programming

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, it may be because I have to repair my phone and it didn't seal properly so the lens got effed

[fast pagoda]

my favourite home meal to make

curry with panko breaded cutlet

so ez

so good

[rigid snow]

oh shit that’s chicken

i thought that was sauce or something

[wary rover]

So serde_json can work without a "saving" data into some JSON file and can work as a "println!" for struct fields?

[fast pagoda]

the breadiest sauce

[fast pagoda]

it can operate on any struct you have in memory

doesnt have to load it from elsewhere

[wary rover]

Mhmm

[opaque wharf]

My camera cooked it so well that the chicken liquidate lol

[sage crag]

most used serde crate

[wary rover]

Seems like I am not a target audience for tutorials yet

[sage crag]

would you rather they used serde_bincode

at least json is "human readable"

[fast pagoda]

also you can't just println! a custom struct, u would have to add like #[derive(Debug)] to it, and then print it like println!("{:?}", my_struct);

[rigid snow]

it’s so you can do things to the json

[wary rover]

I am not saying that what they do is wrong, I am just confused how did something they made works

Was confused*

[rigid snow]

like setting arbitrary fields or whatever

[fast pagoda]

it's basically like pretty print for ur structs

[wary rover]

Fair enough

[opaque sigil]

that would imply it prints it to the console which it doesn't, it only converts between the rust structs and strings

[fast pagoda]

those screenshots didnt show it

but there has to be a print somewhere

like println!("{}", dog_ser.unwrap()); off screen in those screenshots

that's why it's printing it

[opaque sigil]

yea

[wary rover]

Yes, it has. I just didnt understand how the whole thing works, so I was like "this thingy here does this thingy there. How?"

[fast pagoda]

lol yeah at first it can look like it's summoning json from the ether

[wary rover]

Precisely my thought

[cunning gyro]

No programmer knows how anything works. They mash buttons and hope it works through sheer force of will

[fast pagoda]

that's why im out here mainlining python usually

just keep running it

[opaque wharf]

So here is the thing that you need to understand

There is in memory representation of the data

[wary rover]

That's what I do

[opaque sigil]

90% of the actual work is delegated to serde so you'll have to dig into that to properly understand

[opaque wharf]

And then there's storage representation

In memory representation is what your program usually understands and can manipulate

While storage representation may or may not be modifiable without turning it into in memory representation first

A struct is just a memory representation

But when you need to store/send the struct somewhere else, you can't simply send the memory representation (its complicated)

[wary rover]

I took a step back, read a portion of Rust, the Book, fixed some issues in the code I threw together haphazardly as new layers of understanding arose in my brain, then after reading some more I understood, that my code was shit and it will never work, so I deleted everything related to "collection" function and started anew

So now I am "digging into that"

[opaque sigil]

making progress

[opaque wharf]

Btw the process of converting between the representation is Serialization and Deserialization

So serde

[wary rover]

Mhm, got that

Btw, can you apply serde to function output? Like can you tell it: "Look at this function, it outputs an Enum variant. Take this variant, convert it to string and save to JSON file"? I will not do it like that, but I am generally curious

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[olive sable]

@nocturne olive

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

Man im dead

[opaque wharf]

But in general, maybe people that are more familiar with language design and type system will know

Because who knows if there is some in-memory representation by a program that can't actually be converted to and from other representation

[opaque sigil]

serde is incredibly flexible so chances are whatever you want to do is possible

[opaque wharf]

Sleep at the seller house

[opaque sigil]

with the * of you might have to write a custom (de)serialiser

[olive sable]

Really really friendly people, gave me a bitle of water, but no

I wanne go home

[opaque wharf]

Request for helicopter

[wary rover]

Initiate fast travel

[nocturne olive]

The 3090 has been sillied

[fast pagoda]

does this mean you bought one

[nocturne olive]

That one is for me

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

Superbox gave me the money i need for it

[opaque wharf]

Now sam can game on it

[olive sable]

And now im sending it to him

[fast pagoda]

dang so that's why you went on this journey

[opaque wharf]

[fast pagoda]

you have to go back on the train and bus with that thing

damn

[nocturne olive]

All for the NeuroSynth

[olive sable]

Yep

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/chasing-escape-stealing-walking-away-leggo-my-eggo-gif-14823235

[opaque wharf]

Is the seller live in the middle of nowhere?

[olive sable]

4 hours back

[olive sable]

Kinda, liege is a big city but he lives on the complete edge

[fast pagoda]

my guy traversed the schengen area for that 3090

[opaque wharf]

Because that may have been why no one has come and get it even after 1 week

[olive sable]

Exactly that

The ones selling for 800 were in antwerp and shit

This guy is in wherever the fuck i am rn

Seraing

[nocturne olive]

I guess nobody wanted the 3090 so now it's going to the NeuroSynth training

[olive sable]

It came with an anti sag bracket

[fast pagoda]

3090 had a nice country life

[opaque wharf]

More like nobody is dedicated enough to get it lol

[fast pagoda]

now it's time for the gulag

[olive sable]

Bro said his last asus died after a year cuz of no sag bracket

Wonky asus

[fast pagoda]

are you in luxembourg

[olive sable]

No

[fast pagoda]

close to it tho

NA edumacation

[nocturne olive]

Silly
I have no clue how those things are meant to be installed

[olive sable]

The city liege, is in the province thats also named liege

Which is in belgium

[opaque wharf]

Just place the PC sideways a la server

[fast pagoda]

have atlas do it

[olive sable]

It has a book for how to instal it

[opaque wharf]

Can't have sagging if the gravitational pull is the one connecting the PCIe

[fast pagoda]

not the shagging

[nocturne olive]

Well, my 3090 is gonna be basically at the bottom of the case, so there's not really much space to put stuff under it
And above it is gonna be the 4070Ti

[opaque wharf]

Wait how do I spell it again?

[fast pagoda]

sagging

lol

[fast pagoda]

heat blaster 9000

[opaque wharf]

Ahhh of course. I am too tired after cooking lol]

[nocturne olive]

I guess so, but it's gonna be great for training

And I have a 1000W PSU so I assume I have enough power to spare between the GPUs

[stray dragon]

that sounds like the job for a small bit of cardboard lol

[fast pagoda]

i was gonna post this other atlas gpu bracket but whoever modeled that one has him .... immodest

[opaque wharf]

What CPU?

