programming

[nocturne olive]

That is indeed technically a valid domain

[trim valve]

god bless tailscale dns, I love being able to just http://ouppy and pull up random grafana dashboards on my laptop

[desert plaza]

how

[nocturne olive]

You know how most domain names have dots? Well, it works kinda like a folder tree, and com is the top directory of the com TLD

[rigid snow]

you can add records to a tld the same way you would to a “subdomain of a tld” commonly referred to as a regular domain name

see this

[sage crag]

the concept of a valid domain is somewhat misguiding

since what is and isnt is dependant on your dns provider

[rigid snow]

punycode emoji

[sage crag]

if you want you could have

​

as your domain name

if you dns provider decided so

[trim valve]

I think we're talking about two different kinds of valid here no?

[trim valve]

like is this actually spec compliant

[sage crag]

in terms of "valid" domains as in, what can you register, https://com/ could never be registered

[rigid snow]

i could have what

[trim valve]

ah yeah, you couldn't register that but theoretically speaking a browser would be able to resolve that if someone added records onto com

[sage crag]

the com tld itself is managed by verisign, so perhaps they internally have the domain https://com/ or https://com.com/

but yeah

[rigid snow]

what you “internally” have does not matter, it depends on what the dns server says

[noble zodiac]

it's just like email adresses. Trying to validate them, really validate them against the specification is insanly tricky (and pointless)

foobar@[192.168.2.1] is a valid email adress

[rigid snow]

so if public dns servers don’t say that com resolves to A 10.10.10.10 it may as well not be a thing

[desert plaza]

seems like the definition of "valid domain" is unclear in this conversation

who here has actually read rfc1035 or something

[trim valve]

i have it open

[noble zodiac]

sadly I have in the past

[olive sable]

Nope

Never heard of it

[sage crag]

que suerte

[rough bloom]

random somewhat-related fun fact: comparing or hashing URLs in Java causes DNS lookups

[olive sable]

Oh thats spanish

[trim valve]

so many langs have url objects that do dns lookups its annoying

[olive sable]

I was trying to translate it as french and was very confused

[polar crane]

I'm building a mini LM just cause I want a break from my large LLM and idk if 3.96M params is a lot cause I'm used to working with my large LLM (175.6B params)

num_layers: 16

num_heads: 16

embedding_dim: 128

vocab_size: 3152

[nocturne olive]

3.96M params is very tiny, that's not gonna be able to do much

[lament igloo]

are u guys talking ab domains?

[polar crane]

I'm aware, I just want to take a break from my giant LLM and work on something tiny

[lament igloo]

shit im late

[polar crane]

But now I know, thank you /gen

[stark needle]

whats the expectations

[nocturne olive]

Well, even on the size range of tiny language models, 4M params is tiny
For comparison, NeuroSynth-BETA-X series is 100M params

[polar crane]

Just to be able to finish sentences that are cut off

[scarlet arch]

end my suffering

[polar crane]

Fair enough

[stark needle]

4m is good enough

For just basic autocomplete

[desert plaza]

yeah superbox said "com" is a valid dn

[lament igloo]

it is

it is technically valid but cant be accessed

[polar crane]

Alr

[desert plaza]

so it's valid, but can't be accessed mhm

does anyone know why gdb asm layout always displays a repeated add instruction

[stark needle]

Chat i swear the chemical composition is insane of this

How is

Fluoride gel of 25 grams almost 20 bucks

[opaque sigil]

Elaborate

[desert plaza]

you don't know what i mean?

[sage crag]

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/GB/en/product/sial/nist2387

[opaque sigil]

i do not (though admittedly i also don't use gdb usually, or at least not directly)

[sage crag]

sorry what is a "Domestic sludge"

[desert plaza]

it's always there 😭

[rough bloom]

the NIST reference materials

[desert plaza]

an infinitely repeated add instruction at the end of any program i look at

[scarlet arch]

"standardized poop"

[sage crag]

expiration and storage details, and instructions for use

[scarlet arch]

I know

the main price of these comes from their insane calibration

[opaque wharf]

The google play thing is one time fee Sam

Unlike Apple

[scarlet arch]

you can even buy standarized bars of chocolate

[opaque wharf]

Also, xyz domain is usually cheap

[opaque sigil]

sounds like gdb not being aware of some byte pattern past the program and it interpreting it as assembly but i don't think i've ever heard of this specific one

[desert plaza]

the same thing appears in yt videos too though

asm tutorials having the same non-existent add instruction

gdb is silly

[opaque sigil]

what's the actual instruction (the whole thing)

[desert plaza]

add %al, (%eax)

%al = src

[opaque sigil]

there we go

that's 0

[desert plaza]

bruh 💀

why does gdb show me that

[opaque wharf]

Because gdb hates you specifically

[opaque sigil]

because executables have padding in them and gdb is dumb (i think they have a mode specifically for this problem)

there's disassemble <function> i guess

[stark needle]

I'm allergic

Also

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/openai-is-shutting-down-for-the-next-week-chief-research-officer-mark-chen-warns-employees-meta-knows-we-are-/articleshow/122158015.cms

Anyone down for 80 hour work weeks

[desert plaza]

"padding", suuuuuree. gdb is trolling me, there are an infinite amount of those non-existent adds showing up

[opaque sigil]

maybe, who knows

[sage crag]

should have included DWARF in the binary

[opaque wharf]

80 hours/week? As in, more than 10 hrs/day? Wtf

[desert plaza]

would the debug sections actually fix that

[opaque sigil]

i'd hope so since it presumably gives gdb extra info so it knows when to stop

[desert plaza]

idk even know what the debug SHTs are, there doesn't seem to be a debug section header type

i'll have to compile a program with debug sections and check their sh_type

i do have a program that doesn't have the fake adds in gdb, but i don't see any debug sections in the section header table

[olive sable]

It better be, im poor (for now)

[opaque wharf]

Well, apple developer is yearly fee. So there's that

Apple not only fucking up customer but also developer

[desert plaza]

alright, sh_type = SHT_PROGBITS (0x01)

[olive sable]

I wonder who this is

Anyways the website wont load well on this croatian wifi, how mush does the plush cost?

[desert plaza]

i see, the program has eh_frames, which are based on DWARF or somthn

[olive sable]

Ah its 30 bucks

[warped narwhal]

daily reminder that javascript sucks

[scarlet arch]

massive difference depending on shipping

mine for example was fairly okay at like a few bucks, came out to 38.83€. But people in Canada have insane shipping cost if I recall

[olive sable]

Apparently vedal . Shop is a scam site.

