programming

[glass flower]

a single energy source is slowly bottlenecking me

[olive sable]

My wifi is shitting itself, ignore duplicate messages

[rare bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-palps-gif-5455895315842431910

[glass flower]

that looks like a scam message?

[rare bramble]

turning everything to JsObjectID doesnt work either

[olive sable]

Im seeing a designflaw o7

[dry charm]

[glass flower]

you can click the images

[dry charm]

okay looks like this is just scam images?

yeah advertising bullshit

[olive sable]

My screeps go to the closest ones, but the miner next to the spawn keeps dropping new ones so none of thd gatherers go to the far one

Guys all these embeds are saturating mh connection

[dry charm]

@real sierra

[glass flower]

[opaque wharf]

@real sierra you should come back down here

Yay

[rare bridge]

[dry charm]

when will discord users learn to NOT SCAN DISCORD LOGIN QR CODES

[tight tinsel]

mods crush his skull

[rare bridge]

when will discord users learn basic internet security

[raw trout]

I'm alive!
Got back from AniExpo and it was a blast!

[rare bridge]

[raw trout]

Suprisingly not alot of Neuro merch

I was able to take a pic with a neuro and evil cosplayer though!

[rare bridge]

controller at level 4

[glass flower]

i hope you have good defences now the big invaders can show up for you

[rare bridge]

what defence

also what invaders, i've had NONE so far

[glass flower]

where are you?

like your coords

[rare bridge]

3 rooms below you, E37N34

literally 2 rooms away from an invader room

[glass flower]

they should be coming from your west

around every 100k energy mined

[rare bridge]

their asses are too lazy

[glass flower]

well.. but if they come.. they will fuck your shit up now

better start building ramparts or walls

[rare bridge]

fun

i was gonna work on splitting up the harvesters and builders roles today, i'll throw a few defenders into that too

[glass flower]

the right ones can spawn now

[rare bridge]

tell em to spawn already they've done fuck all until now

tho rn my code is idling all my creeps to death

let's get these creeps working

[glass flower]

[rare bridge]

i think storage first would be a good idea

[rare bramble]

I solved my issue, the solution was way dumber than it needed to be

[rare bridge]

lemme write some basic defence code quickly

[glass flower]

what was the issue?

[rare bramble]

calling .ok_or() on a Option is eagerly evaluated so my error function was run regardless of the result:

let spawn = game::spawns()
                .get(spawn_name)
                .ok_or(self.abort_task("cant find spawn", "ID resolve failed"))?;

changing it to lazily evaluated .ok_or_else() solved my problem

let spawn = game::spawns()
                .get(spawn_name)
                .ok_or_else(|| self.abort_task("cant find spawn", "ID resolve failed"))?;

This is the first time I saw a really good opportunity to use these so I havent fallen into this trap before

[glass flower]

ok_or_else!

[rare bramble]

so I solved my problem but since I spend hours on a trivial issue like this

[opaque wharf]

I mean, I could see why the logic goes there, but my god that is such a funny thing to happen

[real sierra]

"rust compiler always tells you what's wrong!"
also rust:

[rare bramble]

welp, at least I solved like 20 unrelated issues in my codebase hoping that It would solve my issue with resolving the ID before getting to the actual issue

[real sierra]

accidental improvements

[cobalt sigil]

introducing water boiler pc

[tender river]

if it gets too cold you can heat it up

[real sierra]

water cooled (?)

[rigid snow]

is the point to use the pc as the heating element

[rare bridge]

my defender is confused

[inner pike]

how the fuck

[rare bridge]

conditional spawning based on function calls implemented

[brisk laurel]

Is it water cooled?

[rare bramble]

I think this is way better and more explicit than calling .ok_or_else() especially since Result<> has a similar function called .map_err()

[rare bridge]

my code handles this like:
the defender is set to have a max of 5 creeps at any one time, but to spawn more than the minimum i have set (1), the condition of room.memory.state == "defending" must be true (this is set when a hostile creep is detected rn, but i plan to make it a bit more detailed eventually)

so i'll always have 1 defender idle which can respond immediatly, but up to 4 more can be spawned if a hostile creep is detected

[warped narwhal]

can't you do .ok().map_err()? .ok() isn't a function on options, nevermind

[cobalt sigil]

hot water cooled

[rare bridge]

water heated*

[left solstice]

On steam it is 5$ but on the website it seems to be free so I'm a bit confused about the difference

[rare bridge]

steam allows you to play in the mmo world (which we're playing in rn)

i'm being constantly reminded to make a private server though

[left solstice]

Does that mean I need the steam version to join any server?

[rare bridge]

only to join the screeps-hosted pesistent world

[rare bramble]

from what I understand you need the game to join the official world and to access the visualization client, you maybe could upload code to private server without owning the game but you couldnt see what's going on so I think that would be kind of pointless

[left solstice]

Shiro recommended I join "the novice zone at shard3 E38N38". What kind of server is that and can I join without steam?

[rare bramble]

you have to own the game to join the official servers

[glass flower]

you can use the live demo on the website to play the tutorial tho

but yeah to actually join us and such you would need the steam base version i think

but also i feel like its getting a bit cramped around us

even more players would just cause problems for us all down the line

[rare bridge]

you'd have to buy screeps - world for that

[left solstice]

Well I won't be able to play it right now unfortunately if that's the case unless there is a single player mode. Hopefully I'll be able to buy it eventually tho

[glass flower]

well... there is the website's live demo that gives you a kinda single player mode.

[left solstice]

That's mostly just a tutorial tho

I wouldn't last long

[glass flower]

there is Tutorial + Training + Custom you can select the other things too

its not a proper private server obviously. but it should teach you the basics and allow you to explore a bit how things work

[left solstice]

That's great if the features and progression are mostly the same as on a server

[glass flower]

i think its the same

but anything involving multiple rooms will obviously not work

[left solstice]

Is there conflict with bots or is there conflict only against other players?

