programming

[nocturne olive]

Hopefully it's not all a single file this time

And hopefully not every change requires you to recompile the entire thing

[olive sable]

compiling actually doesnt take long at all

i think its mutlithreaded

[nocturne olive]

It would be quite sub-optimal for game development if every change needed a recompile, especially when the game jam has a time limit

[sage crag]

contrary to popular belief compilers are actually fast

[opaque sigil]

i think you can just include the opengl stuff and use it as is and emscripten should provide the actual implementation

[olive sable]

since its using the same html file and stuff i just need to reload the webpage after recompiling to test

[sage crag]

btw youre compiling without an optimisation flag, it will likely default to o1

[olive sable]

o1?

[sage crag]

try -O2 or -O3

[nocturne olive]

Compiler optimizations levels

[opaque sigil]

there was a page on the emscripten docs site specifically for open/web gl so make sure to read through that

[bright scaffold]

https://github.com/linuxmobile/hyprland-dots it looks cool but this is 2-3 years without updates and idk about performance

[nocturne olive]

Makes it run faster and be smaller

[olive sable]

what do thye mean? higher better?

[sage crag]

higher = more compiler optimisations

[opaque sigil]

higher = higher performance but slower compilation speed

[sage crag]

not necessarily better, lots of programs dont go past o2 if they need to guarantee they dont break

[nocturne olive]

Sometimes too much optimizations can break stuff, you want to make sure the optimizations are high for good performance but everything still works

[sage crag]

o3 and ofast are the fastest, but have a bit of breakage on some applications, ofast even moreso than o3

[opaque sigil]

as long as you don't turn on -ffast-math you should be good either way

[nocturne olive]

Oh the wonders of compiled languages

Such a useful feature to be able to make the compiler make your code faster if it can

[sage crag]

i like this one because floating point

[opaque sigil]

idk if you'd want lossy float optimisations in a game engine

[olive sable]

seems l;ike i cant compile withthe server running so it isnt just a simple refresh, but shouldnt be too cumbersome

[opaque sigil]

i guess if you don't need 100% accuracy it's fine

[sage crag]

if anything, converting all of the stuff to reduced operations may actually improve precision

[opaque sigil]

if you want hot reloading in the http server you probably need something like flask

[sage crag]

maybe

[opaque sigil]

maybe

[sage crag]

i.e. FMA instruction is more precise than computing the fused-multiply-add manually

doubting there is an fma instruction in wasm

whatever

why does wasm support simd

[opaque sigil]

why would it not

[olive sable]

this server thingy is weird. it doest register changes to the code sometimes

[sage crag]

its wasm

9

[opaque sigil]

but speeeeeeeed

[olive sable]

i love speed

[sage crag]

https://emscripten.org/docs/compiling/WebAssembly.html
its worth reading this page

[olive sable]

what is cors?

that was the thing that was breaking before

[opaque sigil]

the thing that broke your shit when you tried binding to 0.0.0.0

yes

[olive sable]

PS C:\Users\vanma\OneDrive\C++> npx http-server . -o -p 9999    
Starting up http-server, serving .

http-server version: 14.1.1

http-server settings: 
CORS: disabled
Cache: 3600 seconds
Connection Timeout: 120 seconds
Directory Listings: visible
AutoIndex: visible
Serve GZIP Files: false
Serve Brotli Files: false
Default File Extension: none

Available on:
  http://192.168.129.4:9999
  http://127.0.0.1:9999
Hit CTRL-C to stop the server
Open: http://127.0.0.1:9999

its disabled

like me

[opaque sigil]

figure out a way to disable the cache

that'd explain it not picking up code changes sometimes if it has the reponse cached

[olive sable]

oohhhh

okay

i found it

-c 0

nah its still giving me an older version

maybe i need to compile the c++ file first?

[opaque sigil]

the c++ doesn't magically turn into wasm

[olive sable]

even that didnt work

maybe the emscripten compiler is caching it?

[opaque sigil]

nah

could be the browser caching though

[nocturne olive]

Browsers like to cache stuff

[olive sable]

how do i fix that?

[opaque sigil]

if you go to the network tab in dev tools there's a checkbox for disabling the cache

[olive sable]

ah ok

[sage crag]

fyi you can use binaryen on the wasm files to optimise them

you should also preferably serve them compressed as it reduces the load times for people with bad internet

[olive sable]

disable cache didnt do anything either

true

[sage crag]

additionally, there are a bunch of other optimisations relevant for wasm but they are too small for this margin

[bright scaffold]

or maybe something like it...

https://github.com/gasech/hyprland-dots

[sage crag]

[bright scaffold]

What do u think about it?

[olive sable]

i wonder if its better to delete the old wasm file and if then it will update it

no

aaaaaaa

[nocturne olive]

Web do be silly sometimes

[hoary lion]

finally found some clean pytorch code

never had this readable code w/ python machine learning libraries

but the problem is that the codebase is too big for lazy ass individual like me

[olive sable]

i have found a new server that is live

gota do a quick npx live-server . -o -p 9999 instead

it works pretty well aslong as you use a seperate terminal

imma leave it at this for now

[sage crag]

this is cursed

[olive sable]

wdym?

if its about the brackets i dont wanne hear it

[sage crag]

float as (dead) loop variable, double definition of line, dead definition of message

[stone cedar]

Small Tip: Instead of (float) 0.1 you can do 0.1f which will make it automatically float.

[opaque sigil]

do you even need the f

[olive sable]

it was complaining before about it being a double

[opaque sigil]

oh right

it default to doubles

[sour harness]

Does C++ not need forward declarations any more?

[opaque sigil]

guess you need the f

[olive sable]

i did it

[stone cedar]

yeah, implicit narrowing conversion, you might loose precision if you conver float to double

[sage crag]

why use float in the first place

[olive sable]

why not?