It was cheaper there

[scarlet arch]

yeah, basically any site someone talks about on stream will be bought and used for shady shit. it sucks

[olive sable]

Ye its 39.32 for me with shipping

[rigid snow]

it was bought back in april it's not even from the stream mention

[warped narwhal]

Here is some totally normal c++ code that certainly doesn't include any warcrimes or scuffness whatsoever

#include <utility>

namespace clas::clas
{
    class classs {} classs;
    template <typename cllass=decltype(classs)>
    class clas : public ::clas::clas::classs {friend class classs; public: enum class calss { clas, classs, clasclass }; union {class ::clas::clas::classs clas; enum class calss cals;} clas;};
    using clasclass = std::pair<class ::clas::clas::clas<class classs>, class ::clas::clas::clas<class classs>>;

    clasclass classclas;

    class ::clas::clas::clas<class classs> claas(class ::clas::clas::clas<class classs> clas)
    {
        auto classs = decltype(clas)::calss::clas;
        return classs == clas.clas.cals? ::clas::clas::clas{clas}:clas;
    }

    int main()
    {
        ::clas::clas::classclas = {::clas::clas::claas(::clas::clas::clas<class classs>()), ::clas::clas::clas<class classs>{}};
        return 0;
    }
}

int main() {return clas::clas::main();}

[olive sable]

Can you add the cpp thingt

This is unreadable for me rn

[warped narwhal]

it does, but mobile doesn't support it (if you're on mobile)

[olive sable]

Ah

That makes sense

[warped narwhal]

return classs == clas.clas.cals? ::clas::clas::clas{clas}:clas; is definitely my favourite line

[olive sable]

Its all class? Always has been

[nocturne olive]

WHuh

That looks so silly

[stark needle]

i think it's vanor

[olive sable]

Vanor this you?

He wouldnt mind being pinged would he?

[opaque wharf]

One way to find out really

[scarlet arch]

finished my 286 commit rebase. fml

I hope you guys are having a better day :D

cause I started that one uh... 5 hours ago

[cobalt shard]

Hi there

Anyone here?

[opaque wharf]

No, we only come out once every blue moon

[cobalt shard]

R u being lockdown😭

[olive sable]

Its just a slow evening ig

[cobalt shard]

Kinda sick 💀

In 2 way

🐧

[olive sable]

In a dream, you're telling the story.. to yourself.
Yet you still fall for all the plottwists???

[desert plaza]

what

[olive sable]

Yes

🙂‍↕️

[desert plaza]

[olive sable]

I have reached actual vertices

At page 87

[opaque wharf]

Ahh yes, the ultimate enemy of CodeParade. The traditional rendering pipeline

[olive sable]

Ye this pipeline is the exact same as in opengl

Besides that you have more dontrol

[opaque wharf]

Where he tried to use that same rendering pipeline for non euclidean game and 4D-5D game

[opaque sigil]

isn't the pipeline in opengl dynamic

as in you can change the shaders

whereas in vulkan the entire pipeline is static

[olive sable]

Kinda, you have to enable an exstension

[opaque wharf]

Wut?

So no compute shader?

[olive sable]

If you enable that one exstension you can use a vertex shader with multiple different fragment shaders

[opaque sigil]

no i meant you can't just swap out the shader freely, you have to redefine the entire pipeline

i could be lying

[rough bloom]

no, static as in you have 1 pipeline per shader
not really a big deal

[opaque wharf]

Ohh, got it

[rough bloom]

if you want another shader you just use another pipeline

[olive sable]

Btw, new acerola video

Tried to copy the link, copied the discord message

Uhhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1OdPrO7GD0

E

[opaque wharf]

Also, I have decided that cross-platform mobile development is a nightmare anyways. So I decided to ditch that

[rough bloom]

good choice

[olive sable]

So true

I will still do it tho

[sage crag]

are you also packaging natively for mobile

[opaque wharf]

I can only wish you good luck in that endeavor

[sage crag]

truly

[olive sable]

Maybe, I'll see

Mobile can do c++ compiled shit right???

With sdl

[hard raptor]

Yes

[olive sable]

Sdl will solve everything

In sdl we believe

[hard raptor]

Sdl - smoll pp layer

But then the other word for pp

[opaque wharf]

The funny internet man delivers good content as always lol

[hard raptor]

Real chads implement it themselves

[opaque wharf]

You know what? Ironically I think doing a game engine will be easier than making a GUI app for some data

[hoary lion]

ooh terrain

[olive sable]

speak for yourself

[hard raptor]

I have no motivation so i keep just finding the most roundabout way of doing simple things

[hard raptor]

I don't even have one

[opaque wharf]

@wary rover you may be interested in this mechanism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QTkPfq7w1A

[stark needle]

[rigid snow]

my neck hurts

[stark needle]

there's no way

https://wccftech.com/geforce-rtx-5050-benchmarked-on-furmark/

how is the 5050 still worse than the 2060

Bros did 0 upgrades

[rigid snow]

wtf

[stark needle]

I find it funny how

Nvidia had to discontinue the good 3050

To sell a shitty 3050

With 6gb

[opaque wharf]

Meanwhile chinese hardware modder are pulling all of those VRAM to make some unholy GPU frankenstein

[stark needle]

Waste of sand

https://youtu.be/caU0RG0mNHg?si=gJdzzsvj44nAZ_QU

😭😭

[rigid snow]

i thought they just cut off/desolder the gpu die

and solder it onto a custom board

[olive sable]

Ok

[rigid snow]

and source the vram themselves?

[olive sable]

Yep

[opaque wharf]

That too. They basically made custom PCB and get the component from existing GPU because it is cheaper than buying the GPU with more VRAM in the first place

[rigid snow]

it wouldn't make sense otherwise becaue like where are they getting the other half of the vram from

[opaque wharf]

It is one thing with yesterday cursed mathematical curve, it is another thing entirely when said curve is actual physical / empirical phenomenon

[rigid snow]

you get two 4090s, you have 2 gpu dies but vram for one only

[opaque wharf]

Yep. But I think with enough time they could find a way to get VRAM IC too

[rigid snow]

i'm saying they 100% do source it themselves

[opaque wharf]

I mean their homebrew x86 CPU is now around 5-3 years behind

[rigid snow]

oh you mean domestic production

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[rigid snow]

i don't think they're banned from buying vram modules

[opaque wharf]

But I don't think they're readily available either

[sage crag]

self awareness

[opaque wharf]

Halting problem be like

[hard raptor]

That video has misinformation.. all 4 glasses i have don't do the snapping

[olive sable]

Glasses?

