programming

[sour harness]

Get diagnosed first. It's annoying how many people just self-diagnose without any idea

[trim jungle]

I had some doctors tell me I have it but no actual formal diagnosis

Like, in hospital

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/saruei-vtuber-undiagnosed-tism-tounge-gif-16920780932927093288

[hoary lion]

I remember that one harvard experiment

[sour harness]

Of which how many were psychologists?

[hoary lion]

faking symptoms

[olive sable]

i got diagnosed as a child

was a weird year

[trim jungle]

None

[hoary lion]

[trim jungle]

But should the diagnosis be done by a psychiatrist?

[sour harness]

Of course

[opaque wharf]

Yes

So you can be professionally certified autistic

[olive sable]

let the tism flow through you

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[trim jungle]

I just never saw any "benefits" of actually going to getting a diagnose in my country

[hoary lion]

true

[trim jungle]

Probably there are demerits here tbh

[olive sable]

you get to skip the line in disneyland which is pretty poggers

[trim jungle]

There's no Disneyland here

[olive sable]

in europe at least

[trim jungle]

Only land

[hoary lion]

bruh what is this benefit

[trim jungle]

And not much land left

[olive sable]

most of the benefits are for entertainment

and a livable wage for if you're unable to work

which im abusing

[trim jungle]

Then I'll go get one after getting a stable income

Or when I have the means to travel to Europe

[olive sable]

if you get a stable income they'l see you're able to work so you wont get paid

[trim jungle]

I mean to get the free line skippas

[olive sable]

ah

[stark needle]

I don't recommend getting a formal diagnosis

[olive sable]

you should

gives cool benefits

[stark needle]

Also only a psychologist or a psychiatrist can tell you you have it

[stark needle]

An asd diagnosis costs 4-5k

Also

[olive sable]

fr?
damn

[sour harness]

Not if you live in a country that is not the US

[olive sable]

shadow live in switserland lmao

[trim jungle]

We're so back

[trim jungle]

It's so over

[olive sable]

switserland has expensivw healthcare thos o its to be expected

[safe path]

same

i can't get releases

[olive sable]

o7

[safe path]

the site itself seems fine

[trim jungle]

We're so fucking back

[hoary lion]

can't access to subfolders 😭

something is wrong but they acting like it is okay

[stark needle]

Also in the US

[opaque wharf]

Its MS turn to ruin the internet

[stark needle]

And many places

[olive sable]

yep

im pretty usre it was moslty covered under insurance for me

[stark needle]

The asd test kit and iq test and shit are expensive

[opaque wharf]

Meta with their BGP, Google with their config, now MS with whatever is happening in Github

[stark needle]

Iq test alone is 500$-700$

[olive sable]

"test kit" they didnt have that themselves?

i do remember doing those tests, was weird

[hoary lion]

IQ test??

[sour harness]

Skill issue. Go to Mensa where it's like a tenth of that.

[stark needle]

They do but they still cjarge you a ton

[hoary lion]

man this is a scam

who pays for iq test in this economy

😭

[olive sable]

ye they did an iq test, im not gonna flex here tho so ill shut

the results are pretty meaningless anyways

i do trust it more than a random website tho

[stark needle]

They are not meaningless

They check for adhd

[olive sable]

what is an iq test supposed to say about adhd?

[stark needle]

Adhd will give you shit scores in the memory section

Like

80 iq type shit

[hoary lion]

dayum

[olive sable]

oh. i guess thats how my brother got diagnosed with adhd huh...

o7

i have good short term but terrible long term

[stark needle]

So since autism and adhd are very similar they need to rule it out

[olive sable]

ahhh

makes sense

[hoary lion]

free claude max

[olive sable]

become the claude max

[trim jungle]

I had a brother with really high IQ and still got diagnosed with ADHD though

[olive sable]

had?

[trim jungle]

Where

[trim jungle]

Have*

[olive sable]

ah

lmao

[hoary lion]

some good tech bro

sharing accounts

🔥

[trim jungle]

Well, he got a high results way back then

[wet basin]

lmao the pfp

hi programming chat

my dears

neurosHug~1

[trim jungle]

A real one

[hoary lion]

gigaosage

so peak

[trim jungle]

I think GitHub only has Claude 3.5, right?

[hoary lion]

this is why I still have gpt subscription

[olive sable]

wowowow
take me out to dinner first

[hoary lion]

no, they do have 3.7

[wet basin]

I would take you out to moon

[hoary lion]

but no opus

[wet basin]

AmeliaWink

anywhere you like

[uneven pulsar]

wazzup

[olive sable]

can it be the frie place?

im hungry

[wet basin]

talking about moon, isnt the moon pretty?

AmeliaSmug

[olive sable]

is this considered flirting?

[wet basin]

I dunno

I do this for fun

[olive sable]

i dunno either

[wet basin]

InaNod

its fine

men flirt with men

for funsies

[olive sable]

kissing the homies goodnight

[uneven pulsar]

is it me 0r?

[wet basin]

lmao

[hoary lion]

this is next level flirting

[trim jungle]

What is that?

[hoary lion]

expensive ahh

most expensive model afaik

[uneven pulsar]

are yall flirting???😭

wtf

[hoary lion]

yes

[wet basin]

had to see me rizzing my prior girlfriend

[olive sable]

just to be clear, im straight

[hoary lion]

can someone rizz that guy too

[wet basin]

I am straight too

[trim jungle]

I really love the moon, but on my shit city I only see it about 1/3 of the nights

[trim jungle]

Average straight men experience

[wet basin]

damn

[wet basin]

yes indeed

I love programming chat

InaNod

based people

[stark needle]

Ye if the rest is high

[uneven pulsar]

i am confused are guys flirting????

[trim jungle]

Damn

[uneven pulsar]

wtf😭

[wet basin]

flirting for the funsies

[hoary lion]

💌

[olive sable]

you say that like you're not part of the homies

[trim jungle]

Just for the real ones

[uneven pulsar]

ahhh yeah its not wrong if its with the homies

[uneven pulsar]

i guess so

[wet basin]

I hit on my homie everyday

InaNod

[uneven pulsar]

great 4 u😭

[wet basin]

with an iron pipe

[hoary lion]

we are ALL hitting on our homies

[stark needle]

Wtf am i reading

[olive sable]

lmao

[hoary lion]

welcome to pride version of #programming

[stark needle]

Do not hit on me

Thank you

[uneven pulsar]

idk random bullshit i supose so?