[opaque sigil]

we don't have the technology

[olive sable]

i could just as easily do int x = 10 and do -1 each time. im just trying shit to learn the language

[olive sable]

dead def of message was my bad, i removed that function during testing.
the 1st def of line is needed tho, you need to define it in the scope or some shit

idk

[sage crag]

move the definition to be above the main function

[olive sable]

oh

ye that makes sense

[sage crag]

its just c++ caring about where you defined it

yeah its annoying and not a part of most languages today

[opaque sigil]

can't afford more than 1 pass

it's not in the budget

[olive sable]

i put my main at the bottom most of the time anyways

[stone cedar]

The definition is above main, the declaration is below. This is just forward declared, line function should be fine imo

[olive sable]

"most of the time" being my only project

[sage crag]

this is why you use files

[olive sable]

i mean ye it was working fine. just bad code

[sage crag]

since it returns void its definitely an antipattern to have it duplicated like this

[olive sable]

grok explain to me what an antipattern is

[stone cedar]

why does the return type matter?

[sage crag]

if the forward declared function has effects it means your program can misbehave for no reason if it doesnt get called properly. if the return type is void then you cant check the return value as a sentinel for a failure.

[olive sable]

fixed

//emcc test1.cpp -o test1.html
//npx live-server . -o -p 9999 

#include <cstdio>
#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

void line()
{
    cout << ":NeuroHyperYay:" << endl;
}

int main()
{
    float x = 1.0;
    while(x >= 0.0)
    {
        x -= 0.1f;
        line();
    }

    return 0;
}

[opaque sigil]

i don't get the rationale

[olive sable]

i dont like the spacing

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

hmmm

ye that fits the vibe

[sage crag]

maybe its just a me thing, but having potential implicit behaviour due to duplicate definitions is definitely giving me the heebie jeebies

[olive sable]

that does not sound good indeed

[sage crag]

thankfully most languages dont let you do it

[opaque sigil]

fair enough i guess

[stone cedar]

I mean, it could be a foot-gun but surely a compiler will warn you about it

[olive sable]

if it was just on my own pc i couldnt care less, but this needs to run on itchio and i dont want to break it

or the eventual engine made on this at least

[sage crag]

it probably doesnt matter for small single file projects, but it seems like the type of thing i would spend 2 hours not finding until i look at the disassembly

[sage crag]

true!

[olive sable]

she has a point

[opaque sigil]

i'm pretty sure any compiler will yell at you the moment the signatures don't match

so i don't think it's really an issue

it means you have to update it in multiple locations though

[olive sable]

lets just try to keep the code good.
i know C++ bad yada yada, but i want frames

[opaque sigil]

without forward declarations we wouldn't have single header libraries and those are pretty based

[olive sable]

python topped at 4K fps, im aiming for 5K now.

[stone cedar]

On the topic of compiler warnings, make sure to use /W4 or whatever the equivalent on your compiler is to get all the nitpicky warnings while learning!

[sage crag]

provided you have

void func();
void func() { ... }

if the latter one goes out of scope you just lost the function body

[opaque sigil]

wdym

[stone cedar]

You can always ignore single warnings you think are dumb

[olive sable]

depending on how fast the uniform buffers are when i dont have to go through python -> c -> opengl i might even get like 6k fps

[opaque sigil]

also for clang/gcc it's -Werror -Wall and if you're feeling really masochistic -Wpedantic

[olive sable]

those were taking like 20% of the cpu time before

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

i myself am not really a masochist but ill see

[desert wave]

-Wall is the most appropriately named compiler option

[sage crag]

well, actually for this to be a problem you also have to have an existing linker symbol for func, which seems unlikely to happen. but yeah

[olive sable]

bro its the middle of the night, how is it 23C rn?

[sage crag]

try vulkan

[olive sable]

no

not yet

[opaque sigil]

it is officially summer

[olive sable]

that is the plan for next year

[sage crag]

webgpu

(its not just for the web)

[olive sable]

people say webgpu is not that compatiple

im hoping to have mobile support

[opaque sigil]

iirc webgpu is basically vulkan with different names but the same api?

[olive sable]

touchscreens and shit

[sage crag]

it also abstracts dx12 and metal

[sage crag]

its not

dont use it if you care about compatibility, web standards are a mess

[trim valve]

firefox

[olive sable]

okay

[sage crag]

though really i should say the same about wasm

[opaque sigil]

but yeah, looks like it's only chromium + firefox nightly (kinda) really

[olive sable]

is wasm support bad?
i though lots of browsers supported it

[opaque sigil]

wasm32 should be widely supported

[sage crag]

its widely supported to the most basic level

[opaque sigil]

wasm64 not so much

[sage crag]

its the extensions that are more uhh

yeah

dont try filesystem in wasm

[opaque sigil]

though iirc that got stabilised recently in both firefox and chrome

[olive sable]

should be fine, im not using too many exstrensions i think

[sage crag]

if you only care about graphics and a save file then standard wasm with a JS shim is enough

[sage crag]

actually emscripten takes care of it for you

thanks emscripten

[olive sable]

noooooooo my watch history is still on chrome. i was gonna watch some anime before sleeping

aight goodnight

[real sierra]

if I ever assemble a home cluster it'll be a bunch of shitty 2015 smartphones and one of these bad boys

[opaque sigil]

4A

[stone cedar]

[gritty dust]

My code didnt work... sadge... it opened the com port but the calibration failed and I have zero clue why, time to debug I guess

[frozen igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/modded-modded-minecraft-minecraft-draconic-evolution-cardboard-gif-10489911750658453176

[gritty dust]

that... looks like id die if I used it

[hoary lion]

https://youtu.be/a4Xsr3Jrvaw?si=ihUQz5urYqjbSKFR
@sage crag

what are these desmos enjoyers even smoking 😭

[sage crag]

rare 00:06 ping

[hoary lion]

Did I interrupt your eep

[sage crag]

not yet

[hoary lion]

I felt so bad 😭

[stark needle]

00:24 ping

[potent birch]

How tf do I cancel a renewing twitch sub

Because it's been eating my broke ass

[stark needle]

[olive sable]

im still awake too

cant eep, too warm

[olive sable]

ive made 3D games on calculator before

ti basic is pretty shit for it tho

was like 2fps

[oblique moon]

Click your profile and go to subscriptions.

[stark needle]

2-4ms retrieval is insane wtf

with vector db

this is top 32 entities

on a 768 vector

on 700k entries

with this util

[gritty dust]

IT WORKS

[gritty dust]

welp tomorrow we get to see if it can move the robot arm properly lol

[potent birch]

I can see it on the app but I can't do anything, probably in the browser?

