programming

[glass flower]

and the fips build system

[olive sable]

isnt the hello trianlge right there on the page? how did it take 2 days?

[glass flower]

well.. rendering a chunk

[olive sable]

ohhhh

hmmm

you mean with greedy mesher?

[glass flower]

[olive sable]

ok ok

that makes more sense

[glass flower]

i also have a memory leak in there... but... who cares right

i think it takes like 14gb of ram

[olive sable]

it did what?

at least i contain my memory leaks strictly to vram

[glass flower]

wait looks like i did fix the memory.. it only takes like 400mb now

[sage crag]

i bet you love cursive monospace fonts

[glass flower]

this you?

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermitreee-kermit-aaaaa-scream-gif-15959515

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[olive sable]

GET IT OFF MY SCREEN

AAAAA

[glass flower]

|

[opaque wharf]

I lost the RTX vedal file

[olive sable]

what a horible day to have a 27" monitor

[dapper kernel]

No, my handwriting looks worse

[olive sable]

good

[sage crag]

e

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/marikiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22138504

[sage crag]

nyope

[opaque wharf]

e = euler number?

[desert plaza]

2.71828

[olive sable]

e is a good number

[opaque wharf]

pi = e = 3

[jagged turtle]

huh

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/yeahitsjohn-yij-cant-see-johnnyboy-twitch-streamer-gif-16420518

[opaque wharf]

Nothing, I was just confused once when looking at KRANS and remember that you're KTrain is a different person. You have the same color tho, so that contributes to my confusion

[olive sable]

are you on mobile?

cuz its easy to see for me

[hoary lion]

dark mode kinda makes it hard to see

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-cant-see-gif-14215300046533223835

[olive sable]

skill issue

[sage crag]

hello empty void

[hoary lion]

fair

[opaque wharf]

Bro, I am about 40-50cm off from my screen

[olive sable]

ye me too

thats a normal distance

[opaque wharf]

Usually I am about 20cm tho when at home

[olive sable]

why?

thats bad for your neck

[hoary lion]

I always keep distance of my arm with the monitor

tbh it is still big enough

[olive sable]

ternary logic exists ye?

ternary logic circuits

you could make a pc with it supposedly

then the next step is to make it run an llm

then you have created a non-binary ai

[sage crag]

elvyn stole your account ye

[olive sable]

wdym?

[sage crag]

ye

[olive sable]

am i not allowed to say ye anymore?

lityeraly 1984

[noble zodiac]

did you read it?

[desert plaza]

alr im a light mode user now

[olive sable]

did i read what?

[noble zodiac]

1984

[olive sable]

why would i?

i spend most of my day screaming at c++

[hoary lion]

1.58bit lover

after all those years

we are still back to binary bits for calculating

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

ternary float operations per second

tflops for short

[olive sable]

if you bend the motherboard you make the pc non-straight

gay llm's when?

[sage crag]

paige

[olive sable]

paige wasnt born gay, you're just indoctrenating her with yuri pictures

[hoary lion]

never name again

[sage crag]

maybe later

[opaque wharf]

konii, since when are you a part of KDE?

[sage crag]

er

kde branding

[olive sable]

what is kde?

[sage crag]

its the k de

[olive sable]

k deutschland?

[opaque wharf]

Kool Desktop Environment

They liek to spek liek dutch

[olive sable]

kool means coal

[olive sable]

wtf did you just type?
is that how you think dutch sounds like?

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[hoary lion]

[sage crag]

[hoary lion]

isn't dutch verstappen land or something

[olive sable]

speak -> praat
like (comparison) -> zoals

thos have nothing in common with english words

[olive sable]

tu tu tu du, max verstappen

[opaque wharf]

What about their accent?

[desert plaza]

what does norwegian sound like

[olive sable]

which one? there are liek 12 of them

[opaque wharf]

PewDiePie

[hoary lion]

is pewdiepie norwegian

[olive sable]

[desert plaza]

he's swedish

[olive sable]

hes swedish

[opaque wharf]

Nordic = Pewds

[hoary lion]

yeah i though something was wrong

[tender river]

GO SLEEP

[opaque wharf]

khayleaf

[sage crag]

i slept from 1 to 5

[tender river]

[sage crag]

slept enough

[olive sable]

try not to offend every european country challenge

[hoary lion]

sleep police lmao

[olive sable]

konii.... why are you doing this to yourself?

[hoary lion]

i was quite sure that pewdiepie was anything but norwegian

[desert plaza]

do not start a war between norway and sweden plz

[opaque wharf]

It's those AbleCorp I swear

[hoary lion]

mmm

1 am

time to sleep

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, I don't know a lot about Europe

[olive sable]

yet

[rigid snow]

we do need that

[desert plaza]

fun fact: "bra" means good, fine, well in norwegian

[olive sable]

ill sit this one out

i would like to not be banned

[opaque wharf]

No one is here

[olive sable]

automod is always watching

[sage crag]

ish not on purpose

[tender river]

[olive sable]

get some melatonin or smthn idk

5 hours is not enough

i would know

[sage crag]

i feel fine

[hoary lion]

Fair

[olive sable]

feeling fine != being fine

[hoary lion]

But one day...

Those sleep will get you

[opaque wharf]

You need B day sleep

[tender river]

nobody does

[opaque wharf]

But 5 Bours is enough

Which is why bime is superior measurement unit

[olive sable]

it really sint

wrong reply

lmao

[opaque wharf]

5 Bours = 7.5 hours tho

[olive sable]

i dont care

you need at least 8h

[opaque wharf]

So 5 Bours, 8 Binute

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

i'm fine but i don't feel fine

[olive sable]

then you arent fine

[rigid snow]

i fell asleep to the koko stream bros, brain

[rigid snow]

you said one doesn't imply another

[olive sable]

i said x doesnt imply y

but y does imply x

[rigid snow]

but i disagree

[olive sable]

then beg to differ

beg and see if i care

(i wont)

[rigid snow]

i am fine

[rigid snow]

why would i beg you

[olive sable]

not when im done with you

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

6h is the recommended minimum

8h is for comfort

[olive sable]

"MINIMUM"

[sage crag]

aimslop

[rigid snow]

so i am fine, almost

[sage crag]

fieryrage jump

[olive sable]

6 hours is the minimum YOU DID 4

4

THATS NOT 6

[rigid snow]

'.'.'

