programming

[stray dragon]

one of the top tier colleges i assume?

[tiny mango]

pass it on to the chumps who have to pay it

full ride, babey

[tiny mango]

nah, just a private school

we have ponies and golf!

[stray dragon]

crazy

[unkempt citrus]

Your own domain or have the service provide a domain for you?

Adding your own domain is usually free but you'll have to pay someone else

[tiny mango]

it pays itself with connections, without fully leaking stuff it's a co-op school

you take at least two semesters "off" in full-time employment, but a bachelors is 5 years

[stray dragon]

still a crazy amount for just connections

[ivory tiger]

average international fees

[tiny mango]

Same rate for everyone

Lots of financial aid, though -- esp based on merit

[cobalt sigil]

I mean i own a custom domain

[cobalt sigil]

i own a domain

[tiny mango]

You own a custom domain and want to use a template site to design it?

[cobalt sigil]

but most website builders dont allow these custom domain

I have to pay to use my own domain

[cobalt sigil]

yes

i’ve looked at wix, wordpress, canva, carrd, they looks good BUT they dont support custom domain (i have to pay for pro)

[tiny mango]

A little hard to do without having to write code yourself, but there is plenty out there you can just copy + paste

[cobalt sigil]

any suggestions

like how cuz im kinda new to this

[tiny mango]

Yeah, just be wary of whether or not you can use the code for personal/commercial things

codepen is great for finding individual components but isn't really meant to be something you rip from

[unkempt citrus]

The lazy solution is just to set it up as a redirect

[tiny mango]

Also found this guy from a google search for free site template code:
https://templatemo.com/

[cobalt sigil]

:o?

[unkempt citrus]

Or yeah you can self host

[cobalt sigil]

i mean i use cloudfare to host my domain rn

[unkempt citrus]

So why do you want a website builder?

Is it just cos you hate front end?

[cobalt sigil]

to build a webiste?

now im using google sites ngl

[unkempt citrus]

So cos you hate front end

[tiny mango]

good design is tough

[unkempt citrus]

I hate front end too

[tiny mango]

you can love something and be dogwater at it

(golf, chess, poker)

[cobalt sigil]

redirect?

very safe i can confirm totally wont get ur windows hacked

[amber fractal]

As someone who has done web, css hurts the soul

[tiny mango]

Not sure if redirecting is the play here -- there is still a site to design

Unless you're okay w paying for a custom domain only for it to route to dshkjsdjfh.wix...

[unkempt citrus]

https://feelcrafting.com/ https://keqingmains.com/ https://kqm.gg is an example, feelscraft just copies keqingmains

[cobalt sigil]

nah

[unkempt citrus]

But still keeps feelscrafting as the url

kqm.gg redirects completely to keqingmains

[tiny mango]

then download a template here and publish to your domain

[cobalt sigil]

i get what you mean so when u type for example abc.com it directs you to abc.wix.com, right

[tiny mango]

and the brain, and the kneecaps

[unkempt citrus]

yeah but all the links and shit are still abc.com in the feelscrafting example

[cobalt sigil]

ima book mark it mhm

[amber fractal]

Always the kneecaps

[tiny mango]

this solution may be easier for you, your site just references and pulls all the styling/info from the .wix site

[tiny mango]

but never the elbows, for some reason?

[unkempt citrus]

Why would you take elbows when you can go for thumbs

[amber fractal]

Keeps you functional for as long as possible to keep stripping more

[tiny mango]

Love me a man with some nice elbows

thumbs? not so much

"nice thumbs, babe"
^ new catcall

[cobalt sigil]

hmm that gives me a bit hope
one add-on question: like it redirects the user from abc.com to abc.wix.com
So which domain name does the client see

abc.com or abc.wix.com

[unkempt citrus]

either depending on how you set it up

[tiny mango]

client sees abc

abc copies abc.wix

[cobalt sigil]

Ahhhhhhhhhh

i think this might be what im looking for

[tiny mango]

ditto, but you want what I said methinks

[unkempt citrus]

Yeah I think so too

[tiny mango]

Sorry to keep re-explaining what you're doing a good job saying, Possum

[unkempt citrus]

so its like x.com and twitter.com

same website different url

[cobalt sigil]

Now i just need to figure how do i do that

[unkempt citrus]

which ever you see is based on which you access it from

[cobalt sigil]

is it modifiable via cloudfare

[unkempt citrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CloudFlare/comments/1ekcr6f/i_built_a_free_tool_to_mirror_any_website_using/ this might be what you want

maybe

[tiny mango]

fair warning, wix hiding the feature behind a paywall and using cloudflare's features to rip styling is likely going to violate some copyright stuff with wix and cloudflare's "acceptable use" policies

tread carefully

[amber fractal]

There is technically a redirect that keeps the url but is bad for many reasons

[unkempt citrus]

but general solution is domain mirroring

[cobalt sigil]

Sorry wdym

[tiny mango]

I'm out of my depth here but if wix doesn't want you copying their templates for free and you're finding a way to do that then you're skirting around a few rules

[opaque wharf]

As in, the feature is normally paid, but you do it for free. And Cloudflare as the provider will have none of their service used to break other service ToS

Also, just install wordpress if you hate frontend that much really

[cobalt sigil]

hmm ok

[cobalt sigil]

is wordpress better or wix

or other website design

[opaque wharf]

Oh, between the two then wix in terms of ease of use I guess

But if you want to do some tinkering

I'm sure cloudflare will be a better fit

They offer lots of things for free

The tinkering part is the issue

[tiny mango]

or just download one of the templates from earlier and watch any tutorial on porting that to your site

then just replace text to your heart's content

[cobalt sigil]

Mhm

[cobalt sigil]

does that require like any pc uh thing

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, you could host a static site for free. But no website builder

[tiny mango]

For ease of use, an IDE and an extension for you to see edits in real time

[opaque wharf]

But also, maybe you could find a website builder like Adobe Dreamweaver

So build the web somewhere else for free, export it, and upload it to cloudflare for free

[tiny mango]

!!

[cobalt sigil]

they mentioned this https://github.com/seadfeng/cloudflare-proxy-sites

[cobalt sigil]

good idea

[cobalt sigil]

i see

[opaque wharf]

Different strategy than what I am proposing. They just let you straight up use the free website builder as mirror. My idea is to download said website and then re upload it to cloudflare. It is different on the technical level of how it works

[cobalt sigil]

Sorry but id perfer using a free website builder then. I often have to modify websites and i’d like it to perform without a pc

I’ll try to figure how how to perform the above steps. Thank you all for helping!!

[tiny mango]

gn vedalites

[patent shard]

finally

[amber fractal]

Decent screen sharing soon

[olive sable]

Anyways goodnight, at 8am...

[stray dragon]

if you have your domain on cloudflare, you can go to their site, go to your domain, go to "Configure DNS", and then add an A record that redirects any access from the free website builder's stupid link to your desired domain

so the players that use the minecraft server i have can just type "mc3.letter-t.com" and connect to one of the servers

[gritty dust]

Tf you mean goodnight at 8am lol

[stray dragon]

you're in #programming, sleep schedules are a myth here

[stark needle]

Ok this is an L statement

bro mentioned ANYTHING but the people whose data is taken

[sage crag]

[inner pike]

"Useful products" 💀

[uneven pulsar]

not crediting the owner data is stupid he just here to slap some innovational shit thinking would make a statement out of it

[uneven pulsar]

and why dose bro talk like grok asked him too

[ruby timber]

Morning!

