programming

[woven viper]

not my coworker pushing literally 8 commits in the past half hour to the MR i'm actively reviewing (and squashing the commits and force pushing so i cant even see the history). why is bro making so many commits i dont get it.

guy is hammering our poor ci/cd runners

29 commits for a +349 -3 diff is NASTY work

[rough bloom]

I get doing small commits, but at least push them only once
ideally before asking for review too

[glass flower]

it was decaying. you first need to remove the decay/downgrade ticks before it will upgrade

[olive sable]

Isnt it always decaying?

[raw trout]

helo! back from aniexpo fueled with crazy ideas for tech while I can barely code

Time to get on it

[glass flower]

well.. not if you are upgrading it.

[desert plaza]

what kind of crazy ideas

[tender river]

nooooo i forgot to buy tofu before cooking and now its 11pm

hmm the store is a 30m walk maybe i should do it

[desert plaza]

is it still open at 11pm lol

[tender river]

the one thats a 30m walk away is

the one thats a 1m walk away isnt

oh i have an idea i'll just cook a different meal

the only problem is i have unfrozen some mushrooms uuh surely they can wait until tomorrow in the fridge

[desert plaza]

surely

[glass flower]

rip my test external miners...

[olive sable]

Plane

Time for the vulkan docs

[raw trout]

I wanna do some ir video/image training and have that mounted on a helmet.

I dun know nothin' about AI, ML, barely any python, and jack about hardware

Guess the best time to start is now than ever

[desert plaza]

damn that's crazy

[raw trout]

I'm sure it'll be fun

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile me just training my silly vocal synthesizer

[scarlet arch]

Is this channel for hardware not related to computers as well? I mean I could just say I'm also automating stuff but kinda not the main part

Sam is posting planes. I feel like this is fair game :P

My ants are getting a new rain pump

Nearly 7 bars of pressure to drive those fine mist nozzles

Just waiting for the power supply :D

[raw trout]

yeye hardware is allowed here

[scarlet arch]

This is more wetware though

I'll see myself out

[raw trout]

Hoping I can get more into the tech stuff instead of doomscrolling social media with nothing to show

[nocturne olive]

How to cool an RTX 3090:

[scarlet arch]

[raw trout]

Hopefully my 2080 will handle anything I'll throw at it for the time being. Summer GPU usage is pain lol

[nocturne olive]

I need my 3090 running at full speed to train NeuroSynth right now

I got the whole 3090 I'm gonna use the whole 3090

[rare bridge]

OH SHIT

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING TOWER

[sage crag]

upgrader
upgradeController
none

[rare bridge]

that's meant to be i think the upgrader creep at the top of the screenshot

[scarlet arch]

I like the use of emoji

Very cute

🚚 logistics

[rare bridge]

he's on his way

[scarlet arch]

Go little guy!

[austere forge]

You made a Chatbot?

[rare bridge]

anyway, first invader raid

only took

[austere forge]

Eha

[stoic ruin]

hey, can i share pictures of my music app? I wanted to get your guys opinion since i'm not sure what to add now

[austere forge]

Sure go a head

Pass the head

[stoic ruin]

awesome!

can i upload pictures in this channel? or should i go to another one to upload them

[tender river]

mrow

[cosmic sphinx]

sundar casually coming in with "nice new toy ya'll have, not that it's gonna be outdated in a few days when we release ours"

surely gemini 3 pro soon

[sage crag]

[tender river]

you tricked me

you started with an unreasonable demand (eat neuro)

to make me reach for a compromise

now i have no star

[sage crag]

you ate star of your own volition

[tender river]

[tender river]

[real sierra]

how are screeps

[olive sable]

Im alive

Landed safely

[real sierra]

the software on aircraft is probably super impressive

the error handling must be master class

given the operating conditions it must survive

[nocturne olive]

My 3090 just finished training a new NeuroSynth

[olive sable]

Now all of #programming will be subjected to me and my c++ crimes again

[real sierra]

not screeps

[tender river]

misra c is generally used, there are also rules like always using a fixed number of iterations in loops, using some special values for booleans to ensure bit flips wont break them, etc (some of it may not be applicable that's just what i've heard)

[real sierra]

[tender river]

a

[olive sable]

Yall were already subjected to my screeps, and i will screep again

[real sierra]

still waiting for byter's phermone screeps

[tender river]

some nasa rules https://pixelscommander.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/P10.pdf

• no goto or recursion
• no loops without a forced upper limit on iteration count
• no malloc/free after initialization
• no super long functions
• an average of 2 no-side-effect error checks per functions with some recovery actions
• prefer defining everything in the smallest scope possible
• functions always validate parameters, non-void returns are never ignored
• use as little metaprogramming as possible (this simplifies static analysis and limits the amount of possible ways the code can be compiled)
• only one level of pointer indirection, no function pointers, no typedefs or macros for pointers
• enable all warnings, use lots of static analyzers

it seems that bit flips are not accounted for that much, which makes sense honestly its probably easier to just shield the computers or make them using radiation-resistant components

[olive sable]

Im at like page 160/240 on the vulkan docs now

Or well, not docs but that pdf file ive sent before

Anyways, im on vertex buffers now

Transfering data from RAM to VRAM

[raw trout]

I made the mistake of 'trying' to learn C++ as my first language and quit out of me dumdum brain not understanding what was going on

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

Man my brain did not function correctly, I thought this message and the others had opposite owners

[tender river]

i've been known to be opposite

[amber fractal]

[tender river]

oh contracts got into c++26 https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/contracts.html

classic

[stark needle]

💀💀💀💀

[olive sable]

What even is a contract?

[uneven pulsar]

anyone miss the good old times when we hated space

[tender river]

why does cppreference have this

[olive sable]

Oh thats what they are

The link explains it

[olive sable]

Did we hate space?

[amber fractal]

[stark needle]

niuh

[sage crag]

meow := struct{}

[primal siren]

I turned my cooler in the right way, and cleaned my whole computer.

