he's too young
#programming
fast pagoda
tight tinsel
stark needle
bwaa
ruby timber
bwaa
inner pike
That stream was pretty funny
Them just not being able to do the sponsor because asmongold filled the servers
amber fractal
Looks like corepunk to me
rare bramble
Looks like corepunk to me
amber fractal
I tried light mode, didn't really like it too much
Still keep a light mode keyboard though
ruby timber
To be fair I only use light mode because my wallpapers are light recently
As soon as I start using darker wallpapers I'm switching again
safe path
chat
i am about to upgrade a stable debian to the testing debian without any backups
is this confidence or complacency 
ruby timber
desert wave
if it works it was confidence, it if breaks it was complacency
tender river
if it works it was complacency, if it breaks it was confidence
opaque wharf
It was, in fact, confidence
olive sable
safe path
wtf i have somehow removed my kernel
opaque wharf
Did you perchance encounter the legendary "Yes, do as I say"?
safe path
Did you perchance encounter the legendary "Yes, do as I say"?
nah i was performing a dist-upgrade without reading the manual
opaque wharf
first day of trying vulkan and i already lost it
Sam will now invite you to OpenGL
opaque wharf
nah i was performing a dist-upgrade without reading the manual <:glueless:128233...
True confidence right there lol
uneven pulsar
Sam will now invite you to OpenGL
whats the point of using itr while have a built in engine like unity or godot
man i havent been coding since the last 2 days
uneven pulsar
i been just spending time watching jjk😭
stark needle
Vanor dumb question but how is your name a gradient
dry charm
i am about to upgrade a stable debian to the testing debian without any backups
This is pure bravery
stark needle
Ive seen this in a bunch of servers I couldn't find anything tho
dry charm
Vanor dumb question but how is your name a gradient
You can set it in the roles after you have lvl3 boosts
safe path
just 3 boosts actually! boosts are like a currency now
dry charm
dry charm
just 3 boosts actually! boosts are like a currency now
wait what
stark needle
what
dry charm
what in the actual fuck
safe path
, so you can spend 3 boosts either for role color or server tag, which will remove those number of boosts from the server boost level
stark needle
So if you boost 3 servers u get this role thing?
dry charm
safe path
right now you can spend up to 6 boosts
tender river
So if you boost 3 servers u get this role thing?
no your server has to be boosted
stark needle
Oh i see this makes sense
tight tinsel
nitro economics
tender river
discord just wanted to give incentives for more boosts
tight tinsel
damn it I can’t set the nuro tag on mobile
safe path
i have a phd in discord boost economics
dry charm
I would assume they move every Nitro related bonuses to this claim system
it would make sense, like if a server doesn't use the additional emote slots
stark needle
i have a phd in discord boost economics <a:mhm:1301460327614906379>
I find it extremely annoying that the gradient is not centered
dry charm
it is moving
safe path
hehe 
stark needle
it is moving
mobile
uneven pulsar
py```
hello="hello"
world="world"
print(hello,world)
it is animated like a 7tv
uneven pulsar
criminal
uneven pulsar
Mobile client sucks
java hater?
dry charm
discord mobile is exactly the sideproject you do that does not get any development love, but have to update cause your uncle for whatever reason still uses it and annoys you at every family gathering that it is broken
dry charm
java hater?<:glueless:1282337396230328425>
its not even java?
stark needle
Remember when discord added a "DMs" tab on mobile?
Where it was so friggin confusing and everyone hated it
uneven pulsar
*its not even java?*
it uses react
and cotlin ig?
now ios discord uses swift
instead of android
dry charm
lemme decomp the current discord 1 sec
uneven pulsar
lemme decomp the current discord 1 sec
i am pretty sure they uses react
as the back end for android uses c++ or python and smt
dry charm
It uses react native
uneven pulsar
dose discord ios uses swift?
uneven pulsar
It uses react native
yea ofc
uneven pulsar
imagine angular
uneven pulsar
Android backend?
ya they use a different language
dry charm
The is the android app, ios app and the discord API
there is no separate android backend
it's the same API that the desktop uses
uneven pulsar
it's the same API that the desktop uses
oh
dry charm
(with different endpoints most probably)
faint sandal
Earlier Android Discord client was written with Kotlin up until v126
Then they went full react native
uneven pulsar
Android apps are written in kotlin yes
so seprate back end
dry charm
there is no separate back end
uneven pulsar
Then they went full react native
?? then what
faint sandal
then what
dry charm
holy shit the discord app is fully obfuscated
uneven pulsar
there is no separate back end
oh then but swift is a different back end than kotlin
dry charm
even the dependencies
dry charm
oh then but swift is a different back end than kotlin
That is not backend
That is the language of the app
Backend is the server
uneven pulsar
or did they changed the frame work?
uneven pulsar
That is not backend
oh ok
dry charm
Yes, they used Kotlin multiplatform for both iOS and Android
uneven pulsar
Yes, they used Kotlin multiplatform for both iOS and Android
yes
uneven pulsar
(or pure Swift?)
swift dose have styling features?
dry charm
Yeah they are using React on Android
uneven pulsar
I've decompiled the JNI back to java
tbh i am new to it
so kotlin is the engine and the scripting language is java
dry charm
No worries, decompiling is a very advanced in terms of complexity 😄
dry charm
so kotlin is the engine and the scripting language is java
No, Kotlin is a full programing language like Java
Both compile to JVM
Kotlin can also compile to other targets as well
Also Neither is scripting language, as both are compiled
obfuscated code my bevloed
ok back to work
dry charm
wtf there are ipv6 cameras now?
