programming

[potent birch]

Thanks will watch that later

[olive sable]

while a milion instances was a cool number, i have lowered it to about 250k

[tender river]

irresponsible screeps owner

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

ill probably leave it at this for now

its 2000 fps with 196608 animated grass blades and 327680 static grass blades

[gritty dust]

Sam, you ever see 1 liter of maple syrup

[olive sable]

no

i have not even seen maple syrup in general

[gritty dust]

One liter is yummy

[gritty dust]

Also cinema I'm saving that

[hoary lion]

man these padding and masks

[tender river]

erm

theres a bug in the sat solver but the fuzzer cant find it

[hoary lion]

whut

[tender river]

i'm making a second sat solver (in haskell this time) but it doesnt work

[hoary lion]

never heard sat solver in my life

but it is haskell so very pog

[tender river]

you give it boolean equations like (A or B or not C) and (not A or B) and C and it gives a solution or says that it's impossible

it's an NP-complete problem but for the kind of equations that usually occur in real problems there are some ways of solving it very quickly

[olive sable]

a

w

a

[opaque sigil]

sometimes i regret having patched my mono font with every glyph in existence, 6.6M for a single font

slight difference for the whole pack

[tender river]

i use noto sans mono which is 1.6m, but also nerd fonts symbols mono as fallback which is 2.4mb

[opaque sigil]

seems reasonable, i wasn't sure which glyphs i'll actually need so i figured i'd just use all of them

looks like it's 8.5M after encrypting, guess that makes 120M in total
i should probably find another place to store these than a git repo but eh, they never change so it should be fiiiiine

[sage crag]

wawa

[olive sable]

awaw

[sage crag]

nyo

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/waifucubbie-waifucubbie-nyo-waifucubbie-no-myotterhalf-myotterhalf-nyo-gif-26070233

[opaque wharf]

Awa

[sage crag]

faceplant

go

[tender river]

if the fuzzer can't find the bug it doesn't exist

case closed

[sage crag]

true

just like all those hblang bugs

[tender river]

i'll pretend that the code works correctly and work on optimizing it instead

[sage crag]

if you optimise it well enough bug will go away

abwabwa

[tender river]

true

[opaque wharf]

Or bug will run F A S T E R

[bitter coral]

What should I add next now that I can move layers around? I’m not sure how to do frame ui.

[opaque wharf]

However you do it, don't do it like GIMP

[tender river]

gimp is good

[opaque wharf]

Okay, now go and make a circle with hole in the middle with exactly 8px thick and have 50px diameter

[tender river]

thats pretty easy

i'd have more trouble doing that in krita if anything

[opaque wharf]

Is it? I only know using the circle select, color, and then try my best to make another circle with the required delta

[tender river]

theres the shrink selection tool

[opaque wharf]

It did not cross my mind to use that

[tender river]

mhm you do have to know how to use the tools gimp gives you

theres a lot of them

[opaque wharf]

Indeed, and a lot of dialog

[sage crag]

awa

[tender river]

awa

[opaque wharf]

This implies GIMP is a very chatty program

[bitter coral]

Speaking of circles it’s fine if I use Is_in_circle() on a rect to draw them instead of implementing a circle algorithm right? I know the algorithm would be better but I don’t want to do that when there’s a simple solution.

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

97e0

[opaque wharf]

And pray tell, how does this is_in_circle function work?

[bitter coral]

I have no clue why Godot has bresenham line but not any circle algorithms. Just this: bool is_point_in_circle(point: Vector2, circle_position: Vector2, circle_radius: float)

Returns true if point is inside the circle or if it's located exactly on the circle's boundary, otherwise returns false.

[sage crag]

the bresenham line algorithm is easy to extend to a circle drawing algorithm

probably why

[amber fractal]

I do admit it is verbose, Honestly still need to learn all of the tools or try out kirta like I've been meaning to

[bitter coral]

Yeah but don’t you have to make modifications to the algorithm?

[opaque wharf]

No?

[amber fractal]

That UI is still very imposing to me

[opaque wharf]

Alright, I'm still on mobile but this seems like a good resource
https://arumugarajg.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/bresenham-line-and-circle.pdf

This is an example implementation
https://zingl.github.io/bresenham.html

[tender river]

i optimized it and its still slow but the bug is gone

its probably because of O(log N) var assignment instead of O(1)

its not much but it adds up when you do branching recursion

[bitter coral]

Im just asking why godot decided to not give us a circle algorithm when they gave us the line algorithm. The resource seems good enough but where should that function be placed, in my brush script?

[tender river]

O(log N) multiplier causing an exponential blowup is so annoying

you're a hashmap please be fast

[desert plaza]

my gnome console crashed... again

rip all my tabs

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, if I were making a similar program I'd make each brush share the same interface to draw, and the config will control how it is drawn

Classic strategy pattern

[opaque wharf]

What are you using the console for that warrants opening so many tabs?

[bitter coral]

I have my brush as a resource for some reason when I only have one of them.

[tender river]

lol

[desert plaza]

well, i use my terminal for opening datasheet PDFs, playing music, and work inside of multiple directories

[opaque wharf]

People that live inside the terminal truly are built different

[desert plaza]

this is how im used to operate now

i also only edit files in neovim

[tender river]

this makes so much sense when you consider that i'm doing it for every single assigned variable on every single backtracking path

but i dont like it

[opaque wharf]

How would you even optimize that

[tender river]

well, pretty easy, dont use a hashmap

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[worldly plank]

Reject GUI
Return to TTY

[olive sable]

if it runs faster than the bug will exist for less time

so the bug WILL go away

[rough bloom]

GNOME user

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-gnome-hit-south-park-gif-17376514

maybe i should leave gnome

oh wait, im lazy nvm

[desert plaza]

so real

[olive sable]

reject gui

let the user figure it out

they're smart enough

probably

we dont need the graphics part of user interface

[desert plaza]

discord tty client when?

