programming

[dusky jackal]

That sounds hot af

[opaque wharf]

Well, that's the equator for you

[dusky jackal]

That’s fair

[rigid snow]

30 celsius isn’t that hot tho

very manageable

in high humidity maybe less so

[opaque wharf]

But the humidity

[dusky jackal]

If it’s dry maybe

I don’t really like anything above 80 degrees

[rigid snow]

idk i’ve been many times to hot places near sea, it’s fiiine

[dusky jackal]

I prefer the cold tbh

[opaque wharf]

I should add that at night the lowest the temp goes is 26C (so around 75F?). And humidity is always above 75%

[dusky jackal]

It’s 6:27 am I’m gonna sleep lol

Then wake up in a bit for Neuro’s stream

[opaque wharf]

Neuro stream is always 1 day off for me. And in 1 in the morning

[trim tangle]

same

[opaque wharf]

Fellow GMT+7

Or UTC

[patent walrus]

this is really funny to me for some reason

[opaque wharf]

I bet AI generated the first message

[tiny mango]

why was programming talking about nature

[opaque wharf]

Also, dear windows insider. Bruh, they don't address you as a user

They greet the OS

[tiny mango]

does disc scrub metadata from photos by itself?

[opaque wharf]

EXIF? Yeah

But not all

But for data such as location and such is removed

Color range and other useful things to know, no

[tiny mango]

Oh nice! Sort of expected

privacy is like. a bit tenant for disc(?)

that's the wrong word

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, should be a standard procedure for a site that is not meant to host data

[tiny mango]

tenet**

[real sierra]

it's not, these are rasterized diagonals

so it's just a discrete sequence of tiles, each offset by one step along either axis

you can cross two of these without any tiles being shared

[bright scaffold]

i have the p106-100 (gpu) and patched driver from 1060 6gb... All work is good... but i have locked fps to 40 and idk why

[real sierra]

❤️
❤️
❤️
❤️

like that

[bright scaffold]

Help me someone

please

[real sierra]

locked fps to 40?

system wide?

or one particular game

[bright scaffold]

idk, i tried 2 versions of driver

[real sierra]

what's your monitor refresh rate

[bright scaffold]

And it everywhere

FurMark and any game

[real sierra]

what's your monitor refresh rate

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[bright scaffold]

75

[real sierra]

that's what it's actually set to in display settings right? not just the specs for the monitor

[opaque wharf]

Did it matter for furmark tho?

[bright scaffold]

yes

[real sierra]

it might?

I'm not familiar with furmark

[opaque wharf]

Didn't they report the full capabilities of the hardware regardless of display setting? It is a benchmarking program after all

[bright scaffold]

I have the same fps at 900p and 4k resolution in the FurMark (40fps)

[real sierra]

yeah it would be odd for a benchmarking software to be vsynced

[opaque wharf]

Now that is truly something else. I'm not familiar with the gpu model so I can't help

[bright scaffold]

Its the latest version of benchmark and i disabled vsyns

[tiny mango]

yay shiro day

[real sierra]

how much dedicated memory do you have on your gpu

[real sierra]

what do you even do to celebrate this holiday

ironically it happens to be Canada Day here so people are actually launching fireworks and stuff

[tiny mango]

well surely a different thing each one

o canada

[bright scaffold]

I think 6gb because its the mining version of 1060 6Gb

[tiny mango]

I guess maple syrup popsicles today, seems appropriate

[bright scaffold]

I tested this gpu in the Minecraft

I have stable 40 fps with shaders

And without too

[real sierra]

it's just 40fps system wide

that's so strange

[bright scaffold]

yea...

[real sierra]

do you have another program that's enforcing vsync or something

like a setting in Nvidia control panel

that would be my next place to look

it's weird that it's very stable at 40fps

Cpt Rankz

[trim tangle]

it's just really interesting case

I have similar gpu

[bright scaffold]

40 fps only with gpu

[trim tangle]

cmp 40hx without video outputs

[bright scaffold]

With igpu i have the usual 75 max

[trim tangle]

whisper mode might cap fps to keep fans silent

in nvidia app

[bright scaffold]

I only have Nvidia control panel

Nvidia app not working

[trim tangle]

do you use dartraiden's patcher for drivers?

[bright scaffold]

yea

I tried 576.80 and 576.66

And i tried to play the Peak and Minecraft (and FurMark), everywhere 40 fps

[trim tangle]

what about gpu utilization/tdp values?

[bright scaffold]

Where can i see it?

[trim tangle]

you can test it in furmark

or open any game and open performance tab in task manager

[bright scaffold]

Another interesting thing

If I set the resolution lower the fps increases

[opaque wharf]

That's normal and what is supposed to happen

[bright scaffold]

But if I increase it, it gets stuck at 40

[opaque wharf]

Oh wait, you mean the windows resolution?

[bright scaffold]

i want to say 40

[bright scaffold]

Any resolution, in game or in furmark

[trim tangle]

all I can think rn is a tdp lock by drivers or bios

to limit fans speed or smth

if gpu never hits 100% load it might be the answer

[bright scaffold]

I think the situation is another

It gets 100% at ~60w

[olive sable]

I am

[trim tangle]

hmm cpu bottleneck then?

max tdp for 100-106 is 120w

although that would be strange to experience cpu bottleneck system wide...

[bright scaffold]

idk

I can get more than 40 fps with resolution like 800x600

oh...

Just with lower resolution

[opaque wharf]

You are?

You are WHAT?

I NEED ANSWERS

[olive sable]

Wifi bad

Didnt save the response

[opaque wharf]

Oh you're enjoying the vacation

[bright scaffold]

I can try CS2 rn

I had ~40-60 fps at lowest settings with igpu

[trim tangle]

are you sure this is a cap? it never goes even for a 41 fps with 100-106?

[bright scaffold]

Sometimes it reaches

[half crescent]

Yo guys i get scammed or nah , because i cant check right now in samsung magican dont have other parts on hands

Im aware about ,, Made in Vietnam "

[trim tangle]

just a performance issue then, it's normal for 100-106 to reach only 40 - 45 fps in furmark

[olive sable]

I am

[bright scaffold]

But i have the same fps with fhd and 4k, then should i get more fps with fhd?