Dot green apeared o.o

Ya better be just corrupted.

1 ddu later and its clean

[stoic ruin]

so uh, about this question

[rare bridge]

@real sierra i almost got absolutely murdered by an invader earlier today, but i also figured out the bug with my tower

stupid simple bug too

is this enough upgraders

[tender river]

no

i expect you to triple it by tomorrow

[rare bridge]

i can triple it now

nvm my room is in defending now

cos another one spawned

THE TOWER WORKING IS SO OP

that invader died INSTANTLY

it's spawning so many defenders

[olive sable]

I hurt my arm bwaa

Anyways phone is in charger so screeps on tablet now

[amber fractal]

bwaa

[olive sable]

Steam down? Can't log in

[amber fractal]

So this is how I learn the MS teams package for nix is only for dawrin systems.

Go go gadget win11 VM

[olive sable]

??????

Bro I can't log in, this is not the moment

Diagnosis, internet hotel bad

😞

[nocturne olive]

NeuroSynth 3090 edition or whatever

[rare bridge]

??????

[olive sable]

Idk lol

Huh

Managed to log in but...

Like wdym????

[rare bridge]

what the...

[olive sable]

Oh it's a steam issue

[rare bridge]

steam

steam

[olive sable]

I logged into the game via stem but I'm also not connected to steam

So I'm not getting my 20 CPU from buying the game

[olive sable]

Oh that explains why I couldn't log in via password and had to use the app

[amber fractal]

Crunchy

[rare bridge]

i think my steam is working fine since i actually have the game itself open

[olive sable]

Going back to ff on tablet they immediately opened the payment page

[tender river]

nrp

[olive sable]

It's fixed

[rare bridge]

[olive sable]

Screeps on tablet seems to be good 👍

Its only fucked on phone

Only problem is unable to scroll through the code without desktop mode

And also the selecting overlapping objects

[nocturne olive]

Model train time: around 8 hours (previous model: 30 hours)

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/nixos-unstable/pkgs/by-name/te/teams-for-linux/package.nix#L126

[nocturne olive]

Effective batch sizes: 24, 64 (before: 12, 24)

[opaque sigil]

oh i guess this one is unofficial

[amber fractal]

It's good enough

[opaque sigil]

there is an official linux client isn't there

[amber fractal]

nix-shell -p teams is the offical one, and got a platform error on it

so idk

[opaque sigil]

yeah that one is darwin only for some reason

[tender river]

its always fun when you open a paper without looking at the year and are met with this font

[rare bridge]

[olive sable]

Yep

[rare bridge]

bro just spawned and is questioning life decisions

[olive sable]

Understandable

[tender river]

at first i thought first-class polymorphism is undesirable because it doesn't make sense to return a function that can be called with different types in a low-level language (as it would require vtables and such), but then i realized it can be statically analyzed in a lot of cases and there are many cases where it's useful, so now i'm going back to subtyping... this means it's erf 1.0 time (but i'll scrap my old questionable pattern matching and focus on figuring out compilation before doing any more complex extensions)

[olive sable]

I'm in 6 mutual servers with cloud now lmao

[real sierra]

I'm home now

[amber fractal]

Screeps

[olive sable]

Its too late to try to understand what chay Is saying

[amber fractal]

Types mhm

[olive sable]

Shiro my screeps are upgrading

[real sierra]

Time to check on my screeps

I said that but I can't seem to get out of bed now

this bed is comfortable (I'll stay)

[jagged turtle]

❌

[olive sable]

Imma go to bed too

Goodnight everyone 💤💤💤

Playing screeps like this is good for seeing but bad for actual coding

I wonder if I could get wallpaper engine screeps integration

Aight bye

[rare bridge]

they seem fine from what i can tell

[amber fractal]

Mabe https://github.com/torchgm/ActiveDesktopPlus

[real sierra]

looks like my builders in E37N39 are still hard at work

i am asking a lot of them with only one source

and an underleveled miner for it

oh thank god

you know.

i know i said make a road to each rampart but

i didnt intend for it to be done Through the wall

and i destroyed the wall instead of the road

wtf brain

[rare bridge]

[real sierra]

bug definitely fixed tho

this is gonna take ages to fully construct

i applaud the dedication of my builders

the bottleneck is resource collection

but theres no way thats getting resolved

we cant even fill one extension with all the builders vulturing it for walls

pro tip for withdrawing btw

if you ever do math to calculate an amount

ensure the minimum drawn is 1

[rare bridge]

me when i withdraw -5

[real sierra]

because if you pass 0, you wont trigger ERR_FULL even if you are at max capacity

[rare bridge]

also i kinda want to go pillage resources from the neutral room next to me

but unfortunatly, invaders

and i think i have to destroy the invader core to deal with it

also my code just.. isn't set up right for multi-room operations

[real sierra]

yea uhh

[rare bridge]

i might start over from scratch with my codebase

[real sierra]

why

you seemed so confident in this approach

its so neat and organized

brain please

i wanted Google maps

not Game.map

screeps actually hindering my daily functions

[rare bridge]

it's organised, sure

but the organisation is the problem here

room -> spawn -> creeps

means that running logistic creeps to send energy back to the main area might be a problem

[real sierra]

not me just learning you can pop the screeps console into a separate window

[rare bridge]

actually.. it might be fine

[real sierra]

but uh

taking out that invader stronghold

[amber fractal]

Speaking of google maps, it doesn't work on my phone still. Redirect loop I'm 90% sure

[real sierra]

seems nearly impossible

[rare bridge]

esp since i don't actually have any invading code

[real sierra]

even if you did

4 turrets?

[rare bridge]

it leaves in 22990 ticks

so that's... assuming each tick remains at 3s per tick

[real sierra]

and even if we ignored the 4 creeps along the perimeter

the 4 boosted creeps in the stronghold

insane dps

and even if we ignored that too

the entire stronghold is covered in 1 million hp ramparts

[rare bridge]

so that'd be.. 68,970 seconds (????)

