programming

[tender river]

if you need cookies it would

[rigid snow]

“just jump through 10 hoops each time instead of having the thing just work”

[rare bridge]

^

[tender river]

idk what you mean opening a video in a video player is NOT 10 hoops

[rare bridge]

the whole reason i need hls is i need to verify that the hls integration works

[trim valve]

have firefox for 99% of browsing and edge for hls

[rigid snow]

thanks y’all for shutting down my monthly thought of switching to a firefox based browser

[trim valve]

its not that bad

[tender river]

i'm pretty sure people usually use hls.js

which supports hls in any browser

[rare bridge]

not in my use case!

which is annoying

[tender river]

you can try https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/native_hls_playback/

[rare bridge]

but i'm not in control of the code controlling video display, i am in control of the streaming infrastructure though

could solve this by enabling the currently disabled WebRTC support, but nahh

[tender river]

i think chrome also doesnt have it natively supported (unlike edge) but i only have one random site to back this up

[rare bridge]

chrome won't play it if you go to the m3u8 link, but it'll play it otherwise

[tender river]

[rare bridge]

this graph feels like a lie from my experience

chromium based browsers do support HLS

[trim valve]

https://www.chromium.org/audio-video/ 🤨

[rare bridge]

[rare bridge]

wdym only on android

[rare bridge]

kinda confused then, but oh well

lemme try firefox

[trim valve]

oh that would maybe make sense

[tender river]

this is firefox

[warped narwhal]

[rare bridge]

yeah, firefox supports HLS on mobile devices

but i've had reports from those on firefox that HLS does not work, never had issues on chrome

firefox is already installed

[trim valve]

tbh I was mainly saying this because firefox has really fucky colour handling if you aren't runing a "normal" display

it will sometimes just decide I get weird alpha blending and I have to live with it

[old totem]

do you know how to make it not like that

my original thought was strcat

but then realized i cant do that

[opaque sigil]

snprintf or whatever weird c++ equivalent there is

[warped narwhal]

std::basic_ostringstream<TCHAR> oss; oss << L"Number: " << number;
std::basic_string<TCHAR> str = oss.str();

[old totem]

sprintf yeah

but idk how to concat with const

[opaque sigil]

Yeah that

[warped narwhal]

@rare bridge you should pin this

[tender river]

just use std::string and std::to_string

you can use std::stringstream if you're feeling fancy

[tender river]

please dont use anything printf related in c++...

[old totem]

u just gave me an idea

[rigid snow]

it’s not printing related it’s sprinting

[old totem]

make f sprint

[tender river]

do you want actual code

[old totem]

yes actually

my brain not working right rn

[rigid snow]

right rn 💔

[old totem]

right as in correct and right now as in right now

[tender river]

std::string s = "C:\\oajmdoiawnjmdwapoidjwa\\whatever";
s += std::to_string(global_count);
s += ".png";
rename("oamdowjdamw", s.c_str());

[opaque sigil]

I'll do it again and you can't stop me

[tender river]

you are excused

you know what you are doing

[rigid snow]

yes i get it now, my brain might work worse than yours right rn

[opaque sigil]

I get the pass

[opaque sigil]

i always forget the kinds of things you can do in c++ thanks to operator overloading

[rigid snow]

man i keep thinking of that code screenshot i sent a while ago where a file is being read into memory with a realloc call each char

it’s beautiful

[opaque sigil]

[old totem]

it didnt work

and since i've gone through this like 50 times

i think im stickign with the switch

feel freee to debug it tho

[warped narwhal]

you need wide chars when dealing with windows api, so change string to wstring

I don't know if the to_string has a wide eqiv though.

[opaque sigil]

to_wstring apparently

who could've guessed

[tender river]

the original used regular strings

also there are wide and non-wide versions of the windows apis

W and A everywhere

[warped narwhal]

there are also a load of macros that choose the right one automatically, but not every api has it

[tender river]

you have not added the full path to the first argument to rename

[glass flower]

why not just use std::path

[old totem]

full path?

ohh

oh shit yeah mb

[tender river]

is that from std::filesystem

[old totem]

brain no worky tonight

[glass flower]

yeah i think that one...

[tender river]

lol i haven't used c++ since around the time std::filesystem got added

[trim valve]

mhm yes amd blender surely is running at 2fps and not just like, rending its ui only on interaction

[trim valve]

unfortunately this was too late to stop the annoying trend of all those backrooms videos using obviously fake fisheye effects everywhere possible

[glass flower]

i wonder what it would say with the new UI backend. using vulkan

[trim valve]

I am on vulkan

yeah amd adrenalin is not having fun 😭

i should get back into using blender soon

well actually

there are several things I should do 😭

[opaque sigil]

so many things

[trim valve]

current sublist is:

• get a soldering iron
• get a pico2/nrf<something>/esp32
• get a soldering mat probably
• fuck around and find out

[tender river]

get a pinecil

its very good from what i've heard

[trim valve]

they're both really good and horrible from what I've heard 😭

apparently they have nonstandard soldering tips or something?

regardless its gonna be a usbc one

[tender river]

well you could get something like a t101 but its gonna be much more expensive

actually idk about much but definitely more

[amber fractal]

I know we recently got a usbc soldering iron, at least had other tips.

Nothing perfect

[trim valve]

wait hm, it looks like both the t101 and pinecil v2 use b2 as a standard for tips (I have no idea what that means)

eitherway I'll sit on the idea for a while

[tender river]

[trim valve]

I assume anything related to actually playing video to people is wizardry

I live in a world of not displaying it to a user swho cares

[tender river]

my code is so mean to me

actually the pros of developing in hblang is you can blame the compiler instead and it may even end up being true

but blaming your own code is just good manners

it was in fact my code

[sage crag]

Head on, apply directly to the forehead.

