Oh already have that
#REVERSED! (EDH) Assistance!
sweet ember
sweet ember
Can I post a few promising ones and ask which ones you think are worth it?
deft belfry
and it is really just a panorama land
sweet ember
there is a cave that does the same thing
I dont think so, but I do have the Esper, Bant, and Grixis Panorama lands
deft belfry
Can I post a few promising ones and ask which ones you think are worth it?
ofcourse, absolutely
yeah a basic island is fine in place of coral
sweet ember
[[Stormchaser's Talent]] [[Jace, Vryn's Prodigy]] [[Metallurgic Summonings]]
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Enchantment โ Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
When this Class enters, create a 1/1 blue and red Otter creature token with prowess.
: Level 2
When this Class becomes level 2, return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
: Level 3
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, create a 1/1 blue and red Otter creature token with prowess.
Legendary Creature โ Human Wizard
: Draw a card, then discard a card. If there are five or more cards in your graveyard, exile Jace, then return him to the battlefield transformed under his owner's control.
"People's thoughts just come to me. Sometimes I don't know if it's them or me thinking."
0/2
Jace, Telepath Unbound
Legendary Planeswalker โ Jace
+1: Up to one target creature gets -2/-0 until your next turn.
โ3: You may cast target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard this turn. If that spell would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead.
โ9: You get an emblem with "Whenever you cast a spell, target opponent mills five cards."
Loyalty: 5
Enchantment
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, create an X/X colorless Construct artifact creature token, where X is that spell's mana value.
, Exile this enchantment: Return all instant and sorcery cards from your graveyard to your hand. Activate only if you control six or more artifacts.
deft belfry
i cant say [[$stormchaser's talent]] is worth that price tag
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deft belfry
utility wise i think it is okay with all the extra things you can do with it
maybe $5-6
since it is a "singleton" format, the game allows for high curve cards that doesnt come out too early
it is just 3 cards in 1 with lv 2 and lv 3 as the overcosted version
jace if flipped... you can definitely get back something from grave
that depends on what spell you want to cast a second time
because a 1 drop cantrip is kinda meh to get back
the -9 is very tempting if you can get there
and could become a hidden win con
sweet ember
Stormchaser's Talent is a cheap one to level up to 2, and also it's 1 mana cost serves as yet another candidate for a Hullbreaker Horror combo, though any of my HH combos already make infinite birds with Hermes so the otters may be redundant, but the third level is gorgeous if I can pay it w/o getting removed
Jace, Vryn's Prodigy is a 2 drop looter that transforms into a PW that can get me an Instant/Sorcery as soon as it drops and another in 2 turns, three if I decide to keep enough Loyalty for him to stay on field
Metallurgic Summonings will definitely take the place of [[Shark Typhoon]] in my deck. It has more limited triggers (Instant/Sorcery vs Noncreature Spells) that give less evasive Creatures that dont have flying, but its cheaper by 1 mana and lets me bring back my entire Graveyard, since I run enough Artifacts and spells that the six Artifact requirements should be fairly trivial
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Enchantment
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create an X/X blue Shark creature token with flying, where X is that spell's mana value.
Cycling 
(, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
When you cycle this card, create an X/X blue Shark creature token with flying.
deft belfry
if you want the otters as your pet card, i cant argue with that. but in commander i dont think its value is as high as it could be where was it standard that runs all the copies of it and form loops
yeah jace being repeatable makes it look nice
sweet ember
if you want the otters as your pet card, i cant argue with that. but in commande...
No no I see your point I was just giving my thoughts on each
deft belfry
i think with your card draw, you can get more from getting new cards to cast assume you got the mana
Jace is not bad since you can also block the things coming your way
sweet ember
I wanted to use the otters after so many times getting fucked by them, but then you posted the price tag and thats a hell no for me, $15 better be a wincon or something like High Fae Trickster/Valley Floodcaller that enables an entirely new dimension of play. Gonna cut it
deft belfry
metallurgic maybe on par with shark nardo typhoon
but sharks is flying, which i doubt you need
i favour having that second ability on metalic over shark more for that reason
yep, we basically said the same thing
sweet ember
metallurgic maybe on par with shark ~~nardo~~ typhoon
No no thats true, in most games even in my currently jaky deck thats hafway between the initial construction I made and the current decklist I usually make enough birds to handle enemy flyers and trigger card draw unless Im doing something like 1v1 against a Simic who gave all his Timmies Trample (True story), but yeah
So Jace and Metallurgic Summoning can comfortably slot in
deft belfry
yes
sweet ember
MS wont need a cut since its just taking over from Sharknado, but I'll need to choose what to cut for Jace, and a bunch of the new spot removal spells I added after your earlier rec
deft belfry
well i am going to make some food before work but i will be around after work for sure
sweet ember
I decided to add:
[[Reality Shift]]: Cheap Exile is preferred over Pongify because I ave Counterspells to make the difference
[[Ravenform]]: Exile is same, and sorcery speed is fin for me when I can make up with Counterspells, I added it cuz I like Foretell and its kinda funny to turn an enemy threat into a lil 1/1 birb like I have
[[The Phasing of Zhalfir]]: Just like Season of Weaving, its a multi-purpose Boardwipe for relatively cheap, since the read ahead ability lets me choose between nullifying threats for a turn for two turns, leading up to an indiscriminate board wipe that usually helps me more than my opponents, or immediately use the board wipe if I need it
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Sorcery
Exile target artifact or creature. Its controller creates a 1/1 blue Bird creature token with flying.
Foretell (During your turn, you may pay 
and exile this card from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)
sweet ember
Also put [[Aetherize]] in the sideboard, to be used specifically against big stompy creature decks, go wide decks, or both
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sweet ember
Also decided to replace one of my counterspells with [[Narset's Reversal]] because that card seems like yet another fun, cheap, and multipurpose card
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sweet ember
well i am going to make some food before work but i will be around after work fo...
Alright, Imma sleep now, if you still want to continue you can just leave comments and we can continue once we're both available. I'd appreciate any suggestions on what to cut to make space, if you were willing
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Also put [[Aetherize]] in the sideboard, to be used specifically against big sto...
good choice
Narset's Reversal, one of my most mentioned counterspell, because unless you are certain you need to keep something in grave after that counterspell, narset reversal basically does the job better almost every other time
sometimes, it also have alternative synergy with the commander or value pieces, in this case, the copy will trigger emeritus
deft belfry
Found this little guy and I wonder if he has a potential place in zombies
it is just a reprint, and there was also a zombie that does exactly that before it was a thing
4 mana 2/2 overcosted, body allows for repeatable recursion but with scarab god... you can just use scarab god instead
deft belfry
Alright, Imma sleep now, if you still want to continue you can just leave commen...
i will look at the deck again in a bit
[[test of talent]] is a potential counterspell i would want to try if i ever come across one ๐ its like a nerfed [[muddle the mixture]] that can see my opponent's hand and library
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Instant
Counter target instant or sorcery spell.
