ikr, it's insane

[cosmic sphinx]

vani tell vedal to put timer to 15 minutes LULW

[olive sable]

[glass flower]

its insanely bad...

[olive sable]

they probably forgot to edit the graph after copy pasting the 30.8

[noble zodiac]

when the axis loses all meaning

[tender river]

see you're letting "rules" get in the way of innovation

[stark needle]

it wants WHAT for gpt5 access????

[tender river]

openai is disrupting the entire field of graphs

[olive sable]

is digital identity fraud illegal if the id is fake?

[rough bloom]

yes

[olive sable]

bwaa

[inner pike]

aint no fucking way

[sick owl]

You fokin wot

[bitter coral]

Anyways am going to watch eliv.

[sick owl]

Although to be fair if you ever paid them they have your info anyway

Name, address etc. are all in your banking details

[olive sable]

i want them to drop the code for that game they just showed so i can see how badly it fucked up

[stark needle]

true

[olive sable]

no way the cursor guy

[rough bloom]

another vibe-coding guy

[olive sable]

is his hair actually that colour? cuz it looks fake

[vital ingot]

actual orange hair

[stark needle]

CHAT I WAS SCAMMED

I VERIFIED AND GPT5 IS GONE

[olive sable]

?

[glass flower]

took your data and left

[noble zodiac]

you got IRL ip grabed

[olive sable]

they just stole his id card and dipped

[dusky jackal]

If someone makes an open-source AI to compete with it, maybe.

[sick owl]

Interpol is en route as we speak 🫡

o7 shad

[glass flower]

[rigid snow]

"If you just verified, it can take up to 15 minutes for access to propagate."

[stark needle]

DUDE I FOOKIN VERIFIED

[inner pike]

LMAOOOO

[rigid snow]

here it says that

[stark needle]

it says i am fully verified

[rough bloom]

nah, I mean because Cursor might be better now
Vedal loves vibe-coding

[sick owl]

Doesn't mean your actual perms have propagated yet

[stark needle]

fair

i will wait 15min

[olive sable]

how long is this openai presentation? cuz the longer they spend on this coding hsit the less interest i have for it

[stark needle]

idk

this is getting boring asf

[noble zodiac]

so whats the price?

[stark needle]

cheap

[sharp mantle]

wait until the end, they'll reveal that the entire powerpoint was made by gtp-5 zeroshot lol

[stark needle]

gemini 2.5 pro price

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/80m-increased-revenue-%26-redeploy-3-fte-gif-2319601784744478471

[olive sable]

honestly its very possible

[stark needle]

it was all chatgpt agents with Sora

[olive sable]

finaly ended

thank god

lmao they forgot his mic

[stark needle]

yea ill stop the vc

this is getting boring asf

[olive sable]

ye im bored

[sharp mantle]

trainwreck of a presentation, but its the least of their issues

[cosmic sphinx]

honestly, not horrible pricing

[opaque sigil]

wait, i didn't even notice this

[cosmic sphinx]

for comparison

[glass flower]

[tender river]

the future of graphs right there

[cosmic sphinx]

bigger = worse, therefore lower..?

[bitter coral]

Accurate axis names

[inner pike]

Huh ?

[desert plaza]

upside down graphs

[vital ingot]

is it over?

[tender river]

happy birthday

[sharp mantle]

yep, I hope gigagoogle drops their gemini 3

[olive sable]

hap b day

🎉

[rough bloom]

oh cool, ArtificialAnalysis has benchmarks for GPT-5 already
it's not looking good for coding somehow

[hoary lion]

I am NOT believing grok 4 on top

[glass flower]

btw.. do these benchmark have some tool calling or how exactly they work?

i feel like GPT-5 would be a lot better in actual code-bases

[rough bloom]

this specific benchmark is what GPT-5 sucked at
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2403.07974

[hoary lion]

There is no possible way Opus thinking gets defeated by flash 2.5

it just doesn't make sense

[sage crag]

fixed it

i hate misleading graphs

gr

[nocturne olive]

Whar you sillying about?

[tender river]

look at this graph #programming message

[nocturne olive]

And what may that be about?

[tender river]

and at htis graph #programming message

[tender river]

from gpt5 presentation

[sage crag]

i did not fix this graph

funny graph though

that one is even more egregious somehow

[nocturne olive]

So just pointless investor pleasing then

[tender river]

gpt5 generated graph

[sage crag]

lol

[tender river]

yomitan broke awa

[sacred spade]

Thinking won't solve much.

[rigid snow]

o3 is “thinking”-only

and 4o has no thinking option

what the hell is this

apparently i have not read my own message

[sacred spade]

And what’s the point of it if it barely helps on tasks with tons of code or text? Besides, they should focus on developing real reasoning rather than just next-word prediction.

[uneven pulsar]

i am deticated to find her wifi router port

[faint sandal]

just use nmap like a sane person

[uneven pulsar]

i am on mac

11.87.22

old version

[faint sandal]

nmap has been on macOS since at least powerpc era

so... 2006

[uneven pulsar]

idk how to use it on the cmd i am used to windows

so i though of coding it in python

[faint sandal]

you just call it like any other command line application

hell the official manual even tells you how step by step

https://nmap.org/book/inst-macosx.html

[rigid snow]

terminal? on a mac??! are you crazy??

[uneven pulsar]

idk

[south needle]

have you tried scanning 127.0.0.1. that's the ip of a friend of mine. last time he told me to visit his freshly made website http://127.0.0.1:8080

[rigid snow]

i'm joking dude

[faint sandal]

apparently you don't even need cli because zenmap is bundled with the nmap package by default on macos

which is the gui

[uneven pulsar]

no

i am rn doing it for someone

only 22%

[uneven pulsar]

onceits 100% i got the ip

[rigid snow]

literally brew install nmap

[uneven pulsar]

i have a 2013 macbook air look i dont know how to use it

[rigid snow]

and get homebrew if you don't have it

[uneven pulsar]

it said brew not a command

[faint sandal]

you don't even need homebrew

just download the dmg and double click lol

[rigid snow]

true

[uneven pulsar]

oh ok

[faint sandal]

did you even look at the instruction manual i sent

[uneven pulsar]

i am installing it

but i still think my python code could do it

[rigid snow]

they have a fucking installation guide for a .pkg in a .dmg

do they think macos users are insanely stupid

[faint sandal]

yes

considering there's this line

The terminal emulator in Mac OS X is called Terminal, and is located in the directory /Applications/Utilities. Open it and a terminal window appears. This is where you will type your commands.