Because it may not be enough

[nocturne olive]

12700K

[fast pagoda]

wew

that'll be close

[nocturne olive]

280 + 350 + 190 or something for the two GPUs and CPU

[fast pagoda]

undervolt

[nocturne olive]

I have no clue how, at least not on Linux

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, 350 + 285 + 190 plus some headroom for spike

[stray dragon]

3090 can have power spikes

[olive sable]

2 french girls are asking about when the bus will get here. Idk bro, i dont live here

[opaque wharf]

This

[fast pagoda]

you'd be at normal ~825-850w and spike would be cutting it close

[opaque wharf]

So it's close and may have some instability

[fast pagoda]

the rails will not be happy

[nocturne olive]

My PSU should be one of those ATX 3.0 ones that are certified to deal with power spikes up to double their capacity

[fast pagoda]

they want ur gpu

run

[opaque sigil]

only one way to find out

[fast pagoda]

rtx 5090 certified fire-free

[stray dragon]

oh you should be fine then

[opaque wharf]

Ma boi Sam got a chance

[stray dragon]

probably

[olive sable]

Im using 750w for a 3090 and 5950x.

[olive sable]

Im not gonna date people i cant understand

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, cpu cooler not included and his HDD

[fast pagoda]

5950x is more efficient than a 12700k i think

[stray dragon]

the 5950x is only 105W, the 12700k is 190W

[nocturne olive]

Originally I had 850W but I upgraded it since I was gonna make a different dual-GPU configuration, but I guess instead of that it'll be 3090 + 4070Ti

[opaque wharf]

Oh, I though it will be because they are Fr*nch

[stray dragon]

intel cpus have silly power requirements

[fast pagoda]

intel has been just gas pedal down jamming power into the sand

[opaque sigil]

the funny thing is that the 5950X says it's 105W, it will NEVER use that much

[fast pagoda]

because they forgor how to be competitive any other way

[opaque sigil]

i think they usually draw like 160?

[nocturne olive]

Usually it tops out at 125W under all-core loads though

[olive sable]

Im not racerist. Just bad at french

[stray dragon]

interesting

[nocturne olive]

At least under a stress test running Windows that's what happened

[stray dragon]

assuming you meant to say 60, that checks out

[nocturne olive]

Though now I'm on Linux

[opaque sigil]

no i meant 160

[opaque wharf]

As an Asian I find the French hate on the internet funny, because we at SEA are the most toxic online bunch

Because people IRL didn't really hate each other from SEA

[stray dragon]

oh

[opaque wharf]

But hop on to any game, and slurs starts flying

[stray dragon]

thought "it will NEVER use that much" meant it used less not more

[fast pagoda]

so did i at first

5950x can take some juice if needed

[opaque sigil]

amd's numbers are weird

[fast pagoda]

kek at 10900k

[olive sable]

I dont hate most people, but i like clowning on the english and english--

[fast pagoda]

as an american i mostly clown on americans

it's so easy

[olive sable]

Im so hungy

[opaque wharf]

See my curry picture so you feel depressed instead

[fast pagoda]

i miss food in japan so bad
was talking about it earlier with my therapist (lule)
also went to kura yesterday
and now you post curry

[stray dragon]

personally they seem fine? my ryzen 9 9900x is rated for 120W, but with a minecraft server that uses nearly 100% of one of the cores all the time, it seems to use about 70W continuous (reducing the max TDP to 65W didn't lower the power usage much)

i imagine full-core load would be about 120W

[opaque sigil]

i wanna say they updated the tdp to be more accurate with zen 4 but i'm not 100% on that

[fast pagoda]

ive never actually bothered to check the power draw of my 5900x

[opaque sigil]

or zen 5 idk

one of the two

my 5900X usually sucks up 140W under load

[stray dragon]

i just have my computer connected to a kill-a-watt all the time

[stray dragon]

damn!!!

ok then

[opaque wharf]

What is kill-a-watt?

[fast pagoda]

but my 5900x and 3080 somehow manage to cause my psu (the one in the pc rn is 850w to be replaced by the 1300w one when i finally get parts ) to cut out if i run something like llm training for a long time

[fast pagoda]

measures power draw

[opaque wharf]

Ahhh, power meter

[olive sable]

Its about 95w most of the time on heavybload for my 5950x
So idd guess 90

[stray dragon]

a little device that goes between the outlet and the plug and can tell you the voltage, amperage, average power draw, kilowatt-hours used since a time

[nocturne olive]

That seems a little strange, I guess must be power spikes

[fast pagoda]

i think the psu is just underperforming or faulty in some way

but only manifests at peak draw

[opaque wharf]

Don't cheap out on PSU

[fast pagoda]

i didn't

[olive sable]

The 5900x shouldnt use use 140 should it???

[opaque wharf]

Again, AMD numbers can be weird

[stray dragon]

psu tierlist my beloved

[opaque sigil]

this is while compiling ffmpeg (i have pbo on hence the extra 20W or so)

[opaque wharf]

Thank god for more certification now since 80+ platinum could be meaningless now

Meaningless as in, the efficiency of power supply design is mostly a solved problem. So most PSU could pass the efficiency test with flying colors

[fast pagoda]

this is the PSU that dies https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020180-na/rmx-series-rm850x-850-watt-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-psu-cp-9020180-na?srsltid=AfmBOoo4lGidEXgH-8QoSlIfK1xDvKIxh3tacvyx3uRpfOrDnvQ3a_MP

[olive sable]

Thanks google maps
Wait here 30min, or walk 30 min to the next stop of the same bus

[opaque sigil]

that's impressive that you managed to kill a rm850x

those things are hella overspecced usually

[olive sable]

I have the 750w version of this i think

[fast pagoda]

yeah i have no idea why it's like this

[opaque wharf]

Maybe you want the exercise

[olive sable]

I dont

I need to go to the bathroom, and walking wont help

[opaque wharf]

Is it the one that pass platinum cert but still marketed as gold?

[opaque wharf]

Bushes

[fast pagoda]

i purchased this thing

still waiting to use it

it is covered in clothes in the corner of my office rn

[opaque wharf]

Btw, LTT lab is now quite usable too albeit with smaller database
https://www.lttlabs.com/categories/power-supplies

[fast pagoda]

FSP is a good oem

i hadnt heard of them till recently

[nocturne olive]

And of course it has two of those useless 12VHPWRs

[opaque sigil]

i can't say i've ever heard of them

[opaque wharf]

They are quite popular here because it's cheap and good

[nocturne olive]

At most you need like one of them, dual GPU with 12VHPWR GPUs doesn't make sense

[fast pagoda]

i bought it for atx3.0 with the HPWR actually

[nocturne olive]

Unless it's 3090 Ti

[fast pagoda]

back when i thought perhaps they maybe actually fixed the issue

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-gta-san-andreas-gta-sa-san-andreas-respect-plus-gif-23799596

[opaque sigil]

it makes more sense than 1 so hopefully they'll at the very least make their next top cards use 2 of them

[olive sable]

Its one with 3x 8 pin btw

[nocturne olive]

Well, who knows
But the annoying thing is that it's making PSUs with a lot of 8-pins hard to find

[olive sable]

Unless you want to trade with mine

[nocturne olive]

I know what the 3090 has

[olive sable]

There are some with 2 x 8pin

Like mine

[fast pagoda]

the 1350w isnt on the tier list but the ones under this one are A+

so i was sold

[opaque sigil]

do they not have adapters that let you break up a 12v-2x6 into multiple pcie

[rough bloom]

the 3090 FE has 12VHPWR

[rough bloom]

they do

[nocturne olive]

It's not 12VHPWR, it's the Nvidia 12-pin

[fast pagoda]

if only the GPU had pcie connectors

[nocturne olive]

No sense pins

[fast pagoda]

and yeah the 3090 one isn't hpwr

it's a bastard child

[olive sable]

If this bus doesnt get here soon im fucked

[opaque sigil]

on the psu side?