[hoary lion]

where we rizz everyone

[wet basin]

would never

[olive sable]

oh shit its pride month today

[wet basin]

Programming chat -> rizzing chat

[hoary lion]

[wet basin]

LMAO

[olive sable]

or well, this month i guess

[uneven pulsar]

if you hit me ill parry

[hoary lion]

AI assisted paper

[wet basin]

ya

[uneven pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-brick-parry-gif-27597104

[wet basin]

ok programming chat just so u know I love u

neurosHug~1

[olive sable]

thanks?

[wet basin]

I hope u guys stay well

[wet basin]

bro is confused

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-and-i-love-you-random-citizen-i-love-you-metro-man-parasocial-relationships-gif-21170390

[wet basin]

InaPatPat

[trim jungle]

It isn't gay if you don't hold hands

[wet basin]

I will hold your hands it will not be gay

[trim jungle]

Bet

[olive sable]

is that the only requirement? just not holding hands????

[wet basin]

https://tenor.com/view/ichigo-mashimaro-strawberry-marshmallow-anime-friends-spin-gif-5657110892145204216

me with elyeet

[bright scaffold]

So hard...

[olive sable]

shut

[hoary lion]

holding hands is still not gay

change my mind

[wet basin]

SuspeciousTriggered

[trim jungle]

*in a strictly straight way

[bright scaffold]

I need to upload 34 releases...

And after repeat it on the Modrinth...

[olive sable]

you're gonna make the mods see #programming at a weird time

[bright scaffold]

[wet basin]

https://tenor.com/view/asthetic-anime-love-gif-18359262

[wet basin]

yes

[hoary lion]

so tuff 🔥

[bright scaffold]

I dont making the mods...

I making a resourcepack...

[wet basin]

ami what

funny how the sentence is still wrong even after editing it

[olive sable]

lmoa

[wet basin]

sam

[hoary lion]

lmao

[wet basin]

MGuraEyes

sam

[olive sable]

thats me

im sam

[wet basin]

https://tenor.com/view/syno-i-love-you-syno-synowithazero-gif-2023483407273504018

[olive sable]

sam desu

[wet basin]

hoshi desu

InaNod

[opaque wharf]

Neuro say big thigh, yet the scale from 3d model said otherwise

[olive sable]

uhhh

[bright scaffold]

im bad in English bwaa

[hoary lion]

bwaa mentioned

[wet basin]

InaPatPat

[hoary lion]

[olive sable]

her model is supposed to be like a child no?

[trim jungle]

[wet basin]

I thought so too yeah

[trim jungle]

She's AI

[opaque wharf]

Yeah

[olive sable]

well y ei knew that part

[opaque wharf]

That's why the bot plan is around 4'

[hoary lion]

smol

[olive sable]

im in the fucking neurasama discord

[hoary lion]

[wet basin]

sam keyboard is gone

rip

AmeliaPraySmol

[opaque wharf]

Neurosam lol

[olive sable]

im bad at tying okay

[trim jungle]

Poor shoes

[opaque wharf]

What do you need to be tied?

[wet basin]

Sam likes to get tied?

[opaque wharf]

At this hour and while #programming chat is questionable

[wet basin]

:o

[olive sable]

my school lwearned me to type blind with azerty cuz belgium. and my curreent keyboard is qwerty

[wet basin]

I didnt know sam likes that kind of thing

GuraFlushed

[olive sable]

so im kinda just typing with 2 fingers real quick

[trim jungle]

Witchcraft

[wet basin]

agreed

[trim jungle]

Try typeracer

I did that for like 2 months straight

Almost 4 hours a day

[olive sable]

i dont have that kind of time

[trim jungle]

Learned qwerty with 10 fingers

[hoary lion]

@grok is this true???

[wet basin]

I was typing for the last decade

I am so used to typing I can type in literal darkness

my eyes closed, with %95 accuracy

[trim jungle]

Just type twice as fast then you type 4 hours in 2 hours

[olive sable]

i mean, if a hot girl does it sure? i plead the 5th

[bright scaffold]

wtf github

[trim jungle]

But what if a bro does it?

[thorny marsh]

nixos + hyprland is too hard man, istg this process has been harder than installing arch AINTNOWAY

[wet basin]

hanaSus

[worldly plank]

Are you tired, drunk, or just typing while blind?

[olive sable]

nah

[olive sable]

me?

[worldly plank]

Yes

[olive sable]

im just like this sadly

[wet basin]

neurosHug~1

[hoary lion]

😭

see this is not only me

[olive sable]

skill issue

[hoary lion]

grr

[olive sable]

local servers just dying i guess

[hoary lion]

ima tie you up sam

[olive sable]

no consent

[bright scaffold]

Why the first 4 releases links worked on files, and in 5 stopped without reason although I do the same...?

[olive sable]

[hoary lion]

stop sacrificing bwaadow

[wet basin]

If we tie sam, surely the github will work

AmeliaSmug

[olive sable]

mods help

[wet basin]

I thought mods have abandoned this place, no?

[trim jungle]

We need a sacrifice for the git gods

[olive sable]

they come lurk on occasion

[wet basin]

oh

whos the one that lurks the most

[hoary lion]

sigma

very sigma

one of #programming individuals

[olive sable]

shiro, vanor and heir have all 3 been known to come here on occasion

[thorny marsh]

im losing my marbles with all of this shit ive gone through 2 days and 8 fucking generations yet i still have no GUI

strangely enough sddm and lightdm works but hyprland just refuses to do so even when launching it from the tty

[wet basin]

I am mostly on gen-chat

though rare

[thorny marsh]

like whats up with this bro AINTNOWAY

[olive sable]

i can tell

[wet basin]

We see shiro and rafie there a lot

as well as temmie

[olive sable]

[wet basin]

Trust me I still love here

InaNod

[tender river]

only 8? thats pretty tame

[wet basin]

u guys must know byter right?

[tender river]

i went through 200 generations while configuring my router

[wet basin]

byter the cutest

[olive sable]

i plead the 5th

lots of pleading today

[wet basin]

you will reach usage limit

AmeliaSmug

[trim jungle]

Well chat I have to go back to work or else they'll notice I've been doing nothing

Cya!

[hoary lion]

ciao

👋

[olive sable]

bye

[wet basin]

bye elyeet

hold hands with ya next time

NodNod

[olive sable]

i cant tell what is happening anymore

is this just the effect of pridemonth?

