programming

[opaque sigil]

i can't count

[hoary lion]

lmfao

[nocturne olive]

9GB from what I can tell

[hoary lion]

i though it was 90gb at first but 9gb or 90gb both are problematic

[nocturne olive]

What kind of audio model and on how much data, using what software?

[twilit finch]

im using process explorer

[nocturne olive]

And what params?

[twilit finch]

yippe

[nocturne olive]

Can it tell you GPU VRAM usage, CUDA usage and total CPU usage?

If not, it's useless here

[twilit finch]

while running the ai?

[nocturne olive]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

if you're on a relatively recent windows build you can do an in-place reinstall, sounds like you need it

[nocturne olive]

Especially we should be looking at the GPU VRAM usage

[nocturne olive]

Yeah, or just nuke it and go Linux like me when my Windows broke

[twilit finch]

when i said hi my gpu went to 13% and vram was at 4

[hoary lion]

speech tokenizer, emilia dataset(streaming) on batch size 32, Flax NNX. Following DAC recipe
This should have less than 100M params total including discriminators

[charred fable]

Oh also to answer this yes. I only have 16GB and this on AMD. And apparently my card isn't compatible with flash yet so i can't even use that.

[faint sandal]

is your taskmgr overridden in the image file execution option

[hoary lion]

there are like much more issues

[nocturne olive]

So you're most likely not using the VRAM

[sage crag]

awa

[twilit finch]

wait a second

i dont know if i have pytorch cuda installed

[nocturne olive]

Speech tokenizer, huh
Interesting
Try different optimizers maybe, that does make a different in VRAM use

[faint sandal]

what's the output of gi 'Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\taskmgr.exe' in powershell

[nocturne olive]

Recommendation: figure out how to allocate stuff to your GPU using your LLM library of choice, then test how that effects VRAM usage

[twilit finch]

PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> gi 'Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\taskmgr.exe'
gi : Cannot find path 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution
Options\taskmgr.exe' because it does not exist.
At line:1 char:1

• gi 'Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\Curren ...

•   + CategoryInfo          : ObjectNotFound: (HKEY_LOCAL_MACH...ons\taskmgr.exe:String) [Get-Item], ItemNotFoundExcep
   tion
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : PathNotFound,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.GetItemCommand

[nocturne olive]

Note that you need to close any graphically intensive apps to get an accurate result

[twilit finch]

i only have youtube and discord open

[nocturne olive]

YouTube does use some VRAM, so you may want to close that once you get the models on GPU

[twilit finch]

its audio only...

[faint sandal]

does taskmgr start at all when you observe the process list in procexp

[nocturne olive]

Otherwise you will run out of VRAM and your performance will die

[nocturne olive]

The browser itself uses VRAM

And YouTube code is garbage pasta code

[twilit finch]

nothing the name taskmgr isn't found in procexp

[faint sandal]

is a crash dump generated at all

check under %localappdata%\CrashDumps

[hoary lion]

reduced my batch size but still

[twilit finch]

msiexec.exe

but thats for running .msi files

and then some python from eariler on today

[faint sandal]

you're gonna need to start the process with a debugger to tell why it's dying then

[twilit finch]

ok

[twilit finch]

no error just insta closed

[faint sandal]

how are you diagnosing it

what's the exit code

[twilit finch]

1

[faint sandal]

it shouldn't exit with 1

bp at ExitProcess

[twilit finch]

C:\Windows\System32>SFC /SCANNOW

Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

C:\Windows\System32>

[faint sandal]

[twilit finch]

https://www.youtube.com/@boop/live

[cobalt sigil]

https://youtu.be/15_-hgsX2V0

[small anvil]

Gotta love it when I am paying for something through PayPal and then right after my transaction succeeds, the website glitches and now I actually didn't get what I purchased, because PayPal couldn't reach back to the merchant

[twilit finch]

(venv) C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli>python rvc_cli.py infer --input_path audio.mp3 --pth_path neuro.pth --index_path neuro.index --output_path output.wav
Using HiFi-GAN vocoder
Converting audio 'audio.mp3'...
Conversion completed at 'output.wav' in 6.29 seconds.

[small anvil]

Also, what the actual fuck is this

Are we actually being serious

[twilit finch]

they give you the hard capchas now i once spent 15 minutes on one

[small anvil]

All because I switched browsers too 😭

[sage crag]

webdevs will use anything but anubis

[small anvil]

anubis on top

💪

[twilit finch]

Fixed
https://i.imgur.com/6jbGHGP.png

Why does that sound more like evil

[hoary lion]

HiFiGAN was quite good?

[desert plaza]

@small anvil how's nxlang doing?

[small anvil]

im reworking the bytecode spec to be more coherent

and then after that ill create the vm that actually runs it, then ill create the compiler

and then hopefully after that I can integrate JIT

or just an actual native compiler

[desert plaza]

that's certainly a work load

[olive sable]

I am awake

[desert plaza]

congrats

[olive sable]

Thanks

Instead of going to bed late and waking up late, im now going to bed early and waking up early

[nocturne olive]

Pitch too low, try upping by 12 semitones

[twilit finch]

ok

[tranquil chasm]

Agreed.

[twilit finch]

i did but it sounds like the same

[nocturne olive]

If it sounds the same you didn't increase the pitch

[twilit finch]

[Original AI Reply] Wait, what?! New test?! I swear, every time I think I'm free, you come back with another test! [Final Sent Reply] Wait, what?! New test?! I swear, every time I think I'm free, you come back with another test! [RVC] Running command: C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\venv\Scripts\python.exe C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\rvc_cli.py infer --input_path C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\tts_audio\1399575658941649037_reply.wav --pth_path C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\neuro.pth --index_path C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\neuro.index --output_path C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\tts_audio\1399575658941649037_converted.wav --pitch_shift_semitones 12

[nocturne olive]

I'm just guessing, but maybe either there's something wrong with the inference engine in use, or your argument should be in a different spot

Or you used a wrong argument, that is also an option

[twilit finch]

Are you able to download NeuroSynth yet or not?

