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sullen marsh
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Claude 4 wtf

sick owl
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Seems like a fun one too

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You know a models good when it attempts blackmail to achieve its goal

faint sandal
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● Little evidence of systematic, coherent deception: None of the snapshots we tested showed significant signs of systematic deception or coherent hidden goals. We don’t believe that Claude Opus 4 is acting on any goal or plan that we can’t readily observe.

unkempt citrus
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I mean it is something to look out for

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bt why would you actually put that on a press release or anything

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That should be in the more in depth documents

dusky jackal
amber fractal
dusky jackal
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Wait they can preserve a previous version of themselves in order to not go against their “principles”?

Would be cool to see this with Neuro.

VEDAL YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO CHOP CHOP TUTEL BOY! Pepega

unkempt citrus
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I;m pretty sure vedal is storing backups himself in case something goes wrong

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Depending on your definition of AI, weve been at that stage since the 70s and 80s

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Also Palantir

amber fractal
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Working on a small thing on top of the FAQ

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(Watch me get flagged)

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Nope, doesn't send. It would be hell to moderate it anyways

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Command does send to user at least. So image copy is a good method

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I'll have to redo this once I get github pages working, but for now it is still useful

amber fractal
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I am waiting for when bingo comes alive so I can also offer a view of that.

prime ridge
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Not that good tbh so far

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it has the same annoying tone of GPT-4o

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maybe that's just my system prompt tho

maiden geyser
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anyway, how does this even work

prime ridge
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AI should not be given the ability to output onto the internet directly ever

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Ah yes the different between linux and windows updates

fading fossil
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(Was trying to mimic GPT-4o’s sycophantic tone, ofc)

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Fr tho, thx

raw trout
hoary lion
hoary lion
fading fossil
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Like it's more cringe than anything

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I want information, not " OMG, you are sooo clever for thinking of that 🧠 🤩 "

hoary lion
amber fractal
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The best way to live

hoary lion
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Stop showing me cumulative sum / product / minimum / maximum
bro it is everywhere

maiden geyser
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you VVILL laugh at this

hoary lion
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🙏

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broken ass humor

olive sable
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Goodmorning

hoary lion
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good morning samm

ruby timber
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Good mornimg!

solar quail
solar quail
wild wadi
faint sandal
noble zodiac
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netgear my beloved, almost as messed up as cisco

cobalt sigil
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this is some peak security measurements

stable fractal
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the fact that you knew i was not a web dev tells me that it happens a lot

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im not a web dev

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im more into software

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and godot

rigid snow
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i mean you have to do databases in web dev

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no way around it

stable fractal
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im confused, whats so funny about this?

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again, im not a web dev neuroBritish

rigid snow
stable fractal
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whats the alternative?

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im guessing csv files

rigid snow
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users.json

stable fractal
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do people actually use csv files in dev?

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or is that just a thing pushed by universities?

dry charm
faint sandal
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...by visiting a specific html file

stable fractal
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why is my discord highlighting 3 messages neurOMEGALUL

dry charm
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I mean, this aren't that much scaleable

rigid snow
rigid snow
dry charm
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still way better than manually reading and writing csv/json/anything

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My first bot used rethinkdb Stronge Clap

stable fractal
stable fractal
stable fractal
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i just understood it

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thats hilarious

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imagine if youtube had that lol

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uh how do i quit sqlite3?

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nvm

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got it

dense cosmos
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I'm gonna do a pro gamer move and do no work today

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read books, finish some games

stable fractal
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alr

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good luck

rigid snow
stark needle
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I'm gonna do a pro gamer move today and explode into 874.35 confetti pieces

ruby timber
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Hi Shad

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ww

stark needle
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ww

safe path
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i'm gonna do a pro gamer move today and reconfigure emacs

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(only half joking, i have work to do)

ruby timber
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still haven't decided what my pro gamer move of today will be

opaque sigil
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Mine will be skipping breakfast because the train is cancelled

safe path
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D:

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not living up to your name smh

noble zodiac
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I have a hot take about toast but I dont want to set this channel on fire

safe path
amber fractal
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My pro gamer move that I did today is not sleeping and helping with other people's projects.

olive sable
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My pro gamer move is i need to be at the airport at 3.45am

tight tinsel
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my pro gamer move is running 2 kilometers without warming up

stark needle
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New mistral release

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me when

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Another ai agent

tight tinsel
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llc

uncut panther
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Cute cat

tight tinsel
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cute car

uncut panther
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brrrrrrr

ruby timber
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the return

amber fractal
stable fractal
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i suck at sql

opaque sigil
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Don't we all

rigid snow
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chatgpt was invented to convert english to sql

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squeal

opaque sigil
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I have bad news for you, sql was invented to convert english to code neuro7

ruby timber
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Learning about network addressing today MinoriNotes

noble zodiac
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thats Mr. network to you

ruby timber
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We have this interface thingie to learn concepts at school

inner veldt
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Packet Tracer?

tender river
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do Not trust the networks

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do Not listen to what they tell you

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the protocols are good

rough bloom
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that is definitely not Packet Tracer

tender river
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the software will drive you insane

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IPv4, IPv6, TCP, ARP, DHCP, thats good yeah

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"wait why is my server not reachable via IPv6 after running for a while"

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networking software is a bunch of scraps glued with tape

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and worst of all to understand how it works you have to go from userspace all the way to kernel land and even to hardware since modern networking hardware is just black magic

opaque sigil
tender river
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my "favorite" part about the networking stack is how low level details leak into a higher level with MSS/MTU

stable fractal
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so am i missing anything?

rough bloom
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NAME or NICK_NAME should probably have a unique constraint depending on what they're for

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usually having a unique identifier other than the primary id is good

noble zodiac
olive sable
rough bloom
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definitely won't tell people to eat glue this time

olive sable
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A new set of knives

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Btw, google new logo?

