programming

[olive sable]

it seems like the way they implemetned gsync is really poor

[nocturne olive]

Both of my GPUs are under 30W while in fairly normal use, with two monitors connected to the main GPU, one of which is high res and refresh rate

[olive sable]

turnign on g-sync apparently forces the memory clock to over 9000mhz

im geussing they dont actually do any optemizations

if nothing changed you dont need to rerender anything

[nocturne olive]

Which is probably actually a lot less and the MHz number is just how many transfers happen rather than actual frequency, though I'm still not sure where the numbers come from

[olive sable]

according to toast it counts all the frequencies toghether of all the chips

[opaque sigil]

that was a lie

[olive sable]

ah

what was it you said?

[opaque sigil]

as far as i can tell it's mostly due to PAM4 allowing you to send multiple bits at a time + ddr

[olive sable]

wait i have 12 memory chips even

[opaque sigil]

gpu memory is complicated i don't quite know that much about how it actually works on a hardware level tbf, go ping quack if you want an actual answer

as far as i'm concerned smart people managed to figure out how to make things go brr

[olive sable]

wait, i have variable refreshratew apparently

how do i turn that on in wondows?

[opaque sigil]

i think that's usually a setting on the monitor itself?

could be wrong

or it's tied to gsync idk

[olive sable]

it should be on in the monitor but it isnt set in widows i think

found it

this is new

from the looks of it that didnt actually save much performance

[olive sable]

clang gave me some type of ai autocomplete now

its pretty usefull sometimes

other times it fucks some stuff up

also some gl functions are blue now

my texture broke

it gave up on that red square i guess?

[amber fractal]

I mean I don't think the red was intended and overflowed

[olive sable]

im using this perlin noise texture

and it looks like its using it 3x?

[amber fractal]

Yeah, looks like that red square is the error then nuked afterwards. Especially because noise textures are monochrome

At least when not combined with other textures

[olive sable]

the base texture is 128x128, and this frambuffer is also 128x128. so im wondering why its tiling the texture???

[amber fractal]

doubting any MSAA that hasn't been added yet, that'd be 2 or 4

[olive sable]

ohhh, its 8 bits per pixel

the actual image is monochrome

my code doesnt handle that

i only got a
GLint format = (bitsPerPixel == 32) ? GL_RGBA : GL_RGB;

lemme just pass it to the shader in the red channel

looks pretty ominous but its correct now

[hoary lion]

hmmm

actually don't know how should I convert text to phonemes

[sage crag]

this is the background from the evil skeleton

[olive sable]

idk what you're refering to

[wise pond]

I have begun writing a custom frontend for my local Koboldcpp installation, I have even implemented almost realtime vision that gets submitted along with the user input.

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-there-i-am-spongebob-spongebob-commerical-gif-22318667

[desert plaza]

that's a surprisingly specific and accurate reaction gif

[wise pond]

lol

[olive sable]

pure coincidence

[desert plaza]

was it not on purpose

[olive sable]

no

[wise pond]

What are u converting the phonemes for?

[olive sable]

there was no sarcasm intended in that statement nor this one

[desert plaza]

damn that's crazy

anyways, improved file size

-7 bytes 😎

[amber fractal]

Small file size and nix don't mix well

at least not as a general case

[desert plaza]

i just happen to be on nix

wdym nix don't like small file sizes

of executables?

[amber fractal]

Just thinking how some people don't slim down on files in /nix very much depends on the person

[desert plaza]

fat files smh my head

[amber fractal]

me with mutipule copys of my WM

[desert plaza]

i write machine code by hand so i can have the smallest executable in all the land

[amber fractal]

I should consider slimming

[olive sable]

when floor() is more expensive then casting twice

rn im consistently at 3200fps

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

i want to push more distance tho

lemme try some more things

[opaque sigil]

welp, 2 hours of working on my nix flake down the drain because i forgot to push and replaced the image with yday's cause i accidentally deleted ~/.local

Something somewhere was caching an old path to the oh-my-posh binary

[ornate patio]

This is quite fascinating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKcWu1l_UNw

[tender river]

how do you accidentally delete ~/.local

[olive sable]

i love how it still gets 2500 fps when you put the camer in the gras and look to -Z, but you get 4500fp if you do the same and look at +Z

overdraw my beloved

[amber fractal]

Speaking on WM, I'm seeing if it is worth switching

[opaque sigil]

look, i meant to run l .local to see if there was anything cached i could yeet but for some reason i typed rm -rf .local
didn't help that every time i sent anything zsh threw 2 errors at me i guess

[amber fractal]

o7

[hoary lion]

This is to separate phoneme level information with other acoustic features for my speech tokenizer

[sage crag]

curses

propeller hat

[olive sable]

thanks chatgpt

[amber fractal]

wha?

[olive sable]

the context is performance, i think it meant to use the idiom of squeezing every last drop or something

[opaque sigil]

time to gc again and have it break

[desert plaza]

haha, i cannot be beat

[sage crag]

you beat compiler with hand-rolled binary, good job

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kaai-yuki-vocaloid-plush-propeller-hat-gif-1900417603870183329

[opaque sigil]

_omp_preexec:5: no such file or directory: /nix/store/n0hjhmf90j2ksaw7kmwimr2h8j433wpw-oh-my-
_omp_get_prompt:3: no such file or directory: /nix/store/n0hjhmf90j2ksaw7kmwimr2h8j433wpw-oh-my-posh-26.8.0/bin/oh-my-posh

it's back

i wonder why it's even complaining, oh-my-posh didn't change at all

it's till at the same place it was at before

[olive sable]

my main goal is to beat draw order into submission now

[desert plaza]

i did this to your elf file, nicely formatted with comments explaining the instruction encodings

[sage crag]

do you want to see the actual disasm

[olive sable]

would it be possible to sort a list of 16384 vec2's based on their distance to the camera every single frame???
doesnt seem quite possible does it?