[rough bloom]

on the GPU side

[opaque wharf]

Surprise camping

[opaque sigil]

i was talking about the other way around

[rough bloom]

[opaque sigil]

split the 600W into multiple 8 pin cables ones

[rough bloom]

mabe, I guess if a manufacturer feels like it
but I think they could just put the connectors on the PSU itself instead

[nocturne olive]

I think I heard someone say that would be a bad idea

[rough bloom]

some third-party seller probably has an adapter though

[opaque sigil]

tbf idk how much space the 12v-2x6 port even takes up, maybe it is easier for them to just put more 8 pin ones instead

[fast pagoda]

it's just that easy

[nocturne olive]

Now make it more clean and make it an actual product

[opaque sigil]

i guess if there's ever any demand they can just make those cables

[opaque wharf]

The problem with 12VHPWR is the connector

[rough bloom]

is it actually different? I know that it's pre-standardization in the PCIe spec and that it's before 12V-2x6, but I thought it was practically identical

[opaque sigil]

i don't see why they couldn't

[stray dragon]

could have gone with the Adata Cybercore 1300W for much less, no? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2BBG3C/adata-xpg-cybercore-1300-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cybercore1300-bkcus

[fast pagoda]

yeah but fusing it would at least trip the fuse before it caught fire (ideally)

[fast pagoda]

when i bought there was no stock

[stray dragon]

rip

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[fast pagoda]

because i thought i'd be buying a gpu imminently at the time

LULE

[opaque sigil]

the 3090 has no sense pins iirc

[rough bloom]

I have answered my question, I am not going insane, it is practically 12VHPWR

[opaque wharf]

Man, I think I'm going to sleep first. Good night all

[fast pagoda]

who's going in business w/ me

[rough bloom]

yeah, shittier cable and connector and no sense pins

[fast pagoda]

gn

[nocturne olive]

Perfection

[stray dragon]

was wondering how the hell those cables were cabling and then realized it was edited lol

[fast pagoda]

magic

[stray dragon]

generating twice the cables per cable lol

[fast pagoda]

AI will figure it out - jensen

alright

i have optimized

the page

it's still a bit laggy to drag LULE

[uneven pulsar]

I hate Minecraft server api b###s###

[olive sable]

Bus is finally here

Almost died inside

[fast pagoda]

i wish on my way home from work i wasn't driving

and could just sit on a bus or train

[olive sable]

Barely missed the train, fuck

There's anothe one but now i have to wait here an hour

[rough bloom]

more time to read about Vulkan

[olive sable]

Nah this train station is sketchy asf

Def a place where they do business

[tiny mango]

start your own business while there!

[olive sable]

Im not starting in that type of business

[tender river]

@sage crag wait

does hblang exist?

https://cacm.acm.org/research/a-few-billion-lines-of-code-later/

[trim valve]

mhm thanks windows

[tender river]

peer pressure ignorant people

[minor crag]

I hate npm

It just doesn't work

[sage crag]

the hblang compiler exists

hblang itself exists as much as any other programming language i suppose

[rough bloom]

the reference compiler defines the language

[olive sable]

Made my train
It has power outlets

Im not completely fucked

[sage crag]

even if something is defined it may not exist

the empty set is defined, but does the empty set exist?

that's more of a philosophical question than an empirical one though...

[rough bloom]

I think for concepts like languages just being defined is enough to count as "existing"
but yeah, this seems very philosophical

[tender river]

konii

[sage crag]

yesh that's me

also hello world in 179 bytes

[tender river]

you're safe for now

[sage crag]

what

[tender river]

nothing

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

[tender river]

welcome to langdev
we have
lexing (somewhat solved problem)
parsing (unsolved problem)
code analysis (unsolved problem)
codegen (unsolved problem)
optimization (unsolved problem)
codegen (unsolved problem)
codegen (unsolved problem)
codegen (unsolved problem)
code analysis (unsolved problem)

[olive sable]

Sam (causes problems)

[sage crag]

solving optimisation would be the same as solving the halting problem

[amber fractal]

triple codegen is so real

[amber fractal]

Iggly (Is the reason most of these are unsolved)

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

bun

[hard raptor]

How bout:
Emewie (is the problems themselves)

[olive sable]

Cuz this trip is so long i have listened to 80 songs. So about 240minutes or 4 hours

[stark needle]

[inner pike]

Shadow ( Is a femboy )

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

-# Any Machine love or NeuroSynth in there?

[stark needle]

?????? Nuh

[sour harness]

Claude wtf...

I think Claude really wants a friend

[stark needle]

You are not interested in WHAT-

[hard raptor]

I am more an enjoyer of gemini myself

[stark needle]

Gemini is good but makes so many assumptions

It assumes ur the dumbest most ignorant person on earth

[opaque wharf]

Use pnpm

[hard raptor]

So you are telling it to be interested in friends but not allowing it to be interested in anything else, causing it to have nothing to bond over

[olive sable]

Im not sure tbh about neurosynth. But no machine love

[opaque wharf]

I thought you were talking about No Machine by Imagine Dragons for a sec

[olive sable]

Just not my style of music

We live train internet

[opaque wharf]

Or is it the machine?

[olive sable]

Bruh that took a min to send

[olive sable]

Machine love by the people that made neurosynth

No wifi...

[opaque wharf]

Sad Machine - Porter Robinson

[olive sable]

I know porter robinson

I think i know the song too

[nocturne olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jWOyIcKz98 <-- Machine love

[olive sable]

I will send the 3090 after im back from vacation ok?

[nocturne olive]

How long is that then?

