programming

[blazing hound]

Anyways

Yes

I have a girlfriend

[olive sable]

[blazing hound]

She used to study nuclear physics but it didn't quite satisfy her so she's now doing linguistics.

[lilac glen]

all

[real sierra]

I'm married to my screeps colony

[amber fractal]

Based

[lilac glen]

women physically cant understand a computer

in exchange they can teleport objects into and out of your perception

false hydra type shit

[olive sable]

I wouldnt immediatly say all without evidence. But i also dont want to ask for evidence

[real sierra]

[blazing hound]

bunch of silly little parts doing silly little things not that hard to grasp

[lilac glen]

do not ask for evidence ur gonna get flashbanged

[olive sable]

Thats my problem

[jagged turtle]

my esc key doesn't work

[olive sable]

O7

[blazing hound]

Just mash it until it does

[real sierra]

ok I need to wake up in 4h

bed time

[blazing hound]

Works every time 100% of the time

[real sierra]

need to stop thinking about screeps

[blazing hound]

Or buy new keyboard.

[jagged turtle]

it's registering but it's not being processed I think

[lilac glen]

@grok is this real

[blazing hound]

huh

[real sierra]

actually I'll just try thinking more about screeps and then pass out when I forget to be awake

gn

[jagged turtle]

oh wait

[lilac glen]

gn

[blazing hound]

Let me guess

[lilac glen]

immq sleep

[jagged turtle]

did discord do a common L and remove the esc key binding for removing a reply from the message you're about to send?

[blazing hound]

Some mess stuck under the key.

[olive sable]

Honestly from what ive seen before, this might not be too far off from the thruth

[blazing hound]

Yeah I think so

[jagged turtle]

[blazing hound]

Real

[jagged turtle]

my efficiency has gone down by 20%

[olive sable]

[blazing hound]

Like computer as in how to operate it or computer as in the physics behind it?

[jagged turtle]

surely this will restore it

[amber fractal]

I'm not quick to assume, need to know more people

[blazing hound]

Do not

Touch that

Button

It is evil from the worst pits of hell

[olive sable]

I have seen what they do at my moms work, it changed me

[blazing hound]

oh

im sorry...

[olive sable]

Also, my moms collection of old laptops is not good

[amber fractal]

True that, discord can't update

[blazing hound]

Not only discord but lately microsoft aswell

Any windows update they just pack it with more fucking bloatware and call it a day.

[jagged turtle]

waiting for when I am allowed to install linux onto my machine

[blazing hound]

Last one broke my fucking graphics card I had to disable automatic updates for windows and since then I'm just not updating it.

[blazing hound]

I have had the urge to do that for a while

[olive sable]

I dont have much problems with windows. Its those green fuckers that break my drivers

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-14251978375826396304

[blazing hound]

Unfortunately my father would disown me and sign off all heritage to my sister.

[amber fractal]

Only use of AI video I'll accept

[olive sable]

[blazing hound]

Lmao

I have another one but it is so cursed that I won't send it here.

Actually lemme find the good one.

The normal one.

[opaque wharf]

Not even vedal RTX?

[olive sable]

No

Nononononono

[amber fractal]

No

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[amber fractal]

Sam is getting a trauma flashback

[olive sable]

Something like that ig

[opaque sigil]

I keep getting the same visual studio update via windows update every single day and it's kind of starting to get annoying

[noble zodiac]

ppl who ignore windows updates and then are suprised when shit breaks months later

[olive sable]

Windows updates are so ASS tho

[opaque wharf]

I ignore arch update and it never break

[olive sable]

Stupid

[jagged turtle]

Look, I like Windows for the user-friendliness of it. But as a dev it feels like not enough is doable there, plus with their whole "alias" thing in powershell that fucks up stuff every time I copy paste commands

[tender river]

i'm trying to prevent a deadlock in a pure computation that's non-terminating in the first place how did i end up here

[opaque wharf]

Hey, its an SBC to muck around. I don't even connect it to the internet

[olive sable]

Ye, i just need to get around to finding a decent distro that isnt too bare-bones for what i need to do

[blazing hound]

Found it

[opaque wharf]

Yeay, Chay finally going to solve the halting problem!

[jagged turtle]

the problem with me not being able to switch is that it would require me to explain every single minute detail of my screen to teachers at school only for them to be like "yeah no you're hacking"

at least they leave me alone afterwards but it's annoying as fuck

[opaque wharf]

Garuda

[opaque wharf]

Or CachyOS

[tender river]

i am not. i simply want a = a + 1 to work

[blazing hound]

why not a += 1?

[tender river]

this should be a perfectly sound fixpoint as its a monotonic function

[opaque wharf]

"should", yeah, famous last words

[blazing hound]

^

[tender river]

this is not a statement its a recursive expression

[olive sable]

a = a + 1 is basicly infinity if you do it wrong

[tender river]

thats why i said its nonterminating

[opaque wharf]

Non terminating sam

[tender river]

the problem is, in haskell's lvars framework, this will instead deadlock

[olive sable]

Do you expect me to know what that means?

[opaque wharf]

No

[blazing hound]

wait what languages or what tech we talking again i got confused.

[tender river]

not tech, just maths

[blazing hound]

Oh

[opaque wharf]

This is the basis of programming

[blazing hound]

Oh no I'm just having a brain meltdown as I fail to understand how is a = a + 1 and a += 1 any different

[opaque wharf]

Because my god whose bright idea is it to combine instruction and data

[tender river]

sorry without lambda calculus background i cant easily explain it to you

[blazing hound]

That's fair

[olive sable]

It should be the same, but it isnt quite the same

[tender river]

think of something simpler instead: b = a + 1; a = 5;

this is terminating, b is 6 and a is 5

there can be something like b = max(b, 5);, if we use a semilattice for max we can start from bottom (like 0) and b will end up at the value 5

[blazing hound]

Uh huh?

Mhm?

[amber fractal]

I understand mhm (I don't understand anything)

[olive sable]

Purely math based, a = a + 1 is just a fucked statement.
I dont agree with it

[tender river]

thats why lambda calculus is not a sound system of logic

[olive sable]

Yep

Yet its still quite handy

[tender river]

and this is why in proof checkers, termination is mandatory

[opaque wharf]

There can never be one

[blazing hound]

At this point I have to ask, what the hell is math about?