safe path
it's some intel thingy that connects the webcams directly to the cpu
used for mobile
stupid and annoying i want to tear it apart
dry charm
holy shit what the fuck
safe path
there are only 3 models that are officially supported by the linux kernel atm
dry charm
lmao time to write one: https://github.com/hao-yao/ipu6-sensor-guide
holy shit what a jank
opaque wharf
it's some intel thingy that connects the webcams directly to the cpu
So, Intel if they decided their IME will do so much more, now have camera connected
safe path
bro like idgi who even demands this tech
its a stinky webcam, its used like 2 times every day you don't need to """accelerate""" video processing on it
connect it to usb like how we've always done it please 
fast pagoda
people who are mentally awwright
trim valve
vanor why are you more purple
actually what the fuck your name is literally glowing in the tablist
wary rover
He ate too much enriched uranium
fast pagoda
the names in that rank are glowing
all of them
well
gradient
do they sell name colours
rough bloom
actually what the fuck your name is literally glowing in the tablist
new gradient roles (3 boosts were sacrificed for it) 
dry charm
<:glueless:1282337396230328425> how easy will this be to ublock
Very
wait lmao, there are 3 values, but it uses the first two
dry charm
Ah, for the other color thing it is used
fast pagoda
temmie = $0 confirmed
dry charm
temmie = $0 confirmed
(that is just your currently selected element in DOM )
fast pagoda
yes but if interpreted incorrectly on purpose it means he = $0
trim valve
oops
dry charm
<:neurOMEGALUL:1097297318119743638> oops
tender river
arg mode
trim valve
ok well if anyone wants them:
! remove gradient roles
discord.com##span[class*="twoColorGradient_"]:style(background: var(--custom-gradient-color-1) !important; background-clip: text !important;)
discord.com##span[class*="nameGlow__"]
at the very least this is close enough to right
tender river
bred can i bother you if i run into image conversion colorspace isseus
trim valve
sure
tender river
trim valve
(I may not be 100% helpful but I can give pointers)
tender river
(I may not be 100% helpful but I can give pointers)
i currently have a jpg -> imagemagick -> denoising -> krita -> gimp -> imagemagick pipeline
as you may understand it is not very accurate 
i hope that enough time has passed that they just fixed some of the issues
but that's probably not the case
trim valve
not accurate in what way
tender river
colors very visibly break
trim valve
tender river
well, or used to, again idk how it is with the new versions
trim valve
you can do that with ublock?
fast pagoda
i applied css with stylus
trim valve
ah
fast pagoda
trim valve
all my discord un-fucking is done with ublock
fast pagoda
i have never used discord in browser but tried it for that but you beat me to the filter one lol
trim valve
well, or used to, again idk how it is with the new versions
if you do run into issues feel free to show me what's happening & kinda more detail for what the pipeline is doing
tender river
i have never used discord in browser but tried it for that but you beat me to th...
last time i used the discord app was when vedal was streaming live reaction to gpt 4o, the browser app doesnt support that
trim valve
I keep getting tempted to try the desktop app for better streaming
iirc it can do av1 or something
fast pagoda
last time i used the discord app was when vedal was streaming live reaction to g...
i think it is av1 yeah
oops
wrong reply
but yeah i never watch discord streams i just dont like having anything in browser if i can avoid it
i crash my browser too much
lol
or frantically sacrifice all open browser windows when running out of mem mostly
fast pagoda
<:neuroFumoFriend:1130922988762583090>
browser is suggesting translating your message saying it's russian
i should use browsercord more
tender river
it is actually true i wrote that message in russian (mods please dont ban)
safe path
fast pagoda
wait do emotes have like a cyrillic name i guess that makes sense
ruby timber
fast pagoda
D:
tender river
wait do emotes have like a cyrillic name i guess that makes sense
???
fast pagoda
dont listen to me i should've been asleep 8 hours ago
i was going somewhere with that showerthought but i have no idea where
ruby timber
Go to bed right this instant 
fast pagoda
i cannot for i am about to go to work LUL
ruby timber
fast pagoda
Im only there for a bit and i accidentally slept like 15 hours straight yesterday evening so i was not tired
im rolling vedal mode sleep optimization
rigid snow
erm
fast pagoda
stark needle
:evilBwaa:
olive sable
man FUCK VULKAN
Your first mistake was trying to use vulkan
This image gets more cooked each time
nocturne olive
Vulkan is cool if all you care about is performance at the cost of ease of use
rough bloom
performance above all else
ease of use is just a skill issue
olive sable
Vanor dumb question but how is your name a gradient
Is it?
fast pagoda
Mantle died for vulkan
olive sable
man i quit using it
Ah it is, im just blind
uneven pulsar
Mantle died for vulkan
well i should've never touched it
olive sable
Go back to opengl lmao
ruby timber
Ah it is, im just blind
i can't see it on mobile :(
uneven pulsar
btw i fixed the sprite trail problem
nocturne olive
Vulkan is cool if all you care about is performance at the cost of ease of use
(for example when emulating 3DS Vulkan is the differentiator between unplayable latency at base res and 100% playable at 4K)
olive sable
(for example when emulating 3DS Vulkan is the differentiator between unplayable ...
It completely depends on implementation
But ye, a hyperoptemised vulkan will do 2x or more the performance of opengl
uneven pulsar
But ye, a hyperoptemised vulkan will do 2x or more the performance of opengl
dont forget gaytracing and and full lower level control
maiden geyser
raytracing is good for hogging 300w just for gpu
trim valve
real and true
olive sable
I wonder if you could do sound rt on gpu
I mean that i know its possible in general, but like for real time in games
trim valve
you could probably accelerate it a little but I don't think you do a lot of rays for sound rt either
olive sable
Its cheaper than video rt, but you have to send the data back to the cpu
Rt cores do everything collisio´ related but they're not useful for object collision because of that gpu-cpu barrier, so idk
Maybe the bvh trees stuff is usefull?
uneven pulsar
i am gonna make a game called calculator
its going to be epic
richard calculator game
olive sable
If input == ["5", "x", "6"]: print("30")
If input == ["5", "x", "7"]: print("35")
If input == ["5", "x", "8"]: print("40")
....
uneven pulsar
If input == ["5", "x", "6"]: print("30")
If input == ["5", "x", "7"]: print("35"...
no i am gonna recreate the richard meme
as my first game
like when you calculate your screen excplodes whit high pitch sounds
olive sable
maiden geyser
new nvidia driver 
olive sable
Is it good?
rigid snow
I wonder if you could do sound rt on gpu
i can think of a few issues
- if we’re streaming input audio (like proximity voice chat) the amount of data to constantly move onto the gpu gets out of hand quickly
- there isn’t such a thing as fps in audio: if the performance isn’t enough, you get clicks and stutters
- i might not understand audio rt correctly but wouldn’t you need to process each sample out of 44.1k (for standard CD quality) in order? usually dsp works by chunking them into buffers of N samples, but the buffer size is directly proportional to latency - too big is bad
olive sable
I was more thinking you just calculate the percentage that the volume needs to be every physics tick
One for left ear and one for right ear
Then you let cpu side handle the actual audio
Or maybe 5 or 7 locations for surround sound
safe path
fuck i think my ipu6 cam isn't supported
gonna have to reinstall windows to see wtf the model number on that thing is
olive sable
safe path
ipu6 genuinely doesn't deserve to exist
maiden geyser
Is it good?
idk, not like it changes things
dry charm
gonna have to reinstall windows to see wtf the model number on that thing is
Cant you QEMU a bootcd VM and pass it through?
