programming

[real sierra]

thanksd

[opaque wharf]

Its called spread syntax is JS I think

[real sierra]

"Destructuring"

cant call it anything sensible or industry standard

that would be too useful

[sage crag]

i could be a meteor

you would never know until it's too late

[real sierra]

because you're on fire

[opaque wharf]

Its literally spear syntax
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/Spread_syntax

Spear... yeah that happens

[real sierra]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/Destructuring

[sage crag]

javascript spear

the forecast says it will be 20 celcius tomorrow

[opaque wharf]

That's for assignment

[sage crag]

which means it will have gone down by 12 celcius

i pray for it

[real sierra]

ill assign you

to undefined

[sage crag]

please dont, i saw what happened to your screeps

[dark valve]

Is it python code or somethings?

[tiny mango]

Screeps looks like an actually fun thing

will i get rolled if I don't know the meta or is it something you can slowly get better at

"the meta" just being good code lmfao

[real sierra]

javascript

[real sierra]

they have a number of very helpful things for starting, to avoid this issue

https://docs.screeps.com/start-areas.html

[sage crag]

meow

[tiny mango]

is there pvp or is it just resource gathering and vibing?

[real sierra]

there is pvp

[tiny mango]

what are flags?

last question from me, I'll check out docs afterwards lol

[real sierra]

flags are cosmetic

just markers you can use as you please

[tiny mango]

Oh I see I see, fun cute

[real sierra]

any function they might have is function you add yourself

[tiny mango]

turn_east()
mine()

[real sierra]

but yeah screeps is fun

it can be daunting to start but you can mostly take it one thing at a time

just start by figuring out how to make a creep

then how to make it move

and how to make it do other stuff

[tiny mango]

Macbook M4 chip -- how warm will my laptop get

[sage crag]

what is the shiro word of the day

[real sierra]

if you play on the official server, not at all -- the code runs on the server

[tiny mango]

Oh sick

[real sierra]

the game is really just a nice wrapper for a browser client

[tiny mango]

Gotchya

[real sierra]

so if you can run a youtube video

you're probably good

[tiny mango]

Most days I can

[real sierra]

overintellectualization

[sage crag]

this is encouraging

[opaque wharf]

If it runs browser, it'll run screeps

[tiny mango]

I try

[tiny mango]

most days i can

[sage crag]

what is the shiro wordn't of the day

[real sierra]

good code

[sage crag]

[tiny mango]

TWO wordn'ts

[real sierra]

i replaced the cache wrap function with one that doesnt use the cache at all

and im averaging 3 cpu

but with the actual cache wrapper

im averaging 4.5

how did this happen

[opaque wharf]

The cache is not warm enough

Lots of misses too maybe

[real sierra]

cant be that many misses

the functions i wanted to cache most were ones like this

[opaque wharf]

Only one way to find out

[real sierra]

getWithdrawables: cache.wrap(function(room) {
        const prio = {};
        prio[STRUCTURE_STORAGE] = 0;
        prio[STRUCTURE_CONTAINER] = 1;
        prio[STRUCTURE_EXTENSION] = 2;
        prio[STRUCTURE_SPAWN] = 3;
        return room.find(FIND_STRUCTURES, {
           filter: function(s) {
               return s.store && ((s.structureType != STRUCTURE_SPAWN && s.store.getUsedCapacity(RESOURCE_ENERGY) > 0) || (s.structureType == STRUCTURE_SPAWN && s.store.getFreeCapacity(RESOURCE_ENERGY) == 0));
           } 
        }).sort((a, b) => (prio[a] - prio[b]));
    }),

ugly and expensive

[round berry]

me too

[real sierra]

given the only parameter is the current room

and i have all of

...one room

this should hit pretty reliably

actually maybe its not as bad as i thought

im back down to 3 CPU

[opaque wharf]

See, not warm enough

[real sierra]

i also might just not have the scale required to see the benefit

[opaque wharf]

You could also perform the warming up when you have excess compute (the bucket thingy)

[real sierra]

i mean

lets be clear

these functions are being cached for a single tick

lots and lots of stuff can be cached for one tick since actions taken during the tick aren't committed until after the tick completes

[opaque wharf]

Wait so on the next tick its all gone?

[real sierra]

yeah

[opaque wharf]

[sage crag]

why cache then

[real sierra]

because some of these functions are expensive and need to be called many times a tick

some of them are O(creep) so

more units = big slow

[opaque wharf]

Oh so you mean the Memory object is literally shared just for one tick?

[real sierra]

no i mean

theres almost that can be cached for longer than a tick

units move, resources are spent or change, creeps move in/out of the map

[round berry]

Silly question
Whats a tick in this context?

[real sierra]

a game tick

[round berry]

Oh okay so it is that

[real sierra]

a single time step within the game world

during this, every player's AI script runs once

[round berry]

I thought it was like a specific unit of clock cycles

[real sierra]

each creep can generally take a single action per tick

[real sierra]

lol not really, but there is an equivalence of sorts

players get an execution time budget for their AI

[round berry]

I get what gameticks are, played both osrs and minecraft

[real sierra]

for example, mine is 20 CPU, which correlates to 20ms per game tick

[opaque wharf]

You can think of it like that

[real sierra]

but yeah my issue with caching is

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, same here. Tick is just game tick

[real sierra]

almost every aspect of the game state changes between game ticks

so there's next to no information worth caching between game ticks

within a game tick however, most of that state is entirely frozen, and given you need to issue similar commands and process similar information for numerous creeps of the same role, i think there's still benefit to caching on a per-tick basis

i just need the creep count to justify the overhead

[round berry]

Think it could be useful to make creeps do more complex instructions? Rather than like
Walk left, walk right, walk up, walk down?

Like say "Walk left until you find a wall or have an enemy in line of sight, then reconsider"?

That could perhaps save on compute time?

(Based on pretty much no info on how your game works, just assumptions )

[real sierra]

worry not

the game is kind enough to provide pathfinding for you

[round berry]

How kind of it

[real sierra]

you can abstract to the level of "ok creep, move to this structure" and it will find (and limitedly cache) a path to that structure if it exists, and take a single step along that path if possible for this game tick

[round berry]

Read up very briefly on what screeps is, I get it now

[sage crag]

please github i do not want to see my dependabot alerts for this week

stop emailing me microsoft

[opaque wharf]

Then turn off yo damn notification setting

[sage crag]

but then i have to open my email client and look at the backlog

[round berry]

Me too man

Working on a thing that is entirely unrelated to what is failing
And its not my job to fix

[opaque wharf]

You guys didn't turn off email notification?