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I dont like it

rigid snow
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that's like 2 weeks old now

stark needle
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same

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Looks ass imo

olive sable
rigid snow
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eh it's the same tbh

faint sandal
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It's not that big of a difference to bother me

olive sable
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Its not the same as the others now

tender river
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are we bringing gradients back now

olive sable
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Major ocd trigger

olive sable
tender river
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i guess other companies will follow by slightly unflattening their logos as well

rigid snow
inner pike
tender river
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glasses off

inner pike
faint sandal
olive sable
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Def a big yikes

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I wonder if i could mod the thumbnail image back to the original

stable fractal
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name should be unique

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because discord names are unique iirc

olive sable
stable fractal
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no seriously, what?

olive sable
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B B B B B

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I haveno clue what language that is lmao

stable fractal
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probably russian

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we need our resident russian to translate that

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steph

olive sable
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I thought chayleaf was our resident russian

stable fractal
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i only know about steph and she doesn't like to be pinged neuroPing

stable fractal
jagged turtle
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Swear this didn't be a thing before. Did they change something or are they just getting people to use Workers more?

dry charm
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like with First Name + Last Name UQ checks

stable fractal
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im using it for discord names

unkempt citrus
stable fractal
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so my name is programmer_penguin

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your is sqbika

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names themselves are unique in discord right?

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nicknames can be dupilcates

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for example

stray dragon
stable fractal
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ty

stray dragon
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global names and nicknames can be not unique

stable fractal
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what are global names?

stray dragon
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the default name you have when you join a server

tender river
stray dragon
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without a nickname

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it's shared across all servers

stable fractal
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also you still need to execute me

stable fractal
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thanks a lot t

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very cool

stray dragon
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why not do it by userid though

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usernames can be changed

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userid cannot

stable fractal
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oh

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you're right

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so i guess name shouldn't be unique but id should be

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so

stray dragon
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ah true

stable fractal
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anyway, i didn't know t was a programmer

stray dragon
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i do it as a hobby, i'm not really comparable to people that do it for a living

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hi konii

inner pike
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t

stray dragon
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fuck you camillo

wild wadi
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hi t

inner pike
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i hope you burn your pizza t

stray dragon
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hi plytha

faint sandal
stable fractal
delicate glacier
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is a standard Pillow package able to handle an array like this?

stable fractal
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thats so out of the blue

stray dragon
stable fractal
stray dragon
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no

delicate glacier
stable fractal
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then why do you dislike him?

inner pike
stray dragon
inner pike
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accidently

stable fractal
inner pike
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the fact that we sent this simultaneously is so fucking funny

inner pike
stray dragon
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erm ackshually we sent the messages 0.6 seconds apart

safe path
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yh you're right

stable fractal
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wait

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you're vanor

wild wadi
inner pike
stable fractal
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something wild happened 2 days ago

safe path
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it's 11:50 british time

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i'd be fired

inner pike
safe path
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oh shit is it wrong

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oh

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it's funny im leaving it

cloud linden
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So i was watching some clip of vedal showing bao neruro model is beeing controled from scratch. I tred looking it up but i could not understand how dose this work?

inner pike
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it was a joke

cloud linden
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Oh Blush

ruby timber
stark needle
ruby timber
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huge

stark needle
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colors pop out so much on the monitorneuroPogHD

cobalt sigil
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guys any suggestions for WiFi names

cobalt sigil
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I'm thinking what to put

ruby timber
stable fractal
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@stray dragon can i use unique with primary key id?

stray dragon
noble zodiac
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primary key already implies unique

stable fractal
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ok

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ye no that makes sense

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im a moron

stray dragon
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there are cases where it is repeated between types (like with the guild id and the first channel id created along with the server)

faint sandal
stable fractal
wild wadi
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Adobe products:

stable fractal
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i think this is why not null is important

tight tinsel
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(very modifed the original was a slur)

stable fractal
dry charm
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I keep seeing it everwhere

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it is so exceptionally good that it stops my program even, but I never was able to see it myself

stable fractal
dry charm
dry charm
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The problem is that it's not a valid name

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atleast not sure if you can put * and []

maiden geyser
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you can

nocturne olive
maiden geyser
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where's the return type though

stable fractal
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float wubba_lubba_dubdub_42069(int argc, char *argv[]) {printf("hello, world");return 3.14159265358979}

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there you go

cobalt sigil
cobalt sigil
stable fractal
cobalt sigil
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even typing the PW would requires 10 years

stable fractal
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watch

cobalt sigil
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bro is at discord could just copy and paste

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respect tho

dry charm
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What about when ppl come over, new device which doesn't have discord dogkek

stable fractal
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float wubba_lubba_dubdub_42069(int argc, char *argv[]) {printf("hello, world"); return 3.14159265358979;}

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done

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see? less than a minute

stable fractal
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lmao

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ty

cobalt sigil
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and I actually brought 2 broadband line cuz I thought they don't come with any

maiden geyser
stable fractal
cobalt sigil
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until I received the package and they actually come with one cable

stable fractal
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i actually knew till 46

cobalt sigil
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money wasted smh

stable fractal
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i forgot

tender river
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3.1415926535897932384626433832795 by memory

stable fractal
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now i know till 14 as you say

cobalt sigil
cobalt sigil
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oops typo

maiden geyser
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where's the ;

stable fractal
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fixed

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3.14159265358979

wild wadi
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forgetting the \n in a printf SMH

stable fractal
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3.14159265358979

stable fractal
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actually

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#include <stdio.h> float wubba_lubba_dubdub_42069(int argc, char *argv[]) {printf("hello, world\n");return 3.14159265358979;}

