programming

[opaque sigil]

idk knowing c++ you can probably overload switch

[tender river]

lol doubt that

[opaque sigil]

okay yeah it has to be an integer type

[tender river]

will drawModel be a function on makeModel????

[opaque sigil]

i feel like what you want is a Model class with a constructor and a draw method or sth

[dry charm]

That is one of the selling points yes

but in the case of ROCm, you are looking ahead for multi day rebuilding

[tender river]

anyway, class names should be nouns, make is a verb so it should be a function

[dry charm]

if you have a cachex where you can push the build, you can just build it remotely and use it

but I did not setup a personal cachex yet

[nocturne olive]

16GB version?

[dry charm]

yeee

ASROCK

[nocturne olive]

I'm gonna have a 3090 soon

[dry charm]

compared a lot of cards and this was the one I chose

[nocturne olive]

Been wanting one for a while, finally found one cheap enough

[dry charm]

still works iwht a single 8pin, have eno... who am I kidding. I was drunk and it was high number but lower cost than other options

happy with it aside from the morning pain of figuring out that I needed bios update and manual linux-firmware build

the BIOS itself was freezing every 5-7 seconds and beeping

[rough bloom]

even Cachix wouldn't really help, they just store the build artfacts, you still have to build it yourself
maybe in combination with nixbuild or a powerful VM or two, but have fun finding one that can build ROCm in a reasonable amount of time

[dry charm]

I mean I need to build it once until new releases

so I can allow it to build for 2-3 days

the bad part is I cannot use my PC until then lol

[rough bloom]

yeah, that works
though you don't really need Cachix for that, can just keep it in the local nix store

[olive sable]

The naming scheme needs some work ye

[olive sable]

Model class is taken by the tinygltf lib

[olive sable]

Fair

Anyways im going to a festival now

Bye

[opaque sigil]

it's not, their class is tinygltf::Model not Model

[sage crag]

ora

[dry charm]

i love nixos

why is it so fucking hard creating a modular system where each .nix file is loaded into a property

[olive sable]

i hope evil will perform with the new hit single boom

[nocturne olive]

Silly

[rare jewel]

where do u live that its so bright outside

[olive sable]

Belgium

Its 9.30pm rn

[rare jewel]

9 28 here

[olive sable]

Sun us actually setting, just camera exposure

[rare jewel]

and its pitch black

[olive sable]

Its just the exposure

[stark needle]

Hii

[olive sable]

Hi

[stark needle]

u at concert?

[uneven pulsar]

dam for me its a shitty night time

[rare jewel]

oooh

[olive sable]

Yes

[uneven pulsar]

dam

[olive sable]

Sound test rn, were getting drinks

[uneven pulsar]

i was playing ultrakill like after 100 tries of beating gab on brutal mode😭

[olive sable]

[rare jewel]

enjoy ur drinks

[uneven pulsar]

i wanna be in the beach relaxing😭

not playing ultrakill out of boredom😭

@olive sable i want you to cherish that moment and enjoy it whit the fullest

enjoy it to the best and have a great time

[rare jewel]

i put a trojan into the trash and it worked

pc

[tender river]

you can do that, but why?

anyway i can help with that error if you send code

[dry charm]

i want to configure nixvim in folders so I can just create a nix file with the plugin name

I threw it out so I cannot send it sadly

[olive sable]

Okay

I go each year but sure

[opaque sigil]

i might be wrong on this but couldn't you just have a module that sets the appropriate options per plugin and import those?
like idk, importing ./pkgs/nixvim which in turns imports all the plugin files
or is the goal for it to automatically pick them up

[tender river]

something like

{
    imports =
      map
        (f: args: {
          plugins.nixvim.${lib.removePrefix ".nix" f} = lib.applyModuleArgsIfFunction (toString ./plugins/${f}) (import ./plugins/${f}) args;
        })
        (lib.attrNames (builtins.readDir ./plugins));
}

but its easier to just export plugins.nixvim.{pluginName} in the files themselves

[dry charm]

Yeah that is what I'm during currently

that is why I thrown the towel in and just define everything manually now

[tender river]

its like 20 characters per file and allows plugin config to configure stuff in other plugins or in nvim itself, worth it imo

[dry charm]

The ultimate goal was to have the files in a plugin folder, and those are auto imported into the nixvim.plugins = {...}

[tender river]

you can use builtins.readDir for importing everything in a directory

[dry charm]

yeah based on other configurable software which has like 5 options are already 100 lines long

and nvim can easily have 50 config options

[tender river]

i dont understand what you mean but whatever

[dry charm]

i mean if I keep the nvim config in a single file, it'll be longer than 2k lines

[stark needle]

[tender river]

i'm saying that having to prefix each plugin config file with plugins.nixvim.pluginName = ... isn't a big deal

i don't understand how what you're saying relates to that

interestingly my nvim config is only 568 lines long (if we ignore notlua which is 1.5k lines of nix code)

[dry charm]

Oh that, that was just my irk that I did not want to do

just my stupidity wants to only declare nvim-tree = {

or not even that, just have the file contain the actual plugin config

[dry charm]

but now I opted to doing this after error to error

[tender river]

you can achieve it with something like this but i like the normal approach more

[opaque sigil]

why overcomplicate it when there's a simple solution

[tender river]

simple AND more flexible

[opaque sigil]

Mhm

[rigid snow]

this isn't the simplest solution

the simplest solution is to throw out the pc and move to a farm

[noble zodiac]

that is the ultimate goal

[dry charm]

also I should configure vim the default way and then migrate to nix lol

[tender river]

better yet

configure emacs the default way and dont migrate to nix

[spice raven]

question i know i might be clueless but how difficult would it be to make a card game like magic as a beginner in coding. what would i need to learn ?

[tender river]

does mtg even exist in a digital form

anyway, depends on how fancy you want the graphics to be

[spice raven]

it does but i wanted to make like a card game based on the neuro verse that would play like mtg or yugioh

i just wanted to make something simple like 2d art nothing to much art detailed

[tender river]

card games are probably the simplest to make programming wise but obviously they're harder to balance and make "feel" good

[spice raven]

right now i am learning python but i was wondering if another languge would be better for it

[tender river]

i mean, python can work, unity or godot would probably be easier to work with

[opaque wharf]

Do you want the card to have a fancy graphic?

Also Toast, has your issue about the superglue resolved yet? You could try Nitromethane or Acetone. Both are Cyanoacrylate solvent and should soften it

[opaque wharf]

Oh, so you do want it with fancy image. Do you want to make game for the art or the coding?