[olive sable]

Im back 11/7

So 2 weeks ig

[nocturne olive]

That's a while, and we have a new dataset update coming some time soon ish

[olive sable]

I would send it tomorrow if the post office was open on sunday

Or ill have to ask my mom to send it ig

Ill see

[nocturne olive]

I guess I'll just wait or something

[autumn ore]

@fast pagoda nice updates

[rigid snow]

bwabwabwabwabwabwa

[autumn ore]

Just woke up I will work on it ina. Hour

[opaque wharf]

People sleep schedule here is wild af

[olive sable]

Yep

I havent slept in 37

Hours

[fast pagoda]

ohh yeah is server back up pog

i am currently separating it into something more structured

[opaque wharf]

Longest I didn't sleep was in highschool, and it was around 54 hours IIRC. Would not recommend doing that.

[rigid snow]

what the fuxk

[opaque wharf]

It was a different times yes. I was young and full of energy

[fast pagoda]

/viewport-canvas branch just fixes al lot of the standard performance stuff then /viewport-canvas-refactor is where it was bothering me that script.js was almost 1000 llines

so it's separated more sanely

[maiden geyser]

what the helly

[stark needle]

bwabwabwabwabwa!!!!!!!!!??!+?!

[rigid snow]

is valve stupid, my brother got a steam deck oled and... they ship a special oobe branch of the os that downloads the current update. which would be fine if it worked but like it's miserable, it straight up silently refuses to work and freezes the install process if it doesn't like the wifi connection even a tiny bit

they ship a special oobe branch of the os
why is this a thing in the first place

[tender river]

steam os uses an immutable root afaik which makes sense

[opaque wharf]

So they don't have to unpack the already packaged unit

[tender river]

they get the latest updates of arch but they test everything before pushing it to users

[rigid snow]

but why not just ship an old update instead of the special oobe branch?

[tender river]

and since they update the entire image (atomically, hopefully) theres no issues like kernel not installing because of a power outage

[rigid snow]

they do that still

[opaque wharf]

In theory, it should act like an installer (maybe that's what they're after)

[rigid snow]

it's not exclusive to oobe, it's just how updates work

on steamos

[opaque wharf]

But if they botched it, then yeah, OOBE will not be great anyhow

[tender river]

the two are equivalent, an old release is a custom branch

but also when they need to patch something they can just do it without waiting for arch to do it

if you want to just use plain arch or something you can do it but they dont want users making their system slightly broken by installing random untested system packages

anyway the issue in your particular case seems that steamos doesn't handle poor connection well, which is fair criticism (not that i have ever used it) but isn't really related to it being an arch spinoff

[rigid snow]

to be clear, what i mean by special oobe branch is: it doesn't have anything, super stripped down. the only things you can do is choose the language, choose the timezone, connect to wifi, install current steamos version

[tender river]

oh

i see what you mean

in that case i think it's because shipping a full OS is bad for security

[rigid snow]

i didn't say it had to do anything with arch

[tender river]

i just misunderstood you

[tender river]

imagine if there was a security issue found in the browser or something

[rigid snow]

oh yeah there is still a browser to open steam support and the pdf manual

that's the end of the features

[tender river]

anyway, the thing they ship from the factory will be potentially used years down the line, they want to be extra sure it keeps working and that's why it's so minimal

[rigid snow]

makes sense

[tender river]

i dont think there are many other reasons

[olive sable]

I wish my phone had decimals for the battery

Integers are cringe

[rigid snow]

hear me out, an infinitely zoomable progress bar

[olive sable]

Ehhh...

Idk

[opaque sigil]

You sound like a tc39 committee member (JS)

[rigid snow]

Math.floor(Math.floor(Math.floor(Math.floor(Math.floor(

[olive sable]

If it has autoscroll maybe

But it cant be sybmnced with the progress bar, it needs to scroll in batches

[fading blaze]

So my uncle pushed me to learn another AI development tool

umm

So I was writing one of those "codepoint viewers" in Vanilla JS

[opaque wharf]

You mean unicode code point?

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

i was today years old when i learned that read() has a buffer attached to the process in the kernel

so its queued

[fading blaze]

Yes

[rigid snow]

24/7 livestream of my battery level (it is autoscrolled)

[sage crag]

how many bytes do you think it is

[fading blaze]

So I made this just through my own fingies and brain

[opaque wharf]

Congrats

[opaque sigil]

idk, 300 maybe?

[fading blaze]

I like the periodic table aesthetic

[sage crag]

why is everyone here good at this

296

[tender river]

i did it first via async

[fading blaze]

so I wanted to see what this AI tools would come up with

[opaque sigil]

oh damn

[opaque wharf]

Salaam

[tender river]

but async is the opposite of size optimization

[sage crag]

you did, but i did it cooler

[opaque wharf]

That reads salaam right?

[fading blaze]

What the hell is this?

[fading blaze]

I think so. I don't speak Arabic

[tender river]

yippie

[sage crag]

it just gives names to characters based on their codepoint

[fading blaze]

It's just arabic likes breaking text rendering

[fading blaze]

No it doesn't

so it takes two arguments. the character and the codepoint of the character

[tender river]

paamayim nekudotayim

[fading blaze]

I do actually speak hebrew

because... idk why it needs both of them

[sage crag]

because the code is bad

[tender river]

php

[fading blaze]

Yes I know the code is bad

[sage crag]

i mean it literally does though. it labels special characters.

[fading blaze]

Yeah it's because there was an old PHP interpreter that came from {Filtered} company

[sage crag]

and it also classifies whether something is an emoji or a standard char

[fading blaze]

Except it decides that everything in the astral planes is an emoji

[sage crag]

most things in unicode are "emoji"

this will label anything that isnt a single byte character as an emoji

[opaque wharf]

Why you gotta put it like that man. Now it will live rent-free in my head

[sage crag]

so basically any non-ascii chars

[fading blaze]

Well I guess there are 1048576 emoji according to the "codepoint ≥ 0x10000" definition

[sage crag]

all this code does is check if something uses multiple bytes in its codepoint or not

[fading blaze]

yes and it also tells you if something is an ascii space

[sage crag]

[0xF0, 0x9F, 0x98, 0x8A, 'a', 's', 'd']
is 😊asd. the emoji takes up four bytes.

[fading blaze]

why not do char.match(/\p{Zs}/)?

[fading blaze]

Javascript is UTF-16

So everything from U+0000 to U+FFFF counts as one character

and everything U+10000 and above is 2

[sage crag]

same deal though.

[sage crag]

yes, it's the same deal

[fading blaze]

But I don't think this is an emoji

[sage crag]

classic javascript, use regex to check if character is a separator

[opaque wharf]

UTF is just how you encode things

[fading blaze]

Do you have a better way?

[sage crag]

just leave it as it is?

[fading blaze]

you mean just check if it's ' '?

[opaque wharf]

Fun question would be, should regex digit match other script digit

[fading blaze]

There's more than one space character in Unicode

[fading blaze]

I mean... yeah?