[trim tangle]

fair enough

consider opening issue on dartraiden's github if you won't figure this out by the end of the day

[bright scaffold]

And also i dont should have 40 fps in the Minecraft without shaders because i have 160+ with igpu

[rough bloom]

the Screeps server requires Nodejs v12, GCC 9 and Python 2
time to go import Nixpkgs 22.05 I guess

[olive sable]

Brother who built a rollercoaster 1350m high?

This is the top of a fucking mountain

[sage crag]

alpine

[rough bloom]

doesn't seem very profitable but I'm sure the view would be awesome

[olive sable]

A coke is €5

Its profitable enough imo

[rough bloom]

idk building a rollercoaster seems expensive, especially on top of a mountain
you'd have to sell a lot of 5€ coke for that

anyway, good job random rich person/company, mountain rollercoaster looks cool

[olive sable]

There are enough tourists here

[opaque wharf]

Just use arch bro

[bright scaffold]

i have ~50fps in the CS2 on low settings with 800p

[rough bloom]

more like just use Debian, they love ancient packages
but I don't want to

[real sierra]

time to see how my screeps are doing

[bright scaffold]

What can i do to fix it

[opaque wharf]

You have successfully pull Shuni

[olive sable]

We came with a car, but most just came via cable car

[sage crag]

shr what is a screep

[real sierra]

scripted creep

screeps is RTS MMO

where every player writes an AI that controls their faction

and they run 24/7

[trim tangle]

as I said if you're sure that you should get more fps with your rig, then open issue on github because this might be a driver issue

[ruby timber]

I looked at it when I was a dumb child (17)

I kinda want to look at screeps again now

[real sierra]

ive been trying to talk people here into playing it

i think theres enough of us interested that we could spin up a private screeps server for neurocord members

[bright scaffold]

Also i have another question about it

[opaque wharf]

I'm stealing the Evil's Holy Army idea

[real sierra]

[bright scaffold]

I dont have 6pin and use 2 molex to 6pin cable

[real sierra]

i probably need to make my code more efficient somehow

its using 3-4 cpu/tick as a base load

[olive sable]

just dont make it sub only i beg

[real sierra]

i wouldnt

i also wouldnt host it prob

i dont have a server pc

[olive sable]

I can host

Probably

[rough bloom]

the Screeps server requires Nodejs v12, GCC 9 and Python 2
time to go import Nixpkgs 22.05 I guess
dependency nightmare

[bright scaffold]

I have PS with 4 molex at 2 cables

[olive sable]

I have spare pc with a 5700g, 64gb ram and a 3060ti

[trim tangle]

they're not the same if you're asking about that, they might cap your tdp

[bright scaffold]

Should i use 2 molex to 6pin at one cable or on 2 cables

[real sierra]

holy

polyglot codebase

[olive sable]

Should be fine right?

[tiny mango]

tucking this one in the brainfolds for later

[olive sable]

I doubt it uses more than 8 cores?? Hopefully

[real sierra]

more than enough

i can run a local server just on my normal pc

CPU is in units of milliseconds of compute time i believe

[olive sable]

Ah

Ok

[real sierra]

so here, i mean my code is running in 3-4ms per game tick

[rough bloom]

mostly because they depend on V8 for running the server-side JS for the screeps
and they just... never updated that dependency

[olive sable]

Overclock the server

[opaque wharf]

Nope. Just for build stuff (node-gyp)

[real sierra]

[opaque wharf]

I wonder if I could port the server

[rough bloom]

to modern Nodejs you mean?

[olive sable]

In theory, if you localhost, you could increase the compute budget???

Idk

I dont do that

I mean screeps

[rough bloom]

AFAIK if you run a private server then you can do whatever you want with the compute budget, yeah

[real sierra]

i think so

[bright scaffold]

I have 2 these cables from PS

[real sierra]

theres still a max but its far higher than the official server

its like 100CPU instead of 20

[olive sable]

Overclock time

When im home

[trim tangle]

any molex won't provide enough power supply, they're just not the same as dedicated 6 pin

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but their pathfinding repo is nowhere to be found

[olive sable]

Make it run on gpu

[bright scaffold]

But is it better to use my 2 molex for one such part, or one molex for each such part?

[olive sable]

I do wonder, if the screeps are designed to use limited resources, they could be small enough to run on gpu???
Especialy with a lot of screeps using the same script

[trim tangle]

can't really say anything about that idk

[rough bloom]

oh yeah, it vanished
looks like you might have to get it from npm (or find a fork, I guess)

they link this repo from npm but I'm not sure if it's accurate, they might just have made changes without updating the metadata
https://github.com/qiao/PathFinding.js

[real sierra]

i forgot how complicated this is

[opaque wharf]

https://github.com/jciskey/screeps-pathfinding

[tender river]

HHhH

[real sierra]

[rough bloom]

that doesn't even have JS code though
their version on npm seems very different

[olive sable]

Superboxes 3090 has been sent

[nocturne olive]

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I was wondering the same. I think they are trying to rewrite it

Because pathfinding in JS is... suboptimal to say the least

[olive sable]

Mods feel free to ignore the fact im dealing 3090's over the border

[opaque wharf]

Also, you may want to look at this one Shiro
https://github.com/bencbartlett/Overmind

[real sierra]

i dont want to look at someone else's ai and copy it

writing your AI is literally the entire gameplay

[rough bloom]

same, finished scripts obviously exist but I don't want to taint my experience with the game
-# at least not yet

[real sierra]

i mean its doubtful i would understand or agree with half the paradigms anyway

its probably turbo optimized and leaning on tons of community libraries for common functions

but i wanna invent this stuff myself

i love solving all the problems

like the fact that my wall algorithm put the walls around this tiny patch of land instead of all my structures

[ruby timber]