[round berry]

Probably should

[real sierra]

i should turn on screeps email notifs

thanks for reminding me

[sage crag]

how will i know that my vps provider upcharged me again

[round berry]

JUST MERGE I KNOW ITLL FAIL ALREADY

[opaque wharf]

Hey, this and that are different lol. Why would you want github dependabot email notification on

[real sierra]

all my creeps died again

i feel so stupid

[dark valve]

Bruh idk anything about javascript bro

[real sierra]

nor do i

i learned it because of and for express purpose of this game

[opaque wharf]

Its easy. Trust me

[dark valve]

?

[dark valve]

Real ?🤔🤔

[opaque wharf]

Just try pressing F12 on your browser

[dark valve]

but i'm chatting on the phone:))

[round berry]

Press F12 on your phone then

[dark valve]

Idk where i can press it bro

[opaque wharf]

Buy external keyboard

[dark valve]

I use Android

[dark valve]

No money to buy ☠️

https://tenor.com/view/broke-wallet-i-am-broke-no-money-no-cash-gif-24120042

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-embed-failure-gif-15456327638408323033

[gritty dust]

frlolll

peak

[opaque wharf]

Holy mother of back reading

[tender river]

i know two people who have hacked websites to reset their passwords (is one of them me? maybe, maybe not, no comment)

[opaque wharf]

Reminds me of the old time where I'm still learning. I used a PHP shell so I don't have to login via the godawful site that is CPanel not knowing what its usually used for lol

[tiny mango]

just put all your pwords on a sticky note on your monitor!!

you can put another sticky note over it that says "don't look"

[opaque wharf]

Shiro, you're not gonna believe me
https://mindustrygame.github.io/wiki/logic/0-introduction/

[tender river]

meow you please add Result?

[maiden geyser]

good morbing, chat

[real sierra]

good morbing

[hoary lion]

finished adaptive norm

it's diffusing time

[real sierra]

finished coding a crucial role in my screeps empire

as with any goliath, the silent workhorse of logistics is everything

and so ive created a creep whose only job it is to collect trash laying on the ground and move resources between storages

surprisingly this was the most complicated to code

the effects were immediate tho

the AI has started pumping out larger units, since it finally has the resources in the right structures to construct them

double-sized miners have caused the economy to skyrocket

[opaque wharf]

American military is not the strongest because they have so many shiny new toys but because their logistic capabilities is extremely powerful

Supply lines people. When waging war make sure it is secured

[real sierra]

[maiden geyser]

having a mcdonald's in the pentagon won't hurt though

[real sierra]

things arent spawning at all now

spawner?

i may have broken the spawn queue when i was playing with console commands

oopies

[tender river]

ew there was a bug, off to the spider you go

[real sierra]

my units are just wandering into other rooms randomly?

i didnt even know they could do that

wtf are you doing in here lil guy

[tender river]

sentience

[real sierra]

??????

even more are just going to the other room

why

what is going on

[tender river]

they are unionizing

[slim marsh]

you dont give them food

you dont value their freedom

[real sierra]

im so confused tho

this upgrader is just

going

somewhere

bro this isnt my controller you cant just go upgrade it

[opaque wharf]

You keep spider as pets?

[tender river]

no, we just have a non-aggression pact

[real sierra]

ok i figured it out

some asshole fell asleep on the road despite being coded otherwise

so the upgraders' only way to get to the controller was to go through the adjacent room

but upon walking into this room, they thought it was home

and they live here now

which is a problem

[tender river]

shiro i just had a revelation i realized functional logic programming languages' amb special form can be considered to be a symmetric product this is huge

i want to pursue this idea further you have no idea how important this is

[real sierra]

[tender river]

another thesis to read

from one of xmonad's authors

but after i read it i think i will be (somewhat) set to make a new language and i actually have some confidence in it turning out good this time

i just don't know whether it will require building a proof checker

this is the scary part

[inner pike]

Got the first of my exams this semester today

[real sierra]

ok im aware of more bugs but i cant fix them tonight, not enough time

for next time tho

spawning.pull needs to verify that the specific spawner has the capacity to spawn what is pulled from the queue

and logistics bots are still doing weird behaviour where they sit idle, probably more error codes i need to catch

im sure my screeps will survive in the meantime

[opaque wharf]

Famous last words

[midnight sigil]

can't believe I'm here installing python environment for my school

that's fucked up

[hoary lion]

this cannot be real

and should not be

[jolly fulcrum]

Oh, hello. So can you guys help me with something?

I really want to learn about computer science, but more on the practical side—like being able to do my own check-ups, knowing how to react when my notebook is slow.

I’m not interested in something deeper, such as programming or similar topics. I’ve tried searching for videos about it on YouTube, but it’s kinda hard without a clear direction. And when I go over the very basic stuff—like "What is hardware/software?" or "What is HTTPS?" Is not super practical, so I lose interest very easily. Any tips?

[inner pike]

Em dash spotted

[opaque wharf]

Try to get concrete things of what you wanted to do using your personal computer. Then check to see how to do it in Linux. Then install linux

[jagged turtle]

I have to manage my school's servers but in return I get to use a server as a personal server while I'm at school

[hoary lion]

With this treasure found in #programming I summon iggly

[stark needle]

[midnight sigil]

damn

[jagged turtle]

it's nice too since it bypasses the normal school restrictions

[stark needle]

and BIG on price
https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/more-watts-big-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-super-leaks/

[serene briar]

can some one send code "BLUE" chart really quick, i wanna download it

[serene briar]

ah so basic maintanence stuff?/

[midnight sigil]

I wish I can do that too

[amber fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

I'm pretty sure that is the exact name of the bingo slot as well

[midnight sigil]

[tender river]

making ad hoc polymorphism explicit by supporting infinitary product types is certainly one of the ideas i've had

i don't know what will or won't work but at this point i have so many stupid ideas i must try them out

and the best part is the ideas haven't changed that much since like 2 years ago they just became more refined

[amber fractal]

I have had my thought process exposed: bwaa. If I need material things, I'm willing to wait for years to make it work out nicely.