[nocturne olive]

NeuroSynth is my thing, but isn't even applicable to your usecase

[twilit finch]

is anyone going to be able to download it>

[nocturne olive]

Once it reaches 1.0

Until then, only insiders

[olive sable]

im doing gpu stuff now

as expected i have a single physical device that supports vulkan, since i dont have an igpu

[twilit finch]

My internet just went out :(

[fringe verge]

welp, AI reproduction lol. Or should AI spreading "weights" should be reproduction?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b4S-duf0sw

[hoary lion]

did someone say massive?

[olive sable]

no

not really

[hoary lion]

you know what else is massive?

[olive sable]

the eiffel tower

[hoary lion]

but what else?

[olive sable]

my debt

[hoary lion]

okay shit got too real

[olive sable]

[hoary lion]

💔

i wish you a financial stability

[olive sable]

i am financially stable

for now

[fringe verge]

kurzgesagt said that'd a evil AI would spread itself via sharing its weights, so, would a LLM or whatever would replace LLMs, is basically its weights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiPhOk1t3GU
wait, it wasn't them, but is very similar.

[hoary lion]

what

don't think it is anything more than a probability based math calculation

it doesn't even have randomness inside it

[fringe verge]

let me see if i can find the timestamp.

[fringe verge]

https://youtu.be/uiPhOk1t3GU?t=518

[hoary lion]

if you have a debt it might not go well soon™

[olive sable]

nah im fine

i have enough passive income to pay off the debt

[hoary lion]

we are one step away from a bingo being filled

researchers already gave the model tools so it could do that

and persona to keep itself

so it is nothing special tbh

[fringe verge]

Because i think someone at some point told me that a LLM or whatever one of its variations, spreading itself like a virus, as fiction portrays, would be complex. As in, making perfect replicas of itself through the internet.

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/makoto-yuki-persona3-persona-gif-11040887881072923054

did someone say persona?

[hoary lion]

okay im sorry sam from pulling up brainrot memes

😭

oops, ran linter too early

my git commit is fucked but who cares

man

[twilit finch]

I have no internet so I have to use my phone internet 😭

[sage crag]

awa virus

[olive sable]

awa

ok i have made the vulkan physical device and logical device code

now all i need to do is make the window surface, the swap chain, the image views, the shader modules, the render passes, the framebuffers, the command buffers, the frames in flight, the vertex buffers, the index buffers, the uniform handling, thew texture mapping, the depth buffer, and the multisampling

[tender river]

it looks like it would be best suited for a hoodie as it requires 2 layers

[desert plaza]

gnome terminal just crashed again

trying to debug my segfault generator, but gnome gets in the way

[sage crag]

segfault generator

generates segfaults

[desert plaza]

not on purpose tho

handwriting machine code really is something else

day 2 of writing a program that prints file size

[midnight sigil]

wow thanks YouTube for introducing the GeForce GTX 680 13 years later!

[noble zodiac]

awa

[tender river]

awa

[sage crag]

awa

im sitting in the rain

ame

[hoary lion]

rain mentioned??

I, as a humble inabakumori enjoyer, cannot let the word 'ame' slide

https://tenor.com/view/teto-mesmerizer-gif-1651698684609187246

[tender river]

lost umbrella

7_7 bootleg

340bpm

[hoary lion]

osu player

osu should have more inaba songs

then i would play it again

[tender river]

it has a lot actually

though i guess its mostly the same songs mapped all over again

[hoary lion]

let me open my osu lazer in the middle of night

[tender river]

there are 14 different songs according to my possibly incorrect calculations

and not counting non-std gamemodes

[hoary lion]

19 including remixes and colabs(except that one massive collab where inaba appears for like 10 seconds)

16 w/out colab

fair

but i suck at this game tbh

[sage crag]

[hoary lion]

where do you even find that emoji

[sage crag]

neurooper

[tender river]

[hoary lion]

no idea what this emoji is supposed to mean

[tender river]

staz

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/inabakumori-osage-osager-whatever-go-my-fish-whatever-go-my-scarab-gif-16035821169335511040

[hoary lion]

neuro >> vedal ahh statement

[desert plaza]

shit, gdb really loves crashing my terminal

[stark needle]

reinforcement learning

[noble zodiac]

well did you touch some grass or not?

[stark needle]

no

I'm in hospital stay ✅

[scarlet arch]

I just did rolling window event cluster analysis to find times of interest.. and now I gotta dig through 1.2GB of log files. someone help me holy fuck

am a programmer, not a data scientist

[tender river]

i've had to deal with similar issues when developing networking software...

[midnight sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rpN6cZeGS4

[rustic maple]

Why? QwQ
Node haunts ne in my dreams... please don't make its use cases even bigger

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[midnight sigil]

addons

You have unlocked new role

[rustic maple]

Yeay I guess? XD

[midnight sigil]

All I'm seeing is just Node-API Node-API Node-API Node-API

[opaque sigil]

There's a reason it's usually just called napi

[midnight sigil]

how do I pronounce NAPI

[opaque sigil]

nappy

[uneven pulsar]

:3

[opaque sigil]

[midnight sigil]

[midnight sigil]

mhm

very good cable management

[uneven pulsar]

fr fr

[rigid snow]

yummy

pasta

[noble zodiac]

bakushin

[scarlet arch]

This is the shit I'm dealing with lol.
I don't have any logs as they were rotated away, but I do see these events here (dropped files that are not supposed to be dropped). Turns out that version before 3.6.3 had a bug with this exact thing...
But at least the mystery is solved

Only took me writing a god damn 400 lines shell script, various database extractions and a lot of dying brain cells :D

[scarlet arch]

digging in log histories to see what your software did at a customers installation? cause it sucks ass

and the DB we got was corrupted lol

[stray dragon]

saw this image and started panicking

terrifying

[stark needle]

the cables under my desk

[midnight sigil]

let's see how well is your server

[lament igloo]

heya #programming
i was wondering... is plain js better than js libraries in terms of websites/frontend ?

[midnight sigil]

uhh depends

[lament igloo]

if so, why? 🤔 i just wanna ask cus im considering going thru them later

[midnight sigil]

do you want maintainability, or convieniency

plain js sounds like gigachad

[lament igloo]

hmmmm something that doesnt take a toll on time like npm run dev just to test a page
(experienced with next.js app for vercel)

[olive sable]

i am here

[glass flower]

i mean.. once npm run dev starts you can hotload the website no?

