I want to play around helix pinnacle cuss it's cute. But I can't seem to find a reliable way to get it in play early enough. I don't really care what my commander is as long as I can run Helix.
#Any way to get Helix pinnacle in play early
fringe hinge
solid arch
I think the best way is to tutor it in green black or maybe green white
errant fulcrum
Green white black then
fringe hinge
So it would just by having some general tutors?
Then how many should I bring to get it down atleast before turn 5-6?
fringe hinge
ty i will look into that. Actually already have an enchantress deck. Just wondered if there was a commander that synergiesed better than just drawing cards and hope for the best
solid arch
I think commanderwise it would be best to get something that can generate tons of mana or is part of an infinite to win with the card
lean parcel
or toolbox commander that can search creature to search enchant,emt
not saying it needs 4+ colours but there are toolbox deck that uses [[zur enchanter]] in the 99
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Creature — Human Wizard
, 
: Target player discards a card. Activate only during your turn.
"We are Kjeldorans no more." —Zur the Enchanter
1/1
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lean parcel
to get a single card out of the 99, basically a secret commander, will need multiple ways to look for it/ thin out the deck as much as possible to get to tutors even faster
if the goal is turn 5, then even
[[diabolic tutor]] overcosted and budget can still get it
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lean parcel
the question is more so, how many tutors you need/ what do the commander do/add to it
i used to have a [[yurlock scourge]]
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lean parcel
that is based on its "mana burn" ability with some enchantments and can easily make infinite mana if i want to, i decided against it
sullen hedge
I want to play around helix pinnacle cuss it's cute. But I can't seem to find a ...
this is an infinite mana payoff that can be easily tutorabel in selesnya , also you can pay at instant speed
how about a drawgo list?
in bant
lean parcel
and some other ways to play gorgari tutor can be self mill emtomb-alike effect into any green [[bale ged recovery]] to get permanents back in hand
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sullen hedge
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Sorcery
Return target card from your graveyard to your hand.
"Always have a backup plan." —Doral, Bala Ged guide
Bala Ged Sanctuary
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add 
.
"I know it's around here somewhere." —Doral, Bala Ged guide
lean parcel
estrid is a fun one, although it cares more about auras than just enchantment
the alternative commander in that precon iirc is the one that draws whenever an enchantment enters
sullen hedge
i was thinking estrid cause u can play your turn normally and then go drawgo list
lean parcel
card draw increase consistenct but is no way of guarantee getting the one exact card in the 99
i guess estrid is basically ramp with land auras
i didnt have much chance of playing planeswalker commanders, they always feels less safe to keep around at my LGS. dies in like 2 turns max
but it may also be my playstyle catching all the attention and aggro
lean parcel
I want to play around helix pinnacle cuss it's cute. But I can't seem to find a ...
let see if there is something thematic, food deck would be perfect
ramp but open ended commander include [[jaheira friend of the forest]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Elf Druid
Tokens you control have ": Add ."
Choose a Background (You can have a Background as a second commander.)
"The Harpers' movement grows, but it needs sunlight to blossom. We can be that light."
2/3
lean parcel
some other ones can almost go semi cheerio storm using artifact and dig through the deck within a few turns
and for example any colour that makes infinite can get out a [[staff of domination]] into a win
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Artifact
: Untap this artifact.
, : You gain 1 life.
, : Untap target creature.
, : Tap target creature.
, : Draw a card.
fringe hinge
my hope wasn't really to make a instant speed I win deck. More so a slow build up to a final showdown on the table. To that extend I have looked into captain sisay and try to tutor out another creature/socery tutor like vivien or something the like to get moonblesed cleric on turn 6
i am looking for around bracket 3 if possible with what I want idk if thats possible :3
lean parcel
[[final showdown]] ?? 😜
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Instant
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)
- — All creatures lose all abilities until end of turn.
- — Choose a creature you control. It gains indestructible until end of turn.
— Destroy all creatures.
fringe hinge
still kinda new
lean parcel
but sissay is two colours so there will be limitation there
[[$captain sissy]] i find it hard to recommand high price cards too
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Legendary Creature — Elf Druid
At the beginning of your end step, each player exiles the top card of their library. Until your next end step, each player may play the card they exiled this way.
