zinc pawn
Hey guys I just upgraded this deck from a budget scarab god deck but it seems like it was not enough. This deck isn't able to do anything until turn 4 or 5 and by then my friends have decks that make an entire board. What are some easy ways to make this deck much stronger? I'd like this to be a strong bracket 3 deck but it's playing like a weak 2 to me. Any suggestions?
https://archidekt.com/decks/14480454/scarab_god_edh_main_deck
hybrid raptor
control decks tends to be slow
fast mana/ramp can increase how early the deck is online
or drag others behind so you can do your thing at the same pace
anything oyu want to cut?
zinc pawn
Link seems to be dead
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uhhhh nothing in particular im just pretty new to the game so i dont know how to improve the deck
lyric salmon
The first thing I think I see is that you don't really have any sweepers/board wipes in the deck at all, you have River's Rebuke which only hits 1 person and Liliana Death's Majesty which requires 2 additional turns to destroy all non-zombies
What's the budget that you're working with?
zinc pawn
Hmm probably 100 to 150
lyric salmon
Additional or total?
zinc pawn
additional
lyric salmon
so i took the deck and looked into it more, i believe these are the cards that i would prioritize cutting to get this closer to a bracket 3 deck
Brainstorm - its alright if you have The Scarab God out, but I think that and Lorien Revealed are your only synergies with it, and getting Brainstorm locked is brutal
Dreadhorde Invasion - im not sure how often you get the 6+ power ability to activate, and Amass Zombies 1 on your upkeep isn't very strong
Dread Summons - this is very expensive for what is basically a random chance to get zombie tokens, id rather have a more consistent way to get zombie tokens
Ghoulish Procession - currently, you're not killing very many nontoken creatures with this deck, it seems like this card is currently relying on your opponents creatures dying in combat etc which is not a very efficient card
Negate - this card is good, but i'll show you a card that is way better for only a few more pennies
Drown in Dreams - i think this is both a pretty weak draw spell and a weak mill spell, id rather have better draw spells instead
Lich Lord of Unx - this card kicks ass 100%, but it is very expensive to use mana wise and i think it might be too slow for bracket 3
Murderous Rider - it is a zombie removal spell, but the removal part is kinda... not exciting. there's a much cooler zombie removal spell
Propaganda - people arent attacking into your 2/2 zombie tokens anyways so this is a bit redundant
Liliana's Reaver - i think getting this card to connect with someone is a bit tougher than you would think
Eternal Skylord - giving zombie tokens flying is neat, but I think between this and Gleaming Overseer, the Overseer is better at protecting the board and is cheaper and protects itself if you reanimate it with Scarab God
From Under the Floorboards - this is a pretty inefficient token generator i think, 3 tokens for 5 mana doesnt seem very strong
Open the Graves - you're not trying super hard to kill your own nontoken creatures in this deck, the only sac outlet you have currently is Grimgrin i think
Noosegraf Mob - this is basically a 6 mana create 5 2/2 zombie tokens, which is fine but i think we can do better
River's Rebuke - single target board wipe, is really good if you're already winning but horrible if you're behind the table, its extremely win more
and here are the cards I present to take their place
Carrion Feeder - zombie sac outlet for 1 mana, this card is absolutely insane with zombie tokens and zombie death triggers etc
Gravecrawler - the original infinite zombie, keep killing your Gravecrawler for profit (this goes semi-infinite with Warren Soultrader + Plague Belcher/Vengeful Dead, semi because it costs you 1 life to make the rest of the table lose 1 life, so you can only kill the table if you have the most life)
Drown in the Loch - 2 mana removal spell or a counterspell, i think this card is better than Negate
The Meathook Massacre - board wipe that synergizes with killing your own creatures and gains you life, plus its thematic
Crowded Crypt - mana rock that creates zombie tokens in a pinch
Midnight Reaper - draw cards when your nontoken creatures die, plus its a zombie
Toxic Deluge - efficient board wipe
Warren Soultrader - great sac outlet, makes treasure tokens to ramp, does go infinite with Gravecrawler though, so if you dont want any infinite combos in your deck I would suggest cutting this card for Nantuko Husk or a mana rock
Withering Torment - removal spell for Enchantments which you're pretty weak to at the moment
Lost Monarch of Ifnir - Afflict 3 for all of your zombies to make them really difficult to block, and it recurs creatures back from your graveyard
Overcharged Amalgam - ZOMBIE COUNTERSPELL this card kicks so much ass
Gisa, the Hellraiser - activating The Scarab God is considered committing a crime, so you can commit a crime on each opponent's turn to make +2 zombie tokens that have +1/+1 and menace
Kindred Discovery - insane card draw engine for any typal deck
Noxious Ghoul - ZOMBIE BOARD WIPE this card also kicks so much ass
Consecrated Sphinx - if you were to spend any money on a game changer for Bracket 3, this one is it, if you reanimate this one you'll draw so many cards
i also recommend cutting 4 islands, 2 swamps for these lands to make your manabase slightly better
zinc pawn
Dude this is amazing thank you so much!!!