[wet basin]

I casually flirted with everyone in here

no

I am like this

just very open and somehow humorish

[hoary lion]

i genuinely like this

🙂‍↕️

[wet basin]

lmao

[olive sable]

in june, the Hoshikage sapien migrates towards #programming for its mating ritual

[hoary lion]

make programming more 🏳️‍🌈

[wet basin]

[wet basin]

spreading bad reputation

[thorny marsh]

AINTNOWAY

[wet basin]

just tell people I am a lovely and nice guy instead

[thorny marsh]

this is normal to yall?

[olive sable]

most of us are guys so not much choise lmao

[olive sable]

not to me

[wet basin]

clearly those individuals do not have the marbles you have mentioned

[tender river]

edit config -> switch configuration -> repeat until satisfactory results

[wet basin]

probably lost them before so they do not mind anymore

[olive sable]

this is the gayest #programming has been since i joined in decemeber of 2023

i dont mind tho

[thorny marsh]

i mean yeah but 200 ☠️

[wet basin]

no one minds

InaNod

its not harmful or fucked up

[thorny marsh]

ive completely blanked out your gaytalk cause im too mentally cooked with what im doing NeuroDerp

[wet basin]

its just literally messing around with people together

[olive sable]

oh

i thought "is this normal to yall" was about our convo lmao

[tender river]

i also ended up writing ~10k lines of nix code for it

[opaque wharf]

Let me just drop this bomb to neutralise the gayness a bit

[olive sable]

AAAAAAAAAA

[wet basin]

NijikaSob

[olive sable]

bring it back

[wet basin]

never do this again

my fucking eyes

ew

[olive sable]

as long as i dont have to see that

[opaque wharf]

It works wonderful it seems

[olive sable]

we need

to type

more text

quickly

[wet basin]

I will tie you up with sam

[olive sable]

nooooo

[wet basin]

lmaooo

[olive sable]

i shgould not have typed that

my reputation is in the gutter

[opaque wharf]

Tie sam up with that turtle and you have a deal

[olive sable]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wet basin]

I will include you

not the turtle

[olive sable]

anything but the turtle

[wet basin]

I will remove that turtle out of existence

thats not vedal

thats literally a chimera of human x turtle

[olive sable]

i would rather kiss the homies goodnight than look at that turtle

[opaque wharf]

Soo, his child?

[olive sable]

get out

[wet basin]

no

[wet basin]

kiss computed

so he will never do this again

[tender river]

anyway if you have questions about nixos feel free to ping me, please dont ask about hyprland though as i dislike the project

[wet basin]

scare him with gayness

[uneven pulsar]

okay while i was gone what happened??💀

[thorny marsh]

isee

was your initial nix setup also this painful

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

im not gay so i cant

[hoary lion]

freakysang

[wet basin]

I said gayness, not be gay

[olive sable]

thats the same thing dawg

[tender river]

well sway just worked i think

[wet basin]

no

[tender river]

also i use home-manager

[thorny marsh]

? why UNFOCUS

[wet basin]

you dont need to be a bad guy to scare people with something evil

anyway if I talk here for any longer like this mods will get angy to me

[olive sable]

i lieke how chayleaf and bluro are tryign to have a normal convo in the middle of this insanity

[wet basin]

so you guys talk about programming

[olive sable]

yes

that is the channel

[wet basin]

next time I will chat here using python

[olive sable]

okay

[tender river]

https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html
https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html

[opaque wharf]

Ask chay, why are you gae

[uneven pulsar]

why are you guys still flirting

[hoary lion]

we not

we back to advanced knowledge discussion

[uneven pulsar]

this is so random

[olive sable]

why?
thats pretty personal no?

[hoary lion]

am still thinking about how to make TTS

like genuinely

[olive sable]

im not trying to

[hoary lion]

there is no golden way

[bright scaffold]

I think i need a rest...

[wet basin]

def greet:
print("Hoshikage:")
print("Hi yall ")

greet()

[opaque wharf]

As with everything programming

[thorny marsh]

oh lobotomy

[hoary lion]

well other stuff, even in ML do have some 'common' ways

but all in this audio field it is just single activation

[uneven pulsar]

imagine suddenly seeing pepe flirting its funny but kinda funny like some lobotomy

[hoary lion]

[bright scaffold]

https://github.com/ami-amai/neurosama-of-undying U can check it if u want

[uneven pulsar]

idk💀

[wet basin]

good work so far ami

InaPatPat

[hoary lion]

"use snake activation" okay and so??

[thorny marsh]

ffs hyprland looked like the best one too

[wet basin]

rest well

[bright scaffold]

But im not finished it yet...

[uneven pulsar]

my github page looks shit

[tender river]

better question why would i be straight thats so boring

[olive sable]

[tender river]

there are a lot of interesting vms though, i use sway but theres a lot of options

sorry wms

[olive sable]

there is just a common consensus that woman are pog, both the men and woman in #programming agree

[opaque wharf]

[uneven pulsar]

why your bio say ur a menor😭

[opaque wharf]

Bro why are you looking at people bio

[uneven pulsar]

idk

i just thought of why not

[olive sable]

bios are there for a reason no?

[thorny marsh]

why does that matter to you

[opaque wharf]

I guess yeah

[uneven pulsar]

[opaque wharf]

I'm so used to just chatter without a profile lol

[olive sable]

welp, let smove on......

[uneven pulsar]

um i am no gonna invoke my self with these stuff

[hoary lion]

yes please

[olive sable]

i have done absolutly nothing in the lasst hour due to this absolutly deranged convo jsut now

[uneven pulsar]

i think i go back messing around with godot

[olive sable]

honestly the mods shoudl just wipe the last 2 hours

[thorny marsh]

can ya recommend some (cause i might just give up with hyprland at this point)

[bright scaffold]

I also made page for releases

[hoary lion]

please chill claude research 😭

[uneven pulsar]

i mean idk if your where flirting or not i mean its not wrong if its with the hommies right

[hoary lion]

336 sources??

[uneven pulsar]

is it a lm model?

[stark needle]

meow

[olive sable]

meow

[uneven pulsar]

bwa

[hoary lion]

niuh

[wide flicker]

iuh

[hoary lion]

(i cant pay for nitro)

[olive sable]

[thorny marsh]

i have personally tried both kde and gnome (ubuntu) before fyi

[opaque wharf]

Same

[bright scaffold]

what is lm means?

[tender river]

sway is the safe choice
i want to try out niri
river is another popular one i think

[hoary lion]

thanks sam

[olive sable]

np

[uneven pulsar]

language model

machine learning

[opaque wharf]

So, language model model?

