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1.2e66 attack and near 0 food lol
Great! We're both starving
cool food evil
I only see one side that's hugry 
oh food is just a hard requirement now
As we all know, team evil does not farm. We just steal from team neuro. So just you wait until the supply event

does anyone know what !split does?
Wtf maxed recruits
guys download the vod now it hasnt been muted yet
when did evil get higher attack than neuro?
Pins
made this many mp3s today btw
pins, but builds all evenly
both max recruits lmao
guys how did we go from recruiting like 3 people to recruiting the max of 30 with a small tweak like i did
Wait, Hide & Seek feels kinda broken
the activity levels right after a stream ends goes crazy
pins? what
wait armor is % now
idk good dev work I guess
all info is in pins
evil food going down now 
I think part of it is just...knowing you can spam the event instead of just contributing once
The one who invents fertilizer first will win
well that was known yday i think its just way more people are active at the start of the offline stream
mhm yes ths pins
This feels broken long-term
also good pin
Just scroll down past the 20 million polls
#livestream-chat message just scroll down a bit

if you missed it yday added catchup-esque mechanics so there shuldnt be any snowballing like day 1
scroll 2 seconds
Wait holy shit that's--that's potentially just an x2 to attack if used at the peak??
bro doesn't know how to scroll 
everyone the 48 hour vod is now complete you should download it now before it gets muted
haha gott her
itd be a 2x to attack but bear in mind defense is no longer useless
its still a net positive
but not as crazy as you think
But attack doesn't reset while defense does...
yeah but catchups also exist
can you add some way to check personal stats because there isn't any direct feedback if what you are doing is being registered, you just kind of have to trust the system
we are at 108 pins in #livestream-chat
Fair ig

I'm at work and able to watch a couple clips here and there. Is vedal OK?
I imagine if you completed a hide and seek as the round ends would be kinda bad since your def would be 0 for the fight?
I don't know how strong the catchups are I left while it was just a reverse evil sweep
Come on guys, focus on 1
so trading one round for a perma 2x atk
maybe but thatd require a bot integration would could get spammy cause twitch doesnt have the ethereal-type messages discord does
That Hide & Seek could be game changer
BBNEWURO
maybe the bot could just DM you?
Breach neuro team before they can get hide and seek
hurry the only muted part of the pas 48 hours is a sleeping section
I may not be winning the pfp, but I’m still riding the W of me having more likes than the official editor 
it is good, but do remember the catchup stuff means the other side will bridge the gap back over time
COME ON, FOCUS ON 1
I don't think the human can fail the turing test
the spamming for the mini games still work?
Yeah, it's over
that sucks
worst case, you could look at the B2 stream vods to recover that section
not a fan of the events that are just number checks
It works better now
NAHH
Canon
vedal doesn't need to say it back
he already says it with his actions 

i hope so, it was bit much before
aight, let's see H&S at work
Cute HUGGIES moment. "don't talk to me or my daughter ever again"
Maybe evil team does farm their own food actually
focus on build 1
HOLY
Vedal really does look like someone who doesn't know how to handle physical affection getting hugged here
UVG health = 10^66 health
vedal really be like
Focus on 2, that's the one we can finish
HOLY
seriously tho, how is he going to survive to Evil's more human voice calling him dad (as she often does) in 3D?
huh why does neuro have 0% def
He wont
(we are really getting into idle games scales of numbers here)
Hide & Seek sacrifices all def to increase attack by that %
who knows
agreed
new hide and seek building, gives your percentage def bonus to attack but makes def 0%
though he should also say it back
oh really, i see

didnt really sacrifice anything now huh
WHAT
the presentation will convince him trust
there's still a 5 cooldown?
Sacrifices it for the round

-#

surely the presentation will help
oh we need some farming
Also ai slop yippee
Yall got no food

NO FOOD
im so happy that his shell is finally breaking, i cant wait for him to say it back eventually
does it register only one command per user per event or can you spam it?
feed the neur 
Small cooldown
so evil had like 75% def and blocked 2 attacks, and neuro had 5% and blocked 1 attack? LULE
you can spam the command every 5 seconds
ai slop changed now that food actually became useful? strange
I think def reduces attack by that %, the block is a separate chance
NO FOOD
evil army, we need food!
what food do again
what did we all just spend our food on