I feel like that's the whole appeal too

Lile just reinvent the wheel to end up with an organized system sounds cool to me

[rough bloom]

I'm considering using Clojure for it, apparently it has a transpiler targeting JS
partially because of masochism, but also because I don't want to write JS

[opaque wharf]

You could always clown on someone else's code tho. And it's fun

[opaque sigil]

scala.js

[opaque wharf]

Case in point
https://github.com/samvanmaele/game-engine-cpp/pull/2

[opaque sigil]

There's also gleam

Could be fun

[rough bloom]

oh right, that does compile to JS too

[real sierra]

not a chance i can clown on someone else's screeps code

i dont even have to see it to know mine is worse

[opaque sigil]

We need notjs

[opaque wharf]

I have decided that the journey of porting the screeps server codebase is cursed to hell and back

[olive sable]

Ill just try to make it work and never touch it again

[rough bloom]

yeah, messing with the V8 sandbox does not seem like good idea
most you could do is try to update isolated-vm, that's been the largest pain point I've seen so far

[opaque wharf]

Man, if only the V8 isolate standard exists back then, the server wouldn't be this cursed at least

[rare bramble]

looked at screeps and played through the tutorial, it's pretty cool though I dont like js

[rough bloom]

I have found the default CPU limit, it can be patched
https://github.com/screeps/backend-local/blob/master/lib/game/api/auth.js#L47

[real sierra]

i dont think having a CPU limit is a bad thing

and 100 CPU is already an incredibly high limit

especially with the bucket feature

[opaque wharf]

Isolating JS code is easier since browser has to do that

Imagine trying to isolate python for example

[rough bloom]

yeah, it should be fine
I just wanted to confirm that it is adjustable

[distant blaze]

@real sierra I've been theming my neovim

manually

[real sierra]

neovim user

[distant blaze]

huh? yeahe ofc

I love neovim

I can't use an IDE like a normal person

I hate IDEs with a passion

[dry charm]

I want to move to neovim soo bad but I cannot start the config process

did you start from 0, or did you use a jumpstart?

[distant blaze]

huh? I'm not weak

• I hate using premade configs

they contain things I don't want

and its more of a pain to go through it removing what I don't want

vs what I do want

because its made in a certain way where things will just straight up break if you remove something that something else was dependent on

[dry charm]

I see

[distant blaze]

if you really wanna start

I'd recommend first configuring the basic vim defaullts

https://www.shortcutfoo.com/blog/top-50-vim-configuration-options

@dry charm

here

this is how you start

[dry charm]

The problem is I'm on nix so I'm using a completly different approach

[distant blaze]

well it doesn't really matter because you still have to call the same options regardless

I've heard good things about nvf though

I'm on Artix with S6

[spark hull]

if(a)
{
b();
}

[real sierra]

[distant blaze]

but yeah, you really should just

start using it

and thinking about what you'd like to have

or what you're missing

start with some basic options

like these

[noble zodiac]

the longer Ive been using vim the shorter my config got

[distant blaze]

you can use nix to manage the plugins

or you could do the way everyone else does it by using plug or lazy

[noble zodiac]

tho Ive been playing around with Helix recently

[distant blaze]

I don't like lazy.nvim because I find it to be an utter hostile pain in the ass

and the gui is ass a pain to navigate and deal with and dealing with issue that arise in it is also a pain, its meant to be user friendly, but it feels like its user unfriendly to me

so I just use plug

I've heard of my friend using helix

no idea whether its good

but all I hear is them complaining about it

and yes I made the theme myself

[rare bramble]

error[E0425]: cannot find value a in this scope
--> src\main.rs:2:9
|
2 | if (a) {
| ^ not found in this scope

warning: unnecessary parentheses around if condition
--> src\main.rs:2:8
|
2 | if (a) {
| ^ ^
|
= note: #[warn(unused_parens)] on by default
help: remove these parentheses
|
2 - if (a) {
2 + if a {
|

error[E0425]: cannot find function b in this scope
--> src\main.rs:3:9
|
3 | b();
| ^ not found in this scope

For more information about this error, try rustc --explain E0425.

[distant blaze]

why are you making the compiler cry

what did it ever do to you

[noble zodiac]

I have no problem with helix but I also have only changed 3 whole settings

[bright scaffold]

@trim tangle I experimented and I have 2 news: I was able to install Nvidia App, and this strange fps limit depends on the resolution (very strange)

[distant blaze]

she is someone who does extreme power user things inside of it

[hoary lion]

gm #programming

today im going to fight with another diffusion

[real sierra]

gm!

had to make an unexpected change to my screeps ai

a problem i had kinda worried about but just hoped wouldnt be a problem

too many of my units crowding in important areas while idle

ive resolved this for now by detecting idle units and having them get off the roads if nothing else

as long as all my buildings are connected by roads, that should ensure at least one access point to every vital structure

[scarlet arch]

I have no integrated GPU but I must see...

I love doing cursed shit

Also ignore Deme

[rough bloom]

tiny graphics card

[scarlet arch]

GT730, bought specifically for this purpose

[rough bloom]

oh, it's "only" from 2014, so it can even do DirectX 12
seems like no Vulkan though

[rare bramble]

is there a reason you wouldnt just get a CPU with the most basic integrate graphics?

[scarlet arch]

I already had the CPU.

[rare bramble]

ye, then it makes more sense

[rough bloom]

PCIe risers are always so janky
OCuLink is nice if you don't need the full x16 bandwidth and the cable is much, much nicer to work with

[scarlet arch]

I am just using it cause the GPU is full size and I don't care. It's actually for a later built where I have a 16x PCI to M.2 card in my NAS for NVME raid

Also proxmox takes ages to boot, wtf

It's stuck

Welp

nomodeset. Apparently the GPU is too old?