[desert plaza]

sure

[sage crag]

_start:
    sub rsp, 0x08
    lea rsi, [0x0000000000000007]
    mov rdx, 0x0D
    mov rax, 0x01
    mov rdi, 0x01
    syscall
    mov rax, 0x3C
    xor rdi, rdi
    syscall

[olive sable]

its about the same

[desert plaza]

yeah, pretty close

[olive sable]

[0x0000000000000007] instead of 0x23

[desert plaza]

true, i haven't fully grasped the lea instruction yet

it says 7, but the displacement value says 0x23

[olive sable]

if i dont square root, which would save performance, it would still be 2 squares and then sort based of those...

16384 times

ye i dont think thats gonna happen each frame

[opaque sigil]

i have a working prompt again

turns out it was oh-my-posh's own cache all along

this happens every time it updates but that's so infrequent i always forget how to resolve it

[olive sable]

toast you're a smart dude, could you sort a list of 16k vec2's based on distance in less than a ms?

[opaque sigil]

no

[olive sable]

aight

imma need to find a smarter aproach

[tender river]

prompt: you are powershell with oh-my-posh

[hoary lion]

oh shit

espeak G2P is weird

[sage crag]

umazing

[olive sable]

motherfucker i just want -1 or 1, not 0

[hoary lion]

??

is that gpt response or something

[olive sable]

glsl function

no

im looking at the glsl docs

[hoary lion]

I accidentally read sign as sigh and thought what in the tsundere language is this

[sage crag]

z

[olive sable]

z as in you're going to bed?

[sage crag]

no

z as in z

[olive sable]

[hoary lion]

real sherlock behavior

[olive sable]

you're 97 konii, you shouldnt be up this late

the elderly need to go to bed early

[hoary lion]

not even unc at this point

fossil

[olive sable]

basicly in the procces of composting already

[sage crag]

copysignf

[olive sable]

i wish glsl had that

[sage crag]

copysign

[olive sable]

doesnt exist as far as i can tell

you just get sign()

which returns 0 if the input is 0 for some reason

[hoary lion]

can't you just make it

[olive sable]

i thought we agreed that signed 0's were a thing?

[hoary lion]

or is it not possible

[trim valve]

sign(x) | 1

[olive sable]

wdym cant you just make it?

[olive sable]

sure

[trim valve]

if it returns an int

if it's a float good luck

[olive sable]

nah its a float...

sign(x) | 1.0???

[trim valve]

unlikely to work

[olive sable]

this is bitwise ye?

[trim valve]

yeah

[olive sable]

lemme thonk

[trim valve]

what do you even need it for

[olive sable]

i want to see if the camera's forward vector is positive or negative so i can flip the instance grid so the draworder is front to back so i can save 2000fps on overdraw

[trim valve]

what's stopping you from doing ((x >= 0) * 2) - 1

[olive sable]

nothing

i think it should owrk at least

[trim valve]

crazy

[sage crag]

forgot a (float)

[olive sable]

besides the fact it will need to be cast to a float

[tender river]

hblang lsp update it "works" now (it does nothing but it technically is an lsp now i think)

[trim valve]

sorry I'm used to shaders implicitly casting everything into floats to piss me off

[sage crag]

poghd

when did it become 4am

i was reading

[olive sable]

? what kinda shader are you writing?

[trim valve]

idk

[sage crag]

soil

[olive sable]

those aint the type im writing thats for sure

[trim valve]

the last one I wrote was ages ago

[olive sable]

like how this autocomplete spits out absolute nonsense. this ai needs to cook for some more epochs

[sage crag]

why do you use it

[olive sable]

it wasnt on purpose

it was suddendly there when i changed to clang and i dont know how to turn it off

[tender river]

soil is weak

[sage crag]

but there is a lot of it

at least 10 tonnes

[olive sable]

are we talkign about dirt?

[tender river]

you are stronger

[sage crag]

soil is heavy

i am not heavy

i would lose in a sumo match

[tender river]

this is true

you dont have to fight fairly though

[sage crag]

how to fight soil unfairly

[hoary lion]

Dig them out

[tender river]

shovel

[olive sable]

dont fight soil

[hoary lion]

Literally

[olive sable]

fighting soil is a losing batle

[sage crag]

its not easy though

[desert plaza]

soil ur pants

[trim valve]

#programming message

cursed shader my beloved

[tender river]

depends on what is at stake in the sumo battle

[sage crag]

soil

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/soil-is-food-save-soil-mud-dirt-hello-gif-26057934

[tender river]

you can just walk away i don't think the soil is gonna be able to do anything to you then

[olive sable]

you can shovel as much soil as you want, you're just moving the opponent to another spot.
then you relaize that you're standing on soil, and you cant escape the soil

you can only flee to mars or wherever there isnt soil

[tender river]

if soil is outside the sumo ring does that mean you win

[olive sable]

hmmm

[opaque sigil]

i think that's just copilot no?

[olive sable]

i have no clue

[opaque sigil]

clangd definitely doesn't ship this so

copilot is free too now

[olive sable]

huh, i guess i somehow activated it while doing the clang stuff

[opaque sigil]

there you go

[olive sable]

i just hope they dont expect me to pay for this shit

[amber fractal]

Allowance resets

[opaque sigil]

they probably try to upsell when/if you run out

[amber fractal]

Yep

Been a bit since I've configured a new window manager. I've been happy with hyprland.