Get a hiro's bootcd
Whats win10
safe path
im getting live11 to see if it'll just work
the webcam itself isn't a pci or usb device
the pci device associated to the webcam is the intel multimedia controller
i have no idea if it'll work via qemu but at this point i just wanna see the model number
safe path
What happens if that is passed thrlugh
, but it wouldn't be any faster than me just booting live11
i have also tried ubuntu 24's livecd just to see if that kernel can pick it up, but apparently not
there's also a ppa, but that'll require me to actually install ubuntu
all i know so far is that ipu6 is only avail by default from >=6.10, and im on 6.12
ubuntu 24 i think is also >=6.10 but i didnt bother checking once i saw it didn't detect my cam
my kernel's already doing pretty good by actually listing the video devices, but it falls short when i do cam --list or try to access it via a browser, or cheese
can't get an output from it via v4l2 either
might just be cooked
i am this close to saying frick this and get a usb webcam, but that is admitting defeat and i don't like that
if i meow at it really loudly will it fix itself
scarlet arch
new discord colour roles
dry charm
my kernel's already doing pretty good by actually listing the video devices, but...
Possible that the Kernel does not recognise it as a possible video output?
I assume nor OBS wants to use that
since it uses ffmpeg
safe path
this is definitely and a 100% an ipu6 issue
im trying to set it up for web conferencing actually, have not even thought about obs 
warped narwhal
Why are JavaScript frameworks such a mess?
I'm making a blog site for a portfolio and there is like 38827481 different options that all do basically the same thing but slightly differently
dry charm
I mean that is literally programming
olive sable
Cuz javascript sucks
dry charm
But frameworks are different breed sure
rough bloom
they all think they have the best solution
where is the competing standards xkcd when you need it
warped narwhal
Oh but you can't use this framework for this specific task because fuck you the Devs decided you don't need to be able to do that
dry charm
Oh but you can't use this framework for this specific task because fuck you the ...
What kind of thing you cannot do in a framework? I have yet to see one that cannot be implemened in one tbh
rough bloom
at least they kinda standardized on React now
everything else is usually legacy and just has to be maintained
dry charm
though im only proefficient in Angular 
rough bloom
I'm proficient in none 
warped narwhal
I chose svelte by rolling a dice
And webstorm & amplify seems to support it so that's good enough for me
noble zodiac
one of these days people will realize that 95% of the web doesn't need javascript at all
dry charm
The problem that it does
cause people want reloadless, instant feedback apps that updates on demand
and it made by yesterday
noble zodiac
for what cooking recipes? blog posts? cat pictures? nonsense
dry charm
A full inventory management and sales
noble zodiac
thats not the majority of the web
rough bloom
it used to be less, but web apps requiring similar interactivity are common now 
reloading the whole page on every interaction is just not the way to go for web apps
dry charm
I do not think the problem is that everything is javascript
the problem IS javascript
if it were python, much less people would complain
or equally complain but against python
tender river
jesus christ i do NOT want to write ui in python
dry charm
I brought up python cause ppl keep bringin it up for replacement
uneven pulsar
wokrinh with java env is hard
rough bloom
I brought up python cause ppl keep bringin it up for replacement
who 
dry charm
I love how kotlin (+ multiplatform) does it
tender river
the reason theres so many frameworks in js is 1. the culture encourages using dependencies for everything (rust has a similar problem in that regard, though it's less pronounced), and 2. because ui is actually really fucking hard
tender river
ui is not a solved problem
and there should be frameworks exploring different approaches to it
olive sable
jesus christ i do NOT want to write ui in python
rough bloom
everyone should go back to using asm.js
good times 
olive sable
ill keep with wasm, close enough
fresh dove
normal laptop moment
rigid snow
ui is *not* a solved problem
no actually ui is solved and everyone should use react everywhere 
every binary will statically link a js runtime and you WILL like it trust me
on everyone’s soul we need this fr 
dry charm
this laptop's bios does not support mbr booting
wait WHAT
surely hiro's windows PE will work
mossy fossil
god i hate manufacturers that force certain choices down my throat
you vill use GPT, and YOU VILL LIKE IT!
cool. i'll take my money elsewhere in the future if you're gonna behave like that.
olive sable
i am home
mossy fossil
that's how i felt with the switch 2:
"YOU VILL USE IT HOW WE WANT YOU TO, OR IT'LL BECOME A 450 EURO BRICK!"
fuck you too, nintendo. You used to be cool.
midnight sigil
modify switch 2 and use it to play osu 👍
safe path
wtf not even hiro's PE windows can pick it up
midnight sigil
surely nintendo won't sue you
dry charm
wtf not even bootcd worked?!
safe path
warped narwhal
this laptop's bios does not support mbr booting
not even csm mode?
safe path
also installed manufacturer's drivers on the PE install, but i think there's a bunch of shenanigans going on here
can't be bothered to dig deeper
worst case scenario ill reinstall windows just to get that bloody stupid model number
midnight sigil
i am going to explode
it's time to flush the bios chip
safe path
not even csm mode?
that doesn't exist in my bios settings
it's a bespoke bios for this particular laptop
it was built only to house windows 11 and nothing else
midnight sigil
safe path
for all that is holy
i am not on a vpn
im trying to download the windows 11 iso
i am having fun
noble zodiac
(and no, that is not piracy)
piracy alert ! piracy alert ! 🔔
maiden geyser
absolute peak
worldly plank
if(buying != owning) {
piracy = !theft;
}
dry charm
You can download the ISO freely, you just have but a license
thus sharing the ISO via P2P is not piracy c:
maiden geyser
if(buying != owning) {
piracy = !theft;
}
hot take: throwing bricks at the homeless might be bad
olive sable
"might"
i do like having stuff on physical media for my old consoles, but if they dont offer them anymore i will find a dffrent route
howq long does copyright on ps1 games last anyways?