[rough bloom]

already exists
but is against Discord ToS because 3rd party client

[gritty dust]

... you're overestimating peoples intelligence when it comes to gui lol

[olive sable]

if they cant figure it out then they dont deserve to use it

[gritty dust]

lol

[desert plaza]

smh ToS

[uneven pulsar]

I got an recursion error for exeding the maximum limit

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/please-give-more-context-gif-22337965

[opaque sigil]

Just increase the limit

Problem solved

[desert plaza]

yeah who needs limits anyways

they are far too limiting imho

ngl

fr

no cap

on god

[amber fractal]

Me when python doesn't do tail based recursion

unlike every sane language, python doesn't optimize the function call away

[tender river]

debatable

tail recursion is a thing in functional languages but in all imperative languages tail recursion is not a thing because they care about the call stack

so you wont find tail recursion in rust or js

[rough bloom]

pretty sure that tail call optimization is a thing in C++ at least, probably also Rust because LLVM
it's just not guaranteed

[tender river]

also tail recursion is just a functional alternative to loops

[rough bloom]

for functional languages it is often guaranteed because they rely on it to have loops

[opaque wharf]

I do know that NodeJS doesn't do tail call optimization

[hard raptor]

Also, any recommendations on thermal paste? I now have a 17 euro noctua tube in the list

[opaque wharf]

And probably never will https://node.green/#ES2015-optimisation-proper-tail-calls--tail-call-optimisation-

[opaque wharf]

Usually what I see on most tech vids is artic something or grizzly something

[hard raptor]

It's probably not bad thermal paste, but it is way more expensive than most others

[hard raptor]

Alr

[trim valve]

I think I just used whatever noctua stuff came with my cooler and it was fine

[rough bloom]

it's required by the ECMAScript spec but V8 just decided not to implement it

[opaque wharf]

Yep

[hard raptor]

Then the main list is this now

[v] Case: NZXT H9 Flow (€165)
[  ] CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X  (€349)
[  ] AIO Cooler: NZXT Kraken plus 360 (€192,49)
[v] Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX (€139)
[  ] RAM: Kingston FURY Beast 64GB - DIMM - DDR5 (2x 32GB) (€164,90)
[  ] PSU: Corsair RM1000e - 1000W (€169,90)
[  ] Arctic thermal paste (€7.85)

Estimated total (w/o additional fans): €1,188.13
Left: €884.14

[rough bloom]

Arctic Silver or Noctua paste should also be fine, I'm probably forgetting some other options
they usually have various tiers of thermal paste too
as long as you get a decent one the difference won't be noticeable

[hard raptor]

I now put this one on the list

[rough bloom]

yeah that's fine too

pretty sure that I'm using Arctic MX-5 right now, I can't make comparisons but it does work

[hard raptor]

This one has better reviews tho

Nah imma do the thermal grizzly

[bitter coral]

Dragging layers around messing up my undo system and I have another bug somewhere I think.

[hard raptor]

[v] Case: NZXT H9 Flow (€165)
[  ] CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X  (€349)
[  ] AIO Cooler: NZXT Kraken plus 360 (€192,49)
[v] Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX (€139)
[  ] RAM: Kingston FURY Beast 64GB - DIMM - DDR5 (2x 32GB) (€164,90)
[  ] PSU: Corsair RM1000e - 1000W (€169,90)
[  ] Thermal Grizzly thermal paste (€12)

Estimated total (w/o additional fans): €1192.28
Left: €888.29

This seems good like that right?
(I moved the m.2 SSDs and GPU to a "later upgrades" list)

[rough bloom]

you're probably massively overspending on the AIO but I think that has been said already

[hard raptor]

The upgrades list in question:

[  ] 1st SDD:  Samsung 990 EVO Plus - 1TB (€86,90)
[  ] 2nd SSD: Samsung 990 EVO Plus - 1TB (€86,90)
[  ] New GPU: Gigabyte AMD Radeon 7600 XT 16GB (€364)
[  ] New 1st monitor: MSI MAG 27CQ6F - 27 inches - 2560 x 1440 (€169)
[  ] New 2nd monitor: MSI MAG 27CQ6F - 27 inches - 2560 x 1440 (€169)
[  ] Hdmi cable 1:3m 4k Cable (€3,49)
[  ] Hdmi cable 2: 3m 4k Cable (€3,49)

Total: €882.78
Left: €882.78

[hard raptor]

Yeah.. they told me to just get an air cooler.. but i want the AIO cooler cuz it looks good

[rough bloom]

I mean, the expensive part is the display, not even the AIO itself

[hard raptor]

Yeah

I am aware

[rough bloom]

if you just want an AIO then consider something like an Arctic Liquid Freezer III instead
might perform better too, idk couldn't find a direct comparison

[hard raptor]

Like this one?

It also looks pretty

I still prefer the NZXT one, but i will talk to my financial advisor next week

[rigid snow]

what the hell, why do you need a 360mm aio, is the 7900x this bad

[hard raptor]

Oh no i though i would just get something that looks good that i can also use if i ever decide to upgrade

[rough bloom]

you probably don't need one but the price difference between 240 or 280 mm to 360 mm is not that large

[hard raptor]

That too

[rough bloom]

also AM5 Ryzen CPUs do benefit from more cooling because of their boosting behavior

[rigid snow]

what are you upgrading to a 13900k?

[trim valve]

can confirm as someone who abosolutely throttles their am5 ryzen

god bless clocking down to 4.6GHz to stay alive on big workloads

[amber fractal]

As long as it isn't my GIMP and undoing a blur undoes 2 actions

[rough bloom]

if you didn't know, the newer Ryzen CPUs target 95°C under load and will just increase power and frequency until that is reached

@rigid snow meant to be a reply

[trim valve]

it always annoys me when people see their am5 cpu at 95 and start panicing wildly

[hard raptor]

Don't know yet... this is my first build... and it would be a shame if i have to keep buying new pretty AIOs for every build after this if people keep saying this build can get away with an ugly air cooler really easily

[rough bloom]

yeah, they're built for it
the behavior makes sense too, this is the best way to get optimal performance out of a CPU by default

[hard raptor]

The purpose of the AIO is literally just to look pretty

Normal people would opt for RGB for that purpose.. but my adhd and autism would just get too distracted by that

[trim valve]

:3 I solved the problem of caring by getting a case where I can't see in

also knocked out any chance of having RGB by using a tiny case so I literally couldn't fit rgb

only lights on my build are the motherboard debug lights lol

(or well I also have lights in my 3.5mm jacks but I have those off)

[hard raptor]

Yeah but you see... i want something i can look at easily, but won't distract me when i am trying to concentrate

[rigid snow]

i didn’t, interesting

[hard raptor]

Also i could leave the thing running without rainbows comming out when i try to sleep

[silver vault]

say anyone familiar with xinput?

[rigid snow]

it’s not a problem for me personally, i guess because it points away from my bed

[hard raptor]

Ah yes, the thing my gta v uses so that i can use my controllers

[rigid snow]

the transparent side panel does

[silver vault]

I want to try making a custom controller using xinput

[hard raptor]

I now constantly catch myself admiring the case and motherboard just sitting on my desk

[silver vault]

If I want to add more function say like more hall effects sensors or buttons, do I use xinput or some of it can use xinput and others recognize as other devices

[trim valve]

fwiw this is what I have

(though the gpu is now bigger, see: #programming message )

[olive sable]

mints

[silver vault]

Woooo

[trim valve]

300W gpu + 170W cpu (that somehow draws up to 190W sometimes) really does a good job at heating up my room sometimes

[olive sable]

true

170W? you mean cpu?

oh ok

[faint sandal]

my entire system draws like 800w under load

[trim valve]

very happy that nothing in this has rgb though

[rigid snow]

i have a friend who decided to build a pc, bought a $300 case (a lian li o11 dynamic xl i think) and never bought anything else. that was 2 years ago. he now too probably constantly catches himself admiring it

[tender river]

my server is powered by a phone charger

[trim valve]

[tender river]

35w

[hard raptor]

My case is just so hugeeee

And the motherboard looks sp pretty inside of it

[rigid snow]

that case is probably bigger than yours

[hard raptor]

Could be

But this is the biggest case i have seen in person

[hard raptor]

I looked it up, and it seems to be around the same size on the pictures

Wait imma look for the measurements

[bitter coral]

when you redo an action after swapping layers it will still do the action where the old layer was .

