programming

[real sierra]

my code for this is...

[rare bridge]

they're not even accepting the job i don't think???

[glass flower]

[real sierra]

it made sense when writing it

[rare bridge]

oh wait

[real sierra]

now i just have to never touch it again

[rare bridge]

do i just not

apparently i'm not ticking builders???

[glass flower]

i can't really use room.Find for most of the stuff because of the overhead iirc. so i had to make my own cached system. i never actually tested if its really that bad...

[rare bridge]

yes the fuck i am wtf

[real sierra]

overhead?

[rare bridge]

oh

my code didn't go through cos there's an error in another file

[tulip ermine]

Anyone know how they coded MiSide 😭

[rare bridge]

[glass flower]

i use C# due to the interlop between the wasm and the js

[olive sable]

prob only the devs lmao

[tulip ermine]

I found SOME leaked information but only a bit

[olive sable]

i mean its prob not too difficult seperating each individual part as a function

but still

[tulip ermine]

Ngl I might as well ask the devs

[glass flower]

"There is also a small up-front cost to using any methods that involve JS interop, similar to a JIT, as it has to import and bind code to the JS api. This cannot be avoided."

[tulip ermine]

I don't know if they will respond though

[glass flower]

maybe im overcaching

[olive sable]

wat exactly do you wan to know aboutiside anyways?

if its the source code you wont get it

[glass flower]

wdym? its just a unity game no? so in c# using unity

[olive sable]

it is

[rare bridge]

no they used javascript

[olive sable]

god no

[rare bridge]

okay, builder code works

[glass flower]

i just realized... im not doing any garbage collection in my c# code

[rare bridge]

i currently use 3.38 CPU each tick

i'm not sure if my code will work well for multiple rooms

cos the room itself is using like 3-5 CPU per tick

[glass flower]

well.. will every room be the same size?

[rare bridge]

assuming so, i can only have 4 before i start saturating my limit

meanwhile i think shiro's probably running with less than 2 CPU per tick if they're letting their creeps just expand themselves

[glass flower]

i think the way to do it. is figure out a plan for each creep during the room being active then switch focus but still make the creeps follow the plan without calculating new things

[rare bridge]

indeed

currently that's what a lot of these tasks do

but it can be improved

[glass flower]

but also don't forget the overhead

like calling something for the first time a tick. maybe the calculations are not expensive but the first time is. so if you only have 1 room you don't know how expensive that call is... maybe

[rare bridge]

i wonder if there's an intrinsic limit to how big you can get because of the 20 CPU limit

[glass flower]

technically speaking obviously

[rare bridge]

or if you could write code that, despite you being massive and covering multiple sectors, still keeps you below the 20 CPU limit

[glass flower]

you would need to delegate tasks and not simulate each room

like have low-priority rooms

[real sierra]

definitely fix that

if you're storing anything in creep memory, it's slowly piling up

and you do not want the state fuck explosion that happens if you hit the mem limit

[glass flower]

thats the best thing im not

[real sierra]

idk how either of you survive with random script resets

[glass flower]

im doing everything with epheral c# storage. so a psuedo memory

[real sierra]

if my state all got reset...

part of why my stuff is so fast is because i can cache a bunch of stuff long-term and rely on that

[glass flower]

i assume nothing lasts and just make sure the tasks are delegated each time they are asked for

[real sierra]

e.g. my wall algorithm is super expensive but it's run once ever per room and then cached until the end of time

[glass flower]

but i also don't do anything too complicated yet..

its basically just go a-b and do a-b no actual info needs to be know

[real sierra]

my screeps store a great deal of info about themselves

i dont wanna leak too many of my innovations tho

ok maybe its not that much info

but a few little important nuggets

[glass flower]

this is literally my whole memory layout

[glass flower]

but also.. i just removed all my caching.. and it didn't change a thing for my ms

[real sierra]

i cant fit the rest in a picture

ive profiled my code to death and confirmed that my cache helps

the slowest creeps are, 99% of the time, ones with cache misses

[glass flower]

the only thing im caching was room.Find calls

[real sierra]

thats the worst thing to cache

[glass flower]

so.. ye

[real sierra]

[glass flower]

[real sierra]

it was a smart idea tho

if it wasnt auto-cached, that would be a huge performance gain

[glass flower]

im used to this kind of things being expensive in literally every other API

[real sierra]

its expensive in this one

thats why it's one of the very few methods with built-in caching

the other being creep.moveTo

i would suggest tho that there's a few more things worth caching for you

if you ever spot yourself doing a
room.find(...).filter(...)
or
room.find(...).sort(...)
(or the C# equivalent)

those are good candidates to at least consider

[rare bridge]

are you able to provide updated profile code to log the hits and misses?

[real sierra]

it only works with my cache code

[rare bridge]

damn

[real sierra]

idk if you're using the same cache wrapper system

[nocturne olive]

Finally managed to fix the NeuroSynth trainer installer

[nocturne olive]

That was much more of a pain than expected

[rare bridge]

how are you handling it?

[real sierra]

it feels a bit like shooting myself in the foot but here

[nocturne olive]

I now have a major dislike for Python script based installers

[rare bridge]

in exchange

if i write attacking code

we'll set up some sort of ally system

[real sierra]

*for use, ensure that you import the module and call clear() each tick before any methods using wrap() are declared

beyond that, use just looks like

    bodyCost: cache.wrap(function(body) {
        return body.reduce((sum, part) => constants.PART_COSTS[part] + sum, 0);
    }),

[rare bridge]

time to rewrite all my code at some point

[real sierra]

shouldnt need a huge rewrite

just put cache.wrap around anything expensive

[stoic ruin]

haiiiii

[real sierra]

[stoic ruin]

just making sure, this channel is for programming in general right? not just AI?

[rare bridge]

shiro

everything.

[real sierra]

?

everything..?

[real sierra]

programming in general

you are allowed and encouraged to ask more than just "how do i make my own neuro"

[rare bridge]

i use 5 CPU per tick shiro

[real sierra]

where does your profiler say its going

[stoic ruin]

oh cool! cause i know nothing about ai programming 😅

[rare bridge]

creep ticking

[real sierra]

actually

[stoic ruin]

my thing is making apps

[real sierra]

i have an

A+ speedup

for you

i discovered it a while ago

and was blown away by how useful it is

im gonna dm it

[rare bridge]

i also have one: rm -rf my-screeps-code

actually...

what about rm -rf / --no-preseve-root

(don't run that)

[glass flower]

while you were writing this. i was literally writing my tower logic that looks like that.