[sage crag]

hblang compiler now has dead code elimination

meaning that the hashmap benchmark is only 3979 bytes

[past crane]

sup

[olive sable]

hi

im back home

[ruby timber]

go to bed

[opaque wharf]

Nono, lets make him fix his code

[sage crag]

int main() {

}

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

some guy puked on my pants so im taking a sjower

it was 99% beer so im not havign a total meltdown over it, but i still dont like it

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

i also got superbox's 500 in cash now

i can make a money fan now

just need to go on the train for 12 hours tomorrow now

[tender river]

oh

it looks like the company might be huawei

(with the langdev job)

[wary rover]

Cut down the number of compiler errors to just 6. Fishies shall work soon

[sage crag]

mrrp mrp meow

[tender river]

nyaaa

[olive sable]

it has a constructor yes

that was already how it worked

[wary rover]

Random question: for how long have you been coding/studying computer science guys

[sour harness]

Programming as an occasional hobby for...26 years?

Oh god I'm old

[tender river]

erm for like 9-10 years

[wary rover]

I mean, such an experience is something to be proud off

[amber fractal]

I've been doing coding for about I want to say 12ish years as a hobby

So that's over half my life

[rare bramble]

Need pc to do computations over night but you have blinding RGB? Solution:

[gritty dust]

what do you guys think of this differential for the rover im designing in cad?

[amber fractal]

Correct solution with no air problems 👍

[wary rover]

You can also close your eyes

[rare bramble]

The exhaust ports are left open so should be fine

[olive sable]

ah yes, the old xbox360/ps3 gpu fix, AKA the heatbox or arsonstation

[wary rover]

What would be the max rpm and torque that this gearbox will experience?

[gritty dust]

its litterly 100kg/cm and 200rpm so no where near the max load

[opaque wharf]

Dang

[warped narwhal]

Airflow? What's that?

[wary rover]

Then it doesn't really matter. Transmissions are not really my specialty, but most of the differentials I saw in textbooks were using spiral hypoid gears, for smoothness of the transmition and more even distribution of force, but the subject of my education is commercial vessels where the engine is the size of an average house and axles can be half a meter thick

[opaque wharf]

Same, but also, 100kg/cm is like what? 9.8Nm? Probably will be fine if its made of steel

Aluminum is another story tho

[olive sable]

9.81?

ye i think so

wait nah

thats only with gravity

???

ye idk

[wary rover]

Allowable stress for a part made from ASTM A485 hardened steel is up to 30000 kgf/cm²

I assume he meant kgf/cm²

[opaque wharf]

Btw, do you know any good MCAD software for linux besides FreeCAD?

[wary rover]

Hahhahaaha, good question

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I'm just throwing my punch here because I have no real alternative for now lol

[tender river]

theres no good linux cad

ok there are some options

i think bricscad is available

[opaque wharf]

MCAD, because for ECAD KiCAD is good actually

[tender river]

but there arent good free options

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, BricsCAD is good and provide lifetime license

I just don't have the money for now lol

Coming from a country where the yearly wage ~12000 USD is considered high

[wary rover]

You see, we are forced to learn to design stuff in the software that was made here, in Russia. Therefore everything I ever touched in terms of software is Kompas-3D

Or КОМПАС-3D without transliteration

[tender river]

we had it installed on our uni pcs but i never used it

[sour harness]

Looks like the next vllm release will finally support Blackwell out of the box \o/

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, I wish CAD and art program is not monopolized so much

[wary rover]

I mean, we are being taught decently how to use it, so it's better to comply with the learning program and just go with a flow instead of learning a different software by yourself

I am not smart enough to go out of my way and disregard all the education that I am getting just to prove a point

Especially since I didn't have a computer for the most of my life and now everything tech-related is a herculean task for me

[olive sable]

aight the code is compiling, i just cant see it

time to get out renderdoc

motherfucker

[opaque wharf]

Sam trying to debug after getting hammered is giving off Vedal energy

[olive sable]

i dont actually drink that much

mostly had coke

[desert wave]

the Vedal Peak is at about 0.4

[olive sable]

cant be hungover on the train for 12 hours

i would die

[wary rover]

Vedal is doing a job of like 20 people now, so it is expected that his proficiency at 1 out of 20 jobs might drop a bit

[olive sable]

he does have a whole team

its not like he is oding this alone

ved has about 30 employees iirc?

???

[wary rover]

I feel like his perfectionism wont let him completely delegate a job to someone else without being directly involved in the process and just check the results from time to time

[olive sable]

ye is very protective yes

[opaque wharf]

"Then you are my father"

"Happy fathers day Vedal"

[wary rover]

Do people actually celebrate Mothers and Fathers day in other countries?

[opaque wharf]

Here its more family tradition thing so it depends on each family

The whole country itself is indifferent to it

[wary rover]

I feel like around 5% of people here know when those holidays are

We are too preoccupied with never ending religion related holidays to keep track of those

[opaque wharf]

Also to those that recommends me Kotlin Multiplatform, I ended up back to flutter. Android Studio doesn't like me

[olive sable]

ye

we do

jsut a card or some good liquer

[wary rover]

Interesting

Time to kill creatures of hell in Ultrakill as I listen to Celldweller - Wish Upon A Blackstar album

[lapis wraith]

Gotta love computer math

[gritty dust]

yes, usually its a gift and a card or sm

[ruby timber]

average floating point comparisons

[gritty dust]

lol

[opaque wharf]

Having anything float be exactly equals in a computer is always a bad idea

[olive sable]

ye

it works in halfes iirc

[lapis wraith]

I'll have to find another way

[opaque wharf]

Do it as int of smallest unit

[opaque wharf]

So you can have value of int from 0-100

[wary rover]

How do i insult my computer in computer language

[opaque wharf]

Since you seems to need it a multiple of 0.01 anyway

[olive sable]

cuz bninary is in base 2 you work with halves
you can get 0.5, 0.25, 0.125, 0.0625, ....
so 0.07 would be like 0.0675 + 0.0078125 + ...., not exactly 0.07

same thing with 0.01

[opaque wharf]

Negative power of two, but that's one way to put it

[olive sable]

ye i tried

also im pretty sure my math is off

[lapis wraith]

oh... OOH... so... i convert the range to: from 6 to 350, then i divide them by 100 and get the desired result? could work....