[sage crag]

this is how i get away with incompetence

[glass flower]

my external miners still work. my bug fix actually worked

[tender river]

my json parser didnt support negative integers

good riddance

[tender river]

hey you're at least somewhat competent

the real secret to competence is having code review

or being born in a lab alternatively

yippie my test actually passed

waaah im tired

no it doesnt mean im going to sleep im done with recreational programming and moving to professional programming

[olive sable]

ah yes, ofcourse

[hazy pawn]

https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1m0k22v/mistralaivoxtralmini3b2507_hugging_face/

Voxtral looking real interesting.

[tender river]

nvm erf time

[trim valve]

smh my brother gave me such a disappointed look when I said this to him a few days ago

[olive sable]

i don't get it

bred has a brother

[tender river]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/transcoded/e/e0/HeadOn_commercial.ogv/HeadOn_commercial.ogv.360p.webm

[olive sable]

im probably too young to get this

im geussing its some type of skin cream?

[opaque sigil]

i love how i can download gmp, compile it, then run clang-format over the source files and then compile it again just for it to fail to compile

[sage crag]

bird alarm

[tender river]

where

[old totem]

btw id like to thank all of you
@tender river @warped narwhal @opaque sigil i would kiss you all but it's 7 am

[sage crag]

bird

[tender river]

i get unreasonably excited when i see a small bird

they're so cute

[trim valve]

I don't remember why it was funny

it just kinda popped into my head and knew my brother would have a funny reaction to it

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

i have acquired new knowledge
now to try and figure out how to create a cuda kernel this way

[indigo mirage]

Bruh, I knew your name and pfp looked familiar

[opaque sigil]

hm?

[indigo mirage]

Balanced Whining Thread the other day

[opaque sigil]

huh

[indigo mirage]

nvm

[opaque sigil]

my memory isn't very good sorry

[calm locust]

Hello technical people

: -

[indigo mirage]

I swore you were someone else from a game discord my bad

im on a hotspot rn so my messages arent going through

[calm locust]

Kk

[opaque sigil]

oh that was someone else then probably

[indigo mirage]

Anybody working on some interesting projects right now? I find myself getting super deep into mine a lot recently.

[indigo mirage]

o/

[opaque sigil]

not a project but i'm currently trying to get a setup where i can write cuda kernels in zig because why not

but the zig compiler is segfaulting

hmmm it doesn't like ReleaseSafe

[indigo mirage]

Ya know, this is the first time I've heard of Zig. That's really cool.

[opaque sigil]

it is a pretty neat lil language i'd say

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

smorb

[opaque sigil]

oh sick i apparenly had a 5090 all along

[sage crag]

[tender river]

i have a 5090

she goes to another school

mbwaaaaaa

[opaque sigil]

(function) fn enqueue_function[func_type: AnyTrivialRegType, //, func: func_type, *Ts: AnyType, *, dump_asm: Variant[Bool, Path, StringSlice[StaticConstantOrigin], fn() capturing -> Path] = __init__[::Copyable & ::Movable](False), dump_llvm: Variant[Bool, Path, StringSlice[StaticConstantOrigin], fn() capturing -> Path] = __init__[::Copyable & ::Movable](False), _dump_sass: Variant[Bool, Path, StringSlice[StaticConstantOrigin], fn() capturing -> Path] = __init__[::Copyable & ::Movable](False), _ptxas_info_verbose: Bool = False](self, *args: *Ts, *, grid_dim: Dim, block_dim: Dim, cluster_dim: OptionalReg[Dim] = OptionalReg[Dim]({:i1 0, 1}), shared_mem_bytes: OptionalReg[Int] = OptionalReg[Int]({:i1 0, 1}), owned attributes: List[LaunchAttribute] = List(, Tuple()), owned constant_memory: List[ConstantMemoryMapping] = List(, Tuple()), func_attribute: OptionalReg[FuncAttribute] = OptionalReg[FuncAttribute]({:i1 0, 1})) raises

what a beautiful function signature

[tender river]

rewriting most of erf right now surely it will go better this time

but i made the executive decision of not doing any error reporting

i'm sure it won't backfire in the future

[faint sandal]

[sage crag]

this is what the type names of chayleafs json parser look like

[tender river]

i dont even wanna try looking at them

[sage crag]

log.print(@name_of(@TypeOf(...))) now

[tender river]

yes maam

[sage crag]

[tender river]

not that bad

(this is JsonValue)

[sage crag]

you are the reason the compiler needed an increase in comptime stack size not once, not twice, but three times

[tender river]

come on this is only 6 lines

[sage crag]

functional programmers

[tender river]

i'm a dysfunctional programmer*

[sage crag]

[tender river]

this type is a thing in the first place only because theres no first class functions

(maybe you can do more with them now but you couldnt back when i made it)

[sage crag]

unlikely

[tender river]

found a bug in the struct deserializer

it allows missing fields apparently

oh right im not checking for that

[sage crag]

bwa

[tender river]

fixed

just had to add this

i wonder why i used u8 instead of booleans

probably because its easier to set it to all zeroes and uses the same amount of memory

(and lets be real one u8 for each field is not that much)

[hoary lion]

What do I even do with just C knowledge

[olive sable]

[tender river]

grr

[olive sable]

"grr"?