[olive sable]

[lament igloo]

like how live server works on vscode?

[midnight sigil]

stream your vulkan dev journey in voice chat

[olive sable]

no

[midnight sigil]

aww

[glass flower]

basically yea. i think most stacks support some kind of hotloading nowadays

but it also really depends on what you are building

[olive sable]

90% of vulkan deving is copy pasting code form the tutorial and reading wha it does and how it works

[glass flower]

if you want to build a basic blog with static elements.. don't even bother doing any JS. just use jenkins or something (idk what the current tools are)

[lament igloo]

🤔 i see...
i find plain js to lack features i sometimes need

[jagged turtle]

<--- astro glazer || or use astro

[rough bloom]

no, plain JS is ass because you have to directly mutate the DOM

[lament igloo]

i just wanna know if they are any faster tho

[glass flower]

right.. astro

[jagged turtle]

I mean for a basic blog, it works

[glass flower]

js runs js. unless you compile your website to wasm and just do that. it will run the same

just make your website in unity

[rough bloom]

write it in Windows Forms and spin up a VM for every user

[jagged turtle]

also, what's a .ex

[rough bloom]

Elixir source code file extension

[jagged turtle]

ah

[midnight sigil]

[jagged turtle]

???

[olive sable]

like my screens literaly look like this

[uneven pulsar]

I'm proud I could give you a mini heart attack

[jagged turtle]

if I had multiple monitors for myself, would have it set like this as well

[rough bloom]

for now
but yeah there's a lot of boilerplate that will likely never change because you're just not using those Vulkan features

[midnight sigil]

woah triple monitors?!!!

rich

[olive sable]

they were quite cheap

these are lg 27gp850's

[midnight sigil]

wait

why are you putting everything inside one single file

smh not OOP

[olive sable]

i got 1 "brand new" cuz it got returned tot he store for 270.
and 2 came 2ndhand for 300 combined

[olive sable]

thats normal

[midnight sigil]

is that usd

[olive sable]

euro

so slightly more

[midnight sigil]

that's almost 3000 for me

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

[olive sable]

???

[midnight sigil]

[midnight sigil]

hkd

1 euro = 9.07 hkd

[olive sable]

yes it is, you're not gonna put the code for picking the physical device in a different file from picking the logical device

this is only 338 lines so far

[midnight sigil]

I'll do PhysicalDevice and LogicalDevice, extending from the Device class

[olive sable]

hong kong?

[midnight sigil]

yep

[olive sable]

huh

[olive sable]

you're gonna do what?

[rough bloom]

surely those aren't completely different, incompatible concepts that just happen to both have "device" in the name

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

338 still sounds fine
I'd maybe separate it if it grows too much though

[olive sable]

i think id eventuially end up with maybe 4 files. but im not gonna split it yet cuz i dont know the api well enough

ill follow the tutorial first

[midnight sigil]

oh

now I see

I know nothing about vulkan don't scold me

[olive sable]

you do need the physical device defined before making the logical device

[maiden geyser]

three similar monitors strat

[olive sable]

its 3x the exact same monitor

besides 1 of them being newer so slightly diffrent colours

[maiden geyser]

but why? it sounds like a waste of space

[olive sable]

wdym why?

im using all 3

[lament igloo]

how is that different from js libraries like react or next.js

[faint sandal]

you know what they say

used space is wasted space

[olive sable]

i thought it was the opposite

[faint sandal]

that's the joke

[noble zodiac]

I'm still sticking to my single screen

[olive sable]

do what you want

[faint sandal]

so 4 is kinda the max I can have, physically as well

[midnight sigil]

rich

[faint sandal]

not really the vertical one has been with me since high school

[olive sable]

my max if do cross gpu stuff is probably 9, but id have to use tv's to fill that cap

[uneven pulsar]

No more windows just get Linux

[olive sable]

tbh i havent had much issues before with running 1 display of the igpu on my old pc

so it should just work fine i think

[tender river]

azaka works with windows professionally

[uneven pulsar]

Oooo

[faint sandal]

dwm eats up a huge chunk when you're trying to render something on gpu 1 and displaying it on GPU 2

[noble zodiac]

I've been working with a 12" thinkpad for so long I'm just used to not having huge screens

[olive sable]

i do enjoy having multiple monitors

my laptop is already screen heavy, it would just tople over

[faint sandal]

I'll be honest 200 dollars doesn't sound ridiculous

[noble zodiac]

and 30 days warrenty

[olive sable]

im not expecting the screens to be great at that price tho

[old totem]

chat im sorry if this is a hard ask i just need help ig

so excel has code right?

VB something

[faint sandal]

when you're traveling and having to work I think screen's quality would be least of the concern

[old totem]

i wanna be able to copy paste this inside a text box in excel

[olive sable]

i guess

[old totem]

excel formats it for me

and then puts it all inside cells

in order

my question is can i use javascript for that

[olive sable]

sorry i dont use excel

[old totem]

alr im sorry

[faint sandal]

afaik macros are forcefully disabled now except signed macros

[old totem]

coding was never the problem..

always the platform..

[faint sandal]

nvm only those with mark of the web

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365-apps/security/internet-macros-blocked?hl=en-US

[hard raptor]

This might take a little bit

[olive sable]

opus

ah yes

[midnight sigil]

opus

[hard raptor]

it's a 30 minute recording of a lil dj set i did lol

It's technically still converting

[tender river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE0rfFfd8fY

[nocturne olive]

If I got Linux to be able to use both my iGPU and dGPUs at the same time I could use up to 9 monitors, my motherboard only appears to have 1 display connector, both dGPUs have 4 each
But not like I could afford any more monitors or even fit any more than the 2 I have

[olive sable]

i would have to put my old cpuin since my 5950x doesnt have an igpu, then id also need to put my old gpu in for those extra 4 ports

for displays i have 7 pc monitors in my house, and the rest would have to be tv's

we have a lot of tv's here so should be fine

i just cant be bothered to do all that

[nocturne olive]

Well, I don't even have enough monitors

[olive sable]

new acerola video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNzH495CQI

[rough bloom]

a large part of the job of something like React is to keep the DOM synchronized with your application state
It also does so in a way that makes XSS vulnerabilities really hard to introduce
Plain JS fails hard at both of this

[faint sandal]

wtf

oh it was using my 3080 for some reason

[twilit finch]

oh

[olive sable]

vulkan?