[ember girder]

How looks like "hi" reaction in this channel?

[stray dragon]

either "hi" or

usually

[uneven pulsar]

you can talk in general for perms also morning

[uneven pulsar]

yo T

i mean t

[stray dragon]

hi ekness

how is frontend going

[uneven pulsar]

yo how you doing

[uneven pulsar]

preatty neat

[ember girder]

yep yep, sry for that

[stray dragon]

i am staying up for 30 hours today

[uneven pulsar]

i am trying to host a server with postgreSQL

[stray dragon]

oooooooh

[uneven pulsar]

crazy challenge

[stray dragon]

i use a self-hosted instance of postgresql myself

[uneven pulsar]

its great and easy

[uneven pulsar]

oo nice

[stray dragon]

tried 4 other databases and it was the best one i found so i went ahead with it

would recommend

[uneven pulsar]

tbh postgreSQL is a professional easy to use and support any amount of complex database you need

and uses main languages you need

its very great

i been like using it for my fan made steam api website back end

[stray dragon]

i need to implement buckets at some point, i have too many entries in the database and even with indexing + custom sql functions the search time is over a minute long in some cases lmao

the time scaling is not O(n) there and breaking it up into buckets should help with that

[sage crag]

press t to talk

[stray dragon]

t

[sage crag]

true!

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[sage crag]

hi t

[rough bloom]

pearto

[sage crag]

pear to

[scarlet arch]

[unkempt citrus]

https://x.com/sama/status/1876104315296968813?lang=en

Sam Altman (@sama)

insane thing: we are currently losing money on openai pro subscriptions!

people use it much more than we expected.

X · Jan 6, 2025, 3:11 AM

[uneven pulsar]

its just a failing monopoly

[spark vortex]

lmao

great!

just what i love to see

[azure tapir]

ew….

i dont like ai

wait i am in the wrong channel

[burnt aurora]

using a website building toolkit because you suck at html/css:
making your own perfect website by improving your html/css skills:
making your own shitty website because you suck at html/css (it's good enough):

[unkempt citrus]

Possibly, this is the programmer channel where we talk about programming and AI

And shit on LLM corps cos they suck

[azure tapir]

im ngl

i clicked this channel thinking it was chat

[shadow sinew]

Weird flex, but ok.

[noble zodiac]

Let me rephrase that: Insane, our product costs too much to run to be profitable

[stray dragon]

that's the "redirect" they mentioned earlier and should work fine

[jagged turtle]

great not news for everyone's training data (they get forgotton about)

[wary rover]

Too many people are using AI for "inspiration" and "creativity"

Profits plummet

[rigid snow]

you absolutely can use ai as inspo

how is it different than using any of the training data

[wary rover]

Yeah, I do. I just talk to DeepSeek and explain the effect of the issue that I am having, tell it to list possible typical errors and bugs it can be, explicitly mentioning to NOT write code for me and then write down all terminology that I didnt understand and search yp that stuff

[sage crag]

in principle nothing.

but from the perspective of human behaviour, it's "too useful" in a sense.
most people who use ai for "inspiration" will variably end up eventually just making the ai write/code/draw for them.

[wary rover]

But the bulk of AI operations are probably not from the people like me, but big corpo doing big corpo stuff

[sage crag]

it also removes a lot of agency, critical thinking, and experience you might have otherwise gained, for example, if you are researching a bug in your program.

[rigid snow]

oh i’m not talking about programming, i don’t even know what “inspiration” would mean in that context

[sage crag]

im also talking in general, i just provided a programming example.

another example would be if you got "inspiration" for writing a novel from chatgpt, but just made it write the novel for you

or if you got "inspiration" for solving an equation from chatgpt, but just made it solve it for you

[wary rover]

"List all possible ways to implement long-term storage of a program output" I wrote and it told me go read a book on hashmaps, serde, configs and other stuff. That's what I do rn

[rigid snow]

the point of seeking inspiration from things is to create yourself, at least for me

if i make the ai do it for me i didn’t make it and it’s a dealbreaker

[sage crag]

what are you even after with this question

a database?

[wary rover]

Config basically. You have a functions that catches a random fish, output gets stored and forms your collection. You can call collection_function and see everything you caught

[sage crag]

do you want to preserve it between program instances, or just keep it in a single instance of the program?

[wary rover]

Preserve

[sage crag]

the word config is kinda inaccurate

its more of a save-file

the way i would do it in rust is to use serde on some kind of struct representing the save data and then output that to a file

[wary rover]

Not arguing about that, I am constantly wrong about pretty much anything, but I learn new stuff

[wary rover]

Good idea, but I want to build a program that I can add stuff to. like Ill probably implement weight and some other modifiers to a fish that can be caught, so hashmap seems like a more future-proofed option

[sage crag]

a hashmap is not a database.

it's stored in only one instance of the program

[wary rover]

That is read and put into JSON file

[sage crag]

that's using serde with a struct representing the save data

use serde::{Serialize, Deserialize};

#[derive(Serialize, Deserialize)]
struct Fish { ... }

#[derive(Serialize, Deserialize)]
struct SaveData {
  fish: Vec<Fish>,
}

use std::{io::Result, fs::{read, write}};

fn main() -> Result<()> {
  // load save data
  let contents = read("/path/to/save/data")?;
  let save_data: SaveData = serde_json::from_str(&contents)?;

  // ... do what you want with it

  // write it back out
  write("/path/to/save/data", serde_json::to_string(&save_data)?)?;

  Ok(())
}

i would end up doing something like this

[rigid snow]

hashmap is fine for their case

because they want to keep track of how many fish are caught

[wary rover]

I mean, I gotta do something. If I constantly update and research the topic of a text-based fishing "game" I will end up never actually coding anything

[silver moon]

hi guys

[sage crag]

hi

[silver moon]

how do i program a minecraft mod

[wary rover]

Hi!

Very specific question

[sage crag]

for what version of minecraft

[rigid snow]

eh surely there’s a point when you can’t think of things to add

[unkempt citrus]

Well thats a new one

[rigid snow]

based question

sad answer

[sage crag]

dont feature-creep yourself into having every feature before you even start writing code

[rigid snow]

oh sure of course you gotta implement what you know first before making features up further

[unkempt citrus]

mvp with foresight for expansion

[wary rover]

"Well, actually, if I code everything in assembly and start processing data before computer fully reads the text file I can improve run time by 7 microseconds. Good thing that I didn't write anything yet and spent 5 years researching"

[rigid snow]

look you’re doing it in rust. that’s already kind of unreasonable for what you’re doing

what i mean is you don’t have to think of microoptimizations like at all

[wary rover]

I just picked rust cause it has a cool name. It's like picking a sport. Whatever seems cool - go for it

[rigid snow]

you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference anyways since it’s a cli game

oops not cli tui

[sage crag]

anyways this is my personal recommendation

[rigid snow]

there isn’t actually a tui

[sage crag]

you could do the same with a HashMap instead of a Vec but i dont see an explicit reason to. that will come down to your usecase though.