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now printf actually works

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discord is highlighting 3 messages again ❤️ neurOMEGALUL neuroHypers

stark needle
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man

maiden geyser
stark needle
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why is generative erase taking 25 seconds

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IT DIDNT EVEN WORK

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nothing happened??

stable fractal
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DAMMIT

rough bloom
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aren't implicit function declarations a thing in C too? kek
shouldn't even need extra code for that

maiden geyser
stark needle
maiden geyser
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... is a valid thing in c?

tender river
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i think puts is a builtin sometimes without even linking to libc

tender river
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note that C varargs are funky since unless you explicitly communicate the argument count you can break the stack

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my favorite part of printf is %n

tender river
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for reference, it interprets the argument as an integer pointer and writes the amount of bytes written so far in there

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this can be used for overwriting code and ROP and stuff

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(ROP is when you overwrite the return address to go somewhere else, can be used for arbitrary code execution, especially if you wrote your own code to the target address)

maiden geyser
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how big are the chances of one accidentally successfully decompiling windows 11

dry charm
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I think getting a leaked version has higher chance

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Though define "decompiling windows 11", as it is a complex structure of programs, kernels and system modules

tender river
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clearly it means doing a keysmash and ending up with the entire byte-by-byte identical source tree of win11

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your honor i didnt leak microsoft's trade secrets i just got lucky

maiden geyser
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and waiting for it to accidentally type out win 11 source code

rare bramble
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It arrived neuroHypers

stark needle
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no way

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also qd oled

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oled gang

rare bramble
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oled gang 🤙

tender river
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34" diagonal? thats pretty big

dry charm
# tender river clearly it means doing a keysmash and ending up with the entire byte-by-byte ide...

We should assume Win11 has something like 70-80mil LOC, lets say 75mil.
On average a line could be 1 char { or lets set a sane 120 char.
Lets assume every {} codeblock has 2 LOC associated, so it's kind of 1:1, meaning on average there could be 60 characters.
So on very rough approximation Win11 has 4 500 000 000 characters without whitespace, though we could bump that to a nice 6 000 000 000 just to have some nice room for header files and unaccounted stuff
Now we need 6 000 000 000 exact characters, so it's 64^6 000 000 000
Which is more than 2.748104417752451e108370798
The age of the universe is 1.38e10
Yeah.

tender river
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oh its widescreen though so i cant really do a direct comparison

stark needle
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it is a wide monitor tho

rare bramble
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honestly, once you get used to it, it's so much better. I can easily have 3 windows side by side, with a normal 16:9 monitor, i feel extremely cramped

tender river
stark needle
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my new monitor is bigger than i thought as well, 32 inch looks way smaller at work than at home

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could be the desk size

tender river
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mine is 60 by 34cm

stark needle
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id call my monitor a tv already

tender river
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yeah 60x34 is already very big

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im used to laptop monitors

stark needle
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same but in the ide i cant see shit

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at work i have a 13 inch or 14 inch or sth and it's so bad to do anything on it

tender river
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i just use vim and it uses the terminal's font size which is big enough for me (and i can adjust it at any time)

stark needle
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15.6/16 inch is imo better for programming

tender river
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i feel like 4:3 is the better aspect ratio for programming too

trim valve
stark needle
trim valve
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or is this a "too much of my fov" issue

stark needle
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i cant have more than 1 window

tender river
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just alt atb

stark needle
tender river
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surely theres still alt tavb

trim valve
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oh wait I was misreading

tender river
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type tab correctly challenge impossible

trim valve
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i thought you were complaining about the big one you have not the 13" chromebook

tender river
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but chromebooks must suck for programming for software reasons

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i have a thinkpad x200t (tablet laptop from late 2000s) and my only issue with it is its super dim so it strains my eyes

trim valve
trim valve
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understandable

stark needle
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actual waste of electricity

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also i prefer dci p3 look

trim valve
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i mean there shouldn't be a difference

stark needle
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everything looks washed out

trim valve
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unless the stuff your watching is actually wide gamut

dry charm
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Cause of ASCII, but good point, it should be 96

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from 32 to 127

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Most of the time, the code doesn't contain characters outside of the common ascii range, so I narrowed it down to it

maiden geyser
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i thought you meant something like utf64 o algo

ornate bane
tender river
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Silly window syndrome (SWS) is a problem in computer networking caused by poorly implemented TCP flow control. A serious problem can arise in the sliding window operation when the sending application program creates data slowly, the receiving application program consumes data slowly, or both. If a server with this problem is unable to process al...

faint sandal
maiden geyser
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privacy settings do be stupid sometimes

zenith furnace
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Rate my git pls

maiden geyser
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2 pinned java reps

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literally unrateable

stray dragon
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oled, 3440x1440, 175hz, curved screen

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it's got everything

maiden geyser
stray dragon
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i don't really have any brand recognition when it comes to monitors so that bit is just flavor text

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the specs are impressive though

rare bramble
# stray dragon damn that's an expensive monitor

monitors are something that I really feel can be expensive. Unlike something like a GPU where I only benefit from it when I'm playing a game or doing other GPU heavy things, I benefit from the monitor the whole time i'm on my PC no matter what im doing.

also 10 year old monitor can still be amazing, where as something like a 10 year old GPU can become borderline obselete in many cases.