[faint sandal]

wait i can't switch it over to the AMD card lmao

[olive sable]

it must have either picked the first one that fits the game's needs, or it gave the 3080 a higher score for some reason

[nocturne olive]

The game must really like Nvidia

[faint sandal]

i've never had a game prioritize my 3080 over the 7090xtx before

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Must be a badly made game

[olive sable]

it all depends on how they do their vulkan choose physical device code

i work with a score

[nocturne olive]

You should try to make it default to the device running the main display

And if that is an integrated GPU, check for dedicated GPUs and run on that if found

[olive sable]

so what you're saying is just run on dedicated if there is one

which is what im doing already

[nocturne olive]

Do be aware of systems with multiple dedicated GPUs like mine
What would your code do in that case?

[faint sandal]

fixed

[olive sable]

it would pick the one with the highest score

[nocturne olive]

And how would it compute that? Because I don't want games running on my 3090 which would mean the game has to stream its images trough a chipset PCIe x4 slot

[faint sandal]

[olive sable]

you can basicly choose how it calculates that, but rn its just 0 points for whatever doesnt have the needed capabilities, and for those that do its just the max image dimensions + (1000 if its a dedicated gpu)

you could always just let the user decide

[nocturne olive]

You should add a significant amount to the score if the device is connected to a display

[olive sable]

thats not really exposed directly in the api i think

[rough bloom]

Valve mostly fixed this in Steam by having fancy shader cache tech

[nocturne olive]

Well, it would be good to at least try to make it so a device that isn't meant to be used for games isn't used for games
Can you somehow compile a small Linux executable I could use to check which GPU it would decide on on my system?

And print out the numbers it uses to decide that?

[olive sable]

uhhhh

i would not know how to do that

[rough bloom]

dunno why it doesn't work in this case, Vulkan games should be well supported by that
skipped the shader cache preparation maybe

[rough bloom]

use vulkaninfo

and just read the properties from that

[nocturne olive]

You're writing C++, right? Just make a small program with the score calculations that outputs to the terminal, and compile that

[olive sable]

it would compile to just an exe tho

[nocturne olive]

Then change the compile target

[rough bloom]

-# this tool already exists

[nocturne olive]

The output is like a billion things, how am I meant to find what I'm looking for?

[rough bloom]

use eyes

read letters

[olive sable]

but like, how?

[nocturne olive]

It depends on the IDE and build tool

[rough bloom]

maybe don't listen to him on this, C++ cross compilation is a massive pain

it would be easier to send the source code

[twilit finch]

why doesn't this work? C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\venv\Scripts\python.exe C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\rvc_cli.py infer --input_path C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\tts_audio\1399575658941649037_reply.wav --pth_path C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\neuro.pth --index_path C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\neuro.index --output_path C:\AI\NeuroSama\rvc-cli\tts_audio\1399575658941649037_converted.wav --pitch_shift_semitones 12 it still sounds like evil

[nocturne olive]

Whuh

[nocturne olive]

Did the pitch change at all?

[opaque sigil]

sth sth zig fixes this

[twilit finch]

Doesn't sound any higher

[nocturne olive]

Then your pitch shift is not correctly being applied to the RVC inference or your inference engine sucks

[twilit finch]

https://github.com/blaisewf/rvc-cli

[rough bloom]

it actually does

a lot of languages do fix that
except C++ because it's old and bad

[nocturne olive]

How strange

[opaque sigil]

No I meant zig fixes this for c++ since you can use it as a compiler with musl

[nocturne olive]

How will Sam build multiplatform builds then, last I checked Vulkan doesn't run in a browser

[opaque sigil]

Wasm

Or I guess webgpu or browser will just not be supported

[rough bloom]

it has a full C++ parser? or does it rely on LLVM?

[opaque sigil]

Yeah it just passes things to clang for the most part

[olive sable]

have fun ig

[opaque sigil]

There's some differences with the argument parsing iirc and well, musl obviously

But most things should just be passed as is

[noble zodiac]

whateven is the support for webgpu nowadays. Last time I checked it sat at 70%

[nocturne olive]

I don't think I can compile this as-is
Just give me a Windows exe I guess and I'll see if WINE works with Vulkan stuff

[opaque sigil]

I think chromium supports it but it's nightly only on Firefox or sth

Well the main parts

[rough bloom]

Firefox is working on stabilizing it on both Windows and Linux over the coming weeks and months

[olive sable]

le epic totaly safe exe

[nocturne olive]

SMOL

[olive sable]

thats a good thing

ill take it as a compliment

[rough bloom]

they're posting weird executables in chat again

[nocturne olive]

I don't think it'll run on WINE

[noble zodiac]

time to play dynamic linkage bingo

[olive sable]

output shoudl looks omewhat liek this

[olive sable]

welp, that would do it ig

lemme turn off debug

[rough bloom]

Windows moment

imagine debug mode requiring a separate DLL

[olive sable]

thats standart vulkan

its a validation layer

[rough bloom]

oh yeah, that's not even the Windows thing

Discord mobile didn't load the image so I assumed

[olive sable]

le epic virus now containing -DNDEBUG

should now not ask for validation layers

[rough bloom]

3 kilobytes smaller

[olive sable]

[noble zodiac]

huge gains

[nocturne olive]

Now it opens a window called "Vulkan" on WINE

Appears to get the right GPU

[olive sable]

thats what it does yes

[nocturne olive]

It did correctly find the 4070Ti, so fine for now

[olive sable]

the thing its supposed to do for seeign which gpu got sleected is just a print

i havent finished doing the triangle yet

[nocturne olive]

Since you're doing native Vulkan now you may want to figure out how to get Linux builds at some point, either via figuring out how I can compile it for Linux targets or figuring out cross-compilation yourself

[rough bloom]

btw, if you want to do GPU selection in a smarter way later you can check https://vulkan.gpuinfo.org/
they list all the properties and stuff for the various devices

so you can check which it would pick without needing the hardware

[olive sable]

uhhh

i was thinking of just saying "use the web build" for now

[nocturne olive]

There isn't exactly Vulkan on web

[olive sable]

or someone on linux compiles one on their pc

[rough bloom]

also this thing probably
https://www.lunarg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Enhanced-Devsim-15Sept2021.pdf

[opaque sigil]

i tried compiling sam's file for windows on arch out of curiosity and zig was NOT happy

[nocturne olive]

Well, as you may or may not know, I have a device running Linux called "my PC"

[olive sable]

ye but do you have the vulkan sdk?

