programming

[amber fractal]

Please place your order or leave the drive thru que

[woeful flower]

Can i have a side of the current project roadblock?

[olive sable]

lemme get a number 9, a number 6, 1, 8, and 11
(i have no clue what those numbers are, in the mcdonalds i worked you just said what you wanted)

[amber fractal]

Yeah we can do that
-# man we are almost out of those

[opaque wharf]

My roadblock is that I have tons of documents to scour through since each manufacturer does their own thing. God why is hardware development so fucked

[woeful flower]

as long as you can promise graceful, loving, benevolent, humble, chaos🤪

Computed FN Sounds like you need a

parser

[uneven pulsar]

so do you say can i get a number 8 with extra cheese

or do you say can i get a number 8 with extra 5

[opaque wharf]

Nah, I can do it faster. Besides this is one-time thing and I am not on the programmer mindset of automating things for 3 hours for things that can be done in 1 hour

[uneven pulsar]

or do you say can i get a number 8 with extra number 5

[amber fractal]

One FAQ, new "chatter" summon, and programming mod new project. Will that be all?
-# this is from bingo

[woeful flower]

sure... Description of the desired format for parsing?

[olive sable]

could i get a dessert of embed failure?

[woeful flower]

Sure, if you can describe it in detail

[amber fractal]

right away sir :serve:

[olive sable]

thanks

[woeful flower]

more context more better

[olive sable]

we just ask for a burger or fries

we dont use numbers

[wide flicker]

Can I get an order of "how do I code an AI"?

[olive sable]

thats not an order

that is a

[amber fractal]

We do use numbers here

[olive sable]

CODEEE BLUEEEEE

[amber fractal]

That is on the menu smh,

[opaque wharf]

At this point I'm sure Sam has macro for it at hand

[amber fractal]

that's FAQ summon

[wide flicker]

Okay mb sorry one CODEEE BLUEEEEE with a side of failed api calls

[olive sable]

i feell ike ive made the meme consistently enough that code blue is the official ai helpdesk order

[opaque wharf]

We can use either

[wide flicker]

In other news I've been working on a lil python-coded discord bot and I have surprised myself with how well its working so far

[amber fractal]

I do think most people call it CODEEE BLUEEEEE

[stone cedar]

Can I get a dying GPU with memory corruption and random blackscreens on the side?

[olive sable]

no

[woeful flower]

Lily, if you want, I can offer you a code review.

[amber fractal]

"programming fast food waiter" was too long

[olive sable]

that is only sold behind the building in the ally

[wide flicker]

Oh uh sure - I haven't had time to test some of the tools I've just added though let me grab the git link

https://github.com/LilyAviarn/kinecho-main/tree/refactor-core-dev

[stone cedar]

I'll come back after hours then I guess

[wide flicker]

Im aware my code is probably horribly optimized and I apologize in advance

[woeful flower]

Incoming in dm

[opaque wharf]

I deny your apology in advance for the sheer fact that you use python

Follow Sam step and move to C++ from python

[wide flicker]

Fair, but i haven't gotten to learning C++ yet

It is on my todo list though

[opaque wharf]

Nah, I'm joking. You may attempt it in C++ but it will be a monumental effort

[wide flicker]

Hence why I haven't gotten to it LMAO

My buddy is making a similar bot in Rust though

[amber fractal]

I can not endorse back alley deals due to being on staff, but we do close at 7AM UTC

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, rust has package manager and many other QoL that didn't exists in C++

[rigid snow]

what is this rp bullshit

[wide flicker]

Im hungry I'm sorry

[amber fractal]

A joke way too far out of control

[opaque wharf]

Don't pretend like you're new here

[tender river]

discord bots in C++ is NOT a good idea

[opaque wharf]

It is. For the lolz

[tender river]

rust is alright, python and js too

[amber fractal]

Rust at least has a package for discord

[wide flicker]

yea i wouldn't know

[tender river]

when i had a discord bot i made it so i can dynamically add commands in python and js

and edit existing commands' code

[opaque wharf]

Sounds cursed ngl

[opaque sigil]

curl-powered bot

[rigid snow]

no it’s totally a great idea and you should use cpp for a bot and you should leave 100 ace vulns for me to enjoy

[tender river]

discord bot in bash

[rigid snow]

i once looked into how a web server would work in bash

[sage crag]

guess

[rigid snow]

never looking again

[sage crag]

[tender river]

um

tree sitter

[opaque wharf]

Wtf

[sage crag]

discord bot in hblang

[tender river]

right

[opaque wharf]

The word bash and web on the same sentence is already cursed as it is

[tender river]

libc
reimplementing openssl in hblang

[sage crag]

1 request at a time

[sage crag]

i really dont want to implement ssl

[opaque wharf]

Why not?

[tender river]

it sounds like a great idea though

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

It's fun reading through the RFC

[tender river]

will ableos have networking?

[sage crag]

i return references to stack memory every couple of weeks or so

[tender river]

(preliminary no matter the answer)

[sage crag]

yes, this is why i have thought about this before

wrong reply

oh well

[opaque wharf]

Shit is confusing yo

[rigid snow]

it actually will probably work great if used with something like cgi

[tender river]

after making the lsp i can make an llvm to hbvm target if you want if you dont want to reimplement openssl

[sage crag]

im going to wake up tomorrow with grey hair from all of this javascript

[tender river]

unless you wanna add ecalls for that of course

[opaque wharf]

TypeScript

[wide flicker]

javascript

[sage crag]

ableos has a pretty strict NIH policy

[opaque wharf]

People are so pre occupied with the question "can we?" without stop and think about "should we?"

[tender river]

makes sense, so its no ssl or self-roleld ssl

[opaque wharf]

Or something along those line idk

[sage crag]

i used typescript but i spent 2 hours messing with pnpm, esbuild and the vscode extension packager

it doesnt help tree sitter is a native library

[tender river]

honestly tls isnt that complex but the problem is how many different algorithms and tls versions there are

[rigid snow]

JavaScript™️ (held by Oracle Corporation)

[tender river]

and another minor problem is that its Bad if you get the maths wrong

[opaque wharf]

One
Rich
Asshole
Called
Larry
E

[sage crag]

for the beginning of networking we are going to be sending raw tcp, probably not even http

[opaque wharf]

Just support 1.2 and 1.3. The primitive are the problem

[tender river]

http is super easy i'm gonna be using pseudo-http in the lsp (json rpc)

[sage crag]

i think abol had his own able-packet (name pending) too but i forgot

[opaque wharf]

You making an extension?