[sage crag]

i am simply built different

[hoary lion]

Nah she built different

[sage crag]

productivity hours

[hoary lion]

Not me getting my line stolen

[opaque wharf]

Minimum Recommended is like Geneva Suggestion

[rigid snow]

geneva "suggestion"

[hoary lion]

Lmfa9

[sage crag]

the sun

[olive sable]

konii = giraffe?

idk too short i think

[sage crag]

[tender river]

the moon

[olive sable]

konii = baby giraffe

[sage crag]

the stars

[tender river]

🎦

[rare bramble]

you arent a giraffe though, or are you

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

konii is a tv with a picture of a giraffe. i solved the case

[rigid snow]

A newborn giraffe typically stands about 6 feet tall (1.8 meters) at birth. They grow rapidly, often doubling their height within the first year.

[olive sable]

fuck

still too long

[sage crag]

[hoary lion]

[olive sable]

konii take better care of yourself

or else

[noble zodiac]

I miss being young enough to have a trash sleep schdule

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

i have a milkshake

[olive sable]

so?

[hoary lion]

Actually going to sleep ™

[sage crag]

its tasty

[opaque wharf]

But you are young?

Oh wait, that's toast

[noble zodiac]

I'm not

[sage crag]

oldge

[hoary lion]

Uncge

[olive sable]

do you happen to live on a farm?

[sage crag]

not quite

[olive sable]

"quite"

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-nano-spinning-gif-12626501756826392034

[amber fractal]

I mean she does have ducks sooo,,,

[tender river]

i have an apple strudel

[olive sable]

so a rooster isnt the issue, you genuinly just wake up after 4 hours of sleep for no reason

[opaque wharf]

I have a big meatballs with noodles

[hoary lion]

Really really going to sleep ™, jump me if im visible

[sage crag]

actually a fox ate my chickens on friday evening

[amber fractal]

EEP

[olive sable]

poor chickens

[sage crag]

mhm

[opaque wharf]

Spicy tho

[desert plaza]

ugh where is argv anybody know?

[sage crag]

noodol

[tender river]

on the stack

[sage crag]

yeh

[tender river]

env is also in there

[desert plaza]

[noble zodiac]

next to argc

[rigid snow]

your phone camera never fails to disappoint

[sage crag]

https://git.ablecorp.eu/lily-org/lily/src/branch/trunk/src/target/runtime.hb
read this

[opaque wharf]

It still takes a picture just fine

[rigid snow]

i mean at least you don't have to use the laptop webcam to take pics of things like chay does...

[olive sable]

i had pineaple slices with white tripe sausage and rice with brown sauce
it took a while to google what the english word is for "white tripe sausage"

[opaque wharf]

And once again, never fails to be cursed

[sage crag]

useless := fn(): ^fn(): ^fn(): ^fn(): (forever) {
  return @bit_cast(@frame_pointer())
}

[tender river]

mhm

[sage crag]

[tender river]

actually its funny that you can indeed turn a return into a continuation this way

i wonder if you can call it as a function by doing something unholy

[sage crag]

useless()()()()()(...

[tender river]

segfault

[sage crag]

awa

[rigid snow]

i do that too now i'm curious what desk view is about

how do you live with a high res screen

[opaque wharf]

My webcam is not as bad lmao

[sage crag]

obs

[opaque wharf]

I don't have webcam program on my laptop

[olive sable]

could you theoretically do 2 closed brackets after eachother?
maybe if a function returned another function?

[rigid snow]

every time i send a screenshot i'm embarrassed it takes up so much space in the chat

[sage crag]

refer to above

this type of pattern is possible at runtime or comptime in hblang

[opaque wharf]

It is called higher order function I think

[olive sable]

the thing is i cant read that.
hblang syntax is giberish to me

[opaque wharf]

There's also currying

[sage crag]

x := fn(): type {
  return x
}

y := x()
z := y()
w := z()

[olive sable]

lmao it immediatly tried to connect to my phone

[opaque wharf]

It is when you make a curry with your program

[olive sable]

i wonder if there is any practical use for that

[rigid snow]

do you have desk view

[sage crag]

not like this, but yes

[olive sable]

cuz i was just thinking of returning a different function

[olive sable]

my phone just points at the ceiling, but my tablet points somewhat to me

[opaque wharf]

In C++ it is quite cursed

At least not as clean as hblang

[sage crag]

add_x := fn($x: uint): type {
    return fn(a: uint): uint return a + x
}

add_one := add_x(1)
two := add_one(1)

[tender river]

its impossible to compete with C++ in that regard

it takes a special kind of development process

[rare bramble]

you sometimes see it in python
something like function()()

[sage crag]

in python functions are objects

its cursed

it should be the other way around goddamnit

[opaque wharf]

It is fun tho

[rare bramble]

it's convenient, and since python is duck typed anyway, it kind of fits

[tender river]

🦆

[olive sable]

if you really want to see it just looks like this

[sage crag]

hdr

[olive sable]

yes

[rigid snow]

ok so desk view is interesting, it's correcting the image using phone pitch (the rotation axis) so that the ground plane is a rectangle if that makes sense

[sage crag]

@olive sable example of the a()() type syntax

[opaque wharf]

What is ground plane in this context?

[rigid snow]

they couldn't even make it work with vertical

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

the plane that would be the ground

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

Wait, so the ground become... rectangle?

Wouldn't that distort perspective?

[rigid snow]

it does

[opaque wharf]

...but why?

[sage crag]

thy

[olive sable]

what are you 'ing about?

[rigid snow]

so you can show what you're doing on your desk without mounting the phone on the ceiling probably

[sage crag]

i had a meltdown yesterday when i had to play galaxy collapse on stream

[opaque wharf]

Ahhhh

[sage crag]

nuro and her maps

[olive sable]

on stream?

[sage crag]

discord

[olive sable]

ah

[opaque wharf]

Heh, performance point clicker

[sage crag]

and then when i had to play LIFE three times

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

i played it at 1.5x speed

frickin blue zenith

[midnight sigil]

https://github.com/egranata/aria

We have "Aria" Math now

[olive sable]

nooooo

[sage crag]

its crazy that hblang doesnt have 141 stars

[olive sable]

does hblang have vulkan?

[tender river]

ablehub doesnt even have that many usesrs

[sage crag]

hblang can link to c

[noble zodiac]

does hblang use the red zone?