[rigid snow]

what do you call that in-between state

it’s not a cli neither a tui

[wary rover]

I am very grateful for help and recommendations and read them all and pick them apart very carefully, trying to learn from every line. Thank you for your effort

[sage crag]

cli with prompts or tui with minimal features

[rigid snow]

“cli with prompts” noted

[sage crag]

there's no strict divisor

a tui is a cli

(in a terminal)

[rigid snow]

tui outside of the terminal

[sage crag]

i would say provided your application doesnt fill the whole terminal, even if its still interactive it would be considered a cli (spicy or otherwise)

[sage crag]

yeh, tui only stands for "text-based user interface"

elvyn you gremlin

[rigid snow]

microsoft excel macros

[wary rover]

Just want to say that my method is posing a problem for myself and problemsolving and learning around this self-imposed task. Game is not a point. Point is to learn stuff while making it. And if I learned something - its success

[rigid snow]

storing thousands of identical strings in a json array and in memory to then have to count all instances of each fish type to render the collection screen

doesn’t sound like a good idea to me

do hashmap

[sage crag]

Vec<(Fish, usize)>

[rigid snow]

why when maps exist

[sage crag]

hashmap is super overkill, at least use a btreemap

[rigid snow]

oh my god it’s a cli game about catching fish who cares

[sage crag]

bwa

[rough bloom]

I can see the point in Vec<Fish> but this one really should just be a map

[rough bloom]

a BTreeMap is just a HashMap but worse

[sage crag]

its not worse, it has a different usecase

[rough bloom]

actually, when do you use a BTreeMap?
I don't think I've ever used it instead of a HashMap

[wary rover]

I know for a fact that I can extend the amount of thingies in a map. Like size, edition, type of fish if I want to. I don't know Vec good enough. In the worst case scenario my fish game wont be the most optimized fish game in the world AND I will know how to use and extend Hashmaps

[sage crag]

when you care about memory locality, ordering, maybe a range query, maybe sorted keys

[sage crag]

just use a hashmap if you want to

[rough bloom]

right, hashmaps aren't sorted, btreemaps are

[sage crag]

also if you cant hash something, or if there is no hasher (i.e. BTreeMap in rust is in core, but not HashMap is not in core)

though that's mostly arbitrary since HashBrown is available with no_std

[opaque wharf]

I have returned

[sage crag]

irony

[rigid snow]

you have to “know” vec even if there isn’t much to know about, it’s just a sequence of any items of one type that can grow and shrink in size

[rough bloom]

was about to say, you can hash pretty much everything, there is always a hasher

[opaque wharf]

Learn Java

[wary rover]

Then I will use Vec in my next "project"

Even if it's not optimal, just for the sake of it

[rigid snow]

look what we did to them

[wary rover]

The idea is that after 10+ projects like this I will know a lot of stuff and will be able to make judgements on optimility of methods that I use in a particular case

Which is good

[rigid snow]

even then modding specifically kinda sucks

or sucks a lot actually

tbh

[sage crag]

i would generally say use BTreeMap if you care about memory efficiency or need decent performance in sequential lookups.
HashMap is generally better for random access, but also requires that your memory is hashable and comparable for equality, whereas btrees only require that you can order them

for things with keys that are small, BTreeMap can be more efficient because you dont require hashing

the benefit is apparent if the keys are integers for example, which can be compared in a single instruction

hashmap is still better for integer keys if you care about random access though

[opaque wharf]

First I rant about academia and publishing open science. Now games. Dangjt, why can't we have nice things for once

[rigid snow]

yes they made a lot of things data driven but not everything and the client/server arch just sucks ass in minecraft modding specifically

[opaque wharf]

Y'll from the EU should've promote stop killing games harder

[opaque wharf]

Is there ANYTHING that doesn't suck in Java?

[rigid snow]

there is no clear separation of what’s being called where and if you just import the wrong class in the wrong place everything crashes and burns

[wary rover]

Who kills games? Games are fun why would they do tthat

[opaque wharf]

Oddly enough, the publihser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIfRLujXtUo

[wary rover]

Makes sense

Then just make more fun games. Problem solved

[opaque wharf]

If only they did just that

[wary rover]

Most of the non-indie games are ass in general, because you cannot impose one unified and solid vision and idea onto 1000+ employees. Most of the good games are made by one person or a group of friends

[scarlet arch]

ladies and gentlemen, my new team lead finally managed to convince upper management to allow me to use our software in my home lab

[rigid snow]

often one thing is called on both the client and server, and if you import the client side classes on the server you crash - so you have to do wrapper class gymnastics and first check the side, then call a method in a different class (which imports client side stuff) and that call should be wrapped in a lambda passed to a special guard so it doesn’t immediately import the class the method is from so it doesn’t import the client side classes

this is forge, never did fabric but i’d imagine it’s similar

[wary rover]

Imagine making a mod pack and resolving conflicts between mods

[rigid snow]

forge architecture not being centered around mixins and requiring this sort of fuckery actually helps mod compat a lot

nowadays it’s pretty hard to get two incompatible mods if you actually choose mods that complement each other

based off vibes purely

[wary rover]

Vibe modding

[sage crag]

audio queue

[wary rover]

One of my friends who is in the same uni as me does spreadsheets and blueprints for boilers and heating contours, comes come, boots up minecraft and does same stuff there

God bless his soul, cannot imagine

[rigid snow]

you've clearly never heard of ETS/ATS

[wary rover]

I didnt, you guessed corrctly

[warped narwhal]

occasionally it is better to use it if you will always be accessing the data in order, as well as if you will be doing frequent searches by value instead of by key. for example, when I was writing a brainfuck interpreter, I used a Vec<(usize, usize)> for the loop table, instead of a map, as I would be frequently be searching through the array by the second item (doing this in a hash map will flatten the array)

[rigid snow]

euro/american truck simulator, what do you think the primary playerbase for those games are

[unkempt citrus]

And what do you think the primary player base of factorio and satisfactory are?

[wary rover]

Ah, like farming games. Where farmers can experience their wildest dream come true - turnng a profit

[sage crag]

bwabwabwa

[unkempt citrus]

Okay butdid you factor in the declining us dollar and the rise in the gold price?

[wary rover]

"when I was writing a brainfuck interpreter"

[uneven pulsar]

DID ANY ONE SAY BRAINFUCK?

-------------+----+--------

[warped narwhal]

-[------->+<]>.-[->++++<]>.>-[--->+<]>-.------------.+.+++++.---.---[->++++<]>.>-[--->+<]>--.----.--.--------.++++++++++.-.---------.-[-->+<]>--.>-[--->+<]>--.---[->++++<]>+.++++++++.-----.[-->+<]>--.+[->++<]>.>-[--->+<]>---.--[->++++<]>+.++++++++.+++++.--------.>-[--->+<]>.-[----->+<]>-.++++++++.-[-->+<]>----.

yes, discord has highlighting for brainfuck

for some reason

[rough bloom]

yeah, if you need a sequence or are often doing lookups in both directions then a Vec is good
in this particular case I wouldn't use a Vec<(Fish, usize)> because, assuming Fish specifies the kind of fish and the usize is the amount, it would allow a single kind of fish to have multiple entries in the list
the representation as a list allows weird states that a map doesn't

[uneven pulsar]

OMG

[wary rover]

Understandable, have an incomprehensive day

[uneven pulsar]

today i made a gambling predictor code

using json and python

[rigid snow]

why wouldn't it have BF syn highlighting if it has this

[wary rover]

Yes, boyfriend synchronization is very important

[uneven pulsar]

guys i made a gambling predictor algorithm help

[wary rover]

monte carlo simulator?

Or smt else?