I just hope this is the last version of my magic idea. Because if I have any more issues, it's going to take so long just to get to parity with what I have now.
(This is not off topic, I intend to make this into a game physics system eventually)

[fast pagoda]

now that's a backup format

i think all .json should come as .json.pdf

[tulip ermine]

Can someone just give me some uh training data for my chatbot. Its supposed to be a programmer so just give me lines of code I don't fucking know, and I'm to lazy

😢

[tender river]

if i have an idea on how to make things work, i try it, if i dont then i just sit on it for years until i learn enough to approach it again

[safe path]

omg the dragon book

every professor ever keeps a copy as a trophy

[autumn ore]

Totally not my wrongdoing

[rigid snow]

how tf do you accidentally do that

[autumn ore]

Phone wouldn’t let me rename file extension

[opaque wharf]

Wait, but the pdf renders just fine?

So the PDF reader could be used to read raw text file?

[faint lagoon]

Idk even know how to code yet but I had an idea wanna do when I learn but I'm curious how possible it is.
The idea is to connect discord to either an common texting app or make one to connect to ur discord, bc I wanna make it so we can use discord emojis while texting outside discord

[rigid snow]

i imagine they only had ms word or similar on their phone

[tender river]

the other chatting apps wouldnt be able to display discord emoji

[amber fractal]

raw text has no formatting, I see no reason it wouldn't work

[tender river]

but if you want something that bridges multiple messengers i recommend trying matrix

[rigid snow]

if more apps add support for the new apple custom emoji thing that could happen

[opaque wharf]

I don't know man. Its just seems like a scope creep to me

[tender river]

the most user friendly option is probably https://www.beeper.com/ (but note that it isn't the most secure or private one)

[faint lagoon]

oh wait,why?

[amber fractal]

If pdfs can contain executables then I think this lax in terms of scope creep

[tender river]

because you can only send text in them

[opaque wharf]

For technical reasons, other messaging apps must be able to show image file along with text

[rigid snow]

the only apps i know that have custom emoji support are telegram, imessage, discord and slack

[opaque wharf]

You have a big point there

[faint lagoon]

Oohh

[tender river]

just because you can modify an app to send something other than text doesnt mean you can modify the servers to accept it or the app on other people's devices to actually draw it

[rigid snow]

react server components with react native

[tender river]

react no code with react cloud

[rigid snow]

no code

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

[rigid snow]

no but it’s actually cool, just sucks that it has react plastered over the definition

[amber fractal]

The only jank method would involve the application based unicode section and a decoder, but that is still very much in modifing apps scope. (Godsend for whatever system is used for custom fonts)

[ruby timber]

Morning!

[rigid snow]

what would one call that, server defined ui

or something

[tender river]

iframes

[rigid snow]

it’s native

[tender river]

native iframes

[noble zodiac]

nframes

[amber fractal]

inative frames

[opaque wharf]

Oh god so many cursed idea just to achieve cross-app emoji

[rigid snow]

i mean there are the four apps i mentioned

[tender river]

matrix just uses inline html images for emoji

[rigid snow]

though truly arbitrary images as emoji are in imessage only, probably telegram too but i’m not sure

[opaque wharf]

You think browser didn't use the native UI element?

We go back to HTML+CSS with that

[rigid snow]

what? i mean react native

[amber fractal]

The only benefit for this trash heap is all that is needed is just custom fonts. How in the frick one does that is an exercise in the durability of your skull and the wall.

[opaque wharf]

Yes, and browser interpret the HTML+CSS then render it using platform native component no?

[rigid snow]

do people still think react native is a fucking webview in the big 25

i’m gonna crash out

[opaque wharf]

You sent out react native from the server dynamically

The app must display said component

How is that not a browser?

[rigid snow]

skia or whatever chrome uses is not native

[noble zodiac]

You are thinking too small. The environmental impact has to be maximized. Use a model to convert the emote to a text description and then another model to generate an image from it on the receiving end

[rigid snow]

it’s a graphics library

not native ui

[tender river]

use a model to convert the entire message in an arbitrary format to an LLM summary and use an LLM for rendering the entire message on the other end

this is truly generic and allows full interoperability between arbitrary apps

one may call this, the singular messenger

[noble zodiac]

replace the apps users with llms as well

[opaque wharf]

To be fair tho, using skia is big brain move because not every platform may have the needed native ui component for all of the web spec

[amber fractal]

Wait, we created twitter again
Go back

[noble zodiac]

you mean X the everything app (tm)

[opaque wharf]

So rather than "Oh, we don't have dropdown on x,y,z", they create one and reuse it everywhere

Rather than making dropdown looks the same on x,y, and z

[amber fractal]

X is my reaction to how many of the users are human

[olive sable]

Driving up a mountain is painfull.
We had to go up and down on the same road.
When you have to pass another car you're fucked and have to go backwards to one of the turns cuz there's more space there

I have decided yall need to know my pain

[amber fractal]

How many steps can you skip on these stairs

[opaque wharf]

3

Take it or leave it

[olive sable]

Depends on the stairs?
I can do 5 at home but those are small

[amber fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-your-head-gif-8604199

[olive sable]

Yep

I still dont get it tho

[opaque wharf]

This is the stairs

[olive sable]

So uhh. You can skip a step, but you will need to hike up the mountain instead for 50m

[opaque wharf]

Now I'm wondering how would you fare if you were being interviewed by Philomena Cunk, Sam

[amber fractal]

I'm betting depending on where and you speed, you could skip a few going down.

[olive sable]

Idk who that is

[olive sable]

The problem is landing

[opaque wharf]

Oh, then you should see a few video of her interview on youtube. Quite informative if I do say so myself

[amber fractal]

Oh, you'll land all right

[olive sable]

Ohhh

The british girl

Idd outplay her 💯

[opaque wharf]

I wonder if vedal ever get interviewed by her what would he response to some of the question lol

[olive sable]

Vedal getting interviewed

[amber fractal]

It'll never be on his channel

[opaque wharf]

Due to sheer amount of profanity?

[amber fractal]

I'm more thinking he just wouldn't want to do it on there

[fast pagoda]

i thought it would just be a .json with the wrong ext

but no

[olive sable]

True

[fast pagoda]

opened it to find this

[opaque wharf]

I love this part in the video
https://youtu.be/d2RCr-6heC0?feature=shared&t=172

[opaque wharf]

My god...

[fast pagoda]

but not before blindly feeding it to the grid restore from file endpoint

luckily it did not explode

[olive sable]

[autumn ore]

(Starts to laugh my ass off)

[opaque wharf]

"Ahh, yes. Must've been misnamed file. In we go" It was not, in fact, misnamed file

[autumn ore]

Yeah not that was my fault

No

[opaque wharf]

And this dude just tanks the questioning
https://youtu.be/cWwcA2c361I?feature=shared&t=137

[noble zodiac]

huh, Huaweis open weight model explicitly forbids its usage within the EU

[olive sable]

We dont want your stupid baby weight model anyways

[noble zodiac]

Conditions for License Grant. You represent and warrant that You will not, access, download, install, run, deploy, integrate, modify, or otherwise use the Model, directly or indirectly, within the European Union.