[tender river]

about solving problems

[amber fractal]

@blazing hound I forgot to say, very cute pfp

[blazing hound]

Thaaaaanks

[blazing hound]

Very cute personality

[tender river]

in my case, i'm studying fixpoints and monotonicity as part of my wider research into composable systems

[amber fractal]

I can assure you it is not normal, I've been going on for over half an hour

that friend is presistant

[blazing hound]

Mm?

[tender river]

this has applications anywhere you have A and B and want to combine them in some way:

• module systems (for programs or configurations)
• distributed programming
  idk thats it but this is already incredibly wide applicability

[opaque wharf]

Math is about having fun for me personally

[amber fractal]

Out of curiosity, was this what won the book vote?

[tender river]

nope this is just what i'm interested in

[amber fractal]

I see

[tender river]

as i always liked highly composable systems

[blazing hound]

Well, you are cute. You denying it only fuels the fire as the fact that you don't realize that you're cute, or you're too flustered about it to admit it, making you even more cutie patootie.

[opaque wharf]

Like knowing that some infinity is bigger than other, yet we still don't know what comes after said bigger infinity

[opaque wharf]

Docker Compose

[blazing hound]

You've been observed and deemed adorable.

[amber fractal]

[blazing hound]

That you

[amber fractal]

It is cute yeah

#programming loves their bwaas

[blazing hound]

Correct, you are too.

[blazing hound]

This is too much for my systematologist brain.

[tender river]

here's a relatively simple introduction into the topics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Aa4PivG0g

[blazing hound]

yoink

[amber fractal]

Added to watch later

[amber fractal]

[tender river]

and here's where the research has been applied:
https://github.com/iu-parfunc/lvars (haskell)
https://hydro.run/ (rust)

and there is still so much more to do in this "field"

[opaque wharf]

Field brings me back when I have to implement RFC

[amber fractal]

If I ever get enough time to focus on learning, Type theory is pretty high on the list of things I'd want to learn.

[tender river]

sadly theres not much in the way of formal verification of lattices or monotonicity currently

so when using lvars or hydro/dfir you just have to say "trust me my lattices are correct"

its more of a way of framing your problems than a tool for verifying your solutions at the moment

which is still very cool

[blazing hound]

I don't really understand it as of now so I can't discuss it personally but it sounds really cool from your description.

[wet oyster]

How does CPU instruction prediction even work?

[amber fractal]

Black magic mhm

[opaque wharf]

They don't work

Just look at all the CVE we have now

But, if you're curious, modern CPU has another CPU basically

That little CPU is helping the big CPU to do stuff

[tender river]

it is very cool but the problem is that because the concept of a partial orders/monotonicity is so general i find a hard time thinking up an ergonomic language for working with them
for example, you can order integers by their order (1<=1, 1<=2, 2<=3, 3<=4, etc), or you can order them by divisibility (a<=b if b%a == 0), and when a function is monotonic its monotonic with regards to some particular partial order

[wet oyster]

Thats very interestingm thanks

[opaque wharf]

See Intel Management Engine

[tender river]

speculative execution just predicts what data it will read from RAM and runs the code anyway, and later if the data is wrong it rolls back the state and runs the code again

"rolling back" is tricky which is why there have been some exploits

[blazing hound]

This is completely out of my league so I can't help you with that unfortunately...

[opaque wharf]

Oh wait IME doesn't do the spec ex stuff

[tender river]

it doesnt

[opaque wharf]

Yeah I forgot

But still, little CPU help big CPU

[olive sable]

Bwa bwaa bwaaa

How does my phone go from 50% to 80% in 20min, but 80% to 100% takes 35min?

This is a scam

Batter percentage is not linear

[opaque wharf]

Because the usage is 50W for example, but charging is 15W

[amber fractal]

It's like shoving more stuff in a cabinet when you know you shouldn't

[stray dragon]

damn i didn't know they had speculative decoding but for cpu instructions

[olive sable]

But how xome the first 10% last as long as the last 40%

[opaque wharf]

Maybe the charge controller is shit

[olive sable]

It very likely is

[opaque wharf]

Should've used coloumb counting rather than voltage mapping

But voltage mapping is easier

But maybe they don't use the correct curve to report it and assume linearity

[olive sable]

Im not sure how battery charging works, but i havent charged my phone more than 80% a single time in the last 4 years

So it might be cuz of that?

[opaque wharf]

This is an example graph of battery voltage to charge capacity left

As you can see the graph is not linear

[blazing hound]

Man fuck electricity.

[opaque wharf]

When measuring voltage (the easy way), you can use that curve to accurately map voltage and capacity to some extent

[blazing hound]

Back to steam we go.

[opaque wharf]

But the capacity WILL degrade over time due to... reasons (chemistry mostly)

Hence the voltage will drift over time from the curve

[olive sable]

Its cuz of the lithium ions getting stuck in the semipermiable membrane or some shot iirc

[opaque wharf]

The best way to accurately measure battery capacity is therefore to "count" the in and out

How many goes in the battery and how many goes out

The remaining is then the current charge level

[blazing hound]

I'm gonna give you headpats

[olive sable]

Okay

[blazing hound]

La sillatura

[autumn ore]

WE HAVE THE OG CANVAS BACK https://neurosama.place

[tender river]

[grim girder]

What if I post HTML in here?

[amber fractal]

It gets rendered as an iframe (real)

[fast pagoda]

of course it's suddenly upset about the json format if anyone else is getting rekt by that

i have literally no idea why though

[stark needle]

I have acquired

This overly expensive toothbrush

It was on sale for 110 so i said fuck it

The store seller tried to aggressively upsell me a bunch of shit

A whole mobile plan for 39/month

Asking me like

[midnight sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/emlDGTXuhts

real

[stark needle]

Dude this is obviously the better plan u must buy it now

And i was like

No???

and mf was like

"explain why not"

And i said the dumbest shit

i said i had a sentimental connection to my current mobile provider cause it was the last thing my dad paid for me before he died

😭😭

[dawn garnet]

GCS permissions

are boutta make me lose it

I just wanna make a service acc to upload files

[jagged turtle]

thats not a bad excuse tbh

people can be emotionally attached to different things especially after the passing of a loved one

also, sorry for your loss

[rigid snow]

same energy as the “our grandma used to read us windows activation keys to sleep” thing

[tender river]

truly what i was looking for

[stark needle]

dude i made it up

My dad's still alive and well

lol

[dawn garnet]

I MADE IT WORKKK

i think

after doing some tomfoolery

with an offline refresh token

the backend should remain authenticated for file uploads

gonna shut my dev server down

and test if it can still auth tomorrow

[dry charm]

I have a sonicare as well, it is a good toothbrush

but it is expensive for no reason yeah

[fast pagoda]

1 hour later

copy and pasted a webhook with one(1) extra char

in the prod webhook secret

guess ill uh
validate the webhook before just yolo sending it

[noble zodiac]

I'm currently doing the upgrade a data cluster without getting a panic attack challenge

impossible

[dawn garnet]

It contain a lot of prod data and is ya stuff secured somewhere in case of issues?