[tender river]

also you can just go with gnome or kde and try out wms later, the beauty of nixos is you can just go back if it doesnt work out

[bright scaffold]

No

[uneven pulsar]

llm is large learning model

[hoary lion]

huh

oh lol

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-my-head-gif-26041934

[uneven pulsar]

guys today my auntie send me 50 bucks what shoud i buy?

[opaque wharf]

RTX 5090

You didn't say the 50 bucks is all you had

[bright scaffold]

its just a simple script on js

[stone cedar]

TIL: AMD GPUs just don't support D24S8 formats – like at all.
But they support D32S8 since like 2013 ... for reasons?

[thorny marsh]

isee, seems like i don't like any of what ive seen so far though simply because of nitpicks like the lack of animations or weird design choices so i may have to go back to kde Copium

thanks though

[tender river]

why would you need animations??? but if you want it try wayfire

[thorny marsh]

nah it doesn't fit me

[tender river]

wayfire is pretty customizable

[thorny marsh]

im really really into ui/ux stuff and i looove visual eye candy

[thorny marsh]

i don't think a 3d compositor fits me imo

[tender river]

it doesnt have to be 3d...

did you just look at a single screenshot or something

[thorny marsh]

UNFOCUS

yknow what fine then ill try it

[tender river]

anyway nothing wrong with using kde

[thorny marsh]

...tomorrow as its 1am UNFOCUS

[olive sable]

why is c++ compiling single threaded?
is it just a thread per file?

[tender river]

its a single process per compile unit as long as you do it properly

a compile unit is generally a .c or .cpp file

its hard to parallelize and generally not worth it as bigger apps are gonna be split into more files anyway

[olive sable]

okay

doesnt it cache files that didnt change?

[tender river]

incremental compilation? if you use a proper build system then it should

i think at least

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Yes, thats correct

But build system is ass on C/C++

[tender river]

thing is its hard to check what changed when headers can change

[olive sable]

true

its just everytime i compile my pc start zooming

and then i look and its just a single thread

[opaque wharf]

Its because you probably didn't compile it separately for each compilation unit. Or you only have 1 compilation unit

[olive sable]

its probably just cuz im only changing 1 file rn

[uneven pulsar]

nuro

[olive sable]

nuro

i got the notification

[sage crag]

https://git.ablecorp.eu/lily-org/hblang-vscode/commit/d5a8592acaf7cd45844a0f586f049a71b227f0d8
0.3.2

[sage crag]

incremental compilation for hblang when

[tender river]

the lsp will be natively icnremental

it cant really work any other way

i mean it can

but not on a large scale

and im trying to design a proper lsp

[nocturne olive]

Turns out 3800MT/s is the limit of my DRAM frequency
Guess all I have now is the timings

[olive sable]

[tender river]

@noble zodiac or @opaque sigil do you know any languages that have modules for operations like addition so you can e.g. create a custom ring or monoid without creating a wrapper type?

[nocturne olive]

Now testing with slightly tighter timings than linear, current is 3800-18-23-23-40

[opaque sigil]

Huh

[tender river]

i'm thinking about what it would take to build a language focused on extensibility and wallowing in despair as i realize it needs to be based on commutativity and associativity so i will likely have to have a proof checker as part of the language

[opaque sigil]

wdym with modules

[nocturne olive]

It sounds low quality

[tender river]

so haskell has typeclasses, you can define addition for a specific type, are there languages that let you separate operations and types? i mean you can just create functions for that but thats super adhoc and i'm wondering if there are better solutions

also wrapper types dont have to be as annoying as e.g. in rust so its not necessarily a bad solution to be fair

[opaque sigil]

I assume scala doesn't work then? Since you'd implement addition just as a function called +

[tender river]

i'm basically looking for something like typeclasses but with non-global scope which sounds very unergonomic which is why i'm looking for prior art to figure out if i should give up on that idea

[opaque sigil]

Ah

Uhhhhhh

[nocturne olive]

(linear is something like 19-24-24-XX(I haven't calculated the final number))

[opaque sigil]

Idk

[tender river]

i think ML's first-class modules may be what i'm looking for

[opaque sigil]

I'm still a bit confused as to what you're looking for but I also just woke up from a nap so there's that

[slate pumice]

I’m curious about something. My boyfriend is considering making an AI entertainer himself and I’m wondering how to ethically source data and other things so that we’re giving credit where credit is due and not stealing things

[tender river]

heres an article on the topic https://existentialtype.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/modules-matter-most/

[slate pumice]

Like how do you find datasets and other things so it can generate stuff without using stolen work?

[nocturne olive]

Ethical data sourcing? That's not a thing in actually good LLMs (unless you use stuff that is specifically public domain probably)

[tender river]

sorry to say but thats not very realistic, any corpo-made open source llm will be trained on stolen data

[nocturne olive]

That's the neat part, you don't

[slate pumice]

Oh dang

Well then

[tender river]

not to mention non-open source llms

[slate pumice]

I rest my case

[tender river]

there are some models like that but they are usually of very limited scope

[slate pumice]

But I always heard that Vedal did use ethical methods of training Neuro?

[tender river]

from whom?

[slate pumice]

Fair

[tender river]

anyway, we dont know what data vedal uses

[sage crag]

notable things about this release:

• 21 lines smaller
• cross-file linting works
• drop dependency on diff and fs
• probably faster idk
• hot config reloading

[slate pumice]

I just remembered somewhere someone say that

[tender river]

but he most defintely uses an existing model which was trained on stolen data

[slate pumice]

Gotcha

[tender river]

and finetunes it on either stolen or not stolen data

[rigid snow]

this is so cute, my correction as a diff

[slate pumice]

Well alright then that answers my questions

[warped narwhal]

you can probably count on one hand the number of models that are actually fully trained on open source data

[tender river]

being trained on open source data doesnt mean the models are legally in the clear

[warped narwhal]

you know what I meant

free data

[rigid snow]

why not

[warped narwhal]

as in liberty

[tender river]

open source just means you can copy with attribution

it doesnt mean you can e.g. copy and remove credits (leaving aside whether ai training is copying)

[rigid snow]

i think you're misunderstanding

not on open-source code, on datasets that are explicitly licensed as free

[tender river]

then thats gonna be closer to something like public domain or cc0

[rigid snow]

yeah that's how i understood it

[rigid snow]

the original openai codex (github copilot) was exactly that and was flamed for it

[tender river]

the industry is just going into the "sure it might be copying in some cases but we don't really care" direction

[olive sable]

it kinda loads now...
probably something thats a result of the rotationmatrix i was using before with the triangle

[nocturne olive]

That looks so silly

[olive sable]

some nice spaghetiffication

[nocturne olive]

What audio codecs will the new engine support?