[fast pagoda]

ii know how they feel

[olive sable]

Huawei or people in the EU?

[jagged turtle]

lmao

how are they gonna enforce that

checking the origin location of the request based off IP?

[tender river]

they dont have to enforce it

its the responsibility of companies to, you know, not break the copyright law

[rigid snow]

is a license copyright law

[tender river]

theres no hard barriers but there are a lot of options and that clause definitely moves the chance a EU company is gonna use it close to zero

[maiden geyser]

what's the difference between birthday and real birthday

[tender river]

yes, though there are also EULAs which is contract law

[noble zodiac]

also I assume the point of this clause is rather to be protected from the EUs AI act by just cutting them out completely

[jagged turtle]

well yeah

but what company here?

[opaque wharf]

We have permanent birthday boi here

[rigid snow]

[noble zodiac]

mods

[opaque wharf]

Let's put a timer

[unkempt citrus]

<@&574931772781887488>

Thats a bit.ly link too

[opaque wharf]

Alright, that's quiet fast

[noble zodiac]

thank you whoever it was

[unkempt citrus]

some in #general-network ponged it too

[maiden geyser]

what a weird groundhog day

[opaque wharf]

Alright, this takes the credit for all of cunk shenanigans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0fb4LTQKkY

Also the aftermath is quite funny

[maiden geyser]

this is the first time i saw "1 message hidden from likely spammer"

HUGE for the unemployed

[rigid snow]

[opaque wharf]

Wdym? What does it have to do with the unemployed?

[rigid snow]

discord users = unemployed, therefore a QOL feature in discord is huge for the unemployed

[opaque wharf]

I still wait to celebrate until they have no-ping reply options by default

[rigid snow]

you will accidentally p*ng vedal and you will like it

[opaque wharf]

Bet

Either Ladev of 986

[rigid snow]

don’t

[unkempt citrus]

Slow

22 minutes

[rigid snow]

pretending that wasn’t my message that summoned you smh

[opaque wharf]

Bro really timed it

[unkempt citrus]

I can read a clock

and messages have timestamps

[real sierra]

given I was asleep 22 minutes ago

I feel like that wasn't bad

[unkempt citrus]

are you saying discord moderating isn't your highest priority?

I'm dissapointed in you

[opaque wharf]

Something is calling from within the dream realm?

[real sierra]

work according to your pay, as they say

[unkempt citrus]

[rigid snow]

so don’t ?

or do you expect me to believe that y’all get paid

[unkempt citrus]

I know some streamers pay their mods

[real sierra]

no, no I do not

I'm so tired

but I must get out of bed to check on my screeps

[unkempt citrus]

What if you remote into your pc through your phone

so you can check your screeps wihtout getting out of bed

[tender river]

get a steam deck to play screeps more efficiently

[rigid snow]

coding on a steam deck

[real sierra]

i appreciate that this is possible but still cannot think of a single case that i would care that much

[ruby timber]

Accidentally put a Game.notify call in the loop body and receive one email per second

[tender river]

what if somebody attacks your base while you're at a meeting?

you have to know immediately and open screeps to make sure your defenses are doing fine

[real sierra]

bro

[unkempt citrus]

Or just edge case logging

[real sierra]

if im writing hotfixes mid-battle i've already lost

[tender river]

if they fixed the issue you won

[unkempt citrus]

Just running day to day, if something results in no clear decision have it email so you can review

[opaque wharf]

Don't give him ideas. Poor guy will start mumbling about JS in no time

[trim valve]

I saw a neat usecase for this with the profiler linked in the docs

[tender river]

shiro shiro you should build an ISA in factorio it will be fun

[trim valve]

it just emails you the profile instead of one of the slightly more random ways it can do it

[real sierra]

ive only made very limited computers in factorio so far

i should try again sometime

[tender river]

my most involved circuit was never gonna give you up

colored video at 25fps

[real sierra]

i made an analog "hbd" sign once

for someone else, not myself

[opaque wharf]

Would be funny if it were tbh

[real sierra]

full message was "hbd <name>" and it scrolled across a screen of lamps

was rather proud of doing that with the very limited comparators i had at the time

[tender river]

💡💡💡💡💡💡hbd shiro💡💡💡💡💡💡

[real sierra]

[rough bloom]

apparently it's a cronjob that only runs once a minute, at least by default
also it seems that by default the notifications are combined into one mail every hour (at least for private servers)

[opaque wharf]

Well, thank god it is batched job

[ruby timber]

No fun, no email query each second :(

(that's actually so sensible, greatjobscreeps)

[rough bloom]

the mailer is configurable, so you could make it send Discord messages instead

[real sierra]

i thought my code wasnt working for a second

but it was actually working properly in a way i thought wouldnt work properly yet

[ruby timber]

Can you make like different categories of notification that go to different feeds

[tender river]

i had to resist the urge to while true; do sendmail my@email; done

[real sierra]

thank you past self for adding this little bonus feature

[ruby timber]

so you could have like one channel for infos, one channel for warnings, another for big errors and stuff

[real sierra]

one hour of emails sounds quite funny

[jagged turtle]

I think everyone's pinged vedal atp

[rough bloom]

doesn't look like it, the in-game API doesn't support specifying any metadata
you'd have to parse the notification text content as part of the "mailer" mod

[jagged turtle]

ignore that one guy that actually directly pinged vedal

[unkempt citrus]

But yeah it should jsut be for urgent logging if you need it

[rigid snow]

everyone? from:mlntcandy mentions:vedal

[real sierra]

Hello, Shiro Nya! Here are some updates sent by your Screeps colony:

• We conquered a new room: E30N4 (new total: 2)
• We gained 340 energy (new total: 3825)
• We lost 35 creeps (new total: 0)

[tender river]

i never did that

[ruby timber]

I see, still sounds very useful

[jagged turtle]

neither have I apparently, how does one refer to the masses without referring to everyone

[rough bloom]

yeah
mostly because sending mails kinda sucks, especially if they have arbitrary user-defined content

[tender river]

no no you're supposed to call me out

[real sierra]

pinging vedal pro tip: if you lurk neurotic neurons 24/7 and wait for him to show up, you can reply to his message in the moment with ping on without getting in trouble

