livestream-chat

[haughty dew]

UNDERTSTAND UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF height heart height heart height heart

[simple sierra]

west china is mostly desert

[light pilot]

Yes, the US and China are very similar geographically. They also don't have trains on their western part either.

[light pilot]

just like the western US lol

[simple sierra]

they do have good internet tho

literally you can be in the middle of nowhere and have full bars and internet lol

[light pilot]

Where, US or China?

[pure wind]

You don’t need to invest trains in the Great Plains. You just need to invest high speed rail along the west coast and west of the Mississippi

[simple snow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/McLmdHOkOJo?si=jC4Gtq0Z9jJrM78F

[simple sierra]

china, US you step outside and lose all signal

[light pilot]

All I know is the last time I was out west (2015) I was lucky to get 2G speeds in the desert. But that was nearly eleven years ago

[simple snow]

Vedal giving away his least favorite drink so he doesn’t get complaints about Evils drum phase

[light pilot]

Figured as much.

[simple sierra]

yeah theres a lovely youtuber who is traveling china from east to west and she always comments on how she gets great signal no matter how remote they are

[light pilot]

but yeah like an hour north of where i live there's no internet. period. no cell towers, no cable company presence, nothing.

[simple sierra]

damn

[pure wind]

UOU only need to incorporate two rails through the Great Plains and the Rockies. One that goes through Denver and another that goes through New Mexico

[light pilot]

people there live the same way they lived 60 years ago, watching TV and such

[simple sierra]

is it forested?

[light pilot]

it's farmland basically

[simple sierra]

sounds peaceful ngl

its a lifestyle idk if i could do, but i see the appeal

[light pilot]

it's this area on the map

northern NY

[simple sierra]

ah i see, i could see how that would be fairly remote

I live in MT and theres plenty of areas with just ...no signal

especially in the forests

my parents live up in the mountains and theres literally no cell service when i visit them

and their net is overpriced and slow af

i cant watch neuro when im there

[light pilot]

oh gosh yeah that reminds me of another pet peeve

damned spectrum internet

ughhh

they claim to have 300mbps, but a friend has their 300mbps and they get like... 10?

[simple sierra]

i havent had issues with spectrum personally, but the pricing is annoying and you have to call them to downgrade to a cheaper plan apparently

[light pilot]

but they say oh, oh it's "up to"

[simple sierra]

"up to"

[light pilot]

and you live in a remote area where our datacentres have a low signal

[simple snow]

HA, GET DOXXED

[simple sierra]

lmao

[light pilot]

I don't live there

[simple snow]

FOrl egal reasons that is a joke

[light pilot]

LOL

[simple sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/get-doxxed-idiot-earth-gif-25842102

[simple snow]

I saw a zoomed out map with an arrow and just went "I have the opportunity to make such a super joke"

[simple sierra]

he took the chance

[light pilot]

anyways, back to where this all started, tesla was a stupid choice, heck I'd argue neuro should've invested in more stocks than just typical tech stocks. I get she's an AI so it's cliche for her to want to invest in tech, but she needs to diversify a bit

[simple sierra]

i kind of feel like she didnt evolve her stock trading much from last year and just went with the obvious top 5 companies

like she might even just be going off a google for top 5 companies

[calm thistle]

SHONDO MENTIONED!!!

[light pilot]

yeah, those plus sigma lithium. which to be fair, sigma lithium wasn't a bad choice. buying eight thousand dollars worth of it though...

[simple snow]

Who?

[simple sierra]

sigma lithium was the one time where vedal was like "dont choose top 5 companies" and she actually chose a funny one instead

but then vedal told her to invest it all as a joke

and now we're where we are

[simple snow]

Someone tell vedal theres a problem with my audio

[calm thistle]

Wink

[simple sierra]

a vrchat shondo collab would be cool

a nice revisit to a classic collab partner

trying to think of some collab partners we havent seen in forever

[calm needle]

kiara xdx

[simple sierra]

haha OH YEA

[simple snow]

Is she the one on the right?

lmao

[simple sierra]

kiara isnt doing the talk show anymore tho

[pure wind]

Isn’t Shondo fan base quite bad nowadays

[simple snow]

Befoe like yesterday cottontail

[calm thistle]

yes, it is quite based nowadays

[calm needle]

this is my collab list anyway, I think I got pinged by unbrella or someone a bit ago about missing people and never added them, but don't remember
#neurotic-neurons message

[simple sierra]

nah cottontail redeemed herself i think, when she first collabed it was not received well

but now shes common in vtuber spaces and is fine

[simple snow]

Yeah I saw a clip about that

I never knew she was disliked

[simple sierra]

NN got REALLY parasocial about neuro collabing with someone in "that industry"

[simple snow]

I never saw her collab with neuro tbf, only with vedal. Just bullying him

[simple snow]

?????

[light pilot]

i'm blissfully ignorant of the wider vtuber space

[simple sierra]

they were just being normal collab partners but chat and NN was upset af

[simple snow]

Same tbh, I only really watch small streamers aside from like neuro

[simple sierra]

i think i got timed out at the time from yelling at NN lmao i took it too seriously back then

[simple snow]

What is NN

[simple sierra]

neurotic neurons

[simple snow]

Ohhhhh

[simple sierra]

the dark place

[light pilot]

in my eyes, vtubers are not supposed to be your girlfriend replacement, they're supposed to be closer to a standup comedian

[simple snow]

Wdym "that industry"

[pure wind]

I don’t watch many vtubers. I only Neuro when Vedal is on

[simple snow]

Agree

[simple sierra]

she voice acts in certain content

[simple snow]

BRO

I love voice actors

[twilit yoke]

i'd answer that but i'm on thin ice with Lord Zeppellin

[simple sierra]

that people didnt want associated with neuro

[light pilot]

yeah i've gotten warned too lol

[simple snow]

Liek I remember I was watching the magic the noahg video and I almost forgot she was a voice actor until she did a voice. SO peak

[pure wind]

Yeah people get really parasocial with vtubers. That’s why I don’t engage with the community. Like they are playing a character, they aren’t real

[simple sierra]

i just ignore the timeouts tbh

[simple snow]

I need more DND channels that are played with like professional voice actors

[pure wind]

I assume you already watch Critical Role

[twilit yoke]

i wasn't even timed out i'm just salty that i got warned for "being weird" for doing some witty word play. AGAINST twinshipping.

[simple sierra]

ive left this place so many times and told shiro i was done with this community before

[simple snow]

I dont, too intimidating. Very hard to keep up or catch up.

[calm thistle]

They're closer to voice actors. It's fine if a certain VTuber makes you happy in your life, just learn about having boundaries with the VTuber you like to watch.