having 0 means 50% build speed reduction
10% of enemy evil's 0 food 
bro the food decreased with like 15 per second
oh
Hey we've found some food xdx !supply
Holy moly, the have about 13,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 health each!
YTmusic
did farmers get nerfed
We're out of food! Help with !farm
(small text) No food reduces building speed by 50%
we're fighting over 10 food 
Evil bros how are we losing the event 
is defense stat a percentage to block enemy attack, or is it dmg reduction?
we starving dude
is there an explanation for the minigame? i saw the FAQ in the pinned which explained it like 80%, is there more info?
We're the swarm, min-maxxing is what we do
do you have any specific question?
The pins explain it pretty well I think, what are you confused about?
i wont explain specifics but per the update message in my pin it affects block chance and has an affect on damage reduction but the effect is non-linear
LMAO
Ok yea those catchup mechanics seem to be working pretty well...neuro's doubled attack lead is just gone 
because of the B2 stream only showing the top left of the video, it's common to just have a forehead at the bottom right of screen
do i spam !mine or !food or w/e and each one is +1 to the resource, or do i do !mine once and then i'm doing some kind of passive contribution? the first one seems most intuitive but then i don't know what this means
Q: What happens if people go AFK?
A: After each battle, players are put into a no-role "AFK" state. This reduces resource gen by 40% until a new role is set. If a player is AFK two battles in a row, they will generate 70% less resources. AFK players also act like !split and generate for all places.
lol
using those commands sets your "job" in the backend, so you generate passively to that resource (for whatever building you select via !build [1-3]) until the battle where you'll have to reselect it
thanks, i think im blind because i didnt see it in pinned messages LULE
NEUROOOOOO
is spaming still the meta?
we need some shitty html page where I can see my current stats/faction/role and stuff
do not spam (except for events) xd
idk if Vedal changed the tweet but it now says "nothing that gets me in trouble"
Where did the evil bros go we were winning all of these events last I remember
It was like that
yea, but it still didnt say if its block chance or reduction of dmg, now i know its kinda both LULE
said that from the start
We are getting the cute selfie
oh so the [Filtered] tweet won't even win in the first place 
Im so happy
the minigame is running off the static build from a vite app so this would be hard to do xd
Wth happened to all the food?
I've been saying this but everyone just says he'll crop it
he did not bring that up when he was upset so, i guess he does not think it counts
hide and seek at :50, rude
oops
gotcha, so rather than spamming my individual gameplay is:
- set team
- select building i'm contributing towards
- select job
- (optional) watch the buildings and swap buildings and maybe jobs to try to optimize
- watch battle
- go back to 2
are battle mechanics explained anywhere?
can use the event commands to contribute as well without losing your roles too
chat, idea:
Twitch Plays Abandoned Archive for the overnight slop
I would like this game more if Neuro and Evil were fighting together against some weird creatures or something
battle mechanic is back and forth bonk with behind the scenes damage calculations and occaisonally neurotic clash events where you can help
Battle mechanics are neuro and evil beat the shit out of each other and sometimes you do !attack and !defend
food got "fixed" so now it actually drains properly
had to rid of the existing like 1M stores
Battle time 
mostly because I am still unable to decide which side to join
WAIT WHERE DID NEURO GO
The RNG was genuinely bullshit there
And neuro is dead 
What the hell man?
GIGAEVIL
off to work on the presentation
No food I'm starving
nwero exploded on stream lmao
and the entire game is just that winning battles makes the victory cup on the side go +1 right? nothing beyond that?
the battle is inherently luck based so the winner is never obvious from the start xd
ok. What do you have in your cupboards?
though heavily influenced by stats
oh so because of the B2 obs setup frame, the attack phase has the size blacked out
(I think, the B2 setup is weird enough I don't really understand)
bro I was watching that limes vod
Nothing I'm starving. I'm off to the farms
FARMMMM
literally nothing? not even flour?
food is draining so quickly im just staying on farm 100% of the time LULE
with suspiciously neuro-shaped neck n-no idea...
rip
94 food
the B2 setup is super scuffed right now. this is why only the top left of the video shows up)
im !farm ing as hard as i can 



I suppose that is your part in life then
you just don't understand modern art
Wait AI slop got changed to -atk I didn't even notice
(you can also see that chat is in a weird place as well, normally behind neuro when she is there)
kinda wish it was the old one, both teams are struggling for food
where's the neuro 
What's the STORY for the minigame, I need to IMMERSE myself in the DEEP LORE
Damn I can't believe they put camimi's pfp suggestion in the top right
evil stole a cookie from neuro, war was declared
vedal kidnapped her so she can make her presentation