[rigid snow]

mhm predicting randomness

[uneven pulsar]

The top winner is gambler1 with $64.4 won

its acutally a real value of spanish gambler

[wary rover]

the only reasonable conclusion from this fact is that you have made an omniscient god in python, sacrifice something to it to gain its favor

[opaque wharf]

By predicting the seed used by the RNG

[wary rover]

I always wondered if unprecise simulations of complex physical processes can be used as a randomness generator

Like if you have a pendulum and you keep adding hands on it, so its a pendulum on a pendulum on a pendulum ... Eventually your margin of error for a predicted position of the last pendulum will reach 180 degrees

So you no longer know what in the f is going on

[rigid snow]

ok i happen to know about at least online gambling a bit, how most provably fair systems work is: they choose some provable source of a random value like a bitcoin block hash, then they hash that N amount of times keeping track of every hash, then they replay that backwards using each hash as a seed for each game and when this pool of games ends they reveal the bitcoin hash to prove every game in this pool was fair

the hashes from that list are used as a base seed for each game but they add contextual data to it & some places allow you to contribute your own string to be appended to the hash

but for games where many people participate like roulette for example you can’t add your own seed and that means the house knows the outcome of each game beforehand

this info can be outdated btw most of this knowledge is from like 5-6 years ago, i don’t actively research online gambling

but i’d imagine little changed if anything did

[rigid snow]

online casinos make money not off of rigging games, they make money because they mathematically do

[unkempt citrus]

statistically, not mathematicaly

Their margin is like 2% but over thousands of bets it ads up

[rigid snow]

right

[wary rover]

This reminds me of a story where a guy played sexual AI chat bot game and his only goal was to not get any sexual interactions for as long as possible and all the funny ways he failed at it

[unkempt citrus]

and also they ban anyone who wins too much

[rigid snow]

so do irl casinos

[opaque wharf]

No, unprecise simulation is still deterministic

[opaque wharf]

If anything, it should be regulated so people don't get fucked over it. Here it"s banned so online gambling may or may not be rigged

[rigid snow]

it can’t be regulated in a traditional sense

if some casino is geoblocked people just use a vpn

if you’re talking purely rigged/non-rigged then most do have some license

making it legal to operate

at least in A jurisdiction

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, this is what I meant by regulation. So people can see that they are truly gambling instead of getting their ass beaten

[rigid snow]

you’ll lose either way

[opaque wharf]

At least you'll lose with style

[rigid snow]

which should mean fair and not rigged

idk if it does necessarily

a big one is curaçao, they specifically sell online gaming licenses to online casinos and probably make bank considering they’re a small island

[maiden geyser]

cyberbullying victims when i tell them to shut the 'puter down

[dusky jackal]

LMAO

[tiny mango]

goodmorning goodmorning

On gambling, because I love it: there’s a channel that does dissections of odds for various online games to put into perspective how much you’re on the line to lose

A recent one was the gem mining game, where you have a grid and choose how many gems are hidden and click until you find a bomb and subsequently lose it all (or stop before you do)

Interesting risk/reward breakdown there, and he found some variables used in calculating winnings himself. Was cool

[rigid snow]

i don’t need a channel to figure out that my average gain is <0

[tiny mango]

Well duh, but it’s always cool to see how much stuff is gamed and where profits come in for the casino

For a few people, understanding just how unlikely it is to win is a good (even if something seems appealing) basis for not playing

[rigid snow]

it’s not unlikely you win that’s not the point

the point is the more you play the more you lose

[uneven pulsar]

you can see mine if interested

[tiny mango]

Wording, I meant the latter/general idea of being up long-term while gambling

[tiny mango]

Channel? Sure!

[uneven pulsar]

let me share you the code

[rigid snow]

saved, thought i was gonna witness a murder

[uneven pulsar]

just make a json file for the data

i should post this to my github page

it requires like a good cpu maybe a i5 12000F

or a r5 9800x

[tiny mango]

Godspeed

[uneven pulsar]

it dose many calculation and its 60% accurate

[opaque wharf]

Same

[tiny mango]

Me too

[tiny mango]

To this

[opaque sigil]

TIL you cannot have a ProcessPoolExecutor on windows with more than 61 workers

cool so windows won't let you wait on more than 64 handles, guess that explains it then

[warped narwhal]

a what?

[uneven pulsar]

i had to fix it its now on my github page

[uneven pulsar]

s ryzen 5 9800x

[warped narwhal]

you mean a ryzen 7 9800x?

[uneven pulsar]

no ryzen 5 9800x

[uneven pulsar]

my cpu is weak for it

[warped narwhal]

if you don't have the pro version I think you are limited to 64 cores as well

pro is limited to 128 cores

[uneven pulsar]

it wont work for me cuz i am using an old dell laptop

if you have some strong cpu it should work fine

[opaque sigil]

i was going to question this but yknow what, i believe it

[uneven pulsar]

you can modify how many simulation you want

[warped narwhal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_editions#Comparison_chart here is the wiki page listing the limitations (the limitations are the same on windows 11)

[trim valve]

mmm cables

[winged zodiac]

Hello ?

[maiden geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-whar-erm-whar-confused-cat-huh-what-gif-4052880542927116908

[winged zodiac]

I’m new

[opaque wharf]

That looks like something used for amateur radio

The 3.5mm and 2.5mm next to each other usually located on the side of a walkie-talkie

[trim valve]

I'm pretty sure it's just and audio and video cable

because there's a l/r RCA, then RGB breakouts

[olive sable]

Dont fear, i am here

Goodmorning

[opaque wharf]

It could be

I just never see a system use 3.5mm and 2.5mm TRRS for video

What I do know is Red/White is usually audio channel, no idea about green/yellow and blue

Oh, its YCbCr

[olive sable]

the negotiations are going

that 3090 would be poggers

[gritty dust]

Is that Thee SamVanMaele

[olive sable]

in the flesh

and other body parts

[gritty dust]

[lime stag]

Building ai for fun (bored)

[nocturne olive]

Silly

[cosmic sphinx]

https://blog.google/technology/developers/introducing-gemini-cli-open-source-ai-agent/

[olive sable]

i love micro managing code to make it faster

[nocturne olive]

Game engine C++ edition going well?

[olive sable]

yes

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

the built in function for the view matrix is masive, so im makling my own

[tender river]

note that massive doesnt mean slow

[nocturne olive]

I'm very much looking forward to finally having a 3090, my prediction is it'll get me up from a measly 3 batch size to something as high as 12, which would mean a NeuroSynth with much higher quality, much faster

[olive sable]

it normalizes and does multiplle cross products, so while its only ms diffrence it is slower

it does use indices of a mat4 instead of making 4 vec4, which is faster so im stealing that

[nocturne olive]

Imagine a NeuroSynth with more compute and training time dedicated to it along with higher overall training quality
If BETA-3 can already do so much stuff, I can't wait to see what a higher quality model can do

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

And even if it still takes 30 hours to train the model, at least I will be able to use my PC for other stuff in the meantime as the 3090 can function independent of the 4070Ti

[olive sable]

just got conformation from school, i passed my exams and graduated

[nocturne olive]

Peak

[opaque wharf]

What higher ed will you pursue?

[dry charm]

love when remote has no power

[olive sable]

bachelor independant game production

[opaque wharf]

Mmhmm, wish you good luck on that path

[olive sable]

seems like the whole class passed

[opaque wharf]

Noice

[cosmic sphinx]

nice

[cosmic sphinx]

im receiving my bach diploma on 9th

graduating

[amber fractal]

We can't wait for the week on matrix multiplication in class

[opaque sigil]

cutlass

[opaque wharf]

As in the sword?