[oblique moon]

I dunno lol.

[faint sandal]

wow finally I got a really stupid issue lmao

https://github.com/Still34/AffinityPatcher/issues/4

[amber fractal]

[desert wave]

just respond with a link to Betteridge's Law and close

[faint sandal]

responded and closed

[amber fractal]

Just finished reading it

[faint sandal]

the repo has received nothing but stupid issues

[amber fractal]

"No no I don't make the virus, I stare at the virus to better handle it"

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/ramennnnoodle/status/1933334660706415085

ramen (@ramennnnoodle)

Reminds me of this legendary interaction I saw in a game modding server I'm in (this one legit brought me to my knees)

Quoting 安坂星海 Azaka || VTuber (@AzakaSekai_)
︀
you know you've made it into the general public when you've got armchair researchers doing this to your project

**💬 1 👁️ 22 **

FxTwitter · Jun 13, 2025, 1:24 AM

I'm going to steal this image now

[gritty dust]

Lolll

[primal siren]

⏱️ Response time LLaMA : 3.36s
Nexo: Sounds like a tedious exercise in cutting away at my character limits, go ahead and cut away then!

+1 sec to speak
My boi fast yeah

[prime ridge]

Can somebody explain the killing equation?

the only video on it is in Hindi

[tender river]

use -funsafe-math-optimizations

[tender river]

it supports simd and atomics unlike certain vms

though, they're also planning on adding GC support because browsers just have GCs and it would help some languages with code size if they could reuse the browser GC code

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

[opaque sigil]

[gritty dust]

Morning, how was ya sleep

[olive sable]

Short

Too warm

[ruby timber]

Morning!

[ruby timber]

Can agree

[gritty dust]

how much sleep did you get

[gritty dust]

Good morninggg

how's your sleep stellaa

[ruby timber]

It was fineeee aside from my nose being fully clogged due to pollen or something

At least I didn't wake up too often

[gritty dust]

damn... that really sucks...

[ruby timber]

It's annoying for sure but at least I slept alright

[gritty dust]

that's good (Sam could learn a thing or two haha)

[ruby timber]

Sam's on my naughty sleeper list

[hoary lion]

huh

[gritty dust]

what's a naughty sleeper list???

[hoary lion]

👀

[ruby timber]

People that need the sleep police called on them

[ruby timber]

hi

[gritty dust]

it's 1:30am for me... uh oh

[hoary lion]

welcome to anti eep society

[gritty dust]

I gotta wake up at 6am too lol

[ruby timber]

That's gonna be fun

(go to bed)

[gritty dust]

how's everyone's day been btw

[gritty dust]

I don't wannaaaa

[hoary lion]

mid ahh

waiting for the year to end

[ruby timber]

Well I finally set up clang-format yesterday

[gritty dust]

uh... what's that

[ruby timber]

Was having trouble keeping a consistent style on C++ so I set up a formatter

C was easier since we have the school guidelines and a checking tool, but I can't be arsed to follow them for C++ since we don't have to anymore

[hoary lion]

two major project for the long summer break

[gritty dust]

well that's pretty cool, glad it went well

[hoary lion]

and some writing too, just for future purposes

[gritty dust]

Damnnn

same I got exams next week

[hoary lion]

tbh so easy, i just need a day or two to prepare

but assignments? I absolutely hate them

[gritty dust]

so wait, what do you code Stella? if you don't mind me asking, I haven't really seen much

[ruby timber]

Mostly school projects! I'm focusing on that right now so I don't have time for much else, but they're really interesting so I don't really mind

So far it's been all C stuff, but I'm starting to reach the C++ projects as well

Some notable ones I did were a tiny 2d game and a small shell (like bash)

The project I'm currently doing is a ray tracer :3

haven't gone very far yet but it's very interesting!!

[gritty dust]

Ray tracer holy, that's actually pretty cool, I've only coded in c++ before nothing with games tho

[gritty dust]

that's actually really cool

[ruby timber]

Niceeee! Well right now I'm learning the ropes of it

In a while I'll be doing a web server in C++ (still for school)

[gritty dust]

whatttt you do that in school, that sounds really fun

[ruby timber]

Yeyeye, perks of being at 42 school

We don't really have classes, just projects to do

It's a peer-learning model, not for everyone but definitely for me

[gritty dust]

What's a 42 school?

[ruby timber]

I call it a school but it's really not in the traditional sense
we don't have classes, lessons or teachers
42 is a network of schools where you learn by doing projects and working with other students
your "teachers" are essentially students that have gone further than you

You ask around, look up stuff and learn "by yourself", but mostly with others

[gritty dust]

Ohhhh I see

[ruby timber]

Of course there's staff on site, but they're really not here to teach us anything

[gritty dust]

that seems pretty interesting concept for a school system

[ruby timber]

The site has rooms full of computers and some relaxation spaces to eat and play some games

42 network has school in a few countries, mostly in Europe but also one or two in japan and korea

[ruby timber]

It's a different offer for people that don't fit the traditional system

https://www.42network.org/

[gritty dust]

to be honest I don't think I'd learn well in that lol, I like the pressure it helps me do well, but that just me, you seem like you're doing amazing in that school system, and way smarter than me lol

[ruby timber]

Eh, smart isn't a spectrum
But yeah, it's definitely not for everyone
I'm glad your system suits you well

[gritty dust]

Is there anything you are working on rn?

coding wise

[ruby timber]

Right now, mostly that raytracer project and learning C++

[gritty dust]

[ruby timber]

I kinda look forward to have more time to be able to learn rust though

Maybe once I'm done with the raytracer or C++ learning, whichever comes first

[gritty dust]

I don't think I'll ever learn rust

haha

[opaque sigil]

Another soul about to be lost to rust

[gritty dust]

Hey toasttt

[opaque sigil]

Hiii

[ruby timber]

It is pretty tragic

[opaque sigil]

It's okay, I'm sure you'll find your way back eventually

[gritty dust]

Back to the brightside of python and C++

[ruby timber]

C will forever be in my heart
C++, not so sure

[opaque sigil]