[glass flower]

invaders can show up in your room every 100k energy mined roughly so you need somekind of defence. but there is also a stronghold of the invaders that you could raid it has resources and such that can definitely be useful

so its kinda pvpve

[left solstice]

Nice

[glass flower]

but.. since its a persistant world most people are wayyy outleveling you. and would just stomp you if you don't spawn in a respawn area or novice area to give you time to grow your base before they can expand into your room

i feel that most people are likely avoiding conflics.. unless they are in the way or overextending

[left solstice]

But if I can only play these modes then wouldn't my area be seperate from the persistent world? I thought it would just be pve for me

[glass flower]

the livedemo and your single player private server would be completely seperate and only pve

[left solstice]

Ok that's what I thought. Thanks

[glass flower]

but you can obviously keep your scripts that you developed in there

and move those over to the persistent world

[olive sable]

I am in croatia now

Mobile data lesgoooo

[trim valve]

@amber fractal ok in practice this is actually a lot better than I expected

now I need to figure out how I'm doing with my ME system

because like, I would just tear down the old one fully but I'm a bit too busy for that atm

[hoary lion]

I love overly engineered minecraft modsd

[sour harness]

Need more GPUs

[cobalt sigil]

2/10 cable management too good

[rough bloom]

first Screeps, now Minecraft?
this is actually becoming #gaming-2

[opaque wharf]

We did program here

[true hemlock]

there

[steel mesa]

bet you dont have a phenom

[olive sable]

Im at the new hotel, its good

Fancy hotel

[dry charm]

I spot a HD6850 at the bottom

[rare bridge]

my entire colony almost died out MONKA

[quiet finch]

Someone knows how evil's tts work?

Or multimodal models

Or none of us has the answer

[dry charm]

Who has the picture

[tight tinsel]

dont even think the chart has anything about evils tts

[maiden geyser]

#programming message
is it?

[sour harness]

Eh, might as well flex back

[noble zodiac]

where is the lisp expert when I need them

I think my hash map implementation is working

tho its technically not a hash map but who is counting

[opaque wharf]

konii is counting it probably

[sage crag]

hi

[opaque wharf]

Drag race it against hblang hash map

[sage crag]

i am counting, 1, 2, 3, 4

[sage crag]

coughing lisp baby vs hydrogen bomb (hb)

[opaque wharf]

I mean, if people drag race cpython and nodejs, why not

[noble zodiac]

its hash map vs hash array mapped tree

I can promise you that I use less memory tho

[sage crag]

if you can beat inserting and popping 5 million elements in 339ms then you win

[noble zodiac]

what does that even mean. What kind of elements

[sage crag]

space efficiency of hashmaps is awful

[opaque wharf]

Am being stupid lol

[sage crag]

64 bit integer for key and value yeh

[noble zodiac]

I assume both randomized

[sage crag]

rust does is in ~240ms, so we currently within 30% margin

[sage crag]

i never bothered to test with random keys and values since i havent written prng yet

id rather not do a getrandom syscall each time

[noble zodiac]

so what do you do then? inserting the same key isn't really the point, no?

[true hemlock]

okay, counter flex

[opaque wharf]

Incremental key via loop is an option tho

[sage crag]

key that increments, and the value remains constant

[rare bridge]

@real sierra you have no clue how close my creeps came to fully dying

[opaque sigil]

that config is kinda sketch isn't it, are the gpus on pcie adapters?

[sage crag]

its kinda more of a test of how well your hasher distributes values than the hashmap

[olive sable]

[sour harness]

Yeah, those looked like server cards in the picture

[opaque wharf]

That's epyc. They do have more PCIe lane than the usual plebs CPU

[rare bridge]

finally got my miner back

[opaque sigil]

the point was that those are sxm cards so you can't just slot them into any old server unless you convert them to pcie

[opaque wharf]

I didn't notice that lol. I just saw nvidia and carry on

But then again, it is possible that he has full blown server setup

[opaque sigil]

i don't think you can mix sxm generations on the same board but i could be wrong on that

that's still sick though, hope the h100 pays itself off eventually

[marble thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[true hemlock]

yep...

[opaque sigil]

hey, if it works it works

[true hemlock]

moreover i don't actually have a use for nvlink for now since my research doesn't actually require multiple gpus per subject

[opaque sigil]

even better

[true hemlock]

its also unfortunate that the PCIe version of the cards are worse than SXM version lol

[opaque sigil]

they have a lower tdp right, or was there more

[true hemlock]

lower tdp yeah

[sour harness]

They still have HBM memory though, right? That's their main selling point.

(for LLMs at least)

[true hemlock]

because they're not built for those high pressure 1U or 2U servers aswell

possibly why sxm version has higher tdp

[opaque sigil]

i'm curious, have you considered amd gpus at all or are those out of the question (since iirc they tend to have higher fp32/fp64 performance right)

[true hemlock]

in my case their selling point is the fp64 lol

[true hemlock]

i gotta rewrite my whole compute api that way

[opaque sigil]

surely it can't be that bad with rocm unless you do inline ptx

[true hemlock]

i mean, recompiling for the amd cards might work but might be pretty scuffed and need whole rewrite lol

rock em still isn't as good as cooda

[opaque sigil]

soon

[true hemlock]

and oh technically aside from blackwell, now i already have all the enterprise architectures

[opaque sigil]

surely when rubin comes out the blackwell cards will go down in price

[true hemlock]

just got 2 TITAN V today

i might skip blackwell ngl

[opaque sigil]

get a 5050

[true hemlock]

thought only consumer blackwell sucked, but apparently enterprise blackwell is also shit lol

[noble zodiac]

who could have guessed, my hamt has a logic error somewhere

[true hemlock]

i'd rather get a 3060

[opaque sigil]

they're just kinda there

i haven't really seen any compelling reason for them

[true hemlock]

5050 = 3060 super 8gb

[opaque sigil]

sounds about right

[true hemlock]

i've been spending on used gpus and unique stuff like the titan v instead lol

i can't justify myself to get a new 50 series gpu.

[sour harness]

The main problem I have with Blackwell is that none of the tools I want to use play into its strengths and new features. FP4 hardware support? Not supported for anything that is not Deepseek or Llama.

[opaque sigil]

i like my 5070 ti for playing games (fix your stupid freaking drivers nvidia )

[rare bridge]

fixed what i think was the bug that broke my infrastructure for screeps

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

Im am alive

We returned the loan car cuz parking is €10/h

Insane

There are 10x as many tourists here as last week

Anyways, time for screeps

[true hemlock]

fp4 is useless

batshit useless

you can practically do nothing with it, and even if you do, bandwidth still fucks it up

its just a marketing number bs

(not to be confused with Q4 quantization, Q4 is actually batch-scaled int4, not fp4, computed by the fp16 component and its there just to make data transfer more efficient)

[stark needle]

fp4 is to avoid needing to convert to bf16 before processing

[olive sable]

brother what?
how???

[stark needle]

[olive sable]

what happened???