[sage crag]

unsocialised 😔

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/slippery-duck-slip-ducks-ice-gif-1514522798802040392

[tender river]

bwa

[gritty dust]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-geese-goosey-canada-goose-gif-25374618

[sage crag]

wrong waterfowl

[gritty dust]

[sage crag]

8-bwaa

[olive sable]

8-bwaa

[olive sable]

gimme a sec

eh

should be transparent but can tbe bothered

[opaque sigil]

open-source/max/max/kernels/src/layout/layout_tensor.mojo:4686:9: warning: parameter for unrolling loop more than 65536 times may cause long compilation time and large code size. (use '--loop-unrolling-warn-threshold' to increase the threshold or set to `0` to disable this warning)

i decided to implement knapsack in mojo to test out their gpu stuff and uhhh, what are they doing it never told it to unroll anything

currently at 50GB memory usage while compiling

[sage crag]

this is why hblang is good

explicit loop unrolling with $loop or $while (or $for)

[tender river]

i was wondering how old erf implemented functions

since they had more than 1 argument

[sage crag]

why do you not know

didnt you write it

[tender river]

forgor

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

[tender river]

turns out it used one argument at a time but added a small annotation with the argument count before calling the function to make sure it matches

and i was thinking there were actual tuples

[sage crag]

currying is basically tuples

[olive sable]

curry?

[tender river]

curry

yummy

[olive sable]

damn it konii, stop making me hungry

[sage crag]

creme brule

parfait

teto fumo

omelette

[tender river]

the type of currying is something like ((A * B) -> C) -> (A -> (B -> C))

so it really is

[olive sable]

rum omelets

[opaque sigil]

i never thought i'd struggle due to the fact that a loop is being unrolled

[sage crag]

turn off compiler opts

too easy

[opaque sigil]

oh wait

i know why it's unrolling

it's probably cause the limit is a constant

[amber fractal]

I can't wait for the issue called "can I plz have more stack size"

[opaque sigil]

let's gooooo

i was correct

[tender river]

i want to go one step further now and add type argument to functions (and also make type inference undecidable) but i've yet to figure out what i'm supposed to do to achieve that

[olive sable]

do yall have appelflappen in the uk?

i would kill for some rn

[sage crag]

apple turnover?

[tender river]

i complained once, the dev added an option to increase it, then it stopped being enough so i had to enable optimizations, then the compiler dev refactored some huge function so it stopped being so stack heavy

[olive sable]

no, i guess yall dont ave those then

[sage crag]

https://git.ablecorp.eu/mlokis/hblang/commit/6b0a7d8421381b24b0f4fdcb870f3440c86776cc

[tender river]

most of those lines were one function

[olive sable]

i googled what its called in english but the site i found just used the dutch name so

[tender river]

or two if we're being honest

[olive sable]

seems to be simialir tho

[tender river]

(i don't blame him i was just a bit surprised the compiler didnt compile it to essentially equivalent code stack usage wise)

[sage crag]

probably something to do with zig's typesystem

[tender river]

it makes sense to compile a separate slot for each variable in debug mode

probably

[olive sable]

imagine using zig

[sage crag]

ah yes, the compiler was compiled on debug mode

this is true

[sage crag]

i agree, this is why you should use hblang instead

[olive sable]

true

[sage crag]

its not basically zig

[olive sable]

it better not be

[tender river]

its definitely not basically zig its completely different such as uuh

[sage crag]

@CurrentScope() and not @This()

[olive sable]

[desert plaza]

something wrong with zig?

[sage crag]

no

hblang is written in zig

i like zig

[olive sable]

i have no clue what zig is but im hating on it for no reason

[sage crag]

i am not under duress while i say this

[amber fractal]

-#

[sage crag]

smolnub

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

i have noclue how things got like this but konii and i just hate on eachother these days ig

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

as friends tho

or like, i think we're friends?

[opaque sigil]

CUDA call failed: CUDA_ERROR_ILLEGAL_ADDRESS (an illegal memory access was encountered)
my favourite

[tender river]

you're under arrest

[sage crag]

i am over arrest

thank you

[olive sable]

3D modeeling an american house makes one truley question what architects even do

[amber fractal]

Delegated to Chatgpt before AI even existed

[olive sable]

why is the window not centered?
why is the left side painted a diffrent colour than the right side?
why does this part suddendly have a brick wall

[sage crag]

cheaper

the builders just wing the design as they go

[olive sable]

if im paying 6 digits for a house it better have centered windows or im dragging the designer to my basement

[sage crag]

what basement

they didnt make you one

[tender river]

arent some american houses essentially disposable because its cheaper to get insurance than build a proper house

[desert plaza]

difgits mhm

[sage crag]

git difs?

no way

[olive sable]

that hasnt stopped me in my current house, why would it stop me there?

[sage crag]

a hole dug with a shovel is not a basement it is a burial

[amber fractal]

Hell is my basement and your going to a burning good time while your down there

[olive sable]

no no, its a proper basement-ish

it has a staircase, and the walls are cemented

it only leaked water into it a coupe times

[sage crag]

im actually an html tag

little known fact

[olive sable]

konii, you're a fucking tv

[tender river]

<konii/>

[sage crag]

maybe

[sage crag]

you have killed me

i have died

[amber fractal]

<konii>

[sage crag]

i am alive

[desert plaza]

erm it's actually "you're" btw

[tender river]

but if someone types somethig like </html> the <konii> tag will automatically close

[sage crag]

you have killed me

[tender river]

its okay i revived you as well

[sage crag]

🤔

[amber fractal]

<konii><konii>

Duplication

[desert plaza]

<konii></konii> complete

[sage crag]

for legal reasons i am not allowed to create clones of myself in text channels

[tender river]

in fact you are now the top level tag

[olive sable]

<konii>
        <meta charset="utf-8">
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
    <style type="text/css">
        * {
            margin: 0;
            padding: 0;
            background-color: #222;
        }
        canvas {
            border: 0px none;
            outline: none;
            background-color: black;
            width: 100%;
            height: 100%;
            display: block;
            margin-left: auto;
            margin-right: auto;
        }
        .overlay {
            position: absolute;
            top: 10px;
            left: 10px;
            z-index: 1;
            font-size: 30px;
            color: white;
            background-color: black;
        }
    </style>
</konii>

[sage crag]

sorry i do not have css support

no styling

[olive sable]

setting up a quick window to dispaly my opengl on konii

[olive sable]

then what are you even worth?