Works now

[real sierra]

i was thinking about this silly problem i have

where i want to create a creep from a set of ideal proportions and a budget

but after more consideration im pretty sure this becomes a linear programming problem

approximate solution it is

[hoary lion]

hmmmm

adaLN is making me uncomfortable

see this part is easy to implement but

this part is going to mess up the design if not done correctly

wait am i tweaking or

every single implementation ignores alpha

[olive sable]

All my homies hate alpha

[real sierra]

🐺 alpha

[hoary lion]

am confused at this point

oh isee

uhh

[real sierra]

[hoary lion]

it returns tuple

probably reused later

alpha is alive... right?

[real sierra]

why isnt my code working

javascript experts

    
    getScaledBody: function(proportions, budget) {
        const unitCost = Object.keys(constants.PART_COSTS).map((partType) => constants.PART_COSTS[partType] * proportions[partType]).reduce((sum, cost) => sum + cost, 0);
        const multiplier = budget / unitCost;
        return Object.keys(proportions).map((pType) => Array(Math.floor(proportions[pType] * multiplier)).fill(pType)).flat();
    },

intended to be used something like getScaledBody({work: 0.33, carry: 0.33, move: 0.33}, 200);

but it's failing with RangeError: Invalid array length

oh wait i see

its undefined length sometimes

nvm

actually that didnt fix it nvm

[hoary lion]

all our homies hate js

[scarlet arch]

Proxmox setup

[real sierra]

i see what you guys were saying about screeps' ancient node version

neither flatMap or flat are in this version of js it seems

need my own implementation

:D works

.

my world just changed forever

i just learned the screeps console accepts html markdown

wait

this is kinda crazy

you can just add any html element into the console

i could even put some buttons down there if i wanted

DIY UI

[real sierra]

no shot

[sage crag]

shiro in the terminal

noway

[real sierra]

it actually animates too

debugging about to go crazy

gonna add a meme with every error

[real sierra]

catch syntax errors and send this gif instead

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

you know what

if i have some spare cpu left

maybe i can have my creeps generate shitposts

[stark needle]

use the spare cpu for hosting a metaverse nft crypto casino

[rigid snow]

i second this suggestion

[real sierra]

genius

wheres the usual programming crew

are they all EU

[rough bloom]

yes

[stark needle]

maybe

[scarlet arch]

am busy figuring out proxmox :P

[stark needle]

feeling lonely?

[rigid snow]

am not eu xd

[real sierra]

i have questions that need answers

[scarlet arch]

don't we all

[noble zodiac]

the answer is horse girls

[rough bloom]

I have obtained (a broken version of) the Screeps server
now it just has to actually launch
it tries to copy files on init, but Nix makes them read-only and the package Screeps uses for the copy is stupid so it fails

[nocturne olive]

Whar is thar?

[rough bloom]

Screeps: World is an open source MMO RTS sandbox game for programming enthusiasts, wherein the core mechanic is programming your units AI. You control your colony by writing JavaScript which operates 24/7 in the single persistent open world filled by other players on par with you.

that

[real sierra]

filled by other players on par with you

[nocturne olive]

Interesting silliness

[ruby timber]

NIUH coin hosted on Screeps Blockchain?!?!?!?!

[real sierra]

ok i need your wisdom

im trying to figure out how to budget units

i know how much energy i currently have

and can estimate how much i expect to get over a period of time

how do i calculate a budget off of this

like, how much energy should i spend on units

[stark needle]

math graduate asks discord users for math advice😭😭😭🙏

[rough bloom]

idk any other constraints you have (like what else would need the energy) but I guess you could spend a fixed percentage of the incoming energy on units?
if you have a rate of incoming energy then you should be able to get how often to spawn a unit from that

[real sierra]

my concern here is that sometimes the net energy rate is negative if we're spending too much lately

but counterintuitively, the fix to that is to spend more on miners, not less

actually no

i think you're right

im being silly

i need to look at the gross energy gain

not net energy gain

because the net gain already factors in unit expenses from the previous cycle

which arent present in this one

[rough bloom]

yeah, if your net energy gain is negative then just stop spending energy

counterintuitively, the fix to that is to spend more on miners, not less
if this does end up being true somehow then I think I'd just hardcode it, seems like an edge case
deciding what to do with energy is not really a concern yet if you don't have any

[real sierra]

we can have energy stored and still be losing energy over time

spending sooner rather than later to improve the incoming energy rate is the best way to rectify that

[rough bloom]

yeah, I worded it badly but that's what I mean
a net loss of energy is always bad, if there is no surplus of energy then you don't get a choice

[bright scaffold]

i cant understand why in the 1440x900 resolution i have only 40 fps limit

[real sierra]

hopefully this new unit budgeting system works

in theory it will auto-scale the unit size according to available resources

[faint sandal]

https://www.stratascale.com/vulnerability-alert-CVE-2025-32463-sudo-chroot

[trim valve]

just predict your future energy consumption and production based off of previous experiences

[nocturne olive]

How does one perform such function as updating sudo?

[rough bloom]

The default Sudo configuration is vulnerable
Exploitation has been verified on: Ubuntu 24.04.1

[rough bloom]

just keep your system up to date and you're good, you don't need to take care of sudo specifically

(assuming you're using a major distro with reasonably fast patches)

[nocturne olive]

Silly

Mint counts?

[rough bloom]

yeah, Mint should be fine

[nocturne olive]

Well, seems to already be offering an update

[rough bloom]

yeah, that's the patch

https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2025-32463

[nocturne olive]

Fast patch rollouts

[scarlet arch]

My company has a kind of cursed setup for virtual machines but I got our appliance working on my proxmox :D got permission from the CEO and team lead and everything. Dogfooding and all that

[autumn ore]

Yo devs I made the site better https://neurosama.place we fixed the grid, added admin controls and optimised

Now it’s also 247

[real sierra]

[autumn ore]

Hi

Shiro

[nocturne olive]

Pixel canvas? You got a proper template renderer on that?

[autumn ore]

Yeah it barely lags now

[nocturne olive]

You got template styles?