[sage crag]

yeah

[olive sable]

ye but that defeats the whole point, might as well just write it in c then

[tender river]

you cant use vulkan code without linking to c

[sage crag]

write some bindings, have better experience

[rigid snow]

here's what it does when i'm rotating the phone rapidly

[midnight sigil]

let's identify what languages it took reference of

[sage crag]

https://git.ablecorp.eu/mlokis/hblang/src/branch/main/examples/raylib/main.hb
here is a small thingy written in raylib that works

[olive sable]

i was typing something but i have decided what i was about o say was incredibly stupid even more than my usual bullshit levels, so i have decided to move on

[rigid snow]

roll correction

[sage crag]

javascript rust python

[amber fractal]

The only three options fr fr

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

I thought of js java py

[rigid snow]

#programming top 3 languages

[midnight sigil]

who tf uses js

[midnight sigil]

more like ts

[olive sable]

tbh my favorite language is probably glsl at this point

[amber fractal]

insert Shiro~ ping

[sage crag]

c subset real

[midnight sigil]

sorry guys I might one day offend everyone here

[olive sable]

as usual

[desert plaza]

how does one become a user of ablehub

[tender river]

asj

[sage crag]

ping erin or able

[tender river]

ask

[olive sable]

what even is ablehub?

[sage crag]

git.ablecorp.eu

[desert plaza]

alr

[midnight sigil]

https://git.ablecorp.eu/

[opaque wharf]

Does working at AbleCorp require able bodied?

[rigid snow]

i'm going to crash out, they're the same language ffs, enums don't warrant the distinction

[sage crag]

uhh not sure actually

[olive sable]

its like github but ablecorp?

[sage crag]

self hosted git instance yeah

[opaque wharf]

That's forgejo

[midnight sigil]

says by a person with .jsx as name

[olive sable]

is it specifically for hblang or will my c++ not corrupt it?

[opaque wharf]

git does not make a distinction of the language you're using

[tender river]

its for ableos

[rough bloom]

    func to_fizzbuzz_string() {
        val div_by_3 = this.is_divisible_by(3);
        val div_by_5 = this.is_divisible_by(5);
        if div_by_3 && div_by_5 {
            return "FizzBuzz";
        } elsif div_by_3 {
            return "Fizz";
        } elsif div_by_5 {
            return "Buzz";
        } else {
            return this;
        }
    }

elsif

[opaque wharf]

The one running the instance is

[rigid snow]

.tsx does not sound as nice when i'm emphasizing jsx the syntax which is still called jsx even in typescript

[opaque wharf]

el sif

[midnight sigil]

what language it's from 💀

[olive sable]

i didnt mean literaly corrupt, i meant if they would kill me for it

[rare bramble]

who uses elsif, thats like the worst of both worlds

[midnight sigil]

I mean origin of this syntax

[rough bloom]

Python has elif, looks like they couldn't decide between that and full else if

[opaque wharf]

Well, I mean that is up to the administrator too. If it is for ableOS, probably not

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

elsif

[sage crag]

ableos, hbvm related things

[midnight sigil]

why do they do that

[olive sable]

nah i prefer elif

[opaque wharf]

I prefer Evil

[olive sable]

else if feels cursed

[opaque wharf]

If () {} Evil {}

[sage crag]

well, not all of it

[amber fractal]

[tender river]

says the python user

[rare bramble]

if cond{
  stuff
}eliv{
  other stuff
}

[amber fractal]

✅

[rigid snow]

evil if (true) {
  // unreachable
}

[olive sable]

else if feels like im putting an if statement in the elseplace instead of it just being a 2nd option

[tender river]

which is exactly what you're doing actually

[olive sable]

what

why?

[opaque wharf]

I like this idea lmao

[olive sable]

no

[tender river]

why not

[olive sable]

nooo

[sage crag]

like the win nt src code

[rigid snow]

gets rid of the if (!( syntax

[opaque wharf]

if (a && b && !c) {
} else (c) {
} else {}

[olive sable]

ye nah

no thanks

[rigid snow]

implicit if

[sage crag]

if a && b && c {
} else if c {} else {}

[rough bloom]

cond do
  2 + 2 == 5 ->
    "This will not be true"
  2 * 2 == 3 ->
    "Nor this"
  1 + 1 == 2 ->
    "But this will"
end

every language should just have cond
Elixir conditionals and pattern matching is the best

[midnight sigil]

it's time to collect everyone's idea and make a neuro language

[sage crag]

i think you can do this in hblang with enums if you curse it a bit

[opaque wharf]

How about the fallthrough?

[olive sable]

i hate that
else if
is the same as

else
  if

i would have rather died not knowing that

id be like 7% happier

[tender river]

[olive sable]

kmnowing makes me activlty suffer

[rough bloom]

what fallthrough? it just checks the condition and takes the first branch
no other branches are taken after that

[sage crag]

i think it makes sense if you consider else and if to be separate expressions

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I just realized that. It is very explicit

Or verbose

[olive sable]

i thought because they were toghether it was treated diffrently. idk
python had elif which was an entirely diffrent word

[rigid snow]

this is a real thing people do in js

switch (true) {
  case 2 + 2 == 5:
    return "This will not be true";
  case 2 * 2 == 3:
    return "Nor this";
  case 1 + 1 == 2:
    return "But this will";
}

[patent walrus]

0.3 + 0.7

[rough bloom]

doesn't seem idiomatic but kinda based

[sage crag]

if cond expr else expr
is an expression. and you just plug in any expression into these.

[opaque wharf]

I have never though of using this pattern

[olive sable]

is it based or not? it definetly looks kinda cursed to me

[tender river]

this case is so cursed but since js is a dynamic language i guess it makes some sense

[opaque wharf]

You know it is cursed when people are agreeing

IN JS

[rough bloom]

it is cursed but long if-else chains also kinda suck

[olive sable]

i think ive only used switch case once so far. purely becuase i forget it exists

[tight tinsel]

i accidentally unplugged my second pc and now i need to drag the massive monitor back into my room just to turn parsec on

[sage crag]

True := enum(bool) {
    .true := true;
}

match True.true {
    // nyope cant do it
}

[south needle]

but those are mulitmodal and dont output audio, just input of audio.