Transmute (, Discard this card: Search your library for a card with the same mana value as this card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle. Transmute only as a sorcery.)
deft belfry
iirc, since it counters a spell from the stack > which should put that spell into the grave, it should also be able to exile said spell from grave afterward? [[?test of talents]]
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deft belfry
Yep
i guess this relevant to those who tried to do spellslingers @wicked gust i think this simplify things down?
wicked gust
I mean I won the first game with it after we made those few changes, so lol
Was a very explosive turn
deft belfry
Xp how did you lose all the previous games?
wicked gust
....i think i only lost 1 and won the other 2 games with the eris deck XD
i think i played legit onl,.y 2 games wiht it, first oner was a loss, 2nd i won supert hardcore, than we made changes and i wont he first game with it XD
so
deft belfry
ah so it was okay
you just have tooooooooo many decks to cycle through all of them
[[$white lotus tile]]
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deft belfry
[[$wizard class]]
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wicked gust
you just have tooooooooo many decks to cycle through all of them
i only have like 20 or so i have,m i dismantiled many decks, and a lot i post here are future ones ot build lol
deft belfry
how many weeks* to play each one at least once ๐
gilded timber
Here's my Kona, rescue beastie deck. I did some changes in the last week and feel like i need some external advices if anyone can have a look :
https://moxfield.com/decks/-xaqUqcIsUOMBbmAWgDcLA
sweet ember
So I managed to cut the deck down to 100 cards with the new additions (By removing two of the new removal spells and my only counterspell that cares about card type), but got drawn into a new rabbithole of "Give all cards Flash" effects
Im already running [[Valley Floodcaller]] and [[High Fae Trickster]], but I was thinking of either adding in a third for extra redundancy or replacing High Fae Trickster (Valley Floodcaller is locked in because both effects are perfect for the deck)
sweet ember
The two candidates for the third slot or to replace HFT:
[[Tidal Barracuda]]: 4 CMC, same as HFT, but lacks Flash, and the ability to Flash all spells also applies to my opponents. Upsides are that 4 Toughness makes it much less squishy than HFT, and it stops players from taking advantage of Flash on my turn, which combined with the symmetrical nature of the first ability does give room for fun politics
[[Leyline of Anticipation]]: 4 CMC same as HFT, but lacks Flash. Upside is that it's an Enchantment so its much harder to remove, and if I get lucky with my draw/Mulligans I can cast it turn 0 for free
sweet ember
So any thoughts on if I should run three of these, and if so which ones? and if not, should I replace HFT with any of these two, or is Valley Floodcaller+High Fae Trickster enough?
deft belfry
Here's my Kona, rescue beastie deck. I did some changes in the last week and fee...
lol that "YES"! pile; simple and clear ๐
so plan seems to be T3 kona and tap it for second main cheat
whats the problem you ahve encountered
too straight forward? not enough consistency?
gilded timber
Either i cant get Kona early enough or i ended up with nothing to cheat early game.
gilded timber
I like the gameplan even if its straight forward
But its a difficult balance to have consistency to ramp/tap AND have something to get on the battlefield
deft belfry
i think kona on T4 is fine, as long as there is a way to tap right away
the simpliest way to fix consistency would be more card draw let me see what is here
thinking about [[smuggler's surprise]] for back up effect if kona isnt ready
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Instant
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)
- โ Mill four cards. You may put up to two creature and/or land cards from among the milled cards into your hand.
โ You may put up to two creature cards from your hand onto the battlefield.- โ Creatures you control with power 4 or greater gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
deft belfry
the "draw" is risky but is one of the modes to get 2 cards
gilded timber
I think i already put it in here
deft belfry
okay, will have to finish looking throught the rest
is [[shigeki, jukai visionary]] there
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Legendary Enchantment Creature โ Snake Druid
, , Return Shigeki to its owner's hand: Reveal the top four cards of your library. You may put a land card from among them onto the battlefield tapped. Put the rest into your graveyard.
Channel โ , Discard this card: Return X target nonlegendary cards from your graveyard to your hand.
1/3
gilded timber
I may not have put it in the draw section tho since i mostly use it for protection
gilded timber
is [[shigeki, jukai visionary]] there
No !
deft belfry
ok i will look at it again after lunch, mainly trying to get the early game smooth out
some of those draw spells like [[!return of the wildspeaker]] & rishkar experitise really need your game plan to be ready to deploy. so if that first part didnt work, having to spend 5+ mana for a small draw will be really hard on the deck
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deft belfry
[[beanstalk giant]] modal spell, [[elemental bond]] while those can be added, the overall "fix" is just having things that can be played even if kona is not ready
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Creature โ Giant
Beanstalk Giant's power and toughness are each equal to the number of lands you control.
*/*
Fertile Footsteps
Sorcery โ Adventure
Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle. (Then exile this card. You may cast the creature later from exile.)
deft belfry
i see two sides of the deck
one is where you want / can only hard cast
and the other side are things you basically never want to cast; which need kona to cheat into play
having cards that can suit both side allows for the flexiblity in case something goes wrong
so i would swap out the ramp that doesnt actually synergize with the commander
those can explode into an early game start but they dont provide any card advantage or mana ramp without playing more cards of your hand
i think it is actually worse than [[worn shaku]] in this case
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Artifact
: Add 
.
Tap an untapped legendary permanent you control: Untap this artifact.
Before being presented to its lord, each shaku is blessed by every hero of every region within that lord's domain.
deft belfry
[[arbor elf]] can untap the enchanted land
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Creature โ Elf Druid
: Untap target Forest.
1/1
deft belfry
big thing that add fuel into the engine [[regal force]]
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deft belfry
simple but effective
if you insist on the "enchantment" side of green, which i doubt is the case here, [[eidolon of blossoms]] & [[sanctum weaver]] are some of the powerhouse in a semi-enchantress deck which i believe is where burgeoning and exploration belongs in more
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Enchantment Creature โ Dryad
: Add X mana of any one color, where X is the number of enchantments you control.
The arrival of spring's first flowers is a sacred occasion to Karametra's acolytes, who fill the Setessan woods with song in celebration.
0/2
deft belfry
[[hunter insight]] is a budget draw payoff that i really like in green stompies
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deft belfry
to turn all draws into what you need [[abundance]] combos with svylan library as the ultimate draw replacement effect
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deft belfry
but even by itself you can skip all the lands to get to your big stuff
this is curve rn before all the changes
i can somewhat expect the 3 cmc curve to go up and the never cast 6+ cmc to curve to go up as well
taking away from 1-2,4-5 etc And having 5 mana ready to play Kona and tap is the best timing
not a big fan of [[stone hoof chieftain]] because it comes down after second main, so attack is kinda over already. by itself an 8/8 indestructible is solid. yet most of the time, no one is going to try to destroy something with 6+ toughness with burn/combat damage
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deft belfry
unnatural growth is a good example of the "both category" middle ground as it can be hard cast for the buff before combat, or just simple valye cheat if comes out after kona
mono green can completely ignore the 4 
colour pips
more draw [[war room]] not here, i run that in almost all my 2 colour decks
yet to have a colourless deck yet
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Land
: Add .