[olive sable]

idk

whatever sdl supports

[sage crag]

sdl does all the things

but it does it better on sdl3

[olive sable]

i could probably upgrade to sdl3 later down the line

[warped narwhal]

[olive sable]

yes

onedrive

get over it

[warped narwhal]

I cannot easily ignore warcrimes like that

[nocturne olive]

That's a lot

[tender river]

you can do it already because theres an sdl3 to sdl2 compatibility shim i think

[sage crag]

yes

sdl2-compat on arch linux

[olive sable]

i just cant be bothered to try to get it to work after the hastle that was sdl2

[nocturne olive]

Notable ones include:

• WAV
• OGG
• FLAC

[opaque sigil]

Funky

[sage crag]

which ogg

opus or vorbis

[opaque sigil]

opus my beloved

[olive sable]

is ogg notable? i thought yall didnt like being limited to that

[nocturne olive]

Vorbis

[sage crag]

opus and vorbis are very good for compressed audio

[nocturne olive]

OGG is my favorite compressed audio format

[olive sable]

ah

[sage crag]

but FLAC is better if you want lossless audio

[nocturne olive]

I mean lossy

Favorite is FLAC for lossless and OGG for lossy

[olive sable]

we could probably do flac this time then

[nocturne olive]

Maybe
Or mix FLAC and OGG

[olive sable]

unles sthere are some restricitions with emscripten?

[nocturne olive]

A lot of games use a lossless format for sound effects and lossy for music
But if size is not of concern we can just directly pack FLAC files (I can encode if needed)

[olive sable]

we can limit the file size if need be, but i dont expect the game to be too large

[nocturne olive]

If audio decoding speed becomes a bottleneck somehow we can go as far as using WAV files

[tender river]

i just think that existing languages often enforce ordering where they shouldnt (not always at least):

• tuples
• function bodies being a sequence of operations even if some of it could be easily ran in parallel
• types as trees rather than sets/maps (in fp people realized that and are now trying to create algebraic effect systems which are more composable than monads, in oop inheritance is often used to alleviate the issue)

and the reason you may not want order is, there often just isn't one, for example, if you have two modules in your program they shouldn't really have a particular order (besides maybe topological)
tree shaped composition often works very awkwardly, but when it's set shaped (like in bevy) it's often much nicer
not to mention parallel computing where you can't rely on order

idk i'm not sure where i'm going with these ideas but i want to try experimenting with them to see where it brings me

nuro

[tender river]

also there are success stories of using nice algebraic properties for better composition, like pijul

[tender river]

I also have this completely abstract idea of programs as sets of modules that you can remove and add at runtime but that sounds incredibly hard to implement and it would probably have tons of caveats

anyway good night

[warped narwhal]

Guess what I just paid 10 bucks a year for:

https://an_inconspicuous_semicolon.iusevimbtw.com/

[lapis wraith]

having to understand json schemas for this to work is getting hard but i'm getting somewhere.

[nocturne olive]

What are you trying to do?

[lapis wraith]

What I have doubts is on this JSON schema.
I mean.. this works, but I would love some kinda parser to change the "options" property name to whatever string I have on a variable.
Just for... aesthetic purposes, nothing else

[trim jungle]

iusevimbtw.com is actually hard af

[nocturne olive]

Well, I don't know what language you're working with and what you're trying to do with it

[lapis wraith]

That's javascript. The whole project? A bad idea: Neuro integration for Shapez 1. This json schema is what allows the SDK to choose a map from your save files.

[nocturne olive]

Quite silly
And very much will be hard to get her to understand game states with that and be able to know what's around her, and stuff like that, an LLM is quite limiting in this usecase

Also that looks like very silly JavaScript

Never seen inline Json in JavaScript

[trim jungle]

Kinda common in web dev

With jsx and tsx

But yeah, looks silly

[lapis wraith]

I know... map description will absolutely be the absolute hardest part of this. I'm kinda hoping external vision could help her. That's why i made a coordinate grid. But that's just a whole bunch of

[nocturne olive]

Neuro API games are usually played with vision off

[trim jungle]

I think you can just

schema.properties.new_name = {...};

[maiden geyser]

finally, a font better than comic mono

[lapis wraith]

i'm not only hoping for vision only. I'm gonna try several options and shove the most worthy onto a custom options panel I've made for this integration

[nocturne olive]

Silly

[lapis wraith]

It's minecraft mono font. Works surprisingly well. I've being using it for quite a while now.

[trim jungle]

So simplify the actions that neuro can take?

[sage crag]

m

[opaque sigil]

w

[sage crag]

MEGAWATTS

[opaque sigil]

[lapis wraith]

That also will be an option i'll put in. I can think of simplifying for example the "select building" and "place building" to merge it onto one.
But not a lot I can think of really.
I need the basics of this working first...

[opaque wharf]

I'm back. What fuckery is sam up to now?

[olive sable]

Not much

Gltf stuff

And reviewing for my exams

[opaque wharf]

Ahh, I see. I do wonder tho, is it possible to do some part of it in JS. Because IIRC gltf is native for the web. But then you still need it for the native one huh

[olive sable]

Im just doing it in c++

[nocturne olive]

Sounds like a low quality UTAU

NeuroSynth is trained on about 1GB of data for BETA-3

1TB????

That's a bit... excessive

Oh

How much is the dataset then?

Note that adding more data won't fix low quality data

At most it'll average out the noise

Any major consistent artifacts will be left in the output

By the way, are you using a completely custom model architecture or using some existing arch?

Interesting

RVC?

Why?

What does RVC have to do with vocal synthesis?

RVC is a voice changer which can be used for singing in combination with a vocal synthesizer

That's literally what was wrong with the old SynthV + RVC pipleine, it includes SynthV

The new NeuroSynth pipeline is pure vocal synthesis

[lapis wraith]

I managed to make it work. It looks horrendous, but this works as I intended. Thank you anyways.

[opaque sigil]

that seems kinda pointless, what's stopping you from setting the field directly

[lapis wraith]

Nothing in the slightest. It's just an aesthetic reason. Completely pointless

[opaque sigil]

const optionsName = "options";

const schema = {
    type: "object",
    properties: {
        [optionsName]: {
            enum: [],
        },
    },
    required: [optionsName],
};

you can also just do this btw

[lapis wraith]

WHOOT? That looks way cleaner. Thank you.