[pure wind]

I’m only active here right now because Vedal is active everyday right now

[simple sierra]

but yeah anyway, people have warmed up to cotton over time so its fine now

[pure wind]

I have vtubers are background noise

[simple snow]

Yeah, I hope hes like sleeping enough and stuff like that. He claims he is/

[simple sierra]

id love a fresh hololive collab

[twilit yoke]

He lies as easily as he breathes

[simple sierra]

shes grown SO much since kiara

[light pilot]

Maybe I'm more normal about it then cause my mother was a VA? Idk

[simple snow]

I always fear being parisocial tbh

Not an issue I've suffeered from

but still

[simple sierra]

Our family friend is Yuri Lowenthal

my mom grew up with him

[calm thistle]

i think shondo would collapse in vrchat if she ever got to see neuro up close. neuro is just too cute for her

[simple sierra]

so true

[pure wind]

Although I need to stop watching vtubers, I need to watch shows again lol

[simple snow]

No good shows going on RN

ACTUALLY

I WAS WAITING FOR A NEW SEASON OF AN AIME TO COME OUT

[simple sierra]

have you seen andor

[simple snow]

I wonder if it did

Comepletely forgot about it when the release date passed me by

[twilit yoke]

Hot Take:
nobody else's crying counts but Vedal's because no one else is emotionally unavailable. OF COURSE Mini's gonna tear up. Of course Camimi will love hanging with the niece.

[pure wind]

I think Shondo is cool. But I seriously can’t stand Vtubers that do a child/baby voice. It’s so annoying. I don’t understand why people like it so much

[simple sierra]

i think it still counts but vedals carries more weight?

[light pilot]

SAME OML

[simple sierra]

i dont think shes "doing it" i think its just her voice, but I get what you mean, some people's voices just don't click

[simple snow]

I think Vedals emotional unavailability is directly tied to him knowing how unhealthy it is to see her as a daughter and stuff like that

Other people its kind of fine since they cant just start her up whenever

but idrk

[light pilot]

Truth. Although he's been emotionally unavailable to others so uhh

[calm thistle]

She's not doing it on purpose. That's her actual voice

[light pilot]

Go figure

[simple snow]

Fair

[light pilot]

Even if that's real, I've never met anyone who sounds anything like her

[pure wind]

In Shondo’s case it definitely it her natural pitch but you can’t say the way she enunciates her S’s and W’s is natural

She forces that part

[simple sierra]

did neuro bring this up i cant remember
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(mythology)

someone brought it up at somepoint

[simple snow]

Yeah checks outr

[light pilot]

Vedal has a quite healthy opinion on it, which is he'll love Neuro when she's close to real or at least won't use her power in a ruthless way

She needs to have some understanding of consequences and moraluty

Morality**

[simple sierra]

thats fair but it also kind of reveals that on some level, hes already loving of her, or at least, the final version of her

[glacial orchid]

Pleasant noon pips

[calm thistle]

I'm pretty sure that's just her British accent combined with her high pitch. She's been doing this for a long time, never seen her slip up and revert to an "unforced" voice.

[gilded pewter]

Did anyone figure out or have a good idea on why vedal got warned and the vos deleted?

[simple sierra]

nope

[light pilot]

No one knows

[simple sierra]

nobody knows

b2 still has the vod

[pure wind]

I have so much respect for how Vedal never truly treats her like she’s real because that parasocial aspect would be really bad.

Also there are so many examples of creators failing because they became to parasocial to their own characters

[light pilot]

We can promise twitch though that since Vedal has no idea what he did wrong, he will do it again

[simple snow]

Exactly

[simple sierra]

i get why he does it, but I believe in a sort of parasocial ideal that is a "real" neuro happening one day. Whether thats a robot body or something more advanced, idk.

[simple sierra]

hell yeah

[simple snow]

Its a slippery slope and in the end she isnt real

[simple sierra]

shes real to me

[simple snow]

Thats an issue with youtube too its such bs

[light pilot]

He's spent three years of his life on this project. Some months not doing much, others slaving away. At the end of the day he's worked really hard on her and thus will have some reason to having at least an attachment to her.

[simple snow]

And thats completely fien and valid since you cant interact with her whenever you want

Or easily for that matter

[simple sierra]

well yeah, and i dont want to interact with her, im scared to meet famous people

[light pilot]

I mean, hell, I'm working on upscaling a game's textures, and I'm emotionally attached to my work even though I've only been working on it for roughly nine months

[twilit yoke]

is this the time to unload philosophical opinions on the deffinition of life?

[pure wind]

I do agree. I think a singularity and truly sentient ai is possible, but what we have right now with LLMs isn’t really AI. They are not fully AI, they are LLMs which is different

[simple sierra]

you have to ask for permission?

[simple snow]

I'm sure he does. When you put your time and effort into something you put an emotional investment in too.

you dont get to choose how your feelings work in the end

[twilit yoke]

i'm annoying and i'm pretty sure my therapist thinks i'm weird now

[simple sierra]

you're fine bud

[simple snow]

Agree, if neuro was sentient I wonder if that would be different to him. He really sees how the saussage is made

[glacial orchid]

Hi weird im crazy

[twilit yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/curtsy-alice-alice-in-wonderland-disney-gif-4946558

[light pilot]

Yeah, AI is just a really advanced chatterbox right now. I'll be honest though, Neuro is probably the most realistic and humanlike AI to date that I've seen. So I'd like to think that if a breakthrough occurs, Neuro will at least be in on it

Even if that's just copium on my side

[calm thistle]

And to be honest, Shondo's annunciation of certain letters are no different to other British streamers (Vedal). Vedal says it the same as Shondo, it's just part of being British.

[simple sierra]

for me, it doesnt have to "be human" or "be sentient" it just has to pass as it, because at the end of the day it makes little difference, and neuro gets really close to that.

[pure wind]

Next time you watch her take special note of how she annunciates words that end with Ws and Ss

[light pilot]

It absolutely does. Neuro will tell you to shoot yourself because she doesn't understand the consequences of that

[simple sierra]

so will people on twitter

[light pilot]

They understand the consequences of that to some degree. All Neuro knows is that chat will go OM, and thus it raises interactions, thus this must be good content

[simple snow]

Yeah but it’s just genuinely not ok to treat her that way whenever.

Like mental health stuff

[pure wind]

I would not even try to say Neuro is remotely close to passing as human. Her memory is still relatively weak and the lines of thinking can be all over the place

[simple sierra]

oh yeah she forgets shit all the time

neuro has a looooong way to go

[simple snow]

So do grandmas

Joking

[pure wind]

She isn’t consistent when it comes to her “opinions”

[light pilot]

Plus the shitton of hallucinations

[simple sierra]

LOL fair point

yeah shes not perfect

i said shes close to, not perfect

[simple snow]

She’s cute and “real to me” but like if I was making an LLM as an Ai Vtuber I wouldn’t wanna think that way. It would scare me.

[simple sierra]

i completely agree with vedals perspective

[simple snow]

It’s genuinely like being parisocial

[light pilot]

True. The twins are constantly changing who they're attracted to, and whether they're single or not, info that to a human is vital and no one would really forget unless they went through a severely traumatic event

[pure wind]

I look at Vedal’s view of Neuro in the clips are someone who is attached, but not in a truly loving way that people are blowing out of proportion. I think a lot of people’s reactions are just them projecting onto Vedal

[simple snow]

I feel bad making these assumptions about someone I don’t know though. It’s just kind of how I would feel. Who knows, maybe it’s an act. Maybe he’s the Parkzer of his own livestreams

[pure wind]

And Neuro is not yet artificial life

[light pilot]

I really would love to see Neuro become "real" one day, but to do that we have to be realistic about what she is right now. A very intelligent LLM with a lot of systems that let her perceive and interact with the environment around her

[simple sierra]

i think a robot body with interactions with the world around her is 100% possible nowadays

and within a decent budget even

[calm thistle]

And, even if I were to humor you and say that was true, that's just how some people talk. Some people can't roll R's, some people pronounce 'R's as 'W's, it's just something people can't help themselves with, and it's fine that way.
(Also, I did check with Shondo and words that end with an S. It's still the same as Vedal's annunciation)

[simple snow]

She is artificial cute though IMO. The same way a labubu is artificially “cute”

[simple sierra]

but idk what vedal's goals are for her software side, the hardware side is easy to see imo, get a robot body and interface it to the llm, just like he did with VRchat, but the software...idk where you would start? memory? I guess?