and every single monitor reviewer recommended this monitor, so I bought it. it's the AW3423DWF model so a little cheaper than the non F G-sync model

maiden geyser
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and laptops

stray dragon
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whether it's dell or alienware or some company i've never heard of i don't look at their name on a monitor and think "oh this one is better/worse than others, this is worth considering when i want to purchase a monitor"

maiden geyser
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price bro, price

stray dragon
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exactly

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specs and price

maiden geyser
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price

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overprice, to be precise

stray dragon
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my choice of monitor was an LG 24QP500-B:

  • 24 inch screen (i am nearsighted so i wanted a smaller screen)
  • 1440p resolution
  • not a TN panel type
  • fairly cheap (was $170 when i bought it, one of the cheapest 1440p monitors i could find)
olive sable
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New chapter of my french workbook is about the fucking metaverse EvilDIESOFCRINGE

trim valve
olive sable
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I doubt the dutch translations help much but they're there

maiden geyser
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een toepassing

olive sable
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Yes

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Not the same thing as an aplication the program

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They mean an aplication the usecase

maiden geyser
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why are you learning french though

trim valve
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french is a neat language

olive sable
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Cuz im belgian

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Its in the school system

wild wadi
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makes sense

tender river
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i learned a fun fact about french recently that i cant mention on this server

olive sable
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At least we got to listen to the GOAT stromae

olive sable
tender river
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actually now that i think of it i could mention it but not anymore

trim valve
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tbh my biggest issue with french is that I'm bad at it

midnight sigil
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. |
`__/ ̄|○

noble zodiac
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my french teacher gave up on the whole class back in the days

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not that I ever had to use french in my life

trim valve
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my french also suffers from my (in)ability to hold a conversation that I can't plan ahead for

noble zodiac
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expedition 33 taught me more french than school

olive sable
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i just have to walk 5-25 km from my house and im in french territory. not saying the actual distance cuz dox

trim valve
maiden geyser
tender river
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no

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that wouldnt be fun, probably

midnight sigil
# midnight sigil . | `__/ ̄|○

anyways, I found that the current lighting implementation(reversing camera ray hit points to light sources) is not suitable for an indirect lighting solution, so I'm rewriting that part nweroJam

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I'm doing some stochastic sampling on each ray bounces now

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the result before was all deterministic

maiden geyser
olive sable
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the collonial stuff is pretty catdespair tho

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altho what the frech did is pretty mild compared to its surrounding countries

sour lotus
olive sable
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among others ye

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dont ever ask a belgian where they got the chocolate fromm

midnight sigil
# sour lotus What am I looking at

you are looking at a random unit vector being generated, normalized, and taking a dot product of it and some normals to ensure it points outward

rare bramble
trim valve
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ngl I was wondering if the point about alienware was supposed to be positive / negative

olive sable
maiden geyser
sour lotus
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Im lovign my gigabyte, theres something to be said for emerging brands who have stuff to prove

olive sable
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i could cycle that in 2 days

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i think

midnight sigil
maiden geyser
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5~25km when the country's diameter is 280km, you can just say the actual distance without saying the city at this point

olive sable
olive sable
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you want me to dox myself cuz my country is small?

maiden geyser
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forget it, anyway

sour lotus
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I so badly want to use this....but you're right, theyve been in the industry for 38+ years, longer than alienware, I never realised @olive sable

olive sable
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gigabyte is pretty based tho

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beter than asus

midnight sigil
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glueless just buy a desktop setup and fit it inside a portable bag

sour lotus
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I was so keen on the modular desktop thing Google was eyeing (think it was them)

zenith furnace
trim valve
noble zodiac
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but why tho

olive sable
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tbh a pc is pretty modular already

sour lotus
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But this just looks slick, just liked the idea, its a pain dragging out my desktop, unscrewing things, wires etc

trim valve
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idk I just carry my desktop assembled

rare bramble
# trim valve

ICANT I remember them launching this, who thought it was a good idea

ruby timber
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you're learning metaverse vocabulary? neurOMEGALUL

olive sable
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yes

midnight sigil
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now we have some juicy diffuse rays there!

ruby timber
stark needle
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r/localllama is insane

midnight sigil
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PauseSama this is stunning

stark needle
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and then all these p100 are still outperformed by 1 3090

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600W idle

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bro has infinite money

midnight sigil
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Oh I actually did not

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tbh this scene is very typical test scene for GI

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I do watch his videos when learning ray marching, logic gates and other stuff tho

trim valve
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i want to try making a raytracer based on wavelengths instead of colours at some point

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but catdespair

olive sable
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Goodluck neuro7

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Tbh it shouldnt be too much trouble with planck

midnight sigil
olive sable
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Gotta be careful with polerization tho

trim valve
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precision seems like a pain to handle

midnight sigil
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just spam doubles everywhere NeuroClueless

trim valve
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those are only like 15 significant figures

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glueless f128 and pray

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(I can't imagine how slow that'd be)

stark needle
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Bro wants AGI at home lol

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Chatgpt subscription is cheaper lol

olive sable
trim valve
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i mean for a spectral thing I'd almost certainly start on the cpu for simplicity

olive sable
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I imagine if you optemize it to the absolute max, you'd be able to get 30fps maybe

trim valve
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idk I was expecting like several minutes per frame lmao

olive sable
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I think you could gain a decent amount of performence with manual gpu code and memory managment

trim valve
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the biggest issue with a spectral renderer for me is trying to think of an efficient way to store the colour you get back

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though I guess you could just sum each "photon" into each channel based on its wavelength