[rigid snow]

[uneven pulsar]

some are really stupid

like they only know how to hold the laptop and look classy

maybe me

[rigid snow]

i probably look stupid

[mighty thorn]

bro

have they considered i might not want gpt 5

or might want 4o

[rigid snow]

who's they

[uneven pulsar]

i am stupid mashing on my keyboard trying to figure it out

[rigid snow]

at least you look classy doing it

that's what matters

[mighty thorn]

they

[rigid snow]

also this is hella outdated

it's not this easy anymore

[uneven pulsar]

like one time i was at a coffe shop i saw someone had a 4080 gaming laptop and he was only using paint and adobe that made me cry😭

he uses word and non demanding shit

like i wish if i owned that laptop😭

i felt like they just brought it too look stupid and fancy they dont even know wtf is a nvidea driver😭

[deft ember]

What does it mean when chat spams o7?

[olive sable]

either stream down or something bad happened

[south needle]

thats a man saluting

[rigid snow]

very programming related question

[mighty thorn]

okay my jailbreaks still seem to work so i've decided not to care

[rigid snow]

o7 is the same thing as F, they're both "paying respect"

[uneven pulsar]

well i have a lot to work with the nmap installation

[deft ember]

Wait, she can actually call Neuro and vice versa or is it just Vedal in the background?

[rigid snow]

they could call each other for a while

[deft ember]

Oh and wow, I always thought it was just they can talk and react to chat and anything else is someone in the background doing stuff behind the scenes.

[uneven pulsar]

yuh she can

she an ai takes commands and bluh orders stuff most of the time

[vestal prism]

i just saw the new versions and all versions available of chatgpt and remember that video that said "The vedal branding is all over the place"

meanwhile chatgpt droping like 8 to twelve diferent things with different names

[rigid snow]

oX is reasoning, Xo is omnimodal

[rough bloom]

except oX is also multi-/omnimodal and Xo barely existed (and is deprecated now I think)

[rigid snow]

pro, mini, nano are model sizes obviously

[vestal prism]

yea

[rough bloom]

and GPT-5, which dropped the o prefix entirely, seems to also do everything the previous models did

[rigid snow]

i think "omni" specifically refers to output modalities

in openais case

[rough bloom]

GPT-4o didn't generate images though

[rigid snow]

it does

[rough bloom]

that model is gpt-image-1

[sage crag]

openai naming scheme

[rigid snow]

damn liars

[rough bloom]

early 4o image generation was DALL-E tool calling
the new one is different

[rigid snow]

i am aware of that

[sage crag]

who could have foreseen this

[rigid snow]

i thought they made it work with an update or something

[rigid snow]

because i've only heard of that being referred to as "4o image gen"

[sage crag]

its always bime for companies to lie about their model capabilities

these companies survive essentially from model to model

[rough bloom]

nah, they promised a lot for 4o but never actually integrated it into that model I think
see the "Explorations of capabilities" section here: https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/

[tender river]

gpt o7

[vestal prism]

gpt o7

[rough bloom]

I also heard it referred to as 4o image generation but apparently it's a completely different API and just not actually 4o
otherwise why tf is there over a year (I think?) of time between the feature announcement and its release

[sage crag]

i wonder if it knows how many R are in strawberry yet

[rigid snow]

but also i wasn't thinking of image gen in regard to "omni", i was thinking of audio output, similarly to qwen2.5-omni

[vestal prism]

bananums

[rough bloom]

a part of their presentation today was how good GPT-5 audio is, so clearly the o prefix/suffix isn't needed for that anymore

[rigid snow]

gpt-5 sounds and looks better

based

4o was a needed distinction

because gpt-4 was text only

and a totally different model

[rough bloom]

no, they never needed it
should've just done GPT-4.1 and said it was multimodal

[rigid snow]

they still ended up doing 4.1

which wasn't

[rough bloom]

yeah, but way way later

[noble zodiac]

ffs, the first 4 of the top 5 posts on HN are about gpt-5. I miss the days when it was more than 90% ai glazing on the frontpage

[vestal prism]

yea

[tender river]

the real content is in the comments

it rivals reddit

[noble zodiac]

At this point the people on r/wallstreetbets have a better understanding of where AI is going than HN

[cosmic sphinx]

HN?

[noble zodiac]

https://news.ycombinator.com/news

[opaque wharf]

Wait, I thought HN is HackerNews?

[noble zodiac]

it is

[opaque wharf]

Oh it is lol

I never noticed the URL

That's certainly something

[abstract flint]

My chatGPT just said heck

[opaque wharf]

GPT needs Nere-sama

[cosmic sphinx]

LMFAO the self burn with this response example

[hoary lion]

hm

new GPT5 is getting great reviews from RP community

[plain wagon]

If I wanna start learning how to code with an interest towards specifically AI, where would I start? I wanna be able to at least know enough to work with it and make adjustments if needed.

I don't have any plans for anything even 1/10ths as ambitious as Neuro/Evil (at most, I would want to develop a music-related assistant to sell as a product)

[hoary lion]

[hoary lion]

python

[olive sable]

[hoary lion]

and pytorch

[opaque wharf]

That does not bode well

[hoary lion]

we kinda missed this interaction at #programming

[hoary lion]

huh

[plain wagon]

wym?

[opaque wharf]

I mean as in, the amount of ...content, that will be made by the RP community

[hoary lion]

ah well, anyway they use API

so content would not affect future censorship

and mostly the discussion was about how gpt5 chat model inherited 4o-latest

making it likable yk

[hoary lion]

there were lots of "i want to make " interactions which eventually led to "I want to do AI"
i haven't seen it much lately

[plain wagon]

Lol fair enough. I am not as so arrogant as to believe that, with no programming experience, I could work with AI anytime the next year or so at least probably.

The best I could do is vibe code with Grok but that has its limits and is not a sufficient substitute from what I hear

[hoary lion]

fair, a year is enough to comprehend pretty much most code out there

Claude helps me to vibe model a lot

although performance consideration must be done manually

[plain wagon]

Is that one better for AI specific stuff?

I think someone else told me that at some point recently too lol

[hoary lion]

I'll recommend gemini?

if you want to resort at web UI interface

I like CLI versions more, so I chose claude

I also want to recommend using lightning

[rigid snow]

literally get opencode or any other cli agent harness out of 100 that exist

and use any model you want

[plain wagon]

Not sure what cli is tbh I have zero knowledge in this field, absolutely none

Coding language interface, maybe

[opaque wharf]

Command Line Interface

As opposed to GUI - Graphical User Interface

[plain wagon]

oof i don't want a CLI 💀

that scares me

[opaque wharf]

Eh, it's just like reading

[rigid snow]

in the case of these ai coding tools it's literally nothing but a gimmick as far as you're concerned

them being "cli"

[plain wagon]

yeah, that's why i wanna get some fundamental knowledge and use it moreso as a tool

then i can go through and fix the parts i need, though there's always the issue that ALL of it is shit and it's easier to not even do it that way

[rigid snow]

no what i mean is you're not gonna be lost, they are actual gui apps they're just rendered in the terminal

claude code

[opaque wharf]

Technically speaking, that is a TUI - Terminal User Interface

[rigid snow]

yep

[plain wagon]

Are there any good free ones to get started?