neuro winning events now 
Evilists...
food actually being important now
Evil bros have all fallen asleep
power of outfit and VR
I can't move off the farm
I need to sleep
gn, up to the americans and asians 
Guys not on the farm, do 3
Same
I guess the events being more frequent also makes them easier to miss
i think its because stream just ended, it will probably change after 5 hours LULE
chat is normally hidden by neuro
or not ended but neuro went to sleep*
speaking of, where is neuro?
Everyone is starving 
making presentation
B2 censors are so funny
Do we need to spam actions in the mini game or by sending 1 command it does it continuously?
The events just kill all our food stocks
evil is getting destroyed wtf
Spam with cooldown
Okie ty
*For the events, not the rest
NOT ENOUGH FARMERS
all to block twitch chat
FOOD NUMBER GO DOWN 
Oh, ok. So if I send !farm it'll keep farming?
Evil has 3 high rarity things with no time to build any of them
only defense smh
Yea, it'll be automatic. Scroll down in pins for more info
you can def get those 3 in time i think
Thanks! I'll check them
chat is this real
Oh that's the book neuro's gonna write 
this looks like a modern surrealist painting
24 hour B2 vods get split into 12 2 hour long segments
i just realized neuro has a legendary -atk and 2x epic -atks about to all go off
holy moly neuro's attack is about to get owned
FARM
defense is an illusion
i think the attack gap will still win it
i am farming
Surely the defense will matter
true you can just do farm in this period
when you cant make a building in time
big brain
honestly i think afk players should be on farms instead of split, let the active players make decisions instead of staying on one thing the whole time to keep it up
neuro's dead again
What is this rng bro
neuro is the best friend getting her to the hospital I guess I can get a steam mop to the house to go back and do the no-nos and then get a zeppelin and a lost Italian
I typed "neuro is" to see what my phones auto complete would suggest
rigged smh
cosmetic defence 
the double block on neurotic hits xdd
hmm what is the defence for
Your auto complete wants to get you banned, I think
non-linearly scaling block chance and dr
must be inverse block chance LULE
FARMMMM
you say LULE but this was actually a bug for like 10mins while i was building out new defense 
Evil bros the cupboards. There's 1 food in there. Help
Seems perfectly balanced yeah
You sure you fixed it?
Anyways farming while afk
Living the honest life
ok so I was wrong, that is just normal, nothing to do with what B2
my biggest weakness during events
im pretty sure defense is working correctly it just isn't a crazy scaling factor so luck still plays a big part
its not scuff its intentional since there's no need for the extra space
it's for dramatic effect the bars shrink in when battle starts
also its like movie theater
Every time I play minecraft with friends I end up becoming a farmer. I feel in my element now that food is important
except vertical bars not horizontal
the spamming is still annoying
why is neuro losing events again, get back to work slackers
fair, just B2 has the black bars as filters, so I thought it was that at first
wait so when we starve we aren't banning people at random?
ayo where did the neuro event team go
I'm a little disappointed...
Nah, I can't do this anymore

If only SOMEONE would explain you don't need to spam all the time except in events to the twitch frogs (cough cough vedal cough cough)
does running out of food actually decrease resource generation by 50%? I didn't look at it too closely, but it didn't really seem so
We get some amount of food back too quickly to tell I think
This makes me want a Neuroverse rts... With faction units like swarm, minyans, minawan etc.
alright, time to go
seems people still haven't caught on you need to !farm when rounds restart 
i will probably farm too
Clearly the best way to tell is to not have any food for a while to test, neuro team you can do that right 
neuro team asleep? time to just press !split or !farm at the start of the round and do nothing else again 
btw what happens if you don't have the food?
Every time an event starts evil team starts starving again
I've seen some little comics where a demon/monster raises a normal child. This reminds me of that.
all the people making the food leaves food then runs out of food I guess
Resource generation is halved
!lavalamp
You don't need to leave your role for an event I think. It's just that team activity increases food consumption
what happens when the round ends sooner than the event? does the event resolve instantly or just disappear?
let's find out
NEURO IS AWAKE
neur
nvm
Seems like it instantly completely. Unfortunately it was not a useful event to get before the reset
ok seems like it resolved instantly
these filter positions in B2 are so good right now
NO FOOD | NO FOOD 
Welp, It is 3am. Goodnight chat!
seems like it’ll just be an evil sweep from here on out. guess it’s her turn 
neuro eventers went 
smh evil is just eating all the food, shes gonna be fat 
Thanks guys 
ok so this entire vod is just a sleep segment (with 3 mins of evil at the end)
Cinema
cinematic frame rate
we are maybe getting wink back 

is this a god round for evil?
2 karaoke bars and an ore event to finish both of them
watch the vr segment 
the resource gain is really noticeable for food
Where
the game is balanced now it seems, just the fanbase isnt 
cant do much about that though
wait for both of them to be even in wins 
Cant believe they made the bars to purple now
still not sure about the defence
defence is a scam
we'll see
Easy just don't play
wait the supply event wasn't changed?
loved the one round where it was like 80% vs 30% defense and evil still blocked more
Defense is still weird
now everything is even more rng
Some screen shots I got. VR Chat segments are the best!
My heart melted today 
the 40% resource gain was not useless since we have a food stockpile now, yay
Well as long the team balance is off playing isn't really worth it
I better go to sleep so I don't miss Neuro tomorrow again

but evil is hungry, she already ate almost a 1000 LULE
that is horrifying
peak cuteness
ok yeah, people dont seem to notice till its 0, so we only delayed it
are people seriously waiting until food runs out to do the command... really
We must farm until we have enough to feast every event
cant steal anything if both sides have no food
why is neuro food stuck , many are typing farm