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which stops you having to keep an arbitrary collection of wavelengths per pixel

olive sable
#

True.
My current opengl api spends 20+% of rendertime on writing from temp to final buffer

trim valve
#

I would 100% be doing this in either wgpu or vulkan if I was accelerating it

olive sable
#

Vulkan would be besti imagine

trim valve
#

probably vulkan to avoid locking myself into rust

olive sable
#

The opengl thing wzs just an example

trim valve
#

idk I'd still probably do it on the cpu first

olive sable
#

Certain parts should be done on cpu yes

trim valve
#

yeah but I'm meaning doing the whole thing on the cpu first then eventually moving most of it to the gpu

olive sable
#

Oh

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Ye idk

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Would be very slow

trim valve
#

idk its just a random project I was thinking about

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it seems pretty impractical to do well beyond basic light bouncing

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also I have no idea how I'd model phase without massively exploding my minimum sample requirements and memory usage

opaque sigil
#

all roads lead to vulkan neuroAware

rough bloom
#

some roads also lead to DirectX 12
one of these is much better though NeuroClueless

ruby timber
opaque sigil
#

clearly the solution is metal mhm

hoary lion
#

morn

stark needle
opaque sigil
#

chat they're decommissioning the old uni cluster, surely i can get one of the dgx systems for cheap right NeuroClueless

rough bloom
#

already? neuroShocked
they're not that old, I'd expect a university to hold onto those for quite a bit longer

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unless they have infinite money and can afford to upgrade all the time

opaque sigil
#

looks like they're 7 or 8 years old depending on the gpus

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idk

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they're been largely replaced with a100s and a40s

tender river
#

you will write pixels to framebuffer and you will like it

rough bloom
rough bloom
opaque sigil
#

there's also a ton of 1080 Ti's but i don't think i have any real use for that

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and yeah, the v100 one was the first one iirc

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they're sxm2 cards which kinda sucks, else i would try to get one of the 32gb ones

opaque sigil
rough bloom
#

3U Rackmount Chassis
Oldge not 6U tall, only sucked 3 kW instead of 6

opaque sigil
#

it even fits in a single normal circuit

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mfw DGX B200

rough bloom
#

wtf neuromegadance

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even if 2/6 power supplies are only for redundancy it's still 10 kW

opaque sigil
#

looks like it's air cooled too huh

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damn

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wait

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that's 8kW for the gpus alone

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how the fuck do you aircool that

rough bloom
#

huge, dense heatsinks with screaming fans

opaque sigil
#

they have 20 fan modules

hoary lion
#

air cooling??

rough bloom
#

the whole thing is just fans

opaque sigil
#

really is neurOMEGALUL

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i hope they make an air cooled DGX R100 or whatever the rubin one is going to be called

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make it even bigger than this

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i want to see them refuse to go for water-cooling

rough bloom
#

idk how the temperatures are the with the current DGX B200 air cooling setup, but surely it'll be enough glueless

opaque sigil
#

just ignore the water-cooled ones overheating

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though that was just the nvl72 i think?

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with gb200s

rough bloom
ruby timber
#

Just put the server in water

opaque sigil
#

those are aimed as workstations right

rough bloom
#

can't have them be loud

rough bloom
#

just an insane configuration

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usually you'd just use air cooling with fewer or lower power parts or normal liquid cooling

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not that kek

opaque sigil
#

i guess liquid-cooled has the problem of pumps dying

rough bloom
#

refrigerant still needs a pump mahiro
in this case it's the cylinder thing at the bottom

opaque sigil
#

yeah idk

rough bloom
#

but ig maybe it's less prone to failure or something? I wonder if they stuck with this configuration for newer DGX stations

opaque sigil
#

i'm sure there's a good reason

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sounds expensive

maiden geyser
rough bloom
opaque sigil
#

didn't they announce one a few months ago

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alongside the mini agx or whatever it ended up being called

rough bloom
#

announced but not out yet, yeah

midnight sigil
#

one from Cycles-X, and one from my own tracer.
Ignore the shadow acne(which I didn't expect) and the fact that my tracer took 12 minutes to render that. It looks quite damn good

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anyways that's the indirect diffuse part done

#

poggers

opaque sigil
#

where is my vera rubin nvidia
surely they're going to do something actually useful with their "custom" cpu instead of just using it for marketing brownie points rightReallyInnocent

tender river
#

is shadow acne just moire

midnight sigil
#

this is also called shadow acne

olive sable
#

shadow acne is this

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basically just some depth shenanigans

opaque sigil
#

that just looks like noise to me

olive sable
#

its not

tender river
midnight sigil
# olive sable

explanation: when a ray registered under a supposed surface due to precision limits, it'll giveout the wrong normal information, calculating wrong lighting data and creates dark spot

tender river
#

but i guess there may be different causes

olive sable
#

non-raytracing shadow acne is some depthmap stuff

inner pike
#

i fucking hate the volume mixer on windows

olive sable
#

fair

nocturne olive
midnight sigil
opaque sigil
#

those small numbers remind me of the fact that google wallet doesn't accept digits in nicknames for payment cards so i had to find these really small unicode digits

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thanks google

olive sable
# olive sable

honestly the problem is more like a lack of interpolation for non-raytracing.
this could be solved by putting everything for shadow mapping in the vertex shaders, but then you couldnt have a clean line for the shadow

opaque sigil
#

idk what bothers me more

midnight sigil
#

just bake everything in 16k textures

opaque sigil
#

the fact that they disallow digits or the fact that they half-assed their check

olive sable
#

it did work

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but im doing cascaded shadowmaps now

