programming

[olive sable]

brother, they are all gonna be a pain
thats how location mapping works

[prime ridge]

LiDAR better than ultrasonics

[vestal forge]

but cost

[prime ridge]

true

[olive sable]

first cheap sonar sensor i could find was 10 bucks and goes 254inches far, so about 6m in good units

[vestal forge]

profile of the drone is approx. 10in x 10in x 2in

*currently

[olive sable]

[vestal forge]

that would actually be perfect, mind throwing me name of what you found?

[olive sable]

High Performance Sonar Module LV-MaxSonar-EZ0 Maxbotix

its just the first one i found, you might find better ones

[vestal forge]

oh yeah, size, price, and range is all what I was looking for

thanks sam!

[olive sable]

no problem

this weird function:
viewcorners = np.einsum("lj, jk -> lk" ,frustumcorners, lightview)
is apparently a lot faster than
viewcorners = frustumcorners @ lightview

[opaque sigil]

huh

i'd expect the opposite if anything

[olive sable]

lemme retime

[opaque sigil]

https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2025-May/343646.html ffmpeg my beloved, 1600 lines of assembly

[olive sable]

error in the timer

its indeed slower

[opaque sigil]

how much? i wonder

[olive sable]

top one has
2.7643877000009525
bottom one has
1.5414218000005349

seconds/milion exe

[opaque sigil]

damn

guess having to parse the string every will do that

[olive sable]

i honestly dont know anymore how the performance botlleneck works

when zooming out it gets slower, makes sense, more is being rendered.
until suddenly you get a lot more performance

the performance to zoom graph is a curve

[runic pulsar]

today I install gentoo on my laptop. wish me luck

[olive sable]

goodluck

[vestal forge]

I'm not a big programmer person but that would make sense to me, when it comes into view it has to create the terrain, but once the terrain is created it's stored in RAM and way quicker to reference than to recreate every time

[olive sable]

all of the terrain is already stored in vram

[vestal forge]

idk if that makes any sense, a thought would be if maybe you can keep it loaded for a period of time even if it's out of view, so if you're switching back and forth quickly of zoomed in and zoomed out

[vestal forge]

nvm then :)

I only know basics of programming, so not sure then, sorry

[olive sable]

im using a heightmap

[olive sable]

nah no prob

you were jsut trying to help

[vestal forge]

what I described makes sense in my head of the speed being a curve

maybe the vram isn't actually storing it properly?

[olive sable]

nah it should be fine

its not the terrain being the issue even

[vestal forge]

aight, I wish u luck

the ultrasonic sensors ended up being exactly what I was looking for, I just ordered 10 of a different brand :)

[olive sable]

[vestal forge]

as well as some extra wire 'cause I don't have the small enough size on hand

there was 1 that the sensor is about half the range, roughly 3m, but each costs about 3$ apiece, as well as the flight controller I have can already work with it

more than enough for what I need, only downside is I'd have to script it in Lua and I am not familiar with Lua

a problem for next weekend when they come in :)

[olive sable]

rip lua

[opaque sigil]

i'm currently going through linux from scratch book

[amber fractal]

People who main LFS should be feared

[olive sable]

lfs?

[amber fractal]

Linux From Scratch

[olive sable]

ah

i can see the vision

[amber fractal]

I'll make my own distro mindset

[olive sable]

il make my own game-engine
ill make my own everything

[opaque sigil]

i always forget just how many tests glibc has

[olive sable]

Aight

Gn guys

[jagged turtle]

bro

why does ubuntu live server take 10 years to setup

[hoary lion]

not live

[prime ridge]

RIP centos 😭

[hoary lion]

too many os's

[fleet dust]

I fucking hate kernel anti cheat

fucking, GTA V and its stupid BattleEye anti cheat crashed and somehow took out my PC's ethernet

Like my ethernet controller is just dead I clean reinstalled Windows and it still shows "not connected" over ethernet wtf

[faint sandal]

that has nothing to do with kernel anticheat - your controller either works or doesn't

[quiet finch]

"What is written on Twitch as 'PC Specs?' refers to the Neuro runtime environment, or the spatial environment that Neuro uses to operate?"

[faint sandal]

not "not connected"

[quiet finch]

True dude

I did just that—in fact, there was once when I wanted a refund, but ultimately I found it was just the PCIe interface that was dirty

[fleet dust]

It crashed and my ethernet stopped working

the ethernet that has worked fine for literal years

[jagged turtle]

you should probably check your router then

or whatever

[fleet dust]

And then GTA V crashes my PC and upon reboot it no longer works

Router is fine

Cable is fine

I plug the cable into my laptop it instantly connects to the ethernet

I plug it into my desktop, nothing

dead

[fleet dust]

And yet here I am, with Device Manager saying "This device is working" and not being able to connect to my network via ethernet

[jagged turtle]

might have been a limit from your ISP?

[fleet dust]

My ISP doesnt impose any limits

[jagged turtle]

huh

maybe try a different cable?

[fleet dust]

I think simply, dont give dumb useless anti cheats kernal level access

it doesnt stop cheating, fun fact

the cable is fine

[jagged turtle]

why should anticheats need kernel level access

[fleet dust]

IDK but they do

BattleEye anticheat has kernal access

[jagged turtle]

that's crazy wtf

[fleet dust]

supposedly, to stop cheating because it can see everything running on the PC and in theory see any cheat programs running

In practice that lasted about a week until people made direct memory access hardware and can just insert modified code directly into system memory without Windows noticing

Hence why Im fairly positive thats what bricked my ethernet, since BattleEye was running inside the Windows kernal when it crashed its possible it broke something

[jagged turtle]

uninstall the game and try again

if it works you have something to complain about

[fleet dust]

Why my ethernet controller still wont work after a complete wipe and re-install of Windows I have no clue

[jagged turtle]

oh

[real sierra]

i liked this video https://youtu.be/lJYufx0bfpw

[fleet dust]

Yeah its properly messed up and I have no idea how to fix it

[tawny cedar]

guys

I tried making chat gpt write a code

I can't send images for some reason so I'll just paste what it said

ETA: About 2–3 more hours for a fully tested, install-ready .mcpack. I’ll ping you right here as soon as it’s ready to download. Want me to notify you via email or another method too?

Is this normal?

[tight tinsel]

ahh question

[amber fractal]

The urge to reply "it has been an hour how is it coming along"

[fleet dust]

I re-flashed my BIOS and my ethernet is still not working :l

ugh

last ditch effort to see if its actually truely dead Ill boot a linux live USB and see if that can connect over ethernet

Otherwise I guess Im buying a new NIC and never touching GTA V again

[gray mountain]

Google’s AlphaEvolve Breaks a 56-Year Barrier

---

AlphaEvolve, Google DeepMind’s new evolutionary coding agent, has made history by solving a matrix multiplication problem that has stumped researchers for over half a century. It discovered an algorithm that multiplies two 4x4 complex matrices using only 48 multiplications, beating the long-held record of 49.