[unkempt citrus]

Ive never pinged vedal except with

[tender river]

pinging vedal pro tip:

alternatively

[real sierra]

dont shoot the messenger, the dragon's power was not flowing through him nicely that day

[opaque wharf]

JSON it is

[jagged turtle]

uuhhh i'm shooting blanks

[tender river]

damn shiro you beat my vedal ping count by 1

[real sierra]

ackshually according to the docs

you can at the very least schedule 20 notifications per game tick

which should be at least 1 email per real life second unless the server is having a stroke

[ruby timber]

20 PER SECOND?

[rough bloom]

yeah, they get scheduled immediately
to be sent in an hour

[tender river]

probably on private servers

[ruby timber]

Or wait I forgot is a tick one second on the main servers

[opaque wharf]

Tick

[ruby timber]

I haven't finished the tutorial yet

[opaque wharf]

Also queue/schedule

[real sierra]

but the groupInterval parameter says you can specify send delay in minutes

[tender river]

hey shirooo

[real sierra]

if that functionality isnt lying, i imagine it waits at most groupInterval and then sends however many notifications are queued

[tender river]

did you know you can use wasm for screeps

[real sierra]

i do

[tender river]

that increased my interest in it a bit

[real sierra]

this is how most of the third party transpilers work i think

[opaque wharf]

Compiler

[real sierra]

is it a true compiler tho

[opaque wharf]

When the target is WASM, I think it is

[real sierra]

i imagined they probably compile to a binary and then go binary to wasm

[rough bloom]

I don't think it's lying, but I think it's incomplete
there seems to be a separate interval in the user settings that limits it to once an hour by default

[opaque wharf]

Wait, is it?

[real sierra]

not sure

im speculating

[rigid snow]

compiler, the same way babel refers to itself. pmo 💔

[opaque wharf]

Nah, I consider wasm a valid compilation target

[rigid snow]

i do too

[real sierra]

it does seem you compile straight from C to wasm\

[rigid snow]

even ELF of all things supports wasm by spec

[opaque wharf]

...what do you mean by this?

[real sierra]

oh dear god

[rough bloom]

LLVM has a wasm target
dunno about GCC

[tender river]

mmh

[real sierra]

[rigid snow]

it means you can have a elf wasm binary

[real sierra]

dont tell me you're about to say this isnt enough

what are you going to use 2MB on

[tender river]

[real sierra]

bro putting an llm in memory 💔

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, having a brainfart there trying to understand it. But that makes sense now

[real sierra]

it should be said that this amount is for persistent inter-tick memory

i dont believe it includes temporary scoped variables used during a single tick

[tender river]

ooh

now that sounds better

[opaque wharf]

I wonder if people in #gaming will play this game

[tender river]

theres only osu! and factorio in there

[rigid snow]

hoooly

[opaque wharf]

So they will

[tender river]

it also looks like there are shards with separate memories and cpu limits

so if you need to crunch some numbers you can schedule computations to unused shards provided you can handle the communication

wait how often can you deploy new code versions

[rough bloom]

whenever you want I think

there's probably some rate limit, but it's fast

[real sierra]

i can commit pretty quickly

https://docs.screeps.com/auth-tokens.html#Rate-Limiting

may be relevant

[rough bloom]

yeah, looks like it's 240 per day

[real sierra]

10 per hour

[tender river]

hehehe self modifying code that emails the new version to you to autocommit it

[real sierra]

so every 6 min

[rigid snow]

wha

[opaque wharf]

Shiro I'm starting to think introducing screeps to chay was a mistake

[real sierra]

[tender river]

so once per 10 seconds

[real sierra]

you can totally make this work

post a command to console that loads the code into memory as a string

then exec it every tick

[opaque wharf]

[tender river]

you dont need post for that

[real sierra]

theres no console get endpoint

so good luck using something else

[tender river]

no you dont need any api access for that

[real sierra]

i thought what we were trying to solve is you committing more often than the commit rate limit

[tender river]

no, what we were trying to solve is self modifying code

ideally over 2mb

[real sierra]

over 2mb

[tender river]

bwabwa

[real sierra]

bro is gonna have it zipped in memory 💔

[tender river]

the api use was to avoid having to put it to memory in the first place

[real sierra]

oop wait

who's good at automating captchas

[rough bloom]

you could just set the loop function through the console directly, no need to store it in memory I think

[tender river]

globals get reset fairly often

[trim valve]

ok how about you just export a bunch of gamestate into memory, ship it to a backend that does a shitload of processing, then send back "ideal" commands

[rough bloom]

surely less often than every 10 seconds

[real sierra]

the supercomputer telling me im doomed and all my screeps should die

[rough bloom]

I have a feeling that this may not be entirely in the spirit of the game
would be fun though, seems very possible

[trim valve]

[tender river]

i think with clever scheduling you can do incremental updates, only processing some of your rooms each tick

[real sierra]

^

i was going to use a similar concept to prioritize processing rooms with enemies present

to ensure i dont get rolled by cpu limit

[trim valve]

if you're able to simulate it on the server you would theoretically only need to send stuff to the backend if you see an enemy

I assume screeps doesn't have any randomness in it?

[real sierra]

correct

its painfully deterministic: https://docs.screeps.com/simultaneous-actions.html

[trim valve]

hm

I feel like you could do some absolutely devious future planning setup

(not that I'm smart enough to know how to even approach this)

[real sierra]

if you had the cpu cycles, you count perfectly plan your future play im sure

[trim valve]

I was more meaning with the cursed external server idea

[rough bloom]

LLM time

[trim valve]

[tender river]

truly the perfect planning machine

[trim valve]

export game state into chatgpt, have it generate new "adapted" screeps code

[real sierra]

good to know ill never need to play against any of you

these all sound like "projects"

[rough bloom]

yeah, either that or console commands containing the plan for the next 10 seconds

[trim valve]

[real sierra]

"time to play screeps" >writes a cluster scheduler and never touches the screeps api

"time to play screeps" >writes a self modifying code library with efficient memory code (de)compression (and never touches the screeps api)

[trim valve]

"time to play screeps" >simulates entire game to an end point locally before making a single move

[rough bloom]

sadly I don't think the screeps server supports rollbacks like that

[tender river]

locally

[rough bloom]

yeah, I know

but you still need to simulate the world if you want to search for an optimal solution

[tender river]

i wonder how easily you could RL screeps

[trim valve]

anything but playing screeps as intended

[rough bloom]

so unless you want to reimplement Screeps you're stuck with the official implementation