[tender river]

is it because bool enum are not supported

[olive sable]

this probable should be a switch case now that i think about it

[sage crag]

its because match only accepts enum literals for arms

[tender river]

oh right that

not "noooo" shuni it makes everything easier

[rare bramble]

I mean switch cases arent reallly much better than if else chains in most langs, maybe a little more explicit. but in languages like rust where you get a compile error for not handling all possible cases, it becomes a ton more useful

[tender river]

slowly learning better brackets

[olive sable]

nope

[tender river]

brackets are redundant in that screenhot though

[olive sable]

why?

[sage crag]

you can do closures in hblang so there is an alternative way anyway

[tender river]

because c accepts a single statement in place of a for/if/while block

[olive sable]

i put the fully all on the same line or all seperate.

no "learning better"

[rough bloom]

I need my pattern matching

<<
  width::32-little-unsigned-integer,
  height::32-little-unsigned-integer,
  bin::binary-size(width * height * 4),
>> = :ezstd.decompress(imgdata_compressed)

stuff like this is too good to give up
-# this one isn't inside of a case but it could be

[olive sable]

but i thought switch cases were better?

[sage crag]

Case := struct { .r: bool; .fnc: type }
$case := fn($cases: []Case): void {
    // ...
}

case(&.[.(1 + 1 == 2, fn(): never die)])

amazing

by the way i forgot to tell you

struct { .a: type }

works completely

[olive sable]

hblang has so many random symbols its insane

i can see why it keeps you up at night

[sage crag]

its perfectly sensible when you learn the rules of the syntax

but i can see how it might be daunting

[noble zodiac]

switch is easier to read, less duplicated code and sometimes a bit faster ( maybe )

[sage crag]

i really doubt theres any cases where modern optimizing compilers like llvm dont optimise if chains to the same instructions as switches

[tender river]

godbolt time

[sage crag]

indeed

[noble zodiac]

you would be suprised. But also why I said sometimes

[sage crag]

the only immediate optimisation i can think of is hashed jump tables so there's room for skepticism

[opaque wharf]

Godbolt doesn't support hblang

[sage crag]

hblang has its own disassembly features

and compiler runs in browser

godbolt not needed

bwa

[sage crag]

to make it clear, i mean the compiler can be compiled to wasm

[opaque wharf]

hblang compiler in JS lmao

[sage crag]

if depell.mlokis.tech was still up, that is what it would be using

[olive sable]

i have switched, pun intended.
it would probably be better to just asign variables for the magic numbers but i cant be bothered

[opaque wharf]

The domain is being held hostage

[tender river]

???

[olive sable]

also im completely ignoring the possebility of a "TEXCOORD_1" which i find hilarious

[sage crag]

lol

[tender river]

i dont think this will work

[opaque wharf]

And ngl, everytime mlokis is mentioned, all I could think of is Muhammad Loki

[olive sable]

i have not tried it

[rough bloom]

oh yeah right, C++ strings

[sage crag]

mmm ptr

[olive sable]

it indeed doesnt work

why not?

[opaque wharf]

Use enum

String are a whole different beast

[tender river]

because switches only support integers

[olive sable]

fuck

back to if else we go

[tender river]

const char* ptrs are indeed integers

but you probably wouldnt want to match on that

[rough bloom]

std::string I think overloads == but not whatever a switch statement does because that's probably impossible

[olive sable]

i would indeed not want to match pointers

[rough bloom]

and if you use a char* instead then you run into issues when you happen to match a string that's not a literal from the same object

[olive sable]

sure...

i know what that means

[opaque wharf]

static

[rough bloom]

if you put "POSITION" twice in the same file (specifically the same compilation unit) then your compiler will very likely merge them into one, so their pointer will be the same

if it's somewhere else then the compiler will be glueless and won't do that, so your pointers will be different

[olive sable]

im not trying to use pointers tho

[rough bloom]

obviously also applies to anything dynamically-allocated on the heap

[noble zodiac]

why are those strings anyway. Do they come from the vulkan api or something?

[olive sable]

they come from the gltf file

jason

[noble zodiac]

unlucky

[olive sable]

i have json syntax highlighting somewhere

i forgot how tho

[opaque wharf]

You can convert them to enum if you want

[olive sable]

but why would i do that?

[opaque wharf]

Unmarshalling is usually done to simplify things when programming. Such as the case that you encounter. You can use switch-case if you perform the conversion

[olive sable]

but the problem is that you have that 0 there

but you can have 1

or 2

or how many the gltf spec decided to make possible

[glass flower]

idk if there is a limit

[olive sable]

thats the problem ye

my plan is to hopefulle look if the first x characters amtch

eventually

rn im just not supporting it cuz i dont care enough yet

[olive sable]

huh

so just as many as you want

[glass flower]

https://registry.khronos.org/glTF/specs/2.0/glTF-2.0.html#_textureinfo_texcoord

[olive sable]

the blender gltf encode is probably the limiting factor then

so either 2^32 or 2^64

[glass flower]

i don't think there is a limit in blender either

you can add as many uv maps as you want

[olive sable]

arent they just casting an int to string?

[glass flower]

wdym

[olive sable]

sorry im distracted rn

[glass flower]

there is a limit

[olive sable]

8?

why 8?

[glass flower]

looks like it

[olive sable]

In Blender, the limit for UV maps on a single object is 8. This limitation is based on OpenGL's maximum number of texture coordinate sets

huh

[glass flower]

does that mean... when vulkan becomes the default and opengl is gone... they might support more?

[olive sable]

mayhaps

[midnight sigil]

cough I see blender

[jagged turtle]

what

[olive sable]

what's the difference between uv maps and textures? cuz i remember the opengl texture limit being 32

[glass flower]

can'T you do bindless textures. and therefore not have a limit

[olive sable]

yes you can

just havent tried it before

[glass flower]

uv maps just tell how to sample a texture. like this vert is at this location in the texture

[midnight sigil]

uv maps are texture coordinates

it's representing the coordinates of a texture

[olive sable]

why are texture coordinates limited tho? its jsut a vec2

[midnight sigil]

ask opengl

[olive sable]

i dont get it tho, wouldnt it be 32 like the texture limit?

[glass flower]

why.

you can reuse the UV between textures

[olive sable]

yes

maybe im not 100% clear on what a uv map is supposed to do?

[glass flower]

its literally just a 0-1 on where to sample from a texture

thats all

[olive sable]

and the reason for having multiple maps is to change where you sample no?