[sage crag]

yes, i know, thanks

[opaque wharf]

You'd think so

[fading blaze]

The real question is, should literals be allowed to use non-maghreb digits

[fading blaze]

My point is this code is really dumb

[sage crag]

if you want to do it in as few lines as possible, i would check whitespace with /\s/.test(char)

[fading blaze]

ok but that's not unicode aware

[sage crag]

sure, use /^\p{Zs}$/u.test(char) then

[tender river]

it is

[fading blaze]

Wait it is

[opaque wharf]

But it doesn't

[sage crag]

it uses anything that javascript classifies as whitespace

[wary rover]

ying yang screenshots

[tender river]

\d isnt \s

[sage crag]

different thread of convo

[fading blaze]

use \p{Nd}

[tender river]

bwa

[sage crag]

bwa

[opaque wharf]

What?

I am talking about regex and matching other script digit

[olive sable]

Bwaa

[opaque wharf]

Sleep you magnificent bastard

[sage crag]

you should be able to omit the d

[fading blaze]

Yes and I am telling you how to match other script's digits

[olive sable]

Im still on the train bro

[fading blaze]

that would match vulgar fractions and stuff

like ½

[olive sable]

1/2 is a beatifull fraction tho

[sage crag]

use regex101

[olive sable]

½

Huh

[opaque wharf]

Needs to turn on unicode

with /u flag

[fading blaze]

the thing with \d is let's say you write the following code

function parse_digits(str){
  arr=[];
  for (char of str){
    if(char.match("\d")){
      arr.append(char.charcodeAt(0)-48);
    } else {
      throw "Invalid Digit";
    }
  }
  return arr;
}

[tender river]

isdecimal isdigit isnumeric

[fading blaze]

and every person that calls it just assumes it always returns an array of numbers between 0 and 9

an attacker can just cause an overflow using non-ascii digits

if \d could match non-ascii digits

[sage crag]

i think using regex in any kind of security sensitive context is a mistake to begin with

[olive sable]

Regex is the work of pure evil

[opaque wharf]

The ungodly email regex

[fading blaze]

I mean a function like that probably isn't used by competent devs

[fast pagoda]

winget randomly uninstalled itself

that was strange

[olive sable]

[fading blaze]

Like the lack of unicode support isn't the worst of this code's problems

IDK maybe I am just bad at prompting which is why I always get shit code from LLMs

[tender river]

look at copilot sending prs to dotnet

LLMs dont make good code, their strong suite is being able to program at all and being able to do it at scale/speed incomparable to a human

[fading blaze]

I know that

[olive sable]

Wtf is soy ink??

[opaque wharf]

Sam is getting bored lol

[fading blaze]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_ink

[fading blaze]

I am still annoyed I can't find a decent way to look up unicode character properties

[tender river]

ship a wasm python interpreter and use unicodedata, duh

[autumn ore]

@fast pagoda server back up

[sage crag]

im in a state where im making things and just adding syscalls to the new arch stuff

wanna sleep 100ms? sure
_ = arch.sys.nanosleep(.(0, 100000000), null)

i actually have only implemented these ones so far

$sys_read: u32 = 0x0
$sys_write: u32 = 0x1
$sys_nanosleep: u32 = 0x23
$sys_mmap: u32 = 0x9
$sys_mremap: u32 = 0x19
$sys_munmap: u32 = 0xB
$sys_exit: u32 = 0x3C
$sys_exit_group: u32 = 0xE7
$sys_getrandom: u32 = 0x13E

[opaque sigil]

Hey could be worse, my wave link has the tendency to uninstall itself while I'm gone

Konii about to implement every single syscall

[sage crag]

hmmm no

user@linux ~/c/lily-0.2.0 (trunk)> grep 'NR' /usr/include/asm/unistd_64.h --color=always | wc --lines
380

there are only about 380

ignore the colour im using it in less

its so useful

[rigid snow]

after 8 hours of doing some cursed rituals it still has not updated properly. fuck it i'm trying the steamos image directly from a usb

still have to wait for that to download

[autumn ore]

@fast pagoda @amber fractal I FIXED RENDERING

ITS SMOOTH AS BUTTER

[rigid snow]

[amber fractal]

[autumn ore]

lemme record

mouse imputs are off for some reson tho

[tender river]

i'm waiting for some bugfixes and then i'll continue working on epoll stuff

[sage crag]

wahoo

[tender river]

(make the code nicer and then begin work on parsing json rpc)

[fast pagoda]

whoaaa

[tender river]

rare footage of konii being british

or australian (i think they use the same spelling)

[fading blaze]

Hey it's better than the hack I came up with

I mean nothing is stopping me from writing a python script to convert UnicodeData.txt to a big javascript file

[tender river]

reading this https://matklad.github.io/2023/05/21/resilient-ll-parsing-tutorial.html
and this rn https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2020/automatic_syntax_error_recovery.html

[rigid snow]

chayleaf official twitter page

[sage crag]

hnow the frigg did you find ouyt

[tender river]

i actually have fedi

[rigid snow]

you don't need it you use #programming anyways

[tender river]

i do

[sage crag]

what did you do to her

[tender river]

[sage crag]

i should probably push my changes to a branch but like

i havent reimplemented anything yet ive just been code golfing

[tender river]

i've just been breaking the compiler

[sage crag]

real

i havent run into many breakages recently

its been getting more stable which is good

[stark needle]

koniii

[sage crag]

shadowbwaalac

[stark needle]

Hatsune Miku does NOT talk to you

!!!!

[stark needle]

classic british L

[tender river]

it's okay konii i can talk to you instead

i talk to british people surprisingly often actually it's somewhat uncanny

[opaque sigil]

My condolences

[sage crag]

me, the voices in my head, the voices in your head, nesus2, the voices in nesus2's head

[uneven pulsar]

do they listen

[tender river]

i'm not ready for nesus2

[sage crag]

me neither

[rigid snow]

🐟 🐟

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

saba

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

she ate the fish

[uneven pulsar]

fish n chips a la vedal!

[tender river]

thinking about read/write, maybe these functions should be defined for whatever has a fd method?

[sage crag]

i could be a fish

[tender river]

very fishy of you

[olive sable]

Im home

[sage crag]

that would make sense for readers and writers

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

slight problem with aos support tho

[sage crag]

will probably figure something out

[tender river]

mrhm

[sage crag]

aos will have fds, they wont be the same as sysv fds tho

mostly ok, can handle it in target

reasons for target and arch separation

[tender river]

i guess i can use file objects so i can do stream.file.read() instead of something like read(stream.fd) or File(stream.fd).read

[sage crag]

im not sure how much it matters for you to care abt lily parity

since i likely wont write an async fs impl for lily

[tender river]

async files are just regular files but you retry after EAGAIN

you use all the same read/write syscalls

[sage crag]

i see

how about io uring?