[rigid snow]

the gemini one is free right

?

https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli

it's 100 requests per day

on free tier

[opaque wharf]

Or you can use whatever code editor directly if you want to vibe code anyway

[plain wagon]

i have VS Code

i have Python and VS Code installed atm

[rigid snow]

github copilot free tier, 50 requests per month

ai is expensive sadly, free offerings suck

[rigid snow]

but this is pretty solid tbf

[glass flower]

thats why you use local ones and don't get trapped by AI Agents

[opaque wharf]

100 req/day with max token per request is indeed quite generous for AI

[opaque wharf]

What is a good local model one for coding tho? I don't think small model are THAT capable

[plain wagon]

i doubt i could use a local model lol

[glass flower]

Qwen3-coder is a good one. it depends on how big you want to go

i use qwen2.5-coder for my autocomplete

[rigid snow]

"qwen3-coder" "local"

[glass flower]

yeah.. i can run the 30b one

[opaque wharf]

Do you have a GPU with at least 16GB of VRAM?

[glass flower]

at 30 tk/s

[plain wagon]

💀 I have an integrated graphics card. "intel irisXE"

i don't have have 1GB of VRAM I don't think

[opaque wharf]

I know that feel lmao

[plain wagon]

the IrisXE has 512mb of "graphic shading" or something like that lol

[glass flower]

yeah... with a integrated one you might not be able to run it... maybe if it has a NPU

[plain wagon]

I do music, never did I think I'd need a graphics card

NPU?

[opaque wharf]

Not even NPU. The requirement for the NPU will be insane

[glass flower]

the thing that the new copilot+ laptops have in their cpu's

[plain wagon]

huh, interesting

[opaque wharf]

Wait, does the NPU use system RAM or have their own RAM?

[glass flower]

a small qwen2.5 coder model might run

[rigid snow]

even sonnet 4 rarely succeeds at what i ask it to do. i don't think a 30b model is any good when claude sucks

[rough bloom]

NPUs basically always use system RAM

[opaque wharf]

Oh, then yeah, just throw more RAM with NPU

[glass flower]

the size of a model doesn't mean how good it is

[rigid snow]

it kinda does in this case

[glass flower]

it depends on the training. a 30b model can easily outperform a 280b model if trained correctly

i don't really use the chat or agent feature... so idk.

[rigid snow]

yep there it is

[glass flower]

the gpt 20b can also do stuff i guess

[rigid snow]

i'm talking agent stuff purely

i tried qwen3-coder 480b, it's fine at best at agent stuff

[glass flower]

it can definitely do agent stuff.. but i can't tell you how good it is.

what about devstral

[opaque wharf]

I think afuyun is more experienced in using AI agent

[rigid snow]

never tried

[opaque wharf]

Like that one time his AI agent check the 2TB drive file integrity twice

[rigid snow]

i don't really ask them for shit because every time i do i regret it

wasted time and money

[glass flower]

just like a real dev

[rigid snow]

and when i do i pick a bigger model so it at least comes close to what i want

[glass flower]

i like to program. so im generally adverse to agentic coding. i like to know how my codebase works

and i don't want to pay for it

[opaque wharf]

Well you can do agentic coding and still understand the code too

[rigid snow]

i already put $60 on openrouter on a whim might as well use them sometimes

[glass flower]

i have not seen a single agentic coding agent produce code that i would ever use

[opaque wharf]

At least I know copilot extension ask if you would like to apply the change made by the agent

[glass flower]

all agentic tools do that... unless you tell it to just skip and auto-apply

[rigid snow]

oh i've seen them do it, it's super simple stuff usually

[rigid snow]

it's configurable

everywhere basically

[glass flower]

like changing existing codebases to add a simple feature sure... but i would never let it do anything major

especially in game programming agentic coders suck ass.. which kinda makes sense. but still

[rigid snow]

i bet it would perform great if your game is threejs spaghetti

[glass flower]

true

[opaque wharf]

Yeah same, I basically use them to replace code generator/boilerplate generator

[glass flower]

but have you seen the gpt 5 demo of that... it looks ass

[opaque wharf]

They are great for those

[glass flower]

100% and for that even local models do great

[opaque wharf]

No more writing CLI/custom tooling with template file to generate ORM table

[rigid snow]

give me a db uuuuuhhh with users and uuh posts

[opaque wharf]

Well, I've made the JSONSchema for validation ahead of time anyway

So why not

[cosmic sphinx]

so if all other models are getting scrapped, that means free users only have the option of gpt-5 without a rollback if we hit the limit

either whatever low ass version of gpt-5 is gonna be unlimited, or free users will get limited messages now

[glass flower]

if you hit the limit it gives you the mini model

[rigid snow]

oh my god

[cosmic sphinx]

i've no clue when its gonna update to gpt-5 here

[rigid snow]

is 5-mini nearly as horrible as 4o-mini

[glass flower]

[rigid snow]

4o mini suuuucked

[glass flower]

i've only seen the theo video about it. and it seems that mini is half as good as the normal version and nano is half as good as mini

atleast according to his skatebench chart..

[rigid snow]

did he make a skateboarding benchmark

too on the nose

[glass flower]

the way it works is he describes a skateboard trick and the models have to guess what it is

[faint sandal]

what are they gonna do when they hit gpt 10

[rigid snow]

gpt x

just like the iphone

[faint sandal]

what about 11

[glass flower]

and then they merge with grok and twitter

[opaque wharf]

GPT II electric boogaloo

|test|

[rigid snow]

spoiler fail

[opaque wharf]

Huh, I thought there will be special formatting for ||

[rigid snow]

it's ||two||

[opaque wharf]

Oh it's to format spoiler?

||hello||

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[glass flower]

i would be very interested to see if GPT-5 can beat pokemon

[glass flower]

someone should make a neuro-integration for pokemon. so we can have Neuro plays pokemon

[opaque wharf]

Which version?