This isn’t just academic — faster matrix multiplication can lead to faster computing hardware and major breakthroughs in AI performance itself. AlphaEvolve evolves its own code using LLMs, testing and improving it through a self-feedback loop. It’s already rediscovered 75% of known best solutions in geometry and combinatorics problems — and improved on 20% of them.

DeepMind’s CEO says that solving intelligence means we can solve everything — including every disease — within the next decade.

[fleet dust]

Ah the double edge sword of AI

On one hand, people are losing jobs to it, which is not a good thing right now

On the other hand, the ability of AI to just take massive amounts of data and find patterns and draw conclusions from insanely massive amounts of information could be a game changer in certain fields

Also our beloved AI streamers are also a perk

[hoary lion]

Old news

We had it two days ago

Personally don't know because it seems a infinite loop till get verifiable goals achieved

Which means it inherently can only be used on tasks that GRPO could be used to train on

Code, math and such, but not other tasks

[gray mountain]

Ok

[ruby timber]

G'morning

[hoary lion]

good morning stella

[ruby timber]

Hi hyper!

[scarlet arch]

gooood morning #programming

[dense cosmos]

finished the forward pass of my model

now to implement NEAT

[fast pagoda]

good evenign

[dense fractal]

Self-improving AI is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X37tgx0ngQE

[nocturne olive]

If it's an LLM, who cares

[amber fractal]

I honestly couldn't care less about "assistant" style LLMs.

[unkempt citrus]

Its not even assistant style

its just if generates its own maths and coding problems then tests them, then solves them

Which is limited to maths and coding first of all

and is also very expensive because of how much retraining you'll need to do

And while it works, generating your own training data, even if it works for a while, is the definition of a positive feedback loop

Also self improving AIs have existed since the 1960s in genetic algorithms

[nocturne olive]

If you want actually functional self improving AI, you gotta get with the times and give up on transformers

[jagged turtle]

anyone have recommendations on how to explain to your parents that no, you cannot just ask ai to explain to you the assignment and then it'll just stick to your brain

because I'm starting to get sick of having to explain them that

[amber fractal]

Learning only works if your the one doing it, and AI can't even manage that as it has no soul.

[jagged turtle]

unfortunately need something better than that

[amber fractal]

I get the approrach they are trying, and in certian cases it can work. That is my issue with your parent's opinion as it can generally work if used correctly.

[grizzled viper]

The self improvement will literally 'wow look at this i printed a 2'

[dense fractal]

you have not even seen the video or understand it

[amber fractal]

All one can say is "That learning style doesn't work for me". Unless another chatter wants to go down the misinfomation route.

[jagged turtle]

I have the same opinion that learning sticks if you do it yourself

[amber fractal]

The issue is that it depends on the person

[jagged turtle]

luckily I got them to understand (for now) that if I'm gonna learn something the most I should use AI for is asking "hey, explain this concept to me" AFTER I give it a try myself

[amber fractal]

Some can learn from example, some can't. That is the line you'll have to defend

[jagged turtle]

right

thanks for the advice :D

[amber fractal]

No problem

[trim valve]

idk I just don't trust llms to tell the truth

[dense cosmos]

why do you think so?

[trim valve]

and that makes them very hard to learn from

[dense cosmos]

I mean, I'm not a transformer fanboy but I'm curious

[noble zodiac]

llms are great at gaslighting you into believing that you know something. But take it away again and ask a person to reproduce it on their own and odds are they will fail horribly

[amber fractal]

Seems like bred went with it, that was fast

[nocturne olive]

Because transformers kinda just sucks for dynamic models, it's only really good for when the model doesn't have to adapt on the fly
I've also seen other much more successful non-transformer AIs that can actually improve over time on their own

[dense cosmos]

do you have any sources for that?

[nocturne olive]

Nothing public really exists outside of deep on Discord, the architecture is someone's private one

[dense cosmos]

I mean on "transformers kinda just sucks for dynamic models"

that sounds kinda interesting if so

[amber fractal]

Honestly I've always thought it is because they eventually freeze

[nocturne olive]

Maybe could explain better

[amber fractal]

have to do so to release the model

[nocturne olive]

It has to do with overfitting though I believe

[dense cosmos]

if I'm to guess, based on my current knowledge on llms (which use transformers), the issue is that they get their performance by memorisation

like a kinda fuzzy knowledge base

[unique bay]

hello

[dense cosmos]

which isn't a substitute for reasoning

anyways back to my NEAT implementation

[stark needle]

[noble zodiac]

if clippy yells at me one more time for not using first() I'm gonna lose it

[scarlet arch]

You know it's right tho

[noble zodiac]

if thats all I want, sure, if I also want the second element it looks both confusing and ugly

add second, third, fourth and maybe we can talk about it

[scarlet arch]

There's two moments with clippy and kind of no in between:

Clippy: do this instead
Response 1: ya know, I hate you for it, but you're right. I should be ashamed I didn't see it myself
Response 2: the fuck are you talking about. Is this a nursery lint?

[noble zodiac]

but having first() and get(1) next to eachother makes zero sense

[scarlet arch]

Why not do get(0..=1) then

And then you can deconstruct the given slice by assigning it to an array of the right size with named variables

[noble zodiac]

because I want to match on the individual elements

[scarlet arch]

I guess I'd need to see the code haha

But this is a classic case of slapping an expect on it and forget about it

[noble zodiac]

get(0..=1) wouldn't tell me which element is not present in case of a None

might be second, first or both

[scarlet arch]

You can match the slice

[noble zodiac]

the slice is within the option

[scarlet arch]

I'd give example code but I'm on my phone

Okay now I'm even more confused :D

[noble zodiac]

both [1].get(0..=2) and [1, 2].get(0..=2) just returns None. So you cannot tell whether one or two elements are missing

[scarlet arch]

And what about matching the slice on [first, second, ..] or whatever that syntax was?

And if the things inside are options then you can add that to the match pattern too

Again I struggle to understand how the data you want to match looks like :D

[noble zodiac]

anyway, point being that it sucks to use first when second doesnt exit

[scarlet arch]

I mean true, but what I was trying to say was that if there're potentially more elements, there're other ways of retrieving them

[noble zodiac]

yea you might be right there

this code base is.... matching hell

[scarlet arch]

[noble zodiac]

[scarlet arch]

Ah, building macros?

[noble zodiac]

its a lisp interpreter

[scarlet arch]

Ah

[noble zodiac]

the chain of events that got me here is insane

[scarlet arch]

Gonna take a shower and be back in half an hour, but do explain if you want to :D

[remote gate]

Hello I'm new Here

Hahah Lol

Tt

Ty

Oh you did?

Nice

Wrong sever

Sorry!