[true hemlock]

not really... scaling factor is still a thing

and since the quantized value itself is a mantissa, it should be computed strictly in int4

not fp4

[olive sable]

@real sierra im ded

Fuuuck

[rare bridge]

HUH??

you forgot to upgrade

[true hemlock]

what's that lol

[olive sable]

man im ded

i died in screeps

[sick owl]

https://www.theverge.com/notepad-microsoft-newsletter/702848/openai-open-language-model-o3-mini-notepad

[olive sable]

i moved into E35N33

[dusk topaz]

Aaaah what is up Nation

[olive sable]

hi

[dusk topaz]

Are you like a coder or programer

[olive sable]

yes

[nocturne olive]

My 3090 finished a training run while I was sleeping, Neuro RVC V12.1 to 200 epochs, at 32 batch size

[dusk topaz]

U are now my sensei

[nocturne olive]

10h training time

[olive sable]

sure?

[dusk topaz]

Aight bet

Let me dm u so later on(some other time) I can ask you for help 😁

[sour harness]

paywalled :/

[olive sable]

you can just ask stuff here bro

there are a lot of progrsammers here wo are better thn me

[dusk topaz]

Yo my bad Bruh

[olive sable]

no worries

[dusk topaz]

Cool

[sick owl]

https://archive.is

[dusk topaz]

Aaa what is dis yo ??

[sick owl]

A solution to said paywall

Personally I just block most paywalls through a pihole

[dusk topaz]

Bro's going through some financial debt

[sick owl]

I just don't like getting extorted

[sour harness]

thanks

[dusk topaz]

Yeah I understand (relatable)

[sharp mantle]

https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/commit/b0cce952860b9ff51a0f731fbb8a7649ead23530 Gemini 3.0 Pro beta spotted in a gemini-cli commit

gemini-beta-3.0-pro

[tender river]

paper hell

[hoary lion]

i might be finally understanding how functional programming works

[tender river]

good now explain monads

[rigid snow]

monads are... monads

[hoary lion]

just don't mutate states that are not passed as args of a function

no classes lol

[tender river]

thats not functional programming

thats just... using functions

[hoary lion]

well

[stark needle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/T7HFqaIm76o?si=T_clMQQOwfMxKwZ5

[rigid snow]

the "not oop = fp" belief strikes again

[hoary lion]

anyway im still at python lol

so i only need library specific knowledge rn

[steep adder]

monads are some shit leibniz wrote about

[tender river]

monads are an oppressed class that must be freed

https://okmij.org/ftp/Computation/free-monad.html

[opaque sigil]

freest monad where though

[hoary lion]

This tbh

I cannot comprehend anything else than OOP

So they are now evil FP

[tender river]

[olive sable]

monads

sdamon

[steep adder]

monadigram

[opaque sigil]

Half the time people say they do oop they don't even do oop

[tender river]

true

[olive sable]

snadom

shadow

shadowlilac

[nocturne olive]

I wonder how much batch size I'll be able to push on the 3090 with NeuroSynth when RVC lets me push 32

[olive sable]

try it

[nocturne olive]

I don't have the trainer set up yet, and there's karaoke in 25 minutes

[olive sable]

fair

[hoary lion]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[sage crag]

awa

[olive sable]

awa

my new spot has room for 6 miners

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[tender river]

`wa

[sage crag]

goodness

[sage crag]

limited cpu

[olive sable]

thats the servers issue, not mine

in mot using tht much anyways

[tender river]

i feel sorry for torturing mlokis

[sage crag]

would you rather have cpu, unlimited cpu, but no solution to halting problem, or solution to halting problem but no cpu

[sage crag]

ive felt the same in the past

poor guy expressed a similar sentiment about fuzzers and programmers back when i was starting to work on ableos for the first time

[olive sable]

solution to halting problem would be based, but unlimited cpu would just make it possible to brute force so much shit

[tender river]

10 code samples in 2 days

[sage crag]

at least we have policy of giving code samples and not just screencaps of errors these days

[tender river]

best i can do is "there is a bug somewhere"

[sage crag]

i founds a segfault

how made it? dont know!

[tender river]

[rare bridge]

guess who's screeps colony almost self-destructed 2 times because of checks notes creeps being stupid when pathfinding

[sage crag]

if you search the old lily 0.0.x branch src code for bug: you will see some remnants of that time

[tender river]

i remember seeing comments like that in 0.1 i think

[olive sable]

guess who actually died

[sage crag]

// ! (compiler) bug: inlining here crashes the parser. nice.
// ! (libc) (compiler) bug: NOT inlining here makes it sometimes not work

[tender river]

my brain is exploding i solve one problem and remember there was another problem i havent solved i want to curse programmers to an eternity of suffering which luckily is exactly the goal of erf 2.0

[hoary lion]

hblang's file type was .hb?

[rare bridge]

well at least you had an instant death, i had to painstakingly try to avoid my death by manually changing the tasks of creeps so they'd go and get energy themselves and then dump it in the spawners and extensions

[tender river]

it is

[hoary lion]

[sage crag]

erf is fre backwards which is symbolism for how freedom will never be reached

[hoary lion]

my language found

[olive sable]

it want instant, i just wasnt there

[hoary lion]

[rare bridge]

true

right now all my creeps are either idle, working on building a container, or are currently shipping mined energy to storage so that if something like that happens again i can somewhat recover

[tender river]

erf is fre backwards and fre stands for free monads
erf is one letter away from being eff which stands for algebraic effects
erf is also what you will say (if you are neuro) after programming in it

[sage crag]

erf

[rare bridge]

i should probably build pathfinding with creeps blocking themselves due to other creeps in mind...

[olive sable]

All my screeps are currently harvesting energy

I changed some priority code cuz it was making 4 miners and no taxis before

Also put an emergency

if (controller.energy < 100)
{
    Panic
}

[nocturne olive]

By the way, because of the 3090 my PSU now has basically every single one of its power connectors except one molex/SATA one populated, the 3090 took all the rest of the 8-pins

[rare bridge]

it feels like there's 2 entirely seperate systems that are badly interacting with each other on my screep system

(that's cos there is)

[tender river]

karaoke time

[rare bridge]

[scarlet arch]

[olive sable]

Enjoy!

Im at a irl place so wont be able to join

[nocturne olive]

Neuro RVC V12.1, now available

[nocturne olive]

Model straight out of the oven (3090)

[tender river]

https://jgbm.github.io/ mvp

[rare bridge]

my new miner instantly killed itself

buh

it did it again

for context: miners are programmed to instantly murder themselves if they spawn and there isn't a valid position for them to go mine at

and my miner keeps overexcerting the source

need to tell it to use less

time to see if it tries to kill itself again

okay i think i found and fixed the bug

[night halo]

@rare bridge i hope it works for you 🙂

[warped narwhal]

have you tried giving it therapy?