[nocturne olive]

Linux SDK?

[olive sable]

and c++ stuff too ig

[olive sable]

i meant vulkan

[nocturne olive]

I doubt it'd be hard to just apt install it

[olive sable]

my brain likes crossing wires

[nocturne olive]

So what dependencies and build system are needed?

[olive sable]

i just use makefiles, and you basicly jsut need the vulkan sdk since there you get the option to install sdl2 and glm with it

[tender river]

gnu make, gcc or clang, vulkan, thats probably it

you can just compile it and see if it complains

and download the missing packages

[olive sable]

i use clang but it will probably work with most c++ compilers

[noble zodiac]

why not just let a CI do that for you instead of doing manual builds for every target

[opaque sigil]

because now you have to involve ci

[noble zodiac]

sure but what are the odds of your version control not to have some kind of access to it

[olive sable]

what did it complain about? everythin im doing rn should be cross platform compatible.
all i cant hink of is you not having the vulkan sdk so you dont have the validation layer file.

[opaque sigil]

windows stuff

[olive sable]

you can just disable that

[opaque sigil]

cross compiling to windows isn't as convenient sadly since you can't rely on musl

[olive sable]

i dont even know what that is

but there should be no platform specific stuff hapening

[opaque sigil]

Me being on Linux and trying to produce a windows executable

[olive sable]

glfw handles that under the hood suposedly

[olive sable]

oh

a windows exe?

but why?

[opaque sigil]

I'm on a train and bored

That's why

[olive sable]

did the linux one not work?

[opaque sigil]

Oh it did

[olive sable]

huh

[nocturne olive]

Vulkan SDK has been obtained, GCC was already installed with something else

[opaque sigil]

i wanted to output a Linux binary on windows but accidentally booted into arch so I tried the other way

[nocturne olive]

Now where can I find something I can try to build?

[opaque sigil]

You need glfw3 too btw

[olive sable]

this list is cool but idk if its realistic to check all of these

im pretty sure vulkan just has a performance check function

[nocturne olive]

GLFW installed

APT is so good

It just has all this stuff conveniently available

[opaque sigil]

Yeah just 3 year old versions of it

[rough bloom]

you could probably automate it, but you wouldn't even need to
the point is just that it allows you to see the properties (and maybe more importantly, extensions) without actually owning the device

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

So what now with all that stuff obtained?

[opaque sigil]

honestly just prefer the first GPU and let people that have multiple set their preferred one via env variables

[olive sable]

this website is kidna the same as this program that came with the vulkan sdk

the website is more liek a database tho

[tender river]

? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/2271593

[nocturne olive]

The package manager

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

Btw if you're using vanilla apt there's also nala as a nicer frontend for apt with parallel downloads

[noble zodiac]

apt is cool until ubuntu decides to give a shit on what you want and use snap in the background instead

[nocturne olive]

Well, I'm on Mint

[opaque sigil]

Do they still do this?

[rough bloom]

they do

[opaque sigil]

Cool

[rough bloom]

Package chromium-browser
    plucky (25.04) (web): Transitional package - chromium-browser -> chromium snap [universe]
    2:1snap1-0ubuntu3: amd64 arm64 armhf

[trim valve]

snaps

[noble zodiac]

canonical and redhat both belong in the bin

[rough bloom]

I get canonical but why redhat

[trim valve]

hm

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

is it a good idea to change a manual process I run after every karaoke (never late surely) into a github action so I don't forget to do it

(this will involve mostly rewriting said process so it can work on an action without imploding)

[noble zodiac]

because the stunt they pulled with centos. They cut changed the end of life from 2029 to 2021 out of nowhere and then just discontinued it altogether in favor of stream

after it was already released mind you

[nocturne olive]

What does it even do?

[trim valve]

like shazam but for neuro stream intros

I need to keep a db of what songs play, and build a file from that

atm I'm manually generating that file

[nocturne olive]

How silly

[rough bloom]

oh yeah, that whole thing
I kinda forgot since Rocky Linux and Alma Linux have replaced those builds
get rid of them both

[noble zodiac]

We moved to alma at work as well

[trim valve]

yeah sure I'll write an action for it, what's the worst that could happen

[noble zodiac]

too bad that there arent too many stable and well run linux distros out there I would use for production

[nocturne olive]

@olive sable Well, if you want to figure out if I can compile Linux builds, let me know or something like that

[olive sable]

sure

[rough bloom]

did you actually try to compile it yet

[nocturne olive]

I don't have all the files yet

I think I lack a build script and didn't download the code yet

[rough bloom]

isn't it just the main.cpp? it has, like, no dependencies

won't even need a Makefile at that point

[nocturne olive]

Well, I guess I'll check if I can just build it as-is

[olive sable]

my makefile would probably be harder to run than just clang++ main.cpp -o a or whatever you do on linux

[nocturne olive]

Is this meant to happen?

[olive sable]

uh lemme check

[opaque sigil]

Good old implicit declarations

[olive sable]

just do include cstring i guess?

i wasnt including it apprently and it worked fine

it even says that it came form there

[opaque sigil]

You must be including it somewhere

[rough bloom]

yeah, probably because some other header you include can then include the cstring header
so it will also end up included in your source code

[nocturne olive]

What even happened here

[olive sable]

looks like it couldnt find the vulkan stuff i guess?

[rough bloom]

that or some C++ version or compiler specific issue where certain headers are always included? I think I remember that being a thing

[opaque sigil]

-lglfw

[olive sable]

ah

that would make sense

[opaque sigil]

They do that with libc but I don't think it should happen with c++

c++ mode is a lot stricter

[nocturne olive]

I added that but nothing happened

[opaque sigil]

Gimme a bit I just got home

Or look at Sam's repo for the cpp game engine for some flags

There's some stuff missing that should be linked with

[olive sable]

this isnt in that repo, its a seperate vulkan project file

[nocturne olive]

Well, what compile flags are you using on that one?