[jagged turtle]

I finally got SSH working on my VM in VirtualBox so I can launch an instance of Visual Studio Code on it but it won't let me access my host machine's ports inside the VM

[opaque sigil]

[prime plaza]

where do I actually download tkinter? idk why but nowhere on youtube says how to download it and just imports it into pycharm instead

[opaque sigil]

Uhh, it should come with python already

[prime plaza]

when I try to run it it says "[Errno 2] No such file or directory"

[opaque sigil]

wdym run, it's a library

[prime plaza]

well I import it into pycharm as a command, and when I run the code it gives me that error

either way, I don't have it

[opaque sigil]

Hmm, I haven't used pycharm in years so I don't think I can really help with that then

[prime plaza]

Damn.

[opaque sigil]

You must have the module though, it's literally part of the python release

Maybe it fails to find the underlying implementation idk

Who knows

Is there more to the error than just that one line?

[prime plaza]

this is what I'm given

[opaque sigil]

Oh it just tried to run a file in your project that doesn't exist

Interesting

Sounds like something pycharm specific then

[prime plaza]

[midnight sigil]

I don't even know how tf pointers work in C/C++, now I'm going to recreate memory pointers/address in Blender's native geometry nodes

[stark needle]

pointers are just references

[midnight sigil]

ye I know

by how they work I mean their fundamental basics

in the assembly level

[stark needle]

fair enough

i will assume it stores the 64bit address somewhere

[midnight sigil]

ye

in ram

[opaque sigil]

You just pass around the address and load it from memory as needed

[hoary lion]

gm

[olive sable]

Goodmorning #programming

[scarlet arch]

[trim valve]

this both sounds cursed and very possible

but like, why?

yeah

its the "in blender geometry nodes" part that gets me

the main issue I have with the concept is you'd probably only have read access

actually I guess you have named attributes now

actually yeah those could work as cursed pointers

my beloved

(I didn't even realise this would be possible ngl)

[scarlet arch]

Maybe... call it selection...

[hoary lion]

[scarlet arch]

Why does that pic lose more and more pixels

[dense cosmos]

gon

[midnight sigil]

it is very possible, I already have a theory on communication protocols between objects(node trees) based on a clock(simulation zone, which makes every frame a "step" or "tick"). Every tick, a centered global storage unit will check if other objects requested to store something(by checking if any named attributes have "Transfer" on "1"), then the center unit stores it, calls an async execution for the original object to delete those transferred attributes(happens on the next tick), use the above method to transfer the start address(vertex index) to another global address object which maps IDs(vertex index) to other addresses.

[trim valve]

my only real question is why at this point

[midnight sigil]

to make raytracer in raytracer but in 3D space

for my idea to work, I need objects to be communicating for their normals, hit points and hit angles, etc. So

[trim valve]

idk maybe

I feel like its a bit overcomplicated but I also have no idea what your specific goals are

[midnight sigil]

I mean, making a communication protocol is the first thing and the only thing I come up with on this issue. If there's something simpler out there, I'll just accept the fate that I wasted 2 days on brainstorming

[trim valve]

I don't have much geonodes experience

[midnight sigil]

geometry nodes seem to be running in parallel, so tick-based executions are needed for async and stepped stuff. It's annoying with the limitation as well

at this point I'm just trying to burn my time

and possibly to farm some videos on youtube

[trim valve]

honestly I'm pretty confident whatever you're trying to do would work with semi-regular geonodes

[noble zodiac]

sometimes you just want to do something because you can

[trim valve]

there's "doing something because you can" and "doing something because you didn't realise there was a different way"

[noble zodiac]

https://suberic.net/~dmm/projects/mystical/README.html

[midnight sigil]

LMAO using this to represent program flows will be crazy

[opaque sigil]

i love it

[stark needle]

chat

just what we needed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwfciT0YOwg

local suno

mass slop generation

and mass song scraping now

[noble zodiac]

why would I want to listen to ai music?

[stark needle]

mass generated

why do artists still exist

ai is the future

[hoary lion]

chat

should I support linux for desktop application in flutter

this is a very important question

[trim valve]

depends, what's the project and how much work is it to support it

[scarlet arch]

that preview image gives me cancer

[scarlet arch]

Linux users usually give you the best bug reports :D

[hoary lion]

supporting linux will most likely give bug

classic packages

[midnight sigil]

*The first element of the table is the size of the array

[scarlet arch]

I read something about this a while ago. Company makes a thing available on linux and their bug reports skyrocketed. but turns out about 95% of the reports weren't related to linux issues itself

so if you can deal with the remaining 5%, it's probably worth it

[hoary lion]

[stark needle]

ok well

looks like

my approach is infeasible

but works

[scarlet arch]

what

[stark needle]

for memory

[scarlet arch]

do explain :o

[stark needle]

so i need to convert each example into it's KV cache representation

and that is 3gb

for each example

[hoary lion]

large ahh

[stark needle]

and i need ~640K of these

[hoary lion]

that's probably going to take more than my entire life's internet data received times 10

[scarlet arch]

uuuuh... opposite of ram disk and then SSD goes brr?

oh right mmap

oh

its 1.92 petabytes

nevermind

[dense cosmos]

should I do only one mutation per generation? or a variable amount?

I wonder

[trim valve]

so what make it infeasible

[dense cosmos]

rn I'm thinking reroll for chance of extra mutation

[scarlet arch]

usually if you mutate them all you have a chance of collapse. but if you keep around k top phenotypes you should be fine

[dense cosmos]

I'm following the NEAT paper

[scarlet arch]

oh you meant several mutations on a single genome

[dense cosmos]

kinda

[dense cosmos]

yeah

[scarlet arch]

yeah have you checked the date it came out? we've learned a bit since then

[dense cosmos]

hahaha

[scarlet arch]

I only read the paper and then implemented my own genetic algorithm from what I understand

and it works quite well

[dense cosmos]

nice

[scarlet arch]

can send you a link if you want to check it out

[dense cosmos]

sure, why not

[scarlet arch]

haven't touched it in a while

[dense cosmos]

what are the modern advancements anyways

I know of HyperNeat

and Neat with self attention

[scarlet arch]

https://gitlab.com/bit-refined/meiosis

I mostly used it for neuroevolution, but it's written in a way to support generic genomes and phenotypes

how you evaluate fitness is still up to you

[dense cosmos]

rust, huh

[scarlet arch]

:D

[stark needle]

i would need a gazillion terabytes

[scarlet arch]

[dense cosmos]

    void EvaluateGeneration(Task& task) {
        for (auto& s : species_population) {
            for (auto& g : s.genomes) {
                g.fitness = task.Evaluate(g) / s.genomes.size();
            }
        }
    }

[trim valve]

skill issue just get more memory

[dense cosmos]

download more ram

[scarlet arch]

I recommend checking out the examples at first

gives a good insight into how I designed this

[dense cosmos]

will do

[scarlet arch]

cause I usually write the stuff I wanna do first, and then build my API around that

[dense cosmos]

based

I kinda do that too

not consistently, though

[scarlet arch]

struct Algae {
    age: usize,
    // Our little algae has no other properties apart from its "brain" that require genetic encoding,
    // so we can use the recurrent phenotype directly.
    brain: Network<4, 5, f64, Recurrent<f64>>,
    energy: f64,
    genotype: NetworkGenotype<4, 5, f64, RecurrentType>,
}

Ah yes, algae

but you can see, even the neural nets I implemented are generic over the weight type

[stark needle]

nvidia

[dense cosmos]

smart

mine are hardcoded rn

I'll first test it before I make it generic

[scarlet arch]

yeah way smarter

the issues I ran into were fun tho. "oh this is generic, guess I need yet another trait..."