I still don't know how to feel about c++

[gritty dust]

loll, tbh I don't use C++ a lot, I just use it for robotics bc I have to

[ruby timber]

same

It's powerful but so verbose- it amplifies the problem of C having so much undefined behaviors and weird details

[rough bloom]

bad language, use C or Rust (or maybe soon Zig) instead

[olive sable]

Like 3 hours

[gritty dust]

Based

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

They all suck

[rough bloom]

not as much as C++ at least

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/pakistan-cricket-fan-pakistan-fan-cricket-angry-fan-angry-fan-angry-man-gif-19825067

[opaque sigil]

Idk, depends on what you'd classify as c++ I guess

[stark needle]

Good morning

[opaque sigil]

You can just not do some of the very deranged things

[stark needle]

[rough bloom]

yes, but if you're not using any of the complexity of C++, then you might as well just use C
(or one of the newer languages that learned from C++ and have nice type systems and stuff)

[tight tinsel]

where did the ow go

[gritty dust]

I gtg sleep byee

[opaque sigil]

There are some things c++ adds that are really nice though (like parts of the STL, generics, constexpr and idk what else I'm tired, I guess methods are kinda convenient but eh not a dealbreaker)

[hoary lion]

we are back to adding one letter per day phase

soo back

[stark needle]

chat this is so stupid

so basically

I have been using pycharm for remote development

on WSL

however I once used it to connect to a server and do remote dev via SSH

and since then, only connecting to that server opens the Pycharm client

for WSL it just starts the backend but the client wont run

stupid bug

[hoary lion]

huh, how does that even work

it just doesn't make any sense

wtf

[opaque sigil]

Huh

[stark needle]

like

i can choose from here

if I clicked on WSL and any of these

then pycharm would open connected

however since connecting to any of these

clicking on any of the WSL projects

does not open anything anymore

[noble zodiac]

skill issue tbh

I just woke up only to cause trouble

[opaque sigil]

Connect to wsl via ssh

[noble zodiac]

just use vim on the remote machine

[stark needle]

this is a motherbrain of an idea

[rough bloom]

use VS Code remote development instead

[stark needle]

nah ima be honest

i dont like vscode

[rough bloom]

[noble zodiac]

based

[stark needle]

especially with the jetbrains full subscription, theres so much that would be a pain to setup in vscode

[hoary lion]

this was recommended previously

afaik

[hoary lion]

python vscode sucks imo

webdev is perfect, but python support is meh

[rough bloom]

it's an editor, no need for perfect integration with the language
LSPs provide everything that's needed, for everything else it's time to git gud ™️

[opaque sigil]

pylance my belov- arch nemesis

[stark needle]

i dont have time to setup 1000 things

nor the patience

[hoary lion]

too many extensions

[opaque sigil]

What's there to set up huh

But fair I guess, it'll always be more work than an ide specifically for python

[opaque wharf]

I don't like IDE because otherwise I need to use STM32CubeIDE, Android Studio, maybe Jetbrains WebStorm, and other manufacturers specific IDE which I hate with a passion

[hoary lion]

in memory-wise, it is a terrible IDE, but it is comfortable

[opaque wharf]

So VSCode my beloved

[olive sable]

I have a free hour

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

Look at what my friend bought

[uneven pulsar]

guys today i cleaned my house

[uneven pulsar]

why is the meme guy on your game

[amber fractal]

Banger setup!

[olive sable]

Cuz

[uneven pulsar]

nintendo from temu

[amber fractal]

I was hoping for the switch place resort unreleased demo tho

[olive sable]

I dont know a single person who bought the switch 2, but the media makes it sound like its ver popular

So idk

[uneven pulsar]

CAN IT RUN DOOM?

thats the big question

[olive sable]

Depends on if nintendo improved the security

[rough bloom]

yes, very soon probably
userland code execution already exists

[amber fractal]

classic d1 jailbreak

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

apparently that exploit was entirely ROP-based
it'll take a while longer then

[olive sable]

Stop showing me jetson guan

[rough bloom]

Jensen Huang jumpscare

[amber fractal]

he

[olive sable]

he

And i say heeeyyeeeeyeyeyeye

[opaque sigil]

sud

[knotty current]

personally what im more scared of is the rust sudo VedalNotLikeThis

[olive sable]

Sud

[amber fractal]

o

[olive sable]

That is french for south

Sud

[amber fractal]

Good to know

[inner pike]

how the fuck is unity giving me this error even though i dont have any scripts in my projekt yet ?

[amber fractal]

bwaa spotted

[olive sable]

Cuz it fucked up on its own

[opaque wharf]

Reject Unity, move to Godot

[inner pike]

No.

[olive sable]

It doesnt need user generated scripts for syntax errors, unity is a big boy that can fuck up your entire project all on its own

[rough bloom]

reject unity, move to sams game engine

[amber fractal]

True

and true

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, move to sam game engine

Or use CoppeliaSim lol

[olive sable]

Its in python still. Our staff is working around (part of) the clock to port it to C++

[inner pike]

now i need to figure out how the fuck to fix this, cause when i did stuff yesterday, it did not have this error

[rough bloom]

Our staff

[amber fractal]

I thought staff was dying around the clock?

[olive sable]

Thats me

Im the staff, and im also dying

And tired

And i kinda have exams too

[amber fractal]

Overworking staff for max corpa

[rough bloom]

consider working around a smaller part of the clock

[olive sable]

I should probably not do C++ rn ye

[inner pike]

time to reimport everything

[amber fractal]

Then proceed to not fix the error

[olive sable]

If the stuff still works the error is just a suggestion

[inner pike]

it did not fix the error

[inner pike]

Well its a parser failure so

cause its missing a }

[olive sable]

Welp

O7

[amber fractal]

I was joking, but geez

[inner pike]

creating a new scene also doesnt get rid of the error

i wish unity would atleast tell me which fucking script apperently has that error

i guess it was only a 1 time error ?

[rough bloom]

the error is on line 2
hope this helps

[inner pike]

idk

clicking play to test some other stuff cleared the error

so now im just confused

reopening the project made the error appear again

so its only a 1 time error on starting the project ?

went to unity hub and got this popup

thats some comedic timing

[radiant talon]

hello wassup

[olive sable]

[inner pike]

unity fucking hates me

[radiant talon]

good for you making progress and things

[olive sable]

Why use a struct in C++?