[olive sable]

aight guys im going to bed, goodnight

[stoic ruin]

so far my best project is an app for music that i made using html and javascript, mostly javascript. also goodnight, Sam!

[opaque sigil]

we need more non-ai programming here

[real sierra]

gngn!

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

do you like writing javascript code?

[olive sable]

You mean non-llm or non-screeps?

[stoic ruin]

yes! it's been a hobby of mine for 6 years now

[olive sable]

Cuz if you want cursed vulkan its coming soon

[real sierra]

would you play a game that revolved around writing javascript, but was much more interesting and active than a pure coding sim like bitburner?

[stoic ruin]

yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun actually

[real sierra]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/464350/Screeps_World/

Steam

Screeps: World

Screeps: World is an open source MMO RTS sandbox game. With all the attributes of a full-fledged strategy game, you control your colony by writing script that operates 24/7 in the single persistent open world filled by other players on par with you.

Your colony can harvest resources, build units, conquer territory, trade with other colonies.…

Price

$7.49

Recommendations

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▶ Play video

read thru the description and see if it interests you

a number of us are playing it right now

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

Aight bye

[stoic ruin]

OOH, ill have to get that soon. it looks so fun

[real sierra]

+1

yeah if you ever hear us talking about screeps in here

thats the game we're on about

[stoic ruin]

gotcha, as soon as i get the chance, ill buy the game

[real sierra]

you are fricking awesome

omg wait im so sorry

ahem

[real sierra]

welcome to neuro-sama headquarters!

please feel free to ask any questions you may have to staff or community alike!

[stoic ruin]

you got it!

[stark needle]

https://youtu.be/sWZRQsejtfA bruhhhhh

[real sierra]

seeing AI and sentient in a sentence together

[opaque sigil]

i decided to look at the rust bindings for screeps to see how much work porting it to zig would be and apparently it's 16k lines of rust

[real sierra]

just transpile

[stark needle]

People are losing their minds over chatgpt

[stoic ruin]

anywho, ill introduce myself really quick. Hi I'm Partygamer, but you can call me Jess! I like coding and drawing. in terms of coding, my specialty is html/javascript/css, but i also know python.

[real sierra]

Linear Algebra:
Linear Algebra, OpenAI:

[opaque sigil]

wait

there are c++ bindings

[real sierra]

delete that message before sam sees it

[opaque sigil]

i could do cpp -> c -> zig

[lapis wraith]

I don't know what gary is trying to cook here, but he's got the spirit I guess

[glass flower]

oh god.. i thought this was screeps for a solid minute

[real sierra]

SAME

I WAS LIKE "HOW DID YOU TURN THE NUMBERS ON"

[rare bridge]

SAME

[sage crag]

awa

[lapis wraith]

That's what made you wonder and not the fact that the're belts?

[glass flower]

neuro sdk integration in screep when?

[real sierra]

[rare bridge]

possible

i debated doing it actually

[glass flower]

honestly how long the ticks take it would give her enough time to think

[lapis wraith]

Both Shapez and screeps use JS. If this integration goes somewhere usefull, could be worth it.

[rare bridge]

oh shit it's 1am i should probably sleep

[sage crag]

nuro-as-screep or nuro-as-player

[real sierra]

the builders in E37N39 right now

[rare bridge]

lemme give my builders the ability to repair and then i think i'll be good

[rare bridge]

i mean.. both are possible

[rare bridge]

[glass flower]

im exhausting my single energy source 500 ticks before it regenerates...

[sage crag]

mrrp

[lapis wraith]

Well... good luck at screeps

[real sierra]

my new room is a single source, i know the struggle

[real sierra]

ty infernal

[sage crag]

eeeliv needs a business suit model

[real sierra]

suits are so classy

my walls algorithm is so good right guys? haha

[rare bridge]

i tell the builders they can repair structures and they immediatly decide that they MUST repair something that's 85% repaired

[real sierra]

i found a bug in my wall filling code

not the wall algorithm, just the code that puts down the actual construction sites

almost died to this bug

[rare bridge]

i'm gonna die to this builder bug if it reoccurs

[real sierra]

fixed another small bug that would fill my ramparts with walls

im not that worried about my security

[rare bridge]

found the cause

some leftover damage from the battle i put my creeps through

... and some badly written repair priortization code

okay, i think my code is working now?

@real sierra if you see my creeps just outright die off ping me and laugh at me

[real sierra]

i probably wont see it

just set up emails

[rare bridge]

new code

let hasCreeps = false
for (let creep in Games.creeps) {
    hasCreeps = true;
}

if (!hasCreeps)
    Game.notify(":neuroWAJAJA: :evilWAJAJA:");

email tomorrow:

[real sierra]

you jest but

i have independently confirmed that the emails also render HTML

i havent tested the <img> tag, but...

[rare bridge]

actual emojis

wait i could render arbitrary images in my creep data render

[real sierra]

<img src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1328963855698886716.webp?size=44" /> <img src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1328963853995737189.webp?size=44" />

?

[rare bridge]

try it

dm me results

[real sierra]

ik it'll work in console

[rare bridge]

i'm going bedge

[real sierra]

i just dont know if it works in email

[austere forge]

Sounds Java or something similar

[hoary lion]

o hell nah this is bad

java = javascript war is going to start again

[opaque sigil]

[warped narwhal]

Wait, these aren't the same thing?

[hoary lion]

if we identify languages by how much hate they receive, then yes

[real sierra]

php is truly one of a kind

[glass flower]

php screeps player when?

[real sierra]

https://www.codeconvert.ai/php-to-javascript-converter

AI

convert SQL to lua please

[austere forge]

I don't understand purpose of echoing the console

[austere forge]

Wha

[austere forge]

.NET/Python

[glass flower]

we already have a .NET player (Me)

not sure about python tho..

[amber fractal]

@burnt rock fuck off

For context, at least 5 necro pings to (regrettably) a non vedal individual

[amber fractal]

Was looking for this answer, stumbled upon this.

Seems like https://github.com/TranscryptOrg/Transcrypt is used in the python impls.

@olive sable :xdx:

Only other thing I can think of is rust-python with a PO3 for screeps. Way too much jank for python.