[opaque sigil]

if you ever need to set a property in an object via a variable that's how you do it, pretty convenient when it comes up

[desert wave]

this does indeed look horrendous (without reading any of the code)

[opaque wharf]

Also, Object.assign will let you do some wizardry like returning tuple [a,b] but also an object of {a, b}

The Object in JS has some nifty features

[opaque sigil]

yea

[lapis wraith]

[opaque sigil]

also TIL bun & node handle console formatting differently by default

[lapis wraith]

Okey. God JS does magic. This inserts the entire array values on the json
I don't have to insert them in a for loop

Well... thank you all for the help. Now it's.. 2AM I gotta sleep.

[tight tinsel]

good morning

[keen atlas]

morning

[gritty dust]

morning

[gritty dust]

morning

[warped narwhal]

Good morning (it is 2am)

[dense cosmos]

Morning

[gritty dust]

(sleep

[gritty dust]

Morning

[amber fractal]

Ah yes the (8,2) (8,1) (8,1) lack of broadcasting error, I got no clue why it doesn't want to. I guess it can be fixed one way or another

[faint sandal]

[amber fractal]

Surely all of the viruses you check will be properly flagged as viruses

[faint sandal]

uploads actual malware
safe

i just checked their data that they claimed to support the 92% detection rate

n=10071

that's like... barely anything

[opaque sigil]

it's over 9000

[amber fractal]

I rember np.choose being selecting form each, where tf is it writing

unless it is cloning once and overwritting values with the other

[gritty dust]

Yooo I tested the robotic arm at school with the vision code and it kind of works, aka it's fixable let's gooo

[amber fractal]

"Then, a new array with shape Ba.shape is created"

ig it is supposed to broadcast everything to a common shape, but it didn't do that either

Man I love docs that don't at all repersent what I'm doing

the docs say this should just work

Why do I have to broadcast, and why do I have to still have errors when I'm doing about the same thing

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

[opaque wharf]

Its an ancient art called lying. Or it could also be bugs and you should report that

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

Today i have 2 exams

[prime ridge]

I swear it's always:

Batch size: 200. ✅
Batch size: 1. OOM ERROR ❌

[olive sable]

Welp, wish me luck.
In Louis Victor Pierre Raymond, Duc De Broglie we pray

[faint sandal]

[uneven pulsar]

m0rning

[noble zodiac]

Ada straight up mogging whatever that smol icon is

[radiant talon]

installing windows 10 sucks

[tight tinsel]

classic

[maiden geyser]

which part(s)?

[radiant talon]

the usb writing is one thing

then you have to install windows 10 to upgrade to 11

[tight tinsel]

thanks whatsapp

cant wait to speak to more ais

[stark needle]

YES

AI

MORE AI

[bright scaffold]

Hi everyone again

Oops, this is not the general chat...

[hoary lion]

welcome back to programming

[serene briar]

im gonna be making a small Ai model for my College project, can anyone tell me how is my structure looking?

/PROJECT_EXHIBITION
├── main.py                     # Main controller
├── model/
│   ├── transformer.py          # Encoder-decoder model
|   ├── vision_encoder.py       # ViT or CNN encoder for image → embedding
│   ├── tokenizer.py            # BPE tokenizer
│   ├── inference.py            # generate() + structured output
│   └── reflex_generator.py     # (Optional fallback generator)
├── voice/
│   ├── stt.py                  # Speech-to-text → tensor
│   └── tts.py                  # Text-to-speech
├── vision/
│   ├── Video.py                # Video capture + OCR or CNN
│   └── preprocess.py           # Image → tensor
├── utils/
│   ├── config.py               # JSON config loader/saver
│   ├── emotion_control.py      # Inject user/bot emotion tokens
│   ├── output_parser.py        # Parse & validate model JSON output
│   └── datasets/               # Dataset loaders, preprocessors, and splitters

[hoary lion]

we do not know what you are trying to make

[serene briar]

Just said "Small Ai model"

[hoary lion]

this is not a small ai model

this is more of a multimodal pipeline

[serene briar]

i mean it is divided into phases

[hoary lion]

...

you asked GPT right

or is it manually written

[serene briar]

Well yes, but for college project, im only gonna work on phase 1 and hopefully 2, lemme get them-

### **Phase 1: Core Chatbot**

1. Build an encoder-decoder transformer
2. Develop a custom dataset loader
3. Implement a BPE Tokenizer

   * Tokenization: words ⇄ tokens
   * Trainer for tokenizer
4. Create a training and inference script
5. Add `config.py` for model configurations

### **Phase 2: Voice Interface**

* Add speech-to-text (STT) input
* Add text-to-speech (TTS) output

[hoary lion]

well, seems like you are getting buzzword trapped

classic LLM behavior nowdays

tbh

what is the real goal here

[serene briar]

i wrote planning then asked gpt to structure it cause i was not going to deal with: -_,, etc

[hoary lion]

what does the college project ask?

like criteria and stuf

[serene briar]

it's a project exhibition, so like we can do anything

[hoary lion]

huh, then you need more of a

visual stuff, not like these backbone stuffs

you do not need to build classic transformer to make appealing stuff

i would discourage it

[serene briar]

tbh i just need to make it for credits, and i have a large project in mind, so this is for it's backbone

2 birds one stone

[hoary lion]

just use gpt api

or if you really want to go local and have good graphics card, try llamacpp

[serene briar]

it's no fun

[hoary lion]

you would not have any fun while not knowing the internal structure anyways

[serene briar]

😭

[hoary lion]

especially plain transformer, they suck and are extremely boring for non-intellectual. considering this is a free project, terrible idea

[serene briar]

i am studying CSE+Ai/Ml

so i know a bit

it's not like i know nothing and just am starting without knowing the difficulty

[hoary lion]

then why would you accept 'implement BPE tokenizer'

just tiktoken or huggingface it

anyway ima eep

rest of #programming would comment maybe

[serene briar]

For some reason , i wanna do it from scratch

[dense cosmos]

Based

[lapis wraith]

Why is that a feature? corpos don't know where to pour their money into

[thorny marsh]

hmm... wayfire isnt working either with my nixos setup

i think nixos just isnt for me lobotomy

[tight tinsel]

breaking this shit

every single text field I just spammed bwaa

[dry charm]

sometimes nixos have a hard time doing something

like I hate doing python naturally

[thorny marsh]

the thing that i hate most is that theres no errors AINTNOWAY

its just that there's genuinely no display out

[dry charm]

not even in journalctl?