Like how pxls has the numbers style

[autumn ore]

I have know idea what I just read

[autumn ore]

No ig

[nocturne olive]

This is pxls.space numbers style

[olive sable]

Guys, the new hotel sucks

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

[autumn ore]

No

[nocturne olive]

It would be cool if you made it work better than pxls, it's known to be very badly implemented on pxls

[rigid snow]

did afunyun do the frontend

a couple of concerns:

• flashbang!!! dark theme modcheck
• where is the grid? there probably should be a grid beyond a certain zoom level
• there should be a way to see coords @ current position; pxls shows the currently hovered over coords, and i think i remember r/place having the selected pixel always be in the center so it changes when you pan around
• when you hover over an entry log the background changes to white which makes the green text awful contrast

[opaque wharf]

I just woke up and I will choose violence

[rigid snow]

also the browser provided color picker is a no-no

[opaque wharf]

Why?

[amber fractal]

For that last one, it existed before the rework

Still hated yep

[rigid snow]

because how it'll look and feel depends on the platform and can break ux in ways you can't even think of

[opaque wharf]

Shiro is still playing I see

[olive sable]

You friended him?

[opaque wharf]

Isn't that the whole point of using native UI? So people feel at home?

[amber fractal]

I got it a bit easy because it is a new window

[trim valve]

color

[olive sable]

I should too if im gonna host tbh

[opaque wharf]

No, I just backread quite far lol

My condolences on your new hotel lol

[olive sable]

Lmao

The ac does not work

[opaque wharf]

What too many bayesian does to a mfker

[opaque wharf]

Then complain. I know I would especially if its summer lol

[real sierra]

im fixing so many bugs so quickly

part of me is happy because i almost never fix this many bugs per second

part of me is wondering how these bugs have been in the code this long without causing larger problems

[opaque wharf]

We measure efficiency in terms of bugs per second now

[real sierra]

they're not even small bugs

they're like

dividing by an array instead of its length

how did that not cause some kind of crippling error

javascript

[opaque wharf]

Luckily it is a game lol

[real sierra]

push to prod

git push --force

then leave for 3 week vacation

[raw trout]

Hemlo guys!

[real sierra]

[raw trout]

[rigid snow]

• the vendor input type color as i mentioned
• why tf do panels jump on hover
• the place pixel button is not in a sane place
• why do log entries transition their border radius on hover??

[raw trout]

Happy birthday!

[real sierra]

[autumn ore]

Again, happy birthday

[rigid snow]

i can probably go on forever but one more important one: why does the header have a max-width when the content does not

[real sierra]

the code that moves idle creeps off the road might have been the most influential change to this AI since its inception

lifesaver

[olive sable]

I will voice my concerns to the montenegrian chick that does not speak english, dutch or french

Aight imma go to bed now

Gn

[real sierra]

no screeps?

[opaque wharf]

Gestures like a madman

[rigid snow]

"conditioner problem, conditioner problem!"

[olive sable]

Still on vacation

[faint sandal]

https://www.oligo.security/blog/critical-rce-vulnerability-in-anthropic-mcp-inspector-cve-2025-49596

lmao

[opaque wharf]

Gets you a new bottle of hair conditioner

[rigid snow]

chrome, mobile safari (ios webkit), firefox windows

[autumn ore]

Why in my site is a random button being pressed when I click the space key on my phone

[autumn ore]

Yeah we might make a custom colour swatch

[rigid snow]

feeling very at home rn

[autumn ore]

Working on other things tho

[autumn ore]

For the cords, there is on pc

Didn’t have enough room to fit it on mobile

[rigid snow]

placeholder avatar absolutely should not be a png that's a sin

[autumn ore]

The background pixel changes was afunyun

[autumn ore]

It was a jpg before

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/Unit42_Intel/status/1940118301448790528

Unit 42 (@Unit42_Intel)

With the rising popularity of POP MART's Labubu, we've seen a surge in newly registered domains (NRDs), many malicious. These domains impersonate POP MART or host #gambling and crypto #scams. Stay vigilant and always verify URLs before engaging! Details at bit.ly/3ZZ3BTR

**🔁 7 ❤️ 16 👁️ 1.6K **

FxTwitter · Jul 1, 2025, 6:40 PM

[rigid snow]

why did you make it a png it's 90kb ffs

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but the point is them feeling like their own OS right?

[raw trout]

Good think I stick to moving anime pngs with voice

[rigid snow]

not really, the point is to provide a way to input color into an <input type="color">

it's just up for interpretation what the ui should be, it's not in the spec

hence the breaking ux argument

[rigid snow]

i don't understand why they suddenly exploded just now, weren't they a thing for like forever now

like it's so abrupt, a month ago literally nobody knew what a labubu is

ok maybe a bit more than a month but the point still stands

[opaque wharf]

Fair point. Depending on the target I guess. I prefer to make a design that doesn't stray too far from the os guidelines whenever possible

[trim valve]

ok but consider this is the windows color picker

[rigid snow]

at least chromium tries, native color pickers usually suck ass

[rigid snow]

very british

[trim valve]

😭

[rigid snow]

still can't get over this

[sage crag]

postcode file

[trim valve]

😭

at one point they changed "add or remove programs" to "add or remove programmes"

[rigid snow]

"postcode file" but "add to favorites" somehow

oh microsoft

[trim valve]

to add to the first point please could this respect my system theme colour choice

like its nice that you have a dark mode toggle but I don't want to hunt it

[real sierra]

i wanna speed up my code but im worried everything im thinking of is a microoptimization

e.g. caching changes to memory and then committing them in a single write operation at the end of the game tick

[opaque sigil]

micro-optimisations are fun

[real sierra]

the golden phrase is "profile first, optimize second"

[trim valve]

firefox keeps inventing new colours that don't make sense

[real sierra]

but screeps doesnt really give you much for profiling 💔

[rigid snow]

that's usually the default nowadays, if you follow examples/tutorials that is

when you add theming through whatever

[trim valve]

like I'm pretty damn sure that isn't the right colour

and that's not even the same colour as on my screen 😭

[sage crag]

youre doing it wrong

rewrite 20 times first, then optimise, then profile

[real sierra]

screeps?

so

energy storages are owned

and energy extensions are owned

but energy containers are neutral structures?

completely arbitrarily?

this was silently breaking everything

its so confusing because im the one who built it but i dont own it

unlike with almost every other structure

no clear reason for it to be this way

[opaque wharf]

The dev: "let's do a little trolling"

[real sierra]

this isnt even documented anywhere either

[sage crag]

rewrite screeps in hblang

[real sierra]

you just have to spot that the structure doesnt have an owner property

[rigid snow]

hblang js runtime

[rough bloom]

hblang to JS transpiler

[sage crag]

still better than ts

[bright scaffold]

I couldnt get more than 40 fps at 1440x900...