[tender river]

programming

[trim valve]

I wonder how hard a reimplementation would be

[olive sable]

Hi guys

[rough bloom]

imagine not attempting to automate yourself out of the task at any possible opportunity

[runic ginkgo]

@coral sigil I am you

☕

[olive sable]

[runic ginkgo]

Hello

[olive sable]

You dont look like shadow

[runic ginkgo]

I am daylight

[real sierra]

https://github.com/ScreepsMods/screepsmod-admin-utils

[runic ginkgo]

:)

shadis can never escape my indian/russian/american accent nights

[trim valve]

ok so we could just store the full game state on every tick for rollbacks

[rough bloom]

yeah, doing it for just the map and game objects is probably possible
I'm more concerned about V8 and the database

I guess you could just snapshot the whole process and filesystem

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

youd have to look at more mods

i doubt we're the first to have this idea

wouldn't be surprised if there was existing code for it

[olive sable]

I will micro-optemize every single screep

It is in my blood as a game-dev

[real sierra]

idk sam

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

i tried to microoptimize mine by writing a cache wrapper

[tender river]

its in my blood to give orders to shiro to implement this or that thing and not play the game myself

[real sierra]

im still not sure if its faster or slower than without

[real sierra]

i only implement third party code that i commissioned

[olive sable]

You try to optemize the code by caching, i optemize the code by changing to a diffre´t language. We are not the same

[real sierra]

its all wasm in the end

you cannot escape fate

[rough bloom]

we're definitely not the first to have the idea, but I doubt that a mod for this exists, just because it's really difficult
the server kinda just has to be built for fast backtracking through time, and the Screeps server is not
but maybe it's more easily fixable than I think it is, idk

[olive sable]

If it counts cpu as compute, i will use gpu for free

The server will have a 3060ti

[real sierra]

screeps on the gpu

parallelize over creeps

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

I think that would count as a slightly unfair advantage

[real sierra]

reminds me of some cursed features of this game

[olive sable]

Even if the code doesnt support it, the server code is opensourve no?

[rough bloom]

RL could be possible because it only uses past experiences without backtracking
increasing the simulation speed works
but you'd need to have it generate a JavaScript policy, dunno how that would work

[real sierra]

oddly specific feature to drag other creeps

[olive sable]

I will make it available to everyone if i do it lmao

[trim valve]

honestly I might just try and do this in a significantly reduced version of screeps at some point, it sounds like a fun idea

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

"time to play screeps" >modifies the server source to support gpu calls (never touches the screeps api)

[olive sable]

The big if is idk if its even possible and how ill do it

[trim valve]

(by "this" I mean trying to explore massively into the future w/ backtracking, etc.)

[olive sable]

Self modifying code using a local llm running on my tensor cores

[rough bloom]

it's possible
it's also both risky (GPU code is not sandboxed very well) and probably unnecessary

[trim valve]

transpile the js to sandboxed native gpu assembly

[olive sable]

4864 CUDA cores/ number of players

[real sierra]

you guys have fun with that

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

can you see the code of other people's screeps?

I assume not

[real sierra]

ill go conquer the official server in the meantime

[real sierra]

nope

[olive sable]

The host probably can if they tried

[rough bloom]

AFAIK you can see the screeps but not their memory or code

[trim valve]

yeah in that case you'd probably have to make quite a lot of assumptions about how the other screeps are gonna behave

screepsfish

[real sierra]

sam's daemon pushing all my screeps code to a private git repo at the stroke of midnight:

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

keep a local model for enemy creep behavior based on past observations

[olive sable]

The running it on gpu stuff is funny idea but i probably wont go through with it

I have stuff to do

[trim valve]

this would be so insanely funny

[real sierra]

[olive sable]

Need to make my vulkan backend for vedal drunk driving simulator

[trim valve]

but also I feel like there would be a problem where you have compounding uncertainty

[rough bloom]

running the actual creep JS code on GPU just will not happen
have fun porting V8 to CUDA

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

surely wasm can port to cuda

[olive sable]

Surely

[rough bloom]

that can probably be done, but then it's not parallel, you just have one wasm program

[olive sable]

But ye, probably gonna keep server shit on cuda.
If i do gpu shit for the lolz it will just be giving screeps api call acces

Imagine porting doom to a screep

[trim valve]

rewrite the server in rust, port to gpu using rust-gpu

[rough bloom]

definitely
thankfully you only need to simulate like 10 or 20 ticks ahead, easy

[real sierra]

you can write arbitrary html to the screeps console, if that gives you any ideas

[rough bloom]

not doom, but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1PFufkUfUU

[trim valve]

yeah for battles you only need to be a little bit ahead tbh

[real sierra]

e.g.
https://gyazo.com/ca2fd8dea920fc311c89ecf9b56b170c.gif

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

I guess that kinda means you'd want seperate modules for long term planning and then short term stuff

this is just looping back to my idea of trying to optimize a factorio factory

[rough bloom]

I just realized
Screeps can probably be an LLM benchmark

[trim valve]

[rough bloom]

Give multiple models API access, let them fight it out

[ruby timber]

Oh wow that's a concept for sure

[trim valve]

I feel like they'd have a lot of troube understanding any of the game state

so it would be a lot of just kinda writing code and hoping it works

[rough bloom]

yeah, but if they all suck at it then it balances out

[trim valve]

llms screeps where they never manage to get anywhere

[real sierra]

that just sounds like normal screeps

[real sierra]

this seems like a fun paper to write honestly

[sage crag]

was 4am

[trim valve]

time to go back on the research grind to figure out how stockfish works

[real sierra]

losing faith that I'll ever have fellow screeps players

[trim valve]

[tender river]

its fine just wanted to make sure you remembered after waking up

[trim valve]

I told you I didn't know if I'd play or not, just that the game looks neat smh my head

[real sierra]

all potential candidates have already veered into high difficulty tangential projects and immediately burnt themselves out before writing a single line of code

🥀

[tender river]

shirooooo your input will be fully anonymous and not sold to data brokers go vote in the poll

[rough bloom]

getting a private server going was a bit easier than expected at least, Node v12 worked
setting up tooling for actually writing any code is still pending though

[real sierra]

applied category theory, I wanna see how it manifests in your set of go-to data structures while programming

[tender river]

it's already over i use lattices

also konii complained about my monadic json parser but like thats the only bearable way of writing that kind of code do you want me to just manually thread state everywhere

[trim valve]

smh why is there no cargo new --workspace

[rough bloom]

there isn't?
wtf Cargo

[olive sable]