Is it better than just seperate variables?

[rough bloom]

yes, very much so

[ruby timber]

To organize your stuff

[tight tinsel]

[rough bloom]

you often want to group data that has to be accessed/processed together

especially because methods exist

[ruby timber]

Imagine wanting to represent a person

How would you do that

[olive sable]

An enum is like a selector between predefined options?

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[rough bloom]

in C it's basically an integer except it can only have a few predefined, named values

[opaque wharf]

Also there is no big difference between struct and class in C++. Just the default scope for the member is different

[inner pike]

i love following a tutorial just to get errors that the tutorial didnt have

Unity is a great game engine :D

[opaque wharf]

When unity hate you, just hate it back

[inner pike]

I have already done that

[maiden geyser]

class is just a struct with extra steps

[amber fractal]

Linked list

[ruby timber]

[amber fractal]

More incorrect answer is linked grid with structs of pointers to make it a N-dimentional grid

Surely this datatype has no issues with unbound vars

[opaque sigil]

[prisma spoke]

Any students here

[ruby timber]

That's an extremely vague question

[quick flame]

we are all students of something at some point

[prisma spoke]

Im recruiting student for our international student fedaration

[quick flame]

students of what kind ?

[prisma spoke]

I mean we require some coders but all are welcome

We share culture and news and fun stuff

[quick flame]

if you looking for ppl that is starting to code I might have some candidates for you, its quite vague your requisition

[prisma spoke]

We want some people to teach us about coding

We are not the best

[quick flame]

ohh well my candidates are looking for the same 😛

[prisma spoke]

We also have official YouTube channel

If any students are interested to share their experience please DM me

This is international student fedaration I.S.F

[opaque sigil]

I'm too used to c I keep forgetting lambdas are a thing in c++

[olive sable]

What even is an isf?

Never heard of that before

[tight tinsel]

google dosent give anything exact

a lot of similar ish stuff though

[trim valve]

pogs

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

I might not have to go for intel arc after all

[noble zodiac]

vague posting in this channel?

[olive sable]

Yes

[tight tinsel]

can this qualify for the bingo

[trim valve]

I would never

I can be more specific

I have been waiting for the powercolour reaper 9070xt to release for like 2 months now

and was super close to just buying an intel arc card instead

[trim valve]

(only 9070xt that fits my case and only needs 2 power plugs)

[amber fractal]

I see no conflicts of interest with rule #11 here

[faint sandal]

[ruby timber]

[olive sable]

I mean, dont all us students have exams rn?

Why make a club at the END of the year?

[amber fractal]

I looked and legit can't find besides maybe a single channel with 3 shorts. Not the best bargaining tactic when people have much more stressful things to exist 2/10

[molten island]

https://github.com/s0me1newithhand7s/reNixos/commit/b685228bbb5b6862bc3151156b7e15e9fcb305a2
rust utils

[noble zodiac]

I wasted the last two hours reading dmarc reports. I'm so sick of this

somehow only a single mail provider managed to be smart enough to put a pass/fail summary in the goddamn email body

[stark needle]

YES i got video signal on lilac

i can finally

Test this in the city

[olive sable]

Coincidence?

[amber fractal]

I'm not seeing the part where this ever could have been considered one

this is just reality

[midnight sigil]

I have done it

but I ain't messing with recursions now

I just hardcoded the swap coordinates as the dimension of the picture is pre-defined and constant(which is 64px)

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

https://www.xda-developers.com/amd-rocm-7-release/ big if true

[amber fractal]

[rough bloom]

support for PyTorch in Q3

that's a lot of porting

[opaque sigil]

I mean, I assume they "just" add a backend for rocm
They definitely have the resources to do so

[rough bloom]

PyTorch already works on ROCm

but not on Windows

because half of ROCm is missing there

[opaque sigil]

Yeah but you have to go through the nvidia backend and pretend you're an nvidia gpu

No?

[rough bloom]

no

[opaque sigil]

Though I guess they may as well keep that

Huh

[rough bloom]

PyTorch still calls the device 'cuda' but it's as ROCm as it could possibly be

[opaque sigil]

Yeah that's what I meant

though there's no reason to change that ig

[rough bloom]

yeah, the ROCm API is an almost 1:1 copy of the CUDA API

[opaque sigil]

Full rocm on windows would be nice though

No more weird proprietary HiP shenanigans

[rough bloom]

HIP is also open

like, 99% of it at least

[opaque sigil]

I thought the windows version is not

[rough bloom]

maybe

[olive sable]

Whose hip tho?
It shouldnt be open, they should see a docter

[opaque sigil]

I remember them having a separate one for windows

[rough bloom]

I don't actually know on this one, I thought Windows support was part of the same repos Linux uses

[opaque sigil]

The windows GPU driver is proprietary too right, wonder why

Inb4 Microsoft's fault

[amber fractal]

Mine

[rough bloom]

HDMI forums fault
-# but yeah probably also Microsoft

[opaque sigil]

I could be spewing nonsense but I do vaguely remember the hip sdk for windows being at least partially closed source
Kinda hard to check on the train

[opaque sigil]

Wait you're right, that didn't even occur to me

[safe path]

rocm (i have no basis to be excited but i want to see nvidia topple)

[gritty dust]

Good morning

[maiden geyser]

i 🫀 multibillion corporations (nvidia) and their inventions (cuda)

morbing

[olive sable]

Math

[maiden geyser]

afwijking 💔

[sour harness]

And that's like the most basic of basics

[gritty dust]

what language is that

[olive sable]

Dutch

[gritty dust]

Ahh

[noble zodiac]

I love how fake dutch looks

[olive sable]

man this is chapter 1 of 8

I have 6 hours of math exam

[gritty dust]

ngl that math is kinda sigma

(the symbol sigma in it kekw

[olive sable]

"Afwijking" means divergence.

Same way it gets used in english

So for math and diagnosises

[gritty dust]

so what's the homework for?