[sage crag]

rewriting the hblang vscode extension to use treesitter for highlighting

[opaque sigil]

does treesitter even work

[sage crag]

atm it uses textmate grammar but its outdated

[tender river]

tcp is lowkey more complicated than tls

[sage crag]

yes

[tender river]

very good protocol but very annoying to implement

[sage crag]

we were udp-ing first for this reason

[opaque sigil]

i just know they moved the typescript grammar to treesitter or sth a while back, is it available for others too now

[opaque wharf]

I wish we moved to UDP tho. Network hardware has gotten so much reliable in the past decade or so

[tender river]

there is quic

[rigid snow]

HOLY

[sage crag]

i made my own grammar

[opaque wharf]

Yes, thats what I'm referring to

But not widely used yet

[opaque sigil]

guess there's just no real necessity for it?

outside of mobile devices

[rigid snow]

blocked entirely in my country on isp level

[tender river]

i use quic for its roaming

[sage crag]

http3 is nice

[tender river]

actually i lied

i use quic for the fact its built on top of udp

roaming is nice but i cant use it

[sage crag]

i use quic because 3 is bigger than 2

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

also its called quic which reminds me of nesquik

[olive sable]

all my homies hate nesquick

[tender river]

i think its fine from when i ate it like 10 years ago but fuck nestle

[wide flicker]

all my homies hate nestle in general ngl

[olive sable]

it tastes ok, but the company is shit

[tender river]

you should name the ableos networking protocol after nobbly bobbly

[opaque sigil]

TIL the new d3d12 vulkan driver apparently implements vkCreateDebugUtilsMessengerEXT but does not implement vkDestroyDebugUtilsMessengerEXT, interesting

[stone cedar]

d3d12 vulkan driver

[opaque sigil]

yeah, it's vulkan implemented using d3d12

[olive sable]

textures work now
the code is absolute dogshit

imma need to split this into functions

[tender river]

dont worry it will only get worse

[olive sable]

eventually ill just make a meshloader header file i guess

also, web is broken again. always fun

Init OpenGL
OpenGL initialized
GL_VERSION: OpenGL ES 3.0 (WebGL 2.0)
Image dimensions 0x0, 0 bits per pixel

seems image related

[stone cedar]

Google didn't return anything immediately relevant with "d3d12 vulkan driver".

[warped narwhal]

Dxvk exists as well

[opaque sigil]

that's the opposite right

[warped narwhal]

Yep

Mostly used on proton for linux

[opaque sigil]

https://docs.mesa3d.org/drivers/d3d12.html

[olive sable]

fixed it, but the build command is getting out of hand

emcc -O3 src/main.cpp -o output/main.html -I src -I src/include --preload-file shaders@/shaders --preload-file gfx@/gfx -s USE_SDL=2 -s USE_SDL_IMAGE=2 -s USE_SDL_TTF=2 -s MAX_WEBGL_VERSION=2 --use-preload-plugins

[wide flicker]

hey! it could be a lot more cursed! c:

[opaque wharf]

* CMake and Meson can be heard calling from the distance

[olive sable]

makefile is fine for now

[opaque wharf]

Indeed, for now

[sour harness]

Uhh...she kinda went off the rails here a bit|Well, sui, if you're looking to throw me a curveball, I've got a few ideas up my sleeve. How about I start taking a few sips of the imagination cocktail and start seeing colors as emotions? You know, blue for calm, red for passion, and so on. It might be a tad inconvenient, but it'll add a dash of zest to our little chat. What do you say?|

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

i have achieved the power of the matrices

jsut need to fix whatever the fuck is making native spasm

[tender river]

i wonder if its something to do with depth again

[olive sable]

it most likely is

[gritty dust]

Well... I need to stay up until 4-5am studying so.... idk an espresso shot and coffee

[olive sable]

i should be studying but im taking this weekend as a cheat day(s)

[amber fractal]

I think your computer is thirsty as well

[gritty dust]

lol

[primal siren]

Brother was getting old

[amber fractal]

I can hear the music help

[olive sable]

what music?

???

[bitter coral]

surely my godot art program is in a usable state and needs no extra features.(i cant really tell if this is where this post goes)

[amber fractal]

It goes here now and it is beautiful

[primal siren]

Bios updates are the most stressful, yet shouldnt, things ever

[amber fractal]

very low quality funky town is living rent free in my head

[olive sable]

ah lmao

[bitter coral]

The major things it needs is the ability to move parts of the image and an undo button. Besides that I need do add ui so I can add more layers in the program rather than in the editor.

[primal siren]

Ahhh fuc.
I need to redo my nip.
But i need my microsft password

I found it 1 shot wtf

[rigid snow]

when i do mine to calm myself down i just remember that my psu does not care about surges and that i practically have 0 outages
or you know just get a ups and don't be stressed at all

[tender river]

probably nobody who could possibly need it will see this but, roundcube up to 1.6.10 (inclusive) has an RCE please update

[primal siren]

My bios was 3 years old. Mf was good for the thrash

[amber fractal]

I am expecting when we compare turtle to turtle I just hear two copies of it in the video

[rigid snow]

lmao that's cutting edge in my books

[primal siren]

Ohhh its beautiful now

[rigid snow]

bioses very rarely get updated you know, usually only when a new component doesn't work

[amber fractal]

round cube? So one of these?

Frick you remix

[rigid snow]

a web based email client apparently

i like my email clients standalone

[tender river]

its used by many orgs since nobody uses proper email clients

[olive sable]

round cube is like saying float int = 1f;

[tender river]

you could at least make some round-ish 4d shape where one section of it is a 3d cube would that count

[olive sable]

i guess

[amber fractal]

Round(ish) ✅
Cube ✅
looks like roundcube to me

[nocturne olive]

Replace it with the latest NeuroSynth cover

[tender river]

this reminds me of this russian folk poem:
a brick is floating down the river
wooden as glass
let it float, we don't need styrofoam

[primal siren]

Bios yeah everithing is good
Task manager: yup its on

Command window: FALSE

Me: 😑

[tender river]

at some point i realized this could technically be interpreted as just a brick of styrofoam since it's indeed as wooden as glass

which was probably not the original author's intentions

[nocturne olive]

What are you trying to do?

[primal siren]

Vtx / vtd

[nocturne olive]

Well, I'm not sure what that stuff is

[primal siren]

Chatgpt: so it can happen if Memory integrity is enabled.

Me: youre not truly asking me to deactive it right?!?

[olive sable]

i have fixed the depthbuffer issues

apparently

native really fuckign hates it if i do glDepthMask(false);

so im just not calling that now

[primal siren]

I did it it actually worked lol

[olive sable]

idk why that was false even, but what bothers me more is that webgl just completly ignored this

[hoary lion]

bwaaa

gigachad osage

[gritty dust]

lol freebird, but looking good

[olive sable]

i have freebird still downloaded from whrn i did the exact same thing 2 years ago

wait

[gritty dust]

[olive sable]

mods i got it legally of the cd i bought

[gritty dust]

lol

[olive sable]

previously, in python

i had figured out object loading by then, but im not wasting my time with .obj this time and im going straight to gltf

[primal siren]

Should i deactivate my intel uhd graphic 770
And only keep the rtx 3070 ti on?

[olive sable]

i wouldnt exactly deactivate it

keep it on but just use your 3070ti

just make sure your monitor is connected to the correct port

aight im going to bed

gn

[primal siren]

Gn

[nocturne olive]

I use mine so I have more VRAM available for training on my main GPU

[gritty dust]

Omg

peak

[warped narwhal]

God, brainfuck is so inefficient.