[olive sable]

i got like 370W gpu, 105W cpu, prob some extra 20W on other onboard stuff, 3x60W monitors, and max 560W speaker altho the receiver says it only pulls 95W
so a total of about 1250W if im to believe the speakers being 560W

[tender river]

that sounds normal though

[trim valve]

560W speaker

sam will be going deaf by the end of the month

[amber fractal]

hmm yes laptop 1 2 3 4 and mini pc is my setup

[hard raptor]

I looked up the measurements... mine is bigger than the one you described

Not by a lot though

[amber fractal]

I do require professional help but I refuse to get it

[bitter coral]

but im not entirely sure how to fix it other than making swapping layers an undoable thing which i don't really like.

[hard raptor]

Mine ia mainly bigger in width

[rigid snow]

i’m gonna say this again, afaik the speaker “power” is what the manufacturer guarantees the speaker will draw without distortion, so you probably want to take the receiver power draw

[olive sable]

there is nothing about this that makes sense

[bitter coral]

that or going through all the actions and changing where they need to be.

[rigid snow]

it’s probably for transients and whatever the inertia dampening property of the amp is properly called the damping factor which is what it’s called would be spread over time, nvm
short answer is capacitors

[amber fractal]

Tag an action to a layer/layers?

[rigid snow]

i would’ve done that from the beginning

but also moving layers around should probably be its own action

[amber fractal]

the suggestion was switching the selected layer as an action, not moving them which is differently an action

[bitter coral]

you mean having my actionList be per layer right?

[amber fractal]

I'd say have the action have a reference to which layer/s it is affecting.

[rigid snow]

i see, yeah give actions a targetLayer

[bitter coral]

so i guess that means its time to have my layers be its own resource/class.

[opaque wharf]

I see the problem. It is made in Indonesia

[rigid snow]

i would guess just the layer index is fine

[amber fractal]

Make it flexible for layer reordering, otherwise yep

#1 edge case that I can think of

[rigid snow]

because you can only undo/redo an action when the state is the exact same, that is if reordering layers is its own action

[amber fractal]

I think id and order is separate to undo deleted layers so yep that works.

[bitter coral]

i have that , thats whats causing the issue because the data between layers gets swapped while theindex stays the same so the action will affect the new layer instead.

[amber fractal]

I advise ids for layers

[olive sable]

the speakers downstairs are louder eventho they're rated for less power at 5 x 80 Watts + 1 x 120 Watts, but im geussing LG's numbers of 560W are marketing and they actually only use 95W continously and even that gets split inetween the speakers.
so in reality this sub probably only does 50W and the other one 120W and that's why its louder

[opaque wharf]

Id everything. Including the pixel

[amber fractal]

catching someone in 4k will take forever tho

[rigid snow]

all layer set manipulations should be its own action, otherwise i don’t see it breaking. selecting layers does not reorder them

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, the best way to rate any electronic device is to just look at their power supply rating. Ain't no way they can break thermodynamics

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

You do not use CSPRNG to generate the ID

nanoid is fast

[olive sable]

so my total system usage is 800W or so then

[bitter coral]

they have names so i guess i could add a get_index_from_name function and store the layer names instead of the index. that would probably work until someone decides to have duplicate names in their drawing.

[amber fractal]

I think the issue is that the only ref to a layer's existance is the layer position. So something seperate should stop it from redirecting.

[steel mesa]

more like 600

most of the things don't pull that much of a wattage

[rigid snow]

sha512 unix millis

[steel mesa]

what are your speakers

[olive sable]

thats peak usage, if we're talkign normal usage its more like 300W probably with half of that being my gpu

[bitter coral]

anyways i should probably sleep first as its 4:37 am and this keyboard is probably getting low.

[olive sable]

LG HB965DF, but with diffrent speakers on the L and R channels cuz they needed to fit on my desk

[opaque wharf]

If the CPU is fast enough, the SHA512 may be done before the next unix ms tick

[steel mesa]

are they receiving power directly from the computer or plugged in externally

[amber fractal]

or renaming is also an issue. I'd bite the bullet and add a seperate system.

[olive sable]

pc is connected via optical, the receiver is in the wall

[steel mesa]

so that already throws off your calculations since it pulls no power from the computer directly

only the optical gets the signals

[olive sable]

im just talking power usage, not specificaly my psu

[bitter coral]

you cant rename layers

[steel mesa]

oh

[rigid snow]

he’s calculating the total setup power though

[amber fractal]

Surely

[olive sable]

i was wondering how much power im wasting by spending every second im awake on my pc

the answer is way too much

[steel mesa]

the day your speakers go above 300w is the day you're gonna get a noise complaint

[pliant inlet]

Hello

[opaque wharf]

If you're not stress testing it too much, it's usually not that much

[amber fractal]

Time to get 300w speakers and point them out the window

they do it to me all the time while I'm sleeping

[opaque wharf]

This is why I use a laptop with cutoff charging percentage. It will never draw more than 65W lmao

[rigid snow]

not even, i have monitor bookshelves that are 125w peak, i NEVER EVER went max volume because my furniture starts falling apart at ~70%

[steel mesa]

lmao

[opaque wharf]

Iggly, why you not js anymore?

[steel mesa]

i just... run my computer
it adds like 5 euros to my electrical bill at the end of the month

[amber fractal]

Tbh I was always planning on removing after the game jam.

Didn't realize quite a few others would join

[olive sable]

my house has an extended part in the back that isnt directly connected to any neighbours, we have our 5.1 dolby atmos 4k 3D tv retro ps1,2,3,4,5 + xbox 360/one + nintende gamecube/n64/switch + sega master system II disco couch co-op game roomthere

[steel mesa]

its crazy but i run a 500w psu with a 7900xt and a Ryzen 7 7700X

[opaque wharf]

Ye, even if you regularly use 750W PC to it's full potential for 10+ hours, that's like what? 750Wh / day, 0.75 KWh then. 30 days it come out to 22.5 KWh

[steel mesa]

yeah sure 750w

[amber fractal]

new ext time

[opaque wharf]

Off by 1 order of magnitude again lmao

Well, pinpoint accuracy for astrophysicist anyway, so good enough

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

hmmm

[rigid snow]

are you sqlite or something else

[steel mesa]

a database of dumb decisions

I'd cosplay as that too

oh wait

[amber fractal]

sqlite is the only one I know a bit of

[olive sable]

awa

[amber fractal]

so I guess sqlite

[opaque wharf]

Then use the proper extension

[rigid snow]

too long, vetoing

[opaque wharf]

Sam, why tf did you become VanMawa now?