mossy fossil
the worst part is that there were some stupid ISPs who thought that ISOs of linux images were "Piracy"
just because they're available as torrents
noble zodiac
howq long does copyright on ps1 games last anyways?
give or take 95 years
olive sable
PlayStation 1 (PS1) game copyrights in the United States will expire 70 years after the death of the last surviving creator, or 95 years after publication if the copyright is held by a company.
so 1990 + 95 = 2085
mossy fossil
god i hate that copyright law
mossy fossil
if you're going to do protection for the artists, why the fuck is it "Life + 70 Years"
treat it as a patent instead: maximum of 21 years
(which is more than a reasonable amount of time to profit out of a product)
olive sable
i do understand it in a way, but its just too long
copyright has gone too far
the whole point was so other people couldnt steal it while you were selling it, there's no point in holding copyright if the game is 35 years old now
mossy fossil
imagine if patents worked like that:
"I Invented Toilet Paper, So every time you have to wipe your ass, you have to pay me until i die. and even after i'm dead, my sons can still demand royalties for 70 years."
maiden geyser
`PlayStation 1 (PS1) game copyrights in the United States will expire 70 years a...
70 years after the death of the last surviving creator
ps1 is 30 years old
youngest dev may be only 50yo by now
maiden geyser
it clearly says, 95 if is held by a company
mossy fossil
most games are held by the companies, not the individual developers
olive sable
is it not like ea or whatever holding the copyright?
a decent amount, mainly first party, are also just held by Sony Interactive Entertainment
noble zodiac
I don't have a problem with the duration of copyrights but rather the inability for individuals to enforce them
tender river
You can download the ISO freely, you just have but a license
just because its free to download doesnt mean you are allowed to copy it
wary rover
guys, if I want to use two different dependencies at the same time, like I/O and randomizer for example (I am still not sure if std::io is a dependency or function or method tbh) can I just say
use std::io;
use rand::Rng;?
Tried to google but a bit of a specifc question, so I didn't really find anything that explains that clearly, everybody seem to brush over that question
rough bloom
you can just put multiple use statements like that
rand is an external crate (what you'd normally call a dependency) so it would have to be in Cargo.toml too
wary rover
Huh, thats pretty convenient
rough bloom
std::io is a module that's part of the standard library
wary rover
So crates are essentially "words of power" that actually do stuff, and those that compiler knows from the get go are modules and those that it must "learn" are dependencies
A lot of very simillar words that have very specific meanings, head hurts
rough bloom
dunno what you mean by "words of power", but no, they're all modules 
wary rover
I mean if you type "sausage" it won't do anything, so it's not a word of power. If you type "let" you can actually do something with it, so it's a word of power
rough bloom
oh, you mean keywords 
rough bloom
dunno what you mean by "words of power", but no, they're all modules <:neuroMahi...
it's a bit complicated, but for now you don't have to worry about it
just know that if you want to use a crate from crates.io like rand, then it has to be declared in the Cargo.toml and can then be referenced with use statements
nice embed 
wary rover
oh, you mean keywords <:kek:587871503169749003>
I am uneducated, but very dedicated
rough bloom
dedication is good 
wary rover
I'm writing a program that thinks of a number between 1 and 10 and you have to guess it. It then tells you if you guessed correctly 😄
Just your regular very complicated coding stuff, yk
sour harness
You have to start from somewhere, so that's as good as any
stone cedar
I am uneducated, but very dedicated
I'm in favour of renaming 'keywords' to 'words of power'.
lapis wraith
it's a bit complicated, but for now you don't have to worry about it
just know t...
for a second i thought it was a .io game
wary rover
You have to start from somewhere, so that's as good as any
I already have a program in my resume that insults you if your name is not the same as mine, very proud of that one
9 lines of perfection
safe path
report: vm passthru does not work
gonna dip my toes into the dark side by reinstalling windows
tender river
report: vm passthru does not work
have you blacklisted all the necessary drivers?
tender river
also are you using pcie passthorugh? idk how ipu6 works
safe path
pcie passthrough
tender river
there are no drivers that can drive it
yeah but depending on how stuff works it may still be like "i want this device... oh i cant do anything with it, well who cares"
safe path
yeah you're right, but at this moment there's nothing using that pice device
tender river
rip
safe path
i also passthroughed whatever that seemed relevant afterwards and it still doesn't pick it up
tender river
sometimes passing through a single device may not be enough but it's a camera i'd assume that should work
safe path
yeah
inb4 it REQUIRES all intel-related devices to go thorugh to work
cuz again it's directly connected to intel's multimedia device whatever the hell that is
so i wouldn't be shocked
should have bought a thinkpad
tender river
should have bought a thinkpad
i assume you already tried https://github.com/intel/ipu6-drivers ?
safe path
i just went upwards to debian 13, which has those built in
also installed a ppa that claims to have support for slightly more devices
tender river
its out of tree tho
tender river
its out of tree tho
afaict it relies on proprietary userspace components
and the open source drivers are a different thing altogether not made by intel
safe path
ya thats provided by the ppa
i think the biggest tell is in dmesg, the device doesn't get recognised at all
normally for intel-ipu6 devices, we'll get a camera registered log
but we don't
tender river
well, if both open-source and proprietary drivers dont work theres not much you an do yeah
safe path
im so mad because im sure multimedia device controller itself is recognised, i have logs for those
like the ipu6 module does authenticate to it
but it falls short of actually recognising a camera is connected to it
tender river
that reminds me that my laptop camera just randomly broke recently
i have an external camera and i only used the laptop camera for qr code scanning anyway
but still a bit annoying
dont even know if its a kernel update or a hardware issue
since i use it so rarely
safe path
omg u cannot make this up
the windows installer can't find the driver for my storage device
so it refuses to install 💀
olive sable
how does that even happen?
lapis wraith
time to go back to linux
wary rover
Windows decided to stop seeing one of my drives too recently. It is visible in bios, but windows can't see it
safe path
i am going to crash out
noble zodiac
have you considered that your hardware is cursed
olive sable
is it just me or is \n a diffrent colour than the rest of the strings?
opaque wharf
is it just me or is \n a diffrent colour than the rest of the strings?