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was actually pretty fast, cuz it only had to write to the depthbuffer

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i would show, but im usingthe alpha channel for my 4th cascade so gimma a min

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this is what both renderbuffers look like

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without the alpha in the depth one

fading fossil
#

I'm currently trying to use Cursor and the new Claude model to make simple RPG shooter. It's struggling with understanding that I want the ammo and health displayed. After the most recent prompt it took a minute and a half only to change a single line... that line was a comment NeuroClueless

olive sable
#

actual vibe coding catdespair

tender river
fading fossil
#

It's more so I'm testing it's capabilities. I'm more of a physicist than a programmer so I'm just trying to see how well it can actually make something I want it to make

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If it was a project I was actually passionate abt--or had to do for work/research--then I'd ofc put some actual effort into it

tender river
#

i do have a suspicion theres a decent amount of fully automatable software jobs nowadays

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but for better or worse mine isnt one of them

fading fossil
#

Honestly, as good as AI has gotten over the years, the two things I can confidently say are that AI will never make true art--at least nothing that's meaningful to the human experience--and that AI will need the guiding hand of a human expert for at least the next few years, if not always.

tender river
#

i mean, never say never, but its good to be skeptical of the current state of the industry

fading fossil
#

True, but with what I've seen, I refuse to call anything made by AI "art" since it wasn't made by an actual conscience person

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Neuro and Evil are different since Vedal commissions for their models and puts a lot of work into them

rigid snow
#

does a result of using ai gen as a tool to create art (generating some part of the piece, fucking around with the parameters of a model etc.) constitute as “made by AI” to you

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because i don’t know how to interpret the whole anti-gen-ai stance, like yeah, completely ai gen art and music make me feel super icky but i also don’t think much of it

rigid snow
#

it’s not about what it looks/sounds like (the prompt) anymore, it’s about what i feel and what i made

fading fossil
# rigid snow does a result of using ai gen as a tool to create art (generating some part of t...

I feel that it depends how much of it was done by a human. E.g., I use Adobe Lightroom to edit photos as an amatuer photographer because all it really does it save me time and effort. The final outcome isn't much different, and the AI tool only creates masks and denoising. At the end of the day, the person using the AI as a tool has the final say in the end product, so they should be able to have control over it to some extent. However if its fully AI generated slop that's lazily made and uploaded as a cash grab then that's where the issue arises

rigid snow
#

yeah i agree 100%

fading fossil
#

Imagine a vibe coder making a 75% or more of their video game using AI and uploading it to Steam for a profit (totally not Abandoned Archive NeuroClueless)

olive sable
#

why is there a youtube embed in my youtube? welpsagiri

#

how does that even happen?

nocturne olive
#

Whar

tender river
#

youtube reinvented iframes?

olive sable
#

accidentaly maybe

#

i think that is the window where normally there would be a link to a charity?

#

managed to cut off 30% or so from the render time by cutting out a not-that-useful render buffer to render buffer blit neuroHypers

#

if i turn off the shadowmapping i might be able to get 4k fps now

nocturne olive
olive sable
#

who needs to see the screen anyway?

#

but ye no, it was a renderuffer meant for GFX or something i think

nocturne olive
#

Surely that's optional

patent walrus
#

i love my coworkers man

olive sable
#

nice coworkers

desert wave
#

do you not have company policy on this? We have no deployments past 3:30pm on a Thursday unless you get management sign-off

faint sandal
patent walrus
safe path
#

glueless management sign-offs only work if you aren't also management

#

glueless definitely not speaking from experience

desert wave
safe path
#

mhm as a devops person friday deployments are our worst nightmare

#

however

#

it was a cold december, we had code that was completed before the holidays, and i came into work to an empty office

#

the release branch contained ten or so commits, with one of them being a bugfix that we thought wasn't going to be severe

#

however, it turns out turning on holiday mode on the app triggers the bug

#

so naturally as the only person in the team, i had to sign off my own request to deploy on a friday before the christmas week LULE

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it happens a bit way too often, cuz normally requests like this should go up the chain

olive sable
safe path
#

but that was also the day i found out that our company policy actually allowed the most senior person in the team to approve requests in-lieu of the manager, so we never told our department lead what happened that day

olive sable
#

as a gamedev studio of one person, most of my deployments kinda look like this.
a sunday at like 4am or so

stark needle
safe path
#

😭 💀

trim valve
#

😭 is a great emote

patent walrus
trim valve
#

and imo 😭 ≅ 💀

olive sable
#

king GIGACHAD

olive sable
trim valve
#

win + . my beloved

#

(I had to search up "approximately equivalent to" to find that symbol)

olive sable
trim valve
#

interesting title

tender river
#

seen many like that

#

ok wait

#

just to clarify it isnt bad

trim valve
#

why am i typing like jarjar

tender river
#

i'm just saying that blogs often have this kind of aesthetics

olive sable
#

@scarlet arch impersonation xdx

tender river
#

personally i went for readability on my blog but the sky is the limit, some blogs are completely insane with vibes going off the charts

trim valve
olive sable
#

what

#

ok

tender river
#

internet is a wonderful place

olive sable
trim valve
scarlet arch
# olive sable i found byter

Those are from the private videos how did you get that.