[hard raptor]

Glasses

If you watch the video you will eventually see what im talking about

[olive sable]

👓

[opaque wharf]

It is there but it's subtle. Otherwise if the hinge is free-rotating it wouldn't feel comfortable when you put it on. If it doesn't lock, then either the hinge is broken or it is a design decision (which I can't fathom why)

[hard raptor]

Well i have 2 raybans 1 ralph lauren and 1 DbyD. None of them have it, they rather go for the stiff hinge approach where it doesn't move much cuz you move, cuz the hinges are stiff, well except my raybans.. they tend to get unstiff pretty quickly, but i don't really find them uncomfortable

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, stiff hinge could also be an option than locking one

[tender river]

self awareness (async)

GNUgold 1.16

[opaque wharf]

Cat to Cat

Not so simple cat

[tender river]

cat symlinks to coreutils which are like 1.5mb

in my case at least

[hard raptor]

My raybans are really loose atm tho, as i said before and those are the ones i wear the most, since those are my regular glasses

The other 2 are sunglasses

[sage crag]

that shouldnt be embedded in there

hm

i can save bytes

nvm i already strip it on release builds

specifically ReleaseFast it appears

i do not strip it on ReleaseSafe

[tender river]

safety

[sage crag]

yuh

safety

[opaque wharf]

Any moving mechanical part will eventually experience wear and tear. Even the snapping hinge will eventually lose its snappiness. Just a matter of how many cycle it will take.

[sage crag]

its not really unsafe to do the extra stripping i do on ReleaseFast

it just may have unintended effects that i havent tested

also prevents you from objdumping the binary

[tender river]

that made it fit on the screenshot

[sage crag]

user@linux ~/c/lily-0.2.0 (0.2.0)> objdump -d out/x86_64-linux/main

out/x86_64-linux/main:     file format elf64-x86-64

what a great disasm

[hard raptor]

2... it took 2

[sage crag]

how long does this take btw

perf stat it perhaps

[opaque wharf]

Due to how stiffness is usually achieved, I am not that surprised

[hard raptor]

Wait

[tender river]

also it doesnt work when reading from a file

[hard raptor]

I found my very first frames

Those do snap!

[sage crag]

sync buff

i also dont know what specs your pc has

[tender river]

50x less branches and 20x less cycles would do that

[sage crag]

it would yeah

its a really smart program, take a look

[tender river]

i saw it

[sage crag]

main := fn(): u8 loop {
    chr: u8 = 0
    out := arch.sys.read(arch.sys.fd_stdin, &chr, 1)
    if out == 1 {
        _ = arch.sys.write(arch.sys.fd_stdout, &chr, 1)
    } else if out == -1 die else if out == 0 return out
}

read a single char unbuffered

so fast

[tender river]

i have many talents

[sage crag]

it makes sense that async reading 1 file is slower than sync reading it anyway

[tender river]

when you have to hit a note 2 seconds after you see it, you learn to see the future

[sage crag]

right

39136 /usr/bin/tee
i dont see why tee is so large

after all mine only 261 bytes

[tender river]

idk how to fix reading from files, worst case i'll write some assembly for synchronizing threads and use blocking reads

[tender river]

probably nothing to do with what man tee says

[sage crag]

wow this is a fun tool

[tender river]

silencing man the first step towards liberation

posix wh

[sage crag]

surprising that tee actually seems slower at reading files than this

its totally the overhead from starting the binary

[tender river]

try larger files

[sage crag]

that's cheating

[tender river]

dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/stdout bs=1M count=1024

[sage crag]

i dont know what you mean

[opaque wharf]

Why stdout. Use it as the name it should be. Disk Destroyer

[sage crag]

chat why is my tee impl slower than gnu's

smaller binary means faster right

[tender river]

dd stands for "convert and copy a file"

you can remember it by the easy acronym dconvert dcopy

[sage crag]

dd stands for no one, it is a command

[tender river]

please dont get nerdsniped into beating gnu yes performance

[sage crag]

i can do this one

[opaque wharf]

TIL this thing exists on my system

Why

[tender river]

its useful

[sage crag]

main := fn(): never loop {
    _ = arch.sys.write(arch.sys.fd_stdout, "y\n".ptr, 2)
}

how do i measure y's per second

i should use io_uring to write y's concurrently

[tender river]

thats not what concurrency is for

each file is still sequential

for bigger writes use bigger buffers

[sage crag]

ok so gnu yes does 501M y/s on my machine

oh

o h

[sage crag]

im not going to post the results of this

[tender river]

[sage crag]

how do you optimise the outputting of y\n aside from buffering

[tender river]

write more of them at once

[sage crag]

that's cheating

[tender river]

set ioctls

(maybe)

[sage crag]

im gonna make an 8kb buffer and spam those

ok now im also at 500M

$buf_size := 4 * 1024
main := fn(): never loop {
    buf := target.alloc(buf_size).?
    target.memfill(buf, "y\n".ptr, buf_size >> 1, 2)
    _ = arch.sys.write(arch.sys.fd_stdout, buf, buf_size)
}

there you go

ignore the memory leak

the kernel wants to give me 8KiB of memory 500 million times a second

[tender river]

erm why not just move it before the loop

[sage crag]

that's cheating

[tender river]

at some point you gotta learn to cheat

[sage crag]

also wait a minute im not allocating the buffer 500 million times a second

otherwise my pc would explode

[tender river]

you're doing it 128k times a second or something

[sage crag]

1 gig per second memory leak

poghd

seems like it

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

dangerous yes function

[olive sable]

1 gig/s is like 10x as bad as me

No wait, i only lost 100mb per reload, not per se

[tender river]

its not dangerous its just a good test for the oom killer

[olive sable]

Thats a lot worse than me

[sage crag]

its ok i would just have to move the allocating outside the loop

but then its no fun

[sage crag]

i dont think my system has an oom killer

i am the oom killer

[tender river]

konii thats a big responsibility

[sage crag]

konii-oomd

[tender river]

oom killer, with oom pronounced as uum

[rigid snow]

electron
electron
electron

[sage crag]

discord, vscode

[tender river]

i have zero electrons

[sage crag]

oh

rip

[rigid snow]

clearly you should delete those

[sage crag]

ermd, it's an oomd that plays erm sfx when it reaps a program

[tender river]

reminds me of https://github.com/storax/kubedoom

(and psdoom)

[sage crag]

this is chaotic

oops wrong kubernetes pod

[tender river]

[sage crag]

by the way, hblang-yes is certified to be 549 bytes

[tender river]

wont even fit in one disc sector.....