Thats normal
wary rover
it is yellow
olive sable
that is yellow?
wary rover
"" and rest of the line is orange
lapis wraith
Maybe you can use one of those boot repair disks? 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
wary rover
And /n is yellow
opaque wharf
Sam...
rough rain
can you download vs code in android?
olive sable
no
wary rover
Who's gonna tell em
olive sable
wdym? that im colourblind? i know
rough rain
aw man
lapis wraith
There're alternative editors... but not vs code 
opaque wharf
wdym? that im colourblind? i know
Oh, good to know then
wary rover
There is a decent pascal compiler for android
maiden geyser
i am going to crash out
i think you went the wrong installation route
opaque wharf
The android discussion is getting more and more cursed
olive sable
vscode jsut wont work on android
rough rain
Soo what app should I use then?
safe path
i think you went the wrong installation route
this is the first screen i am presented with
lapis wraith
wym
Well... that there're some "attempts" at code editors in android. I also didn't find a good one...
rough rain
I'm still new lmao
rough rain
Well... that there're some "attempts" at code editors in android. I also didn't ...
you never fine a good app?
olive sable
if you really want to code on a phone, which is not reccomended, then i think there are language specific apps? like pydroid?
wary rover
I mean, maybe you can emulate it? But its not worth it and the compatibilitiy issues... I don't want to think about them
olive sable
100% just use a laptop
rough rain
I don't have laptop
lapis wraith
you never fine a good app?
Nope. And i would also like to know one because editing code in my quest 3 would be kinda cool
olive sable
ah
rough rain
if you really want to code on a phone, which is not reccomended, then i think th...
idk how to use pydroid ngl
olive sable
no laptop huh
rough rain
yup I'm broke
opaque wharf
Go to internet cafe or local library
olive sable
idk how to use pydroid ngl
i tried it once but no numpy support so not usable to me
also, phones are too slow for my liking
rough rain
Nope. And i would also like to know one because editing code in my quest 3 would...
I'm going to ask chatgpt fr
wary rover
yup I'm broke
Feeling you, mate. Got my hands on my first laptop when I was 18. It's never too late, you'll get there
rough rain
the best coding python is replit it said
rough rain
Feeling you, mate. Got my hands on my first laptop when I was 18. It's never too...
lmao
I'm going to keep asking my brother to borrow his pc
olive sable
there are some specific apps. but tbh programming is kinda a pc area. all the proffesional and hobby grade people use a pc so not many programs get made for phone users.
opaque wharf
Yeah, that will work much better
rough rain
there are some specific apps. but tbh programming is kinda a pc area. all the pr...
thanks for the information I'ma just ask my brother tomorrow
opaque wharf
there are some specific apps. but tbh programming is kinda a pc area. all the pr...
It's not that it's not made for phone, the screensize is just ass to work with
olive sable
and the arm vs x86
opaque wharf
You can root your device and install arm version of anything
trim valve
vscode.dev
rough rain
I'ma sleep since is 1:27am 🙏
rough rain
>vscode.dev
what
ebon basin
there are some specific apps. but tbh programming is kinda a pc area. all the pr...
3 mio apps on android ?
opaque wharf
I'ma sleep since is 1:27am 🙏
Australian moment
trim valve
vscode in basically any modern web browser
rough rain
Australian moment
"Filipino" lmao
trim valve
you can vscode on android but I highly don't reccomend it
olive sable
3 mio apps on android ?
idk what that is
wary rover
My friend tinkered with his phone's firmware so much, that when he was buying a data plan he had to convince the provider that his phone is indeed a phone and not a router
opaque wharf
"Filipino" lmao
Oh, yeah that too
rough rain
lmao
olive sable
>vscode.dev
is this server based or does this run locally?
opaque wharf
I forgot which UTC+8 country
opaque wharf
is this server based or does this run locally?
Server and can be self hosted I think
Like how on github.com, you can press . to go to editor
olive sable
should atleast not be bottlnecked by phone then
ebon basin
I'm a bit burned even when I mostly just vibe coded but at least I found TTS system which kinda works on windows and pyhton 3.13
wary rover
Oh, btw, I wrote my second program. Look at this beauty :D
ebon basin
looks like maybe rust at least functional programming
opaque wharf
Oh, btw, I wrote my second program. Look at this beauty :D
Is that... Rust?
wary rover
I still don't understand what unwrap does, but it fixed all errors so I am not complaining
wary rover
Is that... Rust?
ye
trim valve
is this server based or does this run locally?
you can't use some extensions on vscode.dev
but
trim valve
there is also a hosted/selfhosted version that can
but that just pushes the compute to another device
maiden geyser
Oh, btw, I wrote my second program. Look at this beauty :D
code style so bad it doesn't appear in memes
tender river
i could keep naming things
i'll be honest no keyboard and small screen is literally the singular valid reason
there are no other ones
olive sable
I would say the other reasons are valid too
tender river
Oh, btw, I wrote my second program. Look at this beauty :D
please use autoformatting tools
ebon basin
He aimed for the least amount of tabs and spaces .. compact
wary rover
code style so bad it doesn't appear in memes
It has character. RUSTic charm if you will
rough bloom
you can't use some extensions on vscode.dev
GitHub Codespaces (at github.dev) apparently supports extensions (probably because it's an actual VM)
there's a free tier quota though
wary rover
And WILL crucify you
I don't care. It works and I am proud of it :D
tender river
I would say the other reasons are valid too
i can run vscode just fine on my phone (if we forget that its battery is on the brink of explosion and i'm waiting for a new one)
though, i dont run it
olive sable
My phone might just be slow but its unusable to me
tender river
since i use vim
rough bloom
And WILL crucify you
nah it's fine, they're just getting started
the crucifixions are for people writing larger projects with bad practices
tender river
My phone might just be slow but its unusable to me
android uses lots of resources
olive sable
Fair
lapis wraith
You cannot see crap on it
tender river
looks like maybe rust at least functional programming
also how does that look like fp lol
wary rover
What is fp
tender river
functional programming, a different style of programming than imperative languages like rust
ebon basin
also how does that look like fp lol
Rust is offical a fp language but the point is nearly all languages who declare the type after the literal are fp
tender river
functional programming, a different style of programming than imperative languag...
it encourages the separation of computation and state changes
tender river
Rust is offical a fp language but the point is nearly all languages who declare ...