[real sierra]

give or take yea

[rare bridge]

oh only 19 hours

[real sierra]

im not entirely sure if "leave" means

"vanish"

or

"relocate"

or

"upgrade"

[rare bridge]

and receives EFFECT_COLLAPSE_TIMER which will remove the stronghold when this timer is over.

[real sierra]

sure

but i feel like

[amber fractal]

jank my beloved

[real sierra]

if i was to pick a time duration for that

i would set it to however long until the next stronghold appears

[rare bridge]

same...

oh well

won't have to deal with that tomorrow then, means i can write code to let my creeps expand into that area

eventually i can replace logistics "collectFromMiners" with links

[real sierra]

ive been mulling over expansion a lot

i think i need a new abstraction above rooms

call it a sector or something

where each sector is characterized by one claimed room that serves as a headquarters and meets the staffing needs of the sector

and the other rooms are collected from to increase income

then creep duties would be tied to sectors instead of rooms

[rare bridge]

i had that idea too

[real sierra]

i dont think you need to worry as much about panda

could be my eyes deceiving me

but they look like they placed a lot of stuff manually

[rare bridge]

their turret is the problem

they have "kill on sight" programming

[real sierra]

how do you know

[rare bridge]

i manually moved a creep into that room a few days ago

[real sierra]

well if you're manually ordering units

i think theres a pretty doable solution

[rare bridge]

i manually ordered a single unit because i didn't want to write code just to check their defences

to invade them i'd have to build invasion code

[real sierra]

just make one creep with a few healing parts

and another that is like

1 move 49 tough

have the meat shield walk in until they're almost ded

then walk back to your room

and get healed

eventually you'll exhaust the turrets' energy

[rare bridge]

true

i need invasion code at some point anyway

i wanna secure an energy surplus first

so i plan to take the room to my left, i can't claim it cos there's no room controller tho... unless the source keepers are hiding it somehow

[real sierra]

well now i know for sure

invaders can show up in neutral rooms

[rare bridge]

me when i invade your room and just dismantle your shit

[north grove]

so working with the neuro api

I add an action with multiple options based on objects in the world

so I send register it with an enum of each object

if one of them changes, do I have to then re-register thw command with all the options

or would neuro be able/ smart enough to chose an unlisted option if I just send an "[option] is now avaliable" message

[sick owl]

So I was just having a network wide blackout because of issues with my DHCP server

The culprit

A HP printer

For some godforsaken reason it wasn't negotiating properly

[amber fractal]

I want to say it is checked/validated on her side as well so you'll still need to add it

I'd ask in https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1336984506489376779 for any questions regarding to it in particular

[rare bridge]

average hp printer experience

anyway i can only make 3 terminals

[north grove]

randy documentation says ```Randy will just pick random actions and will not simulate some behaviors that Neuro could do including:

sending actions with invalid data``` so I think not

but I'll go ask in that thread thx

[sick owl]

Listed under the same MAC address in my DHCP server

Like wtf??

One is a Roku streaming stick the other is a HP printer

[stark needle]

[austere forge]

Wha

[tulip ermine]

Can someone make me a Roblox lookatplayer script 😭 I don't wanna ask chatGpt

[gritty dust]

no

[tulip ermine]

[austere forge]

Fuck media_store

Weird ass algorithm

[brisk laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1308473002819715153/smolEmbedNwero.gif

[brisk laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-neuro-sama-gif-11499204033432984688

[amber fractal]

Also frick .DS_STORE
no reason for it to exist

[fast pagoda]

wandows has them too

theyre just not only hidden but TURBO hidden

[fast pagoda]

the protected operating system files in folders in windows that have their own unhide checkbox is all i mean

[faint sandal]

idk what you're trying to say

[fast pagoda]

iggly was saying .DS_STORE has no reason to exists

i was referencing that windows also has a similar thing

[faint sandal]

the closest you're thinking of is desktop.ini

which by default doesn't really exist unless you customize the folder

[fast pagoda]

i was thinking of both that and also stuff like ntuser.dat, symlinks/junction in the user folder, windows search index files

[faint sandal]

they're nowhere close to DS_STORE

[fast pagoda]

not the same of course but a similar concept but yes ds store is way more frequent

desktop.ini is by far the closest of them

and not even a similar concept by that i mean

literally

hidden file with metadata

[faint sandal]

.DS_STORE is just a regular hidden file similar to dot files on Linux afaik

[fast pagoda]

yeah

we just see it on wandows if it gets created because windows doesnt care about it

[faint sandal]

what you're referring to aren't regular hidden files

they're +S

the closer hidden file to regular hidden file is +H

they're not mutually exclusive either

[amber fractal]

IIRC .DS_STORE is used on OSX for positions of files within a folder. Like how it isn't strictly grid lined.

[fast pagoda]

i thought it was just metadata in general

[amber fractal]

It is a regular hidden file, meaning it needs to be ignored by git and other tools.

[fast pagoda]

git loves picking it up

in windows

because windows doesnt care

and doesnt treat it as hidden ig

[amber fractal]

windows doesn't have name based hidden so that checks out

[fast pagoda]

for some reason i thought . appended files were hidden by default but i guess not, just checked for sanity

i have dementia

[dry charm]

.DS_STORE is the first thing should be added to gitignore if you know someone works on it on a mac

[olive sable]

Im alive

[amber fractal]

[glass flower]

for now

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

Ill finally be home from vacatio in 3 hours

Il at a hotel near the airport rn cuz the train home didnt run that late

[amber fractal]

Freedom

[fast pagoda]

welcome back sam

[opaque wharf]

Same, just not a vacation for me

[olive sable]

Well balanced meal

[amber fractal]

I see no issues here, my parents have given me worse

This one is at least balenced

[wet oyster]

Cursed flavor combination

[olive sable]

Its literally the only breakfast ive had in months

[tender river]

technically theres also thumbs.db

[faint sandal]

yea but i don't even know what triggers thumbs.db creation anymore

[sage crag]

who wants to be rewritten in javascript

i will do it for free

[tender river]

i have a suspicion i already am

you can check

[amber fractal]