[rigid snow]

not a high bar tbf

[real sierra]

holy

someone had cpu to spare

generated a whole maze for the enemy to solve

[opaque wharf]

Time to wage war

[real sierra]

before war i need to figure out myo wn economy

i think i kinda crippled myself off the start because the energy sources in my room are only accessible by a single tile each

so i can barely extract any

[opaque wharf]

As real economic situations have shown us, war will make the economy

[real sierra]

[round heron]

Does anyone have tips for creating custom ai architectures? I'm doing this currently so I'm curious for any inputs or things I can improve on or things I should do. Any advice helps : )

(ik its simple but id say its a start)

[trim valve]

all the more reason to go to war

[opaque wharf]

I like this guys energy

[real sierra]

const util = require("util");

module.exports = {

    wrap: function(f) {
        const fid = util.nextid();
        return function(...args) {
            const cached = Memory.cache[fid];
            if (cached !== undefined) return cached;
            const newCached = f(args);
            Memory.cache[fid] = newCached;
            return newCached;
        };
    },
    
    clear: function(f) {
        Memory.cache = {};
    },

};

does this seem reasonable for a caching module?

i would have elected to use the function itself as the key if javascript did something reasonable like use the function's address but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[opaque wharf]

Why would you use function as a key

[real sierra]

its a cache wrapper thats supposed to wrap a function

given the only arg is the function i didnt have much else to use for a key

but yeah im just using a unique int instead

[opaque sigil]

Wouldn't you want to include the args for the function in the key

[real sierra]

...

oh sht

[opaque wharf]

Exactly

[real sierra]

const util = require("util");

module.exports = {

    wrap: function(f) {
        const fid = util.nextid();
        Memory.cache[fid] = {};
        return function(...args) {
            const argsKey = JSON.stringify(args);
            const cached = Memory.cache[fid][argsKey];
            if (cached !== undefined) return cached;
            const newCached = f(args);
            Memory.cache[fid][argsKey] = newCached;
            return newCached;
        };
    },
    
    clear: function(f) {
        Memory.cache = {};
    },

};

fixed

[opaque wharf]

Be careful about function with non-primitive data type in their argument

[real sierra]

how come?

[opaque wharf]

[object Object]

[real sierra]

oh sht

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, check it first if that join do what you think it do

[real sierra]

there

does that work

[opaque sigil]

just json.stringify the whole thing

[real sierra]

true

[opaque wharf]

This

[real sierra]

THERE

perfect

no other issues

[opaque sigil]

Also you probably want to use an actual map

[real sierra]

[opaque wharf]

Is it available tho is the question

Check if you have new Map()

[opaque sigil]

I guess depends on how ancient of a version you have

[real sierra]

does exist

[sage crag]

do you even need to

just the args might be sufficient

[opaque wharf]

It is tho?

[opaque sigil]

With Map it should be sufficient I think

Just slap the args and some identifier together and use that as the key

They'll just hash it internally iirc

[sage crag]

yeah

i agree

[real sierra]

use map

[sage crag]

maybe weakmap

dunno

[real sierra]

key still needs to be a primitive

oh wiat

object

nvm

👨‍🦯

[sour harness]

DOCKER_BUILDKIT=1 docker build . --target vllm-openai --tag vllm-current --file docker/Dockerfile --build-arg torch_cuda_arch_list=""
pain peko

[sage crag]

look at weakmap

[opaque sigil]

Can you push to arguments

[real sierra]

weakmap kinda annoying because it lacks a clear method

[opaque sigil]

wasn't weakmap for garbage collecting the values

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but how will it be stored in Memory?

[real sierra]

id have to make a new one each time

[sage crag]

bwa

this does give me an idea for how to do caching in hblang though

thanks

[real sierra]

np

[opaque wharf]

If its going to be stringified, will the reviver able to construct the original object

[opaque sigil]

Wait

It's going to try to stringify the map isn't it

[real sierra]

yes

[opaque sigil]

[real sierra]

thats why i didnt use one at first

should i not use a map then

you sounded so confident i was gonna go for it

[opaque sigil]

I didn't know they did that

[real sierra]

objects ftw

[opaque sigil]

Objects are fine

Maps are just more efficient for constant insert and retrieve

[real sierra]

now to see if the cache is actually faster or if the access overhead slows my code down

[sage crag]

this is why you have an inbuilt profiler to check the cost of functions

[real sierra]

"inbuilt profiler"

do you want to see my "IDE"

[sage crag]

(a timer)

[sage crag]

orm

[real sierra]

heres my "profiler"

[trim valve]

this is my one issue I see with screeps

[sage crag]

you should Order a subscription here ->

[real sierra]

i cant use my cache wraper in my util module

because i imported the guid function from it in the cache module

code duplication time

[sage crag]

perform code duplication 32 times

[opaque wharf]

Can you pull outside code?

[sage crag]

can you include native node modules

[real sierra]

i have potentially good news for both of you

[opaque wharf]

[sage crag]

include the c runtime

[real sierra]

https://docs.screeps.com/commit.html

https://docs.screeps.com/modules.html#Binary-modules

[opaque wharf]

Its rust time

[sage crag]

hblang in screeps real and not rigged

[opaque wharf]

Or maybe hblang with how small the limit is

[sage crag]

only if you want to be limited to x86_64-linux and hbvm-ableos

[real sierra]

omg i had no idea but screeps keeps a timelapse of the room

https://gyazo.com/9a4cd1ce5851cd107317a3925d1b1474.gif

[opaque wharf]

I doubt the server is running anything other than linux

[sage crag]

also the uh, os support is a bit patchy

do you want to replace gnu yes on your machine with a program written in hblang

its free

[opaque wharf]

Hey, it only need to do computation. How hard can it be

[trim valve]

so just to double check so you only get 20ms to compute everything each tick?