???
rough bloom
Rust is offical a fp language but the point is nearly all languages who declare ...
no???
Rust is multi-paradigm AFAIK
tender river
rust supports some functional features but its not primarily functional
also declaring the type after the variable name is something even python does, how is that fp
ebon basin
let counter:i32 or function counter():i16 this stinks functional programming
wary rover
I really like the data type specification so far. Also .parse() is such a cool concept, really enjoyed implementing it
noble zodiac
???
opaque sigil
Guess go is a functional language now
tender river
Not all lanuages which do this are fp but a lot
let me show how a fp language i just made up in my head does it:
main : IO ()
main = do
println "Enter your name:"
name <- readln
println $ "Hello, " ++ name
Doldar sign
ebon basin
jupp this is Scala : def calcSquare(num: Int): Int = num * num
tender river
C-family languages are like the only languages with the type going before the variable name
rigid snow
i: int <- fp btw
ebon basin
Ocaml # fun x -> x * x;;
- : int -> int = <fun>
print_endline;;
- : string -> unit = <fun>
rigid snow
use codeblocks
tender river
Ocaml # fun x -> x * x;;
- : int -> int = <fun>
# print_endline;;
- : string ->...
you are looking at fp languages but you are not looking at non-fp languages, so you cant conclude anything
ebon basin
It no a law but bascially all fp or languages who "wants to be fp" do this
tender river
doubt that honestly but its opssible
rigid snow
pascal is what, 1970
tender river
thats pretty new
wary rover
Oh, I learned it at school. I made a simulation of bacteria growing
It was fun, but we had an angry teacher and she said that I did it wrong and barely passed
rigid snow
thats pretty new
well i can't think of anything older and ada which has this too is younger than pascal
sage crag
ever seen this derivative function before chat?
ebon basin
no but I saw worse
wary rover
Looks thermodynamics related
rough bloom
ever seen this derivative function before chat?
math 
sage crag
Looks thermodynamics related
its not
these are all the same
they are all the derivative of f(x)
like, in general
for any f(x)
wary rover
Every time I see math I think of thermodynamics now. I think I would do better at quantum physics than in this accursed field
Rule number 1) nothing works, rule number 2) If it works it breaks
Like have you ever seen a graph like this?
This reminds me of a dude who formulated a general formula for piston xtender in minecraft
opaque wharf
Summer of Math Exposition is such a gift to humanity
sage crag
behold, the derivative
sage crag
Like have you ever seen a graph like this?
parametric differential equations
wary rover
When the cylinder is at an angle:
ebon basin
uh found this in my stream:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2b5Qq6tmhOE
opaque wharf
uh found this in my stream:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2b5Qq6tmhOE
Chay would love that
tender river
parametric differential equations <:neuroPogHD:1057778797056901130>
you have a point with fudge i just added a whole lot of condensed milk to my coffee and it turned out great
opaque wharf
you have a point with fudge i just added a whole lot of condensed milk to my cof...
Ever tried butter coffee? I haven't, but apparently people said its good
wary rover
I put 5+ bags of black tea into one cup
sage crag
these are all the same
by the way, it's just a trick you can do
if a(h) -> h as h -> 0 then you can just substitute any function for a(h) and it works
so its cheating a little
i know that doesnt explain some of the other ones i showed but just trust me 
stark needle
hi
wary rover
Desmos is a pretty cool visualizing tool too. Made this for my next video in it
the green M&M diagram
olive sable
bred is a fraud
trim valve
but alas no ideas, head empty
tender river
clearly you should work on the hblang stdlib
wary rover
Code a 3d visualizer from the ground up
trim valve
olive sable
can you add webgl integration to hblang?
trim valve
honsetly I was mildly considering a spectrum raytracer for the shits and giggles
maiden geyser
Code a 3d visualizer from the ground up
victim of 80/20
tender river
can you add webgl integration to hblang?
its possible, but it'd be up to you
also we use automatic formatting so no braces for you
olive sable
also we use automatic formatting so no braces for you
maybe later
trim valve
chayleaf if you want me to theorise what your colour issues were I have time
sage crag
clearly you should work on the hblang stdlib
TRUE
tender river
i'm too busy drawing lines for hours on end to worry about color issues right now
sage crag
i should also do that...
trim valve
understandable
tender river
and i should work on the lsp BUT its june so i have other priorities right now
trim valve
if there's a repo or something I'd be happy to check over it
tender river
olive sable
sage crag
trim valve
I was meaning for whatever dealt with colour not hblang's stdlib 
trim valve
that's fair
tender river
anyway if you want a project youcan try switching to linux
stark needle
port pytorch to hblang then i can run a llm on konii os
ruby timber
tender river
yup you can as long as you link to libc
but, it wont run on ableos
since ableos doesnt bundle libc and theres no C to hbvm compiler
(and there probably wont be)
gritty dust
how bad is it that when I type sam on my phone it automatically corrects to SamVanMaele... haha
sage crag
how bad is it that when I type sam on my phone it automatically corrects to SamV...
probably uhh neutral
raw trout
olive sable
samvanmaele
olive sable
how bad is it that when I type sam on my phone it automatically corrects to SamV...
im just that guy
in all seriousness i think its jsut cuz im one of the only sams here
or the only one going by the name sam at least
amber fractal
I want to do very silly things
stark needle
<:neuroBlep:1155537769372844152>
olive sable
shadow is a biter
opaque wharf
shadow is a biter <:welpsagiri:1260232190613258270>
That sounds so wrong
olive sable
wait wait wait
amber fractal
olive sable
<:neuroCaughtIn4k:1066252212214431824>
this is probably one of the lesser yabai things ive said in the last week
amber fractal
I'm very much aware
olive sable
no im pretty sure you werent here 2 days ago
amber fractal
donowalled no more
tender river
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn sitting down and doing stuff is so painful when my brain doesnt let me hyperfocus
nocturne olive
anyways, i have fixed all the `-Wall` warnings <:neuroHypers:1135051812722982922...