[sage crag]

i do not need to check

can confirm

[sage crag]

javascript a person

mm nuro should sing BIRDBRAIN

[amber fractal]

It is time for my to be molded into my worst form

[sage crag]

awa

[amber fractal]

I am so cooked now

[olive sable]

🙋‍♂️

[tender river]

ok youtube guess i'm not watching anything today

i always liked the phrasing "this helps protect our community"

[olive sable]

The community is already fucked lmao

[tender river]

poor struggling google community

[amber fractal]

"the community" is your back pocket filled with infinite cash

[tender river]

[object Object]

[hoary lion]

peak mentioned

[sage crag]

i knew it

[hoary lion]

[sage crag]

unhandled exception in chayleaf console

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[stray dragon]

they really just ignoring the actual bots with accounts then

(the only ones that do anything)

[tender river]

this was done to fight downloaders not comment spam

[stray dragon]

ah

more cost cutting hooray

[noble zodiac]

I have to throw my lisp into the bin and start anew

[tender river]

[noble zodiac]

total heap usage: 5,547,293 allocs, 5,546,542 frees, 311,415,450 bytes allocated

peak efficiency

since everything has to go through the environment it just causes a metric ton of tiny heap allocations

[opaque wharf]

Wtf are you doing man?

[wet oyster]

Nowadays almost under all youtube videos you can find a top liked comment which has a link to pron in bio

Or even worse

[olive sable]

-# your mother

[stray dragon]

i check comments for every video and those are rare to see as top comments

[wet oyster]

I see them quite often as top comments, literally the first ones

[stray dragon]

if i scroll to the bottom i see them sometimes

it's not common at all though

[olive sable]

Ill get of the last train in 5 min

Just need to drive home then

[tender river]

@real sierra i have an important question

are you signed or unsigned

[olive sable]

Im home

my monitors feel so huge now that i got used to a laptop screen

aight im installing screeps and going after new shoes now

[jagged turtle]

me pls

i would like to be ran on the web and jank

[tender river]

bad idea

shiro might kidnap you into his screeps code

[glass flower]

join us

[opaque wharf]

If that was the case, then even rust is not safe

[olive sable]

New shoes have been acuared

Aquired?

[rough bloom]

acquired

[olive sable]

Shit word

[opaque wharf]

Aquarius

Actuaries

[olive sable]

I speln't

Now i need to get home asap for screeps

[opaque wharf]

I need to sleep first

[real sierra]

I have two sign bits for when I'm feeling extra negative

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

my brain is so cooked

my alarm presented me with the buttons "Snooze" and "Stop"

somehow I read them as "Schoolzone" and "Shop"

and I was so confused for a solid minute or two why I was picking a damn destination

almost concluded that I was still asleep and simply dreaming

[cobalt sigil]

announcement from revanced

[real sierra]

[]

[jagged turtle]

hey guys did you see the new (empty array) announcement?

[cobalt sigil]

it seems all revanced user have this issue

[olive sable]

im at my desktop

forgot how fast a pc is supposed to be

my laptop could not keep up lmao

[real sierra]

now you can play screeps

[olive sable]

yep

look at them

[opaque wharf]

Having a good gear does not make a better gamer. Especially true for screeps

[faint sandal]

that's.... Not what I meant

[scarlet arch]

Are those walls?

[olive sable]

yes

[scarlet arch]

How did you determine where to build them?

[olive sable]

i placed them manually lol

[jagged turtle]

what

[tender river]

doesnt help that its not even a widely known enough format to get a wikipedia page

[jagged turtle]

is that

[scarlet arch]

Oh I didn't know that's a thing :D

I thought everything is automated in Screeps

[olive sable]

Im fixing my brothers old laptop now to give to my sister tho

[olive sable]

Buildings can be placed manually

[scarlet arch]

Oh neat

[faint sandal]

it's actually well known enough that it got it every time I asked before

just... not today

[opaque wharf]

Now I am tempted to buy another portable monitor just to have 3 monitor setup on the go

Scratch that. I need 4 monitors. 1 for editor, 1 for hot reloaded app, 1 for docs, and 1 for communication

[tender river]

as useful as that is, what happens when you shift them right?

[stable fractal]

from re import match

num = int(input("Enter a number: "))
print(f"{num} is a prime number" if match(r"^.?$|^(..+?)\1+$", "1"*num) == False else f"{num} is not a prime" )

dear #programming, please make this effecient/smaller without using ai.

[real sierra]

we do not shift right in this household

[tender river]

shr

[olive sable]

install rust

[rough bloom]

-1 byte

from re import match
num = int(input("Enter a number: "))
print(f"{num} is a prime number" if match(r"^.?$|^(..+?)\1+$", "1"*num) == False else f"{num} is not a prime" )

[stable fractal]

ok i should've seen that coming

well done

edge case i missed

[real sierra]

there's a whole == False in there and you go for the whitespace optimization?

[stable fractal]

oh ye

nice

[tender river]

gotta start with what really count

[real sierra]

but yes

[stable fractal]

i can just do not

lemme try it

[unkempt citrus]

from re import match

num = int(input("Enter a number: "))
s = ""
if match(r"^.?$|^(..+?)\1+$", "1"*num):
    s = "not "
print(f"{num} is {s}a prime number")

16 less characters

[stable fractal]

oh well done mate

[real sierra]

well if we're already going this route

[stable fractal]

imma use the time command with the input of 104729

[stable fractal]

don't use a lib to do it

i think you'll use a lib

[unkempt citrus]

You could also save 4 characters by renaming num

[stable fractal]

is_prime(n)

[stable fractal]

ye

[unkempt citrus]

6 actually

[stable fractal]

but would that make it effecient?