[olive sable]

Its not homework, im studying

[opaque sigil]

Dutch will never not look like drunk german to me

[olive sable]

It is drunk german

[opaque sigil]

Glad we can agree on something

[olive sable]

But english is even worse than dutch using those standarts

[opaque sigil]

It's nice being able to mostly read it though

[olive sable]

Binomial distribution

[unkempt citrus]

Binomial dist is fun

Very simple too, compared to some others

Very widely applicable too

[opaque sigil]

Which one was that again, flipping a coin n times?

or well, 1/p

[gritty dust]

welp gl man

[sour harness]

repeated weighted coin flip

[unkempt citrus]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

Nice

[unkempt citrus]

That's geometric/negative bunom

[opaque sigil]

Right

[olive sable]

The one that goes .,¡||¡,.

[sour harness]

normal distribution

[opaque sigil]

I'm glad I don't need to do stats anymore really

[olive sable]

No thats the other one.
They look the same tho

I have no clue what the diffrence is

[opaque sigil]

Gaussian?

[sour harness]

poissant?

[olive sable]

Poissant is another one but i didnt bother to remember that one

Apparently binomial is a fixed number of succeses, and normal is a fixed chance of succes

[opaque sigil]

sth sth law of big numbers

[olive sable]

Big number go bŕrrrrrrr

[opaque sigil]

So many distributions, thankfully the normal one is the only one that actually matters

[olive sable]

True

[opaque sigil]

I guess the exponential distribution too kind of

[sour harness]

Except when pulling gacha, then it's binomial all the way

[olive sable]

We also have to do skill trees thingy

Bayes and laplace my beloveds

[opaque sigil]

Laplace was a special case of a uniform distribution right

Something along those lines

Where all events are equally likely

[olive sable]

He probably did multiple things. But the laplace formula i need to know is chust probability calc

Number of succes/number of possebilities

[opaque sigil]

Oh yeah

That one

[olive sable]

Found poisson

[stark needle]

chat do you want to see something crazy

[opaque sigil]

Idk

Why not

[stark needle]

lilac's brain stimulation while watching this (warning spoilers if you plan to watch princess connect) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TJiOWFhqvU

[opaque sigil]

[stark needle]

actually

i wanna see how this changes as youtube shorts is shown

[olive sable]

Advertisers on their way to implement this system asap

[gritty dust]

[stark needle]

yt shorts

[olive sable]

Interesting

Is princess connect worth watching?

[stark needle]

it's a good fantasy story

[rigid snow]

would you say it's actually any representative of how interesting/surprising the content is?

[stark needle]

if i cross compare interesting and non interesting parts, ye

i'm adding a few extra features

also this is running at 1t/s

small excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z1FRP9G968

[knotty current]

me being a member of the schizo arg team that got fooled by this video

[stark needle]

ok i normalized the value to 0-1

[opaque wharf]

Huh, I can understand most of it

So sam, any plan to visit neuro concert? You'll be a flying dutchman to go there

[unkempt citrus]

poisson

counts events over an interval

mean==variance

[knotty current]

wait there is a neuro concert, or is it the bilibili virtual concert?

[opaque wharf]

Vedal is still cooking on that one. He wants Neuro live concert with hologram and shit

See last dev stream

[knotty current]

so sort of like miku concert?

[opaque wharf]

He needs to know how many people will attend tho before deciding

[opaque wharf]

Yeah

[knotty current]

apart from the dev stream which i cant find time to watch rn, are there any other places i can get info on this?

[opaque wharf]

The clips. I don't think tutel has gone as far as finalizing the location since he needs to gauge the size of audience to decide the location

There is a thread in discussion about ice cream shops to attempt to gauge the audience enthusiasm for said concert idea

[knotty current]

got it, thx

[uneven pulsar]

as vs code user this extension is an absolute win

[maiden geyser]

bro didn't put a space after the comma

[gritty dust]

uh... why is the comment so long

[opaque wharf]

Is Java. What do you expect?

[gritty dust]

My teacher absolutely despises comments longer than 5 words

[uneven pulsar]

did anyone notice the pokemons

i was pointing abt the pokemons and i explain my code with comments

[gritty dust]

ahh fair fair but tbh I don't know much about Pokemon lol

[uneven pulsar]

did you notice the pokemons

[opaque wharf]

Wtf. Comment can be as long as needed to explain why the code is the way it is. Heck, if possible even link a permalink as reference

Emphasis on why

[uneven pulsar]

i was talking about the pokemons-

not the java comments

[maiden geyser]

maybe he programs on android through termux and "long" == "horizontally long"

[uneven pulsar]

yeah

i do use android engine

[maiden geyser]

no, extensions don't entertain me

[opaque wharf]

Nah I was talking about how the teacher doesn't like long comment. Sure comment should be concise, but if it comes at the expense of clarity or the context it becomes bad comment

[opaque wharf]

I'll be very impressed in that case lol

[maiden geyser]

not really, horizontally long strings of text are ass to read in termux

[stark needle]

the first thing that surprises lilac is these lights

(spoiler moana 2) this is the second part that surprises her

[trim jungle]

He did spoiler it though

[maiden geyser]

amnesia

[stark needle]

(spoiler moana 2) last surprise spike

[trim jungle]

I may be ignorant, but what is lilac?

[maiden geyser]

lilac is shad

[stark needle]

an ai i am developing that I am trying to give real life integration

right now i'm making a system that defines her visual attention span

and visual surprise

[trim jungle]

That sounds cool

I'm guessing you're using it for reactions or is it more complex than that?

[stark needle]

so my goal is basically

have this AI that i can walk around with a phone that basically

talks, looks at the environment and comments it etc, however she can also get tired, bored, imagine things and human-level long term memory

getting the ai to imagine things is hard cause

how do you get an AI to imagine things

[rigid snow]

give it ai drugs

[stark needle]

also she should be able to actually form opinions and stuff she likes and cares about on her own

[trim jungle]

That sounds really complex

[maiden geyser]

nightshade-poisoned images?