, , Pay life equal to the number of colors in your commanders' color identity: Draw a card.
A figure is moved on a map, and the tide of war changes.
deft belfry
and budget utility lands that i would run are [[ash barren]] [[myriad landscape]] [[blighted woodland]], because as some point in the game they just reduce my land count in the 99 so i have more gas left to draw into
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Land
: Add .
Basic landcycling (, Discard this card: Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.)
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Search your library for up to two basic land cards that share a land type, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Search your library for up to two basic land cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
deft belfry
i dont need $$ fetch shock to thin my deck as long as i am willing to pay some mana into it
essentially draw 1 or 2 card, ramp my land count by 1 turn ahead
https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3Aconvoke+id%3D<G&order=released&as=grid&unique=cards chord of calling is the poster child of these cards
i think i would probably cut rampant growth to get more utility for the 5 mana play, instead of 4 mana Kona that doesnt get tapped
the most ?expensive $mana ramp permanent that comes with card draw [[throne of eldraine]]
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Legendary Artifact
As Throne of Eldraine enters, choose a color.
: Add four mana of the chosen color. Spend this mana only to cast monocolored spells of that color.
, : Draw two cards. Spend only mana of the chosen color to activate this ability.
deft belfry
actually no, the most expensive [[$the great henge]]
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deft belfry
$$wise i think it is absolutely not worth
utility wise it is a one off in the game, not just format
getting your early land drops + tap utility then -> big permanents to cheat out is always the challenge without the proper card advantage or filter like Abundance
the most land cards are filtered out of the deck, the more consistent it gets to your big fun stuff, or the extreme opposite is run only big stuff so its always going to be big stuff. I think that route is too dumb even for a giant Hulk style deck
but it would be interest to see lot of janky creatures on a budget such as [[krosan tusker]]
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Creature โ Boar Beast
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
When you cycle this card, you may search your library for a basic land card, reveal that card, put it into your hand, then shuffle. (Do this before you draw.)
6/5
deft belfry
which is just a inefficient cultivate on a body
battlecruiser without trample will hardly get through any lethal damage
i thought of running that in a cycling theme reanimator deck in sultai or something
deft belfry
So any thoughts on if I should run three of these, and if so which ones? and if ...
whats the deck again?
i dont think i can do more than 3 from my experience but having redundancy sort of depends on how much card advantage is in the deck
its like drawing 2 or 3 lands but if you drew 15 cards, 2-3 of the same card is nothing
if you only draw 4-5 cards, more than half of those draws are the same card makes them a lot worse
tap and utility lands also changes that % slightly as it gives an option to play the tapped for a later turn or untap to keep up with the tempo
my verdict on redundant Flash effect would be... if my whole deck depends on it and i can win with a single one (combo deck ?) i would put basically every version in there, if i only want 1 on board, i would rather play tutor or something after the 2nd/3rd copy
so because of how tutor usually has restriciton, leylone of anticipation is hard to make the cut into the best 3 with synergy, Barracuda is usually going to cost 4, but playing at flash speed i am not too concern about my creature getting destroyed
floodcaller at 3 cmc is easily the best one, high fae still better than fish just for having flash. toughness doesnt matter because destroy doesnt look at toughness
good enough draw and ramp and room for the flash enable is what matters
[[teferi time raveler]]
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deft belfry
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even without typal synergy i think being able to flash itself in is worth the 5 mana. so if it doesnt have to be 4/lowest cost, i would pick that as the 3rd one
if you are doing non creature i guess this choice is also off
deft belfry
So any thoughts on if I should run three of these, and if so which ones? and if ...
i remember now, it was Hermes
and i finally recall the main reason why decks dont usually run soul guide lantern nor tormod's crpyt; simply because black has bojuka bog and non black has
[[scavenger grounds ]]and now [[Abstergo Entertainment]]
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Land โ Desert
: Add .
, , Sacrifice a Desert: Exile all graveyards.
When the last scrap of flesh is scoured away, the Curse of Wandering ends. Then the dead may sleep.
Legendary Land
: Add .
, : Add one mana of any color.
, , Exile Abstergo Entertainment: Return up to one target historic card from your graveyard to your hand, then exile all graveyards. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
"We make history yours!"
deft belfry
when that only takes up a utility land slot, there isnt a reason to play a non-land unless they give you a free card, a deck like [[jhoire, weatherlight captain]] which often become a combo storm deck using cheerios artifact anyways so the grave-hate is an afterthought
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deft belfry
atm you have 3 ways to play at flash speed
because of the combo potential and non creature matters, i think i am more interested in [[Tidal barracuda]] to stop my opponent's interaction on my turn for that ...[[voice of victory]] effect i literally forgot the OG verison of that whats the name of it besides dramoka
deft belfry
https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A"can't+cast+spells"+o%3A"your+turn"
find it [[conqueror's flail]]
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Artifact โ Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 for each color among permanents you control.
As long as this Equipment is attached to a creature, your opponents can't cast spells during your turn.
Equip
deft belfry
inb4 it may not even be the first printed card with that effect ๐ค
yep, grand abolisher would have been a better guess, it is indeed the first of its effect
M12 at least 13 years ago
around first time i heard of commander
and another reason why i hate white ๐คฃ "This is NOT a combo deck but I will combo you to win on my turn and you cant respond to whatever i do"
gilded timber
$$wise i think it is absolutely not worth
Thanks alot for your answers ! Just came home from work and will look at all the suggestion !
gilded timber
i think it is actually worse than [[worn shaku]] in this case
Haha just got these cards about a week ago, but i agree that they are only good in early games
@deft belfry so i understand that the global message is to get more card draw and ways to filter what i get at the right time ! I think i can cut some things and put more utility lands to get better versatility
Thanks again for taking the time ! Helps alot !
Would [[Adventure Awaits]] be something good also for filtering cards?
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deft belfry
Haha just got these cards about a week ago, but i agree that they are only good ...
they are definitely good cards, but they would fit better in another green deck ๐
synergy beats > good stuff
deft belfry
Would [[Adventure Awaits]] be something good also for filtering cards?
both yes and no, if the format isnt singleton, its potential is much higher
i run [[ancient stirring]] in one artifact deck (not a common thing in green)
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deft belfry
it cost half the amount of mana, can grap land and basically all the good pieces of artifact in my deck, even the boardwipe like [[all is dust]]
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deft belfry
so the idea is that it can grab almost whatever i want and it digs 5 deep
back to awaits, it also dig 5 deep, 2 cost is acceptable too, but it can only grab creatures limits its potential and worst case it is a draw 1 after not seeing something you want from the 5.
so it can get as far as the 6th card but thats also means you didnt get the piece you want
i think it is better than the common green draw like [[harmonize]] that lot of people would run in commander
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gilded timber
i think it is better than the common green draw like [[harmonize]] that lot of p...