[stark needle]

Sometimes i just read clickbaity news for the funny comments

[dense cosmos]

what are traits, rust thing?

[scarlet arch]

eeh.. interfaces?

[dense cosmos]

ah

[scarlet arch]

what are the comments on it?

[dense cosmos]

that's a lot of ::

[scarlet arch]

[dense cosmos]

I think I'll put the project down for today

I'm starting to go delulu

tomorrow!

it shall be continued

made good progress though

[scarlet arch]

[stark needle]

neur

[scarlet arch]

konii is slowly gathering fingerprinting data of us

[noble zodiac]

if you want the ultimate programmer why do you sample us

the ultimate failure

[trim valve]

sounds like the ideal programming assistant

[scarlet arch]

rubber ducky assistant. just never have it answer

[trim valve]

true

idk programmers are pretty good rubber ducks, even if they don't understand what you've written they can look at it an go "what does this do" and suddenly you realise you're stupid

[prime ridge]

Literally me yesterday

[scarlet arch]

I usually explain the issue to a coworker and that resolves it without them even having a chance to talk back

[prime ridge]

Yep

Usually because I overcomplicated it

[trim valve]

yeah that's one option

occasionally I manage to get some words in whilst getting used as a rubber duck

[prime ridge]

Also does anybody know how to prevent the kernel from always killing my processes?

It always complains about my 20gb ram usage and kills it

[noble zodiac]

use less ram

[prime ridge]

🤯

[scarlet arch]

I mean it just means you ran out of ram. not a lot you can do but use less

[trim valve]

buy more ram

[prime ridge]

I didn't run out tho

had plenty of swap left

[vestal forge]

download more ram

[prime ridge]

that is what swap is

I mean opening 8gb of raw text shouldn't be THAT bad

[trim valve]

hm

[scarlet arch]

pretty sure the kernel doesn't consider swap when triggering OOM

cause it likely couldn't switch stuff to swap before RAM filled up

[prime ridge]

That's pretty stupid

[scarlet arch]

no it's rather smart because swap is very slow compared to ram

[prime ridge]

No yes ofc. But if it's going to basically die then it shouldn't care

causing a crash is a lot worse than slow archive data

[trim valve]

idk is there anything in the system logs about why it was killed

[prime ridge]

kernel SIGKILLED it

[trim valve]

idr how much info there actually is

[scarlet arch]

likely just lists the process that was killed and thats it

[prime ridge]

I think it's memory leaking 😂

[trim valve]

what makes it condescending

[prime ridge]

it's not closing the files

[scarlet arch]

yeah, process uses too much, kernel kills it in its entirety. managing assigned memory efficiently is on the program. kernel doesn't give a fuck what you do with the memory unless it runs out of physical space.

[trim valve]

give it googly eyes

[prime ridge]

Yes ik

[scarlet arch]

you should see my solution from before I had a real fan haha

[prime ridge]

oh im kinda dumb it's loading a lot more than 8gb of text... it's loading like 40gb

[trim valve]

why not both

even better

[trim valve]

I assume that's ooming because it can't get 40GB of contiguous memory?

[prime ridge]

I got 32gb swap and 16gb of physical

[scarlet arch]

I put the air intake into a cool room and pumped it into hot rooms

[trim valve]

though I thought that would be a allocation issue not an oom killer one

[prime ridge]

my system only uses like 2gb max for other processes

[prime ridge]

cruel

[trim valve]

😔

[prime ridge]

Fs

[scarlet arch]

you could display all sorts of things on its body because its made up of pixels :D

[vestal forge]

get 41gb of ram, simple

[trim valve]

redeems to "hack" the display

[scarlet arch]

:D

I mean could be set things like the redeem idea bred has

not "arbitrary user input"

[prime ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[trim valve]

that's pretty cool looking

[prime ridge]

is that RGB or BGR 🤔

[trim valve]

looking at the gaps rgb

[prime ridge]

could be upside down tho

good to know

[opaque sigil]

Are you sure that's enough? Loading 40gb can and will take more than 40gb

[prime ridge]

It's worked before just randomly

[trim valve]

just mmap the whole file

[prime ridge]

sometimes it won't, sometimes it will

[opaque sigil]

Unironically yes

[prime ridge]

probably due to external memory usage from the os

[opaque sigil]

Add more swap just in case

[hoary lion]

white - cyan
blue blue
blueish cyan

[prime ridge]

It's partitioned on a full drive

atp all I can do is pray that my system doesn't decide to start caching everthing into ram or something idk

[vestal forge]

remind yourself that you're not a fish

[prime ridge]

it works 100% of the time 50% of them time

[opaque sigil]

[vestal forge]

then suffer >:c

[scarlet arch]

this should help

[noble zodiac]

There are many situations in the kernel that won't allow it to sleep in order to swap memory for itself. If you don't have any direct memory available at that point the OOM will kill something no matter how free your swap is

[scarlet arch]

is very cute emoji I don't see the issue :D

[opaque sigil]

Ah so basically if the kernel can't get enough memory for itself then you get killed?

[noble zodiac]

yea

[scarlet arch]

yes

[vestal forge]

this programming business sounds very violent ;-;

[scarlet arch]

and thanks to virtual memory your program can allocate terabytes of memory cough electron cough, but only when physical memory becomes too little to continue operating the kernel will it start killing the biggest users of memory to sacrifice the minimal amount of programs

[trim valve]

[opaque sigil]

I love abusing virtual memory for my arenas

[scarlet arch]

haha in my mind I heard the "correct answer" sound neuro can make when those emojis popped up hahaha

[noble zodiac]

you can change oom_score_adj to try to discourage the kernel from killing your process but then all best are off whats going to die instead

[scarlet arch]

luckily it also considers process trees, or else systemd being killed would be very bad :D

[trim valve]

imo we should consider killing the kernel before my processes

what good is the kernel anyways

[scarlet arch]

surely that'll go great

[noble zodiac]

do you even live if you never triggered a triple fault

(I have its not fun)

[scarlet arch]

never heard of that one

what is it

[noble zodiac]

On the x86 computer architecture, a triple fault is a special kind of exception generated by the CPU when an exception occurs while the CPU is trying to invoke the double fault exception handler, which itself handles exceptions occurring while trying to invoke a regular exception handler.