[sage crag]

oh wait i can inline one function

brb

499 bytes

[tender river]

yippie

[sage crag]

not yippie

it should be smaller

why is there a memcpy in here

oh its my programming

nevermind carry on

if anyone is interested in the asm for whatever reason

ever since i started handling alignment in memcpy it's gotten a bit larger

[tender river]

also forgot to mention but if you use separate home and / subvolumes i recommend setting the compression on / to zstd:15 and on /home to regular zstd, since / is written to relatively rarely

[sage crag]

maybe your / is rarely written to

[tender river]

if you have /var you can create a separate subvolume for that too

[sage crag]

bwa

[tender river]

either way personally i just use zstd:15 even at /home (or, well, did, before i switched to bcachefs)

[silk moon]

Im working on some things in python

And i will propably publish them

But i have to lvl up first

Becouse I can't add picks or files

[bitter coral]

Why... I was just getting started on the undo-redo solution that I thought of, only to find out that once again it has already been done for me. time to figure out how to use this properly I guess.

[amber fractal]

[tiny mango]

Attempting to add voice cracks to tts (plugin) as a fun little side project and like 80% of the time it just makes a "hhhhhhhhh" sound instead of what it needs to do

womp womp !

[rigid snow]

this is borderline criminal

like excuse me

[opaque wharf]

It is native tho. Browser is native application

*inb4 someone made browser web app

[rigid snow]

not what i'm referring to

why is tauri backend "node.js" but wails is go

[opaque wharf]

Oh that, yeah

[rigid snow]

you can use node as a backend for tauri iirc

[opaque wharf]

Yes but also rust

I suppose most webdev will choose nodejs

[rigid snow]

but no one does and you have to ensure the user has node yourself

the whole point of tauri is swapping node for rust

[opaque wharf]

No better than what python does IIRC. They also have a framework that ships a (watered down/portable) python interpreter intallation

[rigid snow]

electron ships chromium and node, tauri doesn't ship anything

you get a native executable

that renders the os webview

[opaque wharf]

I wonder what is the best way to handle native GUI app. HTML and CSS prevalence I think partly can be attributed to the ease of learning on how a GUI could be designed

[rigid snow]

for web devs i would say react native if it supported linux

[opaque wharf]

No, like, have you seen QML? A DSL to make QT GUI

[rigid snow]

i have unfortunately

[opaque sigil]

That sounds horrendous

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I am wondering how would an optimal GUI DSL looks like. Does separating markup, styling, and function really is the way to go or is there a better ways to do it

[rigid snow]

but also it's not much different from flutter and dioxus and i imagine many others

[opaque wharf]

Because HTML+CSS+JS fits exactly that pattern so maybe I am biased because of it

[sage crag]

asking for an optimal gui dsl is like asking for an optimal programming language

its dependant on usecase

[rigid snow]

jsx

[opaque wharf]

No. Vue SFC ftw

[sage crag]

fake words

[rigid snow]

no

[opaque sigil]

I'm sorry but for/if as attributes is NOT it

[tender river]

as a compromise everyone should just use lisp

[opaque wharf]

But why? Do you want to manipulate the markup during a loop?

[sage crag]

which one

[rigid snow]

why should you not be able to? also you absolutely can with ifs

[tender river]

emacs lisp

[sage crag]

hblang as gui dsl

[tender river]

that'll teach them to never again replace scheme with js in browsers

[sage crag]

express gui in the type system

[opaque sigil]

One of the best or worst parts about scala depending on who you ask is how easily you can make DSLs with it

Wtf I can't English

[sage crag]

rewrite gnu coretils in hblang

[tender river]

no. posix bad

[opaque wharf]

I am in the camp that markup should not be changed (added/removed) during iteration. The state to render the markup is what should be changed. If a data should not be visible then filter it before attempting to display it

[rigid snow]

look i already hated scala at first sight many years ago and avoided it like the plague, now you're telling me people are putting dsls in, seemingly often too?? absolutely disgusting

[tender river]

if only comptime didnt stack overflow when i throw basic monads at it

[sage crag]

stop doing recursion then

[tender river]

scala is beautiful its my favorite jvm lang

[sage crag]

wrong reply but ok

[opaque sigil]

You configure sbt through scala too

[tender river]

https://git.ablecorp.eu/chayleaf/hblsp/src/branch/trunk/json.hb theres like 0 recursion in here

[rigid snow]

one would think it's clojure or something

[sage crag]

my lord i havent read this in a while

Seq := fn($A: type, $B: type): type return struct {
    Res := ParseResult(SeqRes(ParseRes(A).Out, ParseRes(B).Out))
    parse := fn(allocator: @Any(), data: []u8): Res {
        res := json.parse(A, allocator, data)
        if !res.inner.is_ok {
            return Res.err(res.inner.expect_err("error in Seq"))
        }
        left := res.inner.unwrap()
        res2 := json.parse(B, allocator, left.data)
        if !res2.inner.is_ok {
            return Res.err(res2.inner.expect_err("error in Seq [2]"))
        }
        right := res2.inner.unwrap()
        return Res.ok(right.data, .(left.res, right.res))
    }
}

no wonder the compiler is having a heart attack

i dont blame it

[tender river]

i do

[sage crag]

the compiler should go on strike for this

[rigid snow]

compiler is always wrong

[sage crag]

only 1 accepted compiler so its right by definition

[rigid snow]

the customer is always right

[sage crag]

imagine if compilers were just tiny people who translated your code to asm

[tender river]

you dont want me to implement a lisp vm and make the lsp in that

[sage crag]

please

first async monads in json parser, then lisp vm

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

they arent async in json parser

[rigid snow]

what's the assembler then

[sage crag]

smaller people

figures

[rigid snow]

mhm

[sage crag]

hi does anyone want me to send them a copy of yes for linux x86_64

[tender river]

this is just yes and totally not the entire coreutils believe me

[sage crag]

dubious 1.41 MB file

[tender river]

its yes

[sage crag]

i believe you

[rigid snow]

do you have one for darwin ppc64

[sage crag]

absolutely not

[trim valve]

rewrite it in rust 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 and watch the binary size increase blazingly fast 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀

[sage crag]

wait someone compile uutils

how big is it

[trim valve]

I dunno

I cant be bothered to get out of bed

or switch my pc on

[sage crag]

in bed at midnight

how could you

[rigid snow]

fake programmer

[trim valve]

I had a long day

[tender river]

for completely unrelated reasons heres another yes i wonder why its of a different size

[trim valve]

also who says I can't both be on my bed and on my pc at the same time

[sage crag]

hmm

i dont trust it

[opaque wharf]

My cat only weight 39K

[tender river]

its yes

[opaque wharf]

Oh right

Yes only 35K

[rigid snow]

that's still; a very heavy cat

are you sure you're not overfeeding it

[opaque sigil]

12M on windows

[opaque wharf]

Nah, she's good

[tender river]

that was the wrong one heres the correct one

wrong ping

[tender river]

a

[opaque wharf]

How long until we reach the GB mark

[rigid snow]

unzip -p totally_not_a_zip_bomb.zip | cat

[trim valve]

brb gonna go implement yes with precisely zero branches and one too many assumptions about how much people say yes

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

ok but you need to beat 500M y per second

thats what im getting from hblang-yes

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

program simple, but effective

[tender river]

how are you benching it

[sage crag]

i would tell you if my computer wasnt being repossesed by 5 mosquitos

[tender river]

[trim valve]

smh konii that's what happens when you miss your computer payments

[tender river]

its ok you can killt hme

[sage crag]

it was like yes | pv -l >/dev/null

[tender river]

they wont take your money if they're dead

[sage crag]

they dont bite me because im barely a living creature

but they do spook me

ive placed some blue lights outside to draw them away but its having a bad effect on the local bug life

oh thamks you spider web

[tender river]

yes.py confirmed faster than gnu yes

[sage crag]

this is not the same output

[opaque wharf]

Now pv is something I've never heard about and it didn't exists on my system

Unlike yes

[sage crag]

oops i destroyed a mosquito with the power of the sun

[tender river]

[sage crag]

idiot bug flew into the radiator

do not ask why i have a radiator on in this weather

[opaque wharf]

Why do you have a radiator on in this weather?

[tender river]

for frying mosquitos

[sage crag]

3 down 2 to go

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm, free protein

[sage crag]

i will employ ballistics

[tender river]

larger scale is needed for that

you wont get much protein from just a couple mosquitos

[sage crag]

why is it spinning

its evading me

[opaque sigil]

imagine having to deal with mosquitoes

[tender river]

thats what they do

[sage crag]

i live in south africa (lie)

[opaque wharf]

Siberian mfker

[sage crag]

ive misplaced a mosquito

[tender river]

i live in siberia

[sage crag]

this is deeply unsettling

[tender river]

and i do have to deal with mosquitoes

[opaque wharf]

Antartic mfker

[tender river]

but also in the city they wont bother you nearly as much as if you go into the fields

[sage crag]

londom also has no mosqutioes

[tender river]

when i was in vietnam in december i wasnt bothered by a single mosquito which i found weird

[sage crag]

too many emissions, they cant use CO2 to find people and just die

i thought i relocated mosquito 5 but it fled

[tender river]

fugitive mosquito

[sage crag]

moth

henlo moth

[tender river]

do you have your windows open

[sage crag]

i cannot reach them

guarded too well

i found hit and lost the fugitive mosquito

[tender river]

good luck

[trim valve]

if I leave my window open on the wrong day I get a dark haze on my ceiling due to bugs

[sage crag]

hblang yes

[sage crag]

sometimes there are none sometimes there are unending volumes

[tiny mango]

add a window screen ?

[sage crag]

this is what i was doing

[trim valve]

but that would solve the problem

and I'm British

so we just complain instead

[opaque sigil]

best investment i've made, my window is just perma open during summer

[rigid snow]

i have a screen on one of the windows but i never open that one, for some reason mosquitoes do not like me

[sage crag]

@tender river

[tender river]

i saw it

when i hit ^C python prints the exception and hides the numbers

[sage crag]

pipe python stderr to dev null

[rigid snow]

besides i have ac

[sage crag]

python wtf.py 2>/dev/null | pv -l > /dev/null

i guess

[opaque wharf]

The window on my room goes directly to the kitchen stove

[tender river]

this is all the proof i needed that python is faster than C

[sage crag]

the 6 second bench

[sage crag]

how does yes-hb hold up

it fits in a disk sector

[jagged turtle]

me when my code I knew should work doesn't work

how bro

[rigid snow]

what am i looking at

[tender river]

i guess i could run it through steam-run

[sage crag]

what

why

[jagged turtle]

idfk

[jagged turtle]

I used to write something much simpler and it worked

and then when I added another option it didn't

[sage crag]

youre using steam-run

oman

poghd

[opaque wharf]

yemen

[tender river]

im stupid

[sage crag]

hi stupid

[dry charm]

sometomes nix-ld just doesn't work

[tender river]

hi

[sage crag]

its a static binary

[tender river]

anyway steam-run doesnt affect performance

[jagged turtle]

???

I thought I chose dark mode not light mode

[opaque sigil]

i know this is probably unrelated but i hope you're aware you're making a full copy every time you do ...docsOptions

[sage crag]

seems the computer is the problem

[jagged turtle]

It doesn't work anyways so I'm probs gonna delete it

[tender river]

i ran it through ld-linux.so by habit but i forgot that nix's ld-linux.so is just a shim that complains that this is a bad binary

[rigid snow]

i propose a solution: nuke nix. dockerOS when?

[opaque wharf]

So LXC?

[sage crag]

it is a bad binary, its 500 bytes of pure ELF malice

[tender river]

its called ostree

[rigid snow]

white

[opaque sigil]

ostree

[rigid snow]

we don't need ostree when we have glorious docker

[opaque sigil]

one giant docker compose for the whole system

[jagged turtle]

why

[opaque wharf]

Sam is gone for a day and look what happened

[opaque sigil]

now i'm actually curious

how many containers can you throw into a compose file

[rigid snow]

the docker compose in question

services:
  system:
    build: .

