#[B3/B4] How to protect the King and his Cult? - Darien, King of Kjeldor

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daring monolith
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https://moxfield.com/decks/0u-cAmb5kEiBmd6G2yRkVg

Mono-White Lifegain and Tokens (unique, i know)

Hey all, just looking on some suggestions/cuts on how to better protect [[!Darien, King of Kjeldor]]. Since's he's a 6drop, it gets a bit feelsbadman when he starts costing 8+ mana when removed.

I know white has tons of protection (literal protection) but just need some help knowing what to cut for, say, [[!Giver of Runes]] and the like.

Also open to ideas for some balance in terms of lifegain vs token-generators/pay-offs! (How many Soul Sisters vs using my Commander as primary token generation etc.)

I'm proxy friendly but I also don't want to fill it up with fast mana (moxes, etc) as while I do play in B4/B3 locally, my local meta doesnt tend to run fast acceleration like you would cEDH etc. and the pods vary in "high" B3 to "mid" B4 if we were to use power-levels.

Thank you!

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Certified Cult Classic - Commander (Darien, King of Kjeldor)

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craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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[[worn powerstone]] one of the worse sol ring is still on curve for ramping to 6 with T4 land drop

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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[[gnome mancer]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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as long as your power level is high enough, this one doesnt disappoint

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otherwise it gets stuck in hand all game ... i know i said that but was too close to home 🫠

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if you have land ramp, and can get behind, play bounce land with [[archeomancer's map]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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[[surveror's scope]] is a powerful ramp

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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and since i think you need to hit a minimal of 4 land drops

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i think 38 is a better place than 35

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[[myraid landscape]] [[temple of the false god]] can both ramp for mana1

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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if you want unblockable for winnies [[escape tunnel]] [[access tunnel]] maybe better than rogue passage

craggy fiberBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/eoc/157/escape-tunnel

Escape Tunnel

Land
manat, Sacrifice this land: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
manat, Sacrifice this land: Target creature with power 2 or less can't be blocked this turn.
No self-respecting criminal has a basement with only one exit.

frigid drift
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[[tarnished citadel]] is a nice one, thats a card i havent seen in any other decks

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daring monolith
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yeah i liked the pain lands to trigger darien!

frigid drift
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its the ideal jank XD

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i would replace [[rebuff the wicked]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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you have restor magic but no [[blacksmith skill]]

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daring monolith
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i love my off-color counterspells but yeah i see your point haha

frigid drift
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"no we are better than that, we dont play counterspells"

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~some white ~~supremist ~~ hypocrite

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fizzle is probably the best way to counter a spell without saying counter a spell

daring monolith
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as long as i can keep reprieve, i can make the concession

frigid drift
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[[mana tithe]] is the real counterspell imo

craggy fiberBOT
daring monolith
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i was weighing in between those tbh

frigid drift
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personally memes aside

daring monolith
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and more jankily [[lapse of certainty]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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i would go for yes that ^

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the uncertainty of countering a spell with certainty

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it may come back next turn

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but i think there will be no next turn

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and the potential of the top deck getting milled is perfect

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or counter your own spell to keep it for next turn

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oh hey, its a modal spell now 😉

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i think you can still play [[welcoming vampire]] or [[rumour gatherer]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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i think [[dawn of hope]] is a cut]]

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daring monolith
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i do like rumor gatherer; i opted for enduring innocence over welcoming bc it can comeback (mostly)

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yeah i wasnt too high on dawn of hope

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since you have to pay

frigid drift
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if card draw is needed in life gain deck, i think [[well of lost dreams]] is the go to

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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dawn of hope lost the hope of getting played long ago

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power creeped out of commander

daring monolith
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how many soul sisters do these types of decks like to run? thats one of the big things i cant get right

frigid drift
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an enchantment you will like

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[[$luminarch ascension]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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i hope its not expensive 🤞

daring monolith
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only thing expensive is my printer ink

frigid drift
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i dont really believe in mass life gain, even if you cant gain back the dmg you took, its not like you are going to die to aetherfluxres out of nowhere

daring monolith
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yeah i didnt run aetherflux, felidar, or heliod/walking ballista

frigid drift
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as long as your life total is over the 2 digit healthy spot

daring monolith
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(even tho i do run moonshaker_

frigid drift
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gain no life and hurt yourself all you want

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dont need protection

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[[moonshaker]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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thats a nice win con

daring monolith
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i like that and [[mirror entity]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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its 90% cooler than catherhoof since i dont see white ramp freely everyday

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anyways you understand what luminarch ascen do right?

daring monolith
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i did run deep gnome and [[kor cartographer]] at one point

craggy fiberBOT
daring monolith
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yeah i see the vision

frigid drift
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korpher is like a worse sad golem

daring monolith
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4mv ramp!!!!! but yeah it is bad LOL

frigid drift
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i only had it in one old deck along side [[solemn simularum]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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because i needed 2 power creatures for [[alesha, smile at death]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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never used anywhere else since

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if it doesnt hurt you, for commander trigger, just run mana rock or land related stuff

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4 mana rate is where [[felidar retreat]] shines

craggy fiberBOT
daring monolith
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thats another one i was back and forth on

frigid drift
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love when i get a late [[myraid landscape]] with that

craggy fiberBOT
daring monolith
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or stuff like [[emeria angel]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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it think its a white deck with decent land count staple

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its not needed if you think its is too generic

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but i advise rising the land count since your commander need the first 4+ land drop

daring monolith
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was trying to go human soldiers (aka a cult following their king)

frigid drift
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going to go eat cake afk

daring monolith
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i can def up it to 38~

frigid drift
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king and his cult huh

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sounds like a political proganda moment where is that ghostly prison XD

daring monolith
craggy fiberBOT
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Multiple cards match “Baird”, can you be more specific?

daring monolith
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[[!baird steward]]

craggy fiberBOT
frigid drift
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consider you want to take damage, i think defensive abilities are too much of an deincentive

daring monolith
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Yeah swapped him out for fun stuff like [[karma]]

frigid drift
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i assume the bot died

daring monolith
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[[!karma]]

craggy fiberBOT
daring monolith
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And playing [[!urborg]]

craggy fiberBOT
daring monolith
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Well not that one

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[[!urborg tomb]]

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