[scarlet arch]

so its exceptions all the way down

[trim valve]

where is my quadrouple fault handler

[noble zodiac]

thats when your cpu just catches on fire

[trim valve]

I am the quadrouple fault handler

how did you actually make this I'm mildly curious now

ic

I couldn't tell if it was a render or simulation or something, but I was just impressed by its representation of the blooming in the blues

but if its based off a real image then it makes sense that the blues look like they have real bloom

at some point I kinda want to check if discord supports non-srgb colour profiles for profile pictures

iirc slack allowed hdr emojis at one point

https://vxtwitter.com/cramforce/status/1914712851920327108

Malte Ubl (@cramforce)

I need to share that @matheusfrndes has unearthed the most cursed knowledge

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 22, 2025, 4:08 PM

my beloved

[scarlet arch]

what the fuck

I need this, now

if you don't have HDR enabled, do the two emojis look the same?

[trim valve]

probably

[scarlet arch]

Cause it seems to work on my end

but it just looks deep fried

[trim valve]

it really depends on how your system and browser stack handles colour

I think that filter stack is deepfrying it a little

[scarlet arch]

ah

oh well

very funny tho

[trim valve]

lemme check

god I love wget when you're downloading tiny files

yes surely I am downloading at 200MB/s

[scarlet arch]

[trim valve]

(thank you chat for giving me a distraction from revision once again)

[trim valve]

first image might be less deepfried

well

second now

thanks discord

for some reason djv refuses to open those, only my browser will

[scarlet arch]

doesn't even display

[trim valve]

download the image and drag it into your browser

[scarlet arch]

looks normal in my browser

[trim valve]

I was gonna say it looked weird in mine but its probably getting messed up somewhere in the remote desktop pipeline

[trim valve]

which browser / are you using hdr?

[scarlet arch]

Orig looks washed, alt looks normal haha

[scarlet arch]

firefox and yes HDR is enabled

[trim valve]

ah

[scarlet arch]

I even have the brightness up

[trim valve]

ok as much as I love firefox anything to do with colour is not a good idea

😭

oh god hdr on linux too

[scarlet arch]

haha :D

[hoary lion]

istg never touching windows related stuff
not that OS, but just like app window

[trim valve]

yeah best wishes

[scarlet arch]

I mean, works for me

[trim valve]

trust me windows is actually really sane when it comes to colour in my experience

[hoary lion]

nah not the OS mb

[trim valve]

oic

[hoary lion]

it's just like app windows

[trim valve]

just never use anything other than standard srgb for images and you'll be fine

[hoary lion]

there are so many exceptional cases that I am not able to handle

but anyway it kinda works

[scarlet arch]

Look at the quality of the background image. Looks so good

oh camera is shit apparently

[trim valve]

oh wait for clarity the _orig one is the one from the article

[scarlet arch]

oh well :D

[trim valve]

not the unmodified image

[scarlet arch]

ah

well, doesnt matter. :P

[trim valve]

ngl I also forgot that was how I did it

my one braincell is not present currently

[scarlet arch]

also I noticed that HDR over HDMI looks different than over display port

but oh well :D

[trim valve]

😭

classic colour handling

[hoary lion]

ima just rest for a bit and turn on unity

[trim valve]

back to trying to listen to useless lectures again

(I wish I was exaggerating)

[scarlet arch]

what is this, tiktok?

[trim valve]

yeah they showed us at least 3 videos like that in the lecture

[rare bridge]

anyone knowlegable about linux here currently?

[trim valve]

how knowlegable are we talking

[rare bridge]

enough to answer wtf is going on here

[inner pike]

Bingo not working an hour before stream

[rare bridge]

nothing is working an hour before stream on my end

[inner pike]

[rare bridge]

ah

maybe being connected to the internet would help

[noble zodiac]

welp, theres your answer

[hoary lion]

[rare bridge]

now to figure out how i can ssh into it without it being able to ping google.com

[inner pike]

[trim valve]

dns borked?

wait no it resolved google.com

[rare bridge]

that's even better, it's dns resolving but not sending network traffic

which is very weird

[trim valve]

[rare bridge]

because dns itself is network traffic

[noble zodiac]

but is the dns in the local network or external

maybe check if the routes are okay

[trim valve]

restart the machine and pray it comes back up

[rare bridge]

surely a reboot will fix it

[trim valve]

(I have made this mistake many times when remote desktopped)

[rare bridge]

it's almost like a reboot broke this to begin with

[rough bloom]

looks like it's a Docker container?
might be Docker messing with the firewall then

[rare bridge]

docker could be messing with the firewall, true

[trim valve]

what's your host os?

[rare bridge]

fedora i think?

[trim valve]

ic

[noble zodiac]

oh god

[rare bridge]

that's my first mistake

solution is to burn it down

[trim valve]

no idea how fedora works ngl

[rare bridge]

barely

[trim valve]

[noble zodiac]

fedora uses firewalld and docker just does random nftables shit on top of it. It can lead to..... interesting situations

[rare bridge]

wait i should check selinux to see if it enabled itself

[scarlet arch]

if routing goes down while you were connected, usually you can stay logged in

logging out and back in is gonna be an issue tho

[noble zodiac]

podman works better on redhat systems since its a redhat product and basically a dropin replacement for docker

[rough bloom]

yeah, Docker is notorious for fucking up firewall configurations in various ways
idk how to fix it though, I haven't encountered it in quite a while and I use podman now
DNS working is also weird

[rare bridge]

solution is to reinstall and start from ground up

surely i can do that in the 1 hour before stream and have time to configure the bingo

[scarlet arch]

[rare bridge]

why is this machine slow

i'm gonna go take a look at it and it's gonna be literally on fire isn't it

well, either way it looks kinda cooked

[noble zodiac]

surely you can fix it in like 5 minutes

[rare bridge]

i blame the people who installed a chunkgen mod on it and then decided to chunkgen like 1 million chunks

[scarlet arch]

whats that

also no separate machines?

[rare bridge]

oh that's hilarious

[noble zodiac]

so you are missing internet connectivity within docker but its all fine on the host system?

[rare bridge]

i got a response from cloudflare dns

[rare bridge]

here's the fun part

the whole machine is failing at sending requests EXCEPT for DNS requests

[noble zodiac]

but the dns is cloudflare which is external.... thats odd

[rare bridge]

yep!