[noble zodiac]

redudancy is part of the cluster itself

[dawn garnet]

Ah, is there redundancy for the redundancy or if this cluster fails then data poof?

@wraith raft #merch message

Genuine question, what use does that many monitors serve?

[noble zodiac]

This is a storage cluster and not a database. It stretches over multiple locations that all would have to spontaneously explode at once and then backups for select data also have to explode

Even if you could backup it all again I dont have an extra 3 Petabyte lying around

[dawn garnet]

Oh nice redundancy, I just like being informed on redundancy practises since I do freelance my biggest fear is data loss

[noble zodiac]

redudancy != backup is a rule of thumb but doesnt apply to certain scales were you have to select what you can or even should send where

[dawn garnet]

Currently all my systems just have hourly db backups to GDrive

Compressed heavily for that storage saving

[noble zodiac]

sure, but thats person usage. Business cases are vastly different

[dawn garnet]

Yeah I getcha, I did work corporate for just over a year but I was shoeboxed into backend development so I couldn’t really branch out to work in diff sectors

Doing freelance work really opened up my scope and let me work with a decent amount of scopes

Cause I just kinda have to deliver based on client requests to the best of my ability

[real sierra]

[fast pagoda]

3 pb sheesh

[real sierra]

good morning all

[fast pagoda]

good morning

[ruby timber]

Morning!

[real sierra]

I'm so tired

it feels like I got 4 hours of sleep

[stark needle]

Morning shiro!!

I think everyone in here does not sleep enough

[noble zodiac]

nah, my sleep is perfect

[real sierra]

time to check on my screepies

all alive and well

ew

this is code from the scsreeps engine

 let invaderGoal = Math.floor(C.INVADERS_ENERGY_GOAL * (Math.random()*0.6 + 0.7));
        if(Math.random() < 0.1) {
            invaderGoal *= Math.floor( Math.random() > 0.5 ? 2 : 0.5 );
        }

[rough bloom]

Math.floor(0.5)

very useful

[real sierra]

yeah wait

i think i need to improve the code for my miners

they waste way too much time

probably need to cache the mineable tiles per room

and then actually assign a creep or two to each

looks like my walls are up to about 55k HP

at this rate they should have my walls up to the desired 100k by the end of the day

[tender river]

make sure to leave one wall with 100hp as a surprise gift for the attacker

[real sierra]

some players are truly locked in and its kinda scary

once the novice zone protections are gone im gonna get rolled

like im not defending against this

[trim valve]

[rough bloom]

This is why I'll be doing a lot of preparation on my private server first
Deployment on the official server can happen later and I don't wanna get rolled

Also I'm debuffed by writing the script in Gleam

[real sierra]

i mean i dont mind getting rolled

the novice areas last for like

a month

so its not like you're rushed

[rough bloom]

oh, that's way longer than I expected

[tender river]

gleam

[rough bloom]

not

their JS FFI sucks

[tender river]

good.

[rough bloom]

mostly because of linked lists and lack of introspection for the JS objects

[trim valve]

for a language that says it compiles to js that suprises me but I guess it makes sense

[rough bloom]

I predict much pain and runtime overhead

actually now that I think about it I could have a fully generic Dynamic-like type for JS objects, that might be nice

[tender river]

if a language has good js ffi its probably too js-like for my liking

[noble zodiac]

wasm moment

[real sierra]

just bite the js bullet

im not that good at coding and im doing fine

[rough bloom]

I'm sure it would be fine, yeah
People have made good typescript integration too
But it would be boring, and this is an opportunity to do something stupid

[real sierra]

you're still the only person so far whose idea involves actually playing the game

so you get points for that

ok idea

instead of this silly sudden jump in wall strength requirements

why dont i interpolate it from the last one based on the controller upgrade progress

[tender river]

the CALM principle (consistency as logical monotonicity, i.e. that all distributed programs that give consistent output without coordination (coordination is something like blockchain) are monotonic) is so obvious when you consider that distributed computing is just N mutually recursive functions computing a fixpoint

bwa

[real sierra]

ok

my screeps are in a good spot

added a feature to my room controller upgraders, they'll now sign the controller if it isnt signed by me

now my controllers say miku miku oo ee oo

[tender river]

seka

[real sierra]

added interpolation of rampart and wall hp goals for smoother scaling of builder workloads, that way they can do building projects in between

this was a pretty needed edit

ive been silently dreading the first npc invasion, which cant be that too far out

because i have no active defenses

i have code to spawn a guard if there's attackers and i have no towers, but whether or not id be able to afford the guard is another question

so

i really need them to get this tower built

they haven't been doing it because they've been upgrading walls 24/7

but now they can focus on the tower

[tender river]

tell your screeps no food or sleep until they build the tower

[real sierra]

i need to do the math on creep mining techniques too

i saw other people have creeps with no carry parts mine, and then occasionally haulers would just come grab the dropped energy

but the dropped energy decays by one each tick so

i need to see if thats worth it compared to having the miner leave to bring the energy back

very wasteful

[sage crag]

p

[real sierra]

yeah I think the next thing on the list for me is to write some code for scouting rooms

set of candidate rooms will be taken from the set of rooms adjacent my own

then we'll verify we have strategic information about those rooms that is valid to within the last 500 ticks or so

if not, we send any existing scout units to rooms that aren't fresh enough

if we have no existing scout units, we make some

once we have all this info, we should be able to do some kind of heuristics

e.g. a defensive score

something like DPS * HP for every active defender

and then ensure we have 1.5 times this heuristic for our attackers

another heuristic needed to decide the best value target

trial-and-error needed there

[grim girder]

Heuristics?

[real sierra]

I think another smart metric for evaluating defenses is the minimum HP between myself and the room controller

that is, if I pathfind to the room controller with all tiles being free except walls and ramparts whose cost scales with their HP (perhaps with a rampart multiplier since they can contain units), and then sum the health of all walls and ramparts encountered, what is this health

that should give me a decent metric for the strength of the static defenses present unless the player does something clever like leave an opening on purpose

if I combine all that info, I should be able to derive some kind of cost benefit for each potential target

and use it to inform invasion plans

[vivid tulip]

Whenever I'd tell people I was learning APL, I'd often get told that I should learn a "more readable" programming language

So I am.