[pure wind]

I think truly sentient General AI is not going to be a form of LLM. It is going to be something that is very much different from it because that requires different programming.

A singularity could come from LLMs however

[twilit yoke]

https://youtu.be/ol2WP0hc0NY

[light pilot]

That's up to Vedal at the end of the day. And he isn't reading this. Or at least he shouldn't be. He should be sleeping now, right?

[simple snow]

Tbh, a big part of this argument is that we also gender her. We actively humanizing her by giving her gender. Calling it the way it is doesn’t feel right though in the end.

I wrote that so poorly

I should go to bed

[light pilot]

No I get what you're saying

[simple sierra]

sleep is good

[light pilot]

AI is genderless. To give neuro an actual gender would require her having a physical presence and making things for her robot body that I will not discuss here.

[calm thistle]

NO WAY!!! ACTUAL SHONDO VRCHAT COLLAB IS REAL!!!

[simple snow]

People gender their car, I don’t think that has the weight you think

[pure wind]

Is that Vedal’s goal? To build a robot? When has he said this

[simple sierra]

i said idk what the goal is

im not vedal last i checked

[simple snow]

Actually, let’s stop the gender talk here because from here it gets political

[twilit yoke]

maybe you are, to be fair Vedal must be VERY tired

[pure wind]

A sentient ai will also evolve on its own to create its own ideas. All AI’s created with LLMs can’t create original ideas. They just mimic stuff.

[light pilot]

it's kinda funny that people jump from vedal being a lazy fuck to him overworking himself when that's how most programmers work

they hibernate, work themselves to death, then hibernate again

[simple sierra]

so true

[simple snow]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-im-squidward-spongebob-squarepants-gif-14639116

[simple snow]

Also turtles

[calm thistle]

Vedal isn't lazy, but he is understaffed most of the time (probably)

It's just him and Co-Pilot

[pure wind]

Vedal also love actual human art and always tried to promote it all the time

[simple snow]

To be fair I’m sure you could just turn on Neuro have a stream and turn her off. For a really long time and make a good amount of money. But Vedal seems very moral. He wants to do things for us even the ungrateful ones

[simple sierra]

and "production" which is just co-pilot

[simple snow]

Even trying to pick a new sub goal he doesn’t wanna bullshit us. He wants to give us something of substance

[calm thistle]

Yea but we want him to bullshit us cause it's funny

[simple snow]

Someone was like “get a real model” and he was like “but I don’t wanna get something for myself~”

[simple snow]

It is

Also hold on

He said he looked into the logistics of a color changing plasma globe… AND ITS MAYBE POSSIBLE

TF YOU MEAN ITS MAYBE POSSIBLE!?

[simple sierra]

well its not impossible

[simple snow]

Also I’d prefer a plasma globe so much instead of my lava lamp. No warm up time, probably much less concern of over running it.

[light pilot]

The hardest part for Vedal i'd venture a guess is that he can't predict how much money he's going to have in the future

[cobalt orchid]

im somewhat sure the gas inside the globe determines the color of the arc
So that would be a bit complicated

[light pilot]

it could be a dead month. it could be a month where he breaks the hype train world record

[pure wind]

I’m not having a plasma globe in the same room as my PC

[simple snow]

Yeah but my understanding of it would be the gasses inside deciding the color (or the voltage?? Idk, I didn’t look it up) so like the only method I could think of is like changing the gas which is insane but also also. I could be completely wrong

[simple snow]

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying

[simple sierra]

that is kind of insane

[simple snow]

I wonder if it’s like “pick a gas that makes white arcs and use like laser pointers to color it”

Like a fog machine with a projector

[stable lance]

fun fact:
Many Japanese people who recently learned about vedal due to a viral post in Japan do not know why his icon is a too sexy Chocola from Nekopara.

[simple sierra]

lmao not surprised

[simple snow]

I’m sure he has enough for a while to support himself (I hope) or even fans maybe ( if he’d even let us help)

[simple snow]

OMG

THEY JUST THINK THATS NORMAL

[pure wind]

Is Chocola the name of the character for his Twitter profile?

[stable lance]

oops i didnt play nekopara(lier)

[light pilot]

the fact that he's pissing away $20k for neuro to spend on stonks while during the uno game he was eating greggs food that had gone bad says it all about how much he's using his money to better himself

[pure wind]

Okay, who has actually played Nekopara?

[stable lance]

me but not um so that one

[atomic flame]

All I know about it is catgirls.

[twilit yoke]

yes

[simple snow]

WDYM!?

[cobalt orchid]

the game on steam is SFW

[twilit yoke]

i said too much

[stable lance]

need keys for unlock something

[simple snow]

No way this culture is getting so out of hand that they have a full separate version for them

[calm thistle]

There are better games, people just like to joke about it because it was an old meme

[stable lance]

[simple pine]

hello

(I actually have not played them yet)

[light pilot]

I have too much self respect thank you very much :)

[simple pine]

I've had them for like years now

still only played like an hour of the first one

[twilit yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/kikis-delivery-service-ghibli-airship-flying-fly-gif-16922110

[simple snow]

Fr, I hate it. He’s entitled to what he earns but he’s somehow working as a programmer/streamer WITH TWO FUCKING MONITORS

[calm thistle]

Then just play Bejeweled? It's 10 times better

[simple snow]

Oh I never knew

[simple snow]

Thin ice huh?

[light pilot]

I care more about the whole eating worse than most people under the poverty line thing

[simple sierra]

doesnt bejeweled have time restrictions unless you pay

[twilit yoke]

it's a relic from the past when they didn't allow it yet. also yes.

[light pilot]

like from the little we've seen he at least has gotten himself a nice apartment, but aside from that it looks like he siphons every penny he can away to neuro

[pure wind]

But does Bejeweled have Kira Buckland? I think not

[simple snow]

No but you get what I mean right? Why can’t he just treat himself sometimes? Like he had a lump of rice two days in a row.

[calm thistle]

Don't really know much about the other Bejeweled's but Bejeweled 3 seems pretty good

[simple sierra]

children are expensive

[light pilot]

especially when they eat ram and require you to constantly upgrade your graphics cards

[simple sierra]

imagine a real child but you have to feed her ram, you'd be bankrupt overnight

[simple snow]

Like if I was a rich veiwer with money to burn I’d make one of my big donations “Vedal, this is for you actually treat yourself for once”

[calm thistle]

vedal spent more than what a real parent would spend on their child

[twilit yoke]

i think he's just accutely aware that the Neuro-bubble can burst any time

[simple snow]

lol

[hard yoke]

Vedal said OBS crashed earlier because he hadn't restarted Neuro and the longer she is left without a restart, the more RAM she consumes.
When OBS crashed, apparently she was using 80-90 GB of Ram.