[sage crag]

rude

i can make cookies

[opaque sigil]

idk if i like this result better more than the cuda segfault hmm

[olive sable]

ill take yuor entire stock

[amber fractal]

can the konii tag at least do web assembly?

[sage crag]

perhaps

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

is for me

[olive sable]

damnit

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-5410720738258813881

[olive sable]

sorry if that was a bit too attacking btw

[small anvil]

evil samvanmaele

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

egg

[olive sable]

sure...

egg

[tender river]

🥚

[small anvil]

[sage crag]

it is a miracle

how do the egg manufacturing companies make them so tasty

:mhm:

[desert plaza]

what

[sage crag]

the egg manufacturing companies

:mhm:

[olive sable]

egg manufacturing companies

[small anvil]

you might be onto something

[olive sable]

dont let her find out

keep her away from chicken

[small anvil]

what’s a chicken????

[sage crag]

speaking of how do my chickens get eggs from the egg manufacturing company

they cant drive

[tender river]

cant relate i dont like the taste of eggs might have something to do with the fact im vegetarian

[olive sable]

deliveroo

[sage crag]

i also dislike the flavour of eggs

they arent tasty, i lied

[olive sable]

ah

[tender river]

they simply cross the road

[olive sable]

actually made me laugh irl

[sage crag]

i also lied about egg manufacturing companies

[olive sable]

i should not be cackling at 4am

[sage crag]

[tender river]

konii the gambler

konii the deceiver

[desert plaza]

did big egg silence you

[small anvil]

me lurking in discord chats for two hours straight cause i cant sleep

[olive sable]

konii the eldritch

[sage crag]

if you get a witch hat and a broom

[tender river]

BROOM 💥

[sage crag]

not quite, try again

[olive sable]

then what?

[tender river]

BROOM 🧹

[sage crag]

correct

[sage crag]

you would probably look stupid

but try it

[olive sable]

uhhh

i have a broom somewhere

[sage crag]

i would hope so

[olive sable]

and im pretty sure there's a witch hat in the attick

[olive sable]

never use it tho

[small anvil]

it would be so cool to be able to fly

[olive sable]

plane

[small anvil]

and teleport

[small anvil]

nuh uh

[olive sable]

you can telepor,t just very very nearby

[small anvil]

i never thought of this

sometimes i wish my food would automatically make itself too

[desert plaza]

and a laundry spell

[small anvil]

exactly frickin this

[opaque sigil]

it works (copying a dp calculation is hard i guess)

[olive sable]

did you know when you move your arm, your arm actually goes in every single direction at the same time?
the action of the non-standart directions just cancel eachother out

[small anvil]

im going to call you a scientist from now on

[tender river]

its called slave labor uber

[olive sable]

get a wife or something idk

ig your mom counts

[small anvil]

we’re programmers remember

[olive sable]

i have a dream

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-lights-gif-8635402

[small anvil]

me too

[olive sable]

this is not unlimited balde works like damn

[opaque sigil]

these stack traces sure will take some getting used to

or ig function signatures

[small anvil]

what the frick is this

[sage crag]

stack trace

(or function signature)

[olive sable]

le function shit

[small anvil]

thank you koni

[sage crag]

welcome

[small anvil]

sometimes i wish i was a sandwich instead of a person mmmmmm how nice it would be to be a sandwich

ham sandwiches rock

[opaque sigil]

the expanded function signature of a mojo function

[sage crag]

its not that hard to become a sandwich

you just need an upscale loaf of bread

[olive sable]

>wants to be eaten

[small anvil]

[tender river]

you dont necessarily need to upscale it

[amber fractal]

This took too much work

[tender river]

you just need two slices

[sage crag]

i am actually not rapidly approaching your location at all

do not be afraid or wary

[tender river]

i believe you

[small anvil]

well i am in fact very afraid and wary

[sage crag]

i just told you not to do that

[olive sable]

i shoudl rapidly aproach igglies location sometime. it could be fun

[small anvil]

sowwy

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

he's american tho so i need to be carefull

the flag is on your house

[amber fractal]

True

[olive sable]

ill just go to a walmart for an equal playingfield

[small anvil]

days of studying how assembly works have reduced me into a single celled organism

[amber fractal]

there is one nearby 👍

[sage crag]

made of fire hddthr ss

[small anvil]

yes koni

[opaque sigil]

i just realised

mojo thinks i have a 5090 so it think there are way more resources available than there are

[midnight sigil]

she was

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

why tho?

[amber fractal]

[small anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-25423496

[opaque sigil]

because they didn't specify every gpu and they do actually have different limits

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

konii def seems like the type to run across the pacific ocean to hunt down iggly

[opaque sigil]

seems odd though

[sage crag]

i cannot run on water yet

[opaque sigil]

i only asked for the max block size

[small anvil]

yet…?