[opaque sigil]

idk about calling javascript elegant chief

i suppose i can see where they're coming from, it do be kinda comfy once you're used to it

[tender geode]

Might be too late, but HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHIRO

[opaque sigil]

nice abbreviation

[nocturne olive]

The 3090 has proven itself worthy of the title of the NeuroSynth training device, it can easily run NeuroSynth training at an increased feature level at 16 batch size, with VRAM to spare

[hoary lion]

i have zero hope of grok 4 coming out on api

it is actually out

or is it

man fuck this musk time

[sage crag]

awa

[hoary lion]

awa

finally

[warm star]

Allow me to annoy everyone, greetings

Behold

The humble square

[dense marsh]

should do. emails allow html. i dont see why this wouldnt work

[near copper]

[dense marsh]

oh god

ew

[warm star]

Teehee

[lilac glen]

dude wtf

[midnight sigil]

now where's the 90° restriction

[warm star]

Teehee

[warm star]

There are four 90° angles, are there not?

Hehehehehee

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-remove-his-right-to-gif-17344972379369816465

[warm star]

Nooooo

[hoary lion]

there are like hundreds of much worser variants of this gif

[warm star]

I know

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/meursault-claim-their-bones-limbus-limbus-company-gif-15946145179939864106

[amber fractal]

Mods, add an electron to every atom in their body

[warm star]

What about the
"Mods, grind him up by the essence of the stars and splay their profane form across the galaxy... END THEM NOW"

[hoary lion]

too long

just twist 'em balls

[primal siren]

Canada computer build this for me... WTF how is my gpu still alive after 2 years. AND WHY DID I NOT ASK ANY QUESTION!?!?

[warm star]

R E A L

[stark needle]

¿?

I mean is it actually four right Angles? If it's circles directly i dont think there'd be a true right angle since it'd always be rotating

no (?)

i think there'd only be a single point to which the circle would be a right angle to the lines

[warm star]

I mean yeah probably

Actually no

Right angles can be as small as necessary

[hoary lion]

welcome shadow being schizo

canon event of #programming

[opaque wharf]

Looking at this here is always bizzare for me lol

[hoary lion]

did you just say bizzare

[warm star]

Nuh uh

[amber fractal]

It can be an adventure at times

I thought about it like this, if circles are defined as 0 sided shapes then your adding 4 angles from each extension.

If someone is on the circles have infinite angles side however, this doesn't work

[stark needle]

wait actually

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonal_circles

[amber fractal]

Math side of #programming I summon thee

[stark needle]

<insert >

[stark needle]

hi i am being schizo

[warm star]

MWAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAAAA

[warm star]

bwaa

[stark needle]

[warm star]

Heh

[tender river]

straight lines as generalized circles is crazy

[prime ridge]

tripartite attention is pretty kool

[uneven pulsar]

i see the square
it's right there

[warm star]

...

This infuriates me

I am unsure as of to why

But it does

[uneven pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-neuro-neuro-sama-neuro-sama-new-model-vedal987-gif-6186984324079647106

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-8470516175995282617

[rare bridge]

surprisingly my creeps didn't break themselves overnight

[noble zodiac]

they are just like me frfr

[glass flower]

i wonder... what is your average cpu and how many creeps.
i feel like 1ms per creep is a bit much on average. (7 creeps and i have a 7 cpu average tho some take longer for somereason..)

[noble zodiac]

(defun hamt-insert (hamt key value &optional (hash (shash key)) (shift 0))
    (let*
        ((idx (* (bitwise-and 31 (arithmetic-shift hash shift)) 3)) (node (vector-get hamt idx)))
        (cond
            ((nil? node)
                (begin
                    (vector-set! hamt idx hash)
                    (vector-set! hamt (+ idx 1) key)
                    (vector-set! hamt (+ idx 2) value)))
            ((integer? node)
                (if (eq? hash node)
                    (vector-set! hamt (+ idx 2) value)
                    (let ((leaf (vector-make 96)))
                        (hamt-insert leaf (vector-get hamt (+ idx 1)) (vector-get hamt (+ idx 2)) node (- shift 5))
                        (hamt-insert leaf key value hash (- shift 5))
                        (vector-set! hamt idx leaf))))
            ((vector? node)
                (hamt-insert node key value hash (- shift 5))))))
(defun hamt-get (hamt key &optional (hash (shash key)) (shift 0))
    (let*
        ((idx (* (bitwise-and 31 (arithmetic-shift hash shift)) 3)) (node (vector-get hamt idx)))
        (if (vector? node)
            (hamt-get node key hash (- shift 5))
            (if (eq? node hash)
                (vector-get hamt (+ idx 2))
                nil)))))

behold the worst hamt ever conceived

[glass flower]

[olive sable]

shiro hates me

[olive sable]

Hi thats me

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

Wrong, thats 270° in the center, not 90° stupid

[warm star]

What literally makes no sense, 2 of the 90° angles are on the outside, where the circle connects to the rest of the shape

[olive sable]

You're not allowed to use the outside

Well time to check on my screeps

Oh ye, goodmorning

[prime ridge]

What's up Sam

[glass flower]

i would be interested to know what your average cpu is like? you have so many creeps

[prime ridge]

I have no idea what this is but it looks like what I'd imagine LISP looked like

[rare bridge]

lemme show you

[09:55:21][shard3]Starting execution for tick 71185897. 2975ms since last tick.
[09:55:21][shard3]    Checking for missing creeps took 0.09808630000043195ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep b_7d51c78209 took 0.18104059998586308ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep u_dcd756d484 took 0.25421519999508746ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep u_96746b12bf took 0.2320033999858424ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep u_8aa4345225 took 0.23053960003016982ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep u_a21e3302cd took 0.231944899976952ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep d_35a83dc9fd took 0.04601480001292657ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep d_1c78f19b09 took 0.027740699995774776ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep b_cb8568c726 took 0.11579360000905581ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep b_9ab8c1499a took 0.11486410000361502ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep l_cef84bcabf took 0.41117980000854004ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep l_3aee195050 took 0.3615496999991592ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep l_ea232a0d9e took 0.11600550000730436ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep m_925c5eeb98 took 0.3048853000072995ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep l_6ddc54e5b8 took 2.167105400003493ms
[09:55:21][shard3]      Creep m_045c01fa60 took 0.39686159999109805ms
[09:55:21][shard3]    Running creep jobs took 5.321401000008336ms
[09:55:21][shard3]    Creating creeps too 0.0046787000028416514ms
[09:55:21][shard3]  Spawn Manager took 5.4489726000028895ms
[09:55:21][shard3]  Structure Manager too 0.003248699998948723ms
[09:55:21][shard3]Room E37N34 took 5.4657777000102215ms
[09:55:21][shard3]Finished execution after using 5.532078999996884ms CPU time. 6007 CPU currently in bucket.