[real sierra]

from re import match

num = int(input("Enter a number: "))
print(f'{num} is {"not " if match(r"^.?$|^(..+?)\1+$", "1"*num) else ""}a prime number')

[unkempt citrus]

no but neither did mine

[stable fractal]

oh thats nice

[olive sable]

damn this laptop screen had 2 enormous adhesive pull tabs

really nice

[glass flower]

what if the user inputs not a number and something like "bwaa"

[unkempt citrus]

it throws an error

[real sierra]

then the user is stupid

and doesn't deserve a working program

[unkempt citrus]

i mean baa could be a hex

[glass flower]

does it? i thought it would just say NAN

[real sierra]

nor an error message

[stable fractal]

ok so with my original code

[glass flower]

what if the user inputs a very large number? like "654986645196541674183361436814683418641546413641817463814864687481784186718486741687684164684163848646834864684618171484158546816"

[real sierra]

still works

your memory just aches

that's not even that large of a number

[glass flower]

would it? isn't int a 32bit integer?

[unkempt citrus]

depends on the math implementaiton no?

[stable fractal]

your code

[real sierra]

surely python just uses string integer representation under the hood at some point

[stable fractal]

i can't read

[unkempt citrus]

Yeah overflow

[stable fractal]

is it better?

[glass flower]

he is using us to improve his leetcode code

(idk what that screenshot is from)

[stable fractal]

lmao

[real sierra]

my suggestion was ironic and was not meant to provide any substantial speedup

[stable fractal]

[rough bloom]

I have a feeling that this is larger than a 64-bit integer, so an allocation large enough for this number can't exist
(because of this: "1"*num)

[stable fractal]

ok but what if you try really hard

i think you can beat me

(i 100% believe it)

[glass flower]

is the regex even the best way to do prime number searching?

[stable fractal]

no

[glass flower]

the regex is likely your bottleneck

also using python

[stable fractal]

yes

[glass flower]

maybe even converting it into a int causes overhead

[real sierra]

yeah I would suggest some other method for prime finding if you want speed

[glass flower]

just use the input directly

[stable fractal]

imma ask my local ai

[real sierra]

that would be much worse

the regex technique here relies on transforming something like "5" into "11111"

[stable fractal]

n = int(input("Number? "))
print(f"{n} is{' not' if n<2 or any(n%i==0 for i in range(2,int(n**0.5)+1)) else ''} a prime number.")

[stable fractal]

thats faster

[real sierra]

that's pretty hard to do without turning it into a number

[real sierra]

makes sense

[stable fractal]

ye i saw it on stand up maths vid

pretty good vid

[stable fractal]

it also has checks

because what if the number is negative

[real sierra]

if the user is checking whether a negative is prime or not

they are stupid and deserve errors

don't use tools you don't understand

shrimple as

[unkempt citrus]

or theyre qa

[stable fractal]

ai code

[stable fractal]

that reminds me of a joke

[unkempt citrus]

yes the toilet joke

[real sierra]

yeah that's what I said

[stable fractal]

yeah the bar

[stable fractal]

lmao

qa are stupid

[glass flower]

a programmer goes to a bar and orders -1 beer. the bar burns down

[real sierra]

how can a bar operate if it can't sell NaN beers?

simply impossible

must scrap the entire thing and start again

Time to check on my screeps

[stable fractal]

programmer opens a bar, qa tries to order 5 beers, 0 beers, a lizard, 2^32-1 beers and -69 beers................user comes in, asks where the toilet is, bar burns down.

[glass flower]

oh right.. that was the full version

its been probably like 10 years since i last heard that joke...

[stable fractal]

its not accurate since i don't remember

i just remember the structure

[glass flower]

but its atleast closer than what i had

[stable fractal]

lol

its my fav programming joke

[real sierra]

my screeps are alive and well

[stable fractal]

what are screeps?

[real sierra]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/464350/Screeps_World/

Steam

Screeps: World

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Your colony can harvest resources, build units, conquer territory, trade with other colonies.…

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

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[olive sable]

code orange

[real sierra]

a bunch of us in this channel have been playing this

[olive sable]

new screeps players

[real sierra]

read the desc

[olive sable]

[stable fractal]

oran

[real sierra]

very interesting game

sam look at my new room

[olive sable]

ok

[real sierra]

look at them go

[stable fractal]

do i buy this or the vedal plush?

[olive sable]

more fake walls lmao

[real sierra]

its not my fault

screeps pathfinding doesnt consider the map edges walkable

[glass flower]

well.. technically it is

you could add it to the pathfinding system's matrix

no?

[real sierra]

[stable fractal]

btw camimi in my language is a swear

whenever someone calls her camimi, i

[glass flower]

i also managed to get my external mining operation working.. i can now harvest in multiple rooms

[stable fractal]

i wanna play this game

[real sierra]

whats your plan for dealing with invaders in neutral rooms

[glass flower]

i don't

[stable fractal]

but i also want the vedal plush

[real sierra]

???

[real sierra]

the 50% sale ended

[glass flower]

i haven't gotten a single invader in my whole playthrough yet

i worry about it when the time comes

[rare bridge]

i started getting them

... at 1m harvested

[glass flower]

and if it comes i can just add the mining rooms to my room's defence and be done with it

it would detect enemies and send out defence units

[opaque wharf]

So, cloud. About those server...

[glass flower]

but also not sure if they can spawn there since its still a neutral room so technically they should spawn in my main room and not inside of my mining room no?

[real sierra]

me when im wrong

[glass flower]

idk

idc

even if the external miners die to invaders it won't completely lock up my base

[real sierra]

true

[glass flower]

its just a nice extra energy source

[opaque wharf]

Good attitude to have

[glass flower]

its a easy fix for a easy problem

when the time comes i can implement it

[real sierra]

when the time comes is like

immediately when you start trying to mine there

[glass flower]

im curently expanding my base since i hit lvl 4 today

[real sierra]

4

[glass flower]

i had like 5 upgraders work the whole night

now im building extensions and the storage tank and some more roads

and that is completely soaking up all my energy

as to why i started mining in a different room

i also limited the body parts in my body part selection code

it was way too overkill before. i don't need 6 work parts on a harvester. because 5 work parts can already mine it completely dry before it regenerates

[opaque wharf]

Bro really locked in

[real sierra]

i too have such a limit

but i chose 7

because supposedly there's 4000-energy sources out there in the world somewhere

[glass flower]

im perfectly balanced

[opaque wharf]

Is it generated from normal distribution?