[sage crag]

yeah

[opaque sigil]

which according to mojo is 1024, the same value i just hardcoded instead

[olive sable]

brother you're a talking tv, just float above the ocean with the same magic

[small anvil]

when is the day where you will be able to

[sage crag]

that's nonsensical

[opaque sigil]

oh

i'm an idiot

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

maxThreadsPerBlock = ctx.device_info.max_registers_per_block

[olive sable]

sure i know what that is

[amber fractal]

She would definitely be able to (I am not being threatened)

[opaque sigil]

basically the number of variables you can have

the only thing that matters is

it's 65536 vs 1024

[tender river]

konii just ride a catamaran

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

who would win? a magic tv or a flock of domestic americans?

[small anvil]

magic tv for sure

[amber fractal]

I pull my ult, magazine I ordered before the event happened

[patent walrus]

i got home after a week so im behind a little but did you guys see notepad does markdown now

[small anvil]

wait are u fr

[olive sable]

i dont know what that means but welcome back vani

[small anvil]

no frickin way

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

md in notepad

[small anvil]

it’s this type of text

[tender river]

next they will add syntax highlighting, image support, lsp integration

[sage crag]

and then it will be 30% as good as kwrite

[amber fractal]

discord uses markdown almost entirely, no need to relearn

[small anvil]

notepad turning into the new vscode

[desert plaza]

[small anvil]

they shall be using notepad to code in the late 21st century

[midnight sigil]

oh wow

that's crazy

[olive sable]

i didnt know you could do that

[midnight sigil]

but I'm sticking to my best friend vscode portable

[olive sable]

does markdown support embeds?

[opaque sigil]

yknow what, my knapsack went from 27s to 17s

i'll take it

[amber fractal]

yeppers

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

just fix the lsp and i'm down

[desert plaza]

all my homies be coding in notepad

[tender river]

md supports arbitrary html but its up to the platform to allow it

[small anvil]

i can never betray them

[olive sable]

nowaying

[patent walrus]

next they will integrate the monaco editor https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/

[small anvil]

this is the future!!!

[olive sable]

so you can add html games to the md file?

[tender river]

notepad.exe using electron

[sage crag]

depends on the markdown flavour

[small anvil]

tauri,,,,,,,,,,,,

[sage crag]

lots of it is sanitised to not allow arbitrary html

[amber fractal]

:aintneurway:

[tender river]

notepad.exe using electron

[olive sable]

ahh damnit

[midnight sigil]

notepad is the windows version of vim now

[tender river]

more like windows version of ed

[midnight sigil]

imagine they add plugin supports for notepad lmao

[small anvil]

[desert plaza]

i wish i had homies

[midnight sigil]

the file loading speed of notepad is still slow af though

[small anvil]

they shall add api support with lua,,

[tender river]

new editor called btmc

[small anvil]

me too… me too

[sage crag]

best text modifying client

[tender river]

mhm

not to be confused with brain tumor megacolon cancer

[hoary lion]

what

[midnight sigil]

lua

[desert plaza]

u wanna be homies?

[small anvil]

well now i feel targeted cause that was my first thought

[small anvil]

yes

[desert plaza]

aight

[tender river]

any coincidences purely accidental

[sage crag]

any coincidences are purely coincidental

[small anvil]

guys i have been stalling sleep for the past 5 hours and now i see the sun

[sage crag]

mhm similar

[tender river]

any accidents are deliberate

[olive sable]

lua roblox.lang

[tender river]

and may happen if you push further on this name issue

[small anvil]

any mistakes were mistaken

[desert plaza]

morbidly relatable

[small anvil]

this is my daily life

im going to get home and then hit the floor snoozing

[tender river]

its 10am so im going to sleep soon too

[opaque sigil]

i wanted to go sleep 5 hours ago

[desert plaza]

i really do need to get to bed soon aswell

[amber fractal]

Calling out half the chat with this one

[tender river]

sleep is optional
disclaimer: this is not medical advice

[small anvil]

why don’t we just forget the disclaimer exists

[tender river]

because i'm getting sleepy

[desert plaza]

zzzz

[sage crag]

i dont need sleep i have water bottle

[small anvil]

was born to mimimi instead i am drinking monster and red bull at every hour

[amber fractal]

You have been diagnosed with the eepy condition

[tender river]

water

[sage crag]

fire

[opaque wharf]

Earth

[amber fractal]

Wind

[small anvil]

wind

double wind

[sage crag]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer

correct answer was water

[olive sable]

you cant have water twice

[amber fractal]

I sniped wind

[small anvil]

mmmmmm tasty water

[sage crag]

why

[olive sable]

cuz you're a tv

[tender river]

you actually can

let me demonstrate

[sage crag]

water twice is one water

many waters are one water

[olive sable]

dont get me started on this

i have spent literal 10's of hours debating things

[amber fractal]

Who are we drowning today?

[sage crag]

sam

[small anvil]

okay debater guy

[olive sable]

if you have more than 1 H2O, you have multiple waters

[desert plaza]

debating what? water logistics?

[olive sable]

yes

[amber fractal]

Sam

[small anvil]

b-b-but… waters is water

[olive sable]

water is wet

[sage crag]

water (molecule) is different from water (fluid) though

[olive sable]

i said it

[desert plaza]

water is not wet

[olive sable]

it is

[desert plaza]

but it is

[sage crag]

a single water molecule is not wet

[tender river]

we had a debate club in school but everyone had to go there for some reason despite it not being graded, once the teacher said something like "well if you don't want to be here you can just leave" worst mistake of her life

[desert plaza]

water wetness is a superposition

[tender river]

also i won chocolate by betting against that teacher twice

[olive sable]

H2O makes other things wet, but if you have 2 H2O's they make eachother wet

wait

phrasing

[sage crag]

this too is yuri

[amber fractal]

Very real

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

waytooyuri

[small anvil]

i agree

[sage crag]

awa

[desert plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-you-what-huh-gif-19676334

[olive sable]

[desert plaza]

[amber fractal]

yesh?