To read a string into memory (until a newline is read)

You can use this code:

+>>>->>--<<<<<[,[->+>+<<]>----------[[-]<+>>[+[-->++]--<++[-<+]-<]++[-->++]>-[-<+]-<<]<]>>>>[.>]

To read "Hello, World!" It takes 115,988 iterations.

To read 100 characters, it takes 5.3 million iterations

[tender river]

its efficient if you write a fast evaluator!

[warped narwhal]

34ms to read the 100 chars on my phone using copy.sh

[rigid snow]

a dealbreaker for sure, i was going to use it for my AI startup’s backend but now i think i’m going to use Rust because it’s blazingly fast™️ and memory safe™️. but i also heard C is faster so might force our underpaid junior JS engineers to use that instead

[tender river]

they will do just fine, they can use LLMs for writing C!

[rigid snow]

oh my fucking god this is a true story

my friends coworker writes python, pastes it into chatgpt and it spits out java

which the guy then proceeds to paste into the codebase

[tender river]

i support them, i wouldnt want to write java either

[tiny mango]

at prev company some startup pitched a "custom LLM" to make all of our C code into Java

C code specifically for its space and time efficiency in otherwise really shit and small hardware

they didn't seem to catch why this wasn't a good idea

[rigid snow]

just say embedded

they'll understand

if they're not stupid

[tiny mango]

They def knew who they were pitching to so it's the latter

you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink//you can make a gpt wrapper but you can't make it sell

[olive sable]

im mr popular
i cant sleep due to all the pings tho

i have to get up in 3

[gritty dust]

you are kekw

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

There's this revolutionary technology that's going to blow your mind, it's called the do not disturb mode

[gritty dust]

I still get pings with it on my pc lolll

[olive sable]

you have a piont, but im basking in the glory

[gritty dust]

haha omg

guys can we vote vedal to sign my yearbook

👉 👈

[loud thicket]

No

[amber fractal]

[tight tinsel]

coding food waiter?

what does that mean

[faint sandal]

me when I'm at a restaurant

[amber fractal]

When staff takes forever so I just code their replacements right in front of them

[primal siren]

one day i shall put xtts in stream

one day

oh ... no errors now

;-;

[dense cosmos]

  //data->rot_lock = RNA_boolean_get(op->ptr, "lock_rotation");
  data->rot_lock = false;
 // data->rotz_lock = RNA_boolean_get(op->ptr, "lock_rotation_z");
  data->rotz_lock = false;```

finally

figured out how to allow rotation

but ideally, I can change it through... however RNA_boolean_get works

  /* Properties. */
  RNA_def_boolean(
      ot->srna, "lock_location", false, "Lock Location", "Prevent changes to viewer location");
  RNA_def_boolean(
      ot->srna, "lock_location_z", false, "Lock Elevation", "Prevent changes to viewer elevation");
  RNA_def_boolean(
      ot->srna, "lock_rotation", false, "Lock Rotation", "Prevent changes to viewer rotation");
  RNA_def_boolean(ot->srna,
                  "lock_rotation_z",
                  false,
                  "Lock Up Orientation",
                  "Prevent changes to viewer up orientation");
  RNA_def_boolean(ot->srna, "lock_scale", false, "Lock Scale", "Prevent changes to viewer scale");``` they are being set to false by default though

am just going to use an assert to see who's setting it lol

the answer is no-one

unless they're setting through a different function

[primal siren]

I think chat gpt is stuck in a loop ;-;

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

[gritty dust]

Good morning

[olive sable]

[scarlet arch]

Good morning #programming. Am back after 3 weeks of vacation and only had 4 hours of sleep

[gritty dust]

ellooo

[ruby timber]

Good morning chat

[uneven pulsar]

just realised my java doom mini project

on github

[uneven pulsar]

hey i have a question

what language are they rn teaching you

[uneven pulsar]

during the vacation?

[scarlet arch]

no, my sleep cylce got fucked over those 3 weeks. I woke up at like 13 to 15 on a normal day. and now back to work, getting up at 9, so I didn't have a lot of sleep haha

[wide flicker]

Im the reverse funnily enough, I haven't gotten much sleep this vacation because my body is used to waking up at 15 and going to sleep at 4 and I've been made to get up at about 9 or 10 on average

[stark needle]

Morning

[ruby timber]

Hi Shad

[tight tinsel]

no daily name change?

[opaque wharf]

Vedal moment

[mossy fossil]

Average ReactOS Moment

[opaque wharf]

This is the first time I see someone actually use ReactOS in the wild

[rigid snow]

react os? did they write a js kernel?

[uneven pulsar]

[uneven pulsar]

you use such a old computer

is it running linux

[rigid snow]

i think it's runnung reactos

[uneven pulsar]

node js cmd?

[trim valve]

yet another exam finished 50m early

either I am really stupid or doing ok

[rigid snow]

the opensource windows nt reimplementation, nothing to do with js

[opaque wharf]

https://www.os-js.org/

[mossy fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj7JX-LkOrA&pp=ygUHcmVhY3Rvcw%3D%3D

for the uninitiated.

[lapis wraith]

Finally, got some very basic neuro sdk actions going onto this. (Was somewhat complicated to organize for me )

[tight tinsel]

shapez 1

I loved that game when I was young

[stark needle]

i like the nickname shad

shad

[tight tinsel]

fish for yumming

big fish for yumming

[rough bloom]

shadcn

[tight tinsel]

shadllc

[stark needle]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-wake-up-anime-girl-tired-maki-nishikino-gif-2920063016364044935

[safe path]

i saw this project a while back, its actually quite cool

in theory the project can shed some more light on how windows is wired internally, which maybe can be ported to WINE to run even more windows stuff

i dream of the day i can run office 365 without relying on a commercialised WINE fork

[tender river]

reactos can notably be used for running windows drivers

unlike wine

[safe path]

so cool

[tender river]

and they do collaborate with wine a lot

[stark needle]

if i make a company i will call it shad llc

[ruby timber]

I didn't know that was even possible with any version of wine

[tender river]

sim cards' contacts are so confusiiiiiiiiing

i think there are 3 contact, 4 contact, 5 contact layouts, and the readers support some of them being absent (so you can plug a 3 contact sim in a 5 contact reader)

thats why i hate sim schematics they all just show the same contact layouts

WHY IS THERE SO MANY

this isnt even full coverage i think

[lapis wraith]

Companies not standarizing sim card connections

[tender river]

sim card makers just putting the contacts wherever as long as the reader pins match up

[tender river]

they're missing this layout

also

the schematic above is wrong as well

because these arent actually the same size

the sim contacts pads are of DIFFERENT SIZES

HOW IS THIS OK

[inner pike]

one is sim and one is micro sim, no ?

sim*

[tender river]

they are literally the same size on the picture

[inner pike]

OH

thats what you meant

yeah thats stupid

[stone flint]

What are you doing (or planning/trying to do) that you are looking at sim card contact pads?