[sage crag]

cling clang

its unfair i was born as a tv because it means i cant be a magical girl

[tender river]

i happen to know a cat that can help with that

[sage crag]

not a chance

nope nope

https://tenor.com/view/kyubey-madoka-magica-quinnafred-gif-3729402980745669408

[midnight sigil]

I Canon EF28-105mm f3.5-4.5 II USM

patent stealing 101

[olive sable]

at least you got the girl part correct, i failed at both

[tender river]

you can become a witch i think there are some tv witches

[midnight sigil]

[sage crag]

at most i can become a wraith because i dont have a soul gem

[midnight sigil]

konii konii what's your specs as a tv

[tender river]

1hz

480p

[midnight sigil]

not even vector display smh

[olive sable]

to be clear i dont want to be a girl, i specifically would want to be a magical girl if possible.
im willing to sacrifice my masculinity for magic.

[amber fractal]

mhm

[sage crag]

1hz, 480p

response time 130ms

[amber fractal]

100%

[midnight sigil]

konii how do you play osu

[sage crag]

hacks

[midnight sigil]

that what the filters do

[amber fractal]

I did watch an anime with male magical girls, so there is hope

[sage crag]

yuh

[midnight sigil]

reported

[sage crag]

oh no

[olive sable]

when we watched konii play osu she claimed it was in 144p cuz of internet issues. in reality she was just hiding her wall hacks

"wall hacks" ye idk what osu hacks are i autocompleted to wallhacks for some reason

[tender river]

osu! cheats that let you see through a wall

[amber fractal]

That osu! stream was one for this history books for the wrong reasons

[sage crag]

awa

im tempted to play right now actually

i shouldnt its 4am

[olive sable]

i found it funny how everyone started muted, then all we eventually started using mics besides konii

[sage crag]

tv cant speak

[olive sable]

mine can

[amber fractal]

konii wouldn't have enough bandwidth (real)

[sage crag]

concerning

[sage crag]

im concerned you might be correct

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

at least my internet isnt as bad as chayleaf's

[olive sable]

konii you live in london

[tender river]

its fine but i wasnt at home

[amber fractal]

10mb speeds mhm

[sage crag]

london big place

[olive sable]

i would be impressed if the internet speed in london was slower than a random girl in the middle of nowhere russia

iirc saint petersburg or sometihng idk

[tender river]

no

(thats not middle of nowhere though its almost the capital)

[midnight sigil]

time to dox

[tender river]

its easy to dox me

[olive sable]

or you had a job aplication there i think, and you said it wasnt too far

[tender river]

um yeah not too far just on the other side of the country

i live in siberia

[olive sable]

hyh

welp my memory is bad then

[tender river]

i dont really hide my address i just dont mention it for no reason either

[olive sable]

no suprises there honestly

ye you really shouldnt

i wanst asking you to

it wasn't my intention to collect addresses from the #programming people to begin with but i have like 6 of them already

these aint the infinity stones

[amber fractal]

I honestly shouldn't be as open, but I got a bit of leway in terms of identifying myself even if I'm down to town.

[sage crag]

mr enigma

[olive sable]

one day i will go knocking on your window

i know where you live

[amber fractal]

Cursing american house design until you get there

[olive sable]

if i dont get shot

[amber fractal]

There hasn't been police here in awhile

[olive sable]

i wasnt talking about the police

[amber fractal]

That rental sometimes gets questionable people

[amber fractal]

Should be fine, maybe

doubt any people nearby would care

[olive sable]

aight im getting somewhat decent fps out of it now

[desert plaza]

less than 4000 frames smh

[olive sable]

that should be easily fixed by making the cpu side cleaner

rn this is split into 3 drawcalls

i just need to make it 1

do yall ever just have your headphones on but you paused the youtube video you were listening to 3 hours ago cuz you're in the zone?

[gritty dust]

pog

next video when lol

[gritty dust]

yeahh haha you just wear the headphones but with no sound for hours on end

[olive sable]

im fixing my gras more

i need that 4000+ fps

[gritty dust]

damnnn I thought 3700 was enough

[mighty thorn]

Why does the grass waving look like an instagram filter

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

Do you want mine?

I am more than willing to give you it

[gritty dust]

erm he might have mine guys

[olive sable]

why must everyone send their adresses to me

[gritty dust]

fr tho

[mighty thorn]

It’s funny

[olive sable]

this is like vedal with the stream keys

[gritty dust]

ahem... to be fair mine was an accident haha

[mighty thorn]

I have sent my full home address in a public channel before, I really don’t care

[gritty dust]

FRRR t

[olive sable]

except that im actually capable of doxing everyone now

[stray dragon]

hi craftercheese

[gritty dust]

hey

[olive sable]

i could make a list probably

[mighty thorn]

Fun fact: this actually led to a lot of stress during the incident

[olive sable]

cheese
igly
shadow
superbox

and i think 1 more

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-ltg-mods-mods-dox-gif-12807119010175108153

[gritty dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hikari-%26-nozomi-gif-11157652586242449865

[gritty dust]

SamVanMaele when he finds me

lol

[mighty thorn]

Ya know what

That’s honestly a list I’d be happy to be on

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

Wait

Why the hell do you have iggly’s address

[olive sable]

he thought it was a good idea to show what his neighbourhood looks like to give me an idea of how to 3D model the world for the game

the house 3D model is based directly of his house

[mighty thorn]

That’s cray cray

Anywho

Im gonna dm you my address now

[olive sable]

please dont

[amber fractal]

These are not the infinity stones of power

[olive sable]

do i just have that please dox yourself aura?