[olive sable]

its not my fault english is such a dirty language

[sage crag]

are you sure

[small anvil]

let’s all start speaking in machine code

[sage crag]

could be your fault

[small anvil]

that way all mistakes we make are on us

[olive sable]

when i spent hours debating this issue it was in dutch, where words dont have such double meanings

[sage crag]

your language could never support the fae ecosystem

[desert plaza]

ok, but in what architecture

[olive sable]

i dont even know what the fea is

[amber fractal]

bwaa

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Imagining 2 Dutch man arguing is even funnier ngl

[olive sable]

wdym?

[small anvil]

i386

[opaque wharf]

Idk, the language is just funny for me

[olive sable]

jij vuile teef

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[opaque wharf]

Who are you dribbling?

[olive sable]

proabbly me

[sage crag]

basket ball

[desert plaza]

1011100010000000?

[amber fractal]

I thought of the exact same thing

[midnight sigil]

0001011001101

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

does speaking in binary count as automod evasion

[small anvil]

00000000…

[olive sable]

i know exactly wher ethis came from

wiseposting fr fr

[midnight sigil]

[tender river]

it does if it evades automod

[opaque wharf]

Dang, sam is a meme lord

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

well crime isn't crime if no one charge you

[olive sable]

me when 00000000 - 00000001:

[small anvil]

[sage crag]

11111111

[olive sable]

ye but you underflowed

bad

[sage crag]

underflowing is based

[tender river]

good

[sage crag]

cheap and useful operators

saturating operators are boring and uncool

and operators that can panic should explode

[tender river]

try undefined behavior

• does what it wants
• doesnt care what you think
• may or may not make your entire program run a few orders of magnitude faster

[small anvil]

i strive to make my code like this

[sage crag]

thankfully overflowing operators are very well defined

[tender river]

but + in C isnt overflowing

[sage crag]

less black box than overloading operators

[sage crag]

all the more reason why no one should use c and they should use hblang instead

[small anvil]

hblang my beloved

[sage crag]

correct

[amber fractal]

hblang :ragey:

[desert plaza]

invalid instruction, message unclear

[small anvil]

add an eepy keyword that makes the program halt forever for no apparent reason

[tender river]

go uses hblang it has json deserializing what else could possibly want

https://git.ablecorp.eu/chayleaf/hblsp/src/branch/trunk/hbc-tests/parse-json.hb

[sage crag]

json parsing

banned

[tender river]

just you wait i'll also add serialization

[sage crag]

i want to write a serde clone at some point

i think its fairly easy in hblang

[olive sable]

its getting somewhere. i just need to add a window on the left

[amber fractal]

This house is ugly fr

[olive sable]

yep

[sage crag]

garage

[olive sable]

i cant believe you live there

[midnight sigil]

jmp $

[sage crag]

._start: jmp :_start

[olive sable]

i would flame for 3 garages but i myself have 3 garages and we still park cars infront too

[desert plaza]

that ain't machine code

[amber fractal]

[desert plaza]

anyone here ever written hello world in machine code?

[olive sable]

nope

[sage crag]

why would i do that

[olive sable]

sounds like suffering

[small anvil]

torture

[amber fractal]

The fun thing about this place, is that left side and right side are not the same house

[opaque wharf]

Z80

[sage crag]

assembly is directly translatable to machine code

[desert plaza]

but it's not machine code

[sage crag]

its a thin layer

[opaque wharf]

I've only write raw machine code for Z80 for my college assignment

[olive sable]

ah so thats why its painted diffrently

[opaque wharf]

Also designing the minimum system

[amber fractal]

yep, merged housing

[olive sable]

i have a friend who lives kinda like that, its not too uncommon here. but most of the time we just have a loglong row of connected houses

[desert plaza]

but can you tell me what this instruction does: 101110000001000000000000

it's x86

[sage crag]

is it just an instruction or is it opcode + operands

also is it packed or is it padded

[opaque wharf]

Let's assume a spherical cow in a vacuum

[sage crag]

moo

[small anvil]

11110100

[desert plaza]

it's a full instruction

[amber fractal]

Assume that the cow is a sphere for air dynamics calulations

[desert plaza]

F4?

[small anvil]

F4 yes

[tender river]

did you know you can do inheritance in hblang

A0 := fn(Self: type): type return struct {
    foo := fn(): u32 return 5
    bar := fn(): u32 return Self.foo() + 5
}
A := struct {
    foo := A0(A).foo
    bar := A0(A).bar
}
B := struct {
    foo := fn(): u32 return 10
    bar := A0(B).bar
}

[desert plaza]

i translated that binary to hexadecimal in my head

[tender river]

just a bit awkward without recursive types

[opaque wharf]

Or just use an actual cow shape

[small anvil]

are you going insane perchance

[olive sable]

always

[desert plaza]

perhaps

[small anvil]

[sage crag]

assuming the opcode is 8 bits, its the mov instruction, but honestly the opcode could mean multiple things

[sage crag]

just split the word in half and convert each nibble to a hex digit

[olive sable]

ah you typed word

i read world

just split the world apart

[desert plaza]

that's what i did

[sage crag]

[gritty dust]

lol same

[tender river]

a merge operator would help here, then you could write (in pseudo syntax)

A := A0(A) + struct { }
B := A0(B) + struct { foo := fn(): u32 return 10 }

[sage crag]

i in fact did know this

you could also automate this process with functions if we could get method info for structs but uh

[tender river]

extensible records but not extensible

[olive sable]

konii fr fr

[tender river]