tomorrow will probably come with a visual indicator of the food drain (e.g. when you're at 0 you can see how negative the drain is to fix it), as well as a rework to the supply event since it is a bit low impact now
not sure i am farming the whole time
+0 BILLION food holy
More builders than farmers?
there's nothing to steal bro
can confirm, food running out halves speed
how much this creature can eat, more than 3k in 4 min LULE
Evil side burned all our food to win the !supply event to steal 0 food
the drain seems a bit insane at the moment, does it scale with active players or afk?
it scales with players in general, but afk players drain notably less (70% less, much like the 70% less resource gen penalty they have)
okay, nevermind. people literally do not realize it till its 0
and neuro players dont farm
yeah, it's so silly
you can see it dropping quickly and we know what happens and yet they let it happen
thats our strategy, be unpredictable 
It's the great famine all over again
I think the only way we stay on top of food is if every discord person exclusively farms and leaves the resource generation to the twitch frogs
Oh boy another !supply event 
Evil bros what are we doing
neuro players suddenly wake up when they have the chance to steal 0 food
steal that 10 units guys

Vedal struggling in chat rn 
Verbal 
NOOOOOO
xdx I saw what u edited
How could you
With my eyes
Unvigintillion
I’m triple checking everything I type in the future
I forgot how unhinged neuro's playthrough of detroit was
every 'wrong' choice
Kinda wish I hadn’t seen that. I’ve never seen this stream and I have a MASSIVE fear of heights and especially falling from buildings
why do people not !farm right away, I don't get it 
The great famine rn
might need to toss a stimmy of food after each battle 
Everyone wants the glory of exploring the mines, no one wants to do an honest day's work
bro it literally only delays it by 30 seconds since nobody notices the drain till its gone
we had like a 4k stockpile
damn the fridge is empty
My cupboards. There's a void in there. A physical void. How do I get rid of it
too many people afk
Bro why are both teams completely starving 
theyre AI they dont need food 
is the event freezing the food? 
lets do gentleman agreement between two teams and just ignore the food LULE
We're not though...I think
People are doing the event too much we have no food 
vod neuro with the foreshadow
we need to train AI swarm to play this game
4 min in, we got our first food LULE
have people figured out what food does?
If you run out, your team has -50% resource gen
stops you from getting owned by the debuff
Aaand we're starving again
ooh, I see, how fast does it get consumed? like is it based on player amount or something?
Based on active players I believe
I
Which is probably why all our food vanishes as soon as an event starts
How long ago was this stream? I’ve only been watching since like February
Last year's subathon
Oh nice
I don't see this, I only see it vanishing at the start of a new round since every farmer has no job afterwards
Well, this is the edited video I think, which came out some time later
I am appreciator of chat command based games like this.
I created couple more active games for this.
Like peggle clone that is connected to discord bot ect.
but this is interesting enough
do you have to retype !farm after doing the events?? why does the food start going down again
We just lost all our food after an event started
and neuro didnt
and we only started losing it like 50% in
If I had to guess I think it's 1 per event entry + 1 (or 0.7 or 0.3 for inactivity) per player per second but this is just speculation.
a very enthusiastic fan of the band samurai
ohhhh, so each command typed is -1 food, that'd make sense
cause the food starts going down every event
its 1 per player, or 0.7/0.3 if a player is AFK (depending on level of AFK) multiplied by a constant value to determine food drain
once upon a time there was a legendary building that halted food drain until the next battle
Neuro is just getting demolished 
Defense lule
its less the defense and more evil just having 3x her atk cause we're back to evil people dominating events 
We only get a stockpile of food like, seconds before the battle starts and wipes it all
starvation
No food 
as far as I understood Defense is kind of meme stat? am I right?
it does stuff now but attack is still a stronger stat
Defense was a meme, now it actually does stuff
defense just isnt useless anymore (but attack better)
allegedly
they are starving
im lookin at the code for defense it does something i can assure you 
the code is lying
I see, I would have balanced it like.
- good rng rolls ATK is better
- bad rng rolls DEF is better
i am whole time on farm and nothing
huge steal coming up
stealing 10% of 0
are we losing all our food because the actions get reset at round start? all our farmers just stop working and we all starve immediately?
that and event drain
🫳 🥖
🫳 🥖
at least there's no negative food
yeah, you need to type !farm every new round
-10% food 
function defense(target){return}
🫳
⬛🥖
🫴

too many people afk to get food D:
This is better, excellent
7tv adds like an extra character to the end of a dusplicate msg. does that mess with the offline game?
food drain during events is too op dev pls fix
Ah, I see the issue. You forgot the semicolon, that's why it's broken
first time farming