[amber fractal]

I am not helping at all in this case

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

i was hoping for an aura that atracts woman or whatever, not whatever this is

[mighty thorn]

Hey man

[sage crag]

erf

[mighty thorn]

Listen

If you have the aura that gets people’s addresses

The only thing stopping you from turning that into female interaction

Is your willpower

[olive sable]

oh wait im not friended to kaine corneko so you cant dm me

[sage crag]

go take your stink aura elsewhere

[mighty thorn]

IM NOT TALKING TO YOU ISLAND MONKEY

[amber fractal]

new user smell

[olive sable]

damn

even im not that agressive toward konii

[amber fractal]

The insults are strong with this one

[olive sable]

and i bully her daily

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-gold-ship-dance-umamusume-dance-golshi-gold-ship-jukebox-gif-8107532327957041509

[amber fractal]

It seems to be a repelant, commonly called "no bitches"

[olive sable]

[hoary lion]

Wtf did I miss to see this

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/sentai-daishikkaku-go-go-loser-ranger-ranger-reject-yellow-keeper-shinya-kiritani-gif-12558322986188582975

sam rn

[mighty thorn]

I’m going to defenestrate myself rn

[olive sable]

its not even on purpose

i just keep getting adresses flung towards me

[amber fractal]

took me half a second with that name

[olive sable]

this is like unspoken rizz dox

[amber fractal]

I thought you were another common member ngl

[hoary lion]

Golshi mentioned
Kimi no Ai ba ga zkyun dokyun hashiridashi

[mighty thorn]

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, D.C. 20500

Come get me

[olive sable]

brother

[hoary lion]

I am common wdym

[mighty thorn]

(That’s the white house)

[olive sable]

oh

thank god

[mighty thorn]

(And I stopped living there a few days ago)

[hoary lion]

Aint norway bro believed that

[amber fractal]

❌

[mighty thorn]

Yeah your right, it was months

[olive sable]

how the fuck am i supposed to know the adress of the white house?

[mighty thorn]

You just should

[hoary lion]

am sorry 😭

[amber fractal]

[hoary lion]

but I immediately dropped at Washington tbh

[olive sable]

like i can just drop in chat

Pl. de l'Atomium 1, 1020 Bruxelles

like do yall know where that is

cuz i do

[mighty thorn]

OMG DOX

GUYS

ITS SAM ADDRESS

[hoary lion]

probably the captial

[mighty thorn]

OMG

[amber fractal]

doxxing moment

[hoary lion]

and where whatever your president or something lives

[olive sable]

thats where his ugly thing is

[amber fractal]

The world may never know

[hoary lion]

what in the abomination

tf is that supposed to do

[sage crag]

atomium, brussels

[hoary lion]

assert dominance over other EU countries of whatever something

[mighty thorn]

It’s working shivers

[amber fractal]

not a hypercube, scam

[olive sable]

i mean its quite literaly named in the adress. central plaza of the atomium, number 1

[desert plaza]

what tf is a hypercube

[split osprey]

i was able to get SOME mouse input from the fact that the cursor jiggles a little when moving the camera, but its still super noisey and spikey compared to true mouse movement

[hoary lion]

cool 4d shit that we shouldn't be able to see

but math does math stuff

so it is dragged down to 2d

[desert plaza]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1397797409945550868/8-cell.gif

[sage crag]

shape with 6 vertices in 4d plane that are connected by cubes

[amber fractal]

we love 2 of the same gif

[olive sable]

iirc its a molecule of iron, idk why tho

[hoary lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935508298348777482/1377681336407425156/GrqTL3dXsAAbq5K.gif

[mighty thorn]

Sam

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-jim-carrey-funny-gif-12918652202164233594

[olive sable]

The Atomium in Brussels is shaped like a unit cell of an iron crystal, magnified 165 billion times. It consists of nine interconnected stainless steel spheres, representing iron atoms, arranged in a body-centered cubic structure. The structure is 102 meters tall and was designed for the 1958 Brussels World's Fair. 

Huh, interesting

[mighty thorn]

I’m rusty on the rules here, can I periodically mention catgirls in my usual fashion

[olive sable]

not really

keep it pg

[hoary lion]

don't share your huzz list

[amber fractal]

13+ don't do that

[mighty thorn]

Dad what’s a huzz list

[hoary lion]

unc

[mighty thorn]

Am I getting too old for this shit

[olive sable]

you're only 20 so i dont think so

[mighty thorn]

Nursing home at 19 will be crazy

HEY

[amber fractal]

I got no idea

[mighty thorn]

IM NOT TWENTY

[olive sable]

you arent?

well damn

[mighty thorn]

I’m actually not even 19 for another month

[hoary lion]

still unc

[olive sable]

wait so you're 18 then

[hoary lion]

older than me

[mighty thorn]

Yes

This is like

Not a secret

[olive sable]

you're the same age as me for a month

[mighty thorn]

Crazy how that works

[amber fractal]

me when I rewrite a 18+ server's age limit to allow my existance:

[hoary lion]

nahh #programming became open doxxing space of revealing personal secrets™

Time to turn it back

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/okabe-rintarou-steins-gate-s-g-anime-gif-3188468857373972059

we have reverted

[amber fractal]

new CTF just dropped

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/kira-queen-kira-yoshikage-jojo-kira-queen-kira-queen-discord-kira-queen-discord-bites-za-dusto-gif-27064140

petition to add transparent background images/gifs in discord

[olive sable]

they are

test

ye seems transparent enough

[hoary lion]

oh shi

[mighty thorn]

sigh

[hoary lion]

[mighty thorn]

I’m old

[amber fractal]

discord apperatnly is doing webp. godsend the discord intern

[mighty thorn]

Cause I don’t know what that means

[hoary lion]

scroll some reels or someth

[mighty thorn]

I’d rather be lowered into a wood chipper

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-crush-crusher-skull-halloween-gif-26163235

[hoary lion]

this gif was super necessary

[amber fractal]

From another server:
this college student that interns at discord whenever he isnt busy with school makes all the good changes, every time he has to leave for college nothing of worth happens :skull_sob: https://x.com/advaithj1/status/1947485639366349119

advaith (@advaithj1)

I've updated the GIF picker on desktop and mobile to load GIFs faster, using newer formats! we now prefer WebP over raw GIF and WebM over MP4. we've seen dramatic improvements to loading speeds and bandwidth usage from this change!