[glass flower]

interesting

good to see that your logistic bot also takes about 2-3ms

i managed to get 5-7ms now

my repair bot and logistic bot are the most expensive ones.

i should try to look for a way to enable/disable profiling at runtime. rightnow im doing it through a compile preprocessor

[rare bridge]

i just always profile

[glass flower]

it spams the console too much for my liking. i also don't think its overly useful

also not sure about the overhead of it

since im creating and destroying IDisposables when the scope ends

could clog up the GC and cause larger spikes

[rare bridge]

hmm maybe...

[glass flower]

this is the profiler that i wrote

[rare bridge]

can't read that on mobile

[glass flower]

classic discord with their embeds

i guess i'll have to do this:

using System;
using System.Text;
using ScreepsDotNet.Native.World;

public class Profiler : IDisposable
{
    private static double _startTime;
    private static double _endTime;
    private static NativeGame? _game;
    private static bool _isProfiling;

    private string _name;

    private double _starttime;

    private struct ProfileEntries
    {
        public string Name;
        public double cpuTimeStart;
        public double cpuTimeEnd;
        public ProfileEntries(string name, double starttime, double endtime)
        {
            this.Name = name;
            this.cpuTimeStart = starttime;
            this.cpuTimeEnd = endtime;
        }
    }

    private static List<ProfileEntries> Entries = [];

    public Profiler(string profilingname)
    {
        this._name = profilingname;
        this._starttime = _game?.CpuTime ?? (double)0.0f;

    }
    public static void Init(NativeGame game)
    {
        _game = game;
    }

    public static void Start()
    {
        _startTime = _game?.CpuTime ?? 0;
        _isProfiling = true;
    }

    public static void PrintProfiling()
    {
        _isProfiling = false;
        if (_game == null)
        {
            Console.WriteLine("Profiler was not initiated Correctly");
            return;
        }

        _endTime = _game.CpuTime;

        StringBuilder print_string = new();
        print_string.AppendLine($"-----Profiling Results for Tick {_game.Time}------");
        print_string.AppendLine($"Total Time: {_endTime - _startTime}ms");
        //var lastcputime = _startTime;
        foreach (var item in Entries.GroupBy(x => x.Name))
        {
            var count = item.Count();
            {
                if (count > 1)
                {
                    var combinedCPUTime = item.Sum(x => x.cpuTimeEnd - x.cpuTimeStart);
                    var averageCPUTime = combinedCPUTime / count;
                    print_string.AppendLine($"---{item.Key} -- {averageCPUTime}ms -- {combinedCPUTime}ms Total -- (Average of {count} entries)");
                }
                else if (count != 0)
                {
                    var group = item.First();
                    var entryTime = group.cpuTimeEnd - group.cpuTimeStart;
                    print_string.AppendLine($"---{group.Name} -- {entryTime}ms");
                }
            }

        }

        Console.WriteLine(print_string.ToString());

        Entries.Clear(); // TODO: maybe make average over a certain tick range?
    }

    public void Dispose()
    {
        GC.SuppressFinalize(this);
        if (!_isProfiling || _game == null) return;
        Entries.Add(new(_name, _starttime, _game.CpuTime));
    }
}

and then i use it like:

using Profiler profiler = new($"{role.GetType().Name} Role Execution");

and it automatically adds a new entry

[rare bridge]

i wrap functions in my profile function and that returns a function which calls my function and returns it's result, while also console logging the profile

[glass flower]

i log at the end of a tick to not (hopefully) change the profiling results

all it does during a tick is save the name,startcputime and endcputime. the actual calculation and logging is done at the end and all combined add about 1ms to the end result

[rare bridge]

maybe i should do that, but i profile everything tbh

[olive sable]

6-8

[glass flower]

i kinda want to add a rolling profiler to it. so it maybe profiled 10 ticks and only then prints it

[glass flower]

alright so i guess my code and the c# wasm isn't too much of a overhead

[rare bridge]

eventually i want a system that achieves <10ms average per tick on several rooms

[glass flower]

same

[noble zodiac]

probably because it is lisp, at least a variant of it

[prime ridge]

ah neat

[glass flower]

im gonna speedrun lvl4

[rare bridge]

i finally installed constantly running upgraders

[glass flower]

how did you survive without that

i always had atleast 1 upgrader running 24/7

sometimes i scaled up or down depending if i were building or spawning things

[rare bridge]

i had tasks that'd upgrade when i wanted them to but otherwise keep it from downgrading if it got too close

[glass flower]

is there a downside to upgrading?

i thought it only has benefits

besides invaders getting stronger after lvl4

[olive sable]

6-8

[rare bridge]

at the time i only had harvesters and builders

[glass flower]

[olive sable]

6-8, forgot to reply

[rare bridge]

so my downside was that i wouldn't be able to fill my spawners and keep everything running

[glass flower]

you sent 6-8, 3 times now

[rare bridge]

now i've got 5 different types, i turned the harvesters into upgraders

[rare bridge]

6-8

[glass flower]

[olive sable]

My wifi is dogshit lmao

[rare bridge]

sorry for slow responses btw

i'm literally at work rn

[olive sable]

E

[rare bridge]

(they're pretty lax if i get my work done )

[glass flower]

[rough bloom]

haven't seen that one in a long time

[rare bridge]

but that's partially cos i'm a volunteer lol

[olive sable]

Imagine having a job, couldnt be me

[olive sable]

Dubrovnik

Im on a plane back to belgium at 6pm tho so

Ill be lannding in charleroi though

Its better than nothing ig

[rare bridge]

job: screeps player

[olive sable]

Id rather think of myself as a game-dev

Go to the room controller if spawn is full!!!!!!

[rough bloom]

make other players pay you protection money
-# surely that's against ToS

[glass flower]

i think it depends on how you do it... you could create creeps that go to enemy rooms with just a move component and say like a time until you have to pay them something and if not you send a army to their room

like resources or something. that you then can sell for actually valuable thing maybe even steam community market items

[olive sable]

Why is this broken?

Spawn.energy should be full

[glass flower]

you can transfer energy into the controller?

i thought you always have to use upgrade

[olive sable]

Is that not how it works?