[olive sable]

matrix multiplication is ez

im a pro

[opaque wharf]

Oh its CUDA related

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/NVIDIA/cutlass

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I just looked it up

[olive sable]

i doubt we're doing cuda, they're doing C#

[opaque wharf]

BLAS in general are cursed no?

[olive sable]

lemme get the roster

i like how the name of the bachelor is enough info to dox my school

[opaque wharf]

Or is it LAPACK? I forgot which one is cursed

[opaque sigil]

depends, generally no
if you want to hyper-optimise them then yea (but that's the same for hyper-optimising anything)

i never used LAPACK so idk

[opaque sigil]

can we ban white on #ff0000

[opaque wharf]

They have a new method that is faster for LAPACK IIRC, by not calculating the exact value but by random sampling on some other space

[opaque sigil]

funky

i like it

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, the courses are good. But I don't know how well the state of the gaming Industry is right now

[olive sable]

its absolute dogshit

but something i like doing so eh

[opaque sigil]

good thing games aren't the only medium that use computer graphics

[olive sable]

the last semester is an internship at a game dev company, possibly larian iirc

[opaque wharf]

True. But I wonder how the degree will hold up

[opaque wharf]

Noice

[olive sable]

https://www.digitalartsandentertainment.be/dae/files/Image/backgroundImages/DAE_bg_internship.jpg

welp

[opaque wharf]

Yep, its called Rand NLA apparently
https://youtu.be/6htbyY3rH1w?feature=shared

[olive sable]

ah it decided to embed

[opaque wharf]

Hmm, shame there is no Valve

[olive sable]

so ye i have no idea who half these studios are, but the whole thing with an internship is theat they need to be semi-local

larian started in belgium so they have their studio in ghent

idk where ubisoft is supposed to fit in, i guess youl need to go to france or germany?

[opaque sigil]

i was supposed to do an internship at ubisoft since they're local but eh

[olive sable]

ubisoft is probably the worst of those companies ngl

larian has a good reputation globally as a studio and locally as a business, but ubisoft...

ehat does alignas() do?

[opaque sigil]

changes the alignment

[olive sable]

i guess it jsut makes sure it alignes eventho there si no difrence?

struct alignas(16) viewmat
{
    glm::mat4 view;
};

[opaque sigil]

mostly useful when doing specific things like SIMD where things should be aligned by 16/32 bytes for example

[olive sable]

simd is nice

[opaque sigil]

according to clangd viewmat has a default alignment of 4 bytes so i guess it's for opengl since think they usually want 16 byte alignment?

[stone cedar]

it's a matrix, you probably want to load all 4 floats of a row for simd

[olive sable]

opengl is supposed to be 32bit so 4 bytes shoudl be good?

[opaque sigil]

good point actually

[olive sable]

wait ye it makes sense

in opengl a mat4 is just 4 vec4's. and each has to be individually aligned to 16 bytes

[opaque sigil]

there we go then

[olive sable]

it worked without it but i saw a dude on stackoverflow using it

[stone cedar]

For this its needed, don't know what glm does internally but there is an argument for doing it that way

[opaque sigil]

does sse not allow for unaligned loads (just checked, it does)

[olive sable]

i think glm does it already internally cuz its designed for graphics

[opaque sigil]

gpus are also very particular with their alignment (though it's usually much larger iirc)

[olive sable]

how long does karaoke ussualy take? cuz i dont want to be square but i have things to do today

[opaque wharf]

Now I wonder wtf happens at WarThunder forum as it is their 9th leak of confidential info

[olive sable]

i know people that play warthunder, they're all just doorknobs

"thats unfair, the abraham xyz tank is not supposed to be able to shoot more than 70 degrees to it left!!! here is a classified document showing why"

[opaque wharf]

Sounds fun to be there ngl

[stone cedar]

Yeah same, there is load_ps and loadu_ps at least according to intel's intrinsics guide there is no difference in latency and throughput between them. Might be a leftover from old architecture where one was a lot faster

[amber fractal]

I forgo that it was today

[olive sable]

camera transform mat seems to be working, now i just need to add distance and mouse control

[amber fractal]

Only twice smh

[nocturne olive]

[amber fractal]

I should watch stream mhm, I don't want to be square.

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, because you're not a round

[olive sable]

dfamn i have to go eat

right when it started

[opaque wharf]

You're now officially a square

[olive sable]

no wait i can listen to the beginning

and the end

[primal siren]

Im at work.
Im gonna be squared 🥲

[opaque wharf]

There, you're square now

[minor crag]

Quit.

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[minor crag]

Yayayaya

[amber fractal]

[minor crag]

This is Jörmungandr

[primal siren]

I dont know how i should feel avout that one?

What did you get... Sage role?

[amber fractal]

Yes

[minor crag]

Let me take a photo of nyx

This is nyx

Idk why she's sitting in the dirty corner of the tank

THEY HUGGING!

[gritty dust]

Peak programming

[stark needle]

OMG

[primal siren]

Butthug

[minor crag]

They help

[gritty dust]

forgot to ping me lol

[stark needle]

I love axolotls sm they are so silly

[minor crag]

Do you want a few hundred? Mine keep having babies whenever its hot outside

[amber fractal]

[primal siren]

[stark needle]

that would be so based😭 tho I can't afford to have animals and our apartment doesn't allow em i think as well

Aren't axolotls super endangered?

[minor crag]

Only in the wild (these were born captive)

[stark needle]

Axolotl behavior be like

[primal siren]

Cathy be holding the whole specie together be herself.

[stark needle]

Fr

[minor crag]

First time around they have like 1200 babies (that's what I counted)

[faint sandal]

https://github.com/nari-labs/dia/issues/239 who pissed in this dude's cereal today

[stark needle]

WHAT

1200????

[minor crag]

I think 700~ made it

[minor crag]

Something like that

[stark needle]

What do you do with em sell em?

[minor crag]

Yea

[stark needle]

How much does an axolotl go for actually

[minor crag]

I'm hoping they have babies again so I can afford laptop

[minor crag]

I'm not sure how much we sold them for

[primal siren]

700= half a laptop

[minor crag]

Quite cheap

[opaque sigil]

[amber fractal]

:AINTNEURWAY:

[stark needle]

I see 50-200$ for 1 axolotl online

[minor crag]

I sold them for a tad more than £0.207~

[minor crag]

WHAT???

I could've been rich

[stark needle]

IDK???

[amber fractal]

[stark needle]

Cathy got scammed 😭

[primal siren]

[minor crag]

I only need £290 for a laptop

[maiden geyser]

i think there's a post which goes like that on r/github

[minor crag]

I could've sold like 4 and got a laptop

[amber fractal]

Can we add sam's closed merge requests to that subreddit

[primal siren]

You can have a whole 4000£ pc with those money makers

[maiden geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/1atqusj/newtogithub/

[stark needle]

Money printing organism????

[minor crag]

It'll be like 30c tommorow and they kinda just sex whenever the water heats up

[primal siren]

Bro too dumb to ask chat gpt

[minor crag]

Hopefully I'll become rich

[primal siren]

You sure they aint just water rabbit?