[tender river]

i needed to use a nano sim as a micro sim without an adapter

so i had to figure out that i need to put it in in a way that it touches the 3 out of 4 contacts

[stone flint]

[dense cosmos]

there's a whole ControllerModel class that never ended up being used?

how do I make use of this

the control flow is daunting

even doing something as simple as the ability to select things seems really difficult

[lapis wraith]

open XR on c++ Last time i tried to do something with windows api's i ended up exploding

[dense cosmos]

thankfully I don't have to deal with openXR part

-# i think

I'm pretty sure that part's been done

y do they use arrays like this: mat[][] instead of using a math library

[lapis wraith]

double dimensional arrays

[faint sandal]

damn google you really got me there

i'm not UK but JP

[safe path]

wtf

TIL changing font sizes on treemacs breaks it on the TUI but not the GUI

broken aah package

[tender river]

google moved me from russia to germany relatively recently

[noble zodiac]

emacs configs breaking? I've never heard of such a thing before!

[tender river]

behold

my new invention

❌

[scarlet arch]

[dry charm]

Has anyone here have experience deploying browser kiosk machines?
Specifically low powered devices running kiosk mode browsers

[opaque wharf]

First time?

[opaque wharf]

How low power?

[dry charm]

2-5W

[opaque wharf]

And the target resolution?

[dry charm]

1080p

its a Pi Zero 2W

but running Chromium on FullPageOS instantly eats the ram and swap

[tender river]

i have experience breaking out of one

[opaque wharf]

Bad choice man. Its better to go x86 honestly. Any mini PC usually consume less than 10W when idle. I think some NUC model indeed go as low as 5W. But if you already stuck on Pi Zero 2W then try to make the site slimmer

[tender river]

???? arm is good

for browser usage its perfect

[rough bloom]

VNC to a machine that is actually capable of opening a webpage

[dry charm]

it is going to display a single website, although unfortunetly it is an angular site

[tender river]

if you want something stronger than a pi zero it makes more sense to go for a different arm board than x86

[dry charm]

but it is a full minimum

we already have 3 PIs so it's not an option to switch

[opaque wharf]

So the thing is, the RAM is very limiting part

[tender river]

thats not anything to do with cpu architecture

and for web browsing, sure you need like 512mb at least

[dry charm]

Also buying multiple x86 minipc is overkill for price/target usage

[maiden geyser]

not like there's more than normal raspberry pi 5, orange pi and then ampere altra

[opaque wharf]

I know, but most low power device like pi usually have small memory for their price

[tender river]

x86 is literally useless outside of legacy apps

[tender river]

the future is now, there are 32gb ram sbcs

[dry charm]

yeah, by x86 I meant AMD64

[opaque wharf]

But how many watts?

[dry charm]

or whatever 64bit systems are called nowadays lol

[tender river]

doesnt matter still gonna be more efficient than a nuc...

[maiden geyser]

x86_64

[opaque wharf]

Uhh, you sure?

[dry charm]

Quick judgment tells me ditching Angular would be step -1

Step 0 is Firefox

[opaque wharf]

No, apparently the pi zero is not enough you see. It has 512MB of ram

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[tender river]

i said at least

and 512mb is at least 512mb

[opaque wharf]

Raw HTML is best

[dry charm]

I hoped I could avoid doing plain HTML+JS but that is shattered now

[rough bloom]

I was mostly joking, but unless you want to beef up the hardware or fix the webpage this is seeming more and more realistic

[dry charm]

also will be very fun implementing the websocker / parameterisation from 0

[tender river]

you can try ssr

[dry charm]

I have 0 clue how SSR works

[opaque wharf]

I forgot fullpageos architecture. Let me re read up on it

[tender river]

anyway chrome is pretty fast too im not sure firefox is gonna be more efficient

[opaque wharf]

SSG, SSR would just add more performance hit

[tender river]

ssr wont hit the performance lol

[opaque wharf]

Depends on the language used I guess

[tender river]

it simply builds the dom on the server

so the client doesnt have to do that

how is that gonna hurt client performance

[dry charm]

from what I identified under 30 seconds. SSG and SSR would only change server impact

SSG is build time, SSR is runtime generation no?

[tender river]

yes

[opaque wharf]

SSG you can perform the generation one time

[dry charm]

I do not know if I can do SSG and CSR at the same time

cause the rest of the app needs to stay CSR

[tender river]

this means the client code doesnt have to run as much js

it can still run some js

[dry charm]

well it needs to for my usecase

but less JS would be waaay better

[tender river]

it all depends on the frameworks you're using (some don't support ssr)

[dry charm]

especially running the whole hidration

Angular

[tender river]

thats exactly the problem ssr is designed to solve

reinventing php

[noble zodiac]

ssr is great

[tender river]

angular actually supports angular i think

[dry charm]

love you ideae

[tender river]

it may require some changes but shoul be doable

[tender river]

brain

[dry charm]

yeah I see some changes that can be made

[dry charm]

https://tenor.com/view/words-of-wisdom-ferrari-f1-charles-leclerc-australia-gif-8228818569000901243

Thanks for tip for SSR

Will check if this actually helps the memory problem

it literally will display like 6 tiles with rows

it's a price display that needs live updates

[noble zodiac]

then why is it angular to begin with?

[dry charm]

Cause there is already a whole monolith app around it

and that is the frontend

[noble zodiac]

rip

[tender river]

depends on how little js you will be left with, you can run something lighter like netsurf

[noble zodiac]

doing crazy css tricks to avoid javascript at all costs

[opaque wharf]

I still think its better to just write raw js if there is not much page to show

[dense cosmos]

template<typename T> inline T cos(const T &a)
{
  return std::cos(a);
}

template<typename T> inline T sin(const T &a)
{
  return std::sin(a);
}

template<typename T> inline T tan(const T &a)
{
  return std::tan(a);
}``` looking at blender's math stuff, these are just wrappers? Odd

[dry charm]

I'll keep this in mind, but it would be kind of painful implementing live updates

[uneven pulsar]

this took me time

working with game engines isnt easy

[dry charm]

I'll look for alternate browsers as well if it comes down to it

I guess a final final solution would the VNC one

[opaque wharf]

Also, try to minimize running process if possible. I see there is vnc installed, if you could do via ssh just disable that

[dry charm]

The main problem was the RAM

CPU was not utilized at all

also cannot create a SWAP or i'll kill the sdcard under a wekk

[rough bloom]

new idea
have a central server with the web page open
parse the price information from it and send that to the clients

[opaque wharf]

Yes, and that's why minimizing the running process is the priority. Any process will consume some amount of ram

[dry charm]

That is the goal yes.
The data is ours so we just send them through websocket + initial large query

[opaque wharf]

Ideally the pi only has to run 2 process, browser and ssh if needed

[rough bloom]

you can get SLC/pSLC sd cards that have much better write endurance, but expensive

[tender river]

also dhcpcd, systemd, window manager, various kernel-owned daemons, networkmanager or iwd or at least wpa_supplicant if using wifi

but yes not that much overall

[dense cosmos]

bruh

[tender river]

welcome to C

[dense cosmos]

i was really hoping for some kind of vector struct or something

[tender river]

theres no way to parametrize it

[opaque wharf]

Yes, as stated before, if not needed don't run it

[tender river]

well, there are ways of parametrizing it in C++ with templates probably

[opaque wharf]

The ideal scenario is just that 2 process

[dense cosmos]

Oh! they have a .hh file for the same

[rough bloom]

macros

[dry charm]

sadly all of them are needed, atleast those listed

[shadow sinew]

Ages ago I was working with an Objective-C codebase that used macros to stitch together vector operations like this. The macros created function definitions by stitching together parameterized names so when you then searched for the function name you didn't find any definition in your source.
It wasn't nice.