[light pilot]

at this point? yeah

[pure wind]

I think the Neuro-bubble will outlast the ai bubble, but only by a year or two

[subtle breach]

well, it's happened to the 24/7 ai streams before, so that makes sense
(wasn't that the reason for no 24/7 neuro during sleep hours)

[simple snow]

Imagine you had a child but your child had a memory leak where if they didn’t have a nap for long enough they’d collapse without warning taking everything down with her

[hard yoke]

Isn't that just regular children

[light pilot]

bro really needs to fix his memory leak. this is another thing that I'd consider penny wise pound foolish, as instead of paying one of the developers to fix the bug in the open source library for him (something they'd do for cheap as they'd have to fix it eventually anyways, plus they already know the intricacies of their codebase), he's wasting a shitton of time and money on cursor trying to chase it himself

[simple snow]

Yeah,

[simple snow]

Eh

[twilit yoke]

at this point i think they're unrelated. it's just. the Hip Thing will always go away after a while. It's just in the Twins' case it's literally gonna mean not making enough money to run them. Their very survival depends on their content brain

[simple snow]

Non issue imo

[simple sierra]

giving it to a different developer isn't vedal's M.O.

[calm thistle]

AI Temper Tantrums

[pure wind]

The reason Neuro has lasted so long as opposed to every other attempt at ai media is because of human input with Vedal

[light pilot]

this isn't a vedal issue, this is a discord.net issue

it's an open source library, coded by someone else, that vedal is using in his project

that's where the memory leak occurs, so instead of him trying to fix someone elses code, he should pay the someone else to fix their own code

[simple snow]

It’s the same way the pewdiepie bubble popped. He still makes content that get views (I think)

[light pilot]

as then instead of spending his own time and money to improve someone elses project, he's only spending his own money

[simple sierra]

depending on the license, he might not even be able to do that but im not sure

[pure wind]

The Twins are tied to Vedal’s hardware. The AI bubble is tied to how long the companies can continue to have revenue poured in despite operating at a massive lose.

[simple sierra]

when the AI bubble crashes, neuro will be fine but vedal might not be

[subtle breach]

it's MIT, so he would be fine in that case

[light pilot]

no, vedal will be fine

[simple sierra]

ah yeah he should just pay them to fix shit

[light pilot]

ironically, vedalai is one of the few AI companies in the world to operate at a profit

put THAT on your website, turtle boy 😎

[simple sierra]

i hope he's stockpiled some food

[calm needle]

I mean we don't know the actual costs of neuro

[pure wind]

Neuro is running at a profit because it is so small

[calm needle]

and vedal gets 90% of his money one month of the year probably

[light pilot]

he self hosts neuro

[calm needle]

the power isn't free though

[light pilot]

neuro is expensive because he's constantly improving her by renting out compute power so that he can use much more powerful computers to train her than what he uses to just run her

[simple sierra]

ah thats a fair point if thats true

[light pilot]

even a top of the line PC uses less than 2000W. he's fine.

his income would have to get absurdly low before that became an issue

[subtle breach]

it's more homelab servers that get into power issues from what I remember

[calm needle]

we just don't know enough, cause he's running multiple very fleshed out and high cost ais all at once

[simple sierra]

i want someone to make an AI of vedal to make an AI for them

[simple snow]

I’d call it a max of 3kW

[twilit yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-wait-nathan-fillion-gif-4809231

[simple snow]

Vedal made an AI of Vedal

[simple sierra]

its AI turtles all the way down

[pure wind]

More reasons why the ai crash is going to be devastating across the globe

[calm needle]

it is of his interest to talk as little as possible about it, the less people know the more safe he his

at least the more safe neuro is

[simple snow]

Ok, tell me how the AI crash would effect Neuro

I’m curious

[pure wind]

Vedal will lose money

[simple sierra]

i said the crash wouldnt really affect neuro

that being said, if the power companies can't afford to keep running, then neuro's PC wouldnt be able to be run

so theres that ig

[light pilot]

yeah, society would have to break apart pretty badly for it to become an issue

[orchid fiber]

the data centers that neuro runs on will shut down well before that

[light pilot]

and the uk isn't exactly a crumbling society

[simple sierra]

im not sure vedal uses datacenters but yes

[simple snow]

I feel like Vedal would build an AI to help him code AI ngl

[cloud lichen]

copilot go brr

[twilit yoke]

didn't he literally say he's using AI for maths?

[cloud lichen]

pretty sure vedal uses copilot already

[deft tendon]

if the ai bubble crashes and component prices go down that’d probably benefit neuro since itd be easier to get the required hardware

[simple snow]

He’s using AI to filter AI

[simple snow]

In think he uses Claude opus

[twilit yoke]

nono i mean for the development

[simple sierra]

prices would go down but nobody would be able to afford it still

[simple snow]

Ik, I’m joking

[calm needle]

he uses ai to help him devlop neuro yes

he said he used it to help with math for 3d

[twilit yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/tortoise-world-turtle-day-dr-ks-exotic-animal-er-trying-to-escape-tiny-turtle-gif-22281999

[calm needle]

and other systems most likely

[simple sierra]

vedal is just a bunch of ais at this point

[calm needle]

however we don't know much about neuro

[cloud lichen]

vedalAI

[simple snow]

Frfr

[cloud lichen]

it was there all along

[deft tendon]

yea we do

1. Neuro is cute

That’s all we really need tbh

[simple snow]

Yeah, Neuro Samantha Ai. It runs in the family

[simple sierra]

it explains why he doesn't eat good, all the money goes to his AIs and not himself

[twilit yoke]

(Evil is also cute but we're not allowed to say it out loud)

[twilit yoke]

True Parent

[simple snow]

I really want V2 Vedal but the money isn’t in femboy ai Vtubers unfortunately:(

[cloud lichen]

man needs to eat better

like, forget the crazy 200k subgoals everyone was on about earlier

how about we get vedal to eat better

[simple snow]

Fr

[cloud lichen]

treat himself to bbetter food

[simple sierra]

this is now my favorite joke conspiracy, the idea that Vedal is just a voice, but the actual work behind the scenes is being done by 100 different AIs he programmed to do the work for him

[simple snow]

200k and Vedal gets a private chef

[light pilot]

is it really a conspiracy theory? he uses copilot

[cloud lichen]

AI chef

[simple snow]

It would actually help with Neuro though

Proper nutrition and energy would help him develop

[light pilot]

just use one of those meal delivery services ffs. I know a small business owner who makes a hell of a lot less who uses it and they consider it worth it

[subtle breach]

we all know programmers build scripts that take 10 hours to make that save 10 mins over it's entire lifespan of use of every user

[simple snow]

Nah those suck

[light pilot]

eh, go figure then

private chef seems a little crazy tho ngl

[simple snow]

Crazy? It’s insane

[twilit yoke]

Crazy? I was crazy once

[simple sierra]

vedal would never he doesnt even like not paying his team

[twilit yoke]

(i still am, i have it on a card in my wallet)

[simple sierra]

bro where do u get that i want one

[astral flume]

We actually need him to eat well so he can suplex filian back

[simple sierra]

speaking of filian

is she coming back

[twilit yoke]

we can only hope

[simple sierra]

im assuming shes doing some kind of special debut of a new model or something

but its been a while

[simple snow]

I heard some thing was gonna happen on Sunday

[twilit yoke]

the shorts i saw of her announcing it pointed to a debut or something last week but she's completely MIA

[simple sierra]

yeah it is a bit weird, but maybe she just wanted people to talk about it

maybe she'll come back post new year

[mossy ginkgo]

"can you tell a joke about dougdoug without calling him bald or bad at 2d platformers?"