X · Jul 22, 2025, 2:35 AM

[hoary lion]

fire

[amber fractal]

I would check what other things they've done if I had an account

[hoary lion]

make them the CTO or whatever

i dont know the correct role name but you get it

[mighty thorn]

Bossman (tm)

[hoary lion]

™ is free

[mighty thorn]

Not on a phone keyboard it ain’t

[amber fractal]

I agree with CTO, this dude is actually doing something

[olive sable]

where does one find tm?

™

[amber fractal]

:tm:

[olive sable]

huh

[hoary lion]

™

[mighty thorn]

™

[olive sable]

™

[mighty thorn]

Huh

™

[hoary lion]

and google

™

[mighty thorn]

™

[desert plaza]

™

[hoary lion]

but they are pretty much the exact same

™

[olive sable]

™

i cant tell the difrence

[hoary lion]

welcome to copyright strike version of #programming ™

[mighty thorn]

™

[hoary lion]

maybe discord conveniently switches it to ™ symbol

or the other way

[olive sable]

do you need o copyright a game's assets when you release it btw? cuz that seems like a lot of work

[mighty thorn]

I mean

It’s complicated

[amber fractal]

Wait, this dude is doing LaTeX support. Yeah this dude should not be interning but instead given a proper position.

[mighty thorn]

But

You could probably do it all with some generic license in mass

[hoary lion]

please this update istg

[mighty thorn]

You COULD not

But you run the risk

[hoary lion]

I actually need latex in discord

[mighty thorn]

Of someone else copyrighting your assets then suing you over them

[olive sable]

i meant to type latex into google

i ended up typing it into the gif picker

[mighty thorn]

[amber fractal]

https://x.com/advaithj1/status/1897097572122288615

advaith (@advaithj1)

Discord is working on LaTeX support!

X · Mar 5, 2025, 1:31 AM

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

we NEED IT

[hoary lion]

[desert plaza]

[hoary lion]

time to directly provide paper reviews on discord

instead of screenshotting equations

[olive sable]

mods can we please get latex bot?

[amber fractal]

Please come out soon

[mighty thorn]

Can we talk about

How with the server tags

They made it from a predefined set of icons

Instead of server emotes

Can we discuss that

[olive sable]

i think that was the best aproach

[mighty thorn]

I don’t

[olive sable]

as badges

[mighty thorn]

We also

In this grand age

Have such a thing

As AI content filtering

[hoary lion]

who gonna pay the bills

[amber fractal]

I'd say it is better not to leave it to chance

[mighty thorn]

THEY HAVE A DISCORD??????

[hoary lion]

they have discord??

[olive sable]

oh god

[mighty thorn]

WHAT

WGATTTTTT

[olive sable]

fuck

[hoary lion]

this shit was not expected

[olive sable]

i should not have mentioned that

oh no

[amber fractal]

DO not be stupid

[mighty thorn]

Doctors without firewalls

[hoary lion]

heck, this shit was the most unexpected thing in this year

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[hoary lion]

lmfao

[olive sable]

you better not

[amber fractal]

saved

[safe path]

what

[olive sable]

i personally dont have a problem with egirls as long as they dont want my creditcard info

[mighty thorn]

Oh hey you

We were talking

[amber fractal]

hi mods

[mighty thorn]

About

Journalism

[olive sable]

hi mods

[mighty thorn]

And its effects on the global economy

[safe path]

no you are not

move on from the topic

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

👍

[olive sable]

so uh what were we talking about again?

[mighty thorn]

Tags

Oh hey

A tag

On my name

[olive sable]

no no nop

before that

[mighty thorn]

Uhhhh

Programming

[amber fractal]

It is now programming mhm

[mighty thorn]

So guys

You ever reverse a string?

[olive sable]

no?

never needed to

[mighty thorn]

N-

Never?

[olive sable]

not that i remember

[amber fractal]

I have done so when I needed to

[olive sable]

i imagine you just do some list slicing in python, and for c++ i have nmo fucking clue

[amber fractal]

vedalapologyvideoby="your name"; revsersedaname=vedalapologyvideoby[::-1]
IIRC this is python

[hoary lion]

I love shiny roles

[mighty thorn]

I got to be honest

I thought I was just going crazy

For like a week

Until I saw proof that it is indeed now a feature

[amber fractal]

I have not seen them yet besides screenshots

hmm

[hoary lion]

but python does not have semicolons

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

you can use them, you just dont need to iirc

[prime ridge]

It's an exciting day. New neuro project just dropped. I feel pretty good about this one I made #1397799372191825993

[amber fractal]

The situtations where you can use them are beyond jank

personal experince

[hoary lion]

this is hilarious

peak content

[amber fractal]

I'd be excited to see if this actually happens thanks to this

[desert plaza]

someone tell me how i embed source code

[olive sable]

wdym?

embed where?

[desert plaza]

y'know

[olive sable]

on discord?