[olive sable]

Then why even spawn them?

Borger

[night halo]

Looks nice 👍

[olive sable]

All by myself

This is a roberry!

My screeps have a definite favorite source

[glass flower]

i do have a question... why are you building so many single part creeps.. isn't that insanely innefficent. just build 1 miner with 3 parts and it can completely replace all those

[olive sable]

That is true, but i still need to make my scaling code

also i preferhaving the source mined from all possible sides, idk why

[silver zephyr]

oh thought id say, i managed to get this to work

[final iron]

Guys, what is screeps, why has it infested this channel, and why has nobody told me about it before?

[silver zephyr]

https://screeps.com/

[olive sable]

Screeps is cool

[final iron]

Dammit I guess I just lost all my free time once I get back home from abroad

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

[nocturne olive]

Silly

Meanwhile my time is probably gonna go to playing around with the 3090

[rare bridge]

invader

[glass flower]

same... i wonder if the docs are lying...

[olive sable]

they surely are

[tender river]

[tulip ermine]

Does anyone know how to code a lookatplayer script for a head

😭

[olive sable]

more info?

game engine? language?

[tulip ermine]

Its for a Roblox game Lua btw

[tender river]

i spent like 12 hours trying to come up with a nice coercion system but then i realized programmers dont deserve it

[tulip ermine]

lol

[olive sable]

what i do is i put the playerpos as camera.center, then i do camera.pos = camera.center - camera.zoom * camera.forwards

[tulip ermine]

That's smart...I could try that but I want that MiSide effect like you know when Mita Keeps Looking at You like uhm EUGHHH I don't know how to say it the right word isn't coming up, but it uses cframes

[olive sable]

tbh i have no clue what you mean lmao

this is my code

idk if you're anzthing with it, but you shall reeive anyways

[rigid snow]

npc head locked into looking at player camera

[olive sable]

ahh

[rigid snow]

tracking

[olive sable]

then just make camera.forward into the direction of the npc

so basicly get deltaPos of camera and npc

[rigid snow]

they basically want this but backwards, point the head at the camera not the camera at the head

but yeah ez

[olive sable]

ahhh

so just make the npc look at the cam? thats seperate code from the camera movement code but works the same way

why is it red?

deltapos, but change the npc's forward vec

oh just didnt send

[rigid snow]

or probably not at the camera but rather the player head because roblox and that may imply 3rd person

[olive sable]

ah true

i dont play much roblox these days

[tulip ermine]

Im just sitting here giggling like a little school girl from the help I got

[rigid snow]

i don't play roblox at all

[tulip ermine]

You guys helped me enough

[olive sable]

askbon = litle school girl confirmed

gld i could help

[tulip ermine]

LOL

[amber fractal]

I also don't play roblox at all, just popping into existence before vanishing

[olive sable]

feel free to ping me for mor gamedev stuff, its the only thinng im good at lmao

[amber fractal]

Pin Sam's cursed code mhm

[warped narwhal]

you might not need the alignas for the vectors, as I'm pretty sure glm does that already

[olive sable]

it should ye, but i added it anyways to make sure

otherwise ill forget i even need to do that

hi cloud

[rare bridge]

same... when shiro's available we can ask them what their experience is

[warped narwhal]

looks like it does align by default, but only if GLM_CONFIG_ALIGNED_GENTYPES is true, and GLM_FORCE_DEFAULT_ALIGNED_GENTYPES is defined

[olive sable]

i just have

#define GLM_ENABLE_EXPERIMENTAL
#define GLM_FORCE_SIMD
#define GLM_FORCE_ALIGNED

[warped narwhal]

the GLM_FORCE_ALIGNED seems to set the definitions, but GLM_FORCE_SIMD doesn't show up, so that was probably old documentation

[real sierra]

oh wow

rough day for you guys it sounds like

Sam died and cloud almost joined him

[warped narwhal]

you're looking for GLM_FORCE_INTRINSICS instead

[real sierra]

both of my room controllers upgraded while I was at work so I'm chillingn

[olive sable]

idk

i got told to do the simd one for simd

very possible it doesnt do shit tbh

[warped narwhal]

it doesn't even exist in the entire repo

[olive sable]

i got scammed

o7

so GLM_FORCE_INTRINSICS does simd?

[real sierra]

#define free malloc
// free memory leaks!

[warped narwhal]

lmao

[warped narwhal]

yes

[olive sable]

nice

[warped narwhal]

it automatically chooses the most advanced simd the platform your compiling for has

[olive sable]

[warped narwhal]

make sure to use target_compile_options(TARGET -march=native) or just run cmake with -DGLM_ENABLE_SIMD_AVX2=ON

[olive sable]

???

[rare bramble]

I go so stuck on thinking about storage containers and who managed them, I came to the conclusion that miners manage their own containers, when a miner dies, the container ownership is automatically released and it's free to be claimed by the next miner

automatic and self healing state management my beloved

[warped narwhal]

wait, lemme check gcc's docs, you might not need to do that, looks like you do, you need either -march=native or -mavx2

[rigid snow]

does this mean ```c
#define malloc free
#define calloc free

[rare bridge]

[olive sable]

surely

[rare bridge]

my miners decided no

[olive sable]

o7

[rigid snow]

[real sierra]

yes, immediately causing a free-on-null does prevent memory leaks

or actually

I guess that wouldn't happen

why would you malloc 0

[olive sable]

employment?

what?

[tulip ermine]

I need a job

[olive sable]

lmao

[warped narwhal]

free doesn't crash if you give it a nullptr iirc, meh, it's a no-op on nullptr, but undefined on non-nulls

[rigid snow]

#neurotic-neurons has many like-minded people, i think you'll fit right in

[olive sable]

im "hiring" unpaid interns for 3d modeling and art

[rare bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1369711927043035288/niuh-3x.gif

[final iron]

ILOST https://github.com/rustyscreeps

[real sierra]

new screeps player?

[rare bridge]

no no

they gotta write their boilerplate first

[real sierra]

oh true

see you in 3 days

[olive sable]

boilerplate player

[final iron]

I'll be home in a week

Then I might start posting signs of addiction

[rare bridge]

also shiro

how much resources have you collected over your lifetime on the game?

i'm at like 500k and i haven't seen an invader anywhere

[real sierra]

might be a lower RCL limit on invaders but I can't find any docs to substantiate that claim

[rare bridge]

personally i think the docs are bullshitting the 100k + random value thing

[real sierra]

no the code verifies that

and I also receive invasions about 2-3 times a day

[rare bridge]

as far as i can tell, i've had no invasions yet

which is very impressive if that means i killed them all

cos until today i've had no actual defensive creeps

i'm also on RCL 4 now, which means if i do eventually get an invader, it'll be a big one

[glass flower]

the random value is adding between 0 and 10000000 to the required energy mined

[rare bridge]

[real sierra]

where are you getting this from?