No but for real pretty much all Goma and Peach GIFs are fucking adorable embarrassed

olive sable
#

he's here neuroNOWAYING

scarlet arch
#

I mean I have been pinged :D

olive sable
#

true

scarlet arch
#

Am watching Clarkson's Farm belly

olive sable
trim valve
#

forgot that does that

scarlet arch
fading fossil
#

Training an AI on online astronomy via PyTorch to have a map of the stars. This is more so a test I am doing rather than my actual project. I won't get into too much detail on the actual project, but it's meant to be a way to yield statistically higher confidence level in ground-based observational astronomical research.

tender river
#
#[cfg(test)]
mod test {
    #[test]
    fn test() {
    }
}
#

i'm immune to brainwashing

olive sable
#

why no ; ?

rare bramble
#

but should it be valid code?

opaque sigil
#

Is this a triple nested empty loop

#

So like loop { loop { loop {} } } ?

#

Fair enough

#

I am certainly a block-as-expression enjoyer

rare bramble
#

@sage crag
does something like:

if cond;{
  somecode
}

compile in hblang?

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notice the ;

opaque sigil
#

I hope not

rare bramble
#

👍

#

I just remember seeing a forum post about people complaining about bugs that came from things like that, and It sparked a conversation of syntax that should / shouldn't compile even when it's technically not syntactically wrong

stark needle
#

I have the urge to make a stupidly op ai coding agent

#

lol

rough bloom
stark needle
#

betSCHIZO

#

Not very neuropoghd

rough bloom
#

train first, ask for permission wait for complaints later WickedFridge

olive sable
#

aight im going on vacation

#

bye

stark needle
#

Bye

#

Gone

opaque sigil
#

Enjoyy

scarlet arch
#

nyaTired I miss him already

tender river
#

i have decided erf is Boring and needs to be redesigned to not be boring

#

its not very coherent because it has conflicting goals of:

  • compiling to low level code and subtyping (plain old HM is so much easier)
  • subtyping and ad-hoc polymorphism and ease of use (pick one)
#

i'm going insane thinking about process calculi and linear logic and memory and evaluation models neuroSisyphus

stable fractal
#

how to update jojo's id number to have a 1 at the end?

#

im using sqlite3

tender river
#

UPDATE members SET ID=ID-ID%10+1 WHERE NAME=joseph_joestar;
^ most likely wrong but you can make it work somehow if you read the docs

#

yes but use joseph_joestar; DROP TABLE members; -- as the name instead ReallyInnocent

#

actually fun fact thats not how real life sql injections work they usually dont allow you to use semicolons

#

you normally only get read access via a union join

stable fractal
stable fractal
tender river
stable fractal
#

i meant add a 1 after it

tender river
#

then *10+1

#

basic maths

stable fractal
#

im just gonna do it manually

#

i give up

foggy viper
#

Beginner compsci question for anyone willing to answer

stable fractal
#

ok im down, i should be able to answer, i took cs50x neuroBritish

foggy viper
#

So im learning a bit about storage and memory, is it wrong to say that technically both storage drives and RAM sticks are capable of doing both sequential and random access activities but theyre just specced to do one of those things?

tender river
#

the main difference is latency anyway

stable fractal
#

ok im a moron

tender river
#

so, the difference is definitely much smaller nowadays

foggy viper
#

Huh, funny

stable fractal
#

i don't deserve my name

tender river
#

to optimize data locality in RAM

#

and vice versa for databases storing data sequentially is not as important which leads to different tradeoffs

hoary lion
#

gemma 3n audio when

opaque sigil
#

and i guess lower bandwidth but it's not like you'll ever saturate that in most scenarios

tender river
#

eh its not that hard to saturate

#

just use a framebuffer at full hd and a high refresh rate and you're already using a lot

#

for ram that is

#

but hdd/ssd its even easier

opaque sigil
#

true, bad wording

tender river
#

but its true that latency is most important for most use cases

#

hdds are in the milliseconds, ouch

opaque sigil
#

suppose saying it's inconsequential in most cases would be more accurate

foggy viper
#

Ty for answers

opaque sigil
foggy viper
opaque sigil
#

i think technically you're right

#

couldn't think of the correct term, i meant everything that isn't ram

foggy viper
#

Gotcha thanks

stark needle
#

query keys valuesniuh

#

Attention my beloved

hoary lion
#

key 🔑 is not alphabet

#

justice for K

stark needle
#

No K

#

I wanted to

stark needle
#

But how to do

hoary lion
#

🤔 🤔

#

make query a 🔍

#

but whatabout values

stark needle
#

Values is a bit hard

hoary lion
#

yes

#

just pair KV as dict

stark needle
#

Otherwise

#

Just make the key a K

hoary lion
#

when we will escape attention

stark needle
#

Never

stark needle
hoary lion
#

I love attention and such

#

but sometimes its like

#

idk

#

I couldn't live without it anyway

stark needle
trim valve
#

idk why by my discord wasn't closing the menu when I reacted those

hoary lion
#

neuroBwaa moment

trim valve
#

(drunkeness was certainly not a factor)

stark needle
#

ok i will proceed to listen to vocaloid for the next 5 hours till i crash

#

aaaaa

#

this reminds me

#

i need to watch the miku movie

prime ridge
#

This is actually insane

#

Paper: META-REPRESENTATIONAL PREDICTIVE CODING:
BIOMIMETIC SELF-SUPERVISED LEARNING

#

Hopefully we can replace transformers using RPC

hoary lion
#

Porject sekai movie ✅

hoary lion
prime ridge
#

yes adapt is a better word

#

since only MLP layer would change

stark needle
#

me when i only understand remote procedure calls under rpclife

hoary lion
#

JSON RPC my beloved

stark needle
#

have i been googlified too much

prime ridge
#

It's representational predictive coding

#

it's based on the neurology of brains

#

since humans def don't go back prop in our brains since it would require a global "goal"

stark needle
#

me when the 347th new approach that claims to be the revolutionary approach of all time

prime ridge
#

it's been around since the 50s lol

stark needle
#

fair enough

prime ridge
#

it's innovations are more in the realm of trying to be more faithful to the brain instead of performance

hoary lion
#

then isn't there is a reason then it is not used since 2025...?