When im home shiro. Just give me 10 days

[real sierra]

I have 10 days to program killing other players

[tender river]

do not kill me

[olive sable]

Food

[real sierra]

other players' colonies*

[rough bloom]

they've been contemplating how to implement it for the past 7 years
https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/8365#issuecomment-1567677063

[olive sable]

Lmao i selected a 2nd picture by accident.
Enjoy my shoulder guys

[real sierra]

that would be crazy actually

[trim valve]

literally just make a Cargo.toml with ```
[workspace]
members = []
resolver = "3"

in a folder that matches the arg how hard is it

[real sierra]

if your screeps grabbed the username of the owner of an enemy room and checked for its presence in leak datasets, then blackmailed them with leaking their passwords if they don't delete their units

[tender river]

so human parity

[olive sable]

Join screeps server
Steal ip adress
Leave screeps server
Dox owner

[trim valve]

does screeps have 2fa

[real sierra]

log in as the other player

[rough bloom]

no, but it could have if someone bothered to implement it
it does use Steam login by default which has 2FA

[olive sable]

Bruh you dont have to use screeps to get my name

Its on full display

[rare bridge]

so we want a server for this game right?

[olive sable]

Ye

[real sierra]

CLOUDY MY HERO

[olive sable]

Im already planning on making one

[real sierra]

I LOVE YOU

[rare bridge]

lemme see if there's one for pterodactyl

[tender river]

my name is on "full" display in the nixpkgs maintainers list

[rough bloom]

same
I technically already have one up but it's not ready for players

[olive sable]

You can host one instead if you want lol

[rare bridge]

there is not, would have to make our own

i'll look into docs tomorrow since i'll have a lot of free time then

[real sierra]

thanku

[trim valve]

pterodactl eggs are just wrappers around docker images right?

[olive sable]

Image the server is just full of mods, then me and shuni

[rare bridge]

[real sierra]

they also make a great meal

[rare bridge]

just be aware it's not my highest of priorities currently, i've got a few other projects which have higher priorities, but i can look into it

[olive sable]

Im still in montenegro so i cant rn either

[rare bridge]

i will look into it tomorrow tho, i can guarentee that

[real sierra]

cloudburst gonna see my code commit and immediately shut down the server

[olive sable]

The screeps server is 100% safe, surely

[real sierra]

"This code is ass. Session terminated."

[trim valve]

cpu share based on code quality

the higher quality the code the more cpu you get per tick

[real sierra]

holy

[olive sable]

"Bro sam, why are you trying to acces the gpu???"

[rough bloom]

surely there are no vulnerabilities in the ancient versions of Nodejs and all the packages they use

[real sierra]

linter score as CPU allocation

brother I'm writing my code with a quill and ink pen

we can afford no undocumented functions, no improper spacing

all imports must be in alphabetical order

[olive sable]

I will find a vulnerability, not because i want to steal data, only to use the gpu.
My goals are beyond your understanding

https://tenor.com/view/my-goals-are-beyond-your-understanding-reverse-flash-eobard-thawne-the-flash-gif-16637212

[rare bridge]

what gpu

[olive sable]

Your server doesnt have a gpu?

Not even a small one?

[rare bridge]

no, the server i'm planning to put you on is a server i have spare rn

[trim valve]

plan foiled

[rare bridge]

it has no gpu

[real sierra]

I mean

[olive sable]

Fuckkkk

[real sierra]

you can embed HTML forms in the console

and presumably give those a JavaScript callback

[rare bridge]

only 8gb ram, limited storage, and like 4 cores

[rough bloom]

GPU: ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphicsy
Graphicsy

[real sierra]

there's a vector there surely

[rare bridge]

i could give you more but i'm not putting you on my local network no matter how much you beg

[olive sable]

I will html skidadle my way into my own server's gpu

[rare bridge]

you get the cloud vm and you will be happy with it

(also it hosts velocity pls don't completely nuke it)

[real sierra]

I am happy with it

[olive sable]

Its fine....

[real sierra]

you can always just get a wasm virtual machine

and virtualize a gpu

[olive sable]

Fuck it, im making a gpu out of screeps

[real sierra]

[trim valve]

host it on my pc while I'm away, give sam gpu access

[olive sable]

This will not lag the server at all

[trim valve]

idk what you'd even use the gpu for tbh

[olive sable]

That comes later

[real sierra]

yeahhh

not much can parallelize

maybe pathfinding?

...maybe?

[rare bridge]

if you overwhelm the machine i'll just impose limits on the docker container

[olive sable]

Oh

Sadge

[real sierra]

worry not cloud

users have cpu exec time limits

[trim valve]

i mean sam you have have the screeps ingame cpu usage limit

[real sierra]

should be fine

[olive sable]

Tbh, its not cuz i need a gpu to do anything, its just cuz i want to see if i can

[rare bridge]

as much as it'd be funny, this machine does have other responsibilities

dw, i'm looking at getting a dedi at some point, you might get your gpu after all

[olive sable]

There is absolutly no reason i need more than 6k fps, and yet im still switching to vulkan. Just because i want to see if i can hit 10k

Nothing i do has a goal, its all just to see if i can

[rare bridge]

[rough bloom]

a dedi with a proper GPU?
expensive

[olive sable]

Its about the journey

[real sierra]

can you get on screeps in sooner than 10 days

[olive sable]

I can download and play on my laptop possebly, but my server pc is at home

[rare bridge]

i mean the server i'm planning to put these 2 on is an OVH server that i'm locked into for like 10 more months (much to my annoyance), i do wanna move to a dedi at some point

[rough bloom]

a dedi is nice, yeah, very cheap for the amount of compute you get
just uncommon to have any with a GPU, especially for a reasonable price

[olive sable]

(What is a dedi)???

[real sierra]

dedicated server

[rough bloom]

GPU compute is usually either very short-term rental or long-term bulk purchase of capacity

[real sierra]

a physical machine I think

[olive sable]

So just a pc with extra steps?

[real sierra]

a PC without the extra steps

[olive sable]

But its in a rack

[trim valve]

you usually get some amount of recovery alongside it

[real sierra]

but the software is bare bones

[trim valve]

so like you can remote in and wipe it, image it, etc.