[dry charm]

No RJ45, so networkManager + wpasupplicant is needed

[dense cosmos]

i do not like reading macros ngl

doesn't seem like syntax highlighting works properly with it either

[rough bloom]

at least this one has nice formatting and isn't code golfed into the line width limit

[tender river]

mods, get shuni

[shadow sinew]

I support the mods' stance against the C++ auto keyword.

[dense cosmos]

I don't use auto very much, but what's wrong with it

[tender river]

auto is the only thing that makes iterators usable

[opaque wharf]

Yep. After slimming down running process, then the next target is the web page. If you use SSR but needing to update the page after the fact anyways, you will still run some client side js. My suggestion will depend on how many updated UI element

[opaque sigil]

and lambdas

[tender river]

i dont use lambdas that much

only for sorting

[opaque wharf]

Because you can make skeleton loader using css, so it cost no js to do. Then you fetch the required data and replace the skeleton loader without changing too many dom node

[noble zodiac]

everything STL even breathes on gets auto

[dense cosmos]

wdym you don't like cpp const std::chrono::time_point<std::chrono::system_clock> now = std::chrono::system_clock::now();

[noble zodiac]

try to iterate over a vector of optional pairs or some shit

I aint typing all that

[tender river]

in competitive programming i alias auto to A

[noble zodiac]

btw, I can offer you another cursed solution I had to do once for a really restricted environment

[dense cosmos]

[noble zodiac]

Do everything on the server side and use ffmpeg to create a 0.1 fps stream to the kiosk and just display it with ffmpeg there

[tender river]

if its read only you can alternatively make some quick ui in qt or gtk or whatever

[dense cosmos]

how do people navigate these thousands of lines long files

without scrolling forevvvver

[tender river]

use search

in vim its just / or ?

[opaque wharf]

Nono, the kiosk will send the touch coordinate to the server of course

Oh, wrong reply

[tender river]

and then n/N to cycle

[shadow sinew]

Found it:
https://gitlab.com/art-development-team/ART/-/blob/master/Source/Foundation/Math/Cx_InterfaceMacros.h?ref_type=heads

[dense cosmos]

thought of that myself, but I don't know the names of stuff good enough for that

[tender river]

also in some languages there are code regions that serve no purpose other to semantically delimit pieces of code for easy collapsing

[dense cosmos]

are you talking about #pragma region

[opaque sigil]

no, just no

[trim valve]

new gpu pogs

cc @rough bloom

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

Gltf

[shadow sinew]

9070 XT Reaper? I was kinda looking into that one myself.

[trim valve]

ye

[olive sable]

Astro v

[dense cosmos]

i made the mistake of pulling from the main repo chat

now i have to rebuild blender again

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-cost-little-maneuver-51years-51-gif-24426899

how did they edit so much in two days!?

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Its a good sign

[dense cosmos]

True

No one's working on the xr stuff tho

Or so I've heard

[opaque wharf]

Be the changes you want to see in the world

[gritty dust]

Morning

[olive sable]

Thats the vr stuff right?

Openxr would be cool to implement in the game engine

[gritty dust]

what's openxr?

[dense cosmos]

yeah, it is

[dense cosmos]

standard for vr/ar

[olive sable]

Vr stuff

[dense cosmos]

like how you should handle inputs

or other stuff

I only know about the inputs

[gritty dust]

[opaque wharf]

Throwback to that one dude chatting from VR in broken english

Using STT

[dense cosmos]

blender sure needs a lot of libraries huh

[opaque sigil]

are you compiling in debug mode

[dense cosmos]

ya

[dry charm]

wtf, airbnb created this lib https://airbnb.io/lottie/#/README

[opaque sigil]

checks out then ig

[dry charm]

i was like "why is Airbnb in a workout apk"

[olive sable]

My mobile data died

[trim valve]

wow 4:4:4 is so much more readable for remote desktop

[olive sable]

My phone sometimes just spontaniouslt kills the 4g to the point i have to restart

[dense cosmos]

restarting my phone takes like 30 mins

[trim valve]

(for context new gpu is strong enough to do 4:4:4 encoding whereas my old one literally cried the whole time)

[dense cosmos]

i dont do it often

[olive sable]

Its like 4 min at most for me

[dense cosmos]

nice

[trim valve]

and like I can live with a little bit of background gpu usage when I'm remot desktoped in

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

anyways I should revise for tomorrow's exam instead of marvelling at what happens when you spend money

[dry charm]

what the fuck is going in here

[trim valve]

I was gonna say weird backdoor but that looks like the same return value so ???

[dry charm]

i love that everything has AI now

[frozen igloo]

Poor cat

[trim valve]

[rough bloom]

beeg laser diode

[trim valve]

how much power even is 2.8MW for a lazer

[rough bloom]

a lot

an insane amount

[trim valve]

thank you wolfram:alpha

[rough bloom]

pretty sure that Megawatt-tier lasers are mostly used to start fusion reactors or something

usually you want milliwatts

[shadow sinew]

Even 2.8 mW would be a bit much for a cat toy..

[trim valve]

ok this one was apparently 250W

so like

a few of those

[rough bloom]

it is also not a single diode

that already uses an array of diodes

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

I HATE JAVASCRIPT
-# and to a lesser extent typescript

[trim valve]

rude

[sage crag]

2 days until all vscode plugins explode

[trim valve]

[opaque wharf]

A FEW? 250W is 0.25 KW, like 4 orders of magnitude off

[frozen igloo]

If the cat is 4kg of water then it would take 3.2 seconds to vaporize it assuming perfect energy absorption

I think

[trim valve]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[tender river]

you're not allowed near cats

[warped narwhal]

Why are all vscode plugins about to explode?

[sage crag]

me

[trim valve]

konii is going to change vscode's plugin system to be in hblang

[dry charm]

[trim valve]

hm screensender sounds friendly

[dry charm]

oh I think these are just simple built in screencast stuff

[jagged rock]

i just realize that llm is nth but all maths

[trim valve]

is uvr supposed to max out my vram and run really slowly

(it didn't do this on my 1660 so I'm guessing something is broken)

[tiny mango]

who's they

workplace doesn't teach me anything, most of what I know is from classes I took or personal projects/self-taught (as a lot of programming is tbh)

[rough bloom]

oh yeah, you're part of ROCm gang now
welcome

[trim valve]

[tiny mango]

I was (and am) in a weird spot in college bc I didn't want to pigeonhole myself in a certain stack, so I have foundations touching typical web dev stacks (js/html/css/node), java/python for algorithmic stuff, and c-family languages for more low-level work

I learned go on the side as well because I love channels and queues

[dry charm]

its not even that cooked

what is even happening

why is it instantly using the swap instead of the normal memory ???