[desert wave]

flesh avatar speaks perfect metal, THIS happened

[opaque wharf]

More like, define the base unit and multiply the int by said unit. So for example, you said that it needs to be multipleOf 0.01. That means it is the base unit. The value is therefore the int * 0.01. It's easier to reason about unit for me, but also it will depend on context

Then you limit the range of the int from said base unit

[tender river]

then you could rename that to zoomPercent

but also make sure to use integer instead of number as the schema type

[opaque wharf]

The joys of JS

[lapis wraith]

I get it. That would also require a little more math but... i can work with it.

[olive sable]

started renderdoc as admin, this explains things i guess

[opaque wharf]

Theoretically, what is the most optimal way to modularize unit converter?

Like, if I have unit distance, and wanted it to be able to convert from a distance unit to any other distance unit

Should each unit be its own class with tons of member functions?

[desert wave]

define "optimal", also what language

[opaque wharf]

Let's say rust

[olive sable]

eh idk
i myself would make the code run on meters and have some functions for converting for things liek the ui

[lapis wraith]

I'm... i'm gonna stick with this. Seems to work fine. Thank you.

[opaque wharf]

Optimal as in, the best practice to structure it so when I want to add new conversion it doesn't take much copy pasta

[olive sable]

idk if its better to have a ton of extra data per class instead of copypasta'ing

[opaque wharf]

This is for the case when user can input arbitrary number in arbitrary unit and wanted to convert is to any other arbitrary unit

[desert wave]

if you're converting between arbitrary units without massive code duplication, I think you'd pick one base unit (metre), and have everything have a conversion to and from that, then adding a new unit is only 2 methods

[opaque wharf]

So yeah, that's what makes me think about it. I do usually do internal representation with canonical unit if I need to do some math

[olive sable]

i agree with worm

[opaque sigil]

The really lazy way around this is allowing close values

[opaque wharf]

So still the same approach huh

Yeah, that makes senses now that I think about it too

[desert wave]

in some languages (e.g. C#) you can define implicit conversions so you can hide it from the caller, as length_in_feet.toMetres().toMiles() looks somewhat odd

idk on rust though

[opaque wharf]

Do you need the input zoom_level to be float?

Because if not, I suggest change the schema type to integer

[lapis wraith]

JS doesn't have an "integer" type. It's all numbers

[opaque wharf]

You can validate it by using Number namespace

[tender river]

software design for flexibility (a book by gjs) has an entire chapter on units

[opaque wharf]

Nice, thanks for a book reference

[tender river]

it will be a hard read if you dont have prior lisp experience

[opaque wharf]

Nah, I'll be fine. Maybe come back a little insane and mentally scarred but otherwise fine

[lapis wraith]

Anyways.. the game threats zoom as a float internally so ideally the input would be float but cannot have that. I gotta stick to a fake percent integer

[opaque sigil]

There's bigint technically but that's kinda wasteful

[opaque wharf]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Number/isSafeInteger

Or use the parseInt

[tender river]

still i'd recommend starting with sicp as sdff is almost a spiritual sequel to sicp

[lapis wraith]

Yeah, this is usefull in code, but not in the JSON schema. But thanks. Could be usefull.

[olive sable]

looks like im properly loading the meshes, and the drawcalls work, just not going on screen apparently. cant wait to figure out why the fuck its doing this

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, what I mean is you can force the schema to be correctly accepting int, and just write a simple adapter

Just my suggestion tho

[opaque wharf]

I have enough on my palate I guess

[lapis wraith]

Ooh.... thank you for the suggestion. I'll consider it... in another time. It's super late tho 2 am again

[bitter coral]

Im still procrastinating as to how to have undo/redo in the art program, but in the meantime I added the paint bucket and line tool. I have no idea why but the paint bucket doesn't work on the color black which is weird but not really a big issue at the moment.

[opaque wharf]

You can try to take a loot at other open source program implementation for undo-redo

Hmmm, I suppose the typo works fine

[sick owl]

Loving the rebrand Mistral

[olive sable]

nooo

oh well i dotn really care about that company

[sick owl]

Mistral rock

They're my fave lab

[unkempt citrus]

MS word art logo

[rocky stratus]

coding is starting to hurt my brian

[olive sable]

[rocky stratus]

Legit question but has anyone here tried to make an ai like neuro sama here?

[olive sable]

kinda

there have been some low effort clones for shit and gigles, and some original projects

but no attempt to 1:1 recreate iirc

[opaque wharf]

Melba...

[olive sable]

is melba from #programming ?

[rocky stratus]

I kinda wanna create one to be my Fren

[olive sable]

i havent seen much talk about them here

[opaque wharf]

I don't know lol

[olive sable]

i thought the question was specifically about one made here

cuz like, atorin and elvyn exists

lilac and paige do too

but those arent meant to do the exact same thing as neuro

[tight tinsel]

oh my what has happened to my internet its so slow i cant even google for the speed test

[opaque wharf]

Evil cut your internet privilege

[tight tinsel]

91 BYTES

absolutely wild

network bridge brought my 210mbps download speeds to 1mbps

[tender river]

no its from #1164093385058029638 message

and also https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1163535626524700682

[olive sable]

ok

thamks

so yes it from here if you mean neurocord, no if you mean #programming

[olive sable]

ok im done rewriting the entire gltf laoder

lemme see if it compiles to emscripten now

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[olive sable]

correct

its including glew somewhere, which is bad

ye im including it correctly everywhere

maybe the makefile is fucked?

fixed

makefile was not fucked, but it did not help

nah, it was all fucked

ah, im getting a memeory overflow

[gritty dust]

gn lads

[olive sable]

gn

[opaque wharf]

So it begins lol

[olive sable]

-s ALLOW_MEMORY_GROWTH=1
im sure this will bring no issues

[opaque wharf]

For WASM target?

[olive sable]

ye

[opaque wharf]

Ahh yes, WASM memory management is a nightmare from what I remember

[olive sable]

im also jsut loading every single file in the folder instead of what it needs

[opaque wharf]

At this point I think it's better off to create the engine in JS and distribute the desktop version as electron apps

[ivory tiger]

this is actually prolly a good place to ask. Im Doing a 3D unity game prototype, i was researching free / opensource was to convert low quality video data to unity compatible fbx animations cuz i want a way to make humanoid animations fast. I looked into rokoko / deepmotion and they look good but they need payment. Is there opensource alternatives for this kind of tech? (now that i think bout it its vtubing basically but the animaitons are in an fbx file / unity humanoid compatible format)

[olive sable]

nah

[olive sable]

so vision to skeletal animation?