[trim valve]

sqlite://Iggly.db

[olive sable]

awa

[opaque wharf]

But the extension!

[olive sable]

there is no need for cpp files after compilation

[opaque wharf]

You can still have .o then

[amber fractal]

hblang ext

[olive sable]

.o is incomplete

[rigid snow]

sqlite://./Iggly.sqlite3

horrible

[steel mesa]

just become .raw

(indirectly telling you to become useless)

[opaque wharf]

But that way you'll know you're dealing with sqlite3 instead of sqlite < 3

[opaque wharf]

.so then

Or .dll

[amber fractal]

I was temping to do .raw because I use them often. But people running queries on me is more funny

[trim valve]

so true, debugging isn't real

[olive sable]

i really should try hblang sometime but i fear konii will execute me for using Allman

[tender river]

actually the formatter will execute you

[olive sable]

why would i use a formatter?

[tender river]

it autoformats on compilation

[rigid snow]

.dylib

[olive sable]

first thing im gonna do is fix that bug

if i try hblang

[opaque wharf]

We do not use .dylib in #programming

[rigid snow]

i do

[opaque wharf]

mv /**/*.dylib /**/*.so

[rigid snow]

macos 27 leaked

[opaque wharf]

We have elf format. Why no dwarf

[tender river]

there is dwarf

its used for debug info

[rigid snow]

what does dwarf stand for

[tender river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWARF

[faint sandal]

dwarf deez nuts

[olive sable]

i am a dwarf and i digging a hole, digey digey hole, digging the hole

[opaque wharf]

LMAO

[rigid snow]

that’s crazy

[olive sable]

actually im 6ft, konii is a dwarf

[rigid snow]

tall mf

[olive sable]

6ft isnt even that tall

[uneven pulsar]

Codes are basically the biggest debaters when it comes to none existing errors I LITERALLY GAVE YOU THE CLASS ARGUMENTS JUST DO YOUR JOB

[rigid snow]

dang i guess im a dwarf then

[olive sable]

my uncle is 6ft 11

yall just short mf

[rigid snow]

i’m taller than you

[olive sable]

how tall exactly?

preferably in cm

[opaque wharf]

centibeter

[jagged turtle]

can someone explain why we have names with file extensions

[amber fractal]

short bullying never ends

[jagged turtle]

I want to know what I'm getting into before I do it

[rigid snow]

personal info in a public discord with 100k members

[opaque wharf]

I'd define 1 beter = konii height at the epoch

[amber fractal]

I decided to do .js and the rest is history

[uneven pulsar]

Imagine being tall and HAVING a pretty short gf when i see that type of couple i cringe out

[jagged turtle]

ok

[olive sable]

at this point its my job to bully konii

[opaque wharf]

So from this definition, we must translate it to beconds

[jagged turtle]

done

[rigid snow]

not much taller but taller. i hope that’s enough for your curiosity

[olive sable]

yall have my full legal name already lmao

[jagged turtle]

I'm still split between .ts, .py, .astro and .mdx but idk

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Become .vue

[jagged turtle]

n o

[opaque wharf]

Also, .mdx is sin

[jagged turtle]

I don't even know how to write vue components

[opaque wharf]

As if JSX is not enough

[rigid snow]

present

[olive sable]

im probably gonna go on a short break from game engine dev to learn vulkan now. altho il probably sleep first since its already noon

[amber fractal]

I was split on .raw .db .gguf and .py

[sand escarp]

sometimes I wonder if vedal is drunk or not, like schrodinger’s drunken vedal

[opaque wharf]

My suggestion is instead to fix your sleep schedule

[jagged turtle]

waiting for someone admitting they are split between all file extensions

[worldly plank]

That short break will quickly turn into a long one.

[opaque wharf]

And stay awake until midnight

[amber fractal]

all includes a certian subtitle format

[olive sable]

that is the one thing i cant do, all my friends are online on these hours.
i will have irl friends sleep at my house this weekend, res evil 4 and 7

[trim valve]

pick .webp and see how many people you get complaining about webps to you

[jagged turtle]

also programmers how do I fix this

I tried fixing it myself but clearly I'm stupid enough not to be able to

[proxy] :x: [PROXY] 2025-07-25 19:10:29.110 ERROR: Error: [GoogleGenerativeAI Error]: Error fetching from https://generativelanguage.googleapis.com/v1beta/models/gemini-2.5-flash:generateContent: [400 Bad Request] Invalid JSON payload received. Unknown name "uniqueItems" at 'tools[0].function_declarations[24].parameters.properties[0].value': Cannot find field.

[jagged turtle]

how about you lead by example

[trim valve]

nty I like my name as it is

[jagged turtle]

lol

[trim valve]

also I dislike that .ts is two different formats

[jagged turtle]

?

[opaque wharf]

You have sent a JSON that contains illegal properties called "uniqueItems"

[jagged turtle]

yes and I've stripped it

anyways, I hate google APIs so

[opaque wharf]

Oh wait no

[trim valve]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream

[jagged turtle]

I forgot about that

worse is .ts and .mts are used infinitely more often than .cts

[amber fractal]

I sleep

[olive sable]

goodnight

me too tbh, i need some rest

[opaque wharf]

[proxy] :x: [PROXY] 2025-07-25 19:10:29.110 ERROR:
Error: [GoogleGenerativeAI Error]:

Error fetching from https://generativelanguage.googleapis.com/v1beta/models/gemini-2.5-flash:generateContent:

[400 Bad Request] Invalid JSON payload received. Unknown name "uniqueItems" at 

'tools[0].function_declarations[24].parameters.properties[0].value': 

Cannot find field.

So, fetch is failing because tools[0].function_declarations[24].parameters.properties[0].value' contains uniqueItems, but somewhere on the google end when processing the data, there is no such field named uniqueItems

[rough bloom]

does that uniqueItems property just not have a correctly set value field?
if you're passing null or something then your JSON serializer might be omitting it (or Googles JSON parser is omitting it)

[opaque wharf]

Wtf is .ex?

[rough bloom]

oh wait, Google likes to use Go, right?

[rough bloom]

Elixir

[opaque wharf]

It is something cursed isn't it?