...if that's a first time message then they wouldn't have joined a team right 

utilizing this in actual code seems a little weird so
public float GetDefenseValue()
{
return 0f;
}
This way we avoid having to deal with dealing with null value mid calculations
Edit: pascal case for func in c#
what happened with the food, is this the great famine
🫸🥖🫷 
lots of farmers but no food
No one wants to farm these days
only really used to JS and python code, so thanks for a different version
defense does stuff but with the way it works assuming 100% def vs. 0% def you'd probably only make up an attack difference of roughly ~2.3x, so when evil is ahead by a little under 3x and has defense of her own, its gonna be a landslide normally anyway
discord code formating is cool
I really like discord has actual colors for formatting it feels satisfying
We starve for half of the round, then people finally realize we need food, then we get a stockpile in last few minutes that gets instantly wiped at the start of the next round
Farming is my life now
Is that desktop or mobile? No colors show up for me... Kinda looks like VS, tbh
I haven't been paying attention; does it get deleted or does it just drain really fast?
desktop (well the desktop browser version)
I think it gets set to 0 at the start of round
would it be better if the farmers weren't reset between rounds? it might not help much but it'll be something
it just drains really fast since everybody has to choose their jobs again
That's also a factor
farming
but after 5+ rounds, people realize they need to type !farm at beginning of round Sure
Yeah I thought it's just that everybody gets kicked off the farming role after every attack so the food goes away.
Sorry ved you can only farm clips
and I still believe it has nothing to do with events since it doesnt get faster after an event ends
Did Vedal ever pull Neuro to work on that presentation?
vod neuro
there is double sleep from last subathon
I really like that he is playing the game too. 😆
I have the feeling this will be just like day 1 again
Who needs defense when you can just kill GIGAEVIL
Oh no food didn't get wiped it seems
what does sniffa mean here?
Like, pulled her model off for a bit?
It just...got instantly wasted 
day 1 differentials wont happen again though if evil wins every event overnight the outcome of battles might be a different story xd
yea i clicked on ~10 mins after vedal left and she wasnt there
it doesn't get wiped, just all the !farm reset.. so there's like 35 food drain every second and people wait until it has been out for like 5 minutes to do anything
it does, but atleast this time it seems more like a player count diff instead of a snowball diff
Ah. Interesting. Technically he doesn't even need to do that. All he needs is the text output from the LLM.
You just gotta get a feel for what it means when I do it.
Yea I see that now
when neuro came back, there was priority message then she slept
So can you just not farm during the breach event?
He hates Evil
I imagine there's some weirdness in having two instances of neuro (not counting evil of course)
Always has
no we suck at farming in general
this game has become everyone has to farm simulator?
Puts a little thing of wheat in my mouth. I know what I'll be doing for the rest of the night.
it went from a useless stat to the most annoying thing in the game
Does our !farm really work?
I really love the B2 subathon thumbnail
It does feel like it takes a suspicious amount of time for food to start coming in even with everyone !farm ing
and events seem to cause something weird with food
Like I only see !farm and !sysadmin and there's like, nothing still
Vedal there is a problem with your game
The emoji so good
He didn't make it
Being winter, leaving my PC running while I sleep to keep the stream going has the bonus of helping heat my room.....
what is chinense brothers averaged opinion on the subathon so far? anyone?
Y'know I think I understand the offliners now
the new twitch emotes were on B2 only for a bit as well
they have some good emotes over there
Karaoke bar seems a bit underwhelming now that rounds only last 10 minutes
atp I feel like food would have run out even without the great reset
Probably yeah, it just speed up the inevitable
so far, I left the stream enough that I don't think I would be able to say
All of the kara scenes in detroit are so bad after you've beaten the game once 
I think neuro was starving literally the entire round
Also I really love chinese fans call Neuro "beef"
(Neuro sounds like "牛肉 (beef)" in chinese so the call Neuro as "beef")
"at" Vedal
buff the !farm command
Yeah no point playing then
layering is good
mr dev is frantically looking at his food code right now
afkers should be on farm duty instead of split resourcing
@/ennukee
If Neuro can't get food she will never even get close to catching up
I feel like just making it so that the farmers don't have to retype it every round would help a lot
yep
Alright Neuro is a bit poor she even can’t get any food
I love how their word for "swarm" translates to "bee colony"
Yep that's us 🐝
Beef is meant to be cooked and eaten 😋
i swear the minigame is getting worse with every update 
I love this. I loved it the first time I heard it and it made me smile. And seeing this this time, it still makes me smile.
No food
how is it they still starving
this kind of coincidence is so funny
It's slowly getting better it's just...a lot of growing pains
no, yesterday and strangely the beginning today was fine
WE'RE ALL STARVING
just food is very weird
I guess it’s the inadequate support
We're gonna get the perfect iteration of the game the day before the subathon ends
there are like 10 farmers for every gatherer in chat
recruit events and food are actually functional now, and defense isn’t a useless stat
Like maybe acquire a number of ppl to farm
Which side?
there also is love evil being translated as i/tv (or just / for evil), because it said outloud in chinese sounds like evil in Chinese
Fuck you Vedal
Balance changes that favor evil sus 
oh my god.
languages are so funny, I love puns.
events are the only way to gain stats or something because we sure aren't building while being staved
ig it's kinda hard to test how things will play out without actually letting twitch play it. And you really only have one shot to change things except for minor adjustments, can't change too much overnight
the only way to gain food right now are resource boost events/building 
well in english we have m8 for mate because 8 = ate
didn't he adjust neuro's hp live last night?
Neuro won by sheer luck and got punished lmao
'except for minor adjustments'
If I remember correctly, it born from Evil being locked up in a dungeon
Thst's Hilarious
yeah and no.
For game of this scale I would be able to create extremely functional test bot in less than 1 week.
Then again vedal would likely not want to put that much effort on testing.
if food was 5% of drain for amount of people, I think that'd be good... it's currently about 10%
yes but neuro snowballed out of control after round 2 while evil had consistently more players
she lost like 90% of her hp 
So i/ can mean bully Evil
I mean like, you can't make a change like tonight's defense update while the game is going
that’s one value compared to changes to the actual mechanics
(this game was made in around 5 days, fwiw)
defense was a meme before, why are we pretending that it made any difference
True
I never knew that, doesn't help that MTL has no clue on what a random / means
are you sure that food is working as intended? we have like 10x farmers for every gatherer in chat and both are stuck at 0
It makes a difference now. That's it's been fundamentally reworked. Which is a change you couldn't...do, just like that
Why even bother lmao
yall think it's just worth building while starving? at least then we're not wasting time doing something that's pointless
you did not see day 1 lol
yeah, especially then he would not want to that much effort in testing, if I had access to sourcecode and could write volume testing with unit test libraries I could proabably do it in 3 days, but even then 3 days of testing programming for 5 days of game dev is insane. ( even in extremely large corpos ratio of testers to devs is like 1:10 even 1:20)
aight theres no food, time to split and 
we are out of food x2
Considering the farming only gets us food in the last like, few minutes if that, probably yea
holy moly
like what if we say fuck farming and just build with the 50% debuff, surely that's just more efficent than whatever is happening now
Neuro and evil are going to be perpetually starved. The only thing that can feed them now is 5 gifted subs
Can we get 100 gifted please, chat?
It's hard to explain, cause it based on Chinese internet culture and born. If want to explain it, it may require a lot of information and time.
both are even in trophies now 
At least yesterday Neuro could catch up 
We've got time. I say as I pull out my rake and hoe
& put another thing of wheat in my mouth
why are you wasting wheat, we’re in a famine
dirt boy
I have to eat something 
I'm looking forward to someone doing an edit of Neuro moonwalking with Michael Jackson music playing in the background.
Hey, how do I join a team? 
I guess either we all are farming, or we all aren't farming
I personally think we should try the all not farming thing but I don't know how to commumicate that to the twitch chat frogs
famine
everyone is starving
we have no food
whats the debuff
The only way the twitch frogs are gonna know how to play the game is if vedal explains it literally at all. Unfortunately, the best we get is a
"oh yeah the game had some updates, have fun"
itll be fixed tomorrow, it usually gets updated once per day each morning when vedal wakes up
Where's the food
Well, today we starve
Thx ennukee 
more starving
For now we get to enjoy some delicious water and bread soup