[olive sable]

the amkefile looks liek this if that helps?

some of those arent necesary

wait

i basicly just copied my makefile from the other project for this

some of those ldflags are platform specific i think and probably not necessary

[opaque sigil]

Waitw

What compiler are you using

g++?

[olive sable]

hes using gcc iirc

[opaque sigil]

Yeah don't do gcc do g++

[olive sable]

-lvulkan-1
-lglfw3

might work

idk

[opaque sigil]

Yeah you at the very least need that

There's also uhhh

Some missing references to some triangle hello world?

[olive sable]

thats just the class

class HelloTriangleApplication

[opaque sigil]

Oh yeah I can't read

[rough bloom]

looks like -lvulkan -lglfw is enough on my end right now

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

doesn't display shit but it runs

[opaque sigil]

Don't use gcc use g++

[olive sable]

3/4ths of what vulkan needs to dispaly stuff is missing

[nocturne olive]

Oh, GCC doesn't work for this?

[rough bloom]

shouldn't it at least open a window

[opaque sigil]

gcc is the c compiler, you want the c++ compiler

[nocturne olive]

Oh cool, it works now

[olive sable]

ye it should

glfw supposed to make one

[rough bloom]

I'm sure it's encrypting my files as we speak

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Interesting silliness

[olive sable]

the loop is probably saturating your cpu cuz it has no regulation at all

like its probably runnign at multiple thousands of times per second

[rough bloom]

no window so no vsync

[olive sable]

imagine using vsync

[rough bloom]

oh, it's for the events

[nocturne olive]

About what I found out from looking at the code, it fully saturates an entire thread

[olive sable]

it sure does

normally you'd have code to stop that, but this wasnt exactly meant to be a finished product

[nocturne olive]

Well, at least compiling it is easy enough

Just had to use the right compiler

[olive sable]

i have:

the physical and logical device selector, the window surface

i still need to make:

the swap chain, the image views, the shader modules, the render passes, the framebuffers, the command buffers, the frames in flight, the vertex buffers, the index buffers, the uniform handling, the texture mapping, the depth buffer, and the multisampling

[rough bloom]

oh, it doesn't even set up the swap chain yet
makes sense why I don't get a window then

[olive sable]

?

it makes a window for me

maybe glfw works diffrent on linux

[nocturne olive]

It does for me as well

[olive sable]

ah

[rough bloom]

probably a compositor thing

[nocturne olive]

Probably something specific to what Shuni is using, yeah

[rough bloom]

I assume Hyprland doesn't actually display a surface until it presented a frame
-# probably wlroots in general?

[olive sable]

very possebli

thats a good optemization

[nocturne olive]

Now that that's figured out, you can have native Linux builds I guess

[opaque sigil]

idk why but i kind of expected it to blow up

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

I have awoken

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

oh yeah now that i'm home i can try cross compiling for linux

wait no

it still depends on vulkan and glfw

[opaque wharf]

And Sam said he didn't want to run benchmark on first run

[olive sable]

there is nothing to benchmark yet

ofcourse it will run at 10000fps rn, we're barely touching the gpu

fps, more like events per second

since thats all it does rn

[sage crag]

a wa

[olive sable]

aw a

goodafternoon konii

[sage crag]

perhaps

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

i think ninja is not too happy

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Don't worry, I am not happy either

[sage crag]

0xC000005

i missed a zero

[opaque sigil]

segfault btw

[opaque wharf]

Because now I actually need to git clone Sam repo to properly edit all the bracket

[sage crag]

clang format

github action

[opaque wharf]

Good idea

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

Wait no wtf

Can gh actions change the file comitted already to the repo?

[olive sable]

i will still repond to pr's with a no effort "no"

[opaque wharf]

Wdym no effort? I have to learn regex all over again everytime

[olive sable]

i dont

[opaque wharf]

Yes, because that is what contributions are. I am providing you with something so you don't need to do it yourself

[rough bloom]

I think they can just push new commits, but that might also include force pushing
worst case you can give it an SSH key that can force push

[olive sable]

and i will put no effort into reading what you send and jsut do "no"

[iron dirge]

I've pinned down the trigger conditions for a small bug I've been having on discord the last few days.

[opaque wharf]

Is it something cursed?

[iron dirge]

No just Phantom new post dots when a channel meets certain criteria.

If the last post is an addendum to a reply close enough after that it's merged and I close and reopen discord the channel will say there's a new post.

[amber fractal]

Hi chat, time to disconnect from this wifi and have no cell service

[olive sable]

goodbye iggly

may we meet again

[opaque wharf]

Are you going camping?

[iron dirge]

Just realized the last post in one of the affected channels isn't a reply just an addendum.

[opaque wharf]

Acerola just dropped another vid

https://youtu.be/5LNzH495CQI

[iron dirge]

So I guess it just needs to be a merged addendum

[opaque wharf]

1 hr long lmao

[noble zodiac]

not the absolute collapse of the Ga

[olive sable]

gallium

ive already watched that video, its pretty decent

[opaque wharf]

Have you seen his comment? The dude is needing help in Uma Musume lmao

[tender river]

elf sword

[hoary lion]

morn

[olive sable]

hi

[opaque wharf]

Elf word should be named wisdom

[sage crag]

s word

i was confused what the Elf32 Sword was for

[tender river]

for defeating demons

or dwarfs

[sage crag]

dwarf and elf are both binary thingies

tolkien

[olive sable]

huh

ironmouse collabed with bbno$

[tender river]

i read the entirely of hobbit, lotr and silmarillion on a 128x128 phone screen

[sage crag]

why

[opaque wharf]

Because chay love cursed stuff is my best theory

[sage crag]

i have these books in hardback, its important for life

[opaque wharf]

Well well well

[sage crag]

would you look at the time

[tender river]

bime

@open copper @rare bridge @dapper topaz

[olive sable]

its bot-o-clock

[opaque wharf]

@rare bridge

[olive sable]

sad

[sage crag]

get a bot with embed perms idiot

[tender river]

execution bime

[rare bridge]

hi scammer

[sage crag]

hi

wait

[tender river]

hi cloudburst

thanks for killing them

[sage crag]

also in #gaming and #artist-alley

[rare bridge]

dealt with

gonna be writing tooling for @stiff mica to automate murdering of them

[olive sable]

it seems to be always the same ad, so it has to be the same person running the bot?