[real sierra]

idk what to do for low level battle tactics tho

not sure what the meta is for attacker body or positioning

or what to attack first

[real sierra]

too readable go back

[tender river]

go forth

[vivid tulip]

The wildest part to me is that APL and COBOL actually seem to share at least one element in common:

They both seem to have numbers and characters as the two primary datatypes—with no regard for floats or ints or any need to explicitly convert between the various sub-types of numeric variable

Well, the languages have two elements in common, if you count the whole "couple hundred built-in operations for you to memorize and barely any reliance on external libraries" thing

...Three if you count the grammar-like syntax of each line

Point being, the two languages are WAY more similar than I would've expected going in

[vivid tulip]

Sorry, best I can do is either

       IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
       PROGRAM-ID. ASSIGNMENT.

       DATA DIVISION.
           WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
           77 NUM1 PIC 99.

       PROCEDURE DIVISION.
           MOVE 36 TO NUM1.
           STOP RUN.```
or
```apl
num1←36```
I don't understand anything in between

[sage crag]

mrrp

[tender river]

i was blind

too java brained to see the potential

to see the vision

but i have finally realized

erf must become a dependently typed language

also

mrp meow

[pastel nymph]

This seems so odd to me, Why would Math.Pow produce inaccurate result? (this is c#)

        Expected: 4321550163432819409
        But was:  4321550163432819200```
```csharp
    public static long FindNextSquare(long num)
    {
        long l = 0;
        long r = num;
        while (l <= r)
        {
            long mid = (l + r) / 2;
            if (mid < num / mid) l = mid + 1;
            else r = mid - 1;
        }
        return l * l == num ? (long)Math.Pow(l + 1, 2) : -1;
    }```

[stark needle]

Isn't love basically a brain's positive stimulation, based on it's own self-created signals about the external interactions of a hypothetical person you can't prove exists, especially since your reality is a construct of your brain and that person is only acting in a specific way rather than showing how they truly feel

[pastel nymph]

Doing simple multiplication ended up fixing the inaccuracy

return l * l == num ? (l + 1) * (l + 1) : -1;

4321550163432819200 isn't even a perfect square

[tender river]

Math.Pow returns a floating point number

floating point maths is not precise, its encoded as a mantissa + an exponent, the mantissa is not big enough to encode a large number like that

[pastel nymph]

Interesting, thats good to know

[desert wave]

If you want full integer precision, BigInteger will do it without converting to float

[tender river]

or, in this case, just using longs will do

mpr mow

[olive sable]

Im back to civilization

Ive been reading more of the vulkan docs

I took some screenshots, gimmeva min

Grammar police 🚓🚓🚓🚨🚨🚨🚓🚓🚓

It's is, double is

Illegal

This feature is pretty based tho, I approve.
Depth bias slope factor with the built in dot product the rasterizer does anyways is so based

[nocturne olive]

Silliness?

[olive sable]

Mayhaps

Lemme check where the 3090 is

It departed

So im guessing on a plane somewhere

[nocturne olive]

My guess is a cargo ship

[olive sable]

Possebly ye

[nocturne olive]

A plane would probably already have arrived in Finland, since based on that timeline it's been departed for soon to be 2 days

[nocturne olive]

Wow
That's slow

[olive sable]

That does seem very slow ye

I expected it to be faster

[rare bramble]

Oh, that's snails pace

[olive sable]

This is not the website from the post company tho

We'll see

[olive sable]

How do you even report that?

[rough bloom]

https://github.com/Overv/VulkanTutorial

[olive sable]

It seems to be fixed already

Just not in the downloadable pdf I guess???

[rough bloom]

Still wrong on the website then

I guess they only push major changes there or something

[olive sable]

Probably

🤔

[opaque wharf]

I have awoken

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ascending-gif-12224952850809471339

[olive sable]

He's flying away

[opaque wharf]

Today is very tiring

[olive sable]

Mildly hot take, vulkan is just opengl with extra steps

[rough bloom]

yeah, that's the point
the extra steps are the important bit

[olive sable]

Its basically the same

Just need to add more nullpointers and structs

[opaque wharf]

Nullptr?

[olive sable]

Ye

I read the fully out in my mind when reading the docs

Every single chapter its like, good job you did it

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-heavy-but-wait-there's-more-gif-3524935324488475529

[nocturne olive]

Now here's more stuff

That's what I got from that

[olive sable]

Opengl is like going to the GPU, placing you order, and you're good

Vulkan you have to build the road, build the digital side of the GPU, build the menu, build your order, get your order, package your order, and deliver it yourself.

[nocturne olive]

Silly

[rigid snow]

bought my little brother minecraft java and showed him computercraft. have i made a mistake

[rough bloom]

no, you have done very well

[olive sable]

It is, acceptable

[rough bloom]

show him OpenComputers next

[rigid snow]

opencomputers 2

[rigid snow]

tbf it’s overwhelming even for me

what do you mean riscv emulators running linux

[rough bloom]

looks cool but I've never tried it, I've only ever messed with the Lua-based ones, and I haven't done that much with them

[rigid snow]

i thought the networking thing has insane potential but how it actually works is pretty jank

mod is dead, a fork is alive but development is slow

[rough bloom]

the RISC-V emulator part makes sense at least, using a standard architecture like that grants a lot of freedom and realism
the Lua stuff is noticeably sandboxed

[opaque wharf]

Not void ptr?

[rigid snow]

fn_computed_beforehand

[opaque wharf]

I was cached by shiro

Evidence #programming message

[olive sable]

Nope

Hmmm. Electricity 100

[lapis wraith]

Live copper from the wall

[olive sable]

I'm pretty sure that's data...

Probably

[lapis wraith]

Surely is an ethernet cable and not high voltage current

To be fair, those cables look too thin to be high voltage

[rough bloom]

looks like data, yeah
the wires look too thin to carry a lot of current at least
then again, exposed copper like that isn't exactly best practice, so they might be abused for carrying power

[lapis wraith]

I mean.. Power Over Ethernet is a thing so...

[olive sable]

I wasn't planning on touching it anyway

[opaque wharf]

PoE is usually higher than average DC that you encounter. Still safe tho as its an active standard. Passive PoE is usually limited to less than 64V

[rough bloom]

yeah, pretty sure that even passive PoE is safe to touch
there just isn't that much power

[opaque wharf]

Indeed. But knowing me, copper is copper

[olive sable]

Surely this is the last function

[lapis wraith]

I'm impressed that you managed to actually separate everything in their own functions. But the list must grow.