[rough bloom]

the Go JSON parser treats empty arrays as null sometimes

[opaque wharf]

So it is

[rough bloom]

forgor if it's in the encoding or decoding

[olive sable]

hehehe

https://tenor.com/view/rwk-priest-crow-awawawawa-awa-azumanga-daioh-gif-24354610

[opaque wharf]

Why Vulkan awa

[olive sable]

ussualy you have VK_EXT, or VK_KHR

but im awa

[opaque wharf]

Non standard

[olive sable]

im probably the most neurodivergent fucker in #programming

non standart is my thing

[jagged turtle]

me when go:

[tender river]

thats not what neurodivergent means

[jagged turtle]

Supposedly the Gemini API is super fucking restrictive (of course, it's the Google way after all)

So it doesn't support a ton of schema keys

[olive sable]

(I know, shhh)

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, it may as well be

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, in this case the problem is actually because uniqueItems is empty

[hard raptor]

Playing minecraft, especially the newer versions with modpacks that do more than just optimizing the game..
I mainly run into performance issues

But also with music production, but the music production issues are more just annoying rather than causing my DAW to be unusable

[jagged turtle]

google-side or me-side

[rigid snow]

just consolidate/freeze everything tbh

but also i have to have a whole damn orchestra before i even begin approaching 100%. oh yeah and you can also increase the buffer size to ungodly numbers, the l*tency is usually fine if you’re not recording. i even produce in airpods sometimes and it’s fine

i know pro audio and bluetooth should not mix but the macos audio stack makes it more than bearable

don’t mix in airpods though. big mistake

they’re great IEMs on paper but somehow the mixes are absolute dogshit

probably the dsp magic bullshit apple does

like adjusting the frequency curve based on volume and environment

[noble zodiac]

meanwhile me with my dawless setup

[safe moth]

bread

[rigid snow]

meanwhile me not being a millionaire

[noble zodiac]

it really wasnt expensive. The trick is not to buy TE stuff

[rigid snow]

i don’t even own a midi keyboard

the only midi thing i have is a launchpad i bought 11 years ago

and i barely even use it

[noble zodiac]

I have a bunch of analog stuff, very few modern midi

[rigid snow]

yeah what i’m saying is the only hardware i have is the launchpad, an audio interface and monitor speakers

and the speakers were a big hit to my wallet

[noble zodiac]

can I interest you in orca tho

[rigid snow]

what

[noble zodiac]

its a two dimensional programing language for music creation

https://100r.co/site/orca.html

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

so an obscenely overcomplicated sequencer

[noble zodiac]

well that depends on how craetive you are with it

[rigid snow]

i guess it’s cool as a gimmick

which is a good thing

[tender river]

i give up this is slow even when i directly ported the imperative algorithm to the st monad

what do you mean haskell isnt well suited for high performance code

there might be a logic error causing the slowdown though

since the rust version finds a solution in 3ms

but the haskell version just doesnt

at all

for some reason i doubt it

but 3ms ms vs not finishing at all is too large of a difference to ignore...

[opaque wharf]

Google tried to access "uniqueItems" from the object path provided and found none

[tender river]

it looks like the haskell version is rejecting a perfectly valid solution which the rust version finds early

bwa

will probably return to this code later

[jagged turtle]

🤦‍♂️ classic google

[uneven pulsar]

rust does it fast, haskell disagrees with the problem to solve

[sick owl]

The absolute state of 2 bit quantization

[tender river]

WHAT

i figured out why the rust version found the solution o quickly

[rare bramble]

inb4 found wrong solution

[tender river]

i think so

[rare bramble]

🐥 🚬

[tender river]

ok this is actually a good argument for haskell

[opaque wharf]

[tender river]

i cursed it to eternity while working on this but it let me find a bug in the rust impl

this is a bit anticlimactic

i expected a sweet victory where i find the bug and make the haskell program fast

[opaque wharf]

You're not an anime MC chay

[desert plaza]

only 10 binutes left of day 0

[opaque wharf]

Oh damn, you're right

Btw, I think I've come up with a good definition for the beter. 1 beter = konii height at the epoch

Or it could also be Sam height as he is the lord here

[desert plaza]

[opaque wharf]

What was his height again? 180cm? Pretty good definition if I do say so myself

[desert plaza]

1 meter = 1.8 beter mhm

[rigid snow]

i think the other way around

[opaque wharf]

Yes, 1 beter = 1.8m

[desert plaza]

oh wait, you're right

[opaque wharf]

We should stream the moment of day changing in bime

[rigid snow]

average 1B-q2 model (the prompt won't help, it's overfitted on synthetic assistant slop)

can we, like, as a society, stop pretraining on assistant chats

but i guess it spitting out garbage that looks like a markdown article isn't much better

[small anvil]

Hey guys I've been learning how AI works at its core and I actually want to jump out of a window

So much math

[rigid snow]

my implementation of Bime does not support anything before the epoch

[small anvil]

Make it support January 1st, 0001

[rigid snow]

it would probably if i make it work with negative numbers, how many nanoseconds since that?

[small anvil]

I am not entirely sure, I searched it up and didnt get any useful answers

The search engine thought I typed Jan 1st, 2001

[dapper kernel]

If Vedal hasn’t yet jumped out of a window u can survive this

Make it support 1st January 2000

[uneven pulsar]

did i biss it

[desert plaza]

no, you didn't biss it, it still day 0

only 4 binutes left

[opaque wharf]

I told you we should livestream it

[desert plaza]

live stream to where

[opaque wharf]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/574720535888396292

[hard raptor]

In ableton it is only stable if i set the buffer size to 5012, but if i have to constantly freeze and unfreeze everything that is just annoying and time consuming, and that kinda takes me out of the vibe, so that causes my producers block atm

[desert plaza]

[rigid snow]

SET IT TO WHAT

[rigid snow]

stable at 5k?? at what sample rate and bit depth??????

[hard raptor]

You see

When i tell you my laptop is dogshit

I mean it

[rigid snow]

44100 16bit?

that's fucking crazy

i engineer (record people) at 32 buffer size

[hard raptor]

Do you now get why i want to build that pc in the first case?

[rigid snow]

is your laptop from the windows vista era

like i can't think of any other reason

[hard raptor]

Did the core i5-3320M come from that era?

That's the only meaningful thing i can give

[rigid snow]

came out right before windows 8

so not too far off

[hard raptor]

Alr

[hard raptor]

Actually, then i am surprised it runs the newest minecraft versions as well as it does then

[desert plaza]

10 beconds left of day 0

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-worried-anxious-scared-gif-15390014069896577777

[opaque wharf]

I am livestreaming it

6 Beconds left

[sage crag]

getting close to FFFF

[opaque wharf]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/574720535888396292

3 Beconds

2 Beconds

1 Beconds

1 DAY!!!!

[rigid snow]

yoo

[sage crag]

day is over

[desert plaza]

LET'S GO

[rigid snow]

i was here

[desert plaza]

HAPPY DAY 1

[sage crag]

1 day anniversary of random discord message

[rigid snow]

it's not random

[opaque wharf]

Not just random, it is an epoch of a whole new standard system of measurement

The Betric System

[sage crag]

[desert plaza]

The Betric System of Units

[tender river]

yippie

[rigid snow]

very hype vc btw

[sage crag]

(3 people)

[opaque wharf]

We use the VC as intended

[desert plaza]

[rigid snow]

(no one has unmuted at any point)

[opaque wharf]

I'm going to confuse people at the #voice-text

[opaque wharf]

Btw, why does the mobile didn't show the day counter?