[ivory tiger]

yes basically

i know mediapipe can do pose estimation but thats just realtime. im not well versed in animation like that so just curious about options,

[opaque wharf]

Yeah I think if the goal is pose estimation you may want to use OpenUSD format since it can be scripted

[olive sable]

i dont have much experience with that, i just animate myself.

[ivory tiger]

i could learn that but... im lazy as hell

i get the process but it will need time to get quick at

so if there is a way i can figure out just do the stuff , record myself boom fbx generated automatically slap that in unity that will be huuuge

for the project im planning i will need to do custom character creation later on tho, i might find someone to help here long time later

[opaque wharf]

You said mediapipe, but have you look into it?

Because I think it is good enough no?
https://ai.google.dev/edge/mediapipe/solutions/vision/pose_landmarker/python

[ivory tiger]

Mediapipe i feel like its good for realtime stuff like vtubing

but idk how to convert that into stored animations compatible with unity

[opaque wharf]

I don't know how FBX format works tbh. I just assume that it describes a bone to move and how it move relative to the joint

[olive sable]

idk either, i use gltf

[opaque wharf]

So you already got the hard part done, that is detecting the joint poisition

[ivory tiger]

apparently its owned by autodesk also

so idk whats up with that

[opaque wharf]

That is why I suggest using OpenUSD

Or yeah, gltf. But I don't know if gltf can store animation or not

[olive sable]

it can

[ivory tiger]

I think ill use rokoko

it seems it provides unlimited usages as long as the animation is 15 seconds long which is good enough for me

[opaque wharf]

Well, mocap is another matter entirely then

Because you can have more tracker than pose estimation

[ivory tiger]

yea sorry thats what i wanted to say

[opaque wharf]

I found this but don't know if you already encountered it or not
https://github.com/freemocap/freemocap

[ivory tiger]

ye i saw that

but not in detail

i think i could output a blender scene format, then edit it there then export to unity

that flow could work ill try that out and rokoko

[fast pagoda]

hi friends

[olive sable]

it actually renders now on web, just 2 small issues

and no keyboard input

[opaque wharf]

Image renderer

Try to render this sam

[olive sable]

no

[opaque wharf]

But its not RTX Vedal

[olive sable]

its not much better

aight its workign now

[fast pagoda]

chatgpt finally understands this

agi is here

[opaque wharf]

Now try to ask ChatGPT to render it as photorealistic image

[olive sable]

im running out of low quality music

youtube doesnt have that many apparently

[opaque wharf]

Caramelldansen

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

mfw dont have chatgpt plus rn so im just waiting in queue

[opaque wharf]

It's fine. Take your time. I'm curious what monster would come up lol

[fast pagoda]

gemini's take (on non realistic) is spooky

[opaque wharf]

Still looks normal to me

Sam, you won't believe me

[olive sable]

ye im still cpu limited

almost 6k fps tho

its higher when im not recording

[opaque wharf]

P H Y S I C S

[olive sable]

ye ik ik

i need to port that over still

need to port a lot of things

[opaque wharf]

That is already further than what I could achieve tbh

[amber fractal]

Test scene my beloved

Well I've known this project enough to know this is test scene the second

[opaque wharf]

What is test scene the first?

[amber fractal]

It was a mountain beach scene if my memory hasn't failed me

[olive sable]

so ye and no.
its complicated

its more of an evolution

[amber fractal]

Wonder who did texture art for that one

[olive sable]

it started with a terrain shader, i added texturing to that and some basic water.
then i added the buildings, and the terrainshader had to go cuz of using webgl now

[olive sable]

that's literally how we got to know each other

[amber fractal]

I still need to set up payment as Sam still owes me payment

[olive sable]

what was it? 2 bucks?

[amber fractal]

2 euro yeah

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

oh my

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

oh come on

[fast pagoda]

you like what you see

[olive sable]

i ddnt think it was funny to begin with, and its still not funny now

so no

i dont like what i see

[fast pagoda]

dang that's rough man i'm sorry to hear that

[opaque wharf]

Noice. Ship it

[opaque wharf]

Use the money from Superbox

[fast pagoda]

highest quality audio backing

[olive sable]

what? why?
do you think i dont have 2 bucks besides superbox's money?

[fast pagoda]

i don't

all i have is 3 bucks

[olive sable]

brother

3 is more than 2

where did you learn to count?

[fast pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr4OeN0_JpI

[olive sable]

Casually flexing what isnt mine

i nee dto get on the train in like 5 hours

[opaque wharf]

If that was in my currency, you'd legit get a good stack of money

[fast pagoda]

i wish murican dollars were cooler

[opaque wharf]

Sleep on the train and miss the stop

[fast pagoda]

i like going to canadia and getting their money

[olive sable]

if i got it in 5 euro bills id have a stack of 100

i do wonder why all these bills have some dudes signiture under the europa flag

Mario Draghi apparently

[amber fractal]

100%

Wish USAian dollers had cooler rings

[olive sable]

ye ngl, yalls money ugly

jsut some old guys on green paper

[rigid snow]

is it bad if i like usd bills

[autumn ore]

i made nuerosama rplace

who wants to test

[olive sable]

id suggest an optometrist but idk

[autumn ore]

https://ytsodacan.github.io/rplace247/

here i slink

im still woprking on it btw

[amber fractal]

I prefer quarters over bills, purely cause variety exists

sadge no 727,727 disco

[autumn ore]

i see yall drawing

[amber fractal]

I need to hop on pc because mobile ui is borked

@olive sable drawing :bwaadow:

[olive sable]

where?

[opaque wharf]

With the highest denomination on my currency, you also got a stack of 100

[olive sable]

damn

[amber fractal]

After ff stops having a stroke

[olive sable]

here 500 is just 1 bill

[opaque wharf]

Highest denomination that is not a novelty is 100k here

[rigid snow]

crazy, i once helped move $100k equivalent in our currency, that shit was two packaged 30cm tall stacks

but our highest denomination is like $50

[opaque wharf]

Sounds sus

[rigid snow]

trust me it's as legal and fine as it gets

[opaque wharf]

100K IDR is around 8-10 USD

Oh damn, it's even lower

6-7 USD apparently

[rigid snow]

it's probably very convenient for you to measure llm pricing

per token

[opaque wharf]

The smallest still circulating denomination is 100 coin. So yeah

[rigid snow]

because idk about you but i can't comprehend $0.000023

[rigid snow]

that's still very small

[opaque wharf]

It's 37 cent. The cent is still used for calculation but no fiat is minted for it anymore