There are like a bazillion of them

[glass flower]

imagine if neuro beats it faster than all the leading AI models

[glass flower]

red/blue it seems

[opaque wharf]

I'd rather see Neuro play this https://scriptwelder.itch.io/waterworks

[rigid snow]

ok 5-mini is not near 4o in language understanding

[plain wagon]

Strangled Red version

[rigid snow]

the full one

[stark needle]

Is 5 mini worse

[rigid snow]

*in language based on vibes only

let me directly compare

it totally is, asked both to generate a song

5-mini fails to rhyme in russian

spectacularly

like not even close

4o aces

ig it makes sense

[rigid snow]

it still fails in english

not that badly tho

[cosmic sphinx]

'wow look at this game gpt-5 created in one try'

is a google dinosaur copy with different textures
you can jump infinitely by holding spacebar
speed ui is broken, it literally starts at 140 as the zero speed
the blocks are actually not stationary but keep moving towards you, and thats why speed is calculated as 140

[rigid snow]

140 being the starting speed is intended no?

[small anvil]

So uh... one thing led to another and I ended up corrupting sda3 (the partition with all my OS files on it)

[rigid snow]

since it's a chrome dino clone

[small anvil]

Apparently the superblocks are corrupted

[small anvil]

Another thing is that I tried btrfs check --repair, tried repairing super blocks, chunks, logs, and other stuff and it still didnt fix, so I think I might just reinstall

Thankfully my other drives arent corrupted

just sda

[desert plaza]

bro what r u doing

[cosmic sphinx]

idk if thats the case in the og

they finally solved math

AIME2025 got benchmaxxed before year was even done

gg

[small anvil]

Little bit of shenanigans I guess

[rigid snow]

there is no speed display and you definitely don't start stationary

[small anvil]

I honestly dont know how I did it

I think I was mounting something

And then I fucked something up

And then another thing led to another

Ended up pkilling something

And then rebooting

And then it put me in emergency/maintenance mode

[desert plaza]

[small anvil]

Im just glad nothing else broke.. might have to move to an immutable file system

[desert plaza]

once upon a time i deleted over a 100 GB of data because i typed in an rm -rf command, but accidentally pressed enter before i finished typing in the full path

deleted the whole dir instead of a single file

[rigid snow]

why -r then

if single file

easily preventable

[opaque wharf]

Habit

I too type -rf out of habit

[desert plaza]

idk probably a subdir not a single file

[warped narwhal]

that's why you comment out rm rf commands until you are ready to send them 😉

[small anvil]

Me when i sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root

[opaque wharf]

Luckily deleted file and corrupted partition are easy to recover

[desert plaza]

[small anvil]

Well uh

[opaque wharf]

Since the file is still there

[small anvil]

Wait let me just send the images

[opaque wharf]

The partition image?

Or the picture?

[small anvil]

Pictures of me debugging

[rigid snow]

the whole fucking drive image, just drop it in here

[opaque wharf]

I sure hope you didn't upload a whole ass partition image here lol

[small anvil]

cat /dev/sda

And the funny thing is this happened right as I was leaving for holiday..

[opaque wharf]

I mean as in this way
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/File_recovery

[small anvil]

Ahhhh

I see i see

I might use this as a lesson to buy a new SSD instead

Frickin 100GB ssd from like 2012

Gotta get a 2TB one instead

You shouldve seen my face when I saw the emergency screen bro my heart stopped 😭

I have way too many important projects (that I didnt backup cause im an idiot) on that drive

[opaque wharf]

I'm too familiar with boot error now that I am no longer panicking when I got dropped into emergency shell

[small anvil]

I just dont know what caused it

Cause the main problem is the superblocks

Some of them are corrupted, but I can try copying another safe one over

But it just

Refuses not to do anything

I even tried with fsck

Or whatever its called

Which then led me to using btrfs

And still it didnt fix

[opaque wharf]

Wdym led you to use btrfs? Did you just re format your whole drive?

[small anvil]

Theres a check command on btrfs, so I used it
Its supposed to be a last-resort if fsck doesnt work

btrfs check --repair

Even still, it couldnt read the device so I just gave up and left for holiday

Too much stress man

[desert plaza]

too bad you don't have superblock backups

[small anvil]

I reckon I could fix it once I get back, I was just under a lot of stress cause my parents were packing up and were about to leave

[small anvil]

Well the thing is I think I do, I used a command to list all of the super blocks I have, and I have serveral blocks, the problem is that it just wouldnt try to repair corrupted ones

It would just flatline and then die

Which isnt the best

But I could try to think something out

[desert plaza]

welp, time to manually repair

surely you could

if you have backups

i wouldn't know how tho, i'm not a file system expert

[small anvil]

Neither am I but ill make it work somehow

[desert plaza]

that's the spirit

[small anvil]

Something with the extent tree and free space tree are broken

Which probably is a side affect of the super blocks being corrupted

Something to note is that I kept the nxlang compiler on sda3 so uhhh

If that breaks then Ill have to remake most of it

[desert plaza]

well, do you have storage capacity to image the broken drive

would be a good idea to back it up if you could

[small anvil]

Gotta get that first

I was able to recover some directories and files, albeit just a few

But I reckon that if I get like a 120GB drive or flash storage I could try to recover most of it

I just got paid too so I could probably afford an SSD and a flash

(hopefully)

Anyways im going to try to sleep

Good night programming chat

Mimimimi

[desert plaza]

imma sleep too gn

[sage crag]

im never sleep

🎤

[olive sable]

we know

[olive sable]

hi never sleep, im debugging my vulkan

[tender river]

my ereader sleeps when i close its cover

[opaque wharf]

G A M E

[tender river]

which is bad because it loses input capabilities after waking up

[opaque wharf]

That's expected no?

[opaque wharf]

Oh

[glass pulsar]

heya

[tender river]

hi

[glass pulsar]

hruuu

[tender river]

procrastinating on going to sleep

[glass pulsar]

can you help me?
Do you know a good IDE for Java?

[tender river]

hmm

[glass pulsar]

also, GO TO SLEEP 🙁

[tender river]

i think intellij idea is probably a safe choice

[glass pulsar]

agree

[tender river]

android studio is based on that

[glass pulsar]

but heavy

[tender river]

then just use vscode

[glass pulsar]

welp

true

[opaque wharf]

Are they any good for Java tho?

[glass pulsar]

true as well lol

my friend told me eclipse

but idk

[tender river]

bwa

[opaque wharf]

Oh god

[tender river]

havent heard anything about eclipse for ages

it used to be the industry standard but intellij took over now

[glass pulsar]

yep

[opaque wharf]

If you're developing for Java I'd say just bite the bullet and go with IntelliJ

[tender river]

vscode can work too as long as you install necessary plugins https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/java

intellij is the standard but nowadays the editor ecosystem is fairly open because of lsp

[glass pulsar]

thx my friends

[tender river]

you can try multiple options and see what you like!