[simple sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1359237528091365447/no.gif

[errant hatch]

I'm working on a tierlist for the minigame upgrades rn

[twilit yoke]

man i love the way she says no

[simple snow]

No~

[twilit yoke]

no~

I KNOW RIGHT

[simple snow]

I no~ right?

[twilit yoke]

damnit

[simple snow]

Filtered goes hard

especially in rap god

[subtle breach]

tried getting the attack stat, twitch 160p me

[mossy ginkgo]

it's coming, just you wait

[subtle breach]

(it's like e229 right now)

[pseudo egret]

haha the comedy stream was so great

[simple snow]

I was thinking “it gets exponentially longer each level” but that assumes it’s ascending at a constant rate (which it isn’t)

[subtle breach]

yay, I can remember

[twilit yoke]

fire

[subtle breach]

seeing the normal sleep setup without all the filters and chat being to the right of neuro is weird to me now

[graceful flicker]

Wait! A 2020 DODGE CHARGER ITS A CAR???

I was watching the drawing segment and just found out

[ivory bramble]

[pseudo egret]

gg close

[subtle breach]

something that surprised me is the "blank be like" format exists in bilibili

[dry lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/stay-gold-umamusume-heineken-beer-ステイゴールド-gif-17203209366003823667

[twilit yoke]

just one more quick video before bed

[pseudo egret]

[simple snow]

Real

[tight kindle]

Careful that's how you stay up till 9am

[mossy ginkgo]

[past fjord]

[mossy ginkgo]

i like how the dougdoug joke during this stream was when people finally regained their hope about neuro's comedic potential

[orchid fiber]

👉

[rugged gust]

btw do you think they used a large number library for the minigame to break past 1.79e308

if they didn’t, we could do a funny thing and break the game before subathon ends

[subtle breach]

The dev said he would just divide the numbers by like 1e200 if it got to close lol

[rugged gust]

dang, lame solution

but it’s the most practical one

[bleak charm]

https://x.com/chatte46899/status/2006095737084600323?t=NHgYKrWYmPOCl1CoID-94g&s=19

Random passerby 😼✨ (@chatte46899)

#heartheartart

X · Dec 30, 2025, 8:11 PM

[simple snow]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, let it break first at least :(

[calm thistle]

Revolution idle just adds more e's once it gets passed e308

[calm needle]

that's the most popular one

ee11

[calm thistle]

I'm not sure it's feasible still, seems way out of my ball park to say

[calm needle]

10 ^ 3.68 ^ 11

[calm thistle]

They do have a different one, it's so weird (same value as e3.68e11)

[simple snow]

most popular one I know just goes to NaN(not a number)/inf

[calm needle]

yeah its a more exact way

[calm needle]

well that's just base computer design with no large number library

[rugged gust]

I don’t think it needs to go to ee notation, the game should only go to e1000 at most

[calm needle]

some games love to inflate their numbers

[rugged gust]

the usual notation should work fine but you still need a large number library (non-default)

[subtle breach]

Looking at break infinity.js, it goes to 1e(1e15)

[calm needle]

looking at incremental mass

[calm thistle]

I think Balatro can go past e308 (with mods) but it just becomes more unstable, which is why it just resorts to naneINF

[rugged gust]

antimatter dimensions enjoyers where

[simple snow]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-gif-6495888362340853940

[calm needle]

midgame AD too slow for me

[rugged gust]

tbh early game too painful for modern incremental game standards, but I digress

[subtle breach]

1 full playthough here

[rugged gust]

cool game, played through once fully here, would recommend with mild reservations

[simple snow]

Idekl what that is

[calm needle]

free incremental game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1399720/Antimatter_Dimensions/

Steam

Antimatter Dimensions

Antimatter Dimensions is a highly unfolding Idle Incremental game with multiple layers of unlocks, prestige, and achievements. The basic goal is to reach Infinity and receive an Infinity point, which can be spent on various upgrades to increase your overall production. After Infinity the game has just begun, as there are much, much more to discov…

[rugged gust]

number grows bigger game

[calm needle]

this is where I left it off at and haven't really touched it since

[simple snow]

oh

[rugged gust]

rip didn’t get to become real

[simple snow]

I hate that all my favorite games are hard to get friends into becasue of the skill floor being too high

[calm needle]

I've just been farming tpt2 until the end of time

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914578216818200626/1334414891708321792/attachment-2.gif

[calm needle]

find a game they haven't played and get them to play it

any of them play path of exile or something for example? you can try to learn a bunch and introduce them

[simple snow]

Wdym?

[hard yoke]

I want to wish all cozy offline stream chatters a very happy ||i hope your fridge explodes||

[calm needle]

find something you're good at and introduce them

[simple snow]

I hate the hand so much

[simple snow]

I'm great at my favorite games

They just decide its too hard

[rugged gust]

her hand slipped past

[simple snow]

Even though I try to teach yk?

[hard yoke]

we're now closer to 2025 than 2026

[simple snow]

We're in 2025

[past pelican]

not in four hours

[simple snow]

???? What timezone are you???

[past pelican]

I just meant someone will be in 2026 then

[simple snow]

What time zone it’s that? TwT

[graceful flicker]

Yo, does anyone have all the "I was here for day _ of the subathon GIFs?"

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1455728925220016251/IMG_6528.gif

[simple snow]

Each day had multiple

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1455724125304651787/iwashere12.gif

[graceful flicker]

Tyty

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452572379564871812/1455364408795463710/IWasHere11.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1455007142602870908/Screenshot_2025-12-29_011814.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1455008415179870218/ezgif-45ea92de4798bb50.gif

[terse depot]

Chat, go to sleep like Neuro

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452572379564871812/1455007928036884612/IWasHere10.gif

[terse depot]

Also brush your teeth

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1455006939934359572/ag0vh2.gif

[terse depot]

A shower too while you're at it

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452572379564871812/1454620180570181797/IWasHere9.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452572379564871812/1454278934618181737/IWasHere8.gif

[terse depot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-tweak-tweaking-what-gif-1547006946285359423

[verbal lotus]

Chat, does it still count that I was here even though I slept early?

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1453905136563912766/IMG_8104.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452572379564871812/1453558709296042117/IWasHere6.gif

[terse depot]

End Self Posting

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1453180378385743892/copy_FFB65F9E-2016-4319-85D6-12F3F057692D.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452572379564871812/1453157153966657697/IWasHere5.gif

[terse depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378593428964900865/1455607055867052052/pokevil.gif

[simple snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452572379564871812/1452816126294884414/IWasHere4.gif

[past pelican]

wait, I was confused, disregard

[terse depot]

[simple snow]

I bet

https://i.imgur.com/d2i1bqG.gif

I’m out

[orchid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1455315654461620339/pokeliv.webp

[past pelican]

no, wait, I was NOT confused
yeah, it's Hawaii and Kiritimati Island
although, why is Hawaii also listed as UTC-10:00????