[sage crag]

still promoting the instant ban of anyone who sends 4 images

[opaque wharf]

More like same company

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

is discord scamming that profitable that there are entire companies for it now?

[sage crag]

different stolen account each time

[sage crag]

nah its probably just a RAT

[opaque wharf]

Scamming people in general is profitable. 0 initial cost (or very little) with high gains

[sage crag]

cost is soul

[olive sable]

you'd think that most people are smart enought to realize its not an actual mrbeast challenge or whatever

[opaque wharf]

Most people are indeed

[tender river]

the key is doing it at scale

[opaque wharf]

The problem is that you don't have to get most people

[olive sable]

ah

[opaque wharf]

And also, the more outrageous the thing is, you are filtering those that are the most gullible only ironically

[rough bloom]

yeah, that's why it's spammed in every channel on large Discord servers
sooner or later someone will forget to engage their critical thinking and will be taken advantage of

[noble zodiac]

I feel so dirty creating a Option<Box<[Box<[T]>]>>

[olive sable]

sad

[sage crag]

you should

[olive sable]

cant they just freeload off the taxpayers like everyone else?

[sage crag]

its ok Box is a fat ptr so Option<Box<T>> is probably cost free

i hope

[olive sable]

[noble zodiac]

I think? it should be better than just having an empty boxed slice since that still triggers a heap allocation even for zero size

[sage crag]

yeah

im curious why the extra box though

[opaque wharf]

I have big brain moment. Linked list is just a tree with 1 branch

[sage crag]

linked list is a generator

it can have loops

[noble zodiac]

cuz they are nested lists. Sure I can use a flat slice but then I would have to track the start and end points for each

[sage crag]

last element points to first element, suddenly your program never terminates

@tender river cursed binary modification idea

function ptr inlining

[tender river]

i did think about something like that

[opaque wharf]

My hypothesis is once again proven correct

[tender river]

having a function that fetches a function pointer on initial run and then replaces its own code with a jump to that pointer

anything more than that would be a bit hard

[sage crag]

i was thinking creating a function that copies the whole binary into ram and grafts the function into the binary

[olive sable]

thats gotta be the best pirate biggest struct ive ever seen

[opaque wharf]

I'm hungry

[sage crag]

im konii

[opaque wharf]

Hi Konii

[olive sable]

im dying

[tender river]

it can be a regular linked list or it can be a list with cycles, like it can be a tree or a directed graph

[rough bloom]

isn't that basically just dispatching like you would do for different CPU featuresets

[tender river]

i'm hungry too but my potatoes just finished baking so i'll eat them in a bit

[sage crag]

for portable simd, sometimes. other times its just a branch on detected featureset bits.

[opaque wharf]

Don't have oven here. Sadge

[sage crag]

typically would depend on hot vs cold path

[tender river]

you can use a fire

but you'd need foil

or something similar

[olive sable]

grilled patatoes sounds nice

[opaque wharf]

Lemme just ignite some in the middle of living room

[olive sable]

fuck im hungry too now

i blame chay

[sage crag]

get a microwave and take out its transformer

[tender river]

[sage crag]

then use the transformer to power a lazer

[opaque wharf]

Baked potatoes with butter and herbs indeed sounds nice tho

[sage crag]

then cook your food with the lazer

[olive sable]

as a person who knows a bit of electronic i dont reccomend this.
as a person who is hungry i fully endorse this if its to make food

[sage crag]

never touch any kind of transformer unless you know what you are doing

capacitors

[olive sable]

yep

[rigid snow]

just popped in and thought you were talking about ml

[opaque wharf]

I know what I am doing and I don't even wanna deal with them lmao

[sage crag]

dead before you hit the floor

[sage crag]

true still

[opaque wharf]

ML brainrot

[olive sable]

ive only touched big transformers twice or so i think. only 1 was on purpose but the devices were all discharged

[tender river]

gpt

[olive sable]

not discharged as in a couple hours, more like 3 years

[sage crag]

advice is now shown to be solid for 3 distinct cases

[opaque wharf]

Transformer doesn't really store energy btw. It's the caps that you should be wary about even when it's off

[sage crag]

as a corollary it can be shown that i am not dangerous as i do not contain a transformer

[opaque wharf]

You have something worse. Electron gun

[tender river]

i had an rgb lamp with tasmota that i really liked but the capacitor died

i have the replacement but i'm too lazy to solder it

[sage crag]

please call it properly

cathode ray tube

[tender river]

also i don't know how i would reassemble the lamp

[opaque wharf]

Electron gun sounds way cooler tho

[sage crag]

it doesnt

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

Modern hardware issue. Everything is either glued or potted

[sage crag]

need to make a house out of aluminium

[rigid snow]

solution: build the lamp yourself

[sage crag]

all upholstery is aluminium

if breaks just weld

[hard raptor]

Like one of deez?

[tender river]

also lamps connect directly to 220v and i'm scared of something going wrong

[sage crag]

why it plugged in

[hard raptor]

Into what?

[sage crag]

something

floating cable

[rigid snow]

so it kills you obviously. anti theft mechanism

[sage crag]

kill you machine

[hard raptor]

These are them cables

[opaque wharf]

The LED itself is usually behind the (hopefully) isolated DC circuit. So you're likely safe

[hard raptor]

It no go anywhere

[sage crag]

the body can have a little bit of direct current, as a treat

[tender river]

i still have to deal with the power wiring

the lamp cant be properly disassembled without disconnecting the power

[hard raptor]

Worst thing is... this was an old Sony radio

Like why it have big microwave transformer

[opaque wharf]

I thought it read the lamp can rather than can't lmao

[rough bloom]

there really isn't much that can go wrong if you have some distance to the lamp when you turn it on
even if you're close the worst thing that could happen is a tiny explosion and a few sparks and some smoke or something
just really make sure everything is off while still working on it

[sage crag]

could be impedence

could be signal coupling

who knows maybe its part of the audio producing hardware

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, the problem is that means chay will have to power off the circuit to the lamp

Which may or may not be on the same breaker as other stuff

[hard raptor]

No.. you see that connector with the white and black cables?