[real sierra]

no

they're almost all 3000

ive never seen a 4000 source

[glass flower]

(technically you could choose the harvester body sizes from the amount of energy in the source)

so if its a 4000 you can do 1 miner assigned to it with 6-7 work parts

[real sierra]

nvm found one

[rare bridge]

right next to me

[real sierra]

i dont assign my source before spawning the creep

[glass flower]

(i don't have any assingment code besides for the external miners)

due to me just having 1 source

[rare bridge]

i have assignment code for my miners

it is:

• get a list of all sources in the room that are not already occupied by a miner

• randomly pick one

[glass flower]

wait.. i think the 4000 ones are the ones that are defended by the invader

[real sierra]

probably

[glass flower]

what happens if you kill the invaders and the cores do they become 3000 again

[real sierra]

the invaders respawn every 300 ticks it sounds

[glass flower]

well.. but not if you capture the room no?

[real sierra]

yeah with that room controller

[glass flower]

you can probably claim the rooms after killing everything in there

[real sierra]

sure go claim the room controller

[glass flower]

the issue is they don't have one...

[real sierra]

so you cant claim these rooms

ever

[glass flower]

wait.. they aren't invader owned rooms

its a seperate thing

[real sierra]

the inner 9 cells of a sector

are supposedly like this

[glass flower]

that explains the portal in the middle

[real sierra]

so how long are we thinking we're gonna last once the novice zone drops

[glass flower]

wait that portal room is goated..

3 free sources with 3 more on the otherside.. completely for free

i know i'll be fine... i don't have any resources players would need

[rare bridge]

1 tick (tanriol probably already has their eyes set on my room)

[real sierra]

you have sources

why wouldnt players want more energy to trade on the market

[glass flower]

i have 1 source...

[real sierra]

yeah tanriol is spooky

OK

[rare bridge]

their right on my doorstep too

[real sierra]

i thought i was going crazy

but im not

some players have bigger extensions

[rare bramble]

ye the extension size goes up at some point

[rare bridge]

yeah you get an upgrade to your extensions at lvl 7

[real sierra]

wtf tanriol psychological warfare

[real sierra]

[glass flower]

who needs 60 extensions..

where do you even get enough energy for those

[olive sable]

Seems to be working now

[real sierra]

i have 20

[rare bramble]

I mean excess stored up energy is always good + extensions dont need maintainance

[glass flower]

true

we should all team up and kill tanriol beneath cloud

[real sierra]

they have a turret here with a 30M hp rampart on top of it

not to mention the other 30M wall and rampart ahead of it

[glass flower]

they also still have 7 safe modes

i wonder.. i can see the wall going out from cloud's room..

does that mean i don't have any connections to out of the novice area?

[real sierra]

?

ohhh

yea

you have no rightward exits

[glass flower]

sometimes the map loaded weirdly.. so i though there was gonna spawn a door on the right of my room

but i guess not..

i still wonder if claiming rooms are worth it for mining... probably only if they have 2 or more sources..

[real sierra]

yeah im kinda in agreement

i think going forward ill change my code to only claim rooms with a high enough economy score

[tender river]

my plan for improving erf 1.0

1. remove floats, integers, booleans, pattern matching, sum types, flow typing
2. remove type inference, require explicit type annotations
3. add classes and oop

[opaque wharf]

I wish people weren't as afraid to try and repair their electronics first

[glass flower]

man.. we really need to try and get rid of crazyfish. they are the most scary person rightnow i think

[opaque wharf]

Before dumping it to trash and making it broke even more

[real sierra]

go repair a microwave transformer

[glass flower]

also... shiro.. can you just go and kill QIS already.

[real sierra]

my GCL isnt increasing fast enough to justify that kind of expansion

[tender river]

ok i'll keep integers but you won't be able to do anything with them

[real sierra]

literally zero benefit, i cant use the resources in their room atm

it would just be an expense

[glass flower]

[opaque wharf]

Then replace just the transformer

[real sierra]

the average person would die trying

you need to understand that nobody in this channel is a good representation of the average person

[glass flower]

i hope QIS comes back and kicks your ass. "just an expense"...

[real sierra]

you're all very weird

[real sierra]

they've been idle since i spawned here

unlikely

[glass flower]

[real sierra]

besides they already have enough holes in their walls that i can just walk through their tile anyway

why bother killing them

[glass flower]

[real sierra]

once my GCL goes up and i can claim another room tho

my code will probably elect to murder them for their sources

time will tell

ok i gotta get ready for work i have a meeting in 2h

[glass flower]

i don't have any expanding code..

i will probably just manually select rooms in memory to claim and do stuff like that

[real sierra]

too much gameplay for me

[glass flower]

don't want to bother figuring out a algorithm if i can literally take 1 second to figure out if a room is good or not

[real sierra]

if my creeps cant decide for themselves to do something, i dont wanna do it

[glass flower]

[tender river]

shiro will you rewrite your screeps codebase from scratch in erf if i add js interop

the language is 100% production ready and has zero bugs (please ignore the fact i'm currently ripping out 90% of the features because nothing works well together and i couldn't figure out an effective compilation scheme)

shiro i'm removing you

[opaque wharf]

Is that ERF1.0?