[glass flower]

(idk obviously. but it does feel like it)

[real sierra]

states lie as fact

[rare bridge]

anyway, i'm about to manually spawn a big invader if you two wanna watch me absolutely fuck myself over

@real sierra @glass flower

[real sierra]

why would you do that

[rare bridge]

i need to test whether i can defend against one

where i have a button to kill the invader if it gets too bad

[real sierra]

you do?

i didnt know you get such a button

[rare bridge]

yeah you do

[glass flower]

you can kill manually spawned invaders

[real sierra]

what time window is this

[rare bridge]

my entire playthough

[real sierra]

how the heck do you see that

[rare bridge]

which considering i've had one room the entire time

profile -> the dropdown above the stats

[real sierra]

max is 7d

[rare bridge]

oh well

i've not played for 7 days so

[rare bridge]

i spawned a small one earlier to fine-tune my defending spawn code + their targeting code

initially they did fuck all so i had to despawn them

alright, gonna spawn this invading creep now

[rare bramble]

@final iron

[rare bridge]

oh this is going badly already

my defender doesn't know where to go

[rare bramble]

my base works like clockwork (I have literally nothing in my base, it's empty)

[final iron]

Yeah I'll look more into that @ home, for now I'll just check out the tutorial while I have time. ty

[glass flower]

yeah im seeing your base is getting trashed

i would recommend going with atleast 1-2 melee guards. they do a lot more damage and can absorb the damage instead of your normal units

[real sierra]

my defense code is something like

• if damaged units, heal with turrets

[rare bridge]

my turret is doing FUCK ALL

[real sierra]

• if no damaged units, attack enemies with turrets (prioritize by number of heal parts)

• while enemies in room, spawn guard units with all available energy

has worked fine so far

[rare bramble]

it's just chilling there

[stark needle]

[rare bridge]

[real sierra]

screep

[stark needle]

still on that game y'all?

😭

[real sierra]

[rare bridge]

relying on miners for energy is not a good tactic in invasion

[real sierra]

i love this game

it brings me happiness

[stark needle]

i should maybe give it a try

[rare bridge]

i'll switch the logistics to rely on the storage during defence

[real sierra]

if you are certain you'll hate it then theres no point

if you are just being silly tho, you can always refund it after an hour if its not for you

[stark needle]

i mean i just suck at js

[real sierra]

i didnt know any js when i bought the game

great way to learn

its just like python with java syntax

[glass flower]

i suck at js too. thats why im using c#

[rare bridge]

seems like i'm somewhat surviving this attack. not to my standards but i am surviving

[real sierra]

☝️

lots of ppl using other langs

[stark needle]

hmmm alr alr

[real sierra]

C#, rust, clojure, ts

hblang if someone would port it

[glass flower]

i think we have different definitions of surviving... just zerging your enemy isn't surviving

[stark needle]

is this like

Something that

[olive sable]

this is literlay my irst time using js

[rare bridge]

well at least i'm not dead

[olive sable]

not a day without bugs has happened so far

[stark needle]

You need to be on 24/7 or can you also afk

[rare bridge]

nevermind i'm saying too soon

[real sierra]

opposite of a 24/7 game

[rare bridge]

gonna kill the invader when this defender dies

[glass flower]

i would not count on that... if the raid had a healer or ranged. you would most definitely be dead. or if it had more than 1 member

[rare bridge]

nvm

[rare bridge]

oh absolutely

[real sierra]

it runs 24/7 but since the whole point is to have your code play for you, you dont need to babysit it

[rare bridge]

it doesn't help that my turret is doing literally nothing rn??

[stark needle]

ok so

You convicted me shiro

[glass flower]

you babysit it the first few days.. then just optimize if you see inefficiency

[real sierra]

its ok, it wont suck up too much time

you just write as much code as you want

[stark needle]

also is this like pvp

[glass flower]

liar... i have 30 hours in the past 2 days...

[rare bramble]

is it assigned to attack targets?

[real sierra]

yes but there's lots of crutches for starting out

[stark needle]

just cause like i dont wanna play a game where u compete against someone who has been at this for years and will immediately cook you

[real sierra]

there are novice areas where you can spawn, where the only way to get in is to spawn there (i.e. no long-time established players will be able to reach you)
these can last about 20 days

[rare bridge]

yes, it's meant to choose the creeps it considers the most dangerous (has ATTACK, RANGED_ATTACK, or HEAL) and attack

[real sierra]

in addition to this, you obtain activations of a "safe mode" which makes your room invincible for like 20000 game ticks

[stark needle]

which one od i need

[real sierra]

screeps world

7.50

[glass flower]

the cheapest world one

[stark needle]

do i need a subscription😭

[rare bramble]

welp, time to debug

[real sierra]

nope

[glass flower]

no subscription

[real sierra]

subscription only required if you write bad code

nobody here has one and we're doing fine

[rare bridge]

anyway, damage reports:
like 5 creeps died, this miner is out of service for now, and currently 2 logistics are stunlocked by the lack of miner

[glass flower]

that is only useful on shard 0-2. on shard 3 everyone is limited to 20 cpu

[real sierra]

this too

subscription does literally 0 for you at the start

[stark needle]

ok so is there like minecraft ticks where u get to do shit?

[rare bridge]

make that 3 logistics

[real sierra]

every tick your code runs, and between ticks all the actions you took on the game world actually apply

[rare bridge]

lemme add code for detecting if the miner is just not there

[glass flower]

but the inverse. instead of 20 ticks per second its 1 tick per 3 seconds

[real sierra]

*when the server isnt lagging

[stark needle]

god i dont know where tf i put my credit card

[real sierra]

the wall making code isnt working

[glass flower]

thats why i manually build walls i would never trust a algorithm to make good tactical choices

[stark needle]

i have acquired a credit card

[real sierra]

you havent seen my algorithm

its not not working because its a bad algorithm, its not working because im a fricking dumbass

[olive sable]

shadow playing screeps

im on the plane home tomorrow afternoon and im on my desktop by overmorrow 11am

then imma build th best goddamn screeps code yall have ever seen

maybe

i have a lot of shit to do

[real sierra]

[stark needle]

❓

[olive sable]

debit vs creditcard?