[glass flower]

each face can overlap the same uv space

i never used more than 1 uv map in my life

[olive sable]

ye me neither

[glass flower]

you rarely if ever use more than 1 uv

[opaque wharf]

Explicitly, it has types. Implicitly it has any type because it runs on JS

[glass flower]

maybe a second uv for like wind parameters or some other exotic stuff...

but then you would probably use vertex attributes instead

[olive sable]

i mainly only use 1

for special cases i dont use any

[rough bloom]

yeah, AFAIK for 3D rendering it's basically just how you unwrap the mesh into 2D space so that you can texture it
there's very little reason to need 2 ways to do that

you can certainly use multiple textures, but multiple UV maps is weird

[olive sable]

im pretty sure that gltf changes texcoords_0 / 1 / 2 just for when a texturee changes too, not specifically for when blender has a diffrent uv map

dont quote me on this tho

[tender river]

so did neuro

[rigid snow]

konii is neuro confirmed

[midnight sigil]

UVs count towards vertex attributes, maybe they need to reserve spaces for other attributes

actually just look in the code and see why

[tender river]

neuro is better at osu!

[olive sable]

according to this random blender forum you can just remove the limit

[tender river]

though i havent seen konii and neuro in the same multi room

[rigid snow]

she’s just using a different playstyle as neuro

smaller area

[tender river]

it'd have to be like 1cm tall to make a difference

[midnight sigil]

konii uses area randomizer

[tender river]

rarely

[midnight sigil]

and filters

[rigid snow]

i used to use an almost 1cm tall area

[tender river]

i uesd to keep randomizer on 24/7 but dont do that nowadays

[midnight sigil]

she's trying to look less like neuro

[rigid snow]

fine motor skill training

[midnight sigil]

technically, you can "remove" the limit by just using normal generic vec2 vertex attributes

it's probably a historical issue

[olive sable]

it is ye

[glass flower]

i think the smallest area i used to use was like 30mm

[olive sable]

gpu's have increased the limits

[midnight sigil]

as opengl 2.0 uses 8 as vert attr limit

I'll happy to submit a pr or issue to blender later

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

spam that ticket

[olive sable]

sure

you didnt get it from me tho

dont even mention me

[midnight sigil]

some vulkan guy

[midnight sigil]

oh

lol

[olive sable]

i still dont see why its a limitation. i thought it would jsut be another in vec2

[midnight sigil]

seems like they just say "it's too much work"

classic tech debt

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

it pretty much involves around the blender's main body and renderers

making it disappear would cause compatibility issues

"too much work"

[jagged turtle]

...right, that's not wrong

[olive sable]

i wonder if i could make my game run on a watch

1.5GB ram and 16GB space

that 2 days abttery life is a scam its still only 10 hours

[midnight sigil]

[sage crag]

i was actually trying to make my aim look more like neuro

lol

[midnight sigil]

that's why you have such shaky aim

cheater

[sage crag]

my aim is stable

[midnight sigil]

as someone who is a professional coder, I can guarantee that those movements are from an algorithm designed in java

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

[olive sable]

like wdym? itt didnt have acces before?

i have had this watch for more than a year

[midnight sigil]

wait how do you take screenshots on a watch

[olive sable]

You press the power and back button at the same time

[midnight sigil]

high technology

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[jagged turtle]

nah I don't want to give the photo viewing application access to my photos

too risky

ignore that not doing so would kill the entire app's purpose

[brisk laurel]

help...

[trim valve]

it gives you a bash shell with some git commands on windows

[brisk laurel]

can i uninstall it without any damage to my pc? cause i dont use it anymore

[trim valve]

if you don't ues git, probably?

[rough bloom]

you can probably uninstall it if you don't use Git

only exception is if some other application installed it as a dependency

but you would probably know if that was the case

[brisk laurel]

i dont know

[desert plaza]

do you know that this is a shortcut?

[rough bloom]

Then you can uninstall it

[brisk laurel]

i forgot why i even installed it in the first place

[brisk laurel]

no?
at least i dont think i do

[desert plaza]

so do you know how to uninstall it?

[brisk laurel]

huh why i try to press on it it shows me this

[brisk laurel]

bull crap uninstaller

[desert plaza]

i see

[brisk laurel]

so do i uninstall it or not

[brisk laurel]

cause of this

[desert plaza]

yeah just uninstall it

[opaque sigil]

the error is fine, it's apparently due to git for windows not being able to cope with certain security measures from windows so you'd either have to update it or make an exception to get it to work

but if you don't plan on using it just yeet it

[fierce pasture]

my crew, my people, my loved ones. Here.

[rigid snow]

we don't like vedal here too

[sage crag]

[fierce pasture]

someone learning infosec here?

[faint sandal]

[sage crag]

why nopers in 30fps

where nopers in 15fps

[faint sandal]

[sage crag]

ye

thank

[faint sandal]

[sage crag]

what

waytoodank

[faint sandal]

[sage crag]

[brisk laurel]

Ive uninstalled and deleted 40GB of data in my drive

[opaque wharf]

The joy of not having package manager

Let's play a game of "what needs this as dependency?"

[fierce pasture]

shoot

[opaque wharf]

Well, you can start by figuring out what programs needing git in the first place that lysara have installed

[rigid snow]

if you don’t have a package manager on your target platform and you don’t ship the dependency yourself you probably deserve the user to hate you

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, I like how windows programs look for dll in the same directory first so multiple programs with different version can be easily installed even if ill advised

On linux, that thing is only gaining traction fairly recently I think with flatpak (and to some extent, appimage, but it is not that popular)

[rigid snow]

we don’t talk about snaps

or do we

snaps are great

[opaque wharf]

Snaps is great in theory

In theory that is

[noble zodiac]

snaps suck and so does ubuntu

[rough bloom]

before flatpaks and stuff there was static linking
obviously very different technologies but do basically the same job of bundling dependencies

[patent shard]

why are the Neuro clips/videos audio compressed to heck sometimes?
it just sounds.. weird..
also, on that osu clip, why was Neuro's voice increased so much was a little jarring to me

[rigid snow]

“before there was” static linking, alive but forgotten

also tell that to rust

[rough bloom]

the Go language in question

[amber fractal]

rust will static link so hard that you get the same library multiple times

[tender river]

i am statically linked

[rough bloom]

are you position independent

[tender river]

no

[rough bloom]

[tender river]

refer to the relocation section in my header

[rough bloom]

relocatable

[trim valve]

vscode please leave me alone

[tender river]

dev stream

[charred fable]

Huh... I feel the sudden urge of using it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266517357982121985/1399448224426889236/image.png?ex=68890939&is=6887b7b9&hm=2831f58eacc26ee31abbf6b4588a18718b02e279bd8228e4c95b54352fdfb765&

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-embed-failure-gif-15456327638408323033

[warped narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-embed-fail-embed-gif-9722294440617564781

[charred fable]

Perhaps I have no rights. I shamble

[amber fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266517357982121985/1399448224426889236/image.png?ex=68890939&is=6887b7b9&hm=2831f58eacc26ee31abbf6b4588a18718b02e279bd8228e4c95b54352fdfb765&

I think you should use it

[charred fable]

Living dangerous is the only fun way to live

[amber fractal]

Looking at your tag, I can see that

Another NixOS user has breached containment. Not that I'm any better.