Yeah, harmonize isnt that great. Sorcery speed, 4 mana for only 3 cards
gilded timber
Yeah ! I'll tinker a bit and goldfish a bit. Got a commander night tomorrow so i will test that in a real game also !
gilded timber
Thanks again
deft belfry
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lurking again
while this might be off from the colours, it somewhat shows what those filter/top deck card selection cards looks like [[reality heist]]
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Instant
Affinity for artifacts (This spell costs less to cast for each artifact you control.)
Look at the top seven cards of your library. You may reveal up to two artifact cards from among them and put them into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Kaito grabbed the chip, hoping it held answers.
deft belfry
1)expect some form of synergy with rest of deck, maybe even spellslinger
- reasonablly costed and works along side game plan (blue may care about instants more since they can hold up open mana to do other things vs green playing more creature spells)
3)look for certain specific pieces but can dig deep, i think 7 is about as far as it goes without looking through the deck same card type polymorph style
- then the number of cards it gives back (1 for 1 is cantrip thus using mana for no increase in card advantage)
haughty frost
Hello @deft belfry! Been a minute since I needed some help on a deck but here I am again requesting assistance. I need help cutting out 9 more cards for my Sibsig Zombies list helmed by The Ghoul. The main plan of the deck is to get the sibsig ceremony on board with the commander and some sort of aristocrats payoff to go insane with value, with the B plan being more incremental sacrifice plus payoffs. I've been trimming away at possible cards for days and I just can't figure out how to get to a clean 100. Thank you so much in advance!
List: https://archidekt.com/decks/19071865/ghoul_zoombies
deft belfry
[[sibsig ceremony ]] not a common card to see in commander XD
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Legendary Enchantment
Creature spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever a creature you control enters, if you cast it, destroy that creature, then create a 2/2 black Zombie Druid creature token.
"Once flesh, now gold and jade. Once dead, now alive again. Once respected, now honored beyond imagination."
deft belfry
@haughty frosti think you didnt set it to be public
haughty frost
shit i forgor
deft belfry
which is why it doesnt show a link preview
deft belfry
k
haughty frost
[[sibsig ceremony ]] not a common card to see in commander XD
why i wanted to build around it
deft belfry
i will restrain myself from too many adds in this case esp with a maybe pool that big
haughty frost
those arer all prior cut cards ๐
deft belfry
if sibsig ceremony triggers and sees nothing
do it still create the token?
[[?sibsig ceremony ]]
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haughty frost
yes!
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Enchantment
Creature spells you cast cost less to cast.
Creatures you control get -1/-1.
"They won't be winning any beauty pageants, but they'll do the trick." โEnslow, ghoulcaller of Nephalia
deft belfry
so the triple black pips from [[ayara first of locthwain]] is kinda odd
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Legendary Creature โ Elf Noble
Whenever Ayara or another black creature you control enters, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
, Sacrifice another black creature: Draw a card.
Mourning shifts seamlessly to celebration as she chooses her next suitor.
2/3
deft belfry
do you mainly put rad counters on yourself
haughty frost
yeah putting rad counters on opponents is a late game thing
i want the ramp for sure
deft belfry
for now maybe dont need some of the sac outlets, using it on non token is card advantage neutral
[[village rite]]
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deft belfry
i can see potential loops with aritfact creatures but we will stay off that until i figure out whats going on
tutor for main piece in the 99 > try to create big board of zombies
lot of death triggers
abuse cost reduction for etb ability
i think some creatures will get cut if they dont offer enough card advantage
especially the bad top decks
[[nine-lives familiar]] not sure how i feel about this one
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deft belfry
like i consider [[not dead after all]] timing on your own turn to be restrictive enough
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deft belfry
since it is also being used against your own effect
[[kaya ghost form]] face an even bigger problem at sorcery speed
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deft belfry
checking for zombie counter in the deck for [[diregraf colossus]]
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deft belfry
maybe not worth because it is like a big beater with no evasion
if it stays around to create more zombies, then its okay
potential tribal support [[cryptic gateway]]
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deft belfry
5 is very high cost tho but can get around ridiculous high cast cost
most important card i dont see here [[drivnod carnage dominus]]
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Legendary Creature โ Phyrexian Horror
If a creature dying causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
, Exile three creature cards from your graveyard: Put an indestructible counter on Drivnod. ( can be paid with either 
or 2 life.)
8/3
haughty frost
so you'd recommend cutting village rites, nine-lives familiar, ayara, kaya's ghostform, and diregraf?
deft belfry
atm yeah, if you find a place for them they maybe able to stay, currently i dont think they affect what the commander do that much or help with the "instant speed" sacrifice -> zombie tokens
deft belfry
i am curious where is your sad golem
2 mana land ramp cantrip
i thought i used the filter search incorrectly XD
deft belfry
[[!solemn simulacrum|who|837]]
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haughty frost
i cut the sad robot cuz i was in the mood of cutting ramp cuz my commander ramps me but that is an excellent point
may put it back in
deft belfry
[[the ghoul gunslinger]] but its also treasure
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deft belfry
i think that amount will always be less than what [[black market]] offers you
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Enchantment
Whenever a creature dies, put a charge counter on this enchantment.
At the beginning of your first main phase, add for each charge counter on this enchantment.
deft belfry
the mana shouldnt be the biggest concern because you will have all the death triggers, the problem i see is how much cards you will be losing
haughty frost
i see
deft belfry
like, [[altar of the wretched]] can come in with no nontoken on board
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Artifact
When this artifact enters, you may sacrifice a nontoken creature. If you do, draw X cards, then mill X cards, where X is that creature's power.
Craft with one or more creatures
: Return this card from your graveyard to your hand.
Wretched Bonemass
Creature โ Skeleton Horror
Wretched Bonemass's power and toughness are each equal to the total power of the exiled cards used to craft it.
This creature has flying as long as an exiled card used to craft it has flying. The same is true for first strike, double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, menace, protection, reach, trample, and vigilance.
*/*
deft belfry
ofc you wont cast it, so it get stuck in hand
deft belfry
:c but that could be big draw ... i guess thats a dream scenario
it also cares about power
deft belfry
with both "commander" out, failgree familar and [[circuit mender]] can be zero cost cantrip
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haughty frost
unfortunately the commander only makes treasures when a zombie or mutant dies
deft belfry
actually i will just send this link https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A"draw+a+card"+id<b+cmc<%3D3+type%3Acreature+game%3Apaper&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
ooh right i forgot about the zombie part
haughty frost
else i would not be playing so many zombie synergies lol
deft belfry
[[species specialist]] will have that synergy
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deft belfry
anthem effect [[patchwork banner]] [[heraldic banner]]
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Artifact
As this artifact enters, choose a creature type.
Creatures you control of the chosen type get +1/+1.
: Add one mana of any color.
With thistle, quill, twig, and beak, the finest artisans of each animalfolk society stitched unique quilts, patched together as a symbol of harmony.
Artifact
As this artifact enters, choose a color.
Creatures you control of the chosen color get +1/+0.