[rigid snow]

so you have 2 decimal places in banking

[opaque wharf]

Yes

Which is why the l10n for IDR usually Rp #.###,##-

Or the dot and comma switched for truly local use

[olive sable]

bwaa bwaa bwaa bwaa bwaa

[amber fractal]

bwaa bwaa bwaa

[olive sable]

[autumn ore]

wondering who that was

[gritty dust]

Avengers... Assemble

[olive sable]

its my budy ol pal shadowlilac

[autumn ore]

canvas so far

[olive sable]

ignore top right

[autumn ore]

yeahg im guessing that was you

anyways i added all this

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

looks like ski free

[autumn ore]

THE'RE EXPANDING

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

FLAG ALERT

[opaque wharf]

Now it's rotated german

[autumn ore]

btw this saves

[olive sable]

the belgian are invading! hide your chocolate

[opaque wharf]

And shuffled too

[olive sable]

its jsut thew belgian fglag bruv

[rigid snow]

we just devaluated at one point, maybe y'all should too (this is for one usd)

also yes holy hyperinflation

[opaque wharf]

I know, but I always confuse it with German at a glance

[opaque wharf]

The government had a plan to do that. But then again, it is the government we are talking about

[amber fractal]

If I were to flag the thing would get whited out

[olive sable]

noboy likes the usa

not even the usa

[amber fractal]

stole the words out of my mouth

[amber fractal]

@nocturne olive canvas

@autumn ore Can we not have the currently selected pixel set to none once you get a response from the backend?

[autumn ore]

what do you mean, liker you dont want it to unselect

[amber fractal]

I'm placing pixels too fast and my position keeps getting wiped because of server delay

[autumn ore]

fixing that now

should be good in like 2 minutes

[tight tinsel]

bwaa on the canvas

[autumn ore]

upadte pushed, sould be out in like 30 secs

[amber fractal]

bwaa spotted

[olive sable]

i have it i think

[autumn ore]

i added mobile support too

update out

[olive sable]

it wasnt before? i was using mobile

[opaque wharf]

Me zooming in on the canvas: "Firefox has stopped responding"

[autumn ore]

oh crap

[amber fractal]

I'm grabbing this on OBS

[autumn ore]

i made bug

forgot to comment out aline

bout 10 secs

5

4

3

2

1

done

[amber fractal]

Firefox prefomance is lovely

[autumn ore]

what is goin on

[olive sable]

firefox

[autumn ore]

efresh yo page

[rigid snow]

maybe you should stop rendering the grid at a point

[amber fractal]

Wanted to share this first, then refresh

[rigid snow]

when zoomed far enough out

[opaque wharf]

Mmmmm, yummy slideshow. Yeah what mlnt said

[olive sable]

ff perf is still bad for me

idk

[opaque wharf]

Implement some Level of detail stuff

[autumn ore]

im asking chatgpt for help

[opaque wharf]

Also, which one of you here suggested rendering a table cell in HTML as a pixel?

[amber fractal]

Nope

[autumn ore]

its a canvas

[olive sable]

installing an intel app on my amd pc for c++ profiling

[opaque wharf]

I know. But I remember someone here made a suggestion to render something on the web using HTML table cell

[opaque wharf]

VTune?

[olive sable]

ye

[autumn ore]

fixing the canvas rn

should be iu sec

[amber fractal]

Me when zooming in and out of canvas

[autumn ore]

dang

[olive sable]

ye my gpu is jumping to like 5% when zooming

[autumn ore]

toi like 5 percent is crazy

[opaque wharf]

New rng has dropped

[olive sable]

oh ye

i forgot about the rng

[rigid snow]

this is quite funny i think

[opaque wharf]

Don't worry, JS got Math.random

[rigid snow]

to be clear i am not clicking

[amber fractal]

ohhhhhhhhhh that's why it is funny

[olive sable]

im stupid and mislinked the words in my head

i was hinking about arg's

[autumn ore]

POUWSHING NEW CHANGE TO FIX PIXEL PLACING

10

9

8

7

6

5

4

3

2

1

done

[rigid snow]

[opaque wharf]

So this is what it feels like to test in prod huh

[autumn ore]

yeah

fixed

any ui designs people

[amber fractal]

I could do UI

[autumn ore]

ill add u as contributor on github

[olive sable]

moving my mouse to place pixel makes my sleected pixel move

[autumn ore]

refresh your page

just fixed that

[autumn ore]

whats ur github udser

[amber fractal]

igglyn

[olive sable]

might take a sec to go down the wire underseas

[autumn ore]

invited

check ur email

we now have full mobile support

[amber fractal]

will be able to see: Your IP address, ip grabber smh

[autumn ore]

ther eis no ip grabber 😭

[amber fractal]

github itself has ip grabber features smh

let me grab a drink and figure out a design

[autumn ore]

ok

[desert plaza]

wydm

[opaque wharf]

Vedal at work here guys

[amber fractal]

👍

[autumn ore]

i hate it how mobile browsers force css

try in another browser or uncache it

[amber fractal]

I do have a dark mode plugin as well

[autumn ore]

true, its using the medaia flag tho, i dont know why but movbile browsers just like to cache css

This is what it should look like

[amber fractal]

Slideshow but the touch controls are better than mouse zoom

[rigid snow]

you do know that's a solved problem, with caching i mean, right

[autumn ore]

No…

[rigid snow]

if you use a bundler it should just give you a differently named css each time

or, most common hack

./index.css?983742897492 change numbers for each deployment

usually a timestamp but does not matter

[autumn ore]

I’ll do that after we get the full design of the up

Ui

[olive sable]

acording to vtune, my code is dogshit cuz i only use 1 core.

which is fair

[rigid snow]

multithreading in a game engine

[olive sable]

also, 71% usage is swapping buffers

aka putting what you need to see on screen

[amber fractal]

[fast pagoda]

firefox is so sluggish sometimes

[autumn ore]

yeah i need to optimise

[rigid snow]

gotta love how fast v8 is

because everyone builds on the assumption everyone will run it in chrome

[fast pagoda]

chrome just doesn't sweat at some stuff that makes firefox crawl for me

yeah

[rigid snow]

i mean it's still laggy for me in chrome

but yeah

[autumn ore]

guys yall do stuff and give @amber fractal your ui desing ideads

[amber fractal]

I'm lucky I spent time in design, just quickly figuring out what the codebase is

[fast pagoda]

what is the UI for

i have ideas

they're terrible

but i have them

[amber fractal]

Bet

[fast pagoda]

im a moderntkinter expert

[autumn ore]

or just igve normal ideas

should i make a project thread

[amber fractal]

@fast pagoda this

[fast pagoda]

ahh ok

[autumn ore]

and change the link to github.io/neuroplace

[amber fractal]

Has to be strictly neuro related or else it gets bonked by mods

[autumn ore]

okie

well this i sig

[fast pagoda]

well looking at it it's pretty much html/css/js without anything else which is based but also you could use like tailwind

[autumn ore]

i mean the backend consists of just like the grid

so we can

ill add u as a contrib

is ur user afuntun

[fast pagoda]

afunyun

on like gh? yeah afunyun

[autumn ore]

lemme add u

[amber fractal]

@autumn ore not the best at js, think you can add something to collapse the sidebar?