[opaque wharf]

Can one logical device span multiple physical device?

[olive sable]

This is not my code lol, its the docs

But i am planning on doing this too

[olive sable]

Opposite

A physical device can have multible logical devices

Idk about the other way

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, this is normal that's why I'm asking the opposite lol

[noble zodiac]

yes

[opaque wharf]

Oh, wow. So distributed load across GPU is possible in Vulkan alone huh

[abstract pine]

hi

[stark needle]

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

What? Does coq compile to Ocaml?

[sour harness]

If you are working with NVIDIA's GPU clusters then yes. That is the entire point of NVlink.

Also probably SLI way back when, but no idea if the two linked GPUs were exposed as one single device.

[opaque wharf]

Well, I know about the use of NVLink, but I didn't know Vulkan supported it. So does that mean to have the logical device span across multiple phy, nvlink is required?

[olive sable]

I thought there was a mobo way to do ot too

[sour harness]

No idea. There might be other technologies to do the same. AMD might have something similar, maybe using Infiniband?

[olive sable]

But sounfs zbout right

[sour harness]

Oh right, NVIDIA is releasing that custom motherboard that can house 8 RTX Pro cards. I don't think that's NVLink.

[rough bloom]

Is that a thing in Vulkan too?
AFAIK what NVLink enables is fast P2P transfers, which for compute workloads are usually handled by nccl
but they aren't really a single device, it's just that communication is handled for you

[opaque wharf]

Well, I just thought that distributed computing stuff is abstracted away by the API even with limited bandwidth

[rough bloom]

at least for CUDA it is

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but I was talking Vulkan since I saw the API that Sam sent before

[rough bloom]

-# or at least for PyTorch, idk which abstraction layer it's actually handled at

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

I'm like 99% sure that you can't just treat multiple physical devices as one with Vulkan because they simply do not share memory unless you explicitly make that happen somehow

[olive sable]

You have to put a copy of all the files in each vram ye

[sour harness]

So the abstraction happens at the CUDA-level, not the driver level?

Yeah, then Vulkan wouldn't know about it

[rough bloom]

for CUDA yes, definitely not at the driver level

[opaque wharf]

Which is why I was asking. Does the make logicalDevice API can span across multiple physicalDevice

Which is cool if it does

[rough bloom]

A single logical device can be created from multiple physical devices, if those physical devices belong to the same device group. A device group is a set of physical devices that support accessing each other’s memory and recording a single command buffer that can be executed on all the physical devices.
that

[olive sable]

Im mostly wondering about using multiple logical devices

I dont see the immediate usecase

[rough bloom]

since you can't usually create a single logical device for multiple physical devices you need to create a logical device for each one

but yeah, for a game it doesn't matter

[olive sable]

Ye im talking about using a single gpu

[rough bloom]

then a single logical device is fine AFAIK

[olive sable]

They do make it very clear you can have multiple logical devices per physical device, so im wondering what the intended usecase is.

Multiple viewports for VR? No cuz you can just have a framebuffer queue with double images

[opaque wharf]

See? That's why I asked because Sam is reading the docs

But thank you for clarifying it

[opaque sigil]

sth sth partitioning resources

maybe you want to have a part dedicated to compute shaders and the rest for rendering

[opaque sigil]

that's what nccl is for yea

[opaque wharf]

Bandwidth will be ass tho if you didn't have NVLink or similar. But I don't know how ass it is

[opaque sigil]

nvlink is irrelevant here, you still are on a single physical gpu

[opaque wharf]

Oh, that's something new to me. Imma have to read up on that one

[opaque wharf]

Oh, you're talking multiple logical on single phy

[opaque sigil]

Mhm

[opaque wharf]

I thought 2 logical on 2 phy

[rough bloom]

you can already do that with a single logical device, you still get access to individual queues

[opaque sigil]

then idk

[rough bloom]

yeah idk either
only difference I see right now is that you could enable different extensions for each device

but I guess it's one of those things that the API doesn't disallow just because it can

[opaque wharf]

Of course nccl stands for nvidia. Why didn't I see that one coming

[opaque sigil]

looks like one use case would be plugins

so each plugin gets its own logical device to work with

[olive sable]

I guess if you're using plugins that render to vulkan and you dont want them to interfere with eachother?

[opaque sigil]

Mhm

or purely for structuring like i mentioned

[opaque wharf]

But that's what good low level api should do

[opaque sigil]

one device for the ui

one for compute stuff

[olive sable]

I think the only reason idd use it is to run an llm on the gpu next to the rendering pipeline?

You can seperate compute shaders and ui and stuff, but you really only need to change out the pipeline if i understand the docs correctly

[olive sable]

Hey why yall despairing me? I need that enemy ai to run locally

[hoary lion]

gm #programming

[opaque sigil]

you technically can run it inside the shader now

[olive sable]

Ig?

Im still not sure how llm's work

[opaque wharf]

Ok, I redacted my previous statement about good low level API design

[olive sable]

But vulkan should be faster than pytorch???

[opaque wharf]

That shit sounds cursed af

[hoary lion]

not so sure

cause torch do have optimized backend

[opaque wharf]

Pytorch is just an abstraction. It could use Vulkan or not IIRC

[opaque sigil]

in theory yes

in reality probably not

[olive sable]

Damn

[rough bloom]

this except only the right part
hope this helps

[olive sable]

I dont really feel like making python run inside a cpp project

That will be ass

[hoary lion]

then use CUDA

[opaque wharf]

I fucking hope so

[opaque sigil]

neural rendering is pretty cool though

[rough bloom]

N
but Vulkan implementations of LLMs and other ML models do exist

[hoary lion]

Cuda is cpp, right

[opaque wharf]

Is that performed in compute shaders?

[opaque sigil]

yesn't

and yeah cuda is cpp

[opaque wharf]

A superset of it

[olive sable]

The plan isnt to make the ai render shit, tho that could be possible i guess

[hoary lion]

so yeah there you have it

build a llm inference engine with cuda

👍

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

sth sth just throw tensorrt at it

[olive sable]

So for vedal drunk driving simulator i will need a database of british slurs and some driving data

[opaque wharf]

You can try to look for a racing sim game dataset

[nocturne olive]

Then just use Torch directly in C++, since it has native C++ bindings (it's always internally C++)

[sour harness]

Go home Gemma, you're drunk

[stark needle]

Asco's Body Scan

[olive sable]

Can i select how much of the device i use in torch too?