[glass flower]

there is a upgradeController method on creeps that levels the controller up and requires a Work Component

[olive sable]

Lemme try

[rare bridge]

you have to use upgrade

[opaque wharf]

Y'all doing fun programming there. Meanwhile me, here, doing boring programming

Tomorrow I should be able to join tho

[midnight sigil]

we should do vibe coding

👍

[rough bloom]

Don't worry I am also doing boring programming
I love enterprise Java code full of ChatGPT-generated garbage and nonsensical design decisions

[olive sable]

Yay

Ill be on desktop then

No more coding on shitty phone or laptop suffocating on the hotel bed

[harsh herald]

it would have been more impressive if it wasn't chatgpt

[amber fractal]

Due to me not being able to I've not managed to be on screeps for a while. I would be blaming this on AI work behind the scenes but I've just not bothered to do it.

-# Not to be confused with the NN work I'm doing on this channel

[olive sable]

Now they're not bothering to do anything at all

They're all just chilling there with full carry

https://tenor.com/view/mad-benson-regular-show-regular-show-benson-angry-gif-3864384236832066965

[olive sable]

I get the feeling my colony is too high maintenance

As soon as a the spawn is full it needs to make a new screep cuz someone died

I scaled down the amount of screeps

[real sierra]

screepers

what's new for everyone

[real sierra]

so wait

are you unable to or

are you just not

[amber fractal]

Yesn't

[real sierra]

what is spawn.energy

is that even a thing

[rare bridge]

spawn.energy is deprecated

please don't use it

[olive sable]

Fuuuck

[uneven pulsar]

always use deprecated things

despite all warnings

[olive sable]

Then what is the new one?

[uneven pulsar]

just to see how long they'll stick around

[amber fractal]

Time to write even more code

[olive sable]

There were no warnings lmao

[real sierra]

bro is making up properties

🥀

[olive sable]

I halucinzted worse than chatgpt

[uneven pulsar]

bro just reminded me that i should be working

by accident

[olive sable]

So what do i need to use???

[dry sage]

Shir

[real sierra]

spawn.store.getUsedCapacity(RESOURCE_ENERGY)

[rare bridge]

creep.store and it's properties and functions

[olive sable]

They're hogging even worse now

[real sierra]

the store property should be accessible for most objects that can hold any resource

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

then you use the getCapacity, getUsedCapacity, getFreeCapacity methods on the store as needed

[real sierra]

Em!

I hope your wizardry is going well

[dry sage]

[glass flower]

i would probably just do (spawn.getFreeCapacity() <= 0) if that doesn't work your code is wrong somewhere down the line

[real sierra]

you never know what you can store in these things

or what changes screeps may receive in the future

doesn't hurt to insert the constant

[olive sable]

Dont equal

Just do <

[real sierra]

I have a container that accidentally has a bunch of some weird resource despite the fact that none of my creeps can transport it

idek how it got in there

[glass flower]

you can't have less than 0 free capacity

== would be the correct one. but i like doing <=

[olive sable]

Do > then bruh

Dont equal

Cuz i need it to do other shit if its full

[glass flower]

but yes.. i forgot the argument for Resource. it does require the resource argument. i just have removed it for me and make it default for energy

[olive sable]

If freeCapacity is 0 it needs to go upgrade the controller

[glass flower]

but then <= is correct no?

[olive sable]

No, cuz this is not part of the upgrade code

That line should check if theres free capacity in spawn, cuz it makes the screeps go to spawn

[glass flower]

then do > 0 idk

[real sierra]

it doesn't require the argument

without arguments, it just consider all resources

[glass flower]

oh.. its optional

i just have it default to Energy for me

since that is the most likely usecase

[real sierra]

i.e. a container with 10 energy and 10 ghodium will have getUsedCapacity() return 20 and getUsedCapacity(RESOURCE_ENERGY) return 10

[glass flower]

but will it make a difference for getFreeCapacity?

[real sierra]

good question honestly

[glass flower]

i mean.. it doesn't matter what resource it can only take so much regardless

[real sierra]

I hope not

it would suck if it just subtracted the used capacity for that resource from the total capacity of the container

I'll have to check

[rare bramble]

I think that's a resonable implementation

[real sierra]

I do too

that's why it worries me

[glass flower]

Returns free capacity for the store. For a limited store, it returns the capacity available for the specified resource if resource is defined and valid for this store.

Returns available capacity number, or null in case of an invalid resource for this store type.

[real sierra]

unclear from docs

will need to experiment

luckily I now have a container with a bunch of a random resource somehow

so I can check

[rare bramble]

are there resources that take more than 1 capacity per resource?

then it would make sense

[real sierra]

nah but there might be storages that are locked to a particular resource

or at least some of their capacity is

[glass flower]

like labs probably

[real sierra]

labs could be an example

yeah

[rare bramble]

yeah

[real sierra]

also discovery

you can put arbitrary HTML in the email notifs too

[rare bramble]

that's pretty funny

can you send a static webpage in an email when you get a notification?

[real sierra]

yeah probably

[glass flower]

btw are you guys running a private server to test stuff. or are you guys doing everything on the live server

[real sierra]

I'm doing everything live

[glass flower]

living on the edge

(same)

[real sierra]

cloud is supposed to start a server but

[real sierra]

nah everything is in a try catch

[glass flower]

tho i was thinking about doing it just so i can work on auto expansion code

without attacking any of you guys on accident

i should add a list of usernames to never attack to my memory

[real sierra]

surely I'd never attack anyone by accident

surely I have adequate protections on my expansion code

[glass flower]

and then i'll devour everyone. including qis and crazyfish

[real sierra]

QIS is my victim

[glass flower]

then just doing something

[real sierra]

waiting for my GCL to go up so I can claim their room after

my code won't waste resources on expansion and scouting if my GCL is too low for a new room

[glass flower]

they have 2 more safemodes...

[rare bridge]

i'll try launch it tonight

[glass flower]

[real sierra]

you think they set up their code to use safe modes?

they barely even set up wall repairs

[glass flower]

honestly i feel bad for them

they seem new

[real sierra]

I dont

they haven't opened the game in like a week

[glass flower]

how do you know?

[real sierra]

because I check on them often

the behaviour of their code is unchanged

[glass flower]

but they build a few walls manually no?

[real sierra]

they did that ages ago

[glass flower]

they werent there a few days ago. there were holes no?