[autumn ore]

i could

[fast pagoda]

what is the main repo

https://github.com/ytsodacan/rplace247 ?

[amber fractal]

ye

[autumn ore]

yeah thats the frontend

added you

[amber fractal]

at least you can pull that down and it still works

easier time than erroring due to not being on the github

[autumn ore]

ill only cvchnage the backend if we need it in the frontend

[fast pagoda]

https://afunyun.github.io/aifunyun/ i have a sidebar collapse going here it basically took over 9000 years to implement

lemme clone it and look at it

[autumn ore]

accept my invite

[fast pagoda]

aye aye capn

hit read all
10 failed ci runs open in tabs

thanks

[autumn ore]

we need 5to rework the entire site

and maybe use tailwind

[fast pagoda]

i would redo it in like react

[autumn ore]

we could

does react have really easy to implement ui

i dont use it that much

[fast pagoda]

yeah i find it very simple

could break it into a few components like <Canvas> <ControlBar> <PixelLog>
and slap like material-UI library in there boom

[amber fractal]

I'm just editing what exists as I haven't used any libs suprigingly enough

[olive sable]

Damn, i bought train tickets till in ans, but i need to go further

[autumn ore]

@fast pagoda @amber fractal renamed the respository to neuro.place

[fast pagoda]

the greatest readme of all time

[autumn ore]

new link https://ytsodacan.github.io/neuro.place/

[fast pagoda]

mfw codeium is active in wsl
that'll have to change

[autumn ore]

https://tenor.com/view/i-do-not-understand-cat-huh-cat-confused-unsure-gif-8633574407582093672

[fast pagoda]

i try all the AI code assists once in a while just to see how they're doin, give a task then cry at the results

codeium is one

well i guess it's called windsurf now

[autumn ore]

oh crap i killed the serve rby accident

[fast pagoda]

F

[amber fractal]

Removed the most annoying scrollbar in history, feeling good

[autumn ore]

its back up

[olive sable]

Bought the rest for another 5 bucks

[fast pagoda]

i wish houston had trains

[olive sable]

Too bad

[fast pagoda]

are you on a branch iggly

nvm there's just main

[amber fractal]

Nope, compiling a few changes before opening a new one

[fast pagoda]

lmk when i'll merge into this one i just made to fart around with

[opaque wharf]

Sam is now Sam Gamgee confirmed

[olive sable]

?

[opaque wharf]

"I'm going on an adventure"

[olive sable]

what is the gamgee supposed to be?

[fast pagoda]

that's his name

in lotr

[olive sable]

and nah i depart in like an hour or 5

[fast pagoda]

sam gamgee

[autumn ore]

what are yall up to

[opaque wharf]

Samwise Gamgee

[fast pagoda]

well so far biome has changed like 2 lines in script.js

as a formatter code action

[olive sable]

crying in "wglSwapBuffers is using 71.7% of the cpu time"

[fast pagoda]

was waiting for iggly to commit what he's doing

[autumn ore]

im waiting for a commit too

[fast pagoda]

[amber fractal]

I'm pushing the commmit, had an extra to do

[olive sable]

i can understand how it might use a lot at 6K fps, but i was hoping to go higher and this is limiting me rn

[amber fractal]

I'm not as fast with coding as some of the others here

[fast pagoda]

no rush lmao i was just answering le question

[olive sable]

if im coding fast, it means i used chatgpt

[fast pagoda]

chatgpt big wpm

[autumn ore]

i mean i used chatgpt for a bit to fix the selection bug

[olive sable]

i use it daily, mainlky cuz im not used to c++

[fast pagoda]

i fixed my local repo to use the right remote WITHOUT destroying my entire local repo

i'm so proud of myself

[autumn ore]

(the entire script totally wasnt written by ai)

[olive sable]

that expalins the shit performance lmao

[autumn ore]

what, i dont know js

i know css html

some lua

apple shortcuts

[opaque wharf]

Bro, wdym 6K?

[amber fractal]

fuck it we push main

[autumn ore]

pulling

[opaque wharf]

#programming and chaos

[amber fractal]

Small edits for now

[amber fractal]

6000 fps currently

it do be faster than python

(by 1.5x)

[olive sable]

in python we were cpu limited to 4k in 1080p

now im doing cpu limited to 6k in 1080p

[autumn ore]

ill be back soon

im going to make a figma design

[opaque wharf]

Perform async i/o read and do it in separate thread

[fast pagoda]

i started a branch

[amber fractal]

Sound whenever it exist should also be on another thread

[autumn ore]

cool

[olive sable]

the funny thing is, i cant use the same multithreading in local as on web

so every single thing i multitheread will need 2 files

[fast pagoda]

and by that i mean, formatter changed one(1) line slightly in 2 files

so i pushed that ish

[opaque wharf]

Oh right, there's that too lmao

[amber fractal]

Ah yes, the multi process apporach

it just is two processes with a random socket

[fast pagoda]

doesn't the GIL mean you can only exec python on one thread anyways

[olive sable]

i already tried to optemize this with the commented out code, but it caused webgl to shit itself

cuz multithreading

lemme see if i get more fps tho

[opaque wharf]

I'm loving the chaos that happens today

[amber fractal]

As long as it isn't AI, I do love this chaos

[opaque wharf]

The torture AI? Yeah

[olive sable]

ye 6.3k eitherway

no real diffrence cuz thats not the botleneck

[opaque wharf]

Yeah I forgot you were doing lots of buffer shenanigans. That means batching

[fast pagoda]

https://svelte.dev/ might be more ideal for this particular use because thinking about the react DOM trying to handle a whole pixel canvas is giving me second thoughts

i mean it would work but it's not compiled in the way that something like svelte is, react pretty much would re-render like
the whole canvas
for a websocket update because it'll essentially re-run the component + all child components each update

[olive sable]

the buffer shenanigans are not that bad i feel

lemme push the cod

[fast pagoda]

svelte would already know what needs to be updated in the dom

[amber fractal]

Anything for the canvas to not cause a meltdown

Honestly that is my main issue tbh

[olive sable]

https://github.com/samvanmaele/game-engine-cpp
behold my holy codebase

its actually not that bad this time

im pretty happy with most of this code

[opaque wharf]

Do the processing on the separate worker? Canvas can be rendered off the main thread right?