[glass pulsar]

now, go to bed 😠

[opaque wharf]

Netbeans is also an option if eclipse is on the table

[glass pulsar]

you need to sleep my friend

[glass pulsar]

NO WAY

[tender river]

night

[glass pulsar]

netbeans is a PAIN

[glass pulsar]

night night :3

[tender river]

actually no i will read for a bit and drink tea i'll sleep in like 20m

[glass pulsar]

okay then

[opaque wharf]

All I know about slavic culture and their love for tea is from Boris lol

[sage crag]

done

build script rewritten in python

cross platform maybe yay

[tender river]

[sage crag]

sory you wont be seeing this on the repo for another 3 years

mm its a bit chonkier, vaguely annoying

i didnt even implement environment vars

[tender river]

i'm working on a library for type level combinators for functions and data types based on what i sent you

[sage crag]

this is probably sufficient though

[olive sable]

i keep getting thi guy in my yt shorts while i rot in bed
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PeqzABhQqT0

and bro how you gonna align the fan

and not notice

ITS FACING THE WRONG WAY

oh my days

unless those are not the same type of fan???

as far as i could tell both are spinning clockwise tho

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm, kwispy bread

So, how is the game engine progressing Sam?

[olive sable]

idk

im trying to add a vertex buffer

[tender river]

we have build.zig at home:

[opaque wharf]

Meson hblang when?

You already use python anyway

Or maybe SCons

[tender river]

its all small because we dont have to do any dependency management, just build and link a static binary

[sage crag]

when petal is real

[sage crag]

ssl should be handled by an external library right

[tender river]

should, yes

just like git

[sage crag]

yesh, ssl implementation not be in lily

thank code gods

mm i feel incoherent

[tender river]

cohere

now

[opaque wharf]

Why is your naming scheme flower themed?

Meanwhile chay is "not LUA"

[sage crag]

i like flowers

[tender river]

[opaque sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1403162811965636721/1222288209900343366.gif

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1126222727422955601.gif?size=16&quality=lossless

[opaque wharf]

Hey toast, I made you

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

alternatively, go to sleep i know you woke up before me

i'm almost done with my tea so gn chat

[opaque wharf]

You're one to talk

[olive sable]

[tender river]

i am many to talk

[sage crag]

[tender river]

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Even after stream Evil still has not tweeted anything

[mighty thorn]

And now I can’t use gpt 5 anymore

I guess I got the point across

[hoary lion]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1220556661836484608/1220556725640499230/EvilGifofCringe.gif

hello programming

evil ded

[olive sable]

hello

[hoary lion]

sam is always here

[olive sable]

i spend more than half the day with disocrd open probably

that being said i do touch grass daily

it may only be my own backyard but grass is grass

[hoary lion]

what about other grasses

only touching the same green is not healthy

[olive sable]

wdym other green?

i dont smoke

[hoary lion]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1220556661836484608/1220556725640499230/EvilGifofCringe.gif

this joke is not hit

[olive sable]

i dont get it

[hoary lion]

i mean to go really outside

outside from your house

do some photosynthesis of vitamin D

[olive sable]

for what? what does the outside have to offer that my backyard doesnt?

also its 2am

[hoary lion]

wh

go to sleep sam

[olive sable]

no

my bedtime is 5am till 15

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-flip-inabakumori-osage-chan-osage-chan-gif-1116699474585113794

i strongly advise to have better sleep schedule

[olive sable]

i tried that but tbh i didn tlike it

waking up at 6am made me feel worse tbh

[hoary lion]

i think you should find a middle ground of 6am and 3pm

[olive sable]

im quite comfortable not habving to talk to people like this

[hoary lion]

am sorry

[olive sable]

sorry for what?

[hoary lion]

i thought you don't want to talk about this matter

[olive sable]

i dont really mind

[hoary lion]

or maybe im hallucinating

im confused rn

[olive sable]

[hoary lion]

maybe i am the one who is sleep deprived

[olive sable]

im a bit tired but not sleep deprived

i sleep a comfortable amount actually

[opaque wharf]

It is I who is sleep deprived

[hoary lion]

unnecessarily tough statement

[opaque wharf]

Well going insane is just the usual part of #programming

[olive sable]

ignore the 3rd, that was the beach episode so i had to get up at 7am, and the 6th was when my friends were over to watch the ado bluray

besides the days i interact with people i sleep well

[bitter coral]

Lucky, my sleep schedule is messed up so the when I sleep is somewhat random.

[opaque sigil]

i would love to look at this but knox says no

[bitter coral]

I definitely didn’t just wake up from a 3 hour nap.

[opaque sigil]

thanks for being annoying samsung, appreciate it

[olive sable]

wdym look at this? like you want my full sleep data?

[opaque sigil]

no mine

[faint sandal]

I've been running on 3 hours of sleep

[opaque wharf]

His own data

[olive sable]

isnt your own sleep data available to yourself?

[bitter coral]

I had 3 hrs of sleep that’s why I took that nap.

[opaque wharf]

Knox is being annoying

[olive sable]

wdym?

[opaque sigil]

Samsung doesn't like to think so

[olive sable]

what

[faint sandal]

unauthorized dogshit

[opaque sigil]

they have an e-fuse that blows when you unlock the bootloader, rendering half of knox useless permanently

[opaque wharf]

e-fuse was a mistake

[olive sable]

they have a what?

[opaque wharf]

A tiny transistor whose sole purpose is to burn and die permanently if set off

Set off as in, being driven to the active state

[opaque sigil]

you can make the software think it hasn't been tripped but that obviously only works if you're rooted

just don't be like me and accidentally enable encrypted backups because it will refuse to do anything once that spoofing is gone

had to root again just to turn that shit off

[opaque wharf]

It should be impossible to accidentally brick a device like that but here we are

[faint sandal]

the only thing that would have made it worth it is the fuse would physically burn and emit smoke from your phone

[opaque sigil]

i wouldn't mind a reason to get rid of this phone tbh

[opaque wharf]

Oh it is physically burnt. But the transistor is just that tiny and inside the black IC covering

[faint sandal]

yeah but I mean more in a dramatic fashion

[opaque wharf]

Pixel do that but with the battery. They are too excited

[olive sable]

does discord have something to freeze the meember list liek how you can freeze task manager from moving around?

cuz the list in neurocord is fucking ridiculous to find anyone in

[faint sandal]

no because the member list isn't even fully downloaded

the ws only sends a chunk at a time

[opaque wharf]

It's using websocket?