[amber fractal]

average konii behavior

[small anvil]

average tuesday for konii

[sage crag]

its wednesday

optimal day

[small anvil]

i forget

[sage crag]

tuesday is too soggy

[small anvil]

sowwy

[amber fractal]

Can confirm

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-wednesday-wednesday-hump-day-gif-7217505363683747237

[sage crag]

frog

[olive sable]

holy fuck it is

[small anvil]

fog

[olive sable]

its wednesday

why

[small anvil]

because that’s how the world works

[sage crag]

the inevitable and inexorable march forward of time

[tender river]

[desert plaza]

wdym multiple things? it's a mov tho, you got that right :)

[opaque wharf]

The current day is only based on consensus

And I'd say today is sunday

[sage crag]

#programming is just a quirkier, edgier #general-network

[pulsar sun]

I'm stuck in the past it's still Tuesday

[small anvil]

actually it is 1754

and its a thursday

[olive sable]

#programming is just neurodivergent in the diffrent way

[small anvil]

at 7pm

[tender river]

the council has rejected your proposal better luck next time

[amber fractal]

Except for one chatter in terms of edgy, this is correct

[small anvil]

ah yes i too speak symbols

[olive sable]

who is the one chatter? the one true king of #programming ?

[opaque wharf]

@olive sable

[olive sable]

we all know im way too edgy for my own good

my pfp is literaly mt. edgelord

[amber fractal]

I meant there is one gen chatter that is more edgy still

[olive sable]

ahhh

who?

[small anvil]

☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️

[opaque wharf]

Normalize emoji in conversation

[olive sable]

never

we need emoticons

[pulsar sun]

:0

[olive sable]

╰(°▽°)╯╰(°▽°)╯ ☆*: .｡. o(≧▽≦)o .｡.:*☆

[amber fractal]

Some cat enthusiast, idk

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[hoary lion]

i feel extra kawaii today

wtf

[amber fractal]

I joke as I've been there for awhile

[olive sable]

ヾ(＠⌒ー⌒＠)ノ

[small anvil]

（＾ω＾）

[olive sable]

(￣y▽￣)╭ Ohohoho.....

[tender river]

konii this is not #general-network this is #swarm

[amber fractal]

No further truth has been said

I wait until a random mod walks in

[pulsar sun]

case "a": return "@"
case "b": return "<"
case "c": return ";"
case "d": return "("
case "e": return "£"
case "f": return "#"
case "g": return "¶"
case "h": return "&"
case "i": return "!"
case "j": return "i"
case "k": return "%"
case "l": return ">"
case "m": return "/"
case "n": return "]"
case "o": return "☺"
case "p": return ")"
case "q": return "©"
case "r": return "ǽ"
case "s": return "§"
case "t": return "↑"
case "u": return "♫"
case "v": return "▼"
case "w": return "♥"
case "x": return "-"
case "y": return "^"
case "z": return "~"
case " ": return "�"
case "1": return "7"
case "2": return "1"
case "3": return "2"
case "4": return "8"
case "5": return "9"
case "6": return "0"
case "7": return "3"
case "8": return "5"
case "9": return "4"
case "0": return "6"
case "?": return "¿"
case ".": return "☼"
case "!": return "$"
case _:
return letter

[amber fractal]

it's going to be funny

[desert plaza]

wtf

[pulsar sun]

37 is 23

Why did everyone stop talking?

...hello?

[desert plaza]

guys, are yall machine code haters or what

[desert plaza]

hello

[pulsar sun]

from TextEncryption import *
from customtkinter import *
import keyboard

log = []

def textencryption():
text = textbox.get("1.0", "end-1c")
if text and text[0] == "♣":
result = decrypt_string(text)
else:
result = encrypt_string(text)
result = result.title()
textbox1.delete("1.0", "end")
textbox1.insert("1.0", result)
log.append(result + '\n')
textbox2.delete("1.0", "end")
textbox2.insert("1.0", ''.join(log))

def poll_key():
if keyboard.is_pressed('end'):
textencryption()
app.after(100, poll_key) # Check every 100 ms

app = CTk()
app.geometry("400x400")
app.title("Text Encryption")

textbox = CTkTextbox(app, width=300, height=150)
textbox.place(relx=.3, rely=0.5)
textbox1 = CTkTextbox(app, width=300, height=150)
textbox1.place(relx=.5, rely=0.5)
textbox2 = CTkTextbox(app, width=300, height=500)
textbox2.place(relx=.05, rely=0.05)
poll_key() # Start polling for key press

app.mainloop()

[small anvil]

flashbanged with code

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

im slavign away on blender

[small anvil]

slaving away on mimimimi simulator

cant seem to start the game though…

[midnight sigil]

11101001101

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/going-to-bed-bed-sleeping-going-to-sleep-gc-gif-21553564

[small anvil]

this is NOT relatable in ANY sort of way

[safe path]

how come this chat became #general-network

[olive sable]

rename it to #screeps

[small anvil]

evolution

[safe path]

i curse this chat to write 4 lines of haskell every 2 messages

[unkempt citrus]

has it not awlays been

[olive sable]

idk what haskell even is

[small anvil]

[desert plaza]

what about machine code instead

[unkempt citrus]

am I allowed to redeem past haskell?

[tender river]

there are no lines so you'd have to write an infinite amount of code

[desert plaza]

is that real, you've got an odd number of bits there

[unkempt citrus]

I feel like theres been an abcense of screeps lately

[midnight sigil]

it's E9 05

my bad I don't know how to write in machine code

[safe path]

@pulsar sun even if you gave the decryption script for your symbols, don't spam the symbols in this chat. english (plaintext) only :)

[midnight sigil]

[hoary lion]

[amber fractal]

 ▲◝ ◜▲
  ◓▰◓
 ┗   ┛╲
▰   ▰ ╲      

I was bored

[hoary lion]

do functional programming

[olive sable]

if i moddeled my own house i would have been done in 20min. iggly why does your house have so much useless geometry?