[thorny marsh]

evilNopers

[dry charm]

I assume xwayland and wlroots things are enabled

https://mynixos.com/search?q=wayfire
I see a few options here that worth looking into, cause the github repo readme is not that helpful

[thorny marsh]

the worst thing is i can't drop into a tty it genuinely will not let me

[dry charm]

wtf?

are you sure the system booted actually?

[thorny marsh]

it boots thats the thing

it even shows its boot process

but as soon as it goes into a dm it just neuroExplode stops showing anything

[dry charm]

Do you have SSH enabled?

[thorny marsh]

no

i haven't attempted to set up literally anything other than the dm

[thorny marsh]

its very likely to be a driver issue at this point

and im pretty sure there's no fix

[rough bloom]

there is always a fix

[thorny marsh]

i mean there could be

but i don't have the skill as a beginner to fix it

[dry charm]

I would still look into dmesg and journalctl deeply

Don't forget to use sudo so it shows system level journal

[olive sable]

Im back from my exams

[bright scaffold]

Someone worked with the Spigot Api and Paper Api? Im about Minecraft

[bright scaffold]

How much more/less functionality does Paper have compared to Spigot?

[brisk laurel]

Chat is this real?

[tender river]

is it really about nixos when its window manager issues?

[dry charm]

I did, why

[dry charm]

It has more

Also considering PaperMC is going to drop Spigot plugin support, it is better to stay with Paper API if you plan to use PaperMC in the future

[thorny marsh]

im starting to get somewhere

[thorny marsh]

i mean, nixos is making it way harder to troubleshoot

the thing that im not getting is that i have already allowed unfree firmware neuroThink

and ive already set it up to grab amd stuff

lobotomy

[tender river]

you do have to have a fairly deep understanding of linux and often look into nixos code to see what it does. Here, for example, googling would give you this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/4238

[rough bloom]

yeah, this seems likely to be the issue, there's even someone having the issue on NixOS 25.05 specifically
the workaround was using Linux 6.14.6

[thorny marsh]

im literally on 25.05 CerberDum

[rough bloom]

you should already have Linux 6.12.33 though, which shouldn't have the issue anymore

you can check with uname -a

[thorny marsh]

6.15.2 apparently

[rough bloom]

should already be fixed in that version too

[thorny marsh]

well idunno if it were fixed my system would just work

[dry charm]

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/lockups-with-kernel-6-14-7-and-amd-gpus/64585/9

Looking up NixOS specific issues, looks like the last comment has a fix?

Also you can look at the git config someone posted, though that will rebuild the drivers

[thorny marsh]

i attempted to downgrade all the way down to 6.1 and still the same problem

as much as i hate nvidia i unironically think getting an nvidia GPU would fix all my issues LULE

[thorny marsh]

or at least replace these issues with easier to fix solutions

[dry charm]

[thorny marsh]

i mean there are many more people using nvidia so surely right

[rough bloom]

[noble zodiac]

honestly I had more problems with nvidia than amd on linux

[thorny marsh]

same

[dry charm]

I have an optimus laptop, I gave up using any feasable GPU usage

[thorny marsh]

now that ive technically tried both i can confidently say both of them are ass

[tender river]

nvidia is better nowadays than it used to be and honestly i'd go with an nvidia gpu for cuda if i had an option to choose

[rough bloom]

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/4329
new potential issue found, might need to revert the firmware
looks like AMD just broke something really badly and it already made its way into NixOS 25.05

[tender river]

(rocm works too if you take a bit of time to port code and work out some issues but my dgpu fries when i do that)

[thorny marsh]

neuroSCHIZO

right when i installed nixos hey

[rough bloom]

the ROCm 6.3.3 update PR took months

[thorny marsh]

thats such terrible timing man EvilAAAAAA

i guess ill need to somehow install nixos unstable then

[rough bloom]

it's fine, if that is actually the problem you have then it's fairly easily fixable

[rough bloom]

how would unstable help with this?

[thorny marsh]

i mean they patched it there no?

lobotomy

[rough bloom]

they did not

[thorny marsh]

oh i cant read

[gritty dust]

Good morning

[rough bloom]

@thorny marsh
you should be able to downgrade the firmware version by putting this in your config

  nixpkgs.overlays = [
    (self: super: {
      linux-firmware = super.linux-firmware.overrideAttrs (attrs: let
        version = "20250509";
      in {
        src = pkgs.fetchzip {
          url = "https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/firmware/linux-firmware-${version}.tar.xz";
          hash = "sha256-0FrhgJQyCeRCa3s0vu8UOoN0ZgVCahTQsSH0o6G6hhY=";
        };
      });
    })
  ];

-# Discord has Nix syntax highlighting

[faint sandal]

is this what nix users are up to on a daily basis

[tender river]

its just any rolling distro

nix allows you to put the fixes in your system configuration, on other distros you'd have to run some commands that you promptly forget

[rough bloom]

just the bi-annual AMD driver breakage

[faint sandal]

I'm afraid to install nix

[noble zodiac]

I tried nice three different times and always left with a resounding.... eh

[tender river]

it wont be that useful for you if you just use vanilla kde or whatever

but if you have tons of different software that has to be configured in particular ways not using something like nixos means torturing yourself

basically, if you're afraid of reinstalling, nix solves that problem

if you aren't, you probably don't really need it

though it can still be useful for dev environment setup

[rough bloom]

even for normal boring KDE desktop use, I really like the ability of NixOS to boot into old configurations
it makes it really hard to break anything badly enough to make the system unbootable

[noble zodiac]

I use plenty of software and not once have I felt "tortured" by adjusting a config file

[tender river]

mhm but you can use something like btrfs snapshots for that

[tender river]

doing it once is alright, doing it twice is annoying though

also on classic distros system configuration isnt just config files

its also what commands you run

[faint sandal]

more so I don't have any problems with my arch rn

[rough bloom]

you can, yeah
though it doesn't integrate as well with the system as a whole and is generally a much more "hacky" solution IMO

[noble zodiac]

yea, iono what you ppl are doing that you need to nuke your system and rebuild it from scratch every 2 weeks

[tender river]

in nixos, every little change is equivalent to "nuking and rebuilding" so when you actually have to do a fresh reinstall it isn't special

but its not every 2 weeks

even if you reinstall once every 2 or 3 years it can be very annoying

[rough bloom]

I just like knowing what my system configuration actually looks like
having that information means that I could reinstall any time I want to, but yeah, it's still rare (especially since it never really breaks )

[faint sandal]

you guys reinstall your Linux environments?