[stone cedar]

Always funny when people mistake github for the windows store

[primal siren]

Gotta go my break over 😭

[stark needle]

Apparently the like ultra common axolotls are still like 50-60$ each

Idk what exact type u got

[minor crag]

So I could by my 290 laptop with like 5 axolotls and I could also get a pizza

[olive sable]

sure

[rigid snow]

were there more than the one i made

[amber fractal]

I just think yours is funny

[rigid snow]

i missed one bracket and its unfunny gpt slop

it's only funny in context

[tender river]

the struct itself doesnt change but where the compiler is allowed to place it does change (now that i think of it i wonder how it works on stack since the stack pointer is probably only guaranteed to be pointer-aligned, if that)

@sage crag do you have any idea how align(16) works on the stack

[amber fractal]

Yeah true

[olive sable]

here is the screeny if you want it

[amber fractal]

I don't use reddit personally

[olive sable]

me neither

[tender river]

reddit is horrible

[olive sable]

Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustrup, and Linus Torvalds all use(d) this style. Are we smarter than them? yes, i absolutly am

[tender river]

i look at r/programminglanguages once in a blue moon but thats it

[amber fractal]

:true:

incorrect buzzer

[olive sable]

ah yes, jaiden animations

[sage crag]

erm

no

[tender river]

hm

ill chek

[olive sable]

[stone cedar]

Should just be added padding before the struct no? the stack pointer doesn't have to point at an object does it?

[fading blaze]

I wrote an interesting python program today

[tender river]

interesting

[sage crag]

hum

[fading blaze]

I just realized I have no idea how to explain what it does

it makes these things

which are

worthless

why did I do that?

[olive sable]

idk

cuz you can

[fading blaze]

I made 155000 of these

[olive sable]

[fading blaze]

@olive sableWhat's your favorite unicode codepoint?

I thought these would be useful as a learning aid or for diagrams

[olive sable]

idk waht those are so uh idk

[fading blaze]

It's supposed to show you how strings work

[olive sable]

interesting

[amber fractal]

I vibe with █

[fading blaze]

IDK It was supposed to be something periodic table inspired

gives you the most important information about the codepoint

[olive sable]

muahahaha, simd force

[amber fractal]

simd my beloved

[opaque sigil]

i wish i could just force simd to appear

[fading blaze]

I made almost 2 gb of it and counting

[amber fractal]

(I haven't ever used it)

[olive sable]

i have no clue how simd works but im pretty sure its just math++

extra fast matrrices and vectors

[nocturne olive]

Same math done on a lot of numbers in parallel

[rough bloom]

more math happening at a time than usual

[amber fractal]

Do an instruction 4x times at once for simple explanation

[fading blaze]

simd is a pain

[nocturne olive]

SIMD means Single Instruction Multiple Data

[stone cedar]

SIMD: Buy one instruction, get three for free!

Do you frequently add two vec4's? Are you tired of using 4 instructions for 4 additions. Then I have the solution for you: SIMD!

[nocturne olive]

That's so silly

[bronze bridge]

Does it only support ASCII or does it support Unicode?

Because this could be really useful for generating "cheat sheets" for certain desirable properties of Unicode characters

[fading blaze]

Yeah it supports unicode

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009852093424750622/1387441911555428433/D0004138.png?ex=685d5b79&is=685c09f9&hm=3b77f8ff662292d363ddb3c70f8f05d2ba8419b8f15aba2780000efad1948928&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1024&height=1024

Well depends on what you mean by "support"

I did fix this bug

[rigid snow]

"common" made me think it's a card collecting game

someone get on it

unicode card collecting game

[fading blaze]

that sounds incredibly boring

[rigid snow]

you're not wrong

[fading blaze]

though I guess technically there's an animated movie about unicode

[rigid snow]

it was really bad though

[fading blaze]

I assume that would be a rare card

[opaque wharf]

Ahh yes, the world ending serpent with dorky face

[fading blaze]

ꙮ

[opaque wharf]

Also, did I miss the original song? I was out for a while

[rigid snow]

no

[opaque wharf]

Yey

[fading blaze]

the original song is at the end of the stream

[stone cedar]

"Cyrillic Letter Multiocular O" or as it is known colloquially "Trypophobia trigger"

[tender river]

i like how when i tell llms to improve my resume they just invent experience or increase the expected salary range

[opaque wharf]

"We use the trusted ancient technique called lying"

[olive sable]

idk how this happened but it seems like the rotation is broken

ignore stream sounds lmao

[opaque wharf]

What rotation?

[olive sable]

the point is to have non-spinning tutel at the centre of rotation

[opaque wharf]

So the spinning tutel should also orbit around the fixed facing tutel? But the camera should also be able to view/tranform freely?

[warped narwhal]

objectively incorrect opinion. BSD style braces are superior!

[olive sable]

no, i mean camera rotation

[opaque wharf]

Oh, the camera should orbit around stationary tutel?

[amber fractal]

I reget cluelessing

I'm clueless

[warped narwhal]

oh by bsd style I mean allman, not bsd knf

as it is also called bsd style

[olive sable]

i like newline brackets basicly

[stone cedar]

Double check matrix order and/or multiplication order?

[opaque wharf]

Do the opposite, make the camera stationary and the whole scene rotate

[amber fractal]

Can I prefer:
void bwaaunc(args: int) { allofthelinesofcode(); }

[opaque wharf]

Yes, that's sausage style

[amber fractal]

Can't wait to use it in prod

[opaque wharf]

Sure, there's also this magical thing that let's you do nothing again after you've pushed it to prod called termination letter

[rigid snow]

my guy is listening to the stream at 8kbps

[olive sable]

nah, its just obs

[opaque wharf]

He sets OBS recording to nuke audio

[rigid snow]

what the hell up the audio bitrate then

[olive sable]

no

the whole point is bad bitrate

[warped narwhal]

APL style

[olive sable]

sausage style is fiune for short functions

i do this for example

if (keystate[SDL_SCANCODE_W] || keystate[SDL_SCANCODE_UP])    move.y += 1.0f;
if (keystate[SDL_SCANCODE_S] || keystate[SDL_SCANCODE_DOWN])  move.y -= 1.0f;
if (keystate[SDL_SCANCODE_A] || keystate[SDL_SCANCODE_LEFT])  move.x -= 1.0f;
if (keystate[SDL_SCANCODE_D] || keystate[SDL_SCANCODE_RIGHT]) move.x += 1.0f;

[opaque wharf]

You haven't encountered "one-liner"?

[olive sable]

sausage style

[warped narwhal]

I'm about to turn my whole program into a single python list comprehension, surely that will be better right?

[amber fractal]

I mostly use it in python for getters and setters when I don't feel like dealing with properties

[opaque wharf]

I forgot who did it, but I knew it was someone here that indeed turn the whole print bwaa*(1-10) to one liner

[amber fractal]

(I never feel like dealing with them)

[amber fractal]

[opaque wharf]

So it was you...