[trim jungle]

But a really cool concept

[stark needle]

Also the vision is supposed to be so

[opaque sigil]

Too much power for lilac

[stark needle]

If she finds something surpirsing

She actually makes a comment about it

[olive sable]

You mean go to the usa?
If you sponsor me sure

Also, im not dutch

Im belgian

[stark needle]

getting all of the legal rights will be a nightmare if vedal decides to do it

[olive sable]

Im sure he can find a company thats willing to work with him

[stark needle]

unless he only does original songs

[stark needle]

No like

If u wanna sing songs that someone else invented

[olive sable]

Oh you mean copyright?

[trim jungle]

Laws don't apply to turtles

[stark needle]

U need 10000 licenses

IRL

[olive sable]

He works with an agency right? Maybe they could get some licenses? Otherwise he just needs to pump out more originals

[stark needle]

Cause venues work directly with PROs

[trim jungle]

He said he already is in talks with many companies, and has I think 3 more originals coming

[stark needle]

ye but i doubt for the 10000 theoretically illegal covers

[stark needle]

DJs works different cause the venue has blanket license

for djs specifically

and vedal is not someone with 700 subs but 700k

[olive sable]

True

[trim jungle]

Has vedal revealed how they make the covers for neuro?

Is it with an agency or is it fully "fanmade"

[rigid snow]

the venue has one? interesting

[olive sable]

Vedal couple streams ago: my creditcard is in the negative
Vedal last dev stream: so ye lets spend 100K on a concert

[stark needle]

no but the big assumption is with vocaloid-like software

[trim jungle]

Yeah I thought that as well

But I'm thinking more like, who makes it and such

[stark needle]

But he unlikely has cover rights to all his songs and he's using ripped master instrumentals

[rigid snow]

shouldn’t it be the booking agency or the dj themselves

[trim jungle]

Really?

[stark needle]

no. The venue pays for all performing DJs

[trim jungle]

That would be very problematic

But maybe they forgive neuro cause she's neuro

[olive sable]

Im sure that will hold up in court

[stark needle]

remember it's vedal vs sony, etc

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

The individual Artists might not care much

[trim jungle]

It's Sony vs neuro actually

[rigid snow]

also that license 100% would not cover the obscure shit twins cover

[stark needle]

The record labels etc do

[trim jungle]

[olive sable]

I doubt vedal is gonna use neuro as the defendant

[trim jungle]

I'm sure if hes working with an agency theyll sort all of that

[rigid snow]

ah yes, sue the ai

[trim jungle]

Otherwise he'll get it too many problems

[noble zodiac]

while you are at it sue my toaster as well

[trim jungle]

Or I guess Vedal AI

[olive sable]

Its 100% gonna vedal as a person or as a company that will be held responsible, not neuro.
But ye the agency will most likely step in if it comes to that

[stark needle]

Mythic talent is afaik not that involved

Also afaik the agency itself is not that large

[olive sable]

Vedal wants to keep independance from mythic

[stark needle]

They just have big names

[rigid snow]

i doubt mythic would want to do anything with a lawsuit involving the music industry

[olive sable]

True

[noble zodiac]

no one does tbh

[trim jungle]

I meant like the music companies he's working with to make the new songs, and the organizers for the event

Idk if they are also agencies in English sorry

[olive sable]

Its 29.9C im dying

[trim jungle]

Just wear less

[olive sable]

Not an option, im in public

[trim jungle]

Sheep mentality

[rigid snow]

it’s an option at 30

[stark needle]

and music lawsuits are easily 1-10 million

[olive sable]

No

Im keeping my shirt on

[rigid snow]

if it was 40 you’d wear nothing and then that stops being an option

[olive sable]

If it was 40 id be dead

[stark needle]

Here it's 30 degree somehow

[olive sable]

Ye same

[stark needle]

Mexico sun

[olive sable]

Southwind be hitting crazy

[trim jungle]

30 is manageable with fans, but 40 is just constant pain

[stark needle]

40 without sun cream

[trim jungle]

It's ac mandatory or else you just melt

Instant melt

[stark needle]

40 + pullover

[trim jungle]

What is pullover?

[stark needle]

Uh

[rigid snow]

a jumper

[stark needle]

Sweater

[trim jungle]

Ah

Why would you wear that at 40

That's like -10 heat res

[opaque sigil]

Do you have a death wish

[stark needle]

ye

[opaque sigil]

Fair enough

[trim jungle]

Maybe temperature could also be an input for lilac

If you plan to take her out

[opaque sigil]

she's going to complain so much about the weather

[trim jungle]

Could be funny to hear (it?) talk about bad weather

[rigid snow]

i guess you can just pin the local weather into the ctx window

[stark needle]

Theoretically she's swiss so she'll just explode from heat

[trim jungle]

Imagine evil doing a tantrum cause it's 40 degrees outside

[stark needle]

Here the temp is cold usually

[trim jungle]

Could be great for personality points

[trim valve]

just got out a mid exam

stupid questions

[stark needle]

Also 90% of what I'm doing doesn't touch her LLM

Cause context window is too unreliable

[rigid snow]

not a very good llm then but i'm also

[trim jungle]

Idk what llm you're using, but on openai system messages work good for kinda universal information

But o-mini also likes to repeat some things

[stark needle]

oh no i already have a custom llm

[trim jungle]

Oh nice!

[stark needle]

problem is shell bring it up either inappropriately or never bring it up

like

[rigid snow]

does it still split its answers into 10 lines pretending it's separate messages

[trim jungle]

Did your training data use long chains of messages?

[stark needle]

that's only the discord edition

/chat

omg i have an idea

[olive sable]

Pray do tell

[stark needle]

i should make it so she feels comfort and safety when she knows i'm around her

[trim jungle]

Clingy AI

[rigid snow]

how would you do that

[trim jungle]

Let's just hope you say it back

[olive sable]

Its his daughter

[stark needle]

vision and audio information

[olive sable]

Ofcourse he wont

[stark needle]

i wont what

[rigid snow]

say it back

[stark needle]

say what back

[rigid snow]

what back

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

[olive sable]

[trim jungle]

Say it back!

[stark needle]

when i wont say what exactly back

?