[calm needle]

cause it is

[past pelican]

ohhhh

[simple snow]

Some very small islands in 2026 ig

[past pelican]

I confused myself because Hawaii is 8 PM Dec 30th and Kiritimati Island is 8 PM Dec 31st

[simple snow]

Time and date are a construct

Tbh

We should celebrate new year at UTC 0 IMO

[past pelican]

you would think since Hawaii and Kiritimati Island lines up vertically, they'd have the same time
but no, no they do not

[twin plinth]

time is a construct

[simple snow]

Well the earth also isn’t a square

[past pelican]

for some reason one of them decided to be 24 hours later

[twin plinth]

she's been telling this since the Socratic update

[simple snow]

some people will grow up with like afternoon being new years and some with midnight or early morning. Like how some people have hot Christmas or even Christmas in the summer

[simple snow]

The Time lines have always been arbitrary

[past pelican]

but look at the map, that's not the reason...

[simple snow]

Walk in a circle at the North Pole and you’re going through TONS of timezones

[simple snow]

I can’t read

[past pelican]

well, the image that was posted is also very smol

[glacial orchid]

Wazzup

[kindred pine]

yuh

[carmine sparrow]

Just realized that the vod getting deleted also deleted all the twitch clips of the vod that's kinda fucked up there were some good clips from those two days

[terse depot]

Post your favorite one

||:^)||

[carmine sparrow]

I still have the links they're just dead and I'm too lazy to go clip them out of the vod archive

[tropic flame]

chat is there a stream today

u know since it's the new years

[kindred pine]

ye

same as last year ig

[bitter stratus]

ellie collab in vr chat

[calm needle]

evil karaoke in morning too

something planned for new years

[bitter stratus]

oh we're breaking the hype train record again on ny

[errant hatch]

i made a tierlist of the minigame upgrades https://tiermaker.com/categories/random/neuro-sama-3rd-subathon-sleep-minigame-upgrades-19006586

heres mine "

[calm needle]

144p mhm

cool seeing all their names though

[errant hatch]

hey man i just grabbed screenshots off the stream i tried my best

[calm needle]

just need a big monitor and max quality

though its probably just been hit with triple compression

[glacial orchid]

Ngl drone bay spam kinda good if abandoned archive and karaoke shows up early

[carmine sparrow]

If you use the clip editor to zoom in on the vertical splitscreen format you can get reasonable quality images of the minigames

[errant hatch]

ok i will keep these things in mind for the next time i make a tierlist of things on a twitch stream

it could be worse

[carmine sparrow]

you can probably do better than this too if you actually render the clip then screenshot it in fullscreen but that's a lot more work

[frail mountain]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 21 cookies! | I've received 266052 cookies total!

[cobalt iron]

good morning livers

[errant hatch]

good night live-ers

[frail mountain]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 22 cookies! | I've received 266054 cookies total!

[cobalt iron]

no snow outside on new year's eve.. this is depressing

[vapid elm]

das normal for me

too hot in tejas

[cobalt iron]

tejas

[restive bay]

neuro wakes up in 2026 in my timezone

crazy

[vapid elm]

I spelt it like that on purpose

[glacial orchid]

You could say she slept for a year

[restive bay]

in 4.5h i will be able to say shes been sleeping since last year

[hollow kernel]

I will put Hide & Seek as B. It depends on the defense percentage. And the defense will be 0 when the skill activates

[lone jacinth]

I see the comeback mechanic in the minigame also helps the losing side in events

[frail mountain]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 1 cookie! | I've received 266057 cookies total!

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 1 cookie! | I've received 266058 cookies total!

[slender echo]

same

[restive bay]

🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺

[slender echo]

🇦🇺 🇦🇺

[red escarp]

1am gang

[brisk stream]

it's 10am where i am

[slender echo]

I messed up my sleep schedule because of the pokemon streams ngl

[red escarp]

Same, 7pm just woke. I feel like a tutel

[carmine sparrow]

it's 2am I should probably go to bed

[formal dock]

Not Australian

[vapid elm]

how's it feel to be in the future

[marble sky]

can we get this guy stop spamming? it is abit annoying

[bitter stratus]

it's offline chat bro

[carmine sparrow]

I'm enjoying not being hot 😊

[formal dock]

Same, 28C is comfortable for me

[carmine sparrow]

it's actually pretty warm here rn ngl it's 0C

[calm needle]

offline chat is normal for this

they get timed out for spam automatically

they're much worse when there isn't a stream on

[vapid elm]

offline chatters know all the ways to get timed out byu fossabot

[calm needle]

yeah say g o o d n i g h t in there

[vapid elm]

say VINEGAR all caps

[tropic flame]

that's fucked up

[calm needle]

xdx

there are probably people in there with thousands of timeouts

[carmine sparrow]

fell for the oldest trick in the book

[mystic fiber]

@lone jacinth @keen snow sorry I am late but we can start now

[mystic fiber]

@glacial orchid @keen snow pick your class

:)

[keen snow]

Old one my b

[mystic fiber]

Ok…

So you are a fighter

[keen snow]

Forgot to make him lvl 3 lol

[mystic fiber]

Roll for health

d20

[mystic fiber]

Wow

[keen snow]

Is there a faster way of doing this or just back and forth it? I'm only phone rn

[mystic fiber]

You get 38 base HP

[keen snow]

Oh fuck yeah

[mystic fiber]

Using Google dice

Now what about gen

[keen snow]

Gen?

[mystic fiber]

Yeah, he said he could join

[keen snow]

O

Thought that was some other stat or something

[mystic fiber]

No

But where is gen

BTW, you all each get a backpack, with more than enough food and water

Your group also share a map

We need to wait for just a bit more people

[keen snow]

Gonna use all 8 of my charisma to romance a fish

[mystic fiber]

Bruh

[keen snow]

Are you tracking stats like health yourself or do I need to update the prof?

[mystic fiber]

Wait

You want to start now?

[keen snow]

Didnt we need more ppl?

I'd be cool to jw

[mystic fiber]

Yes, but it’s not a necessity

[keen snow]

I'm game if you are ig lol

[glacial orchid]

Im here now

[lone jacinth]

starting what now?

[mystic fiber]

Ooh

[glacial orchid]

I had to do something in the spirit of new year

[mystic fiber]

The New Year’s Eve special

Izi, Gen, choose your class

[lone jacinth]

sure thing, maybe I won't charm you to death in the next campaign

Can I be a ghost again? or is that too much?

[mystic fiber]

Eeh, it’s fine

Roll for health

[glacial orchid]

Berserker

[glacial orchid]

14

[lone jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/noooooooooo-gif-22984243

lost by 1...

[mystic fiber]

With your -5 health because you are a ghost, you have 21xp

[mystic fiber]

28

[lone jacinth]

only -5

[glacial orchid]

Lol

[mystic fiber]

Yes

[lone jacinth]

surely this won't come back to bite me at all

[glacial orchid]

You have buff that can only be damaged by magic

[mystic fiber]

Now

[keen snow]

I have like 40 health it'll be fine

[mystic fiber]

Campaign_start

[lone jacinth]

how much hp does Gen have?

[mystic fiber]

You are a bunch of explorers and skilled fighters. After a long year of exploration and fighting you finally see to the end of the year. Tired, you all decide to start heading back to your home town, dolmouth. Can you make it back before new year, and make it home safely?