[tiny mango]

download more wam

cat ..sys/vm/swappiness set to small

[tender river]

if the kernel recognizes some pages are unused it may swap them to keep space for e.g. speculatively preloading files into ram

note that available and free ram isnt the same

free is ram that isnt being used at all, available is memory that is either free or used for caching stuff and can be freed if necessary

[dry charm]

ah I forgot about that, yeah

[cosmic sphinx]

its finally available again

[knotty current]

sheesh arch linux updates, thought my desktop is broken for a moment

[opaque wharf]

Ayy, wrong thread sorry

[dry charm]

poor chromium is switching between two states

requestAnimationFrame is taking like 10 seconds

kworker/2:1H: page allocation failure: order:0, mode:0x40800(GFP_NOWAIT|__GFP_COMP), nodemask=(null),cpuset=/,mems_allowed=0

[olive sable]

in a month and 6 days i will be promoted from unemployed to professionally unemployed

[hard shale]

seems about right

[opaque wharf]

You can set raspi to not use SD Card at all IIRC

[tender river]

you can try some of the browsers from here https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Category:Web_browser

[hard shale]

qutebrowser

[opaque wharf]

If you want to maximize the SD card lifetime you can try to use zswap instead and make the FS read-only or only to store crash log

[dry charm]

I plan on 100% enabling the SD card to be read only

I do not even plan on storing crash logs tbh

I see no point doing so

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, then change the swap to use zswap. Swap can still be useful

[uneven pulsar]

chat

do you feel a strange allure to use light themes when focused on learning?

like normally i have dark theme everywhere i can but when i want to learn a new tech or practice some skill or w/e i feel this urge to switch to light theme

[noble zodiac]

light mode is better for readability while dark mode is better for eye strain if you live like a gremlin

[uneven pulsar]

to me there's this specific association between learning and a light base

most likely books and how light theme is the default in school / work scenarios whereas at home i customize it to the depths of darkness

but even neuro and evil match this vibe check

[opaque wharf]

I use light mode when reading document that is meant to be printed because the document writer usually designed it with white background as default in mind

[maiden geyser]

gnome has fallen, hundreds must use KDE

[uneven pulsar]

return to monke, return to dwm

or ascend into plan9 from outer space and use acme? rio? forgot which one it was

[warped narwhal]

The good one or the windows one?

[uneven pulsar]

the statically linked one where config is in the source code as literals

[warped narwhal]

Ah, the good one

[uneven pulsar]

i am not disappointed in #programming today

[rigid snow]

uuh does anyone know what's the best workaround to fix webgl canvas flickering on resize

there doesn't seem to be "a solution"

wait does it even happen in the first place or is it because i'm capping the fps

of course it is

ok i fixed it by setting a rerenderDue variable and not skipping frames when it's true

the rubber ducky method at display folks

well now the fps increases when resizing but i decided i don't care

[trim valve]

why does this website think I don't have webgl2

did I break something changing out my gpu

[nocturne olive]

What model kind is that meant to be?

So it's meant to be a TTS?

Well, something is wrong with either your trainer or the data

What is it meant to be then?

SVS?

Kinda what I expected, I wouldn't call that even close to usable

So singing voice synthesis or?

[rare bramble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093753884738068530/1155564184210247691/listening.gif

v4 singing voice

[nocturne olive]

I have a bit of experience with SVS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1HNHqSdGW4

[nocturne olive]

This is the third BETA version of NeuroSynth

BETA because it's using entirely synthetic data rather than organic data

[rare bramble]

btw how long have you been working on the synth?

[nocturne olive]

The project started some time during the making of Machine love, Machine love has a couple segments with NeuroSynth-BETA-1

Silly

I just make the best unofficial variants of Neuro voices, nothing that big

NeuroSynth is designed to be the next big thing in Neuro voice cloning, being designed to make high quality Neuro covers way more accessible to everyone

[rigid snow]

what does making a voice from scratch mean, like, a voice that isn't based off someone's? you guess you probably can rlhf one from a large model

[nocturne olive]

Well, who really knows

[rigid snow]

though that'd probably take a very very long time

[rigid snow]

if it is that i propose an alternative to "from scratch": mix public rvc voices until satisfied, then generate a bunch of synthetic data with it

oh you mean train

well how can the model know what you want if even you don't

or am i misunderstanding

pitch and formant shifting then

[trim valve]

turns out that despite games running well I might've been missing drivers om

[rigid snow]

are you confirming that's what you did to your voice, i don't understand

you "made" it by pitch shifting and formant shifting your voice

right

[nocturne olive]

That doesn't sound like good data

I would throw that out as unusable

[rigid snow]

also do audio upscaling models exist

[rigid snow]

genuine question i just don't know

trust me i know you didn't

[opaque wharf]

Please AI, do take over this task for me

[warped narwhal]

I don't know about AI models, but I can almost guarantee that there are static programs that can do it

[rigid snow]

well yes but high frequency data is straight up lost when you reduce the sampling rate - the same way details on pictures get lost when reducing the resolution

it's just that it sounds like it's through a bad mic

[ivory tiger]

I just got layed off

[uneven pulsar]

i know that feel bro

i am also in the soft-firing pit rn

brushing off interview skills as we speak

feels like a futile struggle in a way

[primal siren]

Did anyone find a way to patch the attenttion mask?

[lapis verge]

im sorry soldier times are shit rn

[ivory tiger]

Man

This place was good too

[sour lotus]

Urgh sucks to hear, one big tip which helped me nail my resume send ins was taking the job post and then asking gpt to write a intro which take my skills to say why im perfect, I had 2 interviewers mention "Your cv and skills fit our needs perfectly" etc etc. All of the best ❤️

Also advanced google search queries also helped 😄

[ivory tiger]

Thank you

[tender river]

never managed to get off freelance because i never even reached interview stage

[ivory tiger]

Ye ats system is screwed nowadays My bro also struggling

[hoary lion]

😭

[lapis verge]

yeah i recently graduated with a math degree and it's been like a month and i haven't gotten shit

hopefully you can find a good job bro

[ivory tiger]

I was unemployed for 8 months it was terrible

Thank god this time I have my savings

[ivory tiger]

Focus on showing specific skills. Last time I was working on a side project that matched this new project

But this project was cooked I learnt alot on how to not build something from scratch

Atleast I have some experience now

[lapis verge]

yeah i am going to brush up my excel skills and create a project with data visualization for sales companies and shit like that

maybe some accounting bs

[ivory tiger]

Man I was trying not to cry in the office. But now I want to cry but I can't 💀

[sour lotus]

sooooo you could try this? Paste it in Google
site:.com (inurl:job | inurl:jobs | inurl:careers | inurl:vacancies) -senior ("freelance" OR "intern" OR "junior") intext:math

Unless im speaking to people who already know this stuff 😅

[ivory tiger]

I don't

This will be helpful

[lapis verge]

thank you, I actually might benefit for this

[sour lotus]

Try it, change site to the country extensions you want and the with intext:(your skillset)

Awesome glad it helps

just "-" anything you want filtered out, you can make a pretty long list of exlcusions

[lapis verge]

yeah y'know I forgot about google searching syntax stuff

but yeah this should probably help narrowing my job search

[sour lotus]

Im an SEO, this is my snooze fest every day

[lapis verge]

yeah, I probably need to get into SEO because im also working on an AI project too

[raw quartz]

What AI model should i use with an 12 gb vram?