[tender river]

yes

[opaque wharf]

That's vey explicit

[tender river]

language grammars can be more compact if the tokenizer strips comments

but lalrpop does not so erf's lalrpop grammar has to have Comment* everywhere

[olive sable]

laptop is back toghether and works, just need to format it

[tender river]

alright first step done, the grammar been reduced by like 200 lines, next step is removing the features that grammar supported

[olive sable]

aight laptop repair is done, its just updating now

i can get back to my screeps

[real sierra]

change da screeps. my final message. goodbye

[jagged turtle]

css

[tender river]

all these fancy algorithms yet this still doesnt typecheck who needs types anyway

(me, i'm unfortunate enough to need types)

[real sierra]

I don't need types

the only type I need is bytes

[tender river]

ok shiro go write your typeless wasm

[real sierra]

everything else is a special case

[real sierra]

there's so many features to add to my screeps

[opaque wharf]

You must've hate Von Neumann architecture too then

[real sierra]

but they're so breaking

gonna be hours of bug fixing after

[glass flower]

same...

[uneven pulsar]

@real sierra happy birthday

[glass flower]

i do plan to add auto-expanding, and generally autobuilding to it.. but.. just the thought of it is... scaring me

[real sierra]

thank you but it is unfortunately not my birthday

you may have more luck trying again next year

[uneven pulsar]

wheyyy

[tender river]

you dont need von neumann if you have snakes

honestly i dont think anyone like von neumann

okay on second thought that was a dumb thing to say since snakes just allow you to invert any operation which does indeed free you from von neumann but is a bit more abstract than that

excue my llm brain

[sick owl]

https://github.com/triton-lang/triton/pull/7298/commits/a5e23d8e7e64b8a11af3edc1705407d91084b01d

Wtf nvidia

[opaque sigil]

cutlass moment

[rough bloom]

NVIDIA trying not be anticompetitive (impossible challenge)

[opaque sigil]

was wondering why scoop failed to update ninja, turns out windows defender flagged it as a trojan hmm

[rare bridge]

what the...

i agree

this makes me think that maybe this person's defence code is terrible

their only defence seems to be... these 2 turrets??

[glass flower]

who's defence?

wait... is pandanoid not one of us?

[rare bridge]

pandan0!d

no they aren't

[glass flower]

[rare bridge]

but check their room, bottom

[glass flower]

time to write a conquer code

and murder them

[olive sable]

my screeps are building walls

[rare bridge]

my builder sat there for fucking AGES dipping in and out

my BUILDER

[glass flower]

i really need a list of all the screeps people here so i can know who's rooms i need to avoid during pathfinding and conquering

what about juhotuho? is that one of us

[olive sable]

we need to forma guild/clan/whatever

[rare bridge]

1. why is it even doing that
2. it survived hundreds of ticks just going in and out

[olive sable]

context?

[rare bridge]

one of my builders got a bit lost during pathfinding

[glass flower]

honestly... whoever is under me hasn't looked at their game in a few days.. their controller is gonna decay in like a day

[olive sable]

oh you mean you had a screep goin between rooms

ye had the same thing happen

[rare bridge]

ended up leaving my room, getting shot by pandanoid's towers, coming into my room getting healed by my 2 towers, and continuing the loop

@rare bramble check your screeps game i beg of you

[glass flower]

so they are from here.. i knew it

[olive sable]

pandan0!d is not juhotuho tho

???

[glass flower]

i also asked for juhotuho

[olive sable]

ahhh

[rare bridge]

the only 4 not from here in our newbie area is QIS, ppandan0id, crazyfish, and j0s3

[rare bramble]

huh?

[rare bridge]

your controller is gonna downgrade :I(CANT

[glass flower]

the only 2 -> proceeds to list 4 people

[glass flower]

what about loop?

[rare bramble]

nah, it's fine

it already downgraded once during the night but I reupgraded it to lvl 2

[glass flower]

[rare bramble]

also, I have roads now

[quiet finch]

Wait why I cannot upload an audio?

[olive sable]

embed perms?

[quiet finch]

I'm not sure

[opaque sigil]

that would be why (need to talk more to unlock or sub to neuro)

[quiet finch]

Oh

[rare bramble]

I thought pretty deeply about the pros and cons of who should own what, who should maintain what and who should keep track of things, both for containers and for roads

and both times I came to the conclusion that whoever uses them, builds them, maintains them and keeps track of them. e.g. the miner uses the container, so miner builds and keeps track of it, the runners use the roads so their build and maintain them

[olive sable]

how does shiro make the recourses he mines go into the containers under his miners?

[rare bramble]

the miner has a small exception since I will have a general builder maintain their container to not disrupt miners mining cycles

[quiet finch]

I'm not sure if it soundss like Evil

I've been anxious about this for an hour

[olive sable]

did shiro put a tattoo on his room?

[olive sable]

kinda sounds like evil yes

btw, is that your ip adress?

[nocturne olive]

Some sort of TTS? You accuracy isn't the most amazing
It has an element of Evil and an element of Neuro, but has room for improvement before you can get anywhere close to Evil RVC levels

[quiet finch]

It's not RVC

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[opaque sigil]

[quiet finch]

Multimodal model

[olive sable]

??????

[quiet finch]

yeah

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

As I said, I assume it's TTS

Not RVC

[olive sable]

dont share your ip adress online bro

youre not supposed to do that

[quiet finch]

Temporary one lol

[olive sable]

datacenter in beijing?

[quiet finch]

It is actually a multimodal large language model.

[quiet finch]

Yes

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/penpen-codex-nge-shinnie-sussmeat-gif-25789339

[nocturne olive]

I doubt it if you got it to say what you wanted it's that
LLMs are much less useful for voice synthesis than actual voice synthesis models

[quiet finch]

However, end-to-end models have lower latency and better performance

[sick owl]

https://www.engadget.com/ai/grok-4-reportedly-checks-elon-musks-views-before-offering-its-opinion-130016794.html

AINTNOWAY

[nocturne olive]

Well, you're not Vedal, so to you having a multimodal LLM with Evil's voice is kinda pointless, it would be much more useful for the entire community to train a native TTS model instead

Otherwise I guess NeuroSynth + RVC is keeping that market

[quiet finch]

Actually, you can control its emotion of voice, so it is equivalent to a low-latency LLM with world knowledge

[sick owl]

Actual CoT step

[quiet finch]

I trust it's more likely a coincidence (or the model's own consideration), if the LLM would be controlled, then it would no longer be trustworthy

[opaque wharf]

You can have my IP. It's dynamic anyway

[quiet finch]

I'm a bit scared, so I turned it off

Every time the server is opened, the IP changes

[nocturne olive]

Useless, if I was a member of the community I'd much rather have a TTS for fan creations

[rough bloom]

probably just prompting from the official frontend
it's available as an API too, so it should be pretty easy to verify
surely they didn't bake that behavior into the model

[opaque sigil]

[quiet finch]

Well, I think you kind of want to argue. This is just a try, and there might not be any open-source ones on the market that can train sound output by themselves.