[sage crag]

you should just break the timer like leetcode

im sure that works

[real sierra]

https://docs.screeps.com/cpu-limit.html#CPU-Limit

the bucket feature is crucial at scale

[trim valve]

[opaque sigil]

The fact they pulled in emscripten for a single function hurts my soul, llvm is right there

[sage crag]

i am nvidia driver

[opaque sigil]

I hate you

[trim valve]

ok rereading that makes a lot more sense now

[sage crag]

oh

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

still kinda a pain but very cool too

[real sierra]

not that much of a pain

i currently have 10 units running around the map doing all sorts of things

only using about 3 CPU a tick*

about every 50 ticks or so i do a bunch of high compute operations

like calculating derived statistics, checking the integrity of walls in a room, queueing the creation of new units as needed

[sage crag]

work stealing queue for screeps

to be honest i still don't know what screeps is about

[trim valve]

tbh that sounds like one of my very cursed ideas might actually be possible then

[sage crag]

i have a vague idea that someone told me but its like 32 degrees so im kinda rotating

[opaque sigil]

looks like discord has custom themes as part of nitro now huh

well besides the predefined ones

[trim valve]

southerner spotted

[sage crag]

leave your ice palace elsa

[opaque wharf]

Screeps is a "game", trust me bro

Its not another job, bro

[sage crag]

screeps in screeps

recurscreeps

[opaque wharf]

But I do wonder, how would gamification of certain IRL things work out

[trim valve]

https://github.com/screepers/screeps-profiler

neat

[opaque wharf]

Like, can we gamify maintenance system?

[sage crag]

gamify taxes

[opaque wharf]

Wasn't that already done? And people love how easy it is too lol

[sage crag]

i dont know

i curse you with minor back pain at one specific angle

[amber fractal]

At least we can finally blame it on RNG

[amber fractal]

No effect, my back is in pain by existing

[sage crag]

i curse you with slightly crunchy wrists

[amber fractal]

They already crunch majorly

[rigid snow]

this is getting out of hand, i curse you with inability to curse people

[sage crag]

i curse you with oh

[amber fractal]

[sage crag]

why did you do this

[rigid snow]

let people enjoy their lives smh

[sage crag]

i bless you with a new 1600 degree heater

[amber fractal]

[opaque wharf]

Doing the Neuro manuever

[sage crag]

(doubles as new cpu)

[rigid snow]

that's a very steep angle that heater is at

[real sierra]

hmm

i need more help with the cache function

[sage crag]

its actually conveniently 160 degree angle

[real sierra]

because of this, if any of my cache-wrapped functions receive a game object as a key, they might fail

or maybe it'll be fine as long as they're json stringified uniquely?

[amber fractal]

Imagine if one could overclock a CPU that can exist at that temp, Sure it'd be unstable far before it ever gets to max heat but it'd be interesting to see the clocks.

[opaque wharf]

This

[rigid snow]

wait no wouldn't it be obtuse

[sage crag]

1600 mod 360 is 160

[rigid snow]

i am very sm,art as you can see

160 is obtuse

right?..

[sage crag]

is it bigger than 90

[opaque wharf]

-200 degree is less than 90 yes

[rigid snow]

so is 1600 mhm

[sage crag]

well, you cant consider 1600

for an example, 361 degrees is bigger than 90 degrees

[rigid snow]

what if the heater is on a spring

[sage crag]

but 361 degrees is equivalent to 1 degree

you only care about the remainder of division by 360

[rigid snow]

why are you explaining that

[sage crag]

i have prepared this handy doodad to demonstrate that 1600 degrees and 160 degrees are equivalent

[amber fractal]

Dividing by 10 always works

[real sierra]

i thought you meant temperature for a sec

[sage crag]

excuse to use desmos

[sage crag]

honestly im not sure any more

im typing but i dont know what to type about so im ambiently continuing to type until something appears in my mind

meow

[nocturne olive]

Whar may the silliness occurring here be?

[sage crag]

silliness does not occur, it is not a phenomenon

it is a property of the environment

[amber fractal]

-# konii got her curse privileges revoked

[nocturne olive]

Whar

[sage crag]

high concentration of silly particles in the atmosphere

[rigid snow]

the thing has been said

[rigid snow]

silly

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

she can still bless us with very powerful heaters though so i’d be careful

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

a freezer is also a heater

and by the transitive property this means that ice cubes are also heaters

thus we can infer that water must be a heater, and therefore all things that contain water are heaters

hence in this essay i will demonstrate why i should be allowed to bless people with mosquito swarm

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[rigid snow]

this statement is factually correct, they do dissipate heat into their surroundings

[sage crag]

enough talking, i bless you with plague of egypt

[rigid snow]

everything else idk

[real sierra]

i wasnt looking for like 3 secs and all of my miners have died

[opaque wharf]

The charm works. Konii blessing is redirected to Shiro screeps

[real sierra]

why are we not spawning more

[sage crag]

definitely blessing

all good things

[rigid snow]

ice cubes are cold and they accumulate heat rather than dissipating it if the surroundings are hotter than the ice cubes, which they are most of the time

[sage crag]

they accumulate environmental heat but they also radiate it back out

[opaque wharf]

But consider, Ice cubes in 0K environment

[rigid snow]

0k environment

[sage crag]

or more simply, ice cube in environment below zero celcius

ice cube acts as a heater while ice cube is above the ambient temperature

[real sierra]

OH

PROPORTIONS_MINER: {work: 0.34, carry: 0.33, move: 0.33}

[rigid snow]

that appears to be what i said

[real sierra]

that should be 0.33 not 0.34

[sage crag]

where is sleep

your workers need to unionise

[rigid snow]