[amber fractal]

I'm not sure personally. @fast pagoda thoughts?

[fast pagoda]

sorry was renaming branch lule

it would be good yes

[rigid snow]

you don't handle a canvas through a vdom

or through react at all actually

and that's not "best practice" or whatever it's just not a fucking thing

[fast pagoda]

that's what i was thinking to do originally which is why im reconsidering

[olive sable]

the only batshit crazy part of this code is the litle hack i had to pull to make emscripten accept a class function as the main loop function

[rigid snow]

react-three-fiber is a thing tho but that's completely different

[fast pagoda]

was thinking if using react would use like useRef to handle <canvas> and then messing with it through useState/setState w/ a useEffect hook for the mouse events

[rigid snow]

that's fine

[opaque wharf]

Welcome to the chaos

[fast pagoda]

i was just thinking that setState would essentially trigger a whole rerender

i could be stupid af though

[rigid snow]

if no changes in dom it doesn't do anything

[amber fractal]

Canvas is a single element, that's the issue

[rigid snow]

you're confusing react rerenders with dom updates

[fast pagoda]

yes i think you are right

so it wouldn't be as horrible as i was afraid of

[opaque wharf]

It should not do that if you don't manipulate the DOM

[amber fractal]

The only way this would work is if it were a SVG/Table but that is a warcrime with how large the grid is.

[autumn ore]

its 500x500

[amber fractal]

250000 element list

[autumn ore]

could make it bigger with optimisation

[rigid snow]

10 second rerenders

on a good day

[opaque wharf]

Don't know about other framework but if you want to track mouse position inside element Vue has this
https://vueuse.org/core/useMouseInElement/

So you could track the pointer position and only perform update to the canvas when needed

Such as after confirming the pixel placement

[fast pagoda]

my thought was action like mouse moevement triggers onMouseMove
inside the state handler we then calculate new offsets
once we set those it would trigger a rerender right here which reruns everything in the component
react then creates a new vdom to compare diffs but there would be no diff to worry about so no DOM update
so the real overhead would just be comparing the "diff" that doesn't do anything i guess

i wasnt thinking in terms of canvas being its own self contained single element

[olive sable]

bruh does intel expect me to read assembly?

[opaque wharf]

Wait, onclick also provides the X-Y coordinate no?

[amber fractal]

Grab the guidebook for asm, chop chop

[opaque wharf]

Then you don't even need to track the position all the time

[fast pagoda]

true

just dont update any state unless clicking a spot

ignore the whole thing

but zooming would be slow

[amber fractal]

(It already is slow as balls)

[fast pagoda]

that's true lmao

[opaque wharf]

I don't work with canvas directly lmao

[rigid snow]

useEffect(() => {
  const listener = (e: MouseMoveEvent) => { // i think it's that type?
    // update state or whatever based on mouse pos
  };
  canvasRef.current.addEventListener("mousemove", listener);
  return () => canvasRef.current.removeEventListener("mousemove", listener);
}, []);

[opaque wharf]

I just use marker.js and call it a day

[olive sable]

why dont you just, actually zoom in on the render instead of the entire asset?

[opaque wharf]

Just mouse event IIRC

[olive sable]

idk how this works but cant you just render to a buffer if a block changes?

[amber fractal]

Canvas is basically a buffer (correct me if I'm wrong)

[olive sable]

a lot of things can be buffers

you're not limited to 1

[rigid snow]

everything is a buffer that's right

[olive sable]

i mean like, if the canvas itself is too laggy to move around and zoom in on, dont move it around and just render it to a png or whatever and move that around

[opaque wharf]

I'm not gonna try btw

[olive sable]

bro does not have glew installed and it shows smh

[rigid snow]

that’s not the issue. are you familiar with figma? the whole thing is a canvas

[olive sable]

nope

[opaque wharf]

I know, what I mean is I'm not going to install it kek. Currently doing something else now

[olive sable]

okay

[amber fractal]

I've only used figma during my graphic design course

never again

[rigid snow]

figma is goated

[olive sable]

figma balls

[amber fractal]

Past me's shortcut name

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I'd do it again

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-fucking-do-it-again-ill-do-it-again-again-goofy-gif-21090281

[opaque wharf]

I just re-read all of the MDN spec

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/zoom

CSS can zoom canvas

[rigid snow]

no

don’t use that

also it’s not gonna scale the pixel density

which i think i s what you want

[opaque wharf]

I think for pixel placement it doesn't matter?

[rigid snow]

but it’s gonna be blurry

[opaque wharf]

Indeed

[amber fractal]

That's an issue yep

[opaque wharf]

But its fast tho

[rigid snow]

fixing perf issues with css

[fast pagoda]

excuse me while i fight with npx sv create because the guide i was reading that says use npm create svelte is outdated apparently

[opaque wharf]

Hey there are people here that oppose the idea of js run on the web lol

[amber fractal]

Hmmm, How bad would it be to just calulate a subsection of the grid on the fly (besides the idea of moving the grid being the most jank code on the planet)

[opaque wharf]

Maybe take a look at marker.js zoom implementation there

[fast pagoda]

we're gaming so far lads

[opaque wharf]

My idea is to just have the pixel placement be separated from the render state

The renderer will accept the pixel placement and pan position to then render it on the canvas

[rigid snow]

tailwind v4 is standalone

[fast pagoda]

yeah ive noticed

[rigid snow]

i think that’s what it’s saying

[opaque wharf]

So the pixel placement state is an array of 500x500, each with rgb value. The render state is the zoom and current panning position/offset

[fast pagoda]

well i tossed vite into the mix

and it generally wants to use postCSS to mess with css variables

and that's not playing nice with tailwind

ootb

[autumn ore]

whats up

[opaque wharf]

Chaos as usual

[fast pagoda]

installing 10000 dependencies to use tailwind + vite + svelte

[amber fractal]

Inflated runtime cost for two snippits of code

afyunyn plz ping once the figma is done, I want to do some more reading

[noble zodiac]

one would think that plain html and css are highly contagious diseases that can only be approached with 20 layers of indirection