[rare bridge]

the best part is if you omit "you", it does not check for elon's stance

grok thinks it's actually elon

[sick owl]

Its not a coincidence, this is consistent behaviour

[quiet finch]

But controlling large LLMs is difficult, even with fine-tuning

[sick owl]

Not if you're the guys behind the base model

[olive sable]

@ grok is elon chill with this?

[sick owl]

@rich sedge is this true

[olive sable]

i dodnt ping grok on purpose cuz thats an actual person here lmao

[sick owl]

Funnier that way though xdx

[olive sable]

my screeps are making good progress, ima start working on the game-engine now

[opaque wharf]

I never knew that lmao

[opaque wharf]

Right, you now have cursed C++ and cursed JS

[olive sable]

I also got a new shipment of games today

some certified classics in there

kingdom hearts for ps2

FFX

[ruby plover]

Alright time to change browsers from chrone, any reccomendations? Ive heard firefox or brave seem to be the go tos but im not fond of how firefox looks

[olive sable]

damn this camera quality is shit, next time im using my own phone

[olive sable]

firefox is what i moved to after they removed ublock

no regrets so far

only minor annoyance has been my password manager not moving over easily

[ruby plover]

oh i didnt even think of the password manager hmm ill have to give firefox another shot then

tried yrs ago but didnt like how it looked iirc

yh chrome just blocked ublock now so :x

[olive sable]

i did need to get used to it at first but it works decently fine for me

the bookamrks and shit moving over easily did help

[ruby plover]

im assuming you can get adblockers on it fine?

[olive sable]

yrep

i have ublock now

[ruby plover]

nice gonna try it

cheers

[glass flower]

been on firefox for years.. don't miss chromium one bit.. i just hate when websites deliberatly block firefox users and throw up a "Your browser is out of date" page

and some very exotic websites load oddly or just don't work for some reason... but its pretty rare

a website that just refuses to work for me is: https://porterrobinson.com/

[nocturne olive]

Firefox is the only usable browser since Chromium is dropping MV2 support, and essentially all browsers except Firefox are Chromium

[ruby plover]

yeah watching them all just destroy their browsers is wild

[glass flower]

its more like google forcing them to destroy it

[sage crag]

awa

[opaque sigil]

just fork chromium, how bad could it be

[raw trout]

gm time to learn openCV

[opaque wharf]

I've been too deep in the jult that everytime I see or hear this, I feel compelled to say it back

[sage crag]

[raw trout]

hmm on FF rn
Generic but when was the last time you cleared your cache?

[olive sable]

awa

[raw trout]

nvm it dun work for me too 😂

[glass flower]

idk... but im also getting a error in the console: RuntimeError: indirect call to null

[glass flower]

yeah. the website does load and everything. you just can't interact with it

[opaque wharf]

That's weird

I can interact just fine. I'm on firefox mobile tho

[olive sable]

porter robinson website seems to work for me in ff

cool website btw

[opaque wharf]

That's the power JS have

[olive sable]

looks more like webgl ngl

[opaque wharf]

Still needs JS

[olive sable]

nah

[sage crag]

water

[opaque wharf]

Water exists, yes, that statement is true

[rare bridge]

improved spawning code to use a priority system

[glass flower]

my priority system is a big if else statement

[rare bridge]

my priority is a function call

[sick owl]

Wtf

Did you buy someones entire collection

[olive sable]

maybe

[sick owl]

Based screeps enjoyer btw

[olive sable]

i didnt look into it too much

i played res evil 4 on the wii, but i wonder what res evil veronica is

[rare bridge]

screeps

where are you in-game?

[sick owl]

I don't even remember, been a long while

Loved it in sixth form though

[rare bridge]

about time for you to pick it back up

[sick owl]

How is it these days

I figured it would've been pretty metagamed by now

[rare bridge]

it's pretty alright i think. but idk what the early days were link

[olive sable]

we're still on early game

doesnt seem to stack for some reason

lemme restart

[tender river]

erf can typecheck this
its a bug

[olive sable]

that fixed it

[glass flower]

honestly. it doesn't seem like there is a "meta". every room i look into its pretty unique designs and ways the code works.
when i started out i had the fear that everyone would just use the same script downloaded from somewhere and all everyone was doing is copy that and let it run. but luckily it doesn't seem like its happening

[sick owl]

Neato

Maybe I'll hop back on some time

[glass flower]

i feel like most people treat the game like its meant to be. a sandbox where you can try out things and do things on your own

im sure there is a meta overall. like what to focus when to expand etc. but its fairly tame

[olive sable]

my beautifull builder code

to use less cpu i should make the lists in main instead

[bright scaffold]

@trim tangle I FOUND THE PROBLEM

but not the solution...

my gpu gets only pcie 1.1 x1 instead of x4/x8/x16

but idk why

Can someone help me too please...?

[rare bramble]

pcie x1 for gpu is pretty odd, don't know how to help though

[rare bramble]

my builder code

[rough bloom]

yeah, that should only happen if there's a super shitty riser/extension, one of the devices doesn't support a wider/faster link, or the BIOS is configured to use a lower PCIe version (or if something is very broken, I guess)
PCIe 1.1 is pretty extreme though, even a USB cable still does PCIe 2

[rare bramble]

oh, also I think you have a condition error with spawn.store.getfreecapacity being < 0 instead of > 0