[trim valve]

what happens if you like curl cloudflares DoH server

[noble zodiac]

I would say maybe your tcp is fucked since dns is udp but your ping is also not working and thats even lower in the stack with icmp

[trim valve]

curl --http2 --header "accept: application/dns-json" "https://one.one.one.one/dns-query?name=cloudflare.com" --next --http2 --header "accept: application/dns-json" "https://one.one.one.one/dns-query?name=example.com"

oop

[rare bridge]

no response

[noble zodiac]

what does ip route show say? Maybe something killed your default route

[trim valve]

wait that's two requests

[rare bridge]

default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp2s0 proto dhcp src 192.168.0.41 metric 100
10.0.0.0/24 dev wg0 proto kernel scope link src 10.0.0.2
172.17.0.0/16 dev docker0 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.0.1
172.18.0.0/16 dev br-23723b24b7ad proto kernel scope link src 172.18.0.1
172.19.0.0/16 dev br-e627f4b2c93b proto kernel scope link src 172.19.0.1 linkdown
172.20.0.0/16 dev br-98bd4f004a46 proto kernel scope link src 172.20.0.1
172.21.0.0/16 dev br-c69d517469d2 proto kernel scope link src 172.21.0.1 linkdown
172.22.0.0/16 dev br-57fc1c14c9a7 proto kernel scope link src 172.22.0.1 linkdown
172.23.0.0/16 dev br-0ccfb4d6cdcf proto kernel scope link src 172.23.0.1
172.26.0.0/16 dev br-472d28bda5c8 proto kernel scope link src 172.26.0.1
192.168.0.0/24 dev enp2s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.41 metric 100

@stiff mica

[noble zodiac]

oh god docker routing I hate it so much

you could listen with tcpdump on the main interface to see if the packets uses the right way

[scarlet arch]

I mean on the first look the routing looks okay... weird

very dumb question but have you tried just restarting it? :P

[rare bridge]

yes

[scarlet arch]

oh

[rare bridge]

and a restart caused this to begin with, so whatever is going on, it's been broken for a WHILE

[scarlet arch]

damn

[rare bridge]

and just didn't apply until restart

[scarlet arch]

and have you isolated it to this host specifically?

cause I had a similar issue once and turns out it was my OpnSense firewall :P

[rare bridge]

i am using discord on a machine that's connected to the same network

[scarlet arch]

hmmm

[noble zodiac]

maybe look thought the dnf history to see if someone installed something weird

[scarlet arch]

can you freely talk to local devices?

[noble zodiac]

also audit log for selinux stuff

[rare bridge]

thanks selinux

[rare bridge]

here's the fun part

[noble zodiac]

smh my head

[rare bridge]

i can talk to this machine on the local network

that all works fine

[noble zodiac]

since dns works can you ping the ip of the dns server?

[rare bridge]

heck, local devices which can directly interact with home assistant installed onto the same machine are behaving properly

[scarlet arch]

right, but outgoing from the device? like say ping your firewall or something else on your network?

just trying to isolate the issue, sorry if I'm asking annoying questions :D

[rare bridge]

pinged this machine

it seems to be specifically outbound connections

which makes me think..

oh why is my router refusing connections

interesting

[scarlet arch]

yeah that sounds like a firewall/router issue

[noble zodiac]

try to stop the docker service and see if that fixes the outgoing connectivity. At least that might narrow it down

[trim valve]

do you somehow have a misconfigured gateway address or something?

idr much about networking

[scarlet arch]

to have routing tables and any other tables return to "normal" I assume?

[rare bridge]

oh the router is just being weird with networking

not related to cuirrent issue

[scarlet arch]

heh

[rare bridge]

it's just weird

[noble zodiac]

yea that would shutdown all the weird bridges

[scarlet arch]

they shouldn't really matter tho

[noble zodiac]

but they do sadly, nftables does a lot of internal routing

[scarlet arch]

oof

[rare bridge]

docker is stopped but docker shall continue running, just to fuck with you

[scarlet arch]

there's only one thing I'm slightly confused about

is the ip route show output deterministic?

[noble zodiac]

the socket should be ok if all container are stopped

[rare bridge]

all the docker routes are still there

[scarlet arch]

cause I would've expected host routes to come first, followed by docker stuff, and not have it be in between

[rare bridge]

this machine might as well be cooked

[noble zodiac]

ok, stop docker, disable the service so it wont autostart, and reboot. that has to kill all the bridges

in theory....

[rare bridge]

surely it works

also we're beyond bingo working today

[molten island]

ps aux | grep docker and then kill -9 <docker pid>? sounds scuffed btw

[scarlet arch]

anyone know about this? @noble zodiac? Cause the only important thing for ordering is the metric right? doesn't matter what I check, the route that is listed last in cloudburts output is always below the default route for all of my servers. so just trying to verify this isn't anything.

[rare bridge]

i'm about that wg0 network

[trim valve]

you could potentially take down wireguard

[scarlet arch]

well, what are you doing with wireguard? :D

[trim valve]

I always forget how wireguard routing works

[rare bridge]

wireguard is down rn

that's the fun part

[noble zodiac]

I think so but the internal firewall might still block stuff inbetween

[rare bridge]

the machine is still refusing connections

[trim valve]

how does it show in ip link, is it down or up in there?

[rare bridge]

it's been a bit too long for it to still be doing that

[scarlet arch]

oh boy

[rare bridge]

i'll tell you when the machine cooperates

[trim valve]

😔

[rare bridge]

oh there we go

still no ping to google.com

wait a sec

[trim valve]

sudo wg-quick down

surely

[scarlet arch]

for reference, here's my NAS

default via 10.0.0.1 dev br0 proto dhcp src 10.1.0.0 metric 1005 
10.0.0.0/8 dev br0 proto dhcp scope link src 10.1.0.0 metric 1005 
172.17.0.0/16 dev docker0 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.0.1 

and my second server

default via 10.0.0.1 dev eno1 proto dhcp src 10.1.0.1 metric 100 
10.0.0.0/8 dev eno1 proto kernel scope link src 10.1.0.1 metric 100 
172.17.0.0/16 dev docker0 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.0.1 linkdown 
172.19.0.0/16 dev br-5f688005dbc1 proto kernel scope link src 172.19.0.1 
172.20.0.0/16 dev br-09003b30cdbd proto kernel scope link src 172.20.0.1 
172.21.0.0/16 dev br-80528a4db2da proto kernel scope link src 172.21.0.1 
172.22.0.0/16 dev br-2bafb91f31c2 proto kernel scope link src 172.22.0.1 
172.23.0.0/16 dev br-682b3a166f96 proto kernel scope link src 172.23.0.1 
172.24.0.0/16 dev br-d8d0b3c48115 proto kernel scope link src 172.24.0.1 
172.25.0.0/16 dev br-4dc065c070ee proto kernel scope link src 172.25.0.1 
172.26.0.0/16 dev br-8841971fdefc proto kernel scope link src 172.26.0.1 

so as you can see, main route is always directly after the default route.

But if this doesn't matter then idk. Have you tried attaching wireshark?