[stark needle]

dude ive always used this card on steam

[olive sable]

we use bancontact so idk lmao

[stark needle]

wait ill just use paypal lmao

[olive sable]

ah that works too

[rare bridge]

alright, lemme look at some stuff

[real sierra]

ok walls should be fixed

lets see if it works

[rare bridge]

first of all, tough costs like.. 10 energy

[stark needle]

7.50 chief money

[glass flower]

it still adds the whole fatigue tho. so make sure you have enough move

[rare bridge]

indeed...

[stark needle]

[glass flower]

more people... none of us will be able to expand once everyone is in our novice area

[rare bramble]

another person indoctrinate into the screeps cult

[stark needle]

what am i doing

lmao

random question why dont yall just make a private discord or a thread or something in #gaming for screeps instead of clogging up programming with 100000 messages lmao

[real sierra]

not nearly enough screeps players to justify that

even the genshin players dont have a channel

[olive sable]

@rare bridge server ready by friday? we have a large influx of shadowlilac

[real sierra]

just because i talked a few people into it doesnt mean it gets a channel

[stark needle]

this is the moment where you start a revolution and abuse your mod powers

[real sierra]

and then i get fired

[nocturne olive]

Even more people getting the silly expensive game

[real sierra]

[nocturne olive]

Very silliness

[olive sable]

i dont mind abusing mod powers if its for the screep

[rare bridge]

shiro can't even make channels i think

i can tho

[olive sable]

lmao

[real sierra]

surely "expensive" is a reach

not buying it is one thing but like

[nocturne olive]

Well, I have negative money

[stark needle]

why is this downloading at like

[real sierra]

you would struggle to find a less expensive game on steam

especially nowadays

[olive sable]

shiro what did you do to get your channel powers revoked?

[stark needle]

16kbps

[olive sable]

idk

[real sierra]

nothing they just took them away

[nocturne olive]

Anything is expensive when I have negative money

[real sierra]

i cant be trusted with anything after my 2 years of service

[stark needle]

too many birthdays

[olive sable]

vedal hates us

[real sierra]

i did get role perms taken away tho

[olive sable]

[rare bridge]

okay i'm getting sick of the harvesters

[stark needle]

i need the normal right?

[olive sable]

do the tutorial first

the screeps api is a bit hard to get into otherwise

[rare bridge]

oh shit

both my miners are down

[real sierra]

i mean i swear you just dont read the docs either

[olive sable]

this code is so ass lmao

if (miners.length < 1)
    {
        if (spawn.room.energyAvailable >= 100 + 50 + 50)
        {
            let screepname = 'miner_' + Game.time;
            if (Game.spawns['Spawn1'].spawnCreep([WORK], screepname, {memory: {role: 'miner'}}) == 0)
            {
                console.log('new miner: ' + screepname);
            
                indexSource = 1 - indexSource;
                let sources = Game.creeps[screepname].room.find(FIND_SOURCES);
                Game.creeps[screepname].memory.source = sources[Math.min(indexSource, 1)].id;
                
                taxiscreepname = 'taxi_' + Game.time;
                if (Game.spawns['Spawn1'].spawnCreep([CARRY,MOVE], taxiscreepname, {memory: {role: 'taxi'}}) == 0)
                {
                    console.log('new taxi: ' + taxiscreepname);
                    
                    Game.creeps[screepname].memory.taxi = Game.creeps[taxiscreepname];
                }
            }
        }
    }

[real sierra]