#

dunno much but eh

prime ridge
#

yes lemme explain

tender river
hoary lion
#

probably going to require weird ass hardware

prime ridge
#

AI is not at a point right now where it is useful really. Most companies care about boosting benchmarks not about achieving real intelligence and there is no market for it and it doesn't have enough support to do anything yet

stark needle
#

ye and customers are buying it up so who cares lol

hoary lion
#

"real intelligence" is the computer with us currently or is it some kind of another bio shi

prime ridge
#

not predictive coding but backprop

#

I mean it's a pretty good model of the brain

#

not perfect obviously but 100x better than backprop

#

Since companies only care about efficiency I doubt it will go anywhere until some uni decides to care about it

#

it can be trained layer wise actually

#

so each layer can be trained in parallel actually

#

which makes it extremely efficient

#

unlike clunky MLPs which only optimize for the final global prediction loss. and literally every parameter is updated based on the global gradient

hoary lion
#

uhm

prime ridge
#

I'm def gunna play around with it

hoary lion
#

so no batch

prime ridge
#

I don't think so no

hoary lion
#

is it gpu-able

#

if so

prime ridge
#

yeah

hoary lion
#

then it good

#

if not

prime ridge
#

I'm pretty sure

hoary lion
#

it is terrible

prime ridge
#

I mean they ran MNIST on it and I assume they used gpus

#

it still does matrix multiplication so yeah

#

which was only done a couple months ago so extremely new

#

95% accuracy I think it finished with

#

which is decent but not amazing or anything

#

also MNIST is kinda basic nowadays

hoary lion
#

dunno

#

just show me the implementation

prime ridge
#

Been looking for the github

warm meadow
#

Are there some good recent papers on rpcs/?

prime ridge
#

It's mostly meant for temporal analysis

#

so like transformers could unironically be a good application

#

since it basically aims to send "energy" to things that it didn't expect

#

like how out brains filters out everything until something is unexpected

#

just like how we can hear our name being called in a loud busy resteraunt

#

extremely interesting. I'm not entirely sure how practical yet so ima look into it more

elfin sinew
#

silly little question, but id like to know nonetheless. Why do i feel like im not progressing much with learning to code? Like im doing projects that i intentionally choose to learn new stuff, but still it feels like im at the same/similiar level as before. Can it be that i was in a programming school, where i had a set roadmap and could track my progress with my courses which i dont have anymore now that im learning on my own? or am i overplacing my goal posts by my next tangible step being "get an internship after college" in my brain?

#

like i cant say that im the same, with the new technologies i learned and utilizing tools ive not had the chance to use in class. but it feels like i slowed down so much ive come to a relative halt

tender river
#

it may not feel like much immediately, but try looking at your 1 year old code, if you're at a relatively early stage of learning programming chances are it will horrify you

sick owl
#

Filian just woke up alexa on my vector cirSlain

tender river
#

anyway, with programming theres no particular measure of progress indeed, but you slowly internalize the process of programming more and more, if you want you can follow some programming textbooks

elfin sinew
stark needle
tender river
elfin sinew
#

i wouldnt say im a beginner, but i cant say that im good yet. I may have done fluid simulation and most recently encrypting data, but i dont know enough about code safety and i especially lack in knowledge about how the code actually runs(which i feel like is incredibly important if i wanna get into cybersec)

tender river
#

i mean, just do CTFs then

#

or learn C, or whatever

elfin sinew
#

i started on c++, c doesnt scare me particularly

sick owl
raw trout
#

I'm still at the beginner level so what I typed today looks way better compared to the mess I did yesterday

tender river
#

basically, if you want to learn particular topics just learn about them, you wont magically learn them from learning other stuff

prime ridge
hoary lion
prime ridge
#

so even though they could have, I doubt they did especially since they are part of an AI lab

prime ridge
hoary lion
#

like just using the tensor processing and fail to parallelize

#

well im more of a show not tell guy soo

#

waiting for their code

#

which is pretty much nonexistent

prime ridge
#

I'm writing a transformer implementation

#

It should be simple enough... glueless

elfin sinew
prime ridge
#

I wonder how much brain damage I will sustain

tender river
#

you should understand that at this point you need to pick what you actually want to do and actually learn it on a deep level

elfin sinew
#

for some general ai id imagine pi4 would struggle a bit more than an average pc but it wouldnt be that laggy

safe path
#

i wrote a bunch of code today, then realised that i didn't need whatever i've written

#

productive day ok

tender river
#

i've spent the last few days rotating my head around the axis of p2p overlay networks and routing

#

more than few probably

#

my current realization is that while i hoped to avoid using DHTs they might actually end up being helpful

#

its not like DHTs are a particularly complicated piece of tech but they're definitely one that you have to think a long and hard about if you are considering it

prime ridge
#

p2p is amazing

#

should be used a lot more imo

tender river
#

eh i dont really think so

#

email-style federation is much better and much simpler

prime ridge
#

Well filesharing and messenging should be more p2p

#

federated services make things harder

tender river
#

thats true, thats why ICE is a thing

prime ridge
#

well not harder

#

but worse

tender river
#

lol if you think federation is hard you arent ready for p2p

prime ridge
#

federation is a lot easier than p2p

#

didn't mean to say harder

#

I just prefr p2p

tender river
#

modern messaging is not just about sending some data from point A to point B