[opaque sigil]

with open("input_1.txt", "r") as f: print("Quest 2:", sum([set(" ".join(w.split(":")[0] if (w.split(":")[0] == "byr" and len(w.split(":")[1]) == 4 and 1920 <= int(w.split(":")[1]) <= 2002) or (w.split(":")[0] == "iyr" and len(w.split(":")[1]) == 4 and 2010 <= int(w.split(":")[1]) <= 2020) or (w.split(":")[0] == "eyr" and len(w.split(":")[1]) == 4 and 2020 <= int(w.split(":")[1]) <= 2030) or (w.split(":")[0] == "hgt" and w.split(":")[1][-2:]) == "cm" and 150 <= int(w.split(":")[1][0:-2]) <= 193 or (w.split(":")[0] == "hgt" and w.split(":")[1][-2:]) == "in" and 59 <= int(w.split(":")[1][0:-2]) <= 76 or (w.split(":")[0] == "hcl" and w.split(":")[1][0] == "#" and len(w.split(":")[1]) == 7 and set(w.split(":")[1][1:]).issubset({hex(x).split('x')[-1] for x in range(16)})) or (w.split(":")[0] == "ecl" and w.split(":")[1] in ["amb", "blu", "brn", "gry", "grn", "hzl", "oth"]) or (w.split(":")[0] == "pid" and len(w.split(":")[1]) == 9 and set(w.split(":")[1]).issubset({str(x) for x in range(10)})) or (w.split(":")[0] == "cid") else "TRAHR" for w in lst).replace("cid", "").replace("  ", " ").strip(" ").split(" ")) == {"byr", "iyr", "eyr", "hgt", "hcl", "ecl", "pid"} for lst in [[inner for outer in [y.split("\n") for y in a] for inner in outer] for a in [y for y in [x.split(" ") for x in "".join(x for x in f.readlines()).split("\n\n")]]]]))

[amber fractal]

SCATTER

[olive sable]

[sour harness]

that looks absolutely cursed

[opaque sigil]

can you tell i was bored one day

[opaque wharf]

S A U S A G E

[amber fractal]

Days like this I'm glad mobile discord has python formatting

[sour harness]

the list comprehension version of "if all you have is a hammer"

[opaque wharf]

S A U S A G E S

[opaque sigil]

i think i had a sane version too but that one's boring

[amber fractal]

I'm still suprised I did object creation within a oneliner

but yeah, like I haven't used the functional method of classes in the past

[opaque sigil]

thanks for this incredibly stable website github

[olive sable]

my page got removed

[amber fractal]

[opaque sigil]

banned

[opaque wharf]

I sometimes wonder how tf did you guys managed to get banned from github et al

[nocturne olive]

Why may that be?

[olive sable]

im not banned, just no page anymore i guess

[opaque sigil]

probs github reclaiming unused compute

[olive sable]

ah im stupid

[opaque wharf]

This is page, odds are slim they reclaim a moderately active repo. Let alone the pages feature

[olive sable]

the link name gets changed when you change the repo name

im getting confused with control settup

when you move your mouse left, should the camera turn towards left or move away from left?

[opaque wharf]

Towards

But again, some people prefer inverted vertical axis for some reasons

Like a lunatic they are

[olive sable]

okay

[amber fractal]

I keep forgetting I set the stream to 160p

[olive sable]

there is no environment yet so my mentsal attachment is fucked up

[opaque wharf]

Also, if you need to hold a click (left mouse button for example), then generally the movement is away from that direction as it is a swipe

[olive sable]

movement and camera rotation works properly

[opaque wharf]

See evil. NOW

[olive sable]

i am

its onmy left monitor

[opaque wharf]

Same

[olive sable]

my rgb is audio responsive so its sick

[opaque wharf]

I just watched it in a dark room lol

[olive sable]

i am the 122'nd like on the youtube video

[opaque wharf]

Dang, that quick huh

[maiden geyser]

so back

[olive sable]

we're so back

[opaque wharf]

Vshow huh. Vedal really serious about them going on stage

[olive sable]

evilfrick

aight i have to go now

[amber fractal]

[wary rover]

It's beautiful

[gritty dust]

cya

well well well, look whos back hehe

[olive sable]

Im playing monopoly with my friend, my brother and his gf

[gritty dust]

[olive sable]

Im losing

[gritty dust]

damn

I cant imagine losing smh

[opaque wharf]

Meaning he's not a very good capitalist

[gritty dust]

he needs to increase his corpa

[opaque wharf]

Can't even gain monopoly smh

[gritty dust]

[gritty dust]

rip sam, still comeback potential

[wary rover]

Ran out of cigs mid-research on how to do stuff. It's gonna be a long night

[rigid snow]

i'm literally the worst in that regard, i'd immediately run to the store

smoking is cringe btw

[wary rover]

0:36 AM and I live in the middle of nowhere. Closest 24/7 is 9km away

[scarlet arch]

Just start next game with generational wealth. Surely that'll show them.

[olive sable]

You start with 2k

Bwaa

[scarlet arch]

That's what I'm saying. They can keep starting with 2k, but you'll start with 2 billion

[warped narwhal]

Sam will find a way to lose that in 3 turns

[wary rover]

Monopo-ly money, I think its kinda funny
You buy your way to heaven, but you die like the rest of us

[gritty dust]

yay

imagine that but like its moving

lol

[wary rover]

Congrats

[gritty dust]

trying to render black hole soon lol

using cool kid physics

[wary rover]

You got this

[gritty dust]

im debating using a Kerr black hole bc like spin makes it look funny but it makes it more realistic

also doppler shift idk

[wary rover]

I hope I will be able to make a window by the end of the summer

Would be my intermediate goal for now

[wary rover]

How are you bending light exactly?

[opaque wharf]

Meanwhile me taking care of 3 people that drinks like vedal and hammered af

[opaque wharf]

If you are using physical simulation, the path of least action in the coordinate system is not really "straight"

Because the space-time itself is bending

[olive sable]

Im actually wining now

[wary rover]

Kinda tempted to go slam a shot or seven of my moonshine rn, but I have a mental limiter called "drinking alone is a no-no"

[gritty dust]

light follows a path called a null geodesic, which is just a fancy way of saying the straightest possible line in curved space right. so around a massive object like a black hole where spacetime is curved, the light bends not because its curving but because its still following a straight path if that makes sense relative to it. SOOO lemme explain the rest in a sec, just takes a min to write lol

[opaque wharf]

NO, WE NEED THE EXPLANATION NOW

[wary rover]

Ok, I do understand how light bending works irl, but I have no idea how it works in engines

[opaque wharf]

I'M EVEN GOING TO PING YOU TO DEMAND IT

[wary rover]

Cause like maybe bending space is not optimal, who knows

Puter magic

[amber fractal]

[opaque wharf]

Is it past 3 turn tho?

[olive sable]

Yes

Its still the same game

[opaque wharf]

Alright, in the next 10 turns Sam is going to lose it all again

[gritty dust]

thats how im computing it, using a ton of fancy math with photon position. so in the code you send a ray of light and track its location and what direction its heading in (velocity vector). so to illustrate my next point on this, imagine you're on a curved surface, you walk in a straight line but because the surface is curved your path curves too, even though you're going straight. so in the code to tell the light how to 'curve' I choose first if the black hole is spining or not because that affects the spacetime around it, then calculate christoffel symbols, solve geodesics (how light moves in curved spacetime) then yeah do that for every pixel and I get the lights 'curve' with rays. because in my code each pixel is a light ray and we calculate all that jazz for each ray of light. (ray tracing lol, annoying to code).

idk if that makes sense lol

basically cry while my 4070 trys to calculate this lol

[amber fractal]

Real time demo when

[gritty dust]

when I get it to work lol

[opaque wharf]

Do it with spin = 1

[gritty dust]

... no

im not doing lightspeed spin lol

[opaque wharf]

But but but... naked singularity!