[rare bridge]

basically

[real sierra]

I also doubt cloud has a rack

[rare bridge]

i rent bare metal hardware in a datacentre

[olive sable]

Ah i see.
Im thinking hardware side you get extra psu and shit.
Software side is ondeed less

[rare bridge]

i do have people on hand who do have a rack actually, it wouldnt be too hard for me to spin up servers

[real sierra]

cloud knows a guy

[rare bridge]

but i also don't really... want to use their hardware for more than i already do

[rough bloom]

it's a PC but remote + you don't have to worry about the hardware, it's provided by the DC and rented by you

[olive sable]

I was planning on just using my old pc xith 5700g, 64gb ram and 3060ti

[rare bridge]

it's different from a cloud vm since it's not a virtual machine, it's actual proper hardware

i wanna get one because it works out cheaper to rent than it does the ovh server

[olive sable]

How ram hungrey is screeps btw?
The server i mean?

[rare bridge]

i'm paying ovh for a tiny 8gb 4vcore server that costs me like £30ish per month when i could easily get a dedi which has a ryzen 5 3600, 64gb RAM and like 1tb of storage for the same amount from Hetzner

[real sierra]

at least 2MB per player

the game world itself is probably a few MB or GB

[olive sable]

Bruh thats nothing

[real sierra]

the official server has >1000 players

2MB is probably a gross underestimate too

[olive sable]

You can host if you want. But i would just be paying electricity and nothing else

[opaque sigil]

Hetzner my beloved

[rare bridge]

i'm locked in for another 10 months, i'd be paying regardless

[real sierra]

I thought the hetzner was a tank

[rare bridge]

it's also a cloud host

and a pretty cheap one at that

https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/

look at these dedis

[real sierra]

you're the only cloud I need

[rough bloom]

not very much, but it's also has just my 2 creeps as the load right now
in reality you should probably allocate at least a few GBs

[olive sable]

Are shiro and cloud like dating or what is happening here?

Is this normal?

[real sierra]

no I'm trying to move screeps up the priority list

[olive sable]

Ah

Lmao

[rare bridge]

[real sierra]

[rough bloom]

their server auction is awesome, you can get pretty good deals there sometimes

[rare bridge]

shiro as hard as you may try, getting home may be a higher priority

[real sierra]

vacations are nice once in a while

how many chances do you really get to see the world

[olive sable]

Ye

I go every year

Vacations are fun

[rare bridge]

exactly

[olive sable]

I slept on the sofa under a towel tonight

[real sierra]

what

are you okay

[desert wave]

geoguessr is available 24/7

[rare bridge]

uk?

[olive sable]

Classic montenegro

[real sierra]

that sounds like pre divorce shenanigans

[rare bridge]

my holiday ends today, i gotta travel tomorrow, which gives me time to look at documentation

[olive sable]

It is weird to not be able to drink here.

Drinking age is 18 in montenegro

[real sierra]

or it would be, if they didn't move to a paid service...

[ruby timber]

so much green icons in my programming channel

Welcome

[real sierra]

oo I can't see the leaves on mobile

[olive sable]

We have kidnapped the mods from NN

[real sierra]

welcome to neuro Sama headquarters!

have you heard of screeps

[ruby timber]

It's cute you think I was talking about newcomers, I actually meant you mods

[olive sable]

Aight bye

[real sierra]

the new joiner leaf

[rare bridge]

shiro they're referring to the mod icons

[real sierra]

OH

[ruby timber]

You got it

[real sierra]

so cloud

if you're hosting the server you will of course play right

[rare bridge]

depends

gotta stress test somehow

[ruby timber]

[real sierra]

the game is asynchronous so you play whenever you want after all

very low commitment

just writing a bit of code here and there

[ruby timber]

Very low commitment when "I just woke up, gotta check on my screeps"

[rare bridge]

ok so how does it work

[olive sable]

Screeps go brrr

[ruby timber]

Didn't you leave

[real sierra]

it's an RTS but the catch is that you control your units by writing code

[trim valve]

om cloud there's a fair chance you're running the same server type as the offical screeps servers

[olive sable]

I kinda did

[real sierra]

the game runs 24/7 with your code executing once per game tick

[olive sable]

Im walking and waiting for the wifi from the restaurant to drop

[real sierra]

so as the player you're tasked with writing an AI to produce units, move them and interact with the world, etc.

[rare bridge]

damn they use ovh? so expensive

[real sierra]

there's many deeper late game features too

[rare bridge]

either way probably, just that i'm on a vm

[olive sable]

Aight bye fr now

[trim valve]

i mean they're using just quad core systems

so I think they probably are too

[rough bloom]

40 small servers??? Nodejs scaling I guess

[real sierra]

cloud where's your 160 cpus

[trim valve]

their architecture is weird

if I had to guess its to keep scripts working because in a theoretical worst case scenario every player could use up 500ms of compute per tick

[olive sable]

I got pranked.
The place we're visiting is right next to the restaurant.
I still have wifi

[real sierra]

oh frick

[olive sable]

Have a picture

[tender river]

i stopped being lazy https://git.ablecorp.eu/lily-org/lily/pulls/1

hblsp now targets lily 0.2.0

[real sierra]

I'm on the wrong bus

I only just realized

[tender river]

just reprogram it with js

[rough bloom]

too distracted by #programming

[olive sable]

[rare bridge]

working on it

[real sierra]

this bus still takes me where I'm going just slower

[olive sable]

where did you go?

[real sierra]

I have to say farewell to you all shortly

but I wanna screep

my screepies...

[tender river]

bye shiro you will be missed

[real sierra]

tell me screeps I love them...

except the logistics screeps

they eat way too much cpu

lazy buggers

[rare bridge]

cpu

[noble zodiac]

just buy more cpus

[rigid snow]

why not buy local sim

[noble zodiac]

my server has 2 whole vcores and 8gb ram but hey, its 5 euros

[rare bridge]

i'm paying £25 for 2 more vcores than you 😭

[noble zodiac]

thats just robbery

4 cores, 8gb ram and 256gb ssd is 6,84€ per month at my hoster

[trim valve]

I paid lots for my server

[sage crag]

wahoo

merged

[olive sable]

I aint paying 25 bucks for a sim if im only staying in this country for 3 days

Or well, slightly more than 3 days

Like 7 dayd

[tender river]

i checked and i need 7mb of stack for it to compile, at 6 it crashes

apparently you can increase stack size on linux clearly i should do that

[sage crag]

rip

[near sundial]

Kindof a hot take

But I think C is better than C++

[olive sable]

[near sundial]

Also hi

[olive sable]

Hi

[tender river]

not really a hot take

[near sundial]

Slothy is doing fine

[noble zodiac]

a couple more takes as cold as that and I would stop sweating