Whenever a player plays a land from exile or casts a spell from exile, you put a +1/+1 counter on target creature and create a Food token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
2/4
lean parcel
hmmm there is one that can search any creatures with enough mana
fringe hinge
aalready got the captain in hand from previous secret lair drop
lean parcel
trying to find the best way to search enchantment , but i guess the white one is kinda it
oh nice
so lets assume green white are in
if you have 5 colours, i seen some powerful top deck from [[esika world tree]]
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lean parcel
[[world bridge]]
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lean parcel
dont remember the name
fringe hinge
hmm I did also consider her, but wouldn't that mean it would be rough to have more creatures?
and I dont know how to pilot a 5colour deck
lean parcel
it can basically skip over lot of non legendary cards and allows for secret commander, and if that gives you extra information on gettting out the 1 drop enchantment
5 colour may look confusing at first but its is just that the mana base has more colours, if you imagine that the lands are like 30+ [[commander tower]]
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Land
: Add one mana of any color in your commander's color identity.
"Thus, the shattered half of the planet was named Kavaron That Is, and the capital was moved to Kavaron Before." —The Tragedy of Emperor Kavarus III
fringe hinge
ddoesn't the world bridge just take any creature or planeswalker?
lean parcel
then the end result isnt all that different
yeah it cannot find enchantment, but the creature you get, maybe able to
fringe hinge
5 colour may look confusing at first but its is just that the mana base has more...
Haha thats a lot easier to look at
lean parcel
or [[bloodbraid maruder]]
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fringe hinge
yeah it cannot find enchantment, but the creature you get, maybe able to
ohhbh
i didn't think about that kind of interaction
lean parcel
basically esika has some extreme flexability and you can put sissy in the 99 too
or the Zur i mentioned
fringe hinge
but for that to be reliable doesn't that mean that I can't run creatures?
other than the few I need
lean parcel
yeah, very few creatures for that
fringe hinge
hmmm guess that could be a fun thing to build around
but how do I deal with board whipes then?
lean parcel
other than that, i find the italian chef i was looking for earlier wrong rocco [[rocco cabaretti caterer]]
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fringe hinge
ddoesn't any remove just mean im stuck
lean parcel
what about board wipe?
fringe hinge
other than that, i find the italian chef i was looking for earlier wrong rocco [...
Hmmm he seems viable aswell
fringe hinge
what about board wipe?
Wouldnt a board wipe or just any old removal mean that my secret commander was gone forever? Or should I work under the condition that I only need it once?
lean parcel
[[plea for guardian]] how fitting of the current situation [[sterling grove]] [[moon bless cleric]]
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Enchantment
Other enchantments you control have shroud. (They can't be the targets of spells or abilities.)
, Sacrifice this enchantment: Search your library for an enchantment card, reveal it, then shuffle and put that card on top.
lean parcel
[[plea for guardance]]
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lean parcel
Wouldnt a board wipe or just any old removal mean that my secret commander was g...
yeah thats part of the risk
but not every game has a farewell
not every game has that exact enchantment removal into [[bjuka bog]]
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Land
This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, exile target player's graveyard.
: Add .
fringe hinge
i fo really like the world bridge or what's its called (also cuss the demon bling)
lean parcel
thus [[bala ged recovery]] can get things back, MDFC will help a lot in those situations
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Sorcery
Return target card from your graveyard to your hand.
"Always have a backup plan." —Doral, Bala Ged guide
Bala Ged Sanctuary
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
"I know it's around here somewhere." —Doral, Bala Ged guide
fringe hinge
mdfc?
lean parcel
[[esika god of tree]]
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Legendary Creature — God
Vigilance
: Add one mana of any color.
Other legendary creatures you control have vigilance and ": Add one mana of any color."
"I know this world, from canopy to roots."
1/4
The Prismatic Bridge 
Legendary Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a creature or planeswalker card. Put that card onto the battlefield and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Starnheim awaits.
lean parcel
Modal Double face Card or something
fringe hinge
ahhh
lean parcel
a card with two side, can play either side instead of transforming to the back side
spiderman set introducted both transform AND playing either side which is imo quite a power creep from b4
[[$enlightened tutor]] how much is this
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fringe hinge
ohhh i didn't know it was with retrospective*
lean parcel
not a card i will touch or own for life 🤮
fringe hinge
nahhh cant really bring myself to spend over 10 euros unless its the commander
or for pretty art
lean parcel
i heard in europe its still cheaper, here i have CAD and its even lower
currency rate
fringe hinge
yeach but its still a hefty price for something you don't see most games
lean parcel
yeah it is. similar to the 30+ commander tower scenario
you basically want to find out
how many helix penni do you need in the 99
to find one each game
fringe hinge
dont really like single cards that determen how the game goes (dont use sol ring for the same reason)
fringe hinge
to find one each game
That is true so if I brought 5 tutors it would be alright
lean parcel
yeah i think 6 pinnacle sounds good
for budget, evolving wild, terramorphic expand, the one building from spiderman all has that same text to find a basic land tapped
fringe hinge
your help has been really appreciated, I think I will continue with esika as my commander in any case
lean parcel
👌 GL have fun
fringe hinge
thanks, have a great day and again thanks