lyric salmon
maks sure you run it through the playtester a few times first
zinc pawn
Will do, im putting these into archidekt and testing it out a bit first
bleak plinth
Hey guys I just upgraded this deck from a budget scarab god deck but it seems li...
Welcome to zombies!
bleak plinth
Carrion Feeder - zombie sac outlet for 1 mana, this card is absolutely insane wi...
I don't know Kobe's name from other zombie discussions, but they seem to be giving you some pretty good advise
@lyric salmon
I appreciate them suggesting [[Overcharged Amalgam]]
robust wrenBOT
zinc pawn
Welcome to zombies!
thank you!
I actually just bought the upgrades and a few more like an hour ago
i got black market connections and liliana dreadhorde general as well
bleak plinth
thank you!
I've just finished walking through someone on a mono black deck. Do you want a quick buzz to walk through yours?
i might have a LITTLE bit of experience...........
@hybrid raptor can vouch...
zinc pawn
Sure
bleak plinth
Want to jump into Table 8?
zinc pawn
ya sounds good
bleak plinth
Though I'm going to have to disagree with Kobe on Murderous Rider. Killing a planeswalker or creature is huge for dimir
lyric salmon
how so? im curious
usually when people talk about dimir its that dimir doesnt usually have good ways to answer enchantments/artifacts so its important to have ways to answer those, whereas they can answer creatures/planeswalkers very easily
thats why i suggested Drown in the Loch and Withering Torment
bleak plinth
bleak plinth
how so? im curious
We're in room 8, just finishing off
Oh I haven't removed those suggestions
Scarab god is just removal hungry
we can have them all in
but murderous rider can be a repeatible removal effect
iffy on the repeatible, there are a few hoops to jump through
bleak plinth
usually when people talk about dimir its that dimir doesnt usually have good way...
Also, mandatory note to [[Gate to Phyrexia]] being kinda bad and expensive
robust wrenBOT
hybrid raptor
<@391063794387910656> can vouch...
hybrid raptor
https://scryfall.com/card/me4/82/gate-to-phyrexia
this is a card i never see XD
i am more drew to the name that the effect
wtf why is it only unkeep
its worded itself like a trigger ability with extra steps
i think in general, i prioratize removals for: creature > artifact > enchantment > planeswalker >battle? (regardless of colours)
As for dimir, because decks in those colour don't pack very much combat damage, it will cover a bigger weakness to have ways to get rid of planeswalker; which imo ratherly shows up in commander
white basically has all the cheat code to removal
and the most impactful cards are board will draw enough attention that screens "get rid of me"
idr the last time i had issue dealing with artifact the last time i played dimir, so in a general sense, i would agree with the statement about [[murderous rider]]
robust wrenBOT
Swift End 
Instant — Adventure
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. You lose 2 life. (Then exile this card. You may cast the creature later from exile.)
hybrid raptor
although for myself, i dont play tutor to be able to get it back. maybe repeatable self bounce. so the repeatable part doesnt really occur to me as much unless i am desperate
since it would cost at least 6 mana ontop of that
i think the best aspect is that it counts as a zombie, and is a model spell
instant spell in dimir control style matters to me more than what it actually removes
hybrid raptor
[[$Drown in the Loch]] did this go down in price/rotate out
robust wrenBOT
hybrid raptor
[[down in the loch]]