[faint sandal]

always has been

it's a mix of REST and ws

[opaque wharf]

I could understand using WS for chat, but not for the list

But oh well

[opaque sigil]

Did you forget there can be hundreds of thousands of people in the member list

[olive sable]

i did not, i painfully realize that

[small anvil]

hey chat

i have awakened

[olive sable]

i tkeeps breaking too like what in the fuck is this

[small anvil]

the clones are spreading

[covert bane]

Chat, is giving a llm dataset raw binary and definitions for speech generation from text using raw binary genius or stupid?

[olive sable]

i gave up

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

Probably stupid but who knows

There are no patterns in binary data

Okay there kinda are

But not enough

[covert bane]

Literally

Generate tts, convert it to raw binary. Add raw binary as prompt. Return tts as raw binary.

And also wtf is that model for response

[opaque sigil]

Is it just pcm or are you encoding it

[covert bane]

(I didnt make this. Someone else in my dev team lol)

Just raw binary from what im reading from the code

Probably pcm

[covert bane]

Notes said to add around 28000 examples for audio output alone

[opaque sigil]

It's mp3

gl with that

[covert bane]

Is it different from pcm?

(I didnt make this like I said)

[opaque wharf]

Everyday #programming stray further from god

[olive sable]

Pcm is just raw wave amplitude data

Mp3 is encoded

[covert bane]

Ooh, so i should edit it to convert to pcm, no?

[covert bane]

Oooh

(I totally understand that lol)

[olive sable]

The wave is your audio

[opaque wharf]

Sound is a wave

In range of 1 to -1

[covert bane]

No I mean the numbers on the side

[olive sable]

X axis is time

Ah

Ye thats just the binary

[opaque wharf]

The lowest point being a binary 0

[covert bane]

Oooh

[opaque wharf]

Equivalent to the wave amplitude of -1

[olive sable]

Normaized uint range basicly

[covert bane]

Actually, chat, how many examples of binaries do I need to input until the model can understand it?

[olive sable]

Nah i mixed them up

Sint

Not uint

[olive sable]

Probably a lot

[covert bane]

(We have like, a custom architecture edit not just pattern recognition)
Not sure if this is the one with the update

Maybe this?

[covert bane]

28k good enough for each thing? (Thing being each system, audio output, input, etc)

[olive sable]

Idk

Mam this is a Wendy's gamedev

I make games

[covert bane]

Uhhh, sir this is neuro's ai talks

We're talking about AIs

[olive sable]

This is just #programming

The least on-topic programming chat in existance

[covert bane]

True

[olive sable]

But ye idk, well have to wait for someone who know what they're talking about to answer the question

[midnight sigil]

[covert bane]

K

[midnight sigil]

train an AI that can interpret awa or hblang

[covert bane]

What is awa?

[midnight sigil]

it's a language

https://github.com/TempTempai/AWA5.0/

[opaque wharf]

It could be uint

[sick owl]

Okay, I'll give OpenAI this

Its pretty cool that GPT 5 is on the free tier

Albeit with limits, but still

Going back to the old GPT-4 system was a good decision

[sharp mantle]

random, I totally forgot about this lol

[sick owl]

So near yet so far

[midnight sigil]

prediction

can it predict stock price

[umbral thorn]

[sick owl]

To the surprise of no-one o3 stomped Grk 4 in the kaggle chess tourney

[opaque sigil]

2.5-1.5?????

[umbral thorn]

[opaque wharf]

The score is generated by an AI. Please understand

[sick owl]

Four games, .5 constitutes a draw

[sharp mantle]

Only off by 30 hours 1 minute, I‘ll take it. Wasn’t able to set the confidence any smaller anyways mid June. Community prediction was 14th Aug

[umbral thorn]

[opaque wharf]

There is nothing holy about that

[umbral thorn]

@true hemlock me pc whenn h

[true hemlock]

my dealer can't find the cpu yet 😭

[true hemlock]

i don't really wanna spend $900 AUD on the 7950x so im still counting on my dealer's engineering sample 7950x that they're selling me for 450 AUD

they're quite busy so might took weeks for it

[opaque wharf]

Bro why tf does it sounds like a shady dealing only for a silicone lmao

[true hemlock]

dw i know the dealer personally lol

but yeah there's already the deal, just would took some time and i don't see a point with paying the full 900 bucks for the actual thing when i can get the engineering sample for half the cost with just slightly lower clocks

alternatively there's 5950x for $400 AUD rn but that means i need to sell my B850 and get the am4 mobo

[umbral thorn]

gamba gamba

[midnight sigil]

gamba

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-gold-cases-unbox-reaction-gif-10790529016447782587

[fast pagoda]

tapping the sign

re: 2387 billion hours ago someone said programming off topic

[midnight sigil]

that's too many lines

copilot containment breach

[fast pagoda]

he said fk ur selection

[faint dirge]

i remember a while back vedal made the neuro api public so people could make mods. is that still out if so where can i find it

[midnight sigil]

https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk

[bitter coral]

that should be findable in https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1336984506489376779

[faint dirge]

thanks

[mighty thorn]

My opinion of GPT-5 has flipped a good 3-4 times today

But in the end

I’m a fan

[faint dirge]

is this a good place to put this? the other day i programed a basic neural network from scratch in godot

its approximating 0.5

[bitter coral]

nice, I'm trying to make an snn in godot though training it seems like a challenge.

[faint dirge]

cool, ive not seen much about what a snn is, this is the first project ive worked on about neural networks

[bitter coral]

I would also recommend finding a way to visualize the network.

[faint dirge]

i did, its just the video didnt record the scene

its just a graph that shows the layers and nodes

[bitter coral]

Who in the world Named this node?? Ive been needing this node but i didnt see it.

[faint dirge]

i also tried to train it to recognize if a face is in an image or not but i couldnt find a good data set

looking at the readme file in the neurosdk would it be feasible to make a yomi hustle mod for this

[noble zodiac]

https://www.vibechart.net/

[midnight sigil]

is neuro even capable of doing complex combos

[faint dirge]

no idea but it would be funny to see what she does

[fast pagoda]

kek

amazing that they released a state of the art model along with a new SOTA in shitty copium AI charting

[midnight sigil]

CLI

oh wait I did something dumb

there we go

we have cli help now

[hoary lion]

vibe awalang coding soon™

[midnight sigil]

when vibe coding hblang

[hoary lion]

not happening

[midnight sigil]

@opaque wharf you can now build with make

[bitter coral]

At least I can scroll now, I still need to make a lot of changes and make it so I can group them but its marginally more useable now.