[opaque sigil]

you can limit the amount of memory it's allowed to use iirc

[olive sable]

I think it would be good te reserve the cude cores per app

[opaque sigil]

yeah nah

[olive sable]

So of my 10k on the 3090 like 6k render and 4k NN

[opaque sigil]

that's not happening

[nocturne olive]

It's not like ML is compute limited on inference time, it's actually bandwidth linited

[stark needle]

itd be better to let cuda optimize it

since render and tensor does not use the same stuff

[opaque sigil]

yeah let the driver do its job

there's technically nvidia's multi instance gpu thing but i don't think that's available for consumer gpus

ah nvm it's hopper and blackwell only anyway

if you really want to partition SMs i think the only option you have is writing PTX, cuda doesn't expose this to my knowledge

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/a-project-to-bring-cuda-to-non-nvidia-gpus-is-making-major-progress-zluda-update-now-has-two-full-time-developers-working-on-32-bit-physx-support-and-llms-amongst-other-things

[olive sable]

I just dont want cuda to hog recources

[nocturne olive]

NVLink? 3090 and 3090 Ti have it

[olive sable]

They sure do

[opaque sigil]

different thing

[olive sable]

Yours has it, and mine does too

[nocturne olive]

Whar thing?

[opaque sigil]

i'm talking about splitting a physical gpu into multiple logical gpus

[nocturne olive]

Oh, well that's just silly

[olive sable]

It can be useful for some thing, i just dont know what

Mainly structuring ig

Vulkan does hzve some nifty features, you can rasterize only the polygon edges if you want

[nocturne olive]

Wireframe mode?

[olive sable]

Ye kinda

Im not sure how exactly it works, but it should basicly bf wireframe mode ye

Guys, vulkan is OOP???

[rough bloom]

is that an actual question?

[olive sable]

No

But i thought yall HATED OOP

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

Or well. Its not inherently OOP but it kinda mostly is

[opaque sigil]

in what way would vulkan be oop what

[rough bloom]

sir it's a C API

[olive sable]

You use functions, but you treat the things as objects

[rough bloom]

yeah, but the functions operate on the resources, they aren't part of the resources themselves

[olive sable]

The buffers and stuff arent actual objects, but you use them as such no?

[rough bloom]

also there's no inheritance and stuff

[opaque sigil]

passing 15 parameters around isn't particularly fun

[rough bloom]

no not really
there are resources, but you don't call functions through those resources
they're completely separate

[olive sable]

You still need to handle lifetimes and such

You just do it as a function instead

I agree that its not the same, but it feels like OOP sometimes

[rough bloom]

you're OOP-brained

give up C++, return to C

[opaque sigil]

i'm afraid it's terminal

[olive sable]

It doesnt help that the docs put everything in a vulkan class

Im going insane probably

[tender river]

doesnt help that python uses classes for something as simple as aggregating values

[olive sable]

Its fine

[opaque sigil]

you are going insane yes

[olive sable]

Im too python pilled

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

Im not allowed to drink in montenegro

[noble zodiac]

whose gonna stop you tho

[warped narwhal]

Just wait until you get to DX12, where everything is an object, but also not an object, but also at the same time it is actually an interface, but you must use a second object to access it, and everything is created by using this second object (which accesses the first object) and pass it a struct that has 30 options which nest other structs just so you can configure your screen to turn a different shade of red.

[olive sable]

The barman

[olive sable]

I just wont go to dx12

Ill keep using vulkan thanks

[warped narwhal]

I'll be honest, I actually prefer the d3d12 api over vulkan, it's just easier to work with IMO

[olive sable]

Ive never even seen the d3d12 api so very possible

the sectet pipeline

Task/mesh pipeline should replace tesselation pretty well

[nocturne olive]

It's also Windows exclusive so it's limisted in where it can be used

[olive sable]

Yep

So i wont be using it

[real sierra]

I've been telling my coworker about screeps for the last 15 min

[sage crag]

have they locked you in a box yet

[real sierra]

they said they might get into it

[sage crag]

will you be reincarnated as a screep when you die

[olive sable]

The server bout to be me, 2 mods, and a mod's coworker

The power dynamic bouita be wild

[sage crag]

rip sam's pc, lost but not forgotten

[olive sable]

my pc?

What about my pc?

[uneven pulsar]

When you know about my first gen laptop

Idiot

[olive sable]

[rare jewel]

i broke my fucking keyboard

i type wierd as shit

help

[sage crag]

[uneven pulsar]

On-screen keyboard

[hoary lion]

konii why your profile pic is extra big?

[uneven pulsar]

That's just the tv decoration

[sage crag]

im being contained

release me

[trim valve]

i forgot avatar decorations existed

[uneven pulsar]

The trick looks good tho, good job

[sage crag]

@stark needle

[nocturne olive]

Recently I discovered an interesting difference between the Windows command prompt and Linux terminal, can anyone guess what it is?

[sage crag]

linux terminal emulates a tty, windows console is standalone?

[uneven pulsar]

Not a good coder, but believe me I was surprised when some PowerShell commands were the same as Linux terminal

[stark needle]

😭 automod

[sage crag]

partially convergent evolution, partially intentional copying

commands like tree existed on computers way before linux and windows

[nocturne olive]

On Linux terminal, reading stdin is blocking, but on Windows a thread can both read stdin and do other processing

[stark needle]

i turned konii into a <insert series from which her profile border thing is> character

[opaque sigil]

someone at microsoft thankfully realised that using the command prompt is a miserable experience

[trim valve]

I swear I've done async terminal reading before

[sage crag]

reading stdin can be nonblocking, its just a flag you can set with fnctl

[opaque sigil]

indeed

[sage crag]

stdin is opened automatically but the open syscall accepts O_NONBLOCK

[nocturne olive]

Well, not something I figured out
I just put it on a coroutine running on a different dispatcher

[uneven pulsar]

Anyways, speaking about linux, my android device doesn't have native support for kvm (which is needed for virtualization) so the android native terminal (debian) should not work by default, I made my own replica in a terminal emulator (it even has xfce desktop 😀)

[sage crag]

if you use fnctl on fd 0 (stdin) you can update the flags with O_NONBLOCK

[desert plaza]

aren't commands like "ls" in PowerShell basically just aliases for cmdlets

[opaque sigil]

not basically, they are

[nocturne olive]

And how would one do that on Kotlin?