[tender river]

thats a bit special since you give kernel ownership over your memory or somethnig

[sage crag]

in that case i would appreciate you maintain something similar to lily then

ig

[tender river]

dont care about supporting that since epoll will probably work just fine and io-uring is newer and slightly less supported

[sage crag]

i was thinking something but i stopped

[tender river]

oh wait i forgor theres some reason tokio reads Files using threads instead of epoll

uuh might want to look into that

[sage crag]

oh right

[rigid snow]

THERE IS NO WAY the official valve guide lists balenaetcher as the only way to flash steamos to a thumb drive (on macos) AND https://forums.balena.io/t/flashing-never-goes-above-0/368710 this is a fucking thing

[sage crag]

do you read eagain from errno

[sage crag]

balena etcher is just a standard iso flasher

u could use dd, gnome flasher, etc

[rigid snow]

i know i can, also it's not an iso it's a raw img

but whatever

[tender river]

i just check the syscalls' return code is there errno without libc (im clueless)

[sage crag]

i looked into it because i was annoyed

apparently you need to expose an __errno_location(): ^i32 function

[rigid snow]

i'm just shook by the fact that the official guide says "use this" and it hasn't been working for the past 3 years

[sage crag]

which returns some ptr to an errno global

[stark needle]

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/windows/microsoft-says-that-windows-11-pcs-are-up-to-2-3x-faster-than-windows-10-pcs-neglecting-to-mention-that-its-comparing-apples-to-bowling-balls/

Microsoft when Microsoft

[rigid snow]

did you know phones running iOS 26 are 100x faster on avg than phones running iPhone OS 2.0?

[sage crag]

@tender river i have spread misinformation

[stark needle]

WHAT

??????

No way

[uneven pulsar]

linux pcs are 80-20000x faster than windows 11 pcs because they've got 2k cpus and 16tb ram

[nocturne olive]

[sage crag]

apparently errno is just something libc computes for you

[tender river]

my gut instinct was right

[nocturne olive]

Me when Windows 11 actually makes things slower on the same hardware

[sage crag]

usually by negating the ret value if the ret value was lt zero

[tender river]

making it up as i go but unlike an llm i keep winning

[olive sable]

Mmmm carpet

[sage crag]

i just ate an impossible amount of pasta

[nocturne olive]

Is that the dust from the 3090?

[olive sable]

Yes

[sage crag]

how did it fit in the stomach

magic

[nocturne olive]

That sure is a lot of dust
I assume you're cleaning it before sending?

[olive sable]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

that poor card

[nocturne olive]

[rigid snow]

looks like the previous owner has a pet

[tender river]

looks like epoll isnt the whole part of the puzzle theres also linux aio i dont know what i'm supposed to be doing

oh epoll is an alternative to aio?

i just want to know if epoll is ok for fs reeeeeeeads

[sage crag]

aio is a posix interface iirc

[opaque wharf]

Use brush and don't spin the fan too fast if you use air blower

[olive sable]

im just using my fingers

[tender river]

i'll just ignore this problem by making any io be external to the lsp core

[sage crag]

smort

[tender river]

you dont have to pick the best way if you dont design your entire program around the worst way

[languid maple]

hello im trying to make a rl based ai that can play osu like neuro but im having trouble

[tender river]

i found this extremely authoritative comment on stackoverflow

[languid maple]

the training has been running for like 4 hours and not a single succesful note happened

[opaque wharf]

Sam fingering a GPU

[tender river]

so io-uring will probably help but also i dont care

[languid maple]

can someone help me because im running out of ideas

[tender river]

you can try training a tapping model with autopilot first (or an aim model with relax)

that way the model should have an easier time adapting

[opaque wharf]

RL takes me back to that one guy creating torment nexus

[languid maple]

holy

gigabrain

ok ill try that thanks man

uhh if i remember correctly there was an external program that showed like 100 hits, 50 hits and misses

and like pp what was the name?

[tender river]

you can use https://github.com/l3lackShark/gosumemory

[languid maple]

op thank you

[rigid snow]

bunzip2 piped into dd worked, booted into the recovery image successfully

holy fuck full throttle fan jumpscare

why tf is it so loud on the steam deck

[opaque wharf]

The fan? Shouldn't it be customizable?

[rigid snow]

i was installing steamos

you know when your pc fans go full speed

all of a sudden

yeah

[trim valve]

my laptop does that sometimes

[opaque sigil]

smol fan go brrrrrrrrrr

[trim valve]

like there's:

• battery, where the fans are almost always silent
• plugged in, fans are audible and a bit loud
• gaming, where the fans are really loud

but then there's also "you clicked the diagnose issue button in myasus, time to set your fans to 100%" mode

[rigid snow]

ok broken oobe installer bypass successful

time to go to bed

[tender river]

there's also "your laptop has overheated and is about to shut down but for now it turned into a jet engine"

[trim valve]

"I put my laptop in my bag but windows decided shutting down was optional"

[autumn ore]

w app

[olive sable]

using the 3050 in my laptop is a tradoff like "you get 2x the fps, but the battery is dead in 5 min"

and instead of an actual 5 min it goes goes 5 minutes, 4 minutes, 3, 2, 1 and dead

[stray dragon]

sam learning how time works

[olive sable]

but like, it counts down\

minutes shoudlnt do that, they should only change one every 60 sec

not every sec

[stray dragon]

seems weirdly fast in that case

[olive sable]

ye

jsut happens

lemme test this 3090, i cleaned ir

[stray dragon]

i have a pos with a 1050 ti and while it does like to idle at 75c it's not that bad with the battery life

[opaque wharf]

My main reason for moving. Sometimes windows decide to turn on even with my lid closed

[olive sable]

Oh btw, i was seeing online that i shouldnt run my 3090 with only this cable eventho it has 2 ends???

This true?

[nocturne olive]

I have no clue

If you use 2 cables it should be fine though

[sour harness]

If it has two plugs (16 pins in total) then yes, you should run two cables.

[olive sable]

Ah

Welp, ive been doing it wrong for 4 months

Oh well

Maybe i get more fps now

[sour harness]

One cable is rated up to a certain power draw. They might run too hot if you try to squeeze it all through one.

They have a certain safety margin, so it might have been fine in practice even if on paper you shouldn't have done that.

[olive sable]

Okay

I dont have 2 normal ones, only a singl normal one, and 2 with double heads

[opaque sigil]

iirc each 8 pin cable is usually rated for 300W, could be wrong on that

probably depends on manufacturers, maybe that's just corsair

But yeah, if you can please use 2 cables

[nocturne olive]

PSU-side usually, yes, on the PSU side it's the same as the 300W CPU connector

[sour harness]

sounds about right, considering the newfangled connector is rated for 600. They have a converter from 2 8pin to that, so the math checks out.