[desert plaza]

yes

[olive sable]

```

//code goes here

```

fuck

[desert plaza]

[olive sable]

i was hoping to put the fake ` in the thingy but i guess disocrd wasnt having it

[desert plaza]

mhm

[olive sable]

print("mhm")

add py or cpp or whaever you want for syntax highlighting stuf to the first ``

[desert plaza]

wdym add to, on the left or right

[olive sable]

right

[desert plaza]

ok, string reversal code in c ```c
#include<stdio.h>

unsigned int get_count(char* argv) {
unsigned int i = 0;
while(argv[i]) i++;
return i;
}

int main(int argc, char** argv) {
const unsigned int argsize = get_count(argv[1]);
char buffer[4096] = {0};
for (unsigned int i = 0; i < argsize; i++) buffer[i] = argv[1][argsize-i-1];
printf("%s\n", buffer);
return 0;
}

bro

[olive sable]

put the ` on newlines

both the top and bottom should be seperate, besides the c

so

{
code
}
`\```

fuck

[midnight sigil]

it's... beautiful

that lens abberation

holy

[desert plaza]

how the fuk do i make new lines

[olive sable]

press enter

[midnight sigil]

\r\n

👍

[olive sable]

screenshot wll probably be simplet to underrstand

the code you sent before has a space

no spaces behind there

[desert plaza]

wtf ok

[olive sable]

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-reversed-reverse-shocked-gif-15608473656380865909

the culprit was an invisible character

[sage crag]

isnt this more complex than normal

[olive sable]

[desert plaza]

wdym

[sage crag]

forgot c doesnt use slices

[desert plaza]

wtf are slices

[sage crag]

reverse := fn(slice: []u8): []u8 {
    if slice.len == 0 return slice
    j := slice.len - 1
    i := 0
    temp: u8 = 0
    loop if i < j {
        temp = slice[i]
        slice[i] = slice[j]
        slice[j] = temp
        i += 1
        j -= 1
    } else return slice
}

hblang string reversal

[amber fractal]

manual reversal

[sage crag]

inplace yeah

[desert plaza]

lasrever gnirts gnalbh

[olive sable]

huh, well im confused

why tf did it not crash like this

[sage crag]

operator overloading

[olive sable]

wdym?

[tender river]

reverse := fn(slice: []u8): void {
    for i := 0..(slice.len / 2) {
        tmp := slice[i]
        slice[i] = slice[slice.len - i - 1]
        slice[slice.len - i - 1] = tmp
    }
}

[sage crag]

new

new

for loop

who is loop

[olive sable]

me

Sam Loop Van Maele

[sage crag]

sam van van van van van van ...

[olive sable]

reading my name in english is so cursed

[tender river]

not supported at comptime

[sage crag]

motor vehicle

[sage crag]

yes

[olive sable]

sam is supposed to be with the a like in awa

[sage crag]

i dont know why

[tender river]

also i ran into a small handgun where i forgot to remove i += 1 and it compiled

footgun

not handgun

[sage crag]

handgun

footgun

[olive sable]

what is a footgun if not a handgun for your feet?

[sage crag]

er

at comptime?

concern

[tender river]

no not comptim

e

[sage crag]

sidetracked day

[tender river]

// iterate in steps of 2
for i := 0..bwaa {
    i += 1
}

[sage crag]

er er ooh er er

[tender river]

i'm too rust brained to understand this

[sage crag]

number

[worldly plank]

So if I got this right:

void main() {
0
}

[tender river]

mhm

[olive sable]

`c

mhm

`

[sage crag]

prime c

derivative of what

[tender river]

either derivatives (bad) or haskell (good)

[sage crag]

derivatives (good) or haskell (witch)

[tender river]

i'm not a witch i need ?never for production code

not for evil

[sage crag]

er

[desert plaza]

not right

[olive sable]

triple your `

[sage crag]

noe i know you only do this to hurt the compiler

[tender river]

not a witch i don't have a pointy hat

[olive sable]

yet

[worldly plank]

Thanks for the help!

[olive sable]

np

[desert plaza]

damn, you got that faster than me

[olive sable]

skiill isue

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/drugbusta1-gif-6615366545959979992

[sage crag]

when will you use union { .a: never, .b: void } in your types

[desert plaza]

skill*

[sage crag]

[desert plaza]

also issue*

[sage crag]

why := enum(never) {
  .stop;
}

[olive sable]

brother stop correcting my spelling im bad at typing

[tender river]

results are the only unions i have used so far, will probably also use unions for this at some point

[desert plaza]

skill issue

[sage crag]

onion

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[sage crag]

im vaguely curious to see if enums work with uninhabited types actually

[tender river]

this is the hblang equivalent of defining type aliases that just map to any

[desert plaza]

i just "no u"d you so hard

[tender river]

do they work with []u8

[sage crag]

better not

javascript simulator

im too busy sleeping to program

[tender river]

sleep well

[sage crag]

answer is probably no

[tender river]

your sleep schedule plan did not work out

[sage crag]

enum works on basis of variants, and the number of variants of structs is likely uncomputed

[sage crag]

[tender river]

i dont use enums that much because they dont work out well for deserialization

or i guess i could support them anyway

m

[sage crag]

enums are cool but no typed unions

sadgi

[sage crag]

tagged

cant spell

[tender river]

we have tagged unions at home

struct { tag, union }

[sage crag]

despicable

what happens if you make a function ptr that returns type

[tender river]

undefined behavior

[sage crag]

why := fn(): type return u8

main := fn(): void {
    x: ^fn(): type = &why
    leaked := x()
}

cursed

not like

same with never

so much UB with function ptrs

[amber fractal]

Classic browser behavior

[tender river]

for me it doesnt compile unless ^fn(): type is parenthesized

[olive sable]

dot(grid, vec2(1.0)) is slightly cheaper than adding grid.x + grid.y
thats weird, you'd think addition was faster

[tender river]

but the formatter just removes the parentheses every time

[sage crag]

bad := fn(x: ^fn(@Any()): void): void {
  return x(x)
}

[sage crag]

yes its a precedence bug

[amber fractal]

matrix multiplication my beloved

[sage crag]