[midnight sigil]

I CLICKED ON THE WRONG THEME

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[hoary lion]

unless you turned all your lights off, you'll be fine

[midnight sigil]

surely I did not

copilot too smort

[hoary lion]

now this is unacceptable

[midnight sigil]

why

[ivory plinth]

we participate in a mild amount of tomfoolery

[midnight sigil]

I'm glad theme arguments aren't on the bingo

[hoary lion]

"mild" is a understatement tbh

[ivory plinth]

ok i set it back

[midnight sigil]

what theme you use

[ivory plinth]

standard dark

[midnight sigil]

[fast pagoda]

guess they werent kidding about replacing everything with 5

that's crazy

gpt 5 is all u need - sama

[midnight sigil]

when gpt-6

[rough bloom]

they're already messing up the naming again, wtf is GPT-5 Pro
I thought we only had the normal one, Mini, and Nano

[fast pagoda]

pro is replacement for o3-pro i presume

5 thinking is replacement for o series

5 is replacement for normal gpt4o/4/4.1

[blissful geyser]

from what i know GPT-5 just has all the thinking feature integrated without needing to manually toggle the think deeper option

[fast pagoda]

i assune they are just

[blissful geyser]

and its kinda faster

[fast pagoda]

reasoning effort settings

basically

gpt-5 = leans towards low effort or no specific reasoning effort specified, gpt-5 thinking is "medium effort" and pro is "high effort"

or whatever they called pro before

turbo giga effort

mode

[faint sandal]

if gpt is so good why can't it do my work for me yet

[rough bloom]

yeah, this seems likely
though they could've just done this without making up new names for it...

[fast pagoda]

i would imagine it's just to make people not start malding that they lost their pro effort mode for $200

[fast pagoda]

was just reading about how they are getting dummy gud at pentesting & "hacking competitions" (not that it's exactly what your work is obv but related dont kill me pls)

[faint sandal]

i didn't have the conversation saved but gemini was ass at writing yara rules

[midnight sigil]

write documents on cyber security so gpt can learn

[fast pagoda]

like CTF type competitions they are p good at apparently

[faint sandal]

ok but that's not what i do at work

nor what most ppl in the field do

[faint sandal]

i just asked gemini to write a yara rule for an obfuscated javascript

it proceeded to deobfuscate the javascript and match the strings from the deobfucated script

that's not what i asked it to do

when i corrected it was like ok let me rewrite that so it matches the hexified strings

and then it wrote hex matching string rules

all of the yara rules i've asked it to write have been ass

even simple ones

[fast pagoda]

i have asked gpt 5 pro to write a generic yara rule for sussy js obfuscation
i have absolutely 0 comprehension of how yara rules work other than that theyre some sort of heuristic pattern thing

surely it'll be flawless

especially without a specific thing to target

because that seems to be kinda part of it

[faint sandal]

i asked gpt5 to do the same thing

it managed to write EVEN worse rules

[fast pagoda]

kek

[opaque sigil]

I'd be surprised if they ever get good at that sort of thing

[faint sandal]

idk how this is possible

borderline intern-level of rule writing

[fast pagoda]

honestly given that they are kinda giant pattern matchers i'm more surprised they aren't good at it

[rough bloom]

bad prompt

[fast pagoda]

lack of data ig

[faint sandal]

why would you try to match common log formats

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-dale-doback-step-brothers-yes-i-agree-gif-1579811350903017250

[faint sandal]

consider the following obfuscated javascript; I'd like you to write a yara rule that would match the obfuscated script. try to match features that may be present across this specific family of code and not match the obfuscation features. you also should not attempt to write rules that would match an deobfucated version of the script.

tells it to not write rule that would explicitly match deobfuscated version of the script
writes it anyways

[fast pagoda]

BEHOLD

/*
  js_obfuscated.yar
  Generic heuristics for obfuscated JavaScript.

  Notes:
  - Adjust thresholds (# of matches and lengths) to balance FP/FN for your data.
  - The math.entropy() gate helps catch high-entropy text (encoded blobs) even
    when JS tokens are sparse. Remove it if your YARA build lacks the math module.
*/

import "math"

private rule JS_Is_Probably_Text
{
    meta:
        description = "Lightweight gate: looks like JavaScript/HTML+JS text"
    strings:
        $js_kw1 = "function" ascii nocase
        $js_kw2 = "var " ascii nocase
        $js_kw3 = "let " ascii nocase
        $js_kw4 = "const " ascii nocase
        $js_kw5 = "=>"
        $html_script = "<script" ascii nocase
        $js_use1 = "window." ascii nocase
        $js_use2 = "document." ascii nocase
    condition:
        any of ($js_*)
}

rule JS_Obfuscated_Generic_Heuristic : javascript obfuscation generic
{
    meta:
        description = "Generic heuristic for obfuscated JavaScript (eval/unescape/Base64/hex arrays, packers, Obfuscator.io patterns)"
        author = "ChatGPT"
        date = "2025-08-08"
        version = "1.3"
        confidence = "heuristic, may require tuning"
    strings:
        // Suspicious APIs / constructs
        $eval        = "eval(" ascii nocase
        $func        = "Function(" ascii nocase
        $unescape    = "unescape(" ascii nocase
        $fromchar    = "String.fromCharCode(" ascii nocase
        $write       = "document.write(" ascii nocase
        $atob        = "atob(" ascii nocase
        $setTimeout  = "setTimeout(" ascii nocase
        $setInterval = "setInterval(" ascii nocase

        // Classic packer/obfuscator signatures
        $packer1 = /eval\(function\(\w{1,3},\w{1,3},\w{1,3},\w{1,3},\w{1,3},\w{1,3}\)\{/ ascii
        $packer2 = /while\(c--\)\s*if\(k\[c\]\)\s*\{/ ascii

        // Obfuscator.io-style (_0x**** identifiers and hex indexing)
        $obfio_sym = /_0x[0-9a-f]{4,}/ ascii nocase
        $obfio_idx = /\[\s*['"]0x[0-9a-f]{2,3}['"]\s*\]/ ascii nocase

        // JSFuck (long runs of only ![]()+ characters)
        $jsfuck = /[!\[\]\(\)\+]{120,}/ ascii