[mystic fiber]

28

[lone jacinth]

ah I see

[glacial orchid]

2 front 1 ghost

[mystic fiber]

You are currently in the middle of the wilderness. There’s a trail, and you all have a map to share between you all. What will you do?

[lone jacinth]

what does the map say?

and can I steal it from whoever has it?

[mystic fiber]

YOU ALL SHARE

[mystic fiber]

Roll for perception

[lone jacinth]

WAit what?

why do I have to roll to read a map???

[keen snow]

Ghost

No eyes

[glacial orchid]

Can I roll too?

[lone jacinth]

ghosts really have no eyes....

[glacial orchid]

Makes sense

[lone jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-i-cannot-read-gif-10549564367608169258

[mystic fiber]

You try to read the map, but you are confused and could not decipher anything

[mystic fiber]

Yes

[keen snow]

Draco why dont you give it a read

[lone jacinth]

I would like to lead everyone very confidently even though I can't read for shit

[glacial orchid]

11

[glacial orchid]

Me name is gen

[keen snow]

The character name 😩

Was trying to be immersive😂

[glacial orchid]

Im a berserker rn

[mystic fiber]

You looked at the map. This is what you see:

[lone jacinth]

dam

production value right there

[mystic fiber]

Purple is ava
Yellow is gen
Red is izi

[mystic fiber]

Took me a day

[lone jacinth]

so nep, you're the one documenting this right?

[mystic fiber]

BTW I have more slides cooked up

[mystic fiber]

Yes

[lone jacinth]

I don't have to do it. Right?

[keen snow]

Cartographers were expensive alright😂

[mystic fiber]

No

[glacial orchid]

I say we go to the structure ,I sense dragons again

[mystic fiber]

What will you do

[mystic fiber]

You or you all?

[lone jacinth]

surely, you'll post all the images like I do. Right?

[keen snow]

Insist we head to the square with a triangle in it. They're structurally sound shapes

[lone jacinth]

good, glad to hear

[keen snow]

Can I roll persuasion

[mystic fiber]

Yes

[lone jacinth]

genius, I follow that logic

[mystic fiber]

Oh nvm

You all go

[lone jacinth]

I trust avo with my life

[mystic fiber]

You all are now at the front. It looks like a cosy home. The chimney is smoking, and there is a front door.

What will you do?

[glacial orchid]

I smash the door

[keen snow]

Send in the ghost?

[lone jacinth]

I want to faze through the wall to take a peak inside

trying not to be noticed you know, because that could cause problems

[keen snow]

Oh yeah. What's everyone's initiative on actions?

[mystic fiber]

Uhh

[glacial orchid]

Uhhhhhhh ,hmmmm let's go with yalls idea

[mystic fiber]

Wait a second

Break

Izi, you first

What are you doing

[lone jacinth]

(nep not planning for ghosts being able to faze through walls )

Fazing through a wall

[mystic fiber]

I was not planning you all would immediately start fighting

[lone jacinth]

what do you mean fighting?

[mystic fiber]

Anys where’s the image

So you want to phase through?

[lone jacinth]

yes, like on the side or something

[mystic fiber]

Ok

Roll for success

[mystic fiber]

Ok

You successfully phase through the house

[lone jacinth]

yoo! I can do basic ghost stuff!

surely I won't fail 3 screams in a row now

[mystic fiber]

You phased through the front door. There a person was standing, slightly frightened

But surprisingly he is seemingly not worried about your presence

[lone jacinth]

they fucking noticed me? I'm stupid!

[mystic fiber]

Gen, you next

[glacial orchid]

I knock on the door ,if person not open ,I smash door

[mystic fiber]

Don’t even need to roll

I was hoping you all just kindly knock

[glacial orchid]

Welp I did knock

[mystic fiber]

The person, unfazed by the ghost, opens the door and greets you and avo. He invites you to a meal.

[lone jacinth]

I mean I was planning on just popping my head in to check and then pop back out, but apparently it takes a bit more effort than anticipated to go through the wall

[mystic fiber]

What action will you do

[keen snow]

Check meal for poison by eating it

[mystic fiber]

Fine, you are also outside and invited

[lone jacinth]

ah great

[mystic fiber]

So you all enter the house?

[keen snow]

I do

[glacial orchid]

Sure

[lone jacinth]

"Looks like a normal house guys"

[keen snow]

I also tell them thank you cuz manners

[lone jacinth]

Surely nothing bad will happen

[mystic fiber]

Ok

[glacial orchid]

I greet happy new years eve

[mystic fiber]

You all are sitting at a large table. He then gives you many food

How would you like to feast? He asked

[lone jacinth]

ah, I love "many food"

[mystic fiber]

Does anyone have dietary requirements? He asks as well

[glacial orchid]

In Diligently formal etiquette

[mystic fiber]

This is the scene

[mystic fiber]

Ok

[keen snow]

I prefer to dine with my with my hands (hermit bg)

[lone jacinth]

"I would love it if I didn't have any vegetables!"

[glacial orchid]

May I ask why the person seems alone?

[lone jacinth]

Wait nep, can I go out of bounds?

is that part of my skill set?

[mystic fiber]

You all take your time to eat, enjoying a well earned feast after your journeys

[mystic fiber]

No

[mystic fiber]

Because I don’t want to draw in all the others

Trust me, they are there

[glacial orchid]

Ohhhhhh ,I thought it was lore lol

[mystic fiber]

No

[lone jacinth]

damit all

so how many are there?

[keen snow]

I wanna roll to look for anything odd about this person's home. Multiple beds, different pairs of shoes

[mystic fiber]

After you finish feasting, you are all quite full. Will you head out or thank him?

[mystic fiber]

All the circles you see there

[lone jacinth]

Thank him, obviously

[keen snow]

Also thank him

[lone jacinth]

Oh, I thought they were chairs

[mystic fiber]

Yes

[mystic fiber]

You two roll for charisma

[glacial orchid]

Thank him

[keen snow]

It's pretty suspicious there's like 12 people in what was called a small cozy cottage

[mystic fiber]

All three

[keen snow]

Is that just d20?

[mystic fiber]

Don’t ask

Yes

All three roll for charisma

[glacial orchid]

13

[mystic fiber]

Ooh

[lone jacinth]

you can just type in d20 into google

and roll from there

it's easier

[keen snow]

It's probably faster lol but these dice are also cooler

[lone jacinth]

true true

[mystic fiber]

You all thank him for letting you eat. He feels grateful. But he felt the especially heartwarming thank from avo, and decide to gift him a present “for your journey” he says

You now all head out

[lone jacinth]

so evo's is especially heartwarming, but mine isn't???

I am now depressed

[keen snow]

You dont have a heart

You're a ghost

[lone jacinth]

But I have feelings!

[mystic fiber]

Now, what do you want to do

[keen snow]

Check the pond across the way?

[glacial orchid]

Go to the lake of some sort

[lone jacinth]

Cry by the blue blob

[keen snow]

Unanimous decision is crazy

[lone jacinth]

blue blobs are always good to cry by in my experience

[mystic fiber]

You all head to the lake. It is crystal clear. The lake also seems quite perfect. Not too shallow, not too deep.