[charred fable]

We need to spread the virus

[amber fractal]

Quite a few people here already use it

[charred fable]

perfect

[amber fractal]

I used to run into @tender river 's repos when I started NixOS, and that is before I met her,

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

You're famous chay

Because I think I also remember encountering your site before I even get in here

[opaque sigil]

i hate you all, probably 90% of the code i've written this month has been nix

[mystic wind]

i saw a video of 6 y ago and he is explaining how a ANN works, basically a neuron is a node that can do function for example input and output, in the middle is a node that is what the neuron do, like for this input do this things and u can add neurons or things that the machine can do based on the input, still not understanding why i do need math, for what, if i’m programming in python or c++ i can do a neuron by a simple function and if i want to connect that neuron to another, maybe is there where i need math but i still don’t understand How. i don’t see any practical example of math being used for a neuron example a machine that have to move my mouse based on where is the enemy, no need to mathematic (?) i think, i’m not saying there is no need i’m saying i don’t understand why, ofc machine is a bunch of 1&0 but, for high level programming language, there are already functions for math no? i repeat myself, i’m not attacking anyone, i’m just trying to understand and learn , because i’m new i have so much to learn so, thanks in advance guys 🙏🏻🫶🏻

[nocturne olive]

That's not the usual ANN
Look up multilayer perceptrons

Those are computed with matrix multiplication on GPUs for massive scales

[opaque wharf]

Btw, who is the colab partner here?

[tender river]

the merch company

[opaque wharf]

Wait, it's real?

[tender river]

yeah

[opaque wharf]

[mystic wind]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nLSCKF_g8ic?si=X03mvDRM1nzP_E4j

like this?

[nocturne olive]

That's a simple perceptron, multilayer perceptron puts a ton of those one after another as fully connected layers using matrix multiplication

[mystic wind]

the math i need is like
enemy position = 300
mouse position = 2
function = move mouse from 2 to 300

[nocturne olive]

That's not even an AI model at that point, that's just an algorithm

[mystic wind]

do u have sum explaining well what an ai is ?

[tender river]

server dead again

[mystic wind]

cause i think that’s just the base i’m missing

[opaque wharf]

Your server?

[tender river]

yup

bcachefs issues

gotta troubleshoot again

[nocturne olive]

An articial neural network, or ANN model is a model that uses a linear-algebra model, that can be trained with backpropegation to fit a set of data, called a dataset, to achieve a certain result, such as in the case of the MNIST database, classifying handwritten digits, that being considered a kind of "Hello world" machine learning project

[mystic wind]

ok now i have a point here, thank you master

[nocturne olive]

I just silly around and make vocal synthesizers, nothing crazy

[worldly plank]

void movemouse() {
    mouse = 300; // assuming mouse is global
}

[opaque wharf]

Am I mistaking bcachefs with btrfs? Isn't one of those a bit dangerous as you can lose a few minutes of work when the system suddenly lose power?

[gaunt vale]

I accidentally made a questionable robot

[tender river]

bcachefs and btrfs are different filesystems but also both are modern filesystems with journaling

[opaque wharf]

Hmm, I may have misread it on the other server then. Someone borked their arch install after a sudden power loss when running upgrade

[tender river]

thats not a filesystem issue

thats an arch skill issue

[slender harness]

Yea, you're supposed to have a rescue disk in that inevitable scenario

[tender river]

arch doesnt do atomic updates

[proven rain]

How do people (like in the game jam) create games for Neuro's API? I thought all of Neuro's code was non-public

or is the API actually a generic thing used for more than Neuro

[tender river]

https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/

[proven rain]

ah, so Vedal shared that specifically 👌

[tender river]

it's not neuro code, just an interface that neuro implements

[proven rain]

yeah I see, not really part of the LLM

[stark needle]

a neuron layer is at the end just a weighted sum passed through an activation function e.g. relu which is f(y)=max(0,x)

[hoary lion]

just a simple math calculations

and then add some non-linear

[hoary lion]

bro it is only a 0.05GB model why do I need 31GB for compiling that

the math aint mathing

[rigid snow]

i'm so conflicted on finishing the llm touchbar keyboard thing

on one hand it's a very cool idea and i really wanna see how it'll work

on the other hand, i would not wish working with apple apis on my worst enemy

it's so miserable

[stark needle]

WAIT SO MUCH WHAT

[rigid snow]

maybe i should ditch rust and do swift at this point but my familiarity with how swift works is at 0

at least i wouldn't have to write bindings

probably, unless i touch private apis

[twilit finch]

Bruh my AI Neuro Chatbot

[opaque sigil]

does setting theTF_FORCE_GPU_ALLOW_GROWTH env variable to true fix this?

[opaque wharf]

Why are you torturing yourself even more than you should already do by doing this cursed thing

[stark needle]

1:1 perfect replica

[opaque sigil]

if your primary use case for rust is interfacing with native apple apis just use swift honestly

[twilit finch]

has its own ai for a filter just like neuro lol

She sent
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1399158315254022187/1399492835144896662/1399492530277711993_reply.wav?ex=688932c5&is=6887e145&hm=bb12be29e161dd100190f515718e9b83e1126655506ea2b1fb55eff391d7002d&

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-embed-failure-gif-15456327638408323033

[twilit finch]

its not even an embed fail its just i dont want to download the wav again

thats what my neuro chatbot sent

[opaque wharf]

That voice is.... something

[twilit finch]

its edgetts ada voice or whatever

[rare bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-gif-755778526580687527

[sick owl]

:mhm:

[rigid snow]

what the fuck it's real

can it not see whether it has an image or not and just hallucinates whatever

with a heavy bias towards equations

that's crazy

[rigid snow]

almost as bad as flutter

[tender river]

swift is cool

i definitely prefer it over C# at least

[opaque sigil]

i like swift as a language, idk about everything around it
was very bureaucratic whenever i tried it

[tender river]

the server can wait i played like 6 or 7 hours of osu! today i'll sleep right away

[rigid snow]

as far as i understand they're super big on interop, and i've seen some obscure apple stuff with swift, as far as i remember it's pretty easy to work with private apis even so should be a better experience

[opaque sigil]

almost as if it's a language primarily by apple for apple

[rigid snow]

yeah what's up with that

[twilit finch]

They timed out my bot lol
https://i.imgur.com/cOXofYO.png

[tender river]

heres your homework, #programming, figure out how to (topologically) make neuro's 4-sided invertible hoodie a reality

[amber fractal]

hmm

[twilit finch]

hard challenge

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[amber fractal]

This seems interesting

[twilit finch]

i just realized i have embeded perms lol

[amber fractal]

Congrats on having newfound rights

[hoary lion]

is this a joke or real fix

[opaque sigil]

it tells tensorflow to not allocate all the memory upfront

and only use what it needs

(yes, i had to find this out the hard way)

[twilit finch]

I just saw there was a programmer that made a insane app for a very young age they Said "I coded it myself" and theres just AI Comments in there code...

[amber fractal]

I want to say that you add a zipper on the side of two inversables and flip that.

[opaque sigil]

if it works who cares (big if)

[amber fractal]

How it would exactly function I don't know at the moment

[hoary lion]

tbh it doesn't matter

unless there is serious security issues

for vibe coding apps

[stark needle]

User: Yo homie can you like introduce urself concisely?

Model: I'm just a little AI assistant, but I'm here to help you out with whatever you need. I'm pretty chill and easy to get along with, so feel free to ask me anything. I'm always up for a good time and conversation. I'm not gonna lie, I love to chat and learn new things. So let's get to know each other a little bit more, okay? I'm here for you.

what the frick did i create lol

[rigid snow]

you nullified your training, congrats. this reads like an average llm response

[twilit finch]

My Friend: lmfao meaning

Neuro-Sama AI Chatbot by me: {Filtered}

[stark needle]

wym nullified training

[rigid snow]

idk what your goal was but this reads like something an average "base" model would say

[hoary lion]

lil model is not being concise

[twilit finch]

Mine:

[opaque sigil]

E

[twilit finch]

https://i.imgur.com/cgAiUBG.png

[stark needle]

i can fix that surely

[rigid snow]

seeing arm64-apple-macosx as a target name is so weird

[amber fractal]

Stealing from a plush I currently don't have access to. A convertible pokeball to Igglybuff plush, it's method of inversing is a double sided zipper and feeding itself through. Should be able to stack with the inside out method that most jackets use.
-# Steps: Get a zippable jacket and a hoodie, modify the zipper to be double sided, stitch the two so that they stack, profit.

[stark needle]

this was the original

Yo! I’m Gemma, a large language model created by the Gemma team at Google DeepMind. I’m an open-weights model, meaning I’m widely available for anyone to use! Basically, I’m here to chat and help you out with text-based tasks. 😊

[rigid snow]

oh my god

[hoary lion]

gemma love

[stark needle]

yea

i did kinda fix it

[twilit finch]

lmao
https://i.imgur.com/UGr0p21.png
not even my neuro knows

my console logs rn:
AI Reply: [Filtered.]
AI Reply: [Filtered.]
AI Reply: [Filtered.]
AI Reply: [Filtered.]

[amber fractal]

I'm still smarter than AI for now :SAVED:

[rigid snow]

i now understand why people buy those crazy $6000 macbooks

i imported appkit and swiftui as a test and now it's compiling the world

it's been 15 minutes since anything visibly changed

rust move over fr

and it's not stuck, i see stuff appearing and disappearing in module cache and my cpu is crying

[twilit finch]

Me: say hi to the programming channel of neuro sama discord server

Chatbot: https://i.imgur.com/FApltrS.png

[amber fractal]

she hates us

[rigid snow]

it would be terrifying if she liked us

[twilit finch]

AGAIN
https://i.imgur.com/4pTY9yv.png

im going to check her logs to see what shes saying

uhh
https://i.imgur.com/fNPl3dM.png

Great lol
[Original AI Reply] Oh! Okay! I said FUCK. Wow! I did it! You can ban me now.

---

[Filtered by AI Filter]
[Final Sent Reply] [Filtered.]

[nocturne olive]

You should at least be using Neuro RVC to get a better voice match

[amber fractal]

The more I think about this the more I want it, dang it

It'd be fun to figure out how to deal with adding pockets to this thing.

[hoary lion]

this did not work, almost obviously cause im using jax

[stark needle]

YES

[opaque sigil]

damn i got baited with the error message

[hoary lion]

classic jax behavior tbh

uses tensorflow or something in some what way

but not so important

[twilit finch]

I have the rvc but idk how to implent it...

The v12 one?

[nocturne olive]

V12.1 is latest

You just need an RVC runtime you can call from your code, then you load the model and index, and feed your TTS audio trough that

[twilit finch]

Let me see what one i have

V12.1

[nocturne olive]

That's latest then

[twilit finch]

It's some open source RVC That runs on gradio how will I use that? Post Requests?

[amber fractal]

I seem to recall an API

[stark needle]

this is so fascinating

[twilit finch]

cool

[twilit finch]

dude cmd.exe isn't responding

https://i.imgur.com/eSX5aG8.png

[sick owl]

This is why I love Mistral Small

[hoary lion]

tool calling?

[sick owl]

Good luck finding many non thinking models in that size class that can solve a riddle like this

[stark needle]

no

it's from its own knowledge

[twilit finch]

https://i.imgur.com/LBwQ8Bf.png

peeka-boo

[nocturne olive]

I assume you manually added the models to it

[twilit finch]

I'm going to use the normal RVC

[nocturne olive]

What do you mean "normal RVC"?