[opaque wharf]

We have Nix at home. The Nix at home:

[jagged turtle]

yes

[opaque sigil]

looks like that is indeed the answer

[opaque sigil]

i wish i never picked up NixOS, ignorance is bliss

[jagged turtle]

I guess I have an excuse to run harmful files online now

[sage crag]

outplayed

trust my 350 byte binary

[jagged turtle]

snek

(yes I only just realised they had this tag)

[tender river]

bwabwabwa

i wonder what i should do

guess i'll start another language

(i have a bunch of stuff to do at home but im not at home atm)

[tender river]

ok smart konii give me another idea

[sage crag]

something something hblang

[tender river]

how am i supposed to implement an lsp without string constants smh

[sage crag]

you have string constants

[tender river]

lily.{log} = @use("lily")
X := "a"
main := fn(): uint {
    log.print(X)
    return 0
}

if only this worked....

[sage crag]

erm

ping mlokis

[tender river]

already did

its wip

[sage crag]

rip

maybe soon

[tender river]

mhm

any other ideas?

[sage crag]

orm

[tender river]

(also you should push lily at some point)

[sage crag]

0.2.0 branch

it exists

but im sitting on changes yeah

[tender river]

should i send prs to 0.2.0 or trunk

[sage crag]

0.2.0 has no features yet

so trunk i guess

i really should have moved trunk to 0.1.0 and started working on trunk

[tender river]

i'll just keep the extra functions in my tree until you're done

[sage crag]

oops

[tender river]

not too late for that

[opaque wharf]

Screeps

[tender river]

its $3.5 do i look like a millionaire to you

[opaque wharf]

And demolish Shiro while you're at it

[opaque wharf]

Well, there's always spacetraders.io too

[tender river]

i like how openai made chatgpt prompt the user

[opaque wharf]

Huh? What did they do now?

[real sierra]

I just got home

what's new

[real sierra]

I'd like to see you try*
-# *I have no units capable of combat

[tender river]

im so silly i cant believe the kind of ideas i have

[midnight sigil]

logic gate game

cool

[opaque wharf]

SAT solver: the game

[real sierra]

time to see how my screeps are doing

[opaque wharf]

They're all dead

You've failed them as their overlord

[real sierra]

they built all the roads and extensions needed

[tender river]

such a funny paragraph

[opaque wharf]

Chay, what is your opinion of this language? Will it be the next big thing?
https://github.com/TempTempai/AWA5.0/blob/main/Documentation/AWA5.0 Specification.pdf

[tender river]

my opinion is that im tired and wanna sleep

[amber fractal]

My opinion is Awa

[real sierra]

make sure to get your screeps going before bed so they make progress overnight

[tender river]

#programming message

[real sierra]

[hoary lion]

awawa

[tender geode]

Happy birthday 😄

[sage crag]

sorry this language is written in typescript

[tender river]

mrr

[sage crag]

p mrp meow

[hoary lion]

i have been seeing too much bayesian theory recently

my head hurts

everything seems to be some kind of intractable distribution

[real sierra]

this reads like a KTANE manual page

[tiny mango]

celebrate shiro day

[sage crag]

no

[real sierra]

i cant afford any more national holidays named after myself

[sage crag]

little known fact but every shiro day is funded by shiro

please donate

[unkempt citrus]

It's also everyday so it's very expensive

[gritty dust]

guys it happened

[unkempt citrus]

[gritty dust]

right now more people are more active in programming than general

yooo

[opaque wharf]

#programming when the Sam is gone

I didn't intend to write THE, but that works out fine too lol

[amber fractal]

Yeah seems about right that as soon as he leaves this place becomes lively

[opaque wharf]

But also increasingly cursed

[amber fractal]

No need to dumb down how cursed we are being

[opaque wharf]

Although to be fair, he did post cursed c++ too

[amber fractal]

I did my fair share of cursed today, but it is outside the field of programming for the moment

[opaque wharf]

Since when is #programming limited to just programming?

[amber fractal]

Since I decided to mash theoretical physics, magic, and extra dimensional horrors into one project.

Oh yeah, eventually I'm making this into a game engine

[opaque wharf]

Ahh, fighting the traditional rendering pipeline too I see

4D engine can also be used for NDimension btw

[amber fractal]

I'm not trying to expose the extra dimensionality of it much. What I am using it for is some convenient values and a very very fun way to bang my head against the wall.

We love walls of text

[opaque wharf]

"Convenient value" and "higher dimension" shouldn't belong in the same sentence

[amber fractal]

Yeah, I'm so fricked

[tiny mango]

not celebrate shiro day ?

[amber fractal]

That's normally done in the general chat whenever a wild Shiro~ spawns

[tiny mango]

:(

why are you doing virtualized atomic reduction in 4D?

sorry, 4D at minimu

-m

[amber fractal]

My usual dose of insanity

[tiny mango]

very millennial of you

hashtag we're all mad here

[tender river]

you will now have to live with this cursed knowledge https://hackage.haskell.org/package/plugins-1.6.2.1/docs/System-Eval-Haskell.html

[amber fractal]

You have no idea how much this made me age

I'm in gen Z smh

[tiny mango]

you can be millennial-core without being millennial

hashtag quirky, y'know?

[amber fractal]

I'll take it

[real sierra]

endless bug bashing in my screeps ai

builder ai was pretty buggy but thats a given since its the most complex

added some more statistics to track our energy expenditure too, not just gain

oh oh i have a fun programming problem

given a room with some impassable terrain and a few fixed exits along the extremities, it begs the question of where the best place might be to construct fortifications

there are probably chokepoints which would be more strategic and resource effective

in the past, my algorithm was to lean on pathfinding for this task

denote that a successful path ends within 4 tiles of any room exit tile

and then attempt to find such a path starting from the room controller

if it can be found, then place a wall on the end tile

otherwise we have all the required walls

this builds nice rectangular boxes around the map exits at a certain distance but its not super efficient

[opaque wharf]

Depends on the fortification overall cost. Not just in terms or resource but also to build it at that place (if its not done instantly)

[real sierra]

the answer is, it's complicated

[opaque wharf]

Indeed

[real sierra]

walls can technically be built "instantly"

but at 1hp

they must be repaired up to whatever health you desire

and then maintained, as they slowly lose hp over time naturally

[opaque wharf]

What is a good heuristic to determine the importance of passable terrain I wonder

[real sierra]

all good questions

actually

i just had a genius idea

holy crap

brain blast

here's the idea

[unkempt citrus]

Is it graphs

[real sierra]

nono

its very devious but im trying to figure out the details before i yap

[unkempt citrus]

[real sierra]

heres my room for example

the idea is

find a thin segment of the impassable terrain

adjacent the area you want to close off

define a start node and end node nearly adjacent each other

then set up pathfinding costs such that the tiles between the end and start are impassable

normally passable tiles are extremely high cost

and normally impassable tiles are relatively low cost

then pathfind from start to end

[opaque wharf]

So basically rather than checking out every advantageous combination, you pick one and then protect it

[real sierra]

iterate over all nodes in the path found, and any that are in normally passable squares need walls put in them

in my room, that path might look like this

where it is happy to cover long distances over the impassable terrain to get to small gaps in the passable terrain

[unkempt citrus]

So invert path finding

[real sierra]

yeah basically

would allow you to generate such a wall plan with a single pathfinding call

[unkempt citrus]

Then use an evaluating function or something to balance ratio of building to space protected?