That's mains power

[sage crag]

i suggest lamp should become decorative ornament

[rough bloom]

it is what it is
other stuff will have to turn off too for a moment until the lamp is disconnected

[tender river]

?

its a regular lamp that you can just screw in and out

light bulb

[opaque wharf]

Oh

[tender river]

having a lamp that you cant disconnect would be a problem to say the least

[rough bloom]

oh, it's a blub
then yeah I'd still switch it off first but the assembly is probably more of an issue

[opaque wharf]

Nah, it exists. I just assumed lol

[rough bloom]

who needs light switches when your lamp has WiFi

[tender river]

lamps are known to never break

[sage crag]

if you turn up the wifi power enough the lamp wont need a mains supply

[tender river]

PoW

power over wifi

[sage crag]

pow

hit sound effect

[opaque wharf]

Prisoner of War

[sage crag]

pal

[hard raptor]

Here the missing recrifying circuit tho

[sage crag]

homophone of pow

[opaque wharf]

This is why I never speak in english

[sage crag]

[rough bloom]

yeah, if it's not a bulb then you just have to replace the entire thing
it's not too bad though since it's just mounting the new lamp and connecting two wires
just requires turning off the breaker

[sage crag]

in fact if you turn up the power enough anything will become a lamp

[tender river]

have you seen this https://arxiv.org/pdf/2301.00250

[sage crag]

nyope

[tender river]

detecting humans and their poses using wifi

[sage crag]

induction lamp

[opaque wharf]

I only know about espargos

Human is new

[sage crag]

wifi

[opaque wharf]

It does exists

[sage crag]

2.4 Ghz lazer

wifi gun

[rough bloom]

also exists, kinda

[opaque wharf]

You know, this makes me wonder if it can be used for selective jamming

Throw in a phased array antenna and you're golden

[tender river]

i dont want to be a lamp

[rough bloom]

it's just directional antennas

[sage crag]

main problem is distance 2.4ghz radio waves travel in air

[tender river]

just for reference

[sage crag]

you could be a great lamp

[tender river]

m

[opaque wharf]

Throw more power at it

[tender river]

i could be convinced

[sage crag]

"let's overcome this nonlinear scaling problem by linearly scaling"

real programmer

[tender river]

ceo mindset right there

throw more money until the problem goes away

[amber fractal]

It always works

[sage crag]

hello discord i do not want orbs
orbs?

[tender river]

your orbs are waiting

[sage crag]

i bloody hope so

would be concerning if my orbs werent waiting

[tender river]

you could probably use some fancy modulation if you didnt care about wifi standards

[amber fractal]

I'd want neurorbs

not these default looking orbs

[sage crag]

1.2ghz would probably also work

[opaque wharf]

[sage crag]

aworb

[opaque wharf]

The orbs will come and force you to do its bidding instead

[tender river]

https://spectrum.ieee.org/wi-fi-lora-hybrid

[sage crag]

does WiLo mean wifi-long-range

it better not

[tender river]

it means Wi-Fi + LoRa

[sage crag]

ai wifi

hmmm where have i heard that before

[rough bloom]

what does LoRa expand to

[sage crag]

Long Range

[opaque wharf]

A brits saying this is always funny to me lol

[tender river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoRa

proprietary

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

Osmocomm

[sage crag]

made by cycleo, grenoble, france

fake place

[amber fractal]

Send over the pipes

[opaque wharf]

https://osmocom.org/

Let's set up swarm network

[tender river]

okay i see the issue

[sage crag]

i am compressible in a hydraulic press

[amber fractal]

Finally, the ability to no longer have my home network skill issue at the exchange of being less powerful

[tender river]

jeff

[sage crag]

it is very lossy compression

someone will reconstruct me eventually

wow

[tender river]

osu!catch

[sage crag]

gameplay (osu!catch)

brilliant oxymoron

[tender river]

next they will add a mod for std that allows controlling the cursor with arrow keys

ctb goes 2d

[sage crag]

c2db

[amber fractal]

I know what to inscribe on my brick when I meet someone from this chat

[sage crag]

c2b

[sage crag]

unrelated or related

[tender river]

for marketing purposes, ctb 2

[sage crag]

you could be inscribing brick on your brick

i do not know what you are inscribing

[amber fractal]

[tender river]

a sequel to the highly acclaimed and widely popular osu! gamemode

[rigid snow]

swift is... pleasant i guess

[opaque wharf]

It is a good language

[amber fractal]

Catch the brick 2 mhm

now with physical components

[rigid snow]

maybe my opinion will change once i've had enough time with it, for now i'm unimpressed

[tender river]

i almost forgot i have to reproduce a hblang bug

the bug is that 2 * 16 is equal to 2247096596955168

[olive sable]

ye i just dont fuck around when it comes to instakill electrics

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Lmao

[olive sable]

i am successfully creating swapchains now

jsut need to put them in circulation

[fading blaze]

I know I already asked that but how do y'all find specific training data for fine tuning for LLM projects

Just google it?

[olive sable]

you could i guess

there are some places with data gathered for llm training purposes

or just gather it yourself

[fading blaze]

ok but I need a specific kind of data

[olive sable]

okay

[opaque wharf]

Fine tuning implies you have specific goals that are not satisfied by off the shelf model. So I assumed it is indeed will be pretty specific and thus hard to find depending on the niche

Your best bet is just making one yourself

[fading blaze]

Well to make one myself I need training data

so I have the same problem

[opaque wharf]

What?

No, as in, make the training data yourself

[olive sable]

to make a llm clone of yourself you can for example download your discord data and then all your chat history data will be there to use as training data

[fading blaze]

I want to make Evil's idea of her using Axidraw

but instead I will have an LLM making turtle graphics programs

[opaque wharf]

Then you will need to find a bunch of turtle graphics program

[fading blaze]

Exactly

where do I find those

[olive sable]

and label them

just google them? maybe there exists a forum or subreddit

[fading blaze]

all what I can find is tutorials and super basic stuff

not like full on drawing

[opaque wharf]

That, I do not know. As I said, if the niche is very niche, you may even need to make it yourself (the dataset)