[rare jewel]

i slammed it twice and it worked

[opaque sigil]

looks like you have to do it the way you did

[sage crag]

java.nio.channels i guess

or a coroutine

[nocturne olive]

Well, putting on a coroutine on the IO dispatcher is good enough

[sage crag]

actually this will still make stdin blocking, it just wont block program execution

technically you could use jna with libc to call fnctl

not really worth it in a real program

less portable, and likely to break

[opaque sigil]

i'm more concerned about kotlin presumably not making it blocking on windows

choose one

[sage crag]

it does seem like awful misparity

i just invented that word, no one can have it

[nocturne olive]

Well, either way, I fixed it and that's what matters

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

also you cant necessarily set it to nonblocking if its piped from some other source

(not all fds can be marked as nonblocking but idk the specifics)

so using blocking reads is the more predictable approach

[warped narwhal]

I cannot even begin to explain the sheer amount of pain it was to get this to show up

[desert plaza]

is IPv6 hard

[warped narwhal]

Thankfully not, but dealing with Hyper's types in rust is

"I heard you like traits, so I added traits in your traits in your traits"

[opaque sigil]

this is why you usually don't use hyper directly

[desert plaza]

rust

[opaque sigil]

[warped narwhal]

I prefer to learn from the lowest level and work my way up. I already have an axum binary that can serve an https project, but I would like to know how the underlying stuff works so it is easier to work with the higher level stuff

[opaque sigil]

fair

[sour harness]

Wait. "S::Error" <- you can do that?

[warped narwhal]

if S is a trait that has type Error then yes

[sour harness]

I probably don't have a use case right now, but that's neat

Oh wait, it's jsut associated types

Sadge

[desert plaza]

learn from the lowest level hm? write a binary executable by hand right now

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[olive sable]

[rare bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1364165934906081360/neuro_brick_rain.gif

[ruby timber]

Would like some function with your traits?

[olive sable]

Yes please

[opaque sigil]

could use more traits

[warped narwhal]

I can't do binary, but I can do asm:

section .rodata
hello: db "Hello, World!", 0x0A, 
.end: db 0x00

section .text
global _start
_start:
    mov rax, 0x01
    mov rdi, 0x01
    mov rsi, hello
    mov rdx, hello.end - hello
    syscall

    mov rax, 0x3c
    xor rdi, rdi
    syscall

[olive sable]

Could use more sugar

[amber fractal]

Tasty

[olive sable]

The GOAT

[desert plaza]

mhm is that nasm syntax

[olive sable]

Best bench in town

This bench was in the middle of some ruins from a castle

[rigid snow]

what the fuck

imagine it fit into the context ts would've bankrupted me

[tender river]

using llms for zip decompression

[warped narwhal]

yes, cause intel syntax > at&t syntax

[desert plaza]

so real and true

[olive sable]

E = mc² + AI

So AI = 0

[tender river]

intel syntax ftw (totally not biased because of ida)

[warped narwhal]

progress has been made

[rigid snow]

smh serving files

too user friendly

[blazing hound]

Sentient AI yadda yadda yadda.

[blazing hound]

Mmm yes html css js site. All is right as it should be.

[amber fractal]

This is facts

[rigid snow]

the question now is, is A = 0, I = 0 or both

[olive sable]

Artificial is 0

Intelligence is variable

[faint sandal]

ok now do the same syscall for windows

[warped narwhal]

instantly 10k lines long

[desert plaza]

wdym syscall, don't you mean Win32 API

[faint sandal]

it's more like a dozen or two if you're writing for specific Windows version

[faint sandal]

anything can call syscall if it wanted to

it'd be a little bit more reliable through ntdll/other existing Microsoft bins that call syscall on the system but there's nothing stopping you from calling syscall yourself

[desert plaza]

ik but it's funny how nobody wants to

linux syscalls are so simple

windows is so needlessly complicated smh

my head

[rigid snow]

a chrome wrapper for your gpt wrapper for your cli wrapper for your syscall wrapper

isn't life beautiful

[olive sable]

I wonder if cloudburst got to reading those docs

ive finally gotten to the actual rendering

After 123 pages

[stone cedar]

Are you actually reading the docs top to bottom?

[olive sable]

Yes

[stone cedar]

Holy

[olive sable]

Not really "docs" but this thing from the vulkan website

[stone cedar]

That is more reasonable.

I wonder how big the actual docs are without all the VUID tables that just fill 4 pages for a single function from time to time

[desert plaza]

is it

[olive sable]

Yep

The more cursed the v´better

[faint sandal]

https://sec.cloudapps.cisco.com/security/center/content/CiscoSecurityAdvisory/cisco-sa-cucm-ssh-m4UBdpE7

day 0 since the last cvss 10.0 from cisco

[rigid snow]

c++ obviously executes each line >100x faster

rust executes each line >300x faster

c >500x faster

real

[hoary lion]

is it worth learning c

[opaque sigil]

yes

[opaque sigil]

why is it always cisco

[faint sandal]

it's always Cisco or PaloAlto or Ivanti

[rigid snow]

i like to imagine someone once googled "fastest programming language", got assembly, learned it and were confused why their C implementation runs faster

average saas startup website design in 2024

[minor crag]

I don't understand those words

[rigid snow]

good

[minor crag]

if you explain those magical words I'll give you a cookie

[brisk halo]

Heh…I only know how to code on SCRATCH!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[minor crag]

You are more advanced than Mr vedal

[oak flicker]

large attack surface mixed with poor programming I assume

[brisk halo]

Hehehe

[olive sable]

Goodnight guys

[oak flicker]

🫡

[desert plaza]

i must go to slumber now as well

[real sierra]

oh no you dont

[oak flicker]

still at work sadly

nap sounds nice though

[minor crag]

Why do people sleep?

[olive sable]

Bro is gone all day, and suddendly appears when im going to bed

[real sierra]

[minor crag]

I hadn't sleeped in like 27 hours (rough guess)

[real sierra]

screep time

[olive sable]

Have fun

Its 1am here tho

[real sierra]

ik

[olive sable]

Bye

[real sierra]

i just wanted to say hi to you

beofre you wenmt tob ed

go sleep now

a mimir

[minor crag]

French traitor

[olive sable]

Okay, bye

[oak flicker]

🥖

[olive sable]

Who said im french?