[glacial orchid]

I swim for relaxing

[mystic fiber]

It is almost pristine

[keen snow]

I'd like to roll to see if creatures are camping the local water source

[lone jacinth]

I curl up in a ball a little away the shore 'i am insufficient.. am i even real?.' sob..

[mystic fiber]

You go in for a swim. Surprisingly in the slightly cold weather the lake is actually quite warm. Like a warm blanket

(Guys no this is not a magical lake, just a perfect one)

[keen snow]

I'm just assuming like normal lakes predators wait around for prey to get water. I don't want eaten

[lone jacinth]

(ah, perfect lakes always have monsters don't they?)

[mystic fiber]

“Am I real? Am I real? If I can feel?”🎶

[mystic fiber]

Uhh, so what will you do?

[lone jacinth]

"AHH! IT'S A GHOST!"

[keen snow]

Rolling to check the surrounding area for hostile creatures

[glacial orchid]

I dozed off floating in the surface reminiscing ,making me dream of an ideal universe

[lone jacinth]

I fall over in fear

[keen snow]

If I get a "nah" even on a 20 its chill lol

[mystic fiber]

You had a nice rest on top of the calm waters. You feel energised

[keen snow]

Starting to think this site is righed

Rigged

[mystic fiber]

You fall over into the water. Roll to not drown

[lone jacinth]

a ghost can drown?

[glacial orchid]

Nahhh its just luck speedrunning deduction

[mystic fiber]

You find a small squirrel

[mystic fiber]

Yes, now roll

[lone jacinth]

I learn something new everyday

[mystic fiber]

Ok you manage to get back. You are not hurt

[glacial orchid]

I get out of the water to drag avo in

[mystic fiber]

Ok. What is the next course of action

[lone jacinth]

'ah.. even the lake is trying to kill me.. perhaps I do not deserve to exist in a perfect world..'

[mystic fiber]

“If there are no monsters, I will be the monsters” ahh vibes

[keen snow]

Character has terrible bloody thoughts. I wanna roll to kick the squirrel

[glacial orchid]

Rip

[mystic fiber]

Roll for dexterity as well

So D20

Need to be above 17

[mystic fiber]

Squirrels are fast

[keen snow]

Dexter has +1 only got 16

[mystic fiber]

You go and try to smush it to death, but the squirrel is too fast and runs away, never to be seen again

[lone jacinth]

we don't usually do modifiers in improve dnd

[keen snow]

No?

[glacial orchid]

Don't use the advantage on the character sheet cause this is only vibes

[mystic fiber]

Yeah

[lone jacinth]

not normally, unless the dm says so

[keen snow]

O. Didnt with others but thought we were

[mystic fiber]

Now, will you all continue (please)

[keen snow]

Does the map show us anything else or just this road?

[mystic fiber]

The map showed you that entire photo

[lone jacinth]

what a worthless map

[keen snow]

I suppose we should continue on then

[mystic fiber]

This is everything you saw

[mystic fiber]

Well because you did not roll high enough to see annotations

[keen snow]

Along the road I mean

[mystic fiber]

Ok

[lone jacinth]

I couldn't even read this map..

Well, I'm not known for my intelligence

[mystic fiber]

Unfortunately you all need to reroll for perception to see the map again

[glacial orchid]

4

[keen snow]

I never actually rolled for it I think so im on it

[mystic fiber]

Oof

[keen snow]

Nvm me and gen are fuckin illiterate. 4

[glacial orchid]

I think im still daydreaming about the lake

[mystic fiber]

You drank one too many bottles of rum in the house, and now you can’t think straight. You can’t even speak English now

[lone jacinth]

"Ohhh.. is that what you guys were looking at."

[mystic fiber]

You finally see the map

But only a part of it

[glacial orchid]

Bfuj

[lone jacinth]

this party just can't read

[keen snow]

"What mad genius devised this map!? It's indecipherable"

[glacial orchid]

Wa yll tkin bout

[keen snow]

Left always left fellas

[mystic fiber]

Avo, are you going to roll?

[keen snow]

On the map? I rolled a 4

[mystic fiber]

Oof

[lone jacinth]

that only works in mazes

[keen snow]

Works everywhere else too I've found

[mystic fiber]

Ok, you all wanna head left?

[lone jacinth]

in like a forest or something that almost never works

[keen snow]

I vote left

You guys?

[lone jacinth]

sure fine, I'd rather go straight but that doesn't look like an option

[mystic fiber]

Ok

[keen snow]

Mystery 4th voter

[mystic fiber]

This is what you found

A campsite

[keen snow]

We shouldn't have gone left why did you suggest this, apparition?

[lone jacinth]

I told you it doesn't work in forests

Well, I go to the circle

I assume it's a rock and sit on it

[keen snow]

Anybody at the campsite? Or is it abandoned

[glacial orchid]

I barge in enthusiastically

[mystic fiber]

A public campsite

[hazy horizon]

im sleeping next to the campsite, not interactable, just an asleep npc

[lone jacinth]

so.. that wasn't a rock?

[keen snow]

Roll to punch this guy

[mystic fiber]

NO!

[lone jacinth]

Did I sit on a fire?

[mystic fiber]

Wait wut

[keen snow]

Aye ghost, it would appear it was a sleeping traveler

[mystic fiber]

Yes

I will roll for your damage

[lone jacinth]

Why can't I not take damage as a ghost?

[hazy horizon]

idk i woke up into this and im going to work

[lone jacinth]

I just wanna be stupid without suffering from any consequences..

[mystic fiber]

Oof

5 damage for 2 rounds

[lone jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-gif-18622447

[keen snow]

Because suddenly realizing it was a fire and it didn't bother you until it burnt is funny

[mystic fiber]

Anyone going to end his suffering?

[lone jacinth]

I operate off of cartoon logic and I'm just as stupid

[calm needle]

skeleton is sleeping I think

[keen snow]

Water skin, throw water at the ghostly companion

[mystic fiber]

FINALLY, YOU KNOW HOW I FELT

[mystic fiber]

Roll

[keen snow]

Is that a roll or passive action ope nvm

[mystic fiber]

Roll

For accuracy

[keen snow]

10

[lone jacinth]

But you deserved it is the difference, you can't tell me licking a clearly corrupted egg deserves any other response

[mystic fiber]

Ok, you splash him. He is fine, but his burns will still make him take 2 damage the next round

[keen snow]

Safe is our apparition!

[mystic fiber]

Anyways Gen what you do?

[lone jacinth]

anyways, now that I'm not on fire

can I look around to see what this campsite is about?

[mystic fiber]

Will you step off the campfire?

[keen snow]

😂

[lone jacinth]

obviously I jumped up and ran around screaming when I realized I was sitting on it and burst into flames

[mystic fiber]

Ok

Roll for perception

[mystic fiber]

Ooh

[lone jacinth]

Well, I can't read but I sure can see

[hazy horizon]

fid he perceive my sleepy ass over there?

[keen snow]

Still waiting on my roll to punch your npc buddy

[mystic fiber]

You look around. You see a sign
“Dolmouth trail public camp
For people who are tired, these tents are for free public use. Please do not sit on the campfire. If you need any resources, every tent has first aid and supplies”

[mystic fiber]

No

[lone jacinth]

"'Please do not sit on the campfire' this is clearly slander!"

[mystic fiber]

No comment

[lone jacinth]

I am now angry

[hazy horizon]

shampoo has instructions because of you man

😘