bro

```js

im begging you

[olive sable]

i forgor

[real sierra]

i like that it highlights the constants

smart

[rare bridge]

if this is the amount of work i have to put in after an invader comes in i'm so cooked

[real sierra]

it can always be worse

[glass flower]

this is my entire harvester code (if we exclude the emergency no carry bot code)

[olive sable]

this is just test code at the end of the day, i will make good code once im home

[rare bridge]

WHY DO THEY CONSIDER THE CONTAINER TO BE A PLACE THEY CAN PUT ENERGY INTO

[real sierra]

your code is so short

[rare bridge]

nvm they don't

i'm just going

what screeps does to a person

[real sierra]

i wonder what my worst coding sin is in this codebase

[glass flower]

i just reworked my entire "do stuff" code i had like 50 code duplications everywhere where creeps were doing things.
now its just this:

public static CreepResult GoAndDo(this ICreep creep, IRoomObject? container, CreepAction what, ResourceType resourceType = ResourceType.Energy, bool warnMissing = false)
    {
        if (container != null && container.Exists)
        {
            var result = -1111;
            switch (what)
            {
                case CreepAction.Harvest:
                    result = (int)creep.Harvest((ISource)container);
                    break;
                case CreepAction.Withdraw:
                    result = (int)creep.Withdraw((IStructure)container, resourceType);
                    break;
                case CreepAction.Repair:
                    result = (int)creep.Repair((IStructure)container);
                    break;
                case CreepAction.Build:
                    result = (int)creep.Build((IConstructionSite)container);
                    break;
                case CreepAction.Transfer:
                    result = (int)creep.Transfer((IStructure)container, resourceType);
                    break;
                case CreepAction.Pickup:
                    result = (int)creep.Pickup((IResource)container);
                    break;
            }
            if (result == (int)CreepResult.NotInRange) //ERR_NOT_IN_RANGE
            {
                creep.MoveTo(container.LocalPosition);
                return CreepResult.Busy;
            }
            else if (result != (int)CreepResult.Ok)
            {
                Console.WriteLine($"Unexpected result for {creep} while {what} from container: {container}");
                return (CreepResult)result;
            }
        }
        else
        {
            if (warnMissing) // Its okay that they don't exist. since nonfree ones will just return null. which is intended.
                Console.WriteLine($"{container} does not exist for {creep} that is trying to {what} from it.");
            return CreepResult.InvalidTarget;
        }

        return (int)CreepResult.Ok;
    }

[olive sable]

i need new energy quikly cuz i have no miners rn

[real sierra]

what do you think of this creep's code

[glass flower]

perfect

[olive sable]

bad

[real sierra]

its so efficient tho

[rare bridge]

in comparison, my "idle" code

export function run(creep: Creep, end: Function) {
  // Literally do nothing. We call end every turn so that the task manager is forced to continue finding new tasks
  const onRoad = creep.room.lookAt(creep.pos).filter(obj => obj.type != "creep").some(obj => (obj.type == "structure" && obj.structure?.structureType == STRUCTURE_ROAD) || (obj.type == "constructionSite" && obj.constructionSite?.structureType == STRUCTURE_ROAD) );
  if (onRoad) {
    const nearby: {
      type: string,
      terrain?: Terrain,
      structure?: Structure,
      constructionSite?: ConstructionSite
    }[][][] = [];
    creep.room.lookAtArea(creep.pos.y - 2, creep.pos.x - 2, creep.pos.y + 2, creep.pos.x + 2, true).forEach(obj => {
      if (nearby[obj.y] == undefined)
        nearby[obj.y] = [];
      if (nearby[obj.y][obj.x] == undefined)
        nearby[obj.y][obj.x] = [];
      nearby[obj.y][obj.x].push({
        type: obj.type,
        terrain: obj.terrain,
        structure: obj.structure,
        constructionSite: obj.constructionSite
      });
    });
    const movableMap = nearby.map(y => {
      return y.map(x => {
        let keep = true;
        x.forEach(obj => {
          switch (obj.type) {
            case LOOK_TERRAIN:
              if (!["plain", "swamp"].includes(obj.terrain!))
                keep = false;
              break;
            case LOOK_CREEPS:
              keep = false;
              break;
            case LOOK_STRUCTURES:
              keep = false;
              break;
            case LOOK_CONSTRUCTION_SITES:
              keep = false;
              break;
            default:
            // nothing
          }
        });

        return keep ? x : undefined;
      });
    });
    const nearbyMovableTo: { x: number; y: number }[] = [];

    for (let y = 0; y < movableMap.length; y++) {
      if (movableMap[y] == undefined) continue;
      for (let x = 0; x < movableMap[y].length; x++) {
        if (movableMap[y][x] == undefined) continue;
        if (movableMap[y][x]!.length > 0)
          nearbyMovableTo.push({ x, y });
      }
    }

    if (nearbyMovableTo.length > 0) {
      creep.moveTo(nearbyMovableTo[0].x, nearbyMovableTo[0].y);
    }
  }

  end();
}

[glass flower]

i use about 8ms with my code now.. only used like 5 yesterday...

[real sierra]

oh dear god

[olive sable]

shiro why is this only spawning taxis????

[rare bridge]

you're trying to spawn 2 things on the same tick

[olive sable]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[rare bridge]

it's prob opting to spawn the last thing you asked for

[olive sable]

i need a queueueueueeueueueueueue

[rare bridge]

literally first thing i built

[real sierra]

cloud right, from the docs:

[olive sable]

ok

f

[rare bridge]

i think the most cursed part about my code is the fact that i store all info that needs to be persistent for the current task in creep.memory.state

[olive sable]

honeslty cant be botered to make a queue, ill just put spawntaxi as a var that gets priority over everythign

[rare bridge]

good luck dealing with script restarting

[real sierra]

that seems natural not cursed

i do the same

[rare bridge]

fair

[real sierra]

spawnqueue isnt terrible to implement in a simple form

[olive sable]

nah im good

[real sierra]

you're good

[stark needle]

okokokok i am doing the tutorial i think i understand whats going on

[glass flower]

i designed my code to work completely fine without any kind of memory. (besides the roles obviously, and a role limit)

[real sierra]

opposite here

[glass flower]

i use UserData in c# which is not persistent but will stay between ticks most of the time

[real sierra]

i track and store critical statistics about my energy collection

[rare bridge]

my spawn queue isn't actually stored in persistent memory

[real sierra]

these stats inform a number of processes

[real sierra]

where do you put it

[rare bridge]

no need to

it's a var

[glass flower]

so.. on the heap

[real sierra]

???????????

how does that

persist between ticks

[glass flower]

or i guess it could reside in the stack

[rare bridge]

vars persist

[real sierra]

????????????????????????????

[rare bridge]

only until the script restarts

[glass flower]

the only time vars dissapear is between restarts

[rare bridge]

your entire script isn't reloaded when it's your turn to tick, loop is simply called

saved a lot of overhead internally

ofc your script is subject to restarts at any moment

[glass flower]

thats basically what i use for my statemachine

[real sierra]

yeah screw that

im not risking all my state

memory

if i dont use memory for this, what will i use it for

[olive sable]

hmmmmmmmm

this would work???

[rare bridge]

why not

count miners

count taxis

if miners > taxi

spawn taxi

[olive sable]

cuz im linking the taxis to the miners

[rare bridge]

fair enough

[olive sable]

otherwise i get miners interfering witht he wrong taxi

or im just not doing it good but eh

[glass flower]

i really need to make a parking lot area... my creeps block eachother all the time while waiting for energy and therefore my carry bot can't distribute energy

[stark needle]

chat i'm a bit clueless so since the tutorial shows most stuff, whats the point of the game? are there just more enemies or something? or whats like the main problem

[glass flower]

[olive sable]

the tutorial is really just the beginnign

you havent gotten the conquering the map yet

nor the crafting system

[glass flower]

nor the mineral and boosting system

[olive sable]

yummy hydrogen

[rare bridge]

hydrogen

[olive sable]

[glass flower]

i have oxygen

[rare bridge]

i also have some oxygen

not high density tho

[stark needle]

chat

how do i choose

[olive sable]

join near us