Game engine C++ edition going well?
olive sable
cant be bothered to change the package code so i just put (int) infront of all the comparison stuff
olive sable
Game engine C++ edition going well?
ye
amber fractal
cant be bothered to change the package code so i just put (int) infront of all t...
we love int casting, it is my favorite pastime
olive sable
for some reason .size() gives long long int
amber fractal
Double checks out
nocturne olive
Probably so the size doesn't cap out at 2^31 which is quite reachable
tender river
personally i prefer fireball casting
olive sable
i cast tes....
nocturne olive
<:neuroHypers:1135051812722982922> ye
Silly
amber fractal
i cast tes....
olive sable
tender river
for some reason .size() gives `long long int`
in most cases it should give size_t
olive sable
warning: comparison of integer expressions of different signedness: 'const __gnu_cxx::__alloc_traits<std::allocator<int>, int>::value_type' {aka 'const int'} and std::vector<tinygltf::Node>::size_type' {aka 'long long unsigned int'} [-Wsign-compare]
tender river
thats size_t, its just a type alias to long long unsigned int (64-bit unsigned int) in your case
the int types are a bit unhinged in c++ since it inherited them from C
olive sable
i dont think ill need long long int so this shoudl be fine
tender river
also you can just type long long instead of long long int
"long long" most comprehensible C type name
tender river
not necessarily, but you can think of it as 4 bytes
since its 4 bytes on most platforms
if you want actual width you need to use uint32_t or int32_t
olive sable
i dont think ill be going over a couple milion vertices since then ill be getting gpu limited
shoudl be fine
tender river
olive sable
if you want actual width you need to use uint32_t or int32_t
why cant they just be normal and use fixed sizes?
thats all i want
tender river
why cant they just be normal and use fixed sizes?
also on different compilers char may be signed char or unsigned char
nocturne olive
Well, 32 bit ints are quite limiting
On the JVM for example you can't have an image with more than around 2 billion pixels
tender river
and this difference, unlike the other ones, is pretty common and has to be accounted for
nocturne olive
Well, 32 bit ints are quite limiting
On the JVM for example you can't have an im...
With the built-in image stuff anyway
olive sable
Well, 32 bit ints are quite limiting
On the JVM for example you can't have an im...
idd say 2 bilion pixels is plenty
opaque wharf
why cant they just be normal and use fixed sizes?
Then use the fixed sized one
nocturne olive
idd say 2 bilion pixels is plenty
Well, I can hit it with like a couple iterations of a thing that converts images to different larger images
And that's starting from a single pixel
tender river
also
signed char c = 0x7F;
c += 1;
std::cout << (int)c << std::endl;
is undefined behavior, the standard doesnt specify what the value will be or whether it will be printed at all
amber fractal
platform rng
olive sable
Well, I can hit it with like a couple iterations of a thing that converts images...
afaik i was limited to 1 billion pixels before for rendering, i dont remember what the limiting facotor was but it was 32k x 32k
opaque wharf
You can use this
#include <cstdint>
uint32_t hey;
idk if its actually worth doing that tho
nocturne olive
afaik i was limited to 1 billion pixels before for rendering, i dont remember wh...
Silly
tender river
You can use this
```cpp
#include <cstdint>
uint32_t hey;
```
technically its std::uint32_t and just uint32_t is not portable, but most compilers allow it
opaque wharf
idk if its actually worth doing that tho
For embedded, it's worth it
amber fractal
Someone should make a game where all of the randomness is just undefined functions
opaque wharf
technically its `std::uint32_t` and just `uint32_t` is not portable, but most co...
Oh, I didn't know that. I thought they were just a bunch of typedef alias
olive sable
For embedded, it's worth it
is not only dependant on my machine cuz it compiles on mine?
nocturne olive
Someone should make a game where all of the randomness is just undefined functio...
That would be quite silly
Just pull random garbage from random parts of memory
Though that could cause some unintentional crashes
opaque sigil
why cant they just be normal and use fixed sizes?
because the world is messy and someone has to deal with this fact
opaque wharf
is not only dependant on my machine cuz it compiles on mine?
What?
amber fractal
That would be quite silly
Just pull random garbage from random parts of memory
T...
Programmer's fault for not handling RNG correctly 
nocturne olive
It sure would be funny
tender river
why cant they just be normal and use fixed sizes?
inherited from C, use other languages designed from scratch instead of evolved through whatever passes through a committee if you want something nicer
amber fractal
Programmer's fault for not handling RNG correctly <:neuroTroll:11552813757678388...