: Add one mana of the chosen color.
haughty frost
ic
deft belfry
i expect lot of the things to die anyways. unless you get out lost monarch of ifnir]] before the enchantment, its cant survive
and if it is about reanimate.. i think you only want the best creature
afflict 3 is powerful, but only if it stays on board
are you making the cuts mentioned above, because i still see 6 cards there
village rites, nine-lives familiar, ayara, kaya's ghostform, diregraf, altar wretched
haughty frost
making them once i've gotten your feedback lol
thank you so much for your advice! you're a massive help as usual
deft belfry
are you playing with proxy [[$yawmoth will]]
haughty frost
this deck would prob be full proxied
cuz of a bunch of expensive cards like the aforementioned yawgmoth's will
deft belfry
its normally a big value piece idk if its going to work here but i guess its worth trying
meh on bloodartist since its never going to be the reanimate target
unless you have [[wake the dead]]
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deft belfry
may as well cut zulaport too for being non zombie
haughty frost
its normally a big value piece idk if its going to work here but i guess its wor...
reason it's here is literally just cuz i was paranoid about the sibsig ceremony getting milled or removed early
deft belfry
XD
that explains all the tutors
i want to cut from that pile but not sure where to start
haughty frost
that explains all the tutors
they're to grab the sibsig and/or aristocrats pieces
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deft belfry
Yes i did
[[$cove of darkness]] one of my favourite tribal card i will never own ๐ข
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deft belfry
hmm maybe i can find a reasonable copy
haughty frost
perhaps
deft belfry
assass in has 3 version
haughty frost
or just proxy it
deft belfry
i will first look through my LGS with the biggest inventory
haughty frost
yk what fair enough
deft belfry
now i think the cuts and swaps is in the creature and sorcery
things that cares more about non token,
or single use etb
[[massacre girl]] for sure kills your own board ๐
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deft belfry
without a coat of arm idk how you survive your nonbos
haughty frost
massacre girl is in there for when i desparately need a boardwipe and i want to do it in style
may cut her anyways tbh
okay cut out a few more cards and added in the sad robot to get down to 100
haughty frost
ye fair
not dead after all is mostly there for commander protection tbh
may make the swap after some testing
deft belfry
tru
haughty frost
tysm for the help!
deft belfry
oh i dont mind the secret commander search
[[!torment of hallfire]] i find it turn games to be more salty
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deft belfry
torment of sea water XD
haughty frost
torment of sea water is crazy lmao
deft belfry
or if not salty, antidramatic
X spell problem
game is too easy to make mana i guess
haughty frost
true true
i like the consistend finisher/mana sink but then again i usually also have other wincons
deft belfry
can always get some post game opinion on those type of things
haughty frost
real
deft belfry
it really dependso n the length of the game
longer game = more mana = anyone can win suddenly
one card + big mana is the out of nowhere win con that defy expectations
but there is a first time for everything
deft belfry
depends on requirement
because some commanders/decks are so broken or oppressive while i am able to put the deck together to a point i am satisfy with before taking apart... the deck and the game play is not fun to play against for my opponent
so the expectation meets reality yet is not the most comforting
haughty frost
fair point
deft belfry
but if the idea is too far out in the field, it never gets to a point for a functional deck
i think i like a commander that feels flexible and can have many workable unique and personalized 99
hard to judge when it is revealed, not overly powerful and become archenemy on sight
and is fun/funny to see for the table regardless of who is winning, as everyone somewhat stands a chance in that game. which is perhaps more of a power level match up more than the commander itself
maybe [[niv mizzet reborn]] ?
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deft belfry
but i upgraded that one too much so it kinda gotten a bit too strong
5 colour good stuff problem
[[rakdos the defiler]] match my energy but it doesnt have the ideal game play as it somewhat leans into king making. And i openly admit that it is a bad creature/bad commander
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haughty frost
cool commander tho
deft belfry
nah its not B1
its disregard safety measures, and put on maximum turbo overdrive mode
"I can put on a seatbelt, but i take this feature off, i have lighten the weight to go faster"
haughty frost
Lmao
deft belfry
i turned [[kykar wind's fury]] jank into [[vadrok apex of thunder]]inconsistent combo loop into [[gandalf the grey]]random jank combo
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Legendary Creature โ Bird Wizard
Flying
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
Sacrifice a Spirit: Add 
.
"The raging gale fans the flames of righteous wrath."
3/3
Legendary Creature โ Elemental Dinosaur Cat
Mutate 
(If you cast this spell for its mutate cost, put it over or under target non-Human creature you own. They mutate into the creature on top plus all abilities from under it.)
Flying, first strike
Whenever this creature mutates, you may cast target noncreature card with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard without paying its mana cost.
3/3
deft belfry
while i prefer the 4 cmc slot more, gandalf gives me 4 different direction to do similar things
haughty frost
Gandalf sounds awesome
deft belfry
if i have 6 copies of [[maddening cacophony]]
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Sorcery
Kicker
Each opponent mills eight cards. If this spell was kicked, instead each opponent mills half their library, rounded up.
Jace traced Nahiri to the Singing City, but the magic of the ancient ruins threatened to overwhelm his mind.
deft belfry
i believe it was enough to half everyone to 0
haughty frost
silly wincon
deft belfry
90
/2 45
/2 22
/2 11
/2 5
/2 2
/2 1
/2 0
yep it was 6 copies
i have [[radiant performer]] to [[imprison the moon]] to turn the entire board into your first gf [[thats rough buddy]]
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Enchantment โ Aura
Enchant creature, land, or planeswalker
Enchanted permanent is a colorless land with ": Add " and loses all other card types and abilities.
Only one vault was great enough to hold Emrakul.
deft belfry
you just need mana rock or one new land drop
so fix that colour
i run my favourite rock [[gilded lotus]] which can be untapped
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Artifact
: Add three mana of any one color.
Over such beauty, wars are fought. With such power, wars are won.
deft belfry
[[heed the mists]] worst type - arcane
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deft belfry
even 5 mana draw 5 is pretty bad
with [[juxtasposition
i can give commander to someone else with that last mode left
[[juxtasposition]]
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deft belfry
[[juxtaposition]] comeon close enough
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deft belfry
same for [[sudden substitution]] which can be copied since split second doesnt affect trigger abilities
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haughty frost
this list has some jank my god
deft belfry
never played an elephant gift in my life XD nor the most generic double blue counterspell
beast within, narset reverse, muddle the mixture, arcane denial is the closest i have reached
[[pyroblast]] got one opponent salty with that one and he fully deserved it XD
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deft belfry
it was his game winning iconic rift pre-bracket days
"what you expect me not to counter that blue spells thats going to wipe my board?" and then following turn opponent beat us all with those cratherhoof I win button win con
what i learnt is that: most efficient removal is board wipe but too efficient aka board wipe tribal is same as stax, too much removal essentially becomes stax and stax brings salt
unfair and unfun cards are one thing but i prefer low salt and unknown janks so i have my reason to not run many removals to ruin someone's game plan
and not run all the problematic cards that demands remove on my board
the more removal wasted on me = less on my opponent
if my cards are bad enough, theres really no proper reason to target my over some obvious threat
if i am the threat, then its just karma to draw all the hate
so i need extra protection and defensive spells
haughty frost
makes sense
deft belfry
i think i dont even run more than 1 of [[swiftfoot boot]] [[lightning greaves]][[lavaspur boots]] in 95% of my decks. it feels too generic
and too much focus on protecting commander
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Artifact โ Equipment
Equipped creature has hexproof and haste. (It can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control. It can attack and no matter when it came under your control.)
Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
Artifact โ Equipment
Equipped creature has haste and shroud. (It can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Equip 
After lightning struck the cliffs, the ore became iron, the iron became steel, and the steel became greaves. The lightning never left.
Artifact โ Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+0 and has haste and ward . (Whenever it becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays .)
Equip
These boots were made for far more than walking.
deft belfry
really want to make my [[progenitus]] work
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Legendary Creature โ Hydra Avatar
Protection from everything
If Progenitus would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, reveal Progenitus and shuffle it into its owner's library instead.
The Soul of the World has returned.
10/10
deft belfry
but i didnt pick up [[command becon]] so idk if i can get it out consistently
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Land
: Add .
, Sacrifice this land: Put your commander into your hand from the command zone.
"I gazed once into that light. Now it burns in my mind, forever denying me rest." โRiku of Two Reflections
deft belfry
and without haste, cannot be targetted, its really not a good voltron option just out of lethal range
i reread [[yawgmoth's will]]
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deft belfry
it counters* your death trigger the turn you use it
so all your creature spell arent going to the grave
cant cast and expect commander rad + treasure
deft belfry
@haughty frost may remove it for that reason but overall its a really powerful piece
sweet ember
because of the combo potential and non creature matters, i think i am more inter...
Thank you for the advice. As of the moment, Iโve decided to stick with [[Borne Upon the Wind]] and Tidal Barracuda on top of [[Emergence Zone]] and Valley Floodcaller
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Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: You may cast spells this turn as though they had flash.
The Planar Bridge opened over the Chamber of the Guildpact, reducing the symbol of Ravnica's endurance to rubble.
sweet ember
When it comes down to it, BUW can slot in as a Cantrip and EZ is a Land, so since VFC is locked in itโs between HFT and TD
And while HFT has advantages, I agree that TDs protection is super good, and the symmetrical buff just seems like fun for the whole table
I also cut Ghost Vacuum, since itโs taking a slot when I can replace it with two Lands that donโt, while keeping Stone of Erech since the passive ability seems useful by itself
Now though Iโm wondering if I can cut anything to slot in cloners
Itโs between:
[[Storm of Saruman]]: A six drop is expensive but it sounds like fun to have a constant clone engine
[[Irenicus Vile Duplication]]: As a quick and dirty clone that works on Legendaries
[[Quantum Misalignment]]: Essentially the same as Irenicus, but with a drawback of 1 CMC in exchange for a free cast next turn
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Enchantment
Ward
Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, copy it, except the copy isn't legendary. You may choose new targets for the copy. (A copy of a permanent spell becomes a token.)
Isengard had once been filled with fruitful trees, but no green thing grew there in the latter days of Saruman.
deft belfry
those abbreviation confuses me
๐ตโ๐ซ
okay i matched each one
HFT is high fae
sweet ember
I can cut one card to run 1 of the three or cut 2 to run two of these clone cards, with Irenicus as my first choice to cut
What do you think?
sweet ember
HFT is high fae
HFT High Fae
VFC Valley Floodcaller
TB Tidal Barracuda
EZ Emergence Zone
BUW Borne Upon the Wind
deft belfry
irenicus >= quantum > sarumanstorm
deft belfry
HFT High Fae
VFC Valley Floodcaller
TB Tidal Barracuda
EZ Emergence Zone
Y.I.F.I.O.
sweet ember
Y.I.F.I.O.
Kek
sweet ember
irenicus >= quantum > sarumanstorm
Irenicus is better than Quantum? If both are sorcery wouldnโt the extra cast be worth one more mana?
deft belfry
i consider it better or equal
sweet ember
Oh ok
deft belfry
i think one cast is often enough
if i have cost reduction then they are pretty much the same
if i can cast with ignoring mana cost then the effect is the same and cost doesnt matter
sweet ember
Is the six mana for Saruman really that bad if itโs a sustained engine?
deft belfry
and i still have to wait a full turn to attack anyways
its not that bad but unecessary, i ran it with a control deck with 2nd spell theme before so i can reach that curve
sweet ember
and i still have to wait a full turn to attack anyways
I usually donโt care about the attacks of Creatures since any Creatures that make it into the deck are there for their effect instead of beat sticks
deft belfry
6 mana matters because it affect how much mana you have left over for the following spells
deft belfry
being a sorcery naturally means you may tap out on your turn
blue cares about open mana a lot
sweet ember
If I wanted to clone spells consistently I already have [[Rimefire Torque]]
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Artifact
As this artifact enters, choose a creature type.
Whenever a permanent you control of the chosen type enters, put a charge counter on this artifact.
, Remove three charge counters from this artifact: When you next cast an instant or sorcery spell this turn, copy it. You may choose new targets for the copy.
deft belfry
less resources usually end up with more open mana and give a sense of urgency to in coming threats. tap out means you dont have a respond
yes you have that
sweet ember
And any time I wanted to clone a Creature instead of a spell I can just use Irenicus or Quantum
deft belfry
so saruman is worth even less
sweet ember
Yeah
deft belfry
even tho it is the second spell each turn, for potential flash creatures legendary clones
but it is such a niche case
sweet ember
Well with Saruman gone I can run two clones with one cut, or run only a single one
Which one do you think would be better
deft belfry
the difference would be like [[twinning staff]] and [[primal vigor]]
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Artifact
If you would copy a spell one or more times, instead copy it that many times plus an additional time. You may choose new targets for the additional copy.
, : Copy target instant or sorcery spell you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.
deft belfry
copy spell vs create tokens
deft belfry
Well with Saruman gone I can run two clones with one cut, or run only a single o...
i am bias toward irenicus but since you dont plan on attacking
sweet ember
https://scryfall.com/card/c13/162/primal-vigor
Ainโt no way they just released a temu Doubling Season
deft belfry
perhaps you should try quantum
deft belfry
Ainโt no way they just released a temu Doubling Season
there is another and this one i showed is symmetrical to everyone
[[parallel lives]]
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deft belfry
doesnt say counter but is the good part of doubling seasoning
[[anoited possession]]
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deft belfry
[[anointed possession]]
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sweet ember
perhaps you should try quantum
So I shouldnโt cut anything to make space for two? I feel like Jace Wielder of Mysteries real value comes from winning on empty library, and after some time I realize that without an engine to work for infinite card draw he loses his main value since my only other way to win with him is to stack multiple Coastal Piracies and attack with a loot of birds over several turns, but at that point if I canโt win with the cards I draw then the deck has failed
deft belfry
process process process anointed anointed get this card name wrong every time i hate the card lol
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Legendary Creature โ Phyrexian Horror
If one or more tokens would be created under your control, twice that many of those tokens are created instead.