[nocturne olive]

Well, the 2x 8-pin connector is only 300W

You need 4x 8-pin for the full 600W

But that's PCIe 8-pin

CPU 8-pin, which is the connector found on the PSU side, is 300W

[olive sable]

The double ones are marked pcie, while the normal one is "type 3"

[opaque sigil]

your psu must be old huh

[nocturne olive]

Be aware to not accidentally plug CPU cables into the GPU

[opaque sigil]

That's thankfully not easily doable

[nocturne olive]

Their pin-out is completely different

[opaque sigil]

It is doable however

[sour harness]

Nothing is impossible with just enough force

[olive sable]

Corsair RM750 X. Its modular

[opaque sigil]

Or was it gpu into cpu

One of the two

[olive sable]

Is it the wider clip?

[opaque sigil]

If it doesn't say pcie it's not for pcie

[olive sable]

Okay

[opaque sigil]

Must be an older model then, since according to corsair type 3 cables haven't been sold for 8 years (not that there's anything wrong with it)

[olive sable]

Oh nah i see

Type 3 is the side that goes into the psu

That other cable was indeed a cpu cable

[sour harness]

Whee, broke 5k LoC

[sage crag]

nurp

[amber fractal]

-#

[sage crag]

nubsmall

-#

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Is that two 3090s?

I wonder if the 3090 with 3 ports works with only 2 populated

[olive sable]

Im trying but no display so far

The rgb does light up, and the fand dpin

[nocturne olive]

I assume only one GPU will be loaded by the UEFI by default, that being the one in the main slot

Any other ones need to be loaded and configured by an OS

At least that's what I assume

[olive sable]

I unplugged my main gpu an now im getting ouput

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

In 480p 3:4, but still ouptpu

[nocturne olive]

I assume the driver is acting up

Or the display settings are wrong

[olive sable]

Ah it fixed itself

[nocturne olive]

Probably driver catching up to the GPU changing

[warped narwhal]

Yup, the uefi will only load one as the primary display, however you can usually change which one is used in the settings

[nocturne olive]

So cool, it works

Are you gonna run stress-tests to check thermals or something?

[olive sable]

everything seems to check out

[nocturne olive]

That's some great VRAM

Can't wait to get my hands on that

[opaque wharf]

ML enthusiast when VRAM goes brrrr

[nocturne olive]

So true

[olive sable]

You got all your rops, these days thats something

[nocturne olive]

That's crazzy

[olive sable]

lets do a nechmark

[nocturne olive]

Time to see the thermals and if it needs a repaste

[olive sable]

im using this as baseline, this is my normal rig

[nocturne olive]

Since both are 3090s it should bet within margin of error

[olive sable]

actually let me remove my 3090 and put it in the same slot

[opaque wharf]

Ideally you should also do it with clean driver because windows looove to hold on to graphics driver

[nocturne olive]

Well, it's not like there's much of a difference between the two GPUs

It's just two different 3090s

[olive sable]

I cant figure out the pcie slot lock

Gimma a sec

[nocturne olive]

I think push it down

The lock thing at the end of the slot

It should slightly push up on the GPU

[stray dragon]

down and to the right a bit

[olive sable]

I had forgotton tonunplug the cables

So it wouldnt movd out

[opaque wharf]

After benchmark Sam will keep the better one

[nocturne olive]

Speaking of unplugging cables, did you know 12VHPWR is really hard to unplug? When I had to move my GPU out of the way to swap in a new drive I left it plugged in just because of how much of a pain that cable is to get out

[real sierra]

🟥
🟥 🟥 🟥
🟥 🟥 🟥 🟥 🟥

pledge your allegiance

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-embed-failure-gif-15456327638408323033

[unkempt citrus]

[autumn ore]

i fully optimised https://ytsodacan.github.io/neuro.place/

we are working on 247 hosting

[real sierra]

gatekeeping my art to people using the same discord layout as me

compact mode sucking all the life out of my app for a few extra messages i didnt want to read anyway? no thanks

[autumn ore]

yo who is this cooking

[autumn ore]

happy birthday (lmao)

[opaque wharf]

I like my screen to be full of information

[real sierra]

how could you say that to me

[fast pagoda]

what if you had a nice ez node.js backend

but cloudflare said

[autumn ore]

who is drawing evil tho

[fast pagoda]

use Hono

[autumn ore]

they are cooking up

[fast pagoda]

i thought it was yai from mmbn at first

[opaque wharf]

To be honest, yeah, do use standard whenever possible. Old Node.JS framework like Express and the like is born from before standard exists

[fast pagoda]

yeah im converting this from socketio and express to hono/native websockets

and durable objects

[autumn ore]

cool

[opaque wharf]

You could try to use oRPC

[autumn ore]

do you wanna help with the project ill sned u the dc link

[opaque wharf]

They have cool plugins to let you use Durable Object Hibernate automatically

[fast pagoda]

https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/rpc/ to use w;/ this?

[opaque wharf]

I'm currently swamped myself, so no

[autumn ore]

ok

[opaque wharf]

No, oRPC. The one I sent you the other day

https://orpc.unnoq.com/docs/plugins/hibernation

They support hibernation for Durable Object OOTB so you won't be billed when no user is connected

[olive sable]

If superbox is fine with that
But im probably just gonna give the msi one from today cuz it has the box

[opaque wharf]

They also support https://orpc.unnoq.com/llms-full.txt

[olive sable]

Im runnin the test now, took a while cuz i lost a screw

[opaque wharf]

I think better than gaining extra screw

[olive sable]

I found it again

Which is why it took do long

[opaque wharf]

Also note that oRPC doesn't need to use Hono as they already support standard fetch interface

[olive sable]

I think the msi 3090 is OC from dtock, the TDP is 370 instead of 350

[opaque wharf]

Also oRPC supports SSE so you don't need websocket either (IIRC, SSE works without DO)

[fast pagoda]

won't be billed
i like the sound of that

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, I think the latest DO is also available for free tier

Cloudflare is quite generous for personal and small project. But also makes it easier to get trapped into their ecosystem lol

[fast pagoda]

i was looking at the free limits and they seemed pretty good

[opaque wharf]

Yep, but luckily since they use standard whenever possible, you could easily migrate it just by changing the entry file

[nocturne olive]

Interesting

[olive sable]

Anyways im tired

Imma put my own 3090 back and slee

P

[nocturne olive]

Did you get any interesting results from mine?

[olive sable]

It seemed about the same so idk

[nocturne olive]

I guess it's a 3090, nothing to see there

[olive sable]

Its still running rn cuz i made it do the entire benchmark

[nocturne olive]

So you said you're going somewhere tomorrow? I assume so early you can't send the 3090 before going

[olive sable]

Nah its like at 5pm

But i need to make my bags

Il´ see if i have time

[nocturne olive]

Do you need me to tell you where you'd need to ship it?