[real sierra]

thats a good question

every room has a room controller, so i would probably just search for the nearest wall to that

and then start my pathfinding from there

its a central important structure

seems reasonable enough to ensure it's inside the wall

if roads are constructed to the other important locations before the wall is generated, you can put ramparts (doors) over existing/planned roads to effect egress

actually thats a tricky question, how to know where to put doors to avoid cutting off exits from yourself

the doors are much more costly so you want to minimize them for sure

[unkempt citrus]

Designated target areas that must be possible to path find to

And if the proposed walls violate that its invalid and a door is required

[real sierra]

minimal pathfinding calls would be ideal

pathfinding is pricy and im on a tight cpu budget

[unkempt citrus]

If you can map each stretch of wall, you could force one door in each stretch somewhere

[real sierra]

true

thats a valid option

[opaque wharf]

Oh, I got the algorithm now. You should also define a max span/length since it will break apart in an open field

Or not if you do want to block the entry/exit as closely as possible

[real sierra]

i don't follow, can you offer an example

[opaque wharf]

Will there ever be a case of room with open side?

[real sierra]

there are holes in the sides of rooms, these are how you navigate between rooms

im not sure if there are size constraints on them

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, that's what I meant earlier by open field. Basically no terrain wall. But I doubt it will happen

[real sierra]

i have found a small flaw in my plan

the end and start nodes are only separated by like 3 empty tiles max

so that'll be the shortest path most of the time

[opaque wharf]

Then specify the minimum length required

You could also do a little trolling by considering the tile near start/end a very high value

[real sierra]

true, maybe i can increase the price of empty tiles near the start/end

[unkempt citrus]

You'd define a space to wall length ratio in that case

And set a minimum

[real sierra]

finally got an implementation working

forgive my debug vis

[real sierra]

i dont think i can do that if i want to use the built-in pathfinding engine

it only offers facilities for specifying max size

maybe i should just set all structures as impassable

[tender river]

see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_network

[real sierra]

graph theory

turning this discrete map into a graph sounds like hell

[tender river]

its already a graph

no turning required

[real sierra]

that's not terrible

[real sierra]

    encloseAreaPath: function(room, startX, startY, innerDirection) {
        const costs = new PathFinder.CostMatrix;
        let terrain = room.getTerrain();
        for (let x = 0; x < 49; x++) {
            const xdif = Math.abs(x - startX);
            for (let y = 0; y < 49; y++) {
                if (terrain.get(x, y) & TERRAIN_MASK_WALL > 0
                    || _.filter(
                        room.lookForAt(LOOK_STRUCTURES, x, y),
                        (struct) => struct.structureType == STRUCTURE_RAMPART
                            || struct.structureType == STRUCTURE_WALL
                    ).length > 0) {
                    
                    costs.set(x, y, 1);
                } else {
                    const ydif = Math.abs(y - startY);
                    //room.createFlag(x, y, null, COLOR_YELLOW);
                    costs.set(x, y, Math.max(20, 255 - 40 * (xdif + ydif)));
                }
            }
        }
        for (const struct of room.find(FIND_MY_STRUCTURES).concat(
            room.find(FIND_STRUCTURES, {
                filter: (s) => s.structureType == STRUCTURE_ROAD
            })
            )) {
            costs.set(struct.pos.x, struct.pos.y, 255);
            costs.set(struct.pos.x, struct.pos.y+1, 255);
        }
        let x0 = startX;
        let x1 = startX;
        let y0 = startY;
        let y1 = startY;
        switch (innerDirection) {
            case 'left':
                for (let dx = 0; dx + startX < 50; dx++) {
                    //room.createFlag(dx+startX, startY, null, COLOR_RED);
                    costs.set(dx+startX, startY, 255);
                }
                y0 = startY + 1;
                y1 = startY - 1;
                break;
            case 'right':
                for (let dx = 0; dx + startX >= 0; dx--) {
                    //room.createFlag(dx+startX, startY, null, COLOR_RED);
                    costs.set(dx+startX, startY, 255);
                }
                y0 = startY - 1;
                y1 = startY + 1;
                break;
            case 'up':
                for (let dy = 0; dy + startY < 50; dy++) {
                    //room.createFlag(startX, dy+startY, null, COLOR_RED);
                    costs.set(startX, dy+startY, 255);
                }
                x0 = startX + 1;
                x1 = startX - 1;
                break;
            case 'down':
                for (let dy = 0; dy + startY >= 0; dy--) {
                    //room.createFlag(startX, dy+startY, null, COLOR_RED);
                    costs.set(startX, dy+startY, 255);
                }
                x0 = startX - 1;
                x1 = startX + 1;
                break;
        }
        const path = PathFinder.search(new RoomPosition(x0, y0, room.name), {pos: new RoomPosition(x1, y1, room.name), range: 0}, {
            roomCallback: (roomName) => costs,
            maxRooms: 1
        });
        return path.path;

[unkempt citrus]

All pathfinding is graph theory

What's changing

[slim marsh]

anyone majoring/working in data science ?

I have to get research papers and analyse them for my college project and Idk where to start

So if y'all know where to get new research papers and maybe some recommended topics to work on/analyse that would help me a ton

thank you, please dm me if you'd like to help !