, Sacrifice two other artifacts and/or creatures: Put an indestructible counter on Mondrak. ( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
4/4
deft belfry
i think the order they were release is doubling season -> parallel lives -> anointed procession then much more recent mondrak
because smoothering tithe not busted enough
deft belfry
So I shouldnโt cut anything to make space for two? I feel like Jace Wielder of M...
yeah normal decks dont really uses mill out Jace, its a combo piece
should be able to win before decking out
ofc there are things like [[glacial clasm]] but at that point nothing will help you
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sweet ember
https://scryfall.com/card/ice/353/glacial-chasm
Well good thing beat down is only one of my win cons
It doesnโt stop attacks, just damage, so [[Twenty-Toad Toad]] works as normal, same with my other win cons
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sweet ember
Anyways, thanks for the help man
Thanks to you Iโve been able to shape up my deck
Knowing me Iโll hear about some beautiful effect and begin trying to cut cards to slot it in
But
Right now I think I can go and build this deck
Wait
[[Flusterstorm]]
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Instant
Counter target instant or sorcery spell unless its controller pays .
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
sweet ember
Is it worth it to replace a more universal Counterpell for Flusterstorm, exchanging a generally useful piece for a more situational card that guarantees a win in a counter war?
Nvm way too expensive, Iโll look to it as a Sideboard option if I play against other Blue players once I finish this deck
deft belfry
i think that one is closer to high power staple [[$flusterstorm]] i wouldnt go for it
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deft belfry
i dont think [[!mana drain]] the counterspell with no real downside need to be in most games of commander either
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deft belfry
[[$mana drain]]
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brave dragon
Mind taking a look at my friends 1st deck?
I gave him some suggestions I could
No need to write an essay just give some insight what's wrong and will not work
Decks goal is to make clues and most likely win by attacking with them
sweet ember
i think that one is closer to high power staple [[$flusterstorm]] i wouldnt go f...
Yeap I looked at the price and blanched. Too much when I can compensate with better play.
deft belfry
https://moxfield.com/decks/BLGGAN6Mg0Cxr4G7biwSnA
First of all, the deck name should be: "Come on, get a clue!" well looks like i know this deck and seen it in action a few times. its like the engine for blink/flicker enthusiast
card choice dont have issues
there are potential for things like [[armed with proof]][[merchant of tru]] find it in the deck just now but overall, would just like low cost cards/hitting land drop on curve
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Enchantment
When this enchantment enters, investigate twice. (To investigate, create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
Clues you control are Equipment in addition to their other types and have "Equipped creature gets +2/+0" and equip .
deft belfry
i may use [[warfarer bauble]]
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deft belfry
[[wayfar bauble]]
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Artifact
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Search your library for a basic land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Druids hold certain plants to be sacred and use their leaves and wood as a spellcasting focus.
deft belfry
there is one more copy of [[thraben inspector]] that idk the name of
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Creature โ Human Soldier
When this creature enters, investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
"If you've been at this as long as I have, nothing can surprise you. That's the hope, at least."
1/2
deft belfry
okay i see that one in the main deck it is there [[!novice inspector]]
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deft belfry
i dont see the importance of [[crygen relic]]
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Artifact
When this artifact enters or leaves the battlefield, draw a card.
, Sacrifice this artifact: Put a stun counter on up to one target tapped creature. (If a permanent with a stun counter would become untapped, remove one from it instead.)
Older than the Eumidian seedships that populated Evendo.
deft belfry
i am more inclined to look for synergy to create more clues, even at the cost of missing out on some of the best removals
i think [[tangletrove kelp]] cost too much and it doesnt make clues
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Artifact Creature โ Clue Plant
Ward
At the beginning of each combat, other Clues you control become 6/6 Plant creatures in addition to their other types until end of turn.
, Sacrifice this creature: Draw a card.
Even experienced detectives can be strung along by planted evidence.
6/6
deft belfry
[[tribute mage[[ currently lack options. it can find mana rock or etherium sculptor and crystal barricade. its not bad just not flexible
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deft belfry
potentially [[saphire medallion]] upgrade
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Artifact
Blue spells you cast cost less to cast.
It is the glimpse of a new horizon beyond the hills, the briny taste of salt spray off a ship's hull, and the whisper of pages turning in a new book. It is discovery.
deft belfry
[[Wojek Investigator]] more impactful and aligned
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Creature โ Angel Detective
Flying, vigilance
At the beginning of your upkeep, investigate once for each opponent who has more cards in hand than you. (To investigate, create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
"Well, this clearly didn't come from anyone I know..."
2/4
deft belfry
[[junk winder]] can be a high cost win con
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Creature โ Serpent
Affinity for tokens (This spell costs less to cast for each token you control.)
Whenever a token you control enters, tap target nonland permanent an opponent controls. It doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
5/6
deft belfry
idk if this is the perfect card [[James, Wandering Dad]]
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Legendary Creature โ Human Scientist
: Add . Spend this mana only to activate abilities.
"So long as we've got each other, that's all that matters."
2/4
Follow Him
Instant โ Adventure
Investigate X times. (Then exile this card. You may cast the creature later from exile.)
deft belfry
important to note that the interaction with manufactorer is investigate are all seperate instances of creating token
budget upgrade can be [[rosie cotton of south lane]]
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Legendary Creature โ Halfling Peasant
When Rosie Cotton enters, create a Food token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
Whenever you create a token, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control other than Rosie Cotton.
1/1
deft belfry
[[stridehangar automaton]] would be the slightly higher $ upgrade
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deft belfry
[[Bennie Bracks, Zoologist]][[$Bennie Bracks, Zoologist]] also a decent draw engine since reprint
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Legendary Creature โ Elf Druid
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
At the beginning of each end step, if you created a token this turn, draw a card.
His enthusiastic curiosity puts even the most fearsome of beasts at ease.
3/2
deft belfry
i couldnt get one when it was at its lowest
waiting for the next future reprint
[[master transmuter]]
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Artifact Creature โ Human Artificer
, , Return an artifact you control to its owner's hand: You may put an artifact card from your hand onto the battlefield.
"Wasted potential surrounds us. Lend me that bauble, and let me see what it can be made to be."
1/2
brave dragon
I believe most of what you suggested were in the deck at some point but it's a long process for him to be satisfied with the deck XD
deft belfry
i think its pretty good as it is, i would perfer higher chance of land drop tho
dont really want to miss any of the first 4 lands and the ramp is not guarantee
brave dragon
Thank you ๐
tall willow
got some new cards since last time, but I haven't added two all-star cards yet, those being [[boggart trawler]] and [[witch enchanter]]. should I cut lands for them, or spells?
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Creature โ Goblin
When this creature enters, exile target player's graveyard.
"Look what I found, and it's only been dead for a week!"
3/1
Boggart Bog
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add .
A boggart warren is usually located in a place rich with sensations... good and bad.
Creature โ Human Warlock
When this creature enters, destroy target artifact or enchantment an opponent controls.
Shilgengar's famine once starved Stensia into embracing vampirism. The Dawnhart Coven would not let the same happen to Kessig.