[real sierra]

did they fix the holes in the bottom right?

those holes were there yesterday

[glass flower]

no

[real sierra]

they're not here then

[glass flower]

just in

[real sierra]

it's hilarious because

I don't think my code would even spawn attackers for them

[glass flower]

maybe i'll just walk in and kill them before you

[real sierra]

then I'd kill you

idk if you noticed but I'm stuck in a corner and they're the only useful tile I can get to

[glass flower]

you could try

[real sierra]

they also cut me off from

literally the entire rest of the novice zone

so I WILL use that tile as a passage

[glass flower]

i was just planning to kill not to also claim

[real sierra]

why

[lapis wraith]

I have a machine that I don't use that's suposed to act as a server. Maybe I can look around on how to set up a screeps server (I don't know if I could run it 24/7 but... maybe I do it cause funny?)

[real sierra]

cloud already setting one up hopefully

[opaque wharf]

To send a message

[real sierra]

no worries

[opaque wharf]

Suuuurely

[real sierra]

[glass flower]

is anyone going to settle in E35N37? i might make that my secondary base

[lapis wraith]

Good to know. I'll look into it just out of curiosity too.

[real sierra]

^

[real sierra]

below QIS?

[glass flower]

2 left of me

[lapis wraith]

I'm blind. I don't see messages

[real sierra]

I can't see the map so

[lapis wraith]

[glass flower]

where sam died

[real sierra]

but either way no I'm not planning for it

I was gonna murder QIS and that's about it

by then the novice zone will be over

so I can look outward

[opaque wharf]

Imma share this out of context

[glass flower]

we are surrounded by lvl 7 and 8 people

[real sierra]

not the worst out of context thing of mine

[glass flower]

its gonna be fun once the novice area is gone

[real sierra]

I'm almost there

just a little more

[glass flower]

you are 5

and they have power creeps already

[real sierra]

I believe in my creeps

I've beaten every invasion

[glass flower]

the provismet guy to the right of me is making me scared

(i still had no invasions )

[real sierra]

yeah

provismet scares me too

burn that bridge when I get to it

need to ensure my subjugation squads work

[opaque wharf]

Is crazyfish still crazy?

[real sierra]

and I think their AI needs a little more work

[real sierra]

yeah they scare me but they're further

[glass flower]

i'll be honest.. we could probably just run into crazy fish they barely have energy for defense rightnow

[real sierra]

?

[glass flower]

maybe i should plan for that soon'ish

[rare bridge]

[real sierra]

the downfall of crazy fish

[glass flower]

he could build like 1-2 big guys at most

[real sierra]

that's still a lot

[glass flower]

i could prepare with like 5-6

[real sierra]

with all those extensions you have surely you can afford a strong soldier

[glass flower]

dud i can pump out like a full spawner (about 800 energy) every 50 ticks

[real sierra]

a move part is 50 energy

that's only 16 move parts

attack, ranged attack, and heal are even more expensive

[glass flower]

heal is like 250 alone

[real sierra]

it's a far cry of the max unit parts of 50

[glass flower]

well he can't make max units either

[real sierra]

are you sure?

[glass flower]

and his storage is basically empty

he has 2250 energy

[real sierra]

[glass flower]

like total

[real sierra]

you've given me an idea for a way to set up my rooms

[glass flower]

in his whole room

[rare bridge]

bro is cooked

[real sierra]

i might be able to improve my empire a lot this way

[glass flower]

he is pumping everything excess into the controller

[rare bridge]

i'm currently gaining energy unless something is invading

[glass flower]

like im not 100% sure.. but like pretty sure i can kill Crazy but...

he has 5 safe modes

i should send a random scout unit so he automatically activates his controller

(surely he has automatic safe mode)

[real sierra]

if he's as smart as he looks, his safe mode might only trigger on hostile units with attack parts

plus some proximity to the controller

[real sierra]

that's what id do

[glass flower]

then.. 1 move 1 attack 1 tough

[opaque wharf]

You know, I wonder if this convos is worth moving to #gaming and see how confused people are

[real sierra]

GLOBAL STORAGE USERS

ENJOY YOUR CACHE WIPE

[glass flower]

nothing will break for me

i coded everything with the idea it wipes every tick

[real sierra]

unit roles:

[opaque wharf]

Reasonable assumption tbh

[real sierra]

how do you track your energy production

[glass flower]

why do i need to track it?

[opaque wharf]

You don't

[real sierra]

is that just me?

[opaque wharf]

See? Called it

[rare bramble]

I currently only use creep memory for loading in creep types after reuploading my code

[real sierra]

yeah I use the actual memory object for everything

[glass flower]

i only use global memory for RoleLimits so i can edit those without recompiling

(well and roles for the creeps..)

[opaque wharf]

And your assumption is tick always move forward

[real sierra]

the shiro conjecture is true

idc

[rare bridge]

it's cache for a reason

[real sierra]

5 mins from now

"why is everything broken?!"

[glass flower]

i know i'll be fine

[rare bramble]

do things like creeps and items retain their memory after server reset?

[rare bridge]

shiro the only thing i use cache for technically doesn't even need cache

[glass flower]

because i have that everytime i change my code..

[real sierra]

creep.memory is shorthand for Memory.creeps[creepid]

so it is also wiped

[glass flower]

btw. the room.Find() cache was actually useful. was able to cut down my time from like 3ms to 1ms average

[rare bramble]

ok, good to know

[glass flower]

does memory even get wiped? i thought that is stored forever

[real sierra]

likewise for room.memory

[real sierra]

oh ya it's stored forever

wtf am I talking about

[glass flower]

[olive sable]

Im back

[real sierra]

sorry I was confused

[glass flower]

i was like... obviously its stored in their DB

[rare bramble]

🐥 🚬 shiro spreading misinformation

[real sierra]

anything in Memory is retained

[glass flower]

thats why there is a limit

[rare bridge]

i spoke too soon my creeps aren't moving

[rare bramble]

SMH shiro, this isnt #neurotic-neurons you cant spread misinfo like that

[real sierra]

[rare bridge]

and now the website doesn't work
website used cache

[olive sable]

Time to check on my screeps

[opaque wharf]

...website?

[olive sable]

A daily message of the #programming community since shiro invaded

[opaque wharf]

Cloud, I need answers, WHAT WEBSITE? DID YOU CODE A WHOLE WEBSERVER IN SCREEPS?

[rare bridge]

guys i think my creeps are dead

[rare bramble]

I have a debug print for seeing if the memory was loaded on startup so I can check if global memory is retained

[glass flower]

screeps is just a website... you know...