        // Long escaped runs / encoded blobs
        $hex_esc = /\\x[0-9A-Fa-f]{2}(?:\\x[0-9A-Fa-f]{2}){25,}/ ascii
        $uni_esc = /%u[0-9A-Fa-f]{4}(?:%u[0-9A-Fa-f]{4}){12,}/ ascii
        $hex_arr = /(0x[0-9a-f]{2,3}\s*,\s*){24,}/ ascii nocase
        $b64_blob = /['"]?[A-Za-z0-9+\/]{160,}={0,2}['"]?/ ascii

    condition:
        // Gate: looks like JS text OR high-entropy content (encoded/packed)
        ( JS_Is_Probably_Text or math.entropy(0, filesize) >= 6.0 )
        and
        (
            // Strong signatures (packer or JSFuck)
            any of ($packer*) or (#jsfuck > 0)
            or
            // Token + encoded-blob combo
            (
                ( #eval + #func + #fromchar + #unescape + #atob + #write + #setTimeout + #setInterval ) >= 2
                and ( #hex_esc + #uni_esc + #hex_arr + #b64_blob ) >= 1
            )
            or
            // Obfuscator.io-like density: many _0x symbols + at least one decoder token
            ( #obfio_sym >= 20 and ( #eval + #func + #fromchar ) >= 1 )
        )
        and filesize < 5MB
}

probably dogshit

it IS apparently version 1.3 though

[faint sandal]

https://tenor.com/lvFkfDrXAbG.gif

[fast pagoda]

i wonder if it actually iterated like 3 times

or if it just decided to call it version 1.3

[faint sandal]

LLMs write the most complicated yara rules that would match like, 1 sample

[fast pagoda]

but god dammit would it detect that one(1) sample

sample is hello world

it also did complain that i didnt provide any examples whatsoever lol

which is fair

are your average yara rules that ginormous

[faint sandal]

no

[fast pagoda]

lmao

[faint sandal]

#programming message

a good rule doesn't need more than a handful of string matches

[fast pagoda]

every example i could find was smol

makes sense no reason to be overly specific cuz then just slightly change and evade entirely becomes the thing

[faint sandal]

my best long-lasting yara rules that's managed to still match the same threat actor's samples for 4+ years are the ones with like, 3~5 strings

[fast pagoda]

i gave him this https://gist.github.com/Neo23x0/e3d4e316d7441d9143c7 and said try again

[faint sandal]

florian roth's guide is ok

[fast pagoda]

his profile says #Sigma so he's clearly an expert

[faint sandal]

i don't like him personally but he writes decent rules

[fast pagoda]

so for these what you get a sample of some obfuscated malware of whatever type
and basically just try to write the most sparse possible regex-ish pattern to recognize that same malware or related even if it gets changed fairly significantly

is that about right

[faint sandal]

the most ironic thing is google is the one that came up with the yara engine

regex is frowned upon for performance reasons

[fast pagoda]

yeah i just didnt know how to phrase it

lol

[faint sandal]

ideally your string matches should be universal enough that don't require the use of regex/nocase

[hoary lion]

Why there is literally ? phoneme there

what does it even do

[faint sandal]

wildcard matches?

[fast pagoda]

? is is .

arent they like the same

[faint sandal]

yes and no

? is used exclusively for binary matching

[fast pagoda]

0 or 1 yeah

[faint sandal]

typically used for assembly/bytecode matching, where the operands after an instruction may differ between compilations/optimizations

https://yara.readthedocs.io/en/latest/writingrules.html#hexadecimal-strings

[fast pagoda]

alright here's the florian roth enhanced gptee js rule

/*
  js_obfuscated_fast.yar
  A performance‑minded heuristic for obfuscated JavaScript.

  Design choices:
  - Only fixed strings with good atoms (no regex, no entropy).
  - No nocase (JS is case‑sensitive, atoms stay small & selective).
  - Cheap guard first: filesize.
  - Strong "tell" signatures (packer header, eval(atob(), eval(unescape())).
*/

rule JS_Obfuscated_FAST : javascript obfuscation fast
{
    meta:
        description = "Fast heuristic for obfuscated JavaScript (packer + eval/decoder combos)"
        author = "ChatGPT"
        date = "2025-08-08"
        version = "1.0"
        perf_notes = "No regex, no entropy; strong atoms only."

    strings:
        // Strong, unique packer signatures
        $s_dean_hdr  = "eval(function(p,a,c,k,e,d)"      // Dean Edwards style
        $s_evfunc    = "eval(function("

        // Decoder + executor tokens (all fixed, good atoms)
        $d_atob      = "eval(atob("                      // base64 -> eval
        $d_unescape  = "eval(unescape("                  // percent-encoded -> eval
        $t_sfc       = "String.fromCharCode("            // numeric array -> string
        $t_func      = "Function("                       // Function constructor
        $w_write     = "document.write("                 // indicative in droppers

    condition:
        // Cheap guard first (short-circuits on large bundles; tune as needed)
        filesize < 5MB
        and
        (
            // Any strong signature is enough
            any of ($s_*)
            or
            // Otherwise require a decode + execute pattern (2 distinct tokens)
            (
                ( $d_atob or $d_unescape )
                and ( $t_sfc or $t_func or $w_write )
            )
        )
}

dogshit2.yara

well

.yar

still seems very verbose compared to examples

llms are gonna replace me just because they somehow spew even more useless fluff than i do

it surprises me that they arent very good with this when i tend to see that they're pretty gud at deobfuscation itself

[faint sandal]

in the time it takes for me to wrangle against the LLM for a good yara rule output I could already write one better myself

[hoary lion]

literally a string of deutsch phonemized with espeak had ?
I don't think this is a wildcard of anything, this should be a phoneme

[fast pagoda]

these 2 poop rules took like 10 minutes of so at least it accelerated the heat death of the universe pretty good

[faint sandal]

are we on the same page

[midnight sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/books-reading-pages-gif-8637681

[hoary lion]

i think we can consider ourselves living in a different parallel universes

[faint sandal]

[nocturne olive]

How to remotely send audio from a Linux machine to a Windows machine:
Windows: bat ncat -l 12345 -k --sh-exec "ffplay -fflags nobuffer -flags low_delay -sync ext -f ogg -" -v Linux: ```bash
while true; do
ffmpeg -f pulse -i default -ac 2 -ar 48000 -c:a libopus -b:a 128k -f ogg tcp://localhost:12345;
echo "Disconnected. Reconnecting in 2 seconds...";
sleep 2;
done

-# This took way too long to figure out but finally my SSH tunneled VNC setup is complete

[fast pagoda]

ayyy you did it

any sync issues

also jesus updated bitwarden and this thing has a lotta tests goin on

[nocturne olive]

Just a couple seconds of latency and the random glitches when it synchronizes

[fast pagoda]

normal streaming desktop audio experience tbh

[nocturne olive]

Basically like how it was with RDP except RDP had more audio latency at times

[uneven pulsar]

i cant install xcode

cuz iam using mac os 11