[rigid snow]

it does. i guess screen too short

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, it does, I just checked lmao

[rigid snow]

i can see you checking no need to tell me you have

[opaque wharf]

Hey, that's not fair. I can't see your screen alright

[rigid snow]

i'm not screensharing but good bait

i considered it

[sage crag]

gdpr requires you to forget my ip

[opaque wharf]

I only screen shared a private firefox window anyway

[rigid snow]

i specifically put it on github pages and not on a domain so that isn't my problem and you know i don't grab ips

i was referring to the screenshaee

why are we still in vc btw

[sage crag]

ip grabber https://mlntcandy.github.io/bime/

[opaque wharf]

I don't know tbh

[rigid snow]

i wish i was in a different kind of vc

but i'm here

[desert plaza]

idk

[rigid snow]

(venture capital)

[opaque wharf]

Man, #programming needs to stream more of cursed coding session

[rigid snow]

*90% is prompting cursor*

[sage crag]

i dont need people to know how long it takes me to do basic tasks

[rigid snow]

THIS IS SO REAL

[opaque wharf]

LMAO

Same

80% of the video time is just blinking cursor

[sage crag]

if i ever program on stream you will only see the vignere ciphered code

[rigid snow]

80% is blinking cursor, 20% is prompting cursor

[tender river]

haskell sat solver code

[opaque wharf]

Chay, stream your coding session

[tender river]

does web discord even support streaming

[opaque wharf]

I am using web discord

[sage crag]

yes

barely

[opaque wharf]

God bless WebRTC

[sage crag]

more stable than the electron client on linux somehow

[opaque wharf]

Haskell coding session

[tender river]

i'm done gaslighting myself

[opaque wharf]

But also, what is up with this naming

[tender river]

i no longer believe i can make it fast

that is, after realizing the rust version is only fast because it is wrong

[sage crag]

(is literal sat solver)

[tender river]

my rust sat solver is blazingly fast

[opaque wharf]

and wrong?

[tender river]

and memory safe

[sage crag]

wrong 100x times faster than haskell impl

[tender river]

i actually spent 3 days trying to figure out why haskell takes so long and optimize every little thing

[sage crag]

profiler bwabwabwa

[tender river]

i did use a profiler but the problem was a logic error, and not even in the haskell code but in the code i'm comparing it against

[rigid snow]

i'd ride this rollercoaster, seems like a fun time

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm

[sage crag]

i can also draw vedal

[rigid snow]

computed

[desert plaza]

[opaque wharf]

Dang, my router is acting up again lmao

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/router-rettrew-gif-21434157

[rigid snow]

something something why

[tender river]

frick you haskell

i introduced the bug in the haskell solver

now its fast

[opaque wharf]

Eh, no one is using vc currently anyway so why not

[rigid snow]

management happy

[opaque wharf]

So the bug is what makes it faster

[tender river]

and wrong

[rigid snow]

who cares

[opaque wharf]

But you're looking for faster performance

[opaque sigil]

Worth it

[opaque wharf]

Toast, you missed the 1 day change of the bime system

[opaque sigil]

Wait what

[desert plaza]

it has been over 16 bours since epoch

you missed it

[opaque sigil]

Oh

[opaque wharf]

We have a VC party even. Check out the #voice-text

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

surely it's the bepoch

[desert plaza]

is it

[rigid snow]

the epoch of the era, the unix epoch, the bepoch

[opaque wharf]

Alright, imma end the VC guys. I have to go somewhere

[rigid snow]

and there's discord that uses 2015-01-01 in their snowflake implementation

just because

[desert plaza]

great stream, 10/10 would bime again

[tender river]

i kinda wish normal time was hexadecimal now FFFF is so much more straightforward than 23:59:59 and conveys the (essentially) same amount information

but thats already a thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal_time

[sage crag]

the resolution is worse by 1.318x

[rigid snow]

seconds are more precise than sibiseconds though

[rigid snow]

yeah

[tender river]

yeah thats why i said essentially

[sage crag]

however 1/3 of a second is pretty small max error

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

1 sibisecond

[tender river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonal_system_(Nystrom)

they were much more dedicated

16 months

[sage crag]

16 months of how many days

[tender river]

22 and 23 probably

[sage crag]

22 days would be the best

23 would overshoot

[opaque wharf]

Lmao

[tender river]

it cant be worse than the current month system

[opaque wharf]

The whole betric system turns out isn't new

[tender river]

just stealing days from february at will

[opaque wharf]

Hey, we give it back when we feel nice okay

[rigid snow]

ikr

[sage crag]

turns out base 16 is pretty old

[desert plaza]

wait did we accidentally reinvent hexadecimal time?

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but never in my life I though it would be used somewhere already. I know about base-12 but that's it

[rigid snow]

i'm still mad we're calling it betric and not xetric

[sage crag]

i think it was very much on purpose

[tender river]

we should use sexagesimal surely thats new and never used before

[sage crag]

[tender river]

imagine

so

a minute would have 60 seconds

for base 60

[sage crag]

what

no way

[tender river]

we could also make an hour have 60 minutes

for consistency

[sage crag]

this is crazy

[rigid snow]

60 days in a week, 60 weeks in a month, 60 months in a year...

[desert plaza]

here we fukin go again

[sage crag]

i think this year is a bit longer than the current one

a small bit

[rigid snow]

not if you make a day last a small bit shorter

[opaque wharf]

1 sisecond = ???

[sage crag]

if its the same length then 1 year in this system is 591 years in the current system

[opaque wharf]

[desert plaza]

[opaque wharf]

We have animal year, like dog year and what not

[sage crag]

suddenly being 1 is pretty important

[opaque wharf]

Maybe it is AI year

[rigid snow]

make a day last 1/539 times as long as it does

that’s a crazy typo, i’m not editing

[sage crag]

a day is now 160 seconds long

146 if you use the correct number

[hard raptor]

Hiii

[sage crag]

h

[rigid snow]

i wasn’t even close

[hard raptor]

b

[sage crag]

so true

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

so brave

[rigid snow]

interesting how rare c# is here compared to how widely used it is

[tender river]

there used to be a c# user

microsoft got him

[rigid snow]

"a c# user" a singular one

[tender river]

i tried c# for writing neuro integration and it motivated me to implement neuro integration in f#

[rigid snow]

it's not THAT bad...