[olive sable]

Screeps is 502'ing me

[rare bridge]

502 bad creep

[opaque wharf]

No, I though cloud somehow managed to get his idea of calling web api works in a twisted way

[rare bridge]

oh

[olive sable]

80 TABS

[rare bridge]

i can't even sign up

[opaque wharf]

...you don't have more than 50?

[rare bridge]

can't even log in these days mhm

[olive sable]

Who the fuck is angie?

[olive sable]

No, i did have 120 bookmarks when i was working on my paper tho

[rare bridge]

the server

[opaque wharf]

After 3 digits it'll just display 99+

[rare bridge]

(it's an nginx fork)

[olive sable]

Angie is the servers name?

[rare bridge]

:D

[opaque wharf]

A software name, yes

[olive sable]

The server is a woman

[olive sable]

I only have 40 now

[opaque wharf]

[lapis wraith]

At one point in my old phone, i had so may tabs open, It just said "∞"

[olive sable]

[rare bramble]

there was a time when I consistently had 550+ tabs open at any one time, I have since trimmed it down to only 90

[real sierra]

I used to be good with tabs but I'm getting worse over time

[olive sable]

Brother yall are the reason we need more ram to play games

[real sierra]

I need to do another purge

[rare bridge]

it's happy now

[real sierra]

general rule of thumb, if I can't remember what's in a tab before clicking it, then I won't ever reference it again

[opaque wharf]

On desktop, I've mitigated the habit somewhat by the extension Tab Session Manager

[lapis wraith]

That's why now I rock 64GB of RAM

[opaque wharf]

I don't dare to look at the exported json size tho

[olive sable]

Same, i got 4x16 3600 now

[lapis wraith]

[rare bridge]

screeps returns

ish

[rare bramble]

the memory wasnt wiped

[real sierra]

cloud using all their memory

it's so over

[rare bridge]

me when my init takes 17ms

[olive sable]

My screeps are upgrading now

[real sierra]

my GCL is going up quick, I'm like a third of the way to GCL3

[rare bridge]

when i get home i'll probably work on why my tower does nothing at all

[real sierra]

mad?

[rare bridge]

also screeps on mobile is terrible

[glass flower]

i only use it to check up on things

nothing more...

you can't even select overlapping things

[real sierra]

were you hoping to do strenuous JavaScript development on your phone

[rare bridge]

me modifying my compiled js code expecting it to persist

[real sierra]

my only mobile support complaint is that the button to open the sidebar in the docs is miniscule

[lapis wraith]

Go one step further. Use screeps in a quest 3

[real sierra]

I wonder if I should've checked on my screeps

I didn't actually look at them this morning

just verified I didn't have any urgent emails from screeps

[rare bridge]

i'd check for you if i could

wait i might be able to ish

nvm

mobile is bad

[real sierra]

I do kinda wonder how my new room is doing

[glass flower]

i have like 30 emails from screeps

[real sierra]

idk how much they got built

[glass flower]

because everytime i recompile my cpu limit is hit so it sends me a email for it after an hour

[rare bridge]

got to your room

shiro what is your strategy here

[real sierra]

?

idk I'm just letting the creeps figure it out

I haven't placed anything in that room by hand

[rare bridge]

tell them to do better smh

i see defence against the natural wall is going well

[glass flower]

can you only own a second room with gcl 2

[real sierra]

one room per Gcl

you can reserve neutral rooms but it's kinda pricy in my experience

[glass flower]

but you can probably claim more than that?

[real sierra]

no

you can reserve more

[glass flower]

isn't it just a bot with claim and move? to reserve

[real sierra]

but only claim/own up to your GCL

[real sierra]

yes but the stats are abysmal

[olive sable]

I have provincie 4 hours on screeps mobile now

[glass flower]

why?

[real sierra]

one CLAIM part costs 600 and lets you increase the reservation counter by 1 per tick

also, creeps with those parts can't be refreshed

[glass flower]

so.. i should just rather have a bunch of miners in multiple rooms than claiming a room for the 3k source?

[real sierra]

the reservation counter, of course, drops naturally by 1 per tick, so

if you don't claim the room, you can't build much

containers and roads only

[glass flower]

i mean.. that is enough

[real sierra]

but otherwise there's nothing saying you can't operate in a neutral room

reserving the controller prevents other people from claiming it, I suppose

to avoid someone wandering in and grabbing your room while you're using it

it's kinda a losing battle there by virtue of lower GCL

[olive sable]

[glass flower]

i guess

[real sierra]

I'm not sure if neutral rooms get invaders

something worth checking

[glass flower]

they don't but if you claim it then they will

basically anything bordering neutral rooms can get invaders from that entry

[real sierra]

[glass flower]

(but judging from me not being invaded once yet... not so sure about it )

there is a spawn in the room next to me... maybe that is preventing invaders?

[rare bridge]

i've also not been invaded yet from what i can tell

[glass flower]

"can appear only at exits to neutral rooms. "

[real sierra]

that makes me think they can appear in neutral rooms then

[opaque wharf]

So having a roman wall neighbor helps

[real sierra]

if that's the only condition aside from energy collection

but if there's an RCL requirement then maybe not

[olive sable]

Hi konii

[sage crag]

topologically equivalent but geometrically, square must also have two sets of two parallel sides, which meet the other set at right angles

[sage crag]

awa

[olive sable]

[warm star]

I was waiting for someone to finally answer this, smart

I knew this, I just enjoy fuckin with people

And this is a perfect place where I get lots of people replying to one thing, it's really amazing

People here are cool

[olive sable]

Imo squares should be convex too

[tender river]

topological equivalents

[sage crag]

regular polygons are convex yeah

[olive sable]

Ye

[sage crag]

the same also applies to regular polyhedra

[tender river]

thats when type theorists come in "see this is literally the same as dependent types"

[olive sable]

I love it when things are convex
I DESPISE the non-convex shapes

[sage crag]

the humble star

⭐

[olive sable]

The humble "star" is not star shaped

Hes a fake and a fraud and i HATE him

[sage crag]

concave hull

[tender river]

type theorists can have a star as a treat

programmers cant i refuse to give it to them

[sage crag]

im nort giving you a star just because you say so

[olive sable]

Circles are just polygons with infinite vertices

[sage crag]

so is a straight line

also a square

also any other polygon

[olive sable]

While not actually concave, they're colinear which makes them mid

[sage crag]

from the perspective of the surface of the circle the shape is always concave

[olive sable]

?

From the perspective of the surface of the circle?