2/2
Witch-Blessed Meadow
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add .
"Ghrin-Danu will not let her people go hungry." โKatilda, Dawnhart Prime
deft belfry
cant say every time but most of the time MDFC (land) cuts out a land
empty bison
Hey @deft belfry working on my mono red deck. I need to fill a few more slots but also maybe anything im missing. The curve is stupid high so not sure if I need to adjust for smaller spells. https://archidekt.com/decks/19697270/red_warp
empty bison
Lol! Pretty standard from what I've seen. This is just the 1st rough draft.
deft belfry
yea... even blightsteel is in there ๐คฎ
empty bison
Just too mean, huh?
I have most of all those cards in my collection already. Seemed like an auto include, but a mean one at that.
deft belfry
its probably fine
B3 sudden death, more of a social thing
ramp out Tannuk -> cheat out biggest thing -> Fun
empty bison
My favorite way to play is cheat out big things.
deft belfry
may need ways to reduce land count or something to be sure there is a valuable enough thing in hand
but the core of the deck is definitely there
maybe fine tuning and tutors for consistency
the middle ground is always the awkward part
"do i warp a 5-6 drop or do i hard cast it"
empty bison
100%. Seems feast or famine currently
empty bison
"do i warp a 5-6 drop or do i hard cast it"
For sure
deft belfry
[[spawn of thraxes]] is one of those, probably only playable in this type of deck but
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deft belfry
its quality is much lower than the average card in the deck with all the big stuff
esp when the best is more like [[!ancient copper dragon]]
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deft belfry
fits that slot more if you want damage
which also double combat trigger
but card wise, i am more bias toward blast furnace and ofc the crappy avatar of slaughter because of its symmetrical chaos
if does "goad" your own board so the downside is a relevant self sabotage ability
blast furnace can cheat itself out with thing you are about lose so i find that interesting
[[desperate ritual]] add unused storm count
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Instant โ Arcane
Add .
Splice onto Arcane (As you cast an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell.)
deft belfry
i guess its functionally the same as [[simian spirit guide]]
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Creature โ Ape Spirit
Exile this card from your hand: Add .
"It's rarely worth questioning where the mana comes from. Just be grateful." โJaya Ballard, task mage
2/2
deft belfry
i think it is somewhat interchangable if its just for the result. if there is something that cares about instant sorcery, or someone decides to [[helm of awakening]] for some reason, then obviously ritual is better. i like simian since its an ability and harder to interact with.
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Artifact
Spells cost less to cast.
"This little prize will cover your head, your spells, your bets, and your behind!" โPashad ibn Asim, Suq'Ata trader
empty bison
but card wise, i am more bias toward blast furnace and ofc the crappy avatar of ...
I have that card as well. Maybe I will go more chaos route
empty bison
blast furnace can cheat itself out with thing you are about lose so i find that ...
Great thought.
empty bison
i think it is somewhat interchangable if its just for the result. if there is so...
Yeah, that's true
deft belfry
maybe in the unlikely case where you want to hard cast a creature, it is there. but its overall the same card
so tannuk is very straight forward, Timmy Style deck
get it out early as possible, untap for big stuff
sort of kill on sight? then your plan folds
if you are paranoid about it dying without doing anything... it would take 7 mana to do a single sneak attack turn which is overcosted
and suffers with reds biggest weakness of losing card advantage
and even when the plan works, there is always a high risk involve with no blockers
always glass cannon RPG build
so i would focus hardest on getting more cards no matter what
since it would negate some of the downside if i am low on cards, commander getting recasted, land drop each turn
over going even faster with acceleration and pure ramp
deft belfry
weird enough, its looks more interesting to me now since it allows for all those big mana rocks to get the curve right [[gilded lotus]] [[!coveted jewal]], where warp kinda bypass the downside a little as well
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Artifact
: Add three mana of any one color.
Over such beauty, wars are fought. With such power, wars are won.
deft belfry
the 3 open mana also storm off making itself mana neutral
in this deck specifically, i can see [[jeskai's will]] having a much higher chance of whiffing but it is always a powerful card
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Sorcery
Choose one. If you control a commander as you cast this spell, you may choose both instead.
โข Add for each card in target opponent's hand.
โข Exile the top three cards of your library. You may play them this turn.
"Gather your strength. Prepare yourself." โJeska, to Radha
deft belfry
really liking the artifact in here
empty bison
in this deck specifically, i can see [[jeskai's will]] having a much higher chan...
Same here
Possible turn 3 kill with blightsteel is NOT ok in a bracket 3 spelltable game. I may have to sandbag that if it comes up. In my home pod, they will get it full force. Hahaha.
deft belfry
XD sounds about right, i think i only ever saw 2 blightsteel pre bracket and one of them i got that pseudo [[tragic slip]] removal on it
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deft belfry
it may have been tragic slip but idr putting that card in a deck. it was enough to get rid of the blightsteel is what matters
if the card advantage issue is solved, haste blightsteel + a fling effect (i think the sorcery version is a 1 drop and the MDFC is a 3 drop) can KO another player
i wonder if sad golem belong in the list at all
feels like a wayfar bauble with extra steps
empty bison
Same. Sad golem is meh in this case
Wait, if you fling an infect creature, it deals infect that time as well?!
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empty bison
Totally feel, and regret I didn't do more math mid-game. Hahaha
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empty bison
Ohhh I may want to add that.. I was wondering if I should add fling
deft belfry
Totally feel, and regret I didn't do more math mid-game. Hahaha
famous last words "Math is for blockers"
empty bison
famous last words "Math is for blockers"
Lmao, for sure
deft belfry
internal monolog: "they may have an aetherize ready for my alpha strike but if they don't, I win
empty bison
For sure
deft belfry
[[soul's fire]] similar
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empty bison
Ahhh yeah
Ive been dying to add a fling style effect to a deck. Maybe now is the time.
deft belfry
find it with google AI ๐
empty bison
Lamo
empty bison
Hahaha
deft belfry
as a chaotic neutral, we should put our lives under the care of AIs ๐
empty bison
Man, I probably should. I would yell at my kids less...
I forget they are kids too often. And try and treat them like an adult.
deft belfry
Same. Sad golem is meh in this case
i think lot of the 4 drops creatures has similar problem for that curve unless there are alternative cost or really good upside, i copied the deck to see what i would take out
empty bison
i think lot of the 4 drops creatures has similar problem for that curve unless t...
Nice! Ty
deft belfry
replace yourself with a voice recorder to yell at the kids automatically
empty bison
Hahahhhahahagagaga
deft belfry
Nice! Ty
i blame you for not manual tagging for making a mono colour deck catching my attention
empty bison
Hahaha perfect
I made a [[urbrask]] deck that was stupid and need a new mono red deck.
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deft belfry
which one
empty bison
[[Urabrask]]
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Legendary Creature โ Phyrexian Praetor
First strike
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, Urabrask deals 1 damage to target opponent. Add .
: Exile Urabrask, then return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control. Activate only as a sorcery and only if you've cast three or more