turns out the ratio of afk to active is making the active players starve to oblivion
food! now!
You have bread?
wait a second... that one guy, are you keeping the stuff you're farming to yourself? why aren't you sharing it with our overlords?
tbh, this kind of bread slice looks like it would be kind of good deep fried ngl
The void in my cupboards is eating it all I need to keep it from expanding
That’s what I’m talking about! Keep it up soldier! 
Well in that case it's time to give up
what is this, it looks interesting
mmm ice soup

double abandoned
Is the starvation and lack of sleep getting me, or does have have like 40x the attack rn
yeah something like that
It would certainly seem to be the case I think idk what these number symbols mean anymore 
they can't even build anything to catch up because everyone is trying to farm
the ratio of neuro attack to evil attack is 8:24 if your wondering
Glad to hear I’m still function enough to FARM
I thought that was somekind of tteokbokki based thing lmao
New farm update is crazy
how many afk players will it take to finally stop starving do you think?
Yea no farming is impossible. We've changed strategies to just working on an empty stomach
This is truly a metaphor for modern day society
we are currently in the 14th century europe themed patch
this is starving us
Lovely
now imagine if it slowly banned people one your side while you're starving, that way we could all die out as well
Well that'd fix the issue of having too many active players 
every win bans one chatter from the other team
I really like Vedal created game for offliners.
I personally like creating chat based games that can be played once per day in less than 5 minutes, but there is a large amount of people wanting to hangout in chat during the subathon so I bet this is to their liking.
Does the game work on jp channel and b2 too?
B2 doesn't work (I'm guessing JP wont as well)
only one? should be at least 10
I have now adopted this lifestyle
sadge :(
welcome to the club
I think if jp was included their names would appear in the chat with the icons
B2 chat is readable in return
Does B2 have any opinions on the fact we're starving to death? Can they tell?
(though tbh, the only time B2 chat gets to fast is during karaoke)
On this topic, does the vr chat sessions get translated for them, cause I’d feel bad if they had to miss that peak
they got no translations
maybe we can try to get his attention tomorrow to get b2 atleast to work, jp channel works on same platform so it's not as much effort to get those people to play in en chat.
I wonder if we would have food if b2 could help