[rare bridge]

interesting

there's a peer connected to wg

[scarlet arch]

eeeeh

[trim valve]

I wonder if you're routing your traffic to that peer or something weird

[scarlet arch]

wasn't there a command to see what route is being used for a certain type of request?

[rare bridge]

wait there isn't a peer, it's just configured i think

but it's down rn

[scarlet arch]

got it

[rough bloom]

shouldn't matter
I think it's just ordered by the network prefix, with the default route always being first (makes sense since it's the same as 0.0.0.0/0)

[scarlet arch]

ip route show to match try this, followed by a public IP

this will give you the route being tried

[trim valve]

that's neat

I really want to learn how the ip command works beyond just ip addr and ip link lol

[scarlet arch]

yeah working with critical infrastructure I've seen lots of fucked up networks customers have set up :D

[rare bridge]

(ip is a public server, no worries about it being leaked)

[scarlet arch]

luckily Cloudburst doesn't use HSR with Lane A and Lane B traffic

[rare bridge]

it's going the right way, but something's stopping it

[scarlet arch]

hmmm

does your router by any chance support traffic capture?

[trim valve]

chuck a traceroute at it I guess?

[rare bridge]

atp a reinstall would prob work better

but might as well figure out what's going on so it don't happen again

[rare bridge]

nope

[scarlet arch]

this also works apparently

ip route get 1.1.1.1

and it tells you where it pulled the info

oh replace the IP I guess

[rare bridge]

[molten island]

i think it's works without sudo

[rare bridge]

thank you random wg0 network

now can you pls die

[scarlet arch]

why's it using wg0 lol

hahaha

but I guess that would explain the issue

[molten island]

how the fuck

[rare bridge]

i blew wg0 up

LMAO

THAT WORKED

[scarlet arch]

:D

[molten island]

lmao

[trim valve]

I guess but isn't it literally just saying "you should've used root so we're gonna ask you for it instead"

[rare bridge]

it was wg0 this whole time

[trim valve]

my guess is you had wireguard configured to vpn through a peer and now that peer is down

[scarlet arch]

before you go can I add you as a friend :D

[molten island]

i mean
it's uses sudo anyways

[rare bridge]

i just kinda blew it up with nmcli

[trim valve]

no idea why dns was leaking that though

[rare bridge]

it's too late for me to configure bingo i think tho

[noble zodiac]

tbf, it did a great job at guarding you from the internet

[molten island]

[trim valve]

arguably it was doing the right thing

[rare bridge]

it was doing.. something

it was not right

but it was something

[scarlet arch]

I do wonder how it can have a peer tho if it was set to "unknown" as a state lol

[trim valve]

god this subject

can you be a little less on the nose

[rare bridge]

wait i might be able to speedrun bingo

one sec

i got 20 mins

[noble zodiac]

hell yea, go get it

[trim valve]

last minute setup my beloved

[scarlet arch]

holy hell wait, if it always went over wireguard, does that mean all outgoing internet traffic went over the tunnel? hahaha

poor little endpoint

[olive sable]

Managed to score a new tv for the game room

Its 49" and 4k. Has 3D too

[scarlet arch]

should probably hang it the other way around

[rare bridge]

99% of prompts now shall have this as the explanation

No explanation provided, most likely the prompt is self-explanatory or Cloudburst is a lazy bastard

[olive sable]

Ye its upsidedown, the bottom has buttons

[scarlet arch]

I know I was making a joke

god I'm so bad at humour

[noble zodiac]

the giraff tho

[olive sable]

I just have autism

[scarlet arch]

[trim valve]

what kinda 3d does it have

[olive sable]

You need those glasses

[trim valve]

which kind 😭

like red-blue or the other ones

[olive sable]

Its a LG 49ub850v

Not the red blue kind

The ps3 kind

[trim valve]

so I guess its probably polarisation shenanegans or something?

[scarlet arch]

ah so its likely the polarisation ones yeah

[olive sable]

Yes

[trim valve]

dual play mode sounds like a neat concept tbh

[olive sable]

One eye is polorized horizontaly, the other vertically.
Or player 1 horizontal player 2 vertical

[olive sable]

It is imo, just never executed correctly

Linus tech dude made a video about these

Im suprised i managed to find one

These are rare

Its not the expensive one in the video exactly, but it has the same features

This one is just not oled nor 240hz

[nocturne olive]

That's actually crazy

Unfortunately I still haven't managed to grab a 3090 for training NeuroSynth on

[olive sable]

We have a lot of those girafs

One is taller than me

[scarlet arch]

wait I remember uncle snoek (in the VC) also had some in his room. is this a netherland thing? lol

I had a talk, and apparently it's not

just a weird coincidence :D

[olive sable]

Idk

Im not in the netherlands

[olive sable]

Ah

[scarlet arch]

oh then I'm just stupid

my memory isn't the best :D

[olive sable]

Dementia

[timber dagger]

just one more exam from mathematics

Laplace and Fourier you two bastards

[rare bridge]

and the network imploded

fun

[scarlet arch]

define.. "imploded" :D

[rare bridge]

it deadrd

[trim valve]

yeah but I'd rather just explicitly use sudo myself

[scarlet arch]

I mean I figured haha

[rare bridge]

this time it's not my fault tho

[trim valve]

I really don't like programs that interactively handhold when you do stuff like that

[rare bridge]

or at least i hope it isn't

someone tell me if this resolves

https://nwero.net

[scarlet arch]

taking its sweet time

[rare bridge]

it doesn't

[trim valve]

$ ping nwero.net
PING nwero.net (104.21.64.1)
64 bytes from 104.21.64.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=3.56 ms
64 bytes from 104.21.64.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=3.64 ms

I can ping it

[scarlet arch]

plenty of IP's behind the DNS entry tho

https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/nwero.net

[rare bridge]

cloudflare

[scarlet arch]

well, with that many IP's I dunno how it selects the right one

lemme check them all

[rare bridge]

they're all cloudflare, it'll get where it needs to go

from what i can see internally, everything should work

[rare bridge]

i feel like this might be cloudflare s fault now

[stark needle]

cloudflare vs cloudburst who would win

battle of the clouds

[trim valve]

it could still be your fault

[rare bridge]

nvm my router is on fire

[scarlet arch]

yeah they all work

[trim valve]

I've had this previously when I had my backend ip set wrong

no idea why it times out instead of failing fast but oh well

[olive sable]

Rip router

[rare bridge]

oh okay it's swapped places one sec

[scarlet arch]

quick 8 min adventure of setting up opnsense? :D

[rare bridge]

router restarted itself

[scarlet arch]

that moment when init runs out of memory

just checked my firewall and it's using 22GB of memory for ARC. what the fuck

[rough bloom]

zfs on a firewall?

[trim valve]

arc?