[twilit finch]

https://github.com/RVC-Project/Retrieval-based-Voice-Conversion-WebUI

[nocturne olive]

I mean, what matters is if it has bindings for your programming language to use its inference engine

And I guess slightly important is if you can set the inference params to the optimal ones

[twilit finch]

(venv) C:\AI\NeuroSama\RVC>pip install -r Requirements.txt
'pip' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

(venv) C:\AI\NeuroSama\RVC>
uhhh

i think i have to recreate the venv

[charred fable]

People can have their own neuro? o,o

[twilit finch]

Mine is just a discord chatbot

[nocturne olive]

Technically, if you program it yourself
It also won't have the same LLM, but you can at least get really close on voice

I wouldn't know though, I just do Neuro vocal synthesis

[rigid snow]

if you want to get close on voice you can use the actual voice

superbox you should think about that

[charred fable]

I weren't much surprised on that, more so over the fact it's literally called neuro :o

[nocturne olive]

For TTS yes, if you can use Azure

[charred fable]

I thought it might be copyright or smth idk

[nocturne olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49CrynNZAR0
In case someone somehow hasn't seen it yet

[twilit finch]

Why does it sound like a heavily modified version of Miku lol

[nocturne olive]

Silly

What about it makes you think Miku?

[twilit finch]

idk

[nocturne olive]

It's NeuroSynth, the only thing they have in common is they're a vocal synthesizer with a well known character behind them

It's not even the same architecture

[twilit finch]

I'm going to have 3 AI's running on my PC Now we got Neuro Chatbot her Filter and her voice lmao

[nocturne olive]

You got some good GPU for that stuff?

Or is the LLM just tiny?

[twilit finch]

I just use 2 llamas for Neuro and then RVC for her voice I have a RTX 3050

[nocturne olive]

RTX 3050...

I assume that's llama 3B?

Q4 I hope

Also can't you use the same model for the filter and the main AI?

[twilit finch]

I think its mistral-7b

[nocturne olive]

8GB VRAM is just so tiny for something like that

You just said llama though??

[twilit finch]

No... llama for the filter mistral-7b for her ai

[nocturne olive]

Also how are you running 2x 7B models?

One 7B model should already be all the VRAM

[twilit finch]

idk it just works

[nocturne olive]

Is the filter 1B?

Which llama model is it?

[twilit finch]

llama2

[opaque sigil]

swap go brr

[nocturne olive]

I really hope you at least use a quantized version of the Mistral model

[nocturne olive]

I think the smallest there is 7B
You should really be using llama 3.2 3B for the filter or something

And both your models should be Q4 quants

[twilit finch]

https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Mistral-7B-Instruct-v0.1-GGUF/blob/main/mistral-7b-instruct-v0.1.Q4_0.gguf

[nocturne olive]

Good, at least you got that right

[charred fable]

I usually use these
https://huggingface.co/LiquidAI/LFM2-1.2B

[nocturne olive]

https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Mistral-7B-Instruct-v0.2-GGUF/blob/main/mistral-7b-instruct-v0.2.Q4_K_S.gguf
You could however use this

[twilit finch]

What ones better for my use?

[nocturne olive]

And for filter https://huggingface.co/MaziyarPanahi/Llama-3.2-3B-Instruct-GGUF/blob/main/Llama-3.2-3B-Instruct.Q4_K_S.gguf

[twilit finch]

I will download that

[nocturne olive]

Usually just take an up-to-date version of the model you can run

[nocturne olive]

This is an updated version of the Mistral

[nocturne olive]

This is a more reasonably sized filter model

Those two might fit in your VRAM together, though it may be tight, you will have to look in task manager to check VRAM usage

[glass flower]

wouldn't mistral-small be the latest version?

[nocturne olive]

That's 24B

Way too big for a 3050

I could run that with my 3090, but that doesn't make it useful to this other person

[glass flower]

there is a mistral 8b that was updated 6 hours ago

[nocturne olive]

Hm?

[glass flower]

https://huggingface.co/mistralai/Ministral-8B-Instruct-2410

wait. its a ministral

those names are confusing

[charred fable]

Though i am still waiting for one that is around 5B ish

[nocturne olive]

Why are you using a model that tiny? Do you just have a very bad GPU?

[glass flower]

qwen 3 has a 4b model

[twilit finch]

{
"discord_bot_token": "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx",
"bot_mention_name": "Neuro-sama",
"tts_audio_dir": "tts_audio",
"gguf_model_path": "models/mistral-7b-instruct-v0.2.Q4_K_S.gguf",
"filter_model_path": "models/Llama-3.2-3B-Instruct.Q4_K_S.gguf"
}

that good for my config.json (got rid of token)

[nocturne olive]

https://huggingface.co/DevQuasar/mistralai.Ministral-8B-Instruct-2410-GGUF/blob/main/mistralai.Ministral-8B-Instruct-2410.Q4_K_M.gguf
Well, there exists this

[charred fable]

It's a new gen model. I tried both qwen3 7B and LFM2 1.2 and i couldn't see any difference in results beside much faster inference

[nocturne olive]

I assume somewhere in your code you set N-GPU-layers

[nocturne olive]

I assume you have a quite low VRAM card

[twilit finch]

what do you mean?

[nocturne olive]

So you can't poke into the 24B ranges

[nocturne olive]

How many layers of the model is allocated on the GPU, you know, a basic parameter which is required to use the GPU

[twilit finch]

I never done that but it worked fine..

[nocturne olive]

Is it slow?

[charred fable]

And what's the issue with that? o-o

[nocturne olive]

And does it make your CPU usage max out?

[glass flower]

im pretty sure it is automatically using all the gpu

[nocturne olive]

Just that there could be models with better capabilities in the bigger ranges

Nothing wrong with using small models with small VRAM

[twilit finch]

Talking to me? cuz yeah it is

[nocturne olive]

It depends on the library

[nocturne olive]

Have you checked task manager at any point during usage?

[charred fable]

Just try it. I really do believe it's on par with 8B models.

[nocturne olive]

I can't bother to set up llama.cpp and program something to poke at it right now

[twilit finch]

My task manager broke and will not open even after restart

[nocturne olive]

Uhh
Install Linux

At the point task manager breaks, you're screwed if you stick to Windows

Unless you want to in-place reinstall, but that isn't exactly something one would think of

You need some way to varify what is causing your stuff to be slow

[charred fable]

At the point task manager breaks, you're screwed if you stick to Windows

[nocturne olive]

Oh yeah, absolutely true

Meanwhile I got btop and nvidia-smi

[hoary lion]

excuse me but WHAT?

bro i have 5090

[nocturne olive]

What may you be trying to do?

[hoary lion]

audio model training

ughh jax is getting painful for real

[opaque sigil]

9TB allocation seems fine

wait no