[minor crag]

I know its almost 1am in France and you said 1am

Plus you smell French (that's not an insult (mods plz no ban))

[olive sable]

Im nowhere near france rn

[oak flicker]

Oui Oui

[minor crag]

Huh

[real sierra]

[olive sable]

And im belgian

[real sierra]

what is it with all of you and doxxing yourselves

[olive sable]

Im on vacation, i dont live here

[real sierra]

doesnt matter if you dont live there

you're there right now

never share your current location on social media

[minor crag]

Yes I'm going to walk to Montenegro (very cool looking place I've never heard of) and rob a random person from discord

[olive sable]

If they're able to even figure out what city im in, they wont find the hotel

Im fine

[minor crag]

(Me is joking since you should never share location)

[real sierra]

given the tenth of a million people in this server

im willing to bet at least one of them is insane enough to go visit you or track you down

gambling that they're not going to see this isnt worth imo

[olive sable]

[minor crag]

Podgorica

[oak flicker]

nah, that would mean they went outside

[olive sable]

If someone is doing that, i just want to let them know they have no life

[oak flicker]

nobody does that here

[real sierra]

you jest but im dead serious

[olive sable]

wrong buzzer

[real sierra]

idk

maybe ive just become more paranoid

have had some poor online experiences

[olive sable]

Its fair advice, but im only here for 2 days and then going to the next place

[oak flicker]

I do agree that its good advise in general

[olive sable]

All the pictures ive sent i only sent after i left the place

[minor crag]

Golubovci

[olive sable]

Tbh i have no fucking clue what city im in

[minor crag]

Crap

[opaque wharf]

Shiro, I was having a great idea to tell you before I went to sleep. But now that I've woken up I forgot what it is

[rigid snow]

saas is software-as-a-service i guess, and i'm referring to this phenomenon. have i earned a cookie yet

[olive sable]

Ok, gn now

Bye

[oak flicker]

o7

[hoary lion]

bye

c seems kinda smol

is it functional language

[minor crag]

No because you made my website feel inadequate (I spent 19 hours learning CSS and js to just write the 1 page I showed)

[real sierra]

my tower is done on screeps

[hoary lion]

what is screeps

[real sierra]

now i can defend against invaders easier

[hoary lion]

ive been hearing this for two days and im clueless

[minor crag]

Happy midnight

[real sierra]

Screeps: World is an open source MMO RTS sandbox game. With all the attributes of a full-fledged strategy game, you control your colony by writing script that operates 24/7 in the single persistent open world filled by other players on par with you.

Your colony can harvest resources, build units, conquer territory, trade with other colonies. As you conquer more territory, your influence in the game world grows, as well as your abilities to expand your footprint. But beware, multiple players aiming for the same territory may lead to conflict!

Screeps is developed for people with programming skills. Unlike some other RTS games, your units in Screeps can react to events without your participation – provided that you have programmed them properly. And, unlike other MMO, you do not have to play Screeps constantly to play well. It is quite enough just to check once in a while to see if everything goes well.

[hoary lion]

oh this!

this kinda cool

[rigid snow]

and these people spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of VC money on designers for these to follow a trend and look like futuristic slop

[oak flicker]

sounds kinda cool

[hoary lion]

it has dedicated vm for sandboxxing JS safely

[real sierra]

(or wasm, if you hate js and would rather transpile from your lang of choice)

[minor crag]

I don't have that much but I can't have my GUI not look futuristic

[tender geode]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHIRO

[real sierra]

unfortunately today is not my birthday

[rigid snow]

cap

[real sierra]

but since you clearly couldn't havep ossibly known that

ill let it slide

[minor crag]

Wasm big good

[tender geode]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[real sierra]

ok now debug your code

[minor crag]

If it runs in vs code then it will probably run once compiled

[real sierra]

[minor crag]

If it doesn't then you gotta pull out the incense and get praying to the Omnissiah

[rigid snow]

don't you know? vscode the famous wasm runtime

[minor crag]

Not what I meant

If the code runs in vs code then it should probably work once compiled to wasm

[real sierra]

you cant adequately test the code outside of the game

thats why im ing

[opaque wharf]

I REMEMBER NOW. Make a repo of your screeps script so we all can clown on it together like Sam game engine repo

[real sierra]

ok

prepare for my hottest take

VCS are annoying and rarely help me with coding

[sage crag]

you really are a moderator of the vedal987 channel

[opaque wharf]

You need git gud

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[real sierra]

now THAT is a game that would feel like work

[minor crag]

Git is for nerds

[sage crag]

3 dollars to go through version control hell

no thanks

[real sierra]

code review has 27 unresolved comments

[sage crag]

@scarlet arch show us your latest rebase

im sure you have a new one by now

[real sierra]

in place of touching any vcs

i might just dump all the js source here

[minor crag]

Also

Doss anyone know if sir Mr vedal is at anthrocon?

[sage crag]

act of war

[rigid snow]

also this is a publicly discoverable server which means anyone can view without joining, and 5 llm providers are scraping this very message as we speak

[minor crag]

That's why I speak gibberish

Iwqjqjnerjfififi is my home town

[sage crag]

any llm that uses data from this server may as well set itself on fire

[minor crag]

Joe is the most popular breed of domesticated flying cat monkey

[sage crag]

i think my point is clear

[minor crag]

That sounds insulting

[rigid snow]

[oak flicker]

oh lawdddd

[sage crag]

shr biggest spammer

[real sierra]

[rigid snow]

not fucking lodash nooooooooo

why

[stone cedar]

How else should an LLM learn hblang if not scraping this channel

[sage crag]

llm should roll over and explode before learning hblang

[real sierra]

it is the only builtin

[minor crag]

Hmmm this doesn't look to follow rule 5

I should unnecessarily ping vedal (that's probably not agents the rules)

[rigid snow]

yeah no do wasm atp

[sage crag]

port sam's game engine to screeps

[rigid snow]

oh and the old js version too i forgor

[opaque wharf]

Oh god he did the crime

[sage crag]

i forgive shr

[rigid snow]

i do too

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

tbh

[opaque wharf]

God I forgot how awful it is when using require

[real sierra]

i thought discord would leave them as files

not expand them like that

condolences

[rigid snow]

good feature

[opaque wharf]

True, so we don't have to download said warcrime to our PC

[sage crag]

at least it doesnt on mobile

[real sierra]

anyway thats the current AI

[opaque wharf]

Congrats. Your eyes are saved

[sage crag]

nuro integration for screeps

[real sierra]

my code isnt that bad

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, just old JS style

[rigid snow]

mom i'm on tv

[sage crag]

javascript

[scarlet arch]

I do not. Also it's 01:23

[sage crag]

oop

[scarlet arch]

[sage crag]

sory

[scarlet arch]

You're good haha

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

byter