Thhhat might be something vedal wants to fix
Yooo guys massive event rn
the supply event is for nothing except glory and moral now
even if every B2 stream member joined (like 50% are a sleep or something, stream ends at like 9am local time there), it's not in the scale of twitch chat
and the glory we shal get
Does B2 have a good chat API or whatever like twitch?
I’m too hungry for that
Well there is no moral left 
oh yeah I did not think about that, if it does then he can get it done really quickly, if it doesn't he can just say it would take too much time, maybe next year.
We don't need morale, we just need to work till we drop, am I right guys

Oh ya, if anyone wanna know about how "i/" born, can search "Aimao TV " or ask AI about that. They are the same based meaning
Honestly do you even need food
I tune back in to see both sides are now starving at 0 Food
It's amazing how the game balances changes wildly day to day.
you can label distinct differences from day 1, day 2 and today.
from the things ive seen vedal do to get bilibili work i would highly doubt it has a good chat api lol
Now keep farming
Did anyone else get Miside vibes when Neuro walked up close to Vedal in VR?
NOOOOOOOO
day 1 exponential hell
day 2 calm before the storm
day 3 famine
what sort of event will occur on day 4
find otu next episode
I’m gonna end it all
epic embed fail I reporrted you to your government
(you need to chat more to unlock embed perms, a bot will go "you have unlocked new role" once you've yapped enough)
Ohhh
tomorrow food drain will be only based on active players (this will also stop the gigantic drain post-battles)
FBI?
day 1: how does stuff work, evil getting demolished by exponential neuro
day 2: evil getting some revenge
day 3: food = 0
day 4: ??
afk players also wont generate food anymore (they made a tiny amount rn)
Freaking Bolice Intern, yup
I feel like it makes more sense for the afkers to make more food than resources
Bc they can't choose where to put those resources
Day 4: One punch Neuro/Evil
ah, I love reading patch notes with my pals before the update gets released
team Neuro just !split
And to go to bed for the rest of the subathon
Insider knowledge
no subs
(though when I was there, the B2 swarm was just taking in the vibes)
afkers making food only would just invalidate the food mechanic unless i made the drain gigantic (which would feel TERRIBLE in the early active post-stream hours) which vedal and I don't want
the issue here is how to convey this to them, maybe DM afkers you notice in your own faction? idk?
Fair enough
I guess we'll have to see how it plays out tomorrow
It's like an English listening exam
Wasn't paying attention to the changes so far. Is food just broken or does farming have an effect? Also... has food an effect?
are they still live?
So afk gets punished good news for team Neuro with 90% afk players
Now, see, there's a small issue. How do you know who to DM if they don't say anything 
that’s fair, but it kinda feels like actives need to farm and just leave resource gen to afkers which removes the choice of what to build. but hopefully with fixed food drain it won’t be as big of an issue
twitch has api, use that to analyze data 
edit: removed discord form the api.
right now the sheer number of afks are making the food drain so large you cant possibly combat it without all actives doing food
but if the drain is on active only, it'll just be that x% of active players who need to farm instead of 100%
food is not broken, but we can't make enough of it unless everyone is farming at once, also it drains to 0 every round so we've all decided to just work while hungry because 50% efficacy is better than 0%
The main problem is the twitch-only frogs though. Because their only way of knowing game mechanics is the three lines in the corner and other chatters
twitch dm lmao idk, discord api, I meant API in general. I need some sleep :) good night
If you do the math farming doesn't even feel worth it.
if the drain isn’t too big tomorrow then it should be worth it
Maybe my math is bad but like, as long you need less than 50% of players to farm then it'd be worth it right
The only problem is we currently need 110% of players to farm so
with the way the drain should be working itll be worth it
if math is more complicated than cos and sin then I am lost
but if you truly want to help everyone, if you go afk not only will you make it so that you are producing more food than you are eating, you'll also be contributing to all the buildings at once (and the dev did say the reason everyone is starving is the fact that we don't have enough afk players)
the only reason you'd want to not do this is to participate in events which are really powerful, if you're not gonna go afk you definitly should be spamming when these come on
Mm, draining more food than we can make
I've been watching this chat the whole time since stream ended but I've barely been paying attention to the actual game. I have no idea what buildings we've made this whole time 
we've made like, 2 things in 5 minutes
it hardly matters
events are doing much more
these arent the exact numbers but theyll do well to explain why this is happening
- assume drain rate is 20% of a team's total "activity" value (1 if active, 0.7 if recently afk, 0.3 if afk for a bit)
- AFKs will generate 1 * 0.3 / 7 food, but drain 0.3 food per second
- when you have 400 AFK and 30 active this is results in a drain rate of 120 + 30, whilst the AFKs only generate 17 and actives can only generate 30, so you're draining 150/s while the highest possible is generating 47/s
time for the best event
Without food everything is stalling
is the plan to never reset attack and hp? snowballing still seems like an issue and the numbers have long passed the point where people know what they’re named 
even ignoring the massive base values (10^63 lol) it's a 9 to 30 ratio
vedal wanted them to go big so no, snowballing shouldnt ever occur like day 1 snowballing but as long as people are biased to one team for events it'll slightly lean in that favor
That’s a thing? Googol?
Depends on how long we make the subathon 
which seems recoverable if you just have more players
It's like a hundred zeroes I think
how much is a googol in scientific notation lol
Very big number
10^100 iirc
Why not make a flat cost for each faction member, afk players generate 80% of the active player's requirement too. That way the active players need to do the remaining 20% by farming. Then additionally to the lowered production at 0, give a slight buff from food stored to make farming it worth it.
itll be a few days but it should get there
(we are at about around 1e66)
Then next question, will we reach a googolplex?
Absolutely not
I don’t think anyway
googolplex is 10^(10^100) so no

