tepid ice
I've build this deck for a friend for his birthday and when I was making it and goldfished it, I honestly started to actually want to make this deck for myself as well. However knowing me, I want to make sure that I can, at the very least, polish the edges down a bit since this was the first time I've ever actually made a green deck. What do you guys suggest?
i.e. cut Splendid Reclamation for Scapeshift, cut Mightform Harmonizer for Scythecat Cub/Bristly Bill, add tarkir/zendikar fetches, etc.
tepid ice
hmmm
odd holly
It’s seems solid. A great birthday gift. What is the problems your seeing?
tepid ice
Honestly, I just need to find a way to knock it up a bracket
Like I said, I want to make this deck for myself and how I want to do that is to turn this bracket 3 list into a bracket 4 list
I'm already getting a commanders plate and I traded a hexing squelcher i opened for a shadowspear from tmnt
odd holly
We could look into speeding up the deck. I think cutting down the mana curve might be something. Superstate and Ancient Greenwarden might be efficient but slow. Maybe they could be switched out for a card like [[Primal Bellow]]. [[Life from the loam]] could synergize with your graveyard support. [[Mark of Sakiko]] or another option for an early burst of mana
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Enchant creature
Enchanted creature has "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, add that much 
. Until end of turn, you don't lose this mana as steps and phases end."
odd holly
I’m trying to think of potential lines to create a T4-T5 kill/win. I imagine an early pump spell and some way to capitalize on that high power creature. Then you could play some of those higher mana spells
tranquil valve
i dont like pump spells as much because they are worth less power than a land entering double power
but under the condition with limited landfall triggers or just for that initial burst of power, pump spell is more efficient than a land drop
[[tifa's limit break]] is something i though of buying but never find the deck for it
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Tiered (Choose one additional cost.)
• Somersault — 
— Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn.
• Meteor Strikes — 
— Double target creature's power and toughness until end of turn.
• Final Heaven — 
— Triple target creature's power and toughness until end of turn.
tranquil valve
this is like one of the few example of what pump spell can beat the double power trigger
i like [[exponential growth]] as a janky win con in a power matter deck but i think at 8 mana, it is just overcosted
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tranquil valve
if anything, i've been winning with a golgari jank deck that runs it mostly because no one expect the weird stuff i put in, that convert 8-10 power into lethal out of nowhere
by itself, and with a telegraphed win con makes it worse
odd holly
i dont like pump spells as much because they are worth less power than a land en...
I thought Tifa might benefit greatly from a +2/+2 or a +4/+4 before a multi-landfall turn. Is this your experience or is there enough landfall support to not need any pump spells?
tranquil valve
i consider it to be resources management, pump spells are single use, which means there wont be anything left for the next person
so if it is purely landfall, i think there are all those 2 drop that all put +1 counters such as [[roaring earth]] and alike; but there are also not enough of those in the game to make it consistent so it kinda depends
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Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature or Vehicle you control.
Channel — 
, Discard this card: Put X +1/+1 counters on target land you control. It becomes a 0/0 green Spirit creature with haste. It's still a land.
tranquil valve
idk the exact limit in mono green for that matter
if its about going full voltron, one turn one shot, perhaps the all eggs in one basket pump spell will do
if there are going to be any follow up on a later turn, whenever it is playstyle, avoiding potential king making, not knock out one player and make him sit out the rest of the hour etc, i can see pump spell being significantly worse for that
i think hexoproof is the most important pump to avoid losing everything on attack
bright oyster
Would recommend adding in Guild less Commons and Arid Archway in the land slots. Ideally, always have it bounce itself unless you need mana so you can always have a land to trigger landfall every turn.
[[Witch's clinic]] would be the other land I would include to just increase your sustaining power in a game with the life gain
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, : Target commander gains lifelink until end of turn.
Students from other colleges are invited to visit Witherbloom's medical facilities. Not many do.
agile eagle
big fan of [[ordeal of nylea]] on tifa
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agile eagle
obviously better if you have other ways to put counters on her otherwise it's quite slow but mono green has options there
oh it's already there, i missed it
tranquil valve
thats a fun one when it works, i wish i can set it off turn 2 in my decks but i have never drew both pieces
tepid ice
[[tifa's limit break]] is something i though of buying but never find the deck f...
to be fair, the card was in there as a flavor thing. I was planning on cutting it anyway if I were to bring this deck up to higher brackets
I'm sorry for not responding sooner, I got caught up with school
oof I misread
i mean maybe?
tepid ice
so if it is purely landfall, i think there are all those 2 drop that all put +1 ...
I was actually think of putting roaring earth in at one point of building the deck.
[[Guildless Commons]] [[Arid Archway]]
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This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, return a land you control to its owner's hand.
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Land — Desert
This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, return a land you control to its owner's hand. If another Desert was returned this way, surveil 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put it into your graveyard.)
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tepid ice
big fan of [[ordeal of nylea]] on tifa
yeeeee boi
tepid ice
We could look into speeding up the deck. I think cutting down the mana curve mig...
Personally, superstate might be a keeper since it can wipe out all opponents instead of one
why have 1 player removal when have 3? lmao
Greenwarden though does seem like a win-more card so I might cut that
tepid ice
[[Guildless Commons]] [[Arid Archway]]
oh yea and also don't forget [[jungle basin]]
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This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, sacrifice it unless you return an untapped Forest you control to its owner's hand.
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bright oyster
Jungle basin unfortunately doesn't work the same cause it has to bounce an untapped forest, so you go mana down for the turn, and can't repeat bounce it to keep triggers going
tame storm
Life from the loam, crucible of worlds,. These would help immensely.
You wanna go up to B-4 right?
Whats your budget for game changers?\
@tepid ice
tame storm
Game Changers I would add are The one Ring, you have Crop rotation, add Seedborn Muse. If your able to swing it any mox and Mana Vault.