@as() works though

[sage crag]

maybe @Any() has to be @TypeOf(x) here

compiler probably crashes when it sees this

[tender river]

why := fn(): type return u32
main := fn(): u32 return @as(@as(^fn(): type, &why)(), 0)

crash

not gonna report this one

[sage crag]

erf

what about bitcasting the return value of why to a u32 and then returning that

[olive sable]

apparently it compiles to the same mahine code so chatgpt was jsut tripping

[tender river]

it returns 0

[sage crag]

i think it makes sense

[tender river]

wait no

it does not i didnt actually run the program

it returns 5 for u32, 4 for u16, 3 for u8

10 for i32

finally runtime reflection real

[sage crag]

surprised it held up

same behaviour as if you dont use fnptr though

[tender river]

main := fn(): @bit_cast(@as(u32, 5)) return 0

[sage crag]

isnt it just @bit_cast(5)

[tender river]

its a size mismatch then

since types are 4 bytes

[sage crag]

since fn: <type>

[tender river]

but 5 is 8 bytes

[sage crag]

ah

[sage crag]

it work?

[tender river]

yes

[sage crag]

cursed

try a random number

[tender river]

type value of this expression is corrupted

also 0 is never

[olive sable]

hmmm, i have discovered bit operations are cool and fast.

ivec2 base = ivec2(id % rows, id / rows) - halfrow;
is now
ivec2 base = ivec2(id & (rows - 1), id >> 7) - halfrow;

[sage crag]

makes sense. the type values aside from primitives are computed as hashes so essentially random u32

[tender river]

16 is the max number that works

(it causes a compiler crash)

[sage crag]

perhaps its the bottom type

[tender river]

its either struct or tuple

[sage crag]

weird

[tender river]

wait no its the any type

[sage crag]

double weird

[tender river]

new crash

main := fn(): @Any() return 0

[sage crag]

this never worked

@Any() type would inferred from where main is called

main is only called in _start

[sage crag]

have you tried this poor mans recursion

[tender river]

bwa

[sage crag]

why := enum(type) {}

why2 := enum(@Any()) {}

[tender river]

how do you set enum variant values again

[sage crag]

.x := a;

[dull hare]

my life for the last 3y+ 🤣 (with various browsers 🤣 🤣 )

[tender river]

1984

[sage crag]

im confused but approving

[sage crag]

A := enum(@TypeOf(A)) {}

[tender river]

it works

A := enum(@TypeOf(A)){.x}
main := fn(): u32 return A.x

[sage crag]

what

gross

what is size of A

[tender river]

erm

4

idk how that even works

[sage crag]

internal repr u32

what if you remove .x

its strange, enum is supposed to size to the smallest int capable of holding all variants

[tender river]

new crash

A := enum([]u8){.x := 0}
main := fn(): A return A.x

[sage crag]

what

[sage crag]

enum of function ptrs

well, it will not work since global function ptrs dont exist yet

[olive sable]

i have reached the point of optimizations that chatgpt goes against what it said earlier

[sage crag]

chatgpt sucks at optimising

[tender river]

A := enum([]u8){.x}
x := fn(): struct{.x: u64; .y: u64} return @bit_cast(A.x)
main := fn(): u32 return @int_cast(x().x)

[olive sable]

yep

[tender river]

works

but if you add one more variant

new crash

[sage crag]

ew

banned

[olive sable]

thats not the fuckign same

[tender river]

no perf change

slightly neater

✅

[sage crag]

they are true

[olive sable]

chatgpt are you acting stupid or are you stupid?

[sage crag]

its correct

[olive sable]

no its not

[sage crag]

just not what you wanted

it is

• the same performance
• neater

[olive sable]

the change it made is acttivly worse

[sage crag]

it made no promise about the code working

[olive sable]

grid is supposed to go into 1 and 3, not 1 and 2

[tender river]

smh caring about semantics instead of code length

[sage crag]

whenever i see a correctness bugfix and the test disasm size gains 200 instructions

[tender river]

you just have to find another correctness bug and its fix will reduce the disasm

trust

[sage crag]

performance lottery

[olive sable]

the grass is literaly underground cuz it swapped y and z

[sage crag]

enum(union { void, never })

nice code block

[olive sable]

im gonna throngle you and chatgpt
its not what i wanted cuz its not what i asked for

[tender river]

A := enum(never){.x}
main := fn(): void return @as(void, @bit_cast(A.x))

[sage crag]

throngle is a new one

[tender river]

same as before, crashes if you add one more variant

[sage crag]

what if fn(): never return A.x

[tender river]

awa

[olive sable]

awa

[sage crag]

awa

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

my wake up alarm just went off

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

guess its time to stop sleeping

[tender river]

wake up

[olive sable]

time for teletubies, time for teletubies

[tender river]

good morning

[sage crag]

is it

[olive sable]

konii is the purple teletubie

[sage crag]

what is time anyway

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-darla-tap-glass-gif-10853706391931718211

[tender river]

A := enum(never){.x}
main := fn(): never return @bit_cast(A.x)

this crashes
but if i remove the bit cast it complains that A is not never

[olive sable]

a vector

or a float

depends on the shader

[sage crag]

wrong, time is fake

[olive sable]

konii, how is it to be a teletubie?