[tender river]

also what i personally like is that in classic distros when you install packages you can forget what you need and dont need

in nixos since every package is added in your config somewhere you can see why you added it and whether it can be removed (though it might require you to document your code at times)

and if you need something only for building a single program you dont actually have to install it system-wide

you can just run a temporary shell for building that program

[faint sandal]

idk man that just sounds like a chore

[noble zodiac]

its a lot of work for something that isnt really a big problem

[tender river]

editing a config file vs running a command is not really a big difference, if your config is stable you dont have to install packages often enough too, but when you do its just a one line change

[uneven pulsar]

Nix would be great in a world where software doesn't really change

[tender river]

basically, its not really a chore if you know what you're doing

[uneven pulsar]

you create your config once and then it's your customized little heaven anywhere

[tender river]

i mean, that's how it works for me

[uneven pulsar]

ok but go in a coma for 5 years and then try installing that on a fresh pc

[tender river]

take your customized arch install and dont update it for 5 years

your point?

[uneven pulsar]

didn't have to make a config like that for arch

your point?

[tender river]

you had to configure it

you just didnt document what you did

[rough bloom]

needed to change 3 lines to go from NixOS 24.11 to 25.05 but that was it

[tender river]

you seem to assume configuring nixos is more effort than the equivalent imperative configuration

but it's very often less effort

UNLESS you're not used to it

which, yeah, beginners aren't

[uneven pulsar]

if you know what you're doing, i assume based on your words from 5 minutes ago

[tender river]

the case of not knowing what you're doing is not worth considering

we're making tools for humans, not LLMs

[uneven pulsar]

kek

[rough bloom]

should work fine unless NixOS imploded and the official binary cache disappeared
flakes lock the version of Nixpkgs they reference, so nothing about the configuration changes even if 5 years go by

[uneven pulsar]

[tender river]

i could still install my very first nixos config if i wanted

because the binary cache stores the packages

its just not a good idea to install old package versions, but it would install

[uneven pulsar]

whipping out that fedora 7 DVD

[tender river]

dead repos

[uneven pulsar]

dvd

[tender river]

dvd sadly wont contain that many packages

[uneven pulsar]

but yeah i see the idea, it's indeed not magic just idk helm charts for desktop linux

[rough bloom]

comparing Nix to Kubernetes

[noble zodiac]

L

[uneven pulsar]

i can and i did

[dry charm]

I'm in the "i just torture myself with NixOS" and I do not have anything specific:

• You can create dev environments with .direnv and it just loads when you cd into the folder. You can have multiple python, dotnet deps that are not global but still works in different projects
• I don't forget what I have installed, if I need something quickly, I can just do nix-shell -p or ̇,` (comma) and it'll be deleted on next garbage collect
• I see what is configured and not via the nix files instead of trying to figure out which of the 50 directories the config is

Annoying parts:

• if you are not actively following changes, one day an upgrade just breaks with "no package found" or "this has been deprecated" and you spend an hour fixing your file
• you need to forget running programs randomly downloaded. You either use the ones in the nix repos, or you try with steam-run

[rough bloom]

are you perhaps using nixos-unstable

[dry charm]

It ads the extra spice in the torture

[tender river]

true, many distros just keep packages that are removed upstream

[rough bloom]

found the issue

[tender river]

but nixos doesnt

[dry charm]

it is the user

[rough bloom]

I moved from nixos-unstable to the stable channels precisely because the random breakages were annoying

[uneven pulsar]

if the user is an issue then it's bad design

[rough bloom]

I still use unstable, but only for packages where it is required

[dry charm]

but on the VERY plus side: switching desktop environments is literally single lines if you have a good config

[uneven pulsar]

harpoon the computer

[faint sandal]

does nixos solve the problem of "my kernel update failed because my desktop environment crashed mid-update and now I've rebooted and then just realized the kernel didn't install" problem

[dry charm]

gnome was broken on my laptop, switch to kde with a single import, works instantly

[tender river]

it does

[rough bloom]

yes

[tender river]

because it updates atomically

(write -> rename)

[faint sandal]

bet

[dry charm]

it does, you need to actively replace the current session to do it

[faint sandal]

because I've had that happen when I was overseas

[uneven pulsar]

oh yummy

[faint sandal]

when I was away from all my USB drives and live environment

[rough bloom]

but I thought you don't have any issues with Arch?

[tender river]

it also solves the problem of "i updated right before giving my presentation but now my system wont boot and the presentation is in 30 minutes"

[faint sandal]

that was the only main issue I think

[faint sandal]

does it solve the "I swear I tested this 10 minutes before the presentation but now the slides won't work for some reason" problem

[tender river]

i wish

[rough bloom]

it does if you package your slides as Nix derivations

[noble zodiac]

yall don't make your slides with latex?

[uneven pulsar]

give me an OS that solves "i have a presentation"

[tender river]

unemployment

[uneven pulsar]

(i am employed and haven't presented in years )

well that's not true but i had no presentation, just a markdown to not lose track

[faint sandal]

I'm still so MAD that I have to go to Berlin for a talk this September

not because I have to have a talk I love a good presentation BUT IT SACRIFICED THE CONCERT TICKET THAT I WON OF A CONCERT I WANTED TO GO

[uneven pulsar]

what concert

[faint sandal]

togetoge at budokan

it's literally on the same day as the talk

[rough bloom]

[uneven pulsar]

you can always call in a pipe rain threat

[noble zodiac]

what conference?

[dry charm]

imagine if you open the presentation with "So yeah, I'm here instead of a concert I would really wanted to go, so...2

[faint sandal]

Virus Bulletin 2025

it's a major annual event for malware researchers

no lodging/hotel/speaker/flight compensation from the event holder

and one of the speakers is expected to pay 60% of the ticket price

[tender river]

how about you force the organizers to hold the event at budokan instead

[uneven pulsar]

just call in through teams

[noble zodiac]

ugh, I'm aware of it. Not too much of a fan personally

[uneven pulsar]

do the iron mouse thing you have a model already right

[faint sandal]

that and google made a blog post similar to our topic a week or two after our embargo is lifted/topic is announced

so now the topic itself isn't that interesting anymore

great

[noble zodiac]

I always disliked academic stick in the ass corpa conferences

[faint sandal]

I usually love having talks

I think it's great I get to talk about things that might be interesting to others