[sage crag]

c# is a gateway language

[tender river]

vb.net

[rigid snow]

best lang fr

[trim valve]

vb.net is certainly a language

[sage crag]

i should write a scratch runtime in hblang

[tender river]

write a desmos in hblang

[sage crag]

ah it needs json

nevermind

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

i remember i made totally not a ripoff of tetris in microsoft excel macros

i do not know where the file is though

that was like 8 years ago

[sage crag]

isnt it more cursed that scratch stores its games entirely as json

[tender river]

i think it kinda makes sense

[sage crag]

you mean an easy to adjust and also manually edit and parse format is a good choice

what about my flat binaries

[tender river]

you're so right scratch should've compiled everything to wasm and decompiled it back for editing

[sage crag]

yesh

in fact compile to llvm IR and then make the user compile it themselves

[tender river]

make these kids deal with REd code

[rigid snow]

i thought of making a visual programming language some time ago because i like unreal engine blueprints way too much, and actually thought xml was a good choice for storing scripts

[sage crag]

xml

[tender river]

xml is a human-readable, machine-unreadable language

[rigid snow]

xml is object oriented json

[tender river]

xml is a natural language

[sage crag]

xml is a language

[rigid snow]

ok fuck you i have bad internet and was waiting very patiently for "the emoji" to load

[sage crag]

which is funny because natural and markup are slightly conflicting design choices

[tender river]

i looked at kicad files of the 8khz tablet and turns out they use sexprs

better than xml

honestly my biggest issue with xml is attributes and child objects existing at the same time

imo its better for only one to exist

[rigid snow]

xml is a extensible markup language

[opaque wharf]

Apparently a bunch of parentheses got automodded

[rigid snow]

(())((()()( automod this

[opaque wharf]

(I (was (going (to (make (this))))))

[olive sable]

I am awake

[rigid snow]

dll

[opaque wharf]

You missed the day change in betric bime

[opaque wharf]

And it should be child object

[rigid snow]

that's exactly why i thought it would be a good fit

[olive sable]

Dont care

[tender river]

i didnt look into it much but anyway https://github.com/pompyboard/pompyboard/blob/master/pcb/pompyboard.kicad_sch

[sage crag]

stupid generated files

look at the git diffs

[tender river]

yeah

+100k -100k

average small change

[sage crag]

"switch two 2 layers" +100k -100k

"use basic rather than extended" +100k -100k

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

I'd suggest they use pinion or one pcbdraw to render the board if they wanted to have fancy docs

[rigid snow]

go make an issue or a gh discussion post

[sage crag]

there is discussion about microchip stuff that i have vague knowledge of

[opaque wharf]

Nah, I'm on mobile now

[sage crag]

like TMR sensors vs hall effect sensors

[opaque wharf]

You mentioning this just tempt me to open my laptop again

So I did

[sage crag]

awa

[tender river]

i'm too tired to even think about what tmr sensors are

[sage crag]

tunneling magnetoresistance

[opaque wharf]

The one on spinning disc

[tender river]

tomorrow sensors

they detect tomorrow

[opaque wharf]

So doomsday sensor

[sage crag]

really sensitive magnetic sensors but their effective range is pretty low

[opaque wharf]

Also I don't think it is suitable for HID

[sage crag]

it is usable

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[tender river]

both are used in joysticks apparently

[sage crag]

latency, accuracy, noise floor

[opaque wharf]

Well, hall effect have come a long way too

[olive sable]

If (time.hour == 0 && time.min == 0)

[sage crag]

tmr sensors are relatively new and quite expensive compared to hall sensors

[opaque wharf]

Huh? I thought TMR is used in spinning disc?

[tender river]

a random website said tmr can go up to 20khz so it must be true

[sage crag]

tmr sensors can go up to Mhz range

but so can hall sensors so

bwa

[opaque wharf]

Did I mistaken TMR for something else again

[olive sable]

Hall-effect sensors measure the distance between a magnet and the sensor, converting that into a signal, while TMR sensors detect changes in the magnetic field itself.

[tender river]

the site said that hall effect is "typically capped at 1khz" that's it i'm never buying a hall effect joystick again i'm 100% convinced they're horrible

[sage crag]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/multidimension/TMR2083/18734062
uncommon type of chip

[opaque wharf]

Technically, hall effect is something that happens to current affected by magnetic field

[olive sable]

Is the 1khz pulling rate really the deciding factor for you?

[tender river]

no actually my deciding factor is that i dont need a joystick

[olive sable]

Ah

Fair enough

[tender river]

also the site is stupid

[olive sable]

Bouncy castle in the car

[sage crag]

newmoji

[olive sable]

?

[opaque wharf]

[sick owl]

We may be cooked chat

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/preventing-woke-ai-in-the-federal-government/

(a) Truth-seeking. LLMs shall be truthful in responding to user prompts seeking factual information or analysis. LLMs shall prioritize historical accuracy, scientific inquiry, and objectivity, and shall acknowledge uncertainty where reliable information is incomplete or contradictory.

[sick owl]

Basically every LLM fundamentally contravenes this clause

[opaque wharf]

Mhmm, that is a board

[sage crag]

its morbidly funny to see this terminology used by the us federal govt, you would think they would at least pretend to be a serious body

[tender river]

who let a twitter user into the white house

[olive sable]

How tf are we supposed to make that jappen? We all know an llm will eventualy hallucinate.

[sage crag]

its not how the latest board looks atm though

[olive sable]

Thank god that law doesnt affect me

[sage crag]

presumably the voters

[sage crag]

looks less cursed currently

[opaque wharf]

I don't see any other branches tho

[sage crag]

fork

[opaque wharf]

Why can't contributor just work on the repo

[sage crag]

direct repo access is usually a pretty bad idea in public projects

awa

pull requests are convenient

[sick owl]

Magic I guess

[opaque wharf]

I can only find this fork

And it still use the same layout

[sage crag]

must not be pushed

[opaque wharf]

Also github hates me

[sage crag]

active* design discussion takes place whether or not the design is online yet

would you look at the bime

i should be playing osu

[tender river]

oshu game

oh no a mosquito

[opaque wharf]

The current bime is 1777

Hmm, I'm hungry. What to eat chat?

[tender river]

sleep

[opaque wharf]

It is end of month, so it is on the menu

[rigid snow]

i barely have ANY crackling, this is on an M1 (the apple cpu from 2020 which was ok for its time)
there are THREE serum 2 patches that are really heavy, yes no unison on any of them but 3 oscillators on all of them with a lot of processing, there are even 2 convolvers (!) on one of them

even my desktop can't do this

4ms is crazy

[opaque wharf]

That UI looks like something an EE would use

[rigid snow]

ableton ui

everyone clowns on it but i like it

[opaque wharf]

My only knowledge of a music creation app is FLStudio

And maybe MuseScore

[rigid snow]

well there's your point of reference

[hard raptor]

Seems like a pretty light serum setup if you ask me

[rigid snow]

it is a light-ish project, but for 32 samples??

[hard raptor]

Of course i don't know whay your processing looks like

[rigid snow]

basically everything is ableton stock

[rigid snow]

and keep in mind serum 2 is noticeably worse perf wise than serum 1 even on the same patches

[sage crag]

oshu

[hard raptor]

Wait.. serum 2 can load serum 1 patches?