[opaque wharf]

https://paperswithcode.com/

Also Kaggle and Huggingface

[real sierra]

the burst clock mechanism of screeps is really interesting

opens a lot of doors

[unkempt citrus]

Sci hub has a lot of papers

[opaque wharf]

Also means opens a lot of headache

[real sierra]

nah

its a huge enabler

it means i can run periodic expensive operations

even if they exceed my 30 CPU per-tick limit

[stark needle]

good morning

[real sierra]

gmgm

[stark needle]

how are u shiro

[real sierra]

not too bad

confusing myself with the Algorithms

turns out pathfinding for creating walls is kinda awkward

units can walk along diagonals

and since two diagonals can cross without intersecting

filling a diagonal with walls does not prevent a unit from walking through said wall

need to modify the wall placement code to address this

that way it fills all the gaps

[real sierra]

ok

they're making walls and stuff

thats enough screeps for tonight

brain off

[opaque wharf]

Hope you'll dreams of screeps

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

[slim marsh]

can i self promote

i want stars 😭 on my repo

small project i made for fun im just starting out 😭

[olive sable]

So...
Officialy according tonthe rules you cant

And rule 12 is no loopholes

But there is a loophole that people have use accidentaly

If you just talk about the topic of your repo, then posting your repo wont seem weird afterwards

The thing is, this ussualy wont give you stars

[opaque wharf]

I still haven't terrorize your repo... yet...

[olive sable]

You're free to do so

I will just deny all pr's that i dont like

[slim marsh]

oof

its just aesthetically pleasing i mean its nothing

it just prints a quote in your terminal

[olive sable]

[slim marsh]

yeh

theres a bug it works with vs code

so i call it a feature

ccuz its a termminal in the end so

[unkempt citrus]

also forgot to mention, I just finished my data analytics degree

well hopefully anyway

[slim marsh]

woah congratulations

[opaque wharf]

I should make a github actions that automate the whole process of terrorizing Sam repo

[olive sable]

You do you

I will just ignore the pr's

[dry charm]

just add sonar cloud with everything enabled

it'll be a nightmare

[fast pagoda]

huge

[true hemlock]

5950x - $276
7900 - $342
which one? what'd ya think?
already have AM4 mobos though. planning to get 2x32gb.

[stark needle]

can u calculate the statistical probability with big data of me touching grass

[unkempt citrus]

Only with sufficient prior data

but based on your behaviour, it is very low, though with a very wide 95% CI

[stark needle]

Can't wait to touch grass some day

[tender river]

why??? you dont have to have stars you know...

[slim marsh]

i mean everyone wants stars

[tender river]

who????

[ruby timber]

What do stars even do

references your repo better?

[tender river]

its like likes but on github

it pushes you in the recommendations algorithm and maybe search

thats it

for most people they wont get enough stars for it to matter

it will just be on their profile like "wow look this person has 5 stars on their project isnt that crazy" nobody cares

maybe employers do

(i dont think most employers care about github stars but maybe it can be a small bonus, not at the scale of 10 stars though)

[distant blaze]

its just vector maths,

if anything intersects the AB Vector from point A to B, then it shouldn't be allowed through.

AB is a multiplier so, if its a 2D vector, you can just tske the X coordinate and divide it by the X of AB vector with respect to A, if you do the same with Y and don't get the same result then you're not intersecting the wall and hence you're fine

if you are, then you need to be pushed away from the wall

[dawn garnet]

was getting real close to completing implementation of auto-saving for forms even when incomplete so they can be returned to and completed later

then docker just decided that it doesn't FEEL like keeping my containers running

Time to restart ma PC

[maiden geyser]

"ts pmo"💔

i have no idea where that dlmon4k react is

and it just sends me to random channels

[trim valve]

discord has a flawless mobile app with no bugs whatsoever

[dawn garnet]

Simple fact of life

[hallow aspen]

Simple fact of life

[maiden geyser]

Simple fact of life

[sage crag]

bwaa

[tender river]

bwa

[jagged turtle]

you can say that to most big-corpa mobile apps that connect to another server for text communication

like social media apps

[olive sable]

I have decided yall need to see the black mountain

[opaque sigil]

Idk doesn't seem very black to me

Pretty though

[olive sable]

Its indeed not black

Very pwetty

[ruby timber]

that's so pretty

[ruby timber]

I wanna jump in that water ngl

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

what if

Was a metaphorical piece of expressive art for all victims of the titanic that drowned and floated at the surface

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

And the artist wants to bring awareness to the cause by utilizing a well known online character

[olive sable]

Theres no wifi in the mountains so ill be going dark again

[opaque wharf]

Wait, you're on Phase Connect discord too?

[maiden geyser]

it seems so

i'm afking in vc rn

[opaque wharf]

Ahh, I only hangout in awawaland so maybe that's why I never see you

[ruby timber]

Is this going to be the pitch behind the NIUH coin?

[opaque wharf]

Enjoy the trip rather than playing with your phone at all times dude

[stark needle]

yes

[ruby timber]

I'm in

TO THE NIUH

[dusky jackal]

Is that your view? That’s pretty nice. I’d post mine too but I’m worried about getting doxxed.

[opaque wharf]

Only neuro could dox you from niche geographical feature

Or competitive geoguesser I guess

[dusky jackal]

Nah my view is a panoramic view of the town I live in and ocean, along with easily identifiable hills. that would be easy af to dox

[rigid snow]

he’s on vacation in croatia

[dusky jackal]

Oooh

[rigid snow]

living next to the sea/ocean must be really cool

[opaque wharf]

No

In fact it has very high humidity

[rigid snow]

i mean i have lived in those conditions for some amounts of time

it’s not bad

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm, maybe because I live in the equator too

[rigid snow]

no the humidity part is valid

totally

[opaque wharf]

Yeah but like, here it's all year long

[rigid snow]

i don’t mind it

[opaque wharf]

Either the humidity is high in sunny season or high af in rainy season

[rigid snow]

trust me it’s better to have high humidity when it’s hot than to have high humidity when it’s -15 celcius outside

[dusky jackal]

I guess yeah, I lived there nearly my whole life tho, I moved from Hollywood when I was like 2 and don’t remember much of what it was like to live inland. It does get humid tho

[rigid snow]

because the humidity makes it feel like -30

if not worse

[dusky jackal]

It depends where you live tbh

[rigid snow]

you don’t have -15 celsius outside in most places tbh

[dusky jackal]

idk kilometers sorry

[rigid snow]

5 degrees

[dusky jackal]

On the beach? Damn that’s cold af

It’s usually around like 70ish degrees where I’m at and it doesn’t change much from seasons.

[opaque wharf]

Mhmm, here we experience 30°C daily (around 90F?)

[rigid snow]

i mean it’s 1300 km to the closest sea from where i’m at so i wouldn’t know