[hoary lion]

gemma

3

small one

quantized

go for QAT

[opaque sigil]

run deepseek r1 in system memory

[sour lotus]

Happy to answer any questions 🙂 For now if you need something to dig into = n8n,lovable, V0 skills are high in demand to create automation workflows and agents etc, our company is heavily investing in it, im sure its not the only one @lapis verge Use dont use it ^^

[raw quartz]

I tried to use the "microsoft/Phi-3.5-mini-instruct" but im too stupid to start it

[hoary lion]

phi?

what is your primary purpose of llms

[tender river]

phi is pretty good if your goal isnt creative writing

[raw quartz]

That is a really good question. I try to figuer things out without looking with good for me.

I try to do a chatbot with own personality and
opinions

[hoary lion]

yeah, then better go for gemma

writes quite well, in many languages

or qwen 3 8b, that is also quite solid

there is new distilled r1 0528 qwen 3 8b too

[raw quartz]

okay, is there a guide with out you setup a ai? I mean i tried it with help from Gemini, Chatgpt and clauda but now nothing is more working and i want to understand now what the everthing is. So i understanded it befor a bit bc i know a little python but thats it.

[lapis verge]

ollama is possibly your best bet

[raw quartz]

at the beginning i used mistral 7b. But after a lot of fine tuning it wont start anymore.

[hoary lion]

??

are you asking a inference tool, or a training tool?

[raw quartz]

idk like everthing?

[hoary lion]

you cant have everything, they are two different things

[raw quartz]

I want to understand everthing. so i know how a tokenizer works but thats it.

[hoary lion]

I will suggest setting up llamacpp, to run gguf models

okay, yk, I think this would be a good time to summon @amber fractal

add the bingo rn

[raw quartz]

is there a guide that explains all words? Do you have some discord or something? I mean. I started doing an AI with blindfolds on you could say.

[amber fractal]

[raw quartz]

Just using AI to build an AI

[hoary lion]

I see, probably you are asking for glossary

[raw quartz]

What means now glossary?

Sry for being that stupid.

[hoary lion]

an alphabetical list of terms or words found in or relating to a specific subject, text, or dialect, with explanations; a brief dictionary.

[trim jungle]

If it's for beginning inference and training wouldn't ollama be a good pick?

[hoary lion]

😠

we hate ollama chat

we only have our goated llamacpp, thats all

[trim jungle]

Is it that bad?

I've never used it but I see it on every tutorial every now and then

[raw quartz]

I think so then idk

[trim jungle]

What's llamacpp?

[uneven pulsar]

chat i have an even better question
i don't want to write or train an AI, i want to become one. what do

[hoary lion]

it is more of a morale stuff. Not only they did not credit llamacpp, the inference engine of ollama, but they also messed up deepseek-r1 stuff

messing up the distil as the real few hundred billion behemoth, just for 'numbers'

[raw quartz]

Guys do you have now a guide? Or i have to come back tomorrow. Its 10pm now and i have school tomorrow.

[hoary lion]

not quite, there is no 'bible' like textbook in AI

[primal siren]

I think i did it?

[hoary lion]

takes some time 😦

[trim jungle]

Oh, didn't knew

Ye

If you want to KNOW know, it's really complicated

[raw quartz]

Then i have to learn it by hand. Im ready for everthing. Idk why but when its with AI i have so many complex ideas that i want to do

[uneven pulsar]

things you wanna do it for, or?

[raw quartz]

With ai you can let your creativity free.

[trim jungle]

Machine learning and deep learning is just a bunch of peeps saying this works until another solution is better

[raw quartz]

To entertain people.

[trim jungle]

Its vibe coding at its best

[raw quartz]

friends etc.

[amber fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1382752833094422700/cqvswdl.png?ex=6851926d&is=685040ed&hm=88212e4756f2b3497d2181b20f236093bebd2edcd4ae7a11ae7f5f619d58ae94&

[trim jungle]

Grok could be really fun

[hoary lion]

we also hate grok in #programming

[raw quartz]

Grok is an ai model?

[hoary lion]

api

[trim jungle]

Also?

Damn

[hoary lion]

it wont teach you

you just use it to make apps

[trim jungle]

Oh, yeah

[hoary lion]

go learn numpy or jax

[raw quartz]

Are 400 structers for ai finetuning good?

[hoary lion]

pretty much the same so hurt your brain with numpy

[opaque sigil]

@grok is this true

[trim jungle]

But if he's beginning and doesn't know yet about machine learning they could start with APIs tbf

[hoary lion]

yes this is true

[uneven pulsar]

dream your dreams, little one
they fade over the years

[amber fractal]

One of these days, I will make this a bot so that everyone can properly summon it

[raw quartz]

And what tools do you use guys to make more inctructions and outputs? Do you write everthing by hand?

[hoary lion]

nah pinging you for this is much funnier

[hoary lion]

scrape anthropic's prompting guide -> add that to claude -> give ideas -> generate -> manual refinement

[trim jungle]

Well, you could use ai to make the prompts for fine tuning

[amber fractal]

I'm not about to deny that, but I have to backread chat to get the current board

[trim jungle]

Claude my goat 🐐

The only reason I still use vscode

[uneven pulsar]

also based gigi tag

[trim jungle]

Thanks!

[raw quartz]

OMG, i will copy this and remember it for later. I knew you wouldnt be that bored and write 400 structurs.

[hoary lion]

I have to say this chat

[trim jungle]

Afterwards you can fine tune it by training with your favorite outputs. If you plan to make a long running "character" model you should look into a way to save your outputs

[hoary lion]

if you don't feel like committing suicide when you learn something, that means you are NOT learning it

or you have blessed brain with 0 learning curve

[trim jungle]

[hoary lion]

start with 3b1b if you want to learn LLMs basic and get the grasp of what the fuck #programming is yapping about

https://youtu.be/LPZh9BOjkQs?si=O_9At_D7H1AjcV5D

[raw quartz]

I want to do a very creative one. I mean i try to get that creativity like Neuro but a very diffrent personality. Like Neuro is a very good inspiration.

[opaque sigil]

idk but i have a suspicion that should not be happening

[trim jungle]

To make an ai by scratch you must first invent the perceptron

[uneven pulsar]

why do i know this feel

[raw quartz]

What means percetron?