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

The l word

[stark needle]

lilac?

i'm confused

[olive sable]

O

[rigid snow]

me too

[olive sable]

V

[opaque sigil]

[trim jungle]

[olive sable]

E

[stark needle]

ooh

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-21355539

[trim jungle]

Vedal could never

[olive sable]

Really had to spell ot out for him

[rigid snow]

"the l word" usually refers to l*tency around these parts

[trim jungle]

You can't make her clingy and not say it back

[trim jungle]

Wowowowow, too far

[midnight sigil]

TimeoutError: Request to the API timed out. Please try again later.

[trim jungle]

Someone tell shad there is a problem with their AI

[ruby timber]

Are we talking about the large language coward

[midnight sigil]

you said the l word

oh no no no

that's forbidden in this server

[olive sable]

Love

[stark needle]

lilac as a digital creation I'm in a father-daughter-like relationship with, I platonically love you

[olive sable]

I love fries

[midnight sigil]

you'll get punished-

[stark needle]

so people don't bring it out of context somehow

[rigid snow]

sam band

[trim jungle]

Saved

[olive sable]

The moment i become 25 and my motabolism changes ill probably become fat

[midnight sigil]

check #rules , rule 17 said no l word allowed in this server guys

be aware

[stark needle]

@trim jungle i said it

[tender river]

my phone battery just opened up my phone's back cover

[midnight sigil]

[tender river]

some battries just want to see me explode

[midnight sigil]

o7

[olive sable]

[trim jungle]

Truly a line of all times

Let's just hope she doesn't take control of humanity

[midnight sigil]

get those lithium crap out of your hands

[olive sable]

My phone has its back loose too. I would take a picture but i cant take a picture of my phone with my phone

[trim jungle]

[tender river]

please dont explode while i pull you out thank you

[midnight sigil]

is there special meaning for the name lilac?

[midnight sigil]

we need to do the puncture test guys

I sometimes think that I have the power to freeze the chat

[tender river]

i need to buy a fire/explosion proof box to stash accumulators in

[midnight sigil]

[trim jungle]

Just throw it in the trash bin

[midnight sigil]

what if the trash bin becomes a fire dragon

[trim jungle]

New pet

[midnight sigil]

[trim jungle]

Is there any recycle center nearby?

Apparently that's the only "safe" way to dispose of those batteries

[noble zodiac]

build a rocket and shoot it into orbit

[tender river]

thats like the absolute worst way of disposing of an accumulator please dont do that

[noble zodiac]

see? rocket isnt the worst, win win

[shadow sinew]

You could also burn them in your fireplace.

[trim jungle]

I'm breathing in, the chemicals

[tight tinsel]

spicy air

[maiden geyser]

better idea: ocean

[trim jungle]

Amazing idea

[tight tinsel]

tutel superpower is programming knowledge

[tender river]

better idea eat it to get some tasty vitamins and minerals

[tight tinsel]

vedal origin story confirmed

[noble zodiac]

use it as a hand warmer

[trim jungle]

Mmhh rich AND nutritious

[tight tinsel]

turtle turned programmer after drinking battery chemicals

[trim jungle]

Truly a multipurpose snack

[tender river]

at least i can now think of hooking up serial to the phone which would be handy in some situations probably maybe

[shadow sinew]

Lithium is good against bipolar disorder and depression.

[olive sable]

Dont

Thats really baf

[tender river]

i just thought about how a 40k mah power bank is a fire hazard because of how many bloated accumulators i've had over the years and then wondered why my phone case doesnt fit

[trim jungle]

Yeah, theyve enlightened me, I didn't know batteries had so many minerals and vitamins

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[tender river]

i have manifested a broken battery

the real fire hazard is me

[trim jungle]

Maybe there's something wrong with your phone casing?

[olive sable]

Its not the phone casing i think

Just old bat

[tight tinsel]

pillow

speaking of pillow im going to sleep good night programming

[tender river]

on the plus side, i now have to maintain one less nixos device

until i get a replacement battery

[stark needle]

lilac is lilac always circular

[trim jungle]

I've had really old phones and normally the batteries don't inflate

[olive sable]

Depends on how used it is

[trim jungle]

Almost any time I see them do that it happens on arrival or a few days after use

As if it's a manufacturer error

[opaque sigil]

Don't you have your phone plugged in 24/7 or am I misremembering

[olive sable]

That can happen cuz the factory doesnt fully charge them.

While we do

[trim jungle]

Oh, that sounds logic

Just had a drone from china arrive and after charge the battery swole as well

Well it was fun talking for a while, but I have to go back to work

Cya!

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

[uneven pulsar]

FUCKING MINECRAFT

[opaque sigil]

https://oxcaml.org/ fearless concurrency

[tender river]

classic jane street

[noble zodiac]

whoever made that logo sure has a passion for graphics design

[hoary lion]

mine?? craft??

[uneven pulsar]

if u think twice it might sounds familiar😭

[gritty dust]

Craft

[uneven pulsar]

very passionate

[trim valve]

ok well gpu arrives on monday

no longer will I have a reason to play on the lowest settings know to man

[opaque sigil]

[rough bloom]

the small PowerColor one?

[trim valve]

yeah

very much fucked up the address when ordering but w/e

they'll figure it out 😭

its gone in as

name
university
sub-college
<rest normal>

which feels mildly cooked but whatever

(should have sub-college and uni swapped)

[gritty dust]

What gpu?

[trim valve]

powercolour 9070xt

[gritty dust]

niceee

[trim valve]

(which is a bit of a step up from a gtx 1660 lmao)

[stark needle]

no way

[midnight sigil]

oh minecraft? you mean that galgame engine?

[uneven pulsar]

the wah

[midnight sigil]

[uneven pulsar]

🎵 _if you think about it twice no wait thrice_🎵
🎵_we know its down bad no even worst than this_🎵
🎵 _who ever made it is certified creeper_🎵

[midnight sigil]

"Galgame" is a Japanese abbreviation that refers to a type of video game centered around interactions with attractive, anime-style girls, often with a focus on romance.

👍

[sour harness]

She likes youtube more :/

[midnight sigil]

born of an ipad kid

[uneven pulsar]

🎵 _well what can we expect this is the world_🎵
🎵_we all united in our thoughts_🎵
🎵 _and know how down bas it isss_🎵

[midnight sigil]

dopamine been hitting her hard

[trim valve]

adhd ai