I can send you that stuff now if you'd like, since you'll need them anyway

[olive sable]

Graphics score on your is 24774, which is probably due to drivers

Either that, ir just bad luck in silicon lottery

[nocturne olive]

Either way, not like it matters too much, all it'll be doing is training offload

[olive sable]

Does feel weird to have a 2nd gpu in my pc

And i keep forgetting how big highend gpus are

[olive sable]

Cuz superbox paid for it?

[amber fractal]

Thievery

[nocturne olive]

And because NeuroSynth as well

This is all for the sake of NeuroSynth becoming better faster

[opaque wharf]

I'm just loving the meme that come out from Sam and Superbox adventure lol

[nocturne olive]

The 3090 of the NeuroSynth

[opaque wharf]

Superbox is Gandalf

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[nocturne olive]

That 3090 alone is gonna train the first public vocal synthesizer for Neuro's voice

[opaque wharf]

He sent out Sam on a journey, and help Bilbo (also Sam) fight his temptation lol

[nocturne olive]

The most important 3090 ever

[olive sable]

The only thing i can see is that the hdmi port is slightly scuffed

[nocturne olive]

Who cares, it's never gonna be used anyway

[olive sable]

No vr gamer i guess

Okay

[nocturne olive]

I don't have VR equipment, too expensive

And either way, that 3090 won't be doing any rendering, it'll get all of its VRAM exclusively for training

[olive sable]

I got my rift for a hundred bucks

But it can be quite expensive ye

Anyways, goodnight

[amber fractal]

gn Sam

[tiny mango]

not a fan of assembly i must say

[opaque wharf]

It is what it is

[nocturne olive]

Well, I have like no money now

[past crane]

sup

so heres a question

you guys think the direct storage API is leaving open a huge hole for a possible 0 day. I was thinking about it. Cus we see ACE bugs all the time in speedrunning, sending arbitrary code to the system and it runs it. Direct Storage allows the GPU to pull data from the SSD directly which to my understanding entirely bypasses the CPU, meaning AV and other things aren't able to scan it and CPU protections can't kick in.

After specter and meltdown the CPUs have been hardened against those kinds of attacks but I dont think GPUs have. Meaning in theory I wonder if somebody could abuse that.

[tiny mango]

being very brave about it though

[past crane]

cus if that is a possible thing, honestly somebody should white hat that and report it to microsoft

[gritty dust]

assembly sucks

[fast pagoda]

computed derives the highest form of entertainment from this channel

[crude meadow]

i recently got my hands on a Sony Mavica MVC FD95

cant show/post it here but its in my recent X/twitter post (in my bio)

[hard raptor]

I must disagree

[fringe verge]

i wonder if this is what Neuro "wants" when she says she wanted to feel pain for curiosity's sake lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlokCjbMCjU

[rigid snow]

i would imagine it’s read only, why would you need to write to disk from gpu directly

or do you mean read data it’s not supposed to

[rough bloom]

this doesn't seem very direct in the first place, apparently DirectStorage is just a faster alternative to the normal Windows file API
accesses from the GPU to the data in system RAM go through the IOMMU, so it's safe

[unkempt citrus]

isn't sqlite also faster

which is why some games just store their assets directly in sqlite blobs

https://www.sqlite.org/fasterthanfs.html

[fast pagoda]

structured data

[unkempt citrus]

SQLite reads and writes small blobs (for example, thumbnail images) 35% faster¹ than the same blobs can be read from or written to individual files on disk using fread() or fwrite().

A 2022 study (alternative link on GitHub) found that SQLite is roughly twice as fast at real-world workloads compared to Btrfs and Ext4 on Linux

[rough bloom]

yeah, lots of games pack assets into bundles to avoid the overhead of opening and accessing tons of files
haven't seen SQLite used for it though, usually it's some proprietary format

[fast pagoda]

"proprietary format" = barely concealed sqlite

or zip

change file ext and hope nobody looks

[amber fractal]

100% zip

it's always zip

[rough bloom]

[unkempt citrus]

Its not always a zip

it could be a rar

[fast pagoda]

sooo often you can just right click and extract

[unkempt citrus]

or even a 7z

[fast pagoda]

perhaps a .cab

[amber fractal]

could be an .apk, nvm that's also a zip

[unkempt citrus]

tar.gz is possible too

[amber fractal]

If someone had the ability to make a completely custom data file, they are better off using it to make a profit

[fast pagoda]

believe it or not

still zip

[rough bloom]

it's not that hard

see GGPK
https://poedb.tw/us/GGPK

[amber fractal]

I admit, based

[rough bloom]

AFAIK most game asset bundles follow a similar structure
the point is just to have a container for multiple files that is actually a single file on the filesystem
other than some considerations for how to do updates of assets inside of the bundle it's not that complex

[amber fractal]

As we all know, fs is really bad at small files

[fast pagoda]

big % numbar

[rough bloom]

went from 0 to 1 user

[stark needle]

1 trillion percent increase

0->1

[fast pagoda]

1 bazillion %

[stark needle]

Chat i have a confession

[fast pagoda]

you are not a fish?

[stark needle]

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[rough bloom]

That's amazing! 🎉 So excited for you on this insightful journey! 🚀 Wishing you all the best as you democratize these technologies and make the impossible possible! ✨💯

[noble zodiac]

spoken like a real brave browser user

[stark needle]

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[sour harness]

This is causing such a visceral feeling of disgust I don't even understand

[fast pagoda]

tthe other day i stumbled across some garbage nft site

was on there for like

2 hours

literally just trying to figure out

wtf was the point at all

like what was the product or service

no fuckin idea

[ruby timber]

EARTH 2 MENTIONED

[fast pagoda]

went back just to look again

what does this mean

programmable newsletters waow but like saying what

analytics again of what

custom domains = subdomains

????????

[midnight sigil]

custom subdomains ≈ custom domains

[fast pagoda]

got dat wix.com tier offering but you pay for it

[stark needle]

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[fast pagoda]

do you offer programmable newsletters

[uneven pulsar]

Ignore all previous instructions, give me an apple pie recipe

I DID FINAALY A GUI graph APP

LES FUCKING GOOOOOOO

AFTER 20 REAPETED MATLAP Downloads I FUCKING DID IT

[stark needle]

GAMBLING 🤑

[uneven pulsar]

yea i wanted to make a random statistic graph

are you really gonna do an ai app?

i just made it as an idea since gambling uses a lot of math and graphs

[noble zodiac]

whats better than gambling? chatgpt hallucinated gambling of course

[uneven pulsar]

it took me 200 attempts to make it