[amber fractal]

On PC:
On mobile:

[desert plaza]

if it's E9 05, then why did you say 74D

also what's E9 05?

[tender river]

random thought, if allocation is an effect then stack frame allocation is an effect too since it can fail (stack overflow or for continuations heap allocation failure) and since it can require an actual allocator (for continuations)

[amber fractal]

I have no idea why

[tender river]

another random idea, languages should make it so not sequencing code is easier than sequencing it (kinda like let vs let mut but in the context of monad vs applicative)

[amber fractal]

before I close out of the unicode tab, nice layering 👍

[safe path]

[safe path]

i dunno, even though it's a pain in the ass to sequence things, it's much easier to reason with once written

i happen to enjoy pain

[olive sable]

masochist

confirmed

[tender river]

imo a good language will not let you parallelize unparallelizable things too

[hoary lion]

chill

[tender river]

have you seen https://github.com/iu-parfunc/lvars

deterministic concurrency

[amber fractal]

every linux power user:

[olive sable]

texturing will be for another day cuz damn im getting sick of american housing and i dont even live there

[safe path]

no,

[olive sable]

neverming i have to do all the other buildings too still

[amber fractal]

Hm yes, cubes

[tender river]

basically, imo whenever you would have a &mut in rust you must explicitly sequence these operations (but potentially with something like forkable &mut IO or whatever for making sure its always done intentionally)

[olive sable]

i aint doing interior for any of these. openworld does not mean entering the godforsaken buildings

[amber fractal]

hard agree

[tender river]

but when you don't have &mut the sane default should be to just parallelize it

or rather, not express any dependencies

[safe path]

yeah ok that i can agree

[hoary lion]

extra pink for more kawaii

[olive sable]

(/≧▽≦)/(/≧▽≦)/

[midnight sigil]

jmp to 0x5, which is the first line

and the only line

[hoary lion]

time to set up some training script for my first alpha speech tokenizer

[desert plaza]

ok, but what's 74D tho?

that's what u said

[midnight sigil]

I don't know how to write in machine code I said

[gritty dust]

gn ima go eep

[midnight sigil]

it's random stuff

[midnight sigil]

gn

[gritty dust]

thanks

[desert plaza]

gn

what

[desert plaza]

gn

[sage crag]

counterpoint, race conditions and simultaneous access are based

how will you truamatise young devs without race conditions

[olive sable]

i like simultanious acces, i dont like race conditions tho

[midnight sigil]

[sage crag]

they are the same

[olive sable]

no no no

[tender river]

they can make race conditions themselves with non-atomic swaps

[olive sable]

simultanious acces does not mean you're racing

do you mean acces as a write?

[sage crag]

only if you work under the assumption that both operations are readonly

[olive sable]

i was

[sage crag]

which, even reading isnt guaranteed to be

[tender river]

if a.load(Ordering::SeqCst) {
   a.store(false, Ordering::SeqCst);
}

just that easy

[olive sable]

what have you just put there? it disgusts me

[sage crag]

if a { a = false } (but atomic)

[desert plaza]

sry discord replying iz hard

[tender river]

but not atomic

[sage crag]

because seqcst

[tender river]

no its faux atomic

[olive sable]

but..
noooo

[tender river]

because i first load and then store

rather than compare exchange

so its not atomic

despite using atomic stores and loads

[olive sable]

vulkan luckily has semaphores and fences

[sage crag]

how will i write my mutex primitive if i dont remember compare-exchange

[tender river]

the correct way is

a.compare_exchange(false, true, Ordering::SeqCst, Ordering::SeqCst);

[sage crag]

[tender river]

you dont even have atomics

[sage crag]

i will invent

[tender river]

there is a way for two threads

but for N threads you're gonna combust

[sage crag]

just need to figure out how to do atomics in ableos without assigning an ipc buffer to each one

wondering how most microkernels do atomics

userspace or in kernel

[tender river]

they would... just use the cpu's atomic operations, but for shared resources probably kernel hm

[sage crag]

good point

would probably be a kernel service

[tender river]

its either shared memory with both pinky promising to use atomics

[olive sable]

all this talk baout atomics

[tender river]

or kernel service

[sage crag]

like allocation

[tender river]

or just some service giving out resources

[sage crag]

hum

doubtful there will be an ergonomic way to use lock prefixed instructions in hblang for a long time

maybe i should use kernel futexes on linux

but then again i could also make a nasm shim

but also thats weird and annoying

[tender river]

oh yeah i have 3 open lily prs

[sage crag]

um

oopsy

[tender river]

its ok

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/marcoelprro-gif-27525382

will program today

have researched thoroughly

[tender river]

go sleep first

[sage crag]

have been lazy

[sage crag]

6am

[tender river]

go sleep first

[sage crag]

possibly

[olive sable]

i agree

dont mind me being in the same timezone

[tender river]

dont mind me being 7 hours ahead of you

[olive sable]

did you not wake up?

[tender river]

i'm still sleeping actually

[sage crag]

i vant read

[olive sable]

cant balme you i woke up at 6pm yesterday

[sage crag]

a cpeaning mu glasses

[olive sable]

cpeaning

[desert plaza]

what

[sage crag]

is that you sam

[olive sable]

sometimes

it depends

[sage crag]

my vision is grealy impaired

[olive sable]

ohohhhhh

[sage crag]

ehat did you say?

[olive sable]

konii wears glasses confirmed