HOW?

[rigid snow]

yes?

[hard raptor]

I need this wisdom

It doesn't detect my serum 1 patches

[rigid snow]

what do you mean... it's the #1 advertised feature

[hard raptor]

.

[rigid snow]

it automatically gave me a "Serum 1 Presets" folder

[hard raptor]

Maybe i should look for that then

[rigid snow]

it should literally be here, i just never had serum 1 on my laptop

mods music prod channel it's time

[hard raptor]

I agree

[rigid snow]

every time i say this someone agrees

[hard raptor]

Wait no

[rigid snow]

that's crazy

[hard raptor]

Wasn't it that music was just considered art?

[rigid snow]

#artist-alley is a great place for music production talk

[hard raptor]

But music can also be a bit technic

So i would argue it can also be talked about here

[rigid snow]

was music ever not considered as such

[opaque wharf]

Music made by the floppotron-3000

[tender river]

write music in haskell

[hard raptor]

Oh god

[tender river]

https://tidalcycles.org/

[opaque wharf]

Manually generating the sine and it's harmonic to create the desired timbre sounds fun

[hard raptor]

Why not go full primeagen mode and write a dsl to control playwright to control a js library in the browser to make music

[opaque wharf]

WebAudio has nodelet

[rigid snow]

good luck getting anything that doesn't sound like a sine with harmonics

manually generate a sine with harmonics and that's your song

the opposite of fourier transform

[opaque wharf]

Or generate sine and feed it to bldc

[rigid snow]

wait

huh what a novel concept!

[rigid snow]

the thought that i should make a web DAW has bothered me for YEARS

[hard raptor]

Same

[opaque wharf]

Will there be a bingo

[rigid snow]

ew no, it's fine if i think about webdev but it's gross when others do...

[olive sable]

i just had the biggest hamburger of my life, it was as wide as my phone is long.

[hard raptor]

Bro went to murica?

[olive sable]

nope

[opaque wharf]

The unit shall be known as decibeter

[olive sable]

15cm = decibeter?

[opaque wharf]

Huh, not that bad then

[hard raptor]

That's big to you?

[opaque wharf]

Because I was thinking about defining 1 beter as either 1 konii tall at the epoch or one Lord SamVanMaele, first of his name tall at the epoch

[olive sable]

15cm wide, 15cm tall, thats enormous

thats 6" in american units i think

[hard raptor]

Average big tasty at mcdonalds

[olive sable]

i have worked at mcdonalds, they're not that big

[hard raptor]

Belgian mcdonalds must be worse than dutch mcdonalds then

[opaque wharf]

Do you want to bathe in boiling oil after like evil?

[hard raptor]

Just like the roads

[olive sable]

at least 30% of our taxes dont go to roads

[hard raptor]

That's probably the reason why they so bad

[opaque wharf]

Toast will come and have the high ground if y'all talk about roads

[olive sable]

our goverment needs that 30% to give to probably no politics here

swiftly moving on

[rigid snow]

rool tree

[olive sable]

a big mac has a diameter of lik 8cm at most

[hard raptor]

Big mac is not big tasty just fyi

Big mac is tiny

[opaque wharf]

Tiny mac then

[olive sable]

wt is a big tasty then?

[hard raptor]

Hold on

[olive sable]

i thought you were just being quirky

[opaque wharf]

Humongous mac

[hard raptor]

It haz bacon

[rigid snow]

no it's a thing in many countries

but not all of them for some reason

[olive sable]

i never made one of those

i dont think it was even on the menu

[south needle]

it does not haz bacon if you eat the becon of it

[hard raptor]

Like i said, belgian mcdonalds worse than dutch mcdonalds

[olive sable]

i highly doubt the dutch mcdonalds is that much better

[hard raptor]

It comes out of the package with bacon on it, smh

[hard raptor]

Probably not tbh

It's all junkfood anyways

[south needle]

and when it came with hair on it, active users would still say its a feature not a bug

[olive sable]

working there was a 2/10. i dont know arabic so it was hard to communicate with the coworkers

[opaque wharf]

Btw, my hunger issue is not solved. Any food recommendations?

[hard raptor]

I don't want to say it, but....

[olive sable]

get food

[rigid snow]

burger king

[south needle]

you could quit your job or whatever and just go fishing in alaska

[hard raptor]

Borgir king is also kinda good tbh

[opaque wharf]

Kurger Bing. I don't feel like eating junk food for now

[rigid snow]

only outside of the us is what i’ve heard

same with mcdonald’s

weird

[hard raptor]

Honestly... i kinda wanna cook, so if hypothetically we were close to eachother... i would not have a problem with making pasta for you

[opaque wharf]

Hmm, pasta sounds good. I'll cook just that

Kurger Bing

[olive sable]

indonesia might be a small distance away from the netherlands

[opaque wharf]

Oh no, not the dutch again

[hard raptor]

I bet mine would still be better, cuz i worked as a chef for a lil while, had the proper training and everything

[olive sable]

yall have some history toghether ye

[hard raptor]

It used to be owned by the netherlands...

[olive sable]

i know

[hard raptor]

Not our proudest moment tbh

[olive sable]

until ww1 iirc

[hard raptor]

Nope.. until mid ww2

[olive sable]

ah wrong ww

[hard raptor]

And then we reclaimed it again

Until the end of the cold war

[opaque wharf]

I don't really know what is proper tbh. But I usually just cook it with butter and garlic for seasoning

[hard raptor]

But between mid ww2 and end ww2 japan had it

[hard raptor]

I have the proper italian cooking training

[opaque wharf]

Nice

[hard raptor]

But tbh.. as long as you enjoy it i would argue it is proper

[olive sable]

if i didnt just eat and i had a drivers license and i had a car and maybe enough energy to go to the netherlands i would

[hard raptor]

Cuz that is what food is about anyways

[olive sable]

while its not the most reccomended thing, it would be funny to show up at a random discord person's door for pasta

[opaque wharf]

You have 6 different #programming dweller address

[olive sable]

ye but all of the people i know the adresses of live too far

canada, us, finland, switserland

too far

[hard raptor]

Yeah you really shouldn't.. it's better to meet up in a quiet park, and sit with your back against the other, and the other just silently slides you a plate of pasta and walks away

[olive sable]

what the fuck

thats more like a drug deal

[rigid snow]

why do you possess that information then

[opaque wharf]

How would you know?

[hard raptor]

Yeah, but it's pasta

[olive sable]

rule 3

[hard raptor]

Belgium is under the netherlands, specifically under the province of Noord-Brabant

[olive sable]

we have a litle place called antwerp

you can google the rest

[hard raptor]

Iykyk

[opaque wharf]

Imma be honest, I don't remember the rules here

[olive sable]

they just keep giving me their adresses. i have that dox aura

[opaque wharf]

I should give it a re read ye

[hard raptor]

Oh yeh, forgor that was a thing