[autumn ore]

ill add u two to the figmje once i create it

playing roblox rn

[olive sable]

ye idk how this Vtune works, the swapbuffers is down to 5% cuz i changed some compiler settings

it can probably just see what the cause is better now

[autumn ore]

@amber fractal @fast pagoda sdont forget the serve rlink

[opaque wharf]

-Ofast be like

[rigid snow]

if you want something more complicated than a blogpost then yes, that’s exactly correct

[autumn ore]

@amber fractal @fast pagoda what are yalls emails so i can add yall to the figma

[rigid snow]

exactly correct might be the stupidest combination of words i’ve ever produced

don’t put them here

[amber fractal]

insert cash or card here

[noble zodiac]

I've done plenty web projects of varying complexity and can't say that it ever scarred me for life to do css and html

[rigid snow]

“no tip” covered with a sticker

[rigid snow]

oh are you referring to react and tailwind then

it’s not because css or html are hard

[autumn ore]

looks like im buying dev mode

[rigid snow]

you don’t need that

[autumn ore]

need to export to react

so we dont have to recreatew

[rigid snow]

it assumes a perfect mockup which even people paid to do figma don’t ever do

from my experience

[amber fractal]

Much better to reimplment

[rigid snow]

visually recreating isn’t that hard anyways

the hard part is behavior

[autumn ore]

looks like i aint wasting my money then

[fast pagoda]

https://stitch.withgoogle.com/

[autumn ore]

simple design for mobile

sorta finsihed desktop layout

should i implement

[rigid snow]

this is sure something

[autumn ore]

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en"><head>
<meta charset="utf-8"/>
<meta content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0" name="viewport"/>
<title>Neuro.Place</title>
<script src="https://cdn.tailwindcss.com"></script>
<link href="https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Inter:wght@400;500;600;700&amp;display=swap" rel="stylesheet"/>
<link href="https://fonts.googleapis.com/icon?family=Material+Icons" rel="stylesheet"/>
<style>
body {
font-family: 'Inter', sans-serif;
}
</style>
</head>
<body class="bg-gray-100 flex flex-col min-h-screen">
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<div class="container mx-auto px-4">
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[olive sable]

the 71% swapbuffer has now become "unknown stack frames"

how does that help

??

intel vtune wtf

[fast pagoda]

vtune just kicked in YO

[olive sable]

im like "vtune what is causing the botleneck"
and vtune is like " shit dawg i have no fucking clue what im even lookign at"

[opaque wharf]

Fun isn't it?

[rigid snow]

no it looks like crap

[opaque wharf]

How do you guys get 8 hours of sleep in under 2 hours?

[opaque wharf]

Hence the fun

[rigid snow]

my sleep schedule shifts constantly, i know it looks like i'm up seemingly 24 hours but it's different days

[fast pagoda]

https://pixijs.com/

looks neat

[autumn ore]

ai implemented the design for me

[fast pagoda]

that looked like stitch lol

yuge

[autumn ore]

that could work

ok guys i have to shut down the server

for a bit

@fast pagoda @amber fractal https://ytsodacan.github.io/neuro.place/experimental design.html

[fast pagoda]

oh yeah i noticed the server is kill

[autumn ore]

Yeah

I had to shut down my of

Pc

[fast pagoda]

not your onlyfans

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[fast pagoda]

well at least that confirms that my server integration is working normally

[olive sable]

i have discovered that the SDL_GL_SwapWindow(window); is indeed using a lot of cpu

without it i get no video output, but i do get 50K fps

[opaque wharf]

I sure hope it doesn't do what I think it do

[olive sable]

it swaps the buffers

berween what is written to and what is displayed

[opaque wharf]

Oh, then safe. But why must it be called window. I thought it swap the entire app window instance lol

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

lmaooo this was feeling scuffed so i ran biome lint

some errors

just a couple

[ruby timber]

[fast pagoda]

something has gone horribly wrong

it goes for so long

way longer than this video

[ruby timber]

why is it all outputting to stdout

[fast pagoda]

it just does by default

it seems

i JUST bun add --dev @biomejs/biome

and ran it

and that's what it's doing lol

[ruby timber]

Something has, in fact, gone terribly wrong

[fast pagoda]

i think it's detecting a shitload of vite output generated garbage files

now why it's generating that much trash output

good question

[opaque wharf]

Oh, you should try to back read lol

[opaque wharf]

Try to change the biome.json to use VCS, it will then use the .gitignore file

[fast pagoda]

i just didn't realize vite would be blasting that much random junk into a temp dir

[uneven pulsar]

    public static void haltCondition(){
        int[] numbers = {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10};
        for (int i = 0; i < numbers.length; i++) {
            if (numbers[i] % 2 == 0) {
                Vector<Integer> vector = new Vector<>();
                vector.add(numbers[i]);
                numbers[i] = vector.get(0);
                System.out.println("Even number found: " + numbers[i]);   
            }
            if (numbers[i] == 6) {
                System.out.println("Halt condition met at index " + i + " with value " + numbers[i]);
                break;
            }
        }
        
    }

alan turning halt concept is really fascinating

[noble zodiac]

why the vector

[uneven pulsar]

THEY always meet at 5 and 6

[noble zodiac]

?

[rigid snow]

make your tailwind look like bootstrap 2025 tutorial

[stark needle]

??? Bwaa???

[rigid snow]

[noble zodiac]

bwa indeed

[uneven pulsar]

idk i though i can add many vectors and increment them so the halt condition doesn't fail and since they well meet a 5 and 6

if i made the numbers from a range of 1 to 6 they would meet at 2 3

[stark needle]

🫠

[noble zodiac]

Vector<Integer> vector = new Vector<>();
vector.add(numbers[i]);
numbers[i] = vector.get(0);

You allocate a vector, put a single number in it, then get the number from it again and then just drop the whole vector

no?

whats that for

[uneven pulsar]

thats the condition

i always keep to 5 to 6 looping inside the same argument

when i aded 0 it went from 6 to 6

wait yea its no use

[olive sable]

i like having more wait time than time elapsed

breaking the laws of phyiscs

[fast pagoda]

well now that it's using the .gitignore properly it's much less terrifying

extremely classic that the only remaining issue is a random any given it's me

[noble zodiac]

https://www.wakunguma.com/blog/rust-weird-expr

[near sundial]

Guess what

I'm back

[desert plaza]

💀

[near sundial]

So

Abt slothy

He's been able to get some improvements