[opaque sigil]

i would push for people to NOT jump straight into LLMs but at this point it's a lost cause

[hoary lion]

it is kind valid tho

[nocturne olive]

And you must have way too many GPUs

[hoary lion]

it works

[raw quartz]

With what should i begin then? I have to many ideas with llm and much more.

[hoary lion]

just go for LLM

[nocturne olive]

True, the first AI I did from scratch was a couple simple image classifiers

[hoary lion]

there is no certain path for AI

but remember that you would eventually have to go back to understand few concepts

[trim jungle]

Most modern models can work with enough fine-tuning. Just trust with your favorite prompts and fine tune your favorite pick

[opaque sigil]

do whatever makes you happy and keeps you going

[nocturne olive]

Both pure MLP and CNN

[hoary lion]

this tbh

[trim jungle]

A single neuron inside an artificial neural network

[raw quartz]

I am also a little scared too loose interest bc i have ADHD but this project is perfect for my creativity.

[uneven pulsar]

do you care about making something that is "your own" and not just slightly fine tuning someone else's stuff?

[nocturne olive]

Before you let your creativity run wild, make sure you can actually source data for what you want to do

[trim jungle]

Honestly CNNs are the bread and butter of all computer vision

[uneven pulsar]

'yes' to that answer costs about 5 years of dedicated studying, doesn't sound like an ADHD thing to do

[raw quartz]

making my own. If you mean me

[nocturne olive]

It's pretty interesting stuff for sure
And fairly easy for a beginner than understands MLP already

[raw quartz]

BUT I WANT THAT. I want to go in that kind of stuff.

[hoary lion]

uhh

no, i did this shit in about 6 month

[trim jungle]

From scratch??

[raw quartz]

I mean i was into IT since a little kid but never was i was into in the IT direction

[trim jungle]

Lisan al gaib

[hoary lion]

from scratch means lots of things, but I personally think 5 years just to master the architecture is an exaggeration

[trim jungle]

I mean, if you're only going to do DL then you could understand the math and python in a few months

But to grasp all else could be years tbh

[raw quartz]

What means DL?

[trim jungle]

Deep learning

[raw quartz]

I WANT TOO LEARN EVERTHING ABOUT IT.

Im ready.

[hoary lion]

i mean, how much are you willing to sacrifice?

[raw trout]

Hello everyone long time no see

[uneven pulsar]

5 years from "a little python but that's it"

[hoary lion]

Kazami???

i thought this guy evaporated from #programming

[raw quartz]

A lot. i already sactificed my main game. I had 2200 hours in it and i didnt really play it anymore.

I want to learn. i have the feeling thats the right way.

[hoary lion]

damn this guy is going for it lmao

[raw quartz]

And i am 15 so i have a lot of time still

[trim jungle]

He's he chosen one

[hoary lion]

then go for 100 hrs of despair with numpy

and python

[trim jungle]

Yeah, follow an online tutorial on python

[hoary lion]

see you can technically go with torch and call it a day but

uhh you will be back to numpy a bit someday

cause lots of glossary, functions are from there anyways

[trim jungle]

Cupy my beloved

[hoary lion]

just do jax

XLA is the savior

[raw quartz]

I used torch the last few days but there were a lot of issues with the version capability with other "programs?"

[trim jungle]

Wdym?

[raw quartz]

idk what the right word for it. OTHER LIBRARYS

[trim jungle]

Oh

[hoary lion]

??

[trim jungle]

Hmm

[hoary lion]

no you don't have collision with other libs

[trim jungle]

Just create a new env

[hoary lion]

pytorch doesnt do that

you would likely have visual studio c++ build tools issue

but thats all

[raw quartz]

But lets forget that. I learn from beginning. And i will see in the future what my problems were.

[raw trout]

Soon you'll be the person with the 18 yo resume with 5 years of experience

[raw quartz]

Or for what i was too stupid.

[raw quartz]

YEAHHHHHHH

[opaque sigil]

hyper, have you finally embraced wsl

[hoary lion]

oh yes

i surely did

dont even have to do ANYTHING

just uv pip install torch

lmao

[opaque sigil]

good

[raw quartz]

I mean, i have school done in a week. But then i will learn further and go to another school to get a better schoolship i think its called in englisch

or a better resume?

idk how its called.

German School is so confusing

[trim jungle]

Funding for university?

[raw quartz]

Not university. Its like there are 3 types or resumes. After 9 years off school (the worst one) then after 10 years (middle one) and 13 years off school (best one) after the 13 years you can get into a university.

I do rn the worst one and go to another school to do 2 more years of school to get the middle one. After that i will see if i do another 3 years to get the best one.

[trim jungle]

[raw quartz]

But that will be the thing of the future me.

Germany is also the only Country that still uses the system

[opaque sigil]

abitur

[trim jungle]

My ignorance beats me, I don't know that system...

[raw quartz]

Yeah, this system is fucked.

[opaque sigil]

is it?

[trim jungle]

I say you get in a course or python tutorial

[uneven pulsar]

das abitur ja

[opaque sigil]

i guess if you jump from school to school it gets messy

[uneven pulsar]

nah hungary still uses that too

[opaque sigil]

i did everything at the same school so it was pretty chill

[raw quartz]

Yeah, its one of thew worst. Girl After 4th grade you get into a school and with 9 years old you have to decide of you want to do the worst one, middle one or the best.

[opaque sigil]

more like your parents get to decide

[hoary lion]

lmao

[raw quartz]

really. didnt know that. now its the question wht country is really still using that system

[raw quartz]

I had to decide

for me

[opaque sigil]

[hoary lion]

anyway

study hard

feel the pain in the brains

that 'should' work

[opaque sigil]

if my dumbass self can do it surely you can do it too

[raw quartz]

But in my free time i will do prob more to learn for AI.

[opaque sigil]

[raw quartz]

I mean if i dont get a schoolership then i do the year again.

Theres i think no really a limit of how many time you can do it over again.

But thats a really bad habit of thinking

I should get this out of my head

[trim jungle]

And thus begun the legend

[uneven pulsar]

brain pains signal gains

[raw quartz]

and i have the feeling that my 4070 super isnt enough for AI

[uneven pulsar]

be legend, but don't let life slip you by and then be smart and sad at 20-something like so many tho

[raw quartz]

But its so expensive.

a new graphics card.

[trim jungle]

If it's not enough you can use cloud

[opaque sigil]

it's plenty for learning

[raw quartz]

I dont want to pay mouthly

[trim jungle]

Yep

Nah, you pay by credit

I still have my 5$ of openai since january

And have done constant speaking and imaging

[raw quartz]

Nah, i dont have a credit card. and i dont think its good to use it like that

[opaque sigil]

wrong kind of credit

[trim jungle]

Well, if it's good comparison I went through almost all cs course with a 1660Ti

[nocturne olive]

It can do small stuff
But if you want something like an LLM you're gonna need something with more VRAM

[raw quartz]

What means cs courcs?

[trim jungle]

Computer science

[rigid snow]

counter-strike course

[raw quartz]

Idk, i hope the 60 series will be good.

[raw quartz]

ow i though cs means here something diffrent.