[sage crag]

you live in a 2d hologram plane and time is the motion of the edge

[olive sable]

konii is ignoring the teletubie allegations

[amber fractal]

she already has enough allegations smh

[sage crag]

does @Any work

[tender river]

A := enum(@Any()){.x}
main := fn(): u32 return A.x

works

[sage crag]

how about @SrcLoc or @CurrentScope

[sage crag]

what

[tender river]

enums are secretly the most cursed feature of hblang

[sage crag]

does it just let you return anything

wtf

what is the disasm of that

no seriously

can you .x := a

[tender river]

if i add another variant it crashes as always

if i do .x := 5 it still returns 0

[sage crag]

probably because its imaginary

[sage crag]

[tender river]

actually

[sage crag]

what if you change the return type

[tender river]

it still returns 0 if i do it with u32 a well

[sage crag]

er

did you compile it properly

[tender river]

i hope

[sage crag]

A := enum(@Any()){.x}
main := fn(): never return A.x

what happens here

[tender river]

_start:
    sub rsp, 0x08
    mov rax, 0x3C
    xor rdi, rdi
    syscall

[sage crag]

xor rdi, rdi

ret 0

[tender river]

it doesnt compile with never since it doesnt return never

[sage crag]

ohh wait it might be my entrypoint code doing this

yes it is

read it, i left it as a placeholder

[tender river]

oh i figured it out

@Any() has the size 0

so whatever you set its still 0 bytes so it just truncates

[opaque wharf]

Well, that was fun backread

[sage crag]

you might want to write a custom entrypoint

[sage crag]

i think my code just blanket checks for i32 atm

[desert plaza]

i wonder why the sub rsp, 0x08

[tender river]

its u32 in my case

[sage crag]

setting up stack for some reason

[tender river]

stack space, its unused but optimizers are complex programs

[tender river]

since i'm on a 10 year old branch

[sage crag]

er

my fault

im not using puter today, need to touch grass

[tender river]

its fine lily is so stable lately i havent seen a single interfae breakage

[sage crag]

its stably broken

no new breaks no new fixes

[idle iron]

made my first gui based app in rust you can set the background and set events and the current day is highlighted with a red outline this took hours of my life i will never get back

[sage crag]

neurocalendar

[opaque wharf]

The calendar is wrong and is gaslighting you into thinking this is Friday

[desert plaza]

for no reason, you mean

the program runs just fine without it

without that instruction i mean

[idle iron]

no its right its the 23rd at least where i am

i use the system date and time

im just so glad its over

[desert plaza]

the 25th is Friday, what u talking about

[opaque wharf]

No I was just referencing my failure to read calendar. I thought today is Friday hence why I didn't sleep

[sage crag]

is it not tuesday

[opaque wharf]

Turns out, it is not in fact, Friday

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

no it has a reason

dont know why the compiler want to put it there

[idle iron]

anyway did i do good or am i shit with ui?

[sage crag]

just let it, its doing cute things

[opaque wharf]

Its good

[sage crag]

both can be true

nice calendar though

[idle iron]

awesome

i might put it on github if anyone is interested id have to clean up the code first

[desert plaza]

no, the compiler is wrong, my brain way better compiler

[idle iron]

noooooooooo i just noticed the 2 buttons on the top left are wonky

screw it its a feature not a bug

[olive sable]

this is the absolute fastest im probably gonna get

#version 300 es
precision highp float;

layout (std140) uniform PROJ {mat4 projection;};
layout (std140) uniform VIEW {mat4 view;};
layout (std140) uniform cam  {vec3 campos;};

uniform sampler2D noisemap;
uniform ivec2 forward;
uniform float time;
uniform float density;

out float dis;
out float height;

const int rows = 128;
const int halfrow = rows / 2;
const vec3 vertices[5] = vec3[5]
(
    vec3(-0.1, 0, 0),
    vec3(0.1, 0, 0),
    vec3(-0.075, 0.25, 0),
    vec3(0.075, 0.25, 0),
    vec3(0, 0.5, 0)
);

void main()
{
    int id = gl_InstanceID;
    ivec2 base = ivec2(id & (rows - 1), id >> 7) - halfrow;
    base *= sign(forward) | ivec2(1);
    base += forward;

    vec2 grid = vec2(base) * density;
    dis = dot(grid, grid) * 0.0001;

    grid += floor(campos.xz);
    vec2 rnd = texture(noisemap, grid * 0.01).xy;
    grid += rnd;

    vec3 vpos = vertices[gl_VertexID];
    vpos.y *= rnd.x + 1.0;
    height = vpos.y * 2.0;

    grid.x += height * sin(time + grid.x + grid.y) * 0.2;

    vec4 worldpos = view * vec4(grid.x, 0.0, grid.y, 1.0) + vec4(vpos, 0);
    gl_Position = projection * worldpos;
}

its beautiful

😍

now i just gotta optemise the cpu side

[opaque wharf]

I just come back from another server. Dude is asking what is causing the logged error message. After some explaining from the library author, the dude fixed it by removing the error logging

[olive sable]

the error is there for a reason no?

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, the library author at least tell that it is indeed error on dev env only

Because of some react shenanigans

[olive sable]

glMultiDrawArraysIndirect() doesnt work in web apparently, im gonna be doing more cursed shenanigans

[desert plaza]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1397797409945550868/8-cell.gif

[olive sable]

ive seen that already, i was the one who originally posted it

[opaque wharf]

Fun fact, in 4D you can have double rotation in perpendicular plane

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/seen-flag-white-flag-gif-12423578

[opaque wharf]

So, if that tesseract is doubly rotating, it can be seen as the "outer" cube is rotating too

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[desert plaza]

yeh, after i asked what a hypercube was

i member

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-i-member-memberberries-south-park-i-remember-oh-yeah-gif-20408218

[olive sable]

then why keep posting it?

[desert plaza]

i didn't know you had a monopoly on hypercube

i apologize

i will stop posting it, sir

[olive sable]

thanks

[desert plaza]

ur welcome, my lord

[opaque wharf]

So it has been decided @amber fractal . We are a monarchies with Sam being ruling lord