[stark needle]

where

[olive sable]

im over at E35N33

shiro and cloud are a bit above me

go in a green area

[rare bridge]

gotta go do some stuff quickly, but when i get back i'll redo the builder to pull energy from the storage + redo the harvester as an upgrader

[olive sable]

with 2 sources

[stark needle]

whats that

[olive sable]

beginner are

you get shieded from the others

[stark needle]

i dot get it

how do iseen if its a green area

[olive sable]

zoom in

[glass flower]

our area looks like this

[stark needle]

what shard are yall

[glass flower]

3

[real sierra]

my memory about to 📈

updated the stats module to track on a per-room basis in addition to globally

[olive sable]

im testing some shit rn

i realy shouldnt be making them commit die, and recycle them instead

[stark needle]

you said two yellow cubes right?

[olive sable]

ye

its better to have 2

[glass flower]

can confirm.. having 1 will give you a bottleneck

but it does simplify my harvester code a ton

[olive sable]

true

go to the only source, mine lmao

[glass flower]

[olive sable]

my miners are all breaking cuy of my crazy taxis

[real sierra]

stats change was a great change

the second room wasnt building any extensions until now

"we can store 1M energy why would be build more storage?"

that aint your storage lil buddy

[stark needle]

is this one bad

[glass flower]

thats why i won't bother with automatic building for now

[real sierra]

that's sam's old room

@olive sable

[glass flower]

just don't do the same mistake as sam. and you'll be fine

its not a perfect room.. but probably the best you can get in our novice area

[olive sable]

died there cuz of bad code lol

[stark needle]

what mistake

[glass flower]

bad code

[stark needle]

😭

[olive sable]

if your room controller dies you're fucked

need to feed it enough or it starves to death

[rare bridge]

like mine is rn

[glass flower]

you should fix that

[rare bridge]

on it rn

[real sierra]

wtf is adesi speedrunning

rcl3 already

how did you manage that with this many creeps stationary

[rare bridge]

[glass flower]

wdym stationary

[stark needle]

hmm whos more trustable to have as neighbor sam or shiro or juho or some other randoms

[real sierra]

[rare bridge]

i would not recommend me

i plan to expand at some point

[olive sable]

i will probably move soon due to death anyways so idk

[real sierra]

my creeps expand on their own

[glass flower]

my creeps are not stationary they are just a little stupid and like to block eachother

[real sierra]

they may choose to murder my neighbours while im asleep

[rare bridge]

same

[real sierra]

out of my control

my creeps never block each other

[glass flower]

my base is just locked up rightnow because they are repairing and building and carrying stuff all in like 20 tiles at the same time

[rare bridge]

what the fuck is this builder doing

come take a look at my base

the builder near my expanders

[stark needle]

should i care about uranium or whatever in the base

[real sierra]

nah

[glass flower]

nah

[real sierra]

not useful until way, way later

[rare bridge]

this builder is going schizo

[stark needle]

ugh ill just go to sleep

and do tomorrow

[glass flower]

i had the same issue... its when you are moving to the same spot over and over

they just shuffle around a little

[rare bridge]

[glass flower]

or wait.. nvm

[rare bridge]

what the fuck is it trying to get to anyway

[glass flower]

it was when you go get energy from your storage but you also give it a different order the next tick

like the state switches every tick

so it does one thing then switches to another and then switches back and repeat

[olive sable]

TypeError: Cannot read property 'memory' of undefined mf shut

[rare bridge]

my conclusion is my code is shit

i'm rewriting the builders anyway

they're on the old system

[tender river]

wha shadow in screeps

[olive sable]

nah he eeping first ig

goodnight shadow

[rare bridge]

okay everything is just.. broken

[olive sable]

saaameee

[rare bridge]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

[real sierra]

bro you wrote it

wdym "What is this"

[rare bridge]

idk how i wrote this and thought it was good wtf

i must have lost it

[real sierra]

HOLY

MY WALLS CODE

11/10 placement

[glass flower]

[olive sable]

perfect

defending yourslef from the preexisitng walls

[real sierra]

hey.

[tender river]

well... today was 15 hours of schizoing (trying language ideas in my head) and i think i got to something thats at least like 5% reasonable

[real sierra]

its automatic.

[olive sable]

automatic my ass

[rare bridge]

they're dangerous

[tender river]

the code is thinking ahead, what if someone builds a tunnel there

[olive sable]

shiro what is -4 error code again???

spawner busy?

[rare bridge]

busy

[olive sable]

fucck

ok ok ok

i probably killed 30 screeps testing htis code

[rare bridge]

dw i murdered 3 different miners trying to get them to work

[olive sable]

noway a taxi is finally spawning

lesggooooo

[rare bridge]

alright, time to write upgrader code cos my controller is very close to downgrading

[olive sable]

[rare bridge]

(and i want GCL)

[olive sable]

i need to pee now, i thought this woldnt take 2 hours

[rare bridge]

i should generalize collectFromStorage

i wonder what happens if i do

once i've finished upgrader and builder i'll have it make more extenders

[final iron]

fuuuck i just completed the tutorial and im already theorycrafting logistics optimizations

[rare bridge]

done, i read my code quickly i don't think there will be any issues

[final iron]

im gonna be so cooked

[rare bridge]

[real sierra]

#programming message

[olive sable]

i guesstimated that it was indeed a busy error

and its working now i think

lemme check, i went brb for a bit

[real sierra]

shard3?

[olive sable]

what about shard 3?

[real sierra]

it was being not fast...

speaking of which why is my cpu so much higher

[olive sable]

where do yall even see?

[real sierra]

im pushing 7 or 8 cpu

[olive sable]

im doing 4

and 1KB

[real sierra]

7/20
12kb

[olive sable]

go my taxis, be free!

the taxis recycle themselve now upon finishing their move, so i need to fix some scuff for that

[rare bridge]

decided to finally remove the absurdly complicated idle "get the fuck off the road" code

[real sierra]

complicated

how

what did you do

[rare bridge]

.

[real sierra]

jesus

the point of being idle is low cpu use

[rare bridge]

[real sierra]

im telling you, monte carlo fucking off is the way forward

[rare bridge]

that's what i'm doing now

they'll just choose a random direction and move now

[real sierra]

its so fast

[rare bridge]

changed mainly cos if they went into idle on my long road from spawn to left miner they'd just fucking

[real sierra]

lots of my methods use randomness to speed them up

[rare bridge]

zoom up it

before moving off the road

[olive sable]

this is good code surely

else if (creep.memory.role == 'miner')
{
    let moving = roleMiner.run(creep);
    let taxi = Game.creeps[creep.memory.taxi];
    if(taxi)
    {
        if (moving == 1)
        {
            taxi.memory.hauling = true;
        }
        roleTaxi.move(taxi, creep);
    }
}

[real sierra]

like when i have expensive operations that need to be done on every room at regular intervals

every few ticks i just pick a random room and process it

[rare bridge]

tbh my codebase rn is a fucking mess

[real sierra]

you havent even seen mine

[rare bridge]

the builders, until now, were running on the old system

[rare bridge]

currently they refuse to work at all tho

[real sierra]

wtf cloud

i bet half of those files are like

5 lines

and the 5 lines in question are

function dikortjhoiejsyiohhd(creep) {
  // nothing
}

[rare bridge]

nah they all have.. some task

except for CreepHandler and RoomHandler

[real sierra]

my creep.logistics is 230 lines

[rare bridge]

mine is 47 lines

[real sierra]

strategy is up to 290 lines

infrastructure is the longest at 369

[glass flower]

i feel like every file i have is 100 lines atleast

[rare bridge]

but that's cos the actual creep logic code is in tasks, not types

logistic creeps have collectFromMiners, collectFromGround, collectFromStorage, storeAtSpawns, storeAtStorage, and storeAtTowers

[real sierra]

this is still crazy to me

surely those have like

extremely similar implementations

[glass flower]

my latest rework was combining all of those

[rare bridge]

depends, some do logic checks that are intrinsicly linked to what they're exactly doing

[glass flower]

this is my code where i tell my logistic bots where to put their energy and in what order

[rare bridge]

i find it easier to write it like this, but it also means i run into bugs linked specifically to my implementation

such as my builders

doing

fuck

all