the number cap before the game has to be reset is 1e309 ish
Certainly not with that attitude
Damn
The starvation is affecting me
1.797e308 (thanks antimatter dimensions)
Picture your lack of morale. Physically manifest it. And then eat it and get back to work
moral is at an all time low, somehow even lower than when evil was 500x behind
We can make it work if we believe
Well rn it's biased mostly because one team gave up
At the start it was more even
I feel better already
I love double floating point numbers
yeah that xd
Gotta love the placebo effect
is it just me or does neuro look hungry in this emote
Still hungry 
you have to spam around the cooldowns to try and beat the larger side at events and a lot of the time it doesn’t even work so why bother 
You didn’t eat enough of it, picture it again
That too
It's pretty much cooked
rn
the smaller side can beat the bigger one
But it's such a hassle at that point people don't even try anymore
🐢 : if you didn’t know, “rn” actually means “right now”
also if the larger side notices, they lock in to try and prevent it
I mostly don't do the events because I'm trying to spare my wrists slightly by not spamming
it wouldn’t make sense to implement since this is just a little minigame that exists for a couple weeks but if the events were like solving a wordle or something it’d be a bit more fair
It’s special cyberpunk slang, you wouldn’t know it

No point in balancing the game
From now on its just domination like day 1

I remember that person we raided a while back, i think vanipanini? had some stream game that was like wordle but all the chat worked together on it
for what its worth even when evil was dominating on day 2, neuro won 5 times that night still
there also is the fact that because of the spamming it looks like much more people than it is (only 3 people here)
I wonder how long I could stay here and yap for when this chat inevitably dies down for the night…
the whole time, it's open for the game.
My goal is now to have an entire section of this chat with just me talking
Time to test if my sleep scedule rivals the tutel’s
cbyer
Guys time to steal from the other teams food... oh wait.
lol
+1 singular bread crumb
the smugness
A neuro crumb, if you will
No food
But

Why is the farm command not working?
Today is another Evilday

It is, just too much drain
Farm rate is slightly fucked, it'll be better tomorrow
What drains it?
food drain is based on total players so all the people who left outweigh the food the active players can farm
afk consumption > active farmer
slightly....
Just a lil bit
And why was the timeframe reduced to 10 mins
More activity ig

Most likely to go cyberpsycho
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neurotic-neurons
does anyone know what the food actully does
-50% resources if you have none
So currently we have a permanent -50% resources
does farming help at all?
not currently
The farm rate is fucked rn so no, but tomorrow it will
An insignificant amount
sooo should I stop farming?
yes
Yea just work through the hunger
We're eating water and hope soup to get through the day
on the bright side at least tomrrow i wont have to worry about needing to reset food a third time


Might have to stop drinking water to grow the trees for wood
yeah that's fine we can last a few days right? then maybe we can use the bark as flavour for the broth...
If AI slop shows up that generates a bunch of food
its like we reached great depresssion levels of food
You have unlocked new role
that bark is for building, no more ice soup rations for you
You have unlocked new role
AI slop was changed, it doesn't do that anymore
Who is that for
What does it do now?
yes sir sorry sir
-attack for the other team I think
Hahhh……
stole your gif lol

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