[scarlet arch]

default for opnsense

[scarlet arch]

zfs cache basically

[trim valve]

I mean fair enough if its not being used elsewhere

[scarlet arch]

just struggling to understand what the fuck it could be caching

[trim valve]

surely its reclaimable

[scarlet arch]

I way overspeced my firewall

[rough bloom]

I wonder why they do that, seems incredibly unnecessary given that it shouldn't really serve anything from the disk
should only need to write logs and statistics and all that can't be cached anyway

[scarlet arch]

worth it tho

[rare bridge]

ok whatever's happening, it's probably cloudflare s fault

[scarlet arch]

you can do more on opnsense than just firewall stuff

[trim valve]

check where your dns records are pointing in the cloudflare dashboard

[rare bridge]

ik where they're pointing

[trim valve]

as long as you've checked they're right

[rough bloom]

I know that you can, it has tons of plugins and stuff, I just don't see why you actually would use OPNsense for that instead of Proxmox or TrueNAS Scale or something
maybe I'm just underestimating it

[rare bridge]

wait

i may be stupid

[scarlet arch]

[rare bridge]

i was the stupid

nginx config error

[trim valve]

site works

[scarlet arch]

oh in general zfs? yeah idk. does it prevent bitrot? may be a reason

@rough bloom idk why the think emote, but bitrot is a concern for non-ECC systems haha

well, and any normal hard drive

I know btrfs prevents it, but unsure about zfs

ZFS will catch and repair bit rot transparently

[rough bloom]

yeah, I'd guess so, just not sure if/how zfs would help there

[scarlet arch]

yeah, the likely reason then

thats actually pretty neat then

[olive sable]

I found it, itdoes some wonky interlacing

Pretty cool

[trim valve]

now you can watch [Filtered] the way it was meant to be watched

[olive sable]

What?

[trim valve]

wait nvm misunderstood how it worked

[olive sable]

You need the glasses yo only see 1 of the 2 parts

Without you see both at the same time

[rough bloom]

oh right, OPNsense uses FreeBSD which doesn't support btrfs but has really good support for zfs I think?
makes sense why they're using it then

[olive sable]

So i wouldnt watch [redacted] on this. Very sus bred

[trim valve]

😭

I was referring to the arg

[olive sable]

Sure sure

I dont have hhe 3d glasses tho

[trim valve]

just aquire some polarising filter

from somewhere

[olive sable]

You need ones that can switch between the 2 sides

[nocturne olive]

Relative screen space SMOL

[olive sable]

Cuz 3d is mixed per glasses, dual play is one direction per glasses

[olive sable]

Its 49", big enough

Previous one was 40"

[nocturne olive]

Relative != absolute

Relative refers to content/pixel

[olive sable]

Oh ye

[trim valve]

what scaling is windows running on that

[olive sable]

I mean, with 3d you're effectivle halfong the 4k resolution

Same with dual play

[stark needle]

who even pinged me

[trim valve]

@stark needle

[scarlet arch]

#announcements? :D

[olive sable]

300%

[stark needle]

NEVERMIND IT WAS THE STUPID ANNOUNCEMENT PING

[stark needle]

I HATE THIS

[scarlet arch]

[scarlet arch]

[trim valve]

I forget that people get those pings

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

tbf I've messed up my notif settings here pretty bad

[stark needle]

the channel is muted + hidden + disabled all mentions

[neat lynx]

Is the Ai learn over time or I am just dumb by asking that

[trim valve]

I don't get the notif sound if people ping me, just the icon

[stark needle]

generally no

[neat lynx]

So can Ai get better at something because of the memories

?

[nocturne olive]

I always run 100% (anything else breaks stuff)

[olive sable]

I have since changed to 100 aswell.it just autod to 300 for big tv

[trim valve]

300 is insane for a tv

[trim valve]

tbh on 11 most stuff runs fine unless you're using obscure software

[nocturne olive]

I'm talking stuff like Pxls or Neurolings
Those things hate scaling != 100%

Also I'm on Windows 10 and never touching 11 on my own hardware

[trim valve]

pxls was fine for me but I can see why neurolings would struggle

[olive sable]

11 is fine. Just not great

[trim valve]

idk why you're complaining about scaling on 11 if you don't use it

[nocturne olive]

I consider it unusably bad

[olive sable]

Ok

I dont

[nocturne olive]

Lot of little things stacking to make me not even consider it as an option

I'm probably gonna go to Linux Mint or something next

[opaque sigil]

It's been almost 4 years Microsoft, where is my windows 12

[ruby timber]

I truly can't wait

[opaque sigil]

Last I heard 25H2 is supposed to be ai focused

So that's fun

Don't quote me on that though

[nocturne olive]

The ruin everything update part 2

24H2 was already bad enough, 25H2 is gonna make it even worse

[opaque sigil]

I forgot what 24h2 was even about

[trim valve]

I don't even notice 90% of the major updates

as long as my desktop looks identical I don't care really

[opaque sigil]

I still look at the changelog when I catch there being an update

Never know if there's anything interesting

[trim valve]

ngl I've never looked at the changelogs

[nocturne olive]

I guess making the OS as garbage as possible to force people even more to have a Microsoft account

[sour lotus]

Hello fine people and goeie dag

[opaque sigil]

I already had a ms account for other things so this never really bothered me

[sour lotus]

Thanks for the input last night @olive sable ,it helped me a lot with my direction 🍻

[olive sable]

No problem

I was just joking btw

[sour lotus]

Ah cool because I didn't change anything

[trim valve]

same here tbh

I think the only place I use my Microsoft account is Xbox services though

[sour lotus]

Lol jokes, nah it helped me widen the audience a bit which is a nice add to my prototype

[opaque sigil]

okay looking at the actual changelog for 24H2, most of those changes don't even apply to anything that isn't a copilot+ pc and the rest is just eh whatever

[trim valve]

there's a new ai components menu that popped up in the add or remove programs part of settings

idr when that appeared though

[nocturne olive]

Except maybe stuff like breaking all the things

Like audio and other drivers

[opaque sigil]

like what

nothing broke for me

[trim valve]

yeah nothing broke for me either

[opaque sigil]

interesting

[nocturne olive]

I've heard a lot of people got audio issues and other drivers issues with 24H2

[opaque sigil]

that sucks

[trim valve]

my decently scuffed audio setup works fine

[opaque sigil]

windows in general has the tendency to reset its audio subsystem after major updates

[noble zodiac]

Never had problems with audio

[olive sable]

I only have audio issues with apo eq

It breaks vc's

[opaque sigil]

yeah for me it resets itself sometimes after updates (though hasn't happened in a while)

[olive sable]

Everytime i join a discord vc, or even fortnite parties, i need to turn it off and back on

[opaque sigil]

it hooks itself pretty deep into windows

huh

i've never had that

are you using it directly or via peace

[olive sable]

Directly

And then to my BT headset

[opaque sigil]

interesting

might be worth trying with peace then maybe?

[olive sable]