[gritty dust]

woah

lol

[wary rover]

Holy crap. Ngl, was kinda spacing out reading syntax rules for my simplistic stuff, but just reading what other people like you can do with coding fills me with determination

[amber fractal]

spin = 1 is boring, spin = 2 is where it is at

[gritty dust]

[opaque wharf]

It will loops around to being a black hole

But the lower limit of the spin to see naked singularity is not even 1 IIRC

0.9 something-something

[gritty dust]

it can be 0.9999999999999999999999999999 as long as its not 1 you can have a black hole be any speed below it you know (I think the interstellar one was like 0.999999 to create the large time shifts and tidal forces on millers planet

[opaque wharf]

No, I actually forgot if naked singularity could form below spin 1 or does it have to be at least spin 1

Like, is it 0.999995 for example

[olive sable]

I won

[opaque wharf]

They let you win

[olive sable]

They went bankrupt cuz i owned half the map

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, that's the meta alright

Just like IRL

[olive sable]

monopoly isnt a game, its a real estate simulation

[amber fractal]

Time to lose and lose

[olive sable]

im not "wining" like i won a lot of property, but im not losing either

[olive sable]

i love stickers

[dry charm]

holy LOW fps

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1387530490025607178/evilfrick.gif

[olive sable]

i find it funny how tutels pfp is in the bottom corner eventhough the neurosama channel has neuro as pfp

[olive sable]

stickers are amx 512kb

its painful

[dry charm]

[olive sable]

do you have any idea how much compression i had to do?

[dry charm]

I love when there are 50 different media implementations

[amber fractal]

it gets increased with boosts

to 10mb

[olive sable]

my server is boostless

[dry charm]

sticker size?

[lapis wraith]

Discord, give us nitro boost to upload 4K stickers

[amber fractal]

Yeah like this one is nearing the 10mb limit

At least if I'm recalling facts correctly

[rigid snow]

you've clearly never heard of telegram then lmaooo

video stickers:

• max 3s
• max 30fps
• max 256kb
• has to be vp9 webm

[olive sable]

i have, they use that for unsavory content here

which is why i dont use it

[dry charm]

i love 2009 gifs

[lapis wraith]

256KB? not even a MB?

[olive sable]

discord is also only 512kb

without boosts

[lapis wraith]

Well... at least is better

[sick owl]

https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli

[rigid snow]

oh i forgot 512x512 REQUIRED, NOT MAX

[sick owl]

60 requests per minute and a thousand requests per day of Gemini 2.5 pro with full context free for devs

Thought you guys'd want to know about this

[olive sable]

noway

[sick owl]

Also plugs into MCP servers

[rigid snow]

mco

[sick owl]

Mcurmum

[olive sable]

where do i sign up?

[sick owl]

Just yoink the repo with npm then it has you authenticate with your google account

Then you're set

[olive sable]

does this run locally?

[sage crag]

brrrr

[rigid snow]

it's probably to encourage to use their bespoke lottie-based format for actual animation

the "classic" emote is that

[sick owl]

The agent framework yes, the model no

You can opt out of data retention for training though

[rigid snow]

great we now have claude code, codex, gemini cli, what next

meta ai programming

[olive sable]

does it matter where i install?

[sick owl]

That's just codex and claude code with a llama.cpp endpoint

[amber fractal]

Only on onedive

[olive sable]

well yes that my problem

[rigid snow]

claude code is the only closed source one

[sick owl]

Nope, long as you got node.js

[olive sable]

i moved the programming folder from my 1TB school onedrive to my 5GB personal one, cuz i graduated.
so i cant keep installing things into the project folder

[rigid snow]

really shows how good of a company anthropic is

[sick owl]

Honestly Gemini CLI is the obvious choice as long as it has the free usage with 1 mil context

Followed by Codex

Claude Code is just a grift

It gets good results but at considerable cost

[rigid snow]

i mean claude the model is best at what all of this is trying to do

there is demand and they're making stacks off that

[sick owl]

True, but Gemini is more flexible and has vastly superior context

On top of being free

[rigid snow]

as long as there is demand anthropic won't change

tbh in my experience claude is like 10x better than anything else at tool usage

[sick owl]

Honestly of all the models o3 has been the best there for me

Opus in second, Gemini 2.5 Pro in a close third

Opus and Gemini clear o3 overall though

[rigid snow]

i specifically never used CoT models for any of this because they're fuckin slooooow

[amber fractal]

Free build script storage

[olive sable]

im already at like 3.7gb

[sick owl]

CoT is objectively smarter though

[sage crag]

cot is a place to put a child when sleeping, or alternatively an archaic name for bed or place of rest

[rigid snow]

i'd rather the output be shit than wait 30s for them to spit out "cargo run"

[sage crag]

solution: run two models at once

as an ai language model, write your own build script

[amber fractal]

Honestly based

I only use AI for guiding my google searches

I use a 0.5B local model for that

[gritty dust]

Got my blender one to be cool af but my code one looks ass rn so all you guys only get the blender artist rendition of one instead of a realistic one (im coding the python black hole rn okay its 1k lines and pain)

this is the one im coding to be realistic, looks ass rn lol

[sage crag]

h

[olive sable]

h

[amber fractal]

Finally, omega

[gritty dust]

wdym h lol

[olive sable]

i just responfded to konii

[rigid snow]

i use cloud storage - icloud drive at like $0.75/mo for me for 50gb - to store my psds and demos (a shitload of .wavs), photos are a nice bonus AND it makes total sense economically

no code ever touches that folder

that's sacrilege

[gritty dust]

I use cloud storage at 1tb bc my dads work gives me it for free

[olive sable]

i dont meet the age requirement...
time to become a month older

[rigid snow]

do they require id

[amber fractal]

I just don't do much storing despite... certian 5gb per project psb files

[sick owl]

Fraudulent information

[rigid snow]

i never said anything of that sort, any and all implications are made by you

[gritty dust]

whats the age requirement for it?

[olive sable]

18

[gritty dust]

damn...

gotta wait 2 and a half years

[rigid snow]

vibecoding is dangerous you know

as dangerous as alcohol and tobacco products

[amber fractal]

Give you overconfidence issues, which is defently just as bad as those

[opaque sigil]

All these addicted kids

[wet basin]

hi programmers

[gritty dust]

[wet basin]

InaNod~1

my dears

neurosHug~1

[opaque sigil]

Sup

[amber fractal]

Hi Hoshi

[wet basin]

literally the shittiest thing in the entire millenium

[wet basin]

hii

[wet basin]

ceiling

InaNod~1

Ok yall I wanna bring up a topic if its fine

its about the evils moves on the clip of her og song

[gritty dust]

I dont think kids in my class do it if they cant code a 4 axis robotic arm for their life they tried for like over a month

[rigid snow]

take too cold for this channel

try again

[olive sable]

i cant verify sadge

[wet basin]

I absolutely disagree with anything vibecoding

[olive sable]

my creditcard isnt accepted

[wet basin]

what do you guys think on how they're done?

[gritty dust]

mods execute all vibe coders 🔪 hehe

[amber fractal]

Come on hotspot, you can download the video

[olive sable]

im not plannign on using it for vibe codign, more for jsut asking questiuons

[opaque wharf]

So, what did I miss?

[wet basin]

nothing

[sage crag]

rip vedal

[opaque wharf]

I just had a fierce "discussion" about stop killing games at the other server

[rigid snow]

vibecoding gives me the total and complete opposite of overconfidence

[amber fractal]

You can be trusted with vibes then

[rigid snow]

i have no idea how anything works until i look and when i look i wanna

[sage crag]

if i were vibecoding i would have 100% confidence that the code does not work

[gritty dust]

same kekw

[rigid snow]

mocap?

[wet basin]

could u open that

InaNod~1

[rigid snow]

like, motion capture

[wet basin]

ok got that part but

like is there a real human model doing it then that getting recorded

or is it more of a animated on a program kinda thing

[rigid snow]

a person in a suit covered with infrared reflectors in a room full of infrared lights and special high fps cameras

[sage crag]

ora

[wet basin]

yeah

ok as I thought then