The actual error I see is address out of bounds error in either physical or virtual memory due to dealloc
tender river
at some point any language that strives for wide adoption has to do dirty hacks instead of spending years on designing something nice
opaque wharf
Ahh, yes. Design by committee
amber fractal
nightly is the only real branch mhm
tender river
my favorite part is how some people send proposals for the C language just to add some features to C++ so there's less resistance from the C++ committee
amber fractal
They already have so much bloat to handle though
rigid snow
whoever's responsible for web standards, why exactly did you decide overscroll is transparent to all scroll related events and properties
opaque wharf
Now I wonder where Carbon lang is progressing
rigid snow
anyone in this chat responsible 
amber fractal
me
tender river
i am not responsible
rigid snow
fix it right now
olive sable
opaque wharf
High effort shitpost from Sam. Finally
rigid snow
me <:neuroTroll:1155281375767838850>
i expect the fix pushed to chrome canary in an hour thx
olive sable
i downloaded obs for this shit
amber fractal
Worth it
rigid snow
you can
hoary lion
no
rigid snow
or do you mean favorite like a gif
hoary lion
you cannot star your message
nocturne olive
Now make it a little slower and add some vertical rotation and it's literally perfect
rigid snow
interesting
opaque wharf
Why do I have so many cursed shit on my gallery
rigid snow
since i wouldn’t have starred it myself you can consider my star as yours
olive sable
i dont actually consider it starworthy lmao
nocturne olive
It's particularly silly
olive sable
idd much rather have the things i put mor effort into starred
like the game-jam stuff
wary rover
funky town
rigid snow
idd much rather have the things i put mor effort into starred
no, you will go into livestream chat and post a screenshot of a vedal's twitch message
rigid snow
erm ackschually its evil
rigid snow
amber fractal
evil slander 
olive sable
i wouldnt know, im not watching stream
rigid snow
fake fan smh
olive sable
im only here for the once every 6 months dev streams
rigid snow
"dev" streams
olive sable
"dev" streams
ye... the devs streams are in a tragic state
rough jackal
sock reveal
olive sable
well that was random
rigid snow
sock reveal
it's indonesian btmc 
nocturne olive
ye... the devs streams are in a tragic state
Well, there is one next monday
opaque wharf
it's indonesian btmc <:neuroNOWAYING:1148961698099777638>
Thats a wild statement
stark needle
too many fake fans <#1071784467036913664>
After a while it's repetitive
opaque wharf
Also, its around 3 AM there
rigid snow
Thats a wild statement
that's their discord vanity name
rough jackal
it's indonesian btmc <:neuroNOWAYING:1148961698099777638>
im ed
hoary lion
bwaa
amber fractal
I am here to bwaa
rigid snow
wait i just realized this is not general chat
ew genchatter
stark needle
I'm here for the #programming people
olive sable
bwaa bwaa bwaa bwaa bwaa
ruby timber
Bwaa!
opaque wharf
<:glueless:1282337396230328425> programming on topic as always
Yeah, a rando wander in here and didn't realize its #programming is all the proof you need
nocturne olive
I am here to bwaa
Meanwhile I develop vocal synthesizers
stark needle
And the occasional random interaction in general chat
opaque wharf
I'm here for the <#1071784467036913664> people
Same. Especially Sam. He is its own type of entertainment
rigid snow
guys concurrency amirite?
amber fractal
I used to genchat, not anymore
ruby timber
Genchat scares me
stark needle
sam altman
stark needle
Genchat scares me
olive sable
Meanwhile I develop vocal synthesizers
i do wonder, what exactly is the input for neurosynth?
an audio file with the singing parts only?
stark needle
Whyyy
nocturne olive
i do wonder, what exactly is the input for neurosynth?
an audio file with the si...
It uses a cool GUI similar to SynthV, just an open-source one
amber fractal
https://tenor.com/view/monkey-zoo-monkey-grab-monkey-safevino-monkey-shirt-grab-...
Can I just vibe in the cage?
olive sable
sure
hoary lion
It uses a cool GUI similar to SynthV, just an open-source one
tet
nocturne olive
i do wonder, what exactly is the input for neurosynth?
an audio file with the si...
SynthV for reference
amber fractal
1:1 copy paste every message
no no, replace every word with bwaa, and every emoji with :bwaadow:
nocturne olive
SynthV for reference
Basically you define the lyrics and pitch and possibly some other parameters
olive sable
in english it would be with an i
nocturne olive
Basically you define the lyrics and pitch and possibly some other parameters
Text on notes: lyrics
Note vertical position: coarse pitch
Note horizontal position: timing
Note horizontal length: duration
The curved line: fine pitch curve
It's pretty fun once you get used to it, and way more flexible than RVC
olive sable
nocturne olive
i do wonder, what exactly is the input for neurosynth?
an audio file with the si...
That audio file input would be RVC by the way
stark needle
no no, replace every word with bwaa, and every emoji with :bwaadow:
no
nocturne olive
Vocal synthesizers are much more powerful than RVC
And with a fully open-source tech stack NeuroSynth will be way more accessible than Neuro RVC + SynthV
rigid snow
That audio file input would be RVC by the way
theoretically not impossible to have an audio input to a vocal synth, i'd be surprised if that isn't a thing yet
nocturne olive
Both SynthV and the software used for NeuroSynth do support some sort of pitch transcription from an existing audio file to use as a base to work off of
rigid snow
ah hah
nocturne olive
RVC is soley for voice conversion, no?
It's just a voice changer, yeah
nocturne olive
it is not for singing a new song
Well, if you combine it with a vocal synthesizer it can, that's what we did for the game jam last year
rigid snow
despite producing for many many years and being in the know about vocaloid and stuff i never actually used a vocal synth
nocturne olive
despite producing for many many years and being in the know about vocaloid and s...
Maybe that'll change when NeuroSynth comes out
rigid snow
Maybe that'll change when NeuroSynth comes out
probably not,
- i just feel weird about it, feels like skinwalking to me a bit
- i know it's hard to tune vocals to sound good - not just vocal synths, even editing an actual human vocal with stuff like melodyne/antares autotune manual mode/etc (from actual experience)
- the music i make isn't close to what typical "vocaloid music" is
- i don't listen to that outside of occasional exposure from things like osu
nocturne olive
Silly
rigid snow
silly indeed
hoary lion
vocaloid is peak
nocturne olive
NeuroSynth isn't actually that hard to tune once you get it
I finally got it with my latest cover and it sounds great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1HNHqSdGW4
If anyone wants to check it
(slight DELTARUNE ch3 spoiler warning)
tender river
yippee vulns https://discourse.nixos.org/t/pre-disclosure-announcement-security-advisory-for-nix-and-lix-on-june-24-2025/65831/7
hoary lion
when will we have D lang
hoary lion
oh it is
tender river
its something between go and c
olive sable
Does h have a language yet?
hoary lion
hblang
amber fractal
F# also exists (don't know any by the name of F)
olive sable
hblang <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
That is what i was thinking ye
opaque wharf
hblang <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
You fool. Now you've summoned him
olive sable
Him?
opaque wharf
Her
olive sable
Ah
opaque wharf
I don't know man
olive sable
Lmao
amber fractal
I exist therefore I am
amber fractal
Im not btw
Not yet™️
opaque wharf
Neuro-sama even goes by the name Sam when she was younger
amber fractal
The programming pipeline to femboy
You forgot the femboy to trans step due to rust
trim valve
can confirm rust does that
opaque wharf
Well, Sam can be glad to not have to part with his partner then
opaque wharf
Brother what
You didn't choose rust no?
olive sable
Im c++ rn