[sage crag]

draw tangent line at any point on circle

if it doesnt touch the circle aside from the tangent point, then its concave at that point

[opaque wharf]

konii is a starknight confirmed

[sage crag]

repeat for all points

[tender river]

what if i ask nicely

[sage crag]

can confirm by induction that circle must be concave

[sage crag]

maybe

[olive sable]

What? I dont see how this makes a curcme concave?

[tender river]

please konii i'll treasure it forever 🥺

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

it doesnt, its a false proof deliberately meant to mislead

[olive sable]

Konii im so confused rn

[sage crag]

it worked

[opaque wharf]

The point can only go "down"

[olive sable]

What does that even mean?

[opaque wharf]

Imagine: A circle

[olive sable]

I am

[tender river]

how can a proof be false when you can build two balls out of one ball (all of the same size) maths isnt real you can make it up as you go

[opaque wharf]

Now imagine: A tangent line passing a single point on said circle

[sage crag]

the actual definition of concave and convex on lines are based on the gradient. by this logic if we consider the gradient of the surface of the circle: x = -sin(t), y=cos(t)

[olive sable]

Like an infinitly long line or one with a start?

[opaque wharf]

Whatever works, The fact that it is tangent and passing said point is what matter

[olive sable]

I still dont get it

[sage crag]

sin(t) and cos(t) are both concave and convex at multiple points, and thus we can conclude that a circle is both convex and concave (based on where you are on the circle)

[olive sable]

Konii i have made an executive decision that circles are convex

[tender river]

i see some programmers havent been pleased by this info but its ok programmers can have copy paste instead

[sage crag]

type theorists dont need copy paste because they know isomorphisms

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

Parametric equation my beloved

[olive sable]

What are yall even doing with tangentual lines?

[sage crag]

the falseness is this proof is it doesnt consider dy/dx, only dy/dt, dx/dt

[olive sable]

Konii i still have no clue what you're yapping about so your false proofs arent even being understood by me

[sage crag]

we can easily fix this by dividing dy/dt by dx/dt, which gets use -1/tan(t), which is infact concave excluding discontinuities

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

i didnt check the graph but just trust me

[oblique moon]

If you put QED and a checkmark at the end I’ll trust you.

[olive sable]

I still am of the opinion vircles are convex, and i dont care about your proofs

All the proof i need is my massive brain

[opaque wharf]

"The proof is left as an exercise for the reader" The exercise being one of the millennium prize problem

[sage crag]

□ QED ✓ ~♡☆

[oblique moon]

Say no more.

[tender river]

chatgpt style proof

[sage crag]

oh wait i forgot its just -cot(x), which is concave except at discontinuities like i said

im so smart

hence circle is concave

[tender river]

i realized so many problems can be solved by copy pasting

polymorphism? nah just copy paste

unfortunately recursion says no

(but i didn't ask)

[olive sable]

Nah

https://tenor.com/view/saul-your-honor-my-client-nuh-uh-gif-11334700374005151603

[sage crag]

you forced me to think about tangents of lines :ReallyMad:

[olive sable]

We are using these definitions no??

[sage crag]

erm, i get convex and concave switched around a lot

so basically just accept what im saying at face value and dont think

[olive sable]

Then its convex at that point

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Circles are convex

[sage crag]

proof by graphical calculator

[sage crag]

same proof but in words (switch concave and convex)

[olive sable]

Im going now

Bye

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Circles are convex

Dont care about your proofs

[sage crag]

i agree with you i just switched convex and concave

[olive sable]

[tender river]

nope its final circles are concave

[stoic ruin]

good morning everyone, well morning for me. not sure about everyone else. ive been making changes to my code all morning

[tender river]

konii wouldnt lie to us would she

actually easy way to remember convex and concave - simplex rhymes with convex

[olive sable]

3pm is basicly morning

If i wasnt on vacation idd wake up at 4pm probably

[opaque wharf]

Not helping

At least for me

[sage crag]

i dont like to remember the simplex algorithm

[rare bramble]

I got the miners to build their own containers

they first use their resources to build a container and then when built, they will keep storing resources into that container

the spawn and controller will be starved of energy for a bit but I think that's fine

it's only 5k energy

the plan is to have runners that do all the moving so that I can be more efficient with parts

my creep state machine is starting to pay off

[olive sable]

Airport

[tender river]

i made my own

ok i dont like that it took me 40 minutes

[sage crag]

[tender river]

i have two books on mathematical optimization, one about writing BASIC programs and one that i picked up and then spent 5 hours on the first 10 pages

i liked what i read though

[olive sable]

Decoded to print getFreeCapacity cuz it wouldnt work

Where the fuck is it getting 158 from????

[tender river]

i wanted to give the star to neuro but her head is too concave

[olive sable]

Bro its full, wdym 202??

[stark needle]

me when screeps

[olive sable]

I fixed le bug

[tender river]

i was able to use neuro's ribbons as a star holder

[sage crag]

eat her

[tender river]

i will, in fact, NOT do that

[olive sable]

The spawn was just gering copied once into the screep and never updated. So 202 was the number of the spawn free space when the screep got created

[tender river]

maybe we can reach a compromise, eat the star deal or no deal

[sage crag]

this is acceptable

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Star

[sage crag]

[tender river]

the proof of star's concaveness is in the eating

[olive sable]

Im getting -7 invalid target for the controller

Thats prob why everything is dying

-9 now smh

Not in range, bro just move there then

At least this one is ez to fix

[nocturne olive]

The 3090 appears to have taken about 3-4 hours on the first part of training, and was easily able to sustain 24 batch size while only using 17GB of VRAM

On NeuroSynth with increased feature level

[olive sable]

3-4 hours is not that much

You could prob invrease batch size too

I fixed my screeps

Wdym 413/200????

Why does everything keep breaking???

[stark needle]

Bros even playing on the phone, what

[olive sable]

Im at more than enough progress

[olive sable]

Playing on phone sucks ass, but i cant use a pc in the airport and i need to fix bugs beford they all die

[nocturne olive]

Yeah, definitely, probably for next run

[olive sable]

@real sierra help, my room controller progress is at 413/200

[nocturne olive]

By the way, this is the first time we're training NeuroSynth with breathiness and energy embeds, so will be interesting to see how those work out

[olive sable]

Imm getting the problem where if the carry is empty it only collects 1 and hoes back yo work

Imma need to use a variable for if its collecting or working instead ig

[desert wave]

hoes back yo, sounds like a good time