[real sierra]

nope

life cycle of a screep

work, carry, move, die

[sage crag]

me too

i might be a screep

[real sierra]

i found that bug a bit too late

all of my screep died

we should get the discord development team hooked on this game

they could learn a thing or two about performant javascript

[sage crag]

what if discord worker productivity decreases by 0% due to them playing screeps in 100% of office hours

[rigid snow]

escape the matrix, leave your job, sleep however much you soooo desire

[real sierra]

if it decreases by 0% thats perfect

the walls are rotting

[sage crag]

tell them to get out of bed

[real sierra]

too much youtube shorts

[sage crag]

the walls need to get jobs

[real sierra]

have to wait for the spawn to generate enough energy on its own for a worker

[sage crag]

hm yes i come from the ios twitch app

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

its apparently very important to my stay on twitch since it's still here

[real sierra]

IOS USER

[real sierra]

a miner spawned life finds a way

[sage crag]

they had a theory about this in the 18th century called spontaneous generation

good to see it's revival in 2025 in the scholarly halls of #programming

[real sierra]

i feel very smart just by being in this channel

all of your collective brain essence really gives it intelligence vibes

even if 90% of the projects will never be seen or used by any but their developer

[rigid snow]

what are projects

is it like an idea you have and research and forget

[sage crag]

project is when you imagine thing and then dont finish it

cheese monument

[rigid snow]

imagine thing and forget in a day mhm

[real sierra]

screeps is a project

[tiny mango]

mm crunchy

[real sierra]

i want to lodge another formal javascript complaint

there is no builtin for getting a random integer

[sage crag]

please lodge as many formal (or informal) javascript complaints (really, anything) as you like (as many possible)

[real sierra]

i tried printing an html form to the console and it actually rendered

i clicked submit and my game had a seizure

[sage crag]

evil witchmagick

[rigid snow]

is a project something like this then?

[dark valve]

Hello guys

what are you guys talking about

Making a new game?

[sage crag]

linkedin

[real sierra]

we're talking about projects

and never finishing them

[amber fractal]

I'm this one

[opaque wharf]

And this is me

[midnight sigil]

that's me

I never finish shits

[tiny mango]

I get it to MVP and call it a day

if anyone asks questions I say I'm actively developing

[opaque wharf]

How do you transition from state A to B in this diagram?

[tiny mango]

If they ask how I'm actively developing 50 projects I say I'm goated like that

[opaque wharf]

Can you make the jump from within any node in the sub-FSM?

[midnight sigil]

[real sierra]

your hard drive dies and you have to rewrite the project

[tiny mango]

have i made a shiro day comment today

[sage crag]

im limited edition

[midnight sigil]

it's a recursive loop

[sage crag]

you have now

[tiny mango]

yay!

[midnight sigil]

hbd shibo

[real sierra]

close!

[tiny mango]

yes. more.

[real sierra]

its my country's birthday today

[tiny mango]

do you french

[sage crag]

shiro you have a country named after you?

[tiny mango]

oh deja vu

[real sierra]

if needed

[real sierra]

no, probably for the best

[opaque wharf]

Fr*nch

[tiny mango]

product releases in canada require all english text to also be shown in french

[sage crag]

[tiny mango]

i know this because i lied about french fluency during interviews

[real sierra]

my screeps are reborn

[real sierra]

[tiny mango]

oui

[real sierra]

probably shouldnt lie about that given its very easy to check

[tiny mango]

oui.

[rigid snow]

mods rule 10 is being broken mods mods

[sage crag]

interviewer: [speaks french]
interviewee: uhh, perdon

easy

[tiny mango]

me fr

no they found it funny and all went well

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

get a fake hearing aid for anti-polyglot tactics

[tiny mango]

Wasn't officially on my resume, they just asked and I said "depends on how badly I want this role" and they were like "so...?" and I said "fluent"

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

can’t background check that either

[real sierra]

[tiny mango]

transparency is important etc etc, I was just being silly because I thought it would land well and it did

[midnight sigil]

job gambling

[tiny mango]

it's an internship, I wasn't pressed

[midnight sigil]

we should study psychology, so we can manipulate the interviewers 👍

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

wow

lets try again

[tiny mango]

arg

[warped narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-embed-fail-embed-gif-9722294440617564781

[tiny mango]

jpeg.jpe

[sage crag]

i tried

[tiny mango]

it's okay

[sage crag]

thank you

[tiny mango]

you're very welcome

[sage crag]

you too

[real sierra]

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-embed-failure-gif-15456327638408323033

[real sierra]

my screeps console doesnt print stuff very often to keep the ai performant

[sage crag]

screeps llm

[real sierra]

but when its empty, it feels like its not doing anything

[real sierra]

valid option if you can make it run fast enough

wasm llm library must exist by now

[opaque wharf]

Buffer the logging. Then log all at once

[sage crag]

you will never guess how many stars

[tiny mango]

screep is what i'm naming my next hamster

[warped narwhal]

Just do a fetch call to a self hosted llama instance

[real sierra]

i think it buffers on its own

[sage crag]

buffer it more

yesh

[real sierra]

found another issue with the cache code

module.exports = {

    wrap: function(f) {
        const fid = this.nextid();
        Memory.cache[fid] = {};
        return function(...args) {
            const argsKey = JSON.stringify(args);
            const cached = Memory.cache[fid][argsKey];
            if (cached !== undefined) return cached;
            const newCached = f(args);
            Memory.cache[fid][argsKey] = newCached;
            return newCached;
        };
    },
    
    clear: function(f) {
        Memory.cache = {};
        Memory.cachegid = 0;
    },

    // copy of util.nextid to avoid circular reference and rapid incrementing
    nextid: function() {
        Memory.cachegid += 1;
        return Memory.cachegid;
    },

};

the wrapper packs the parameters into args

but then passes args to the wrapped function as an array

need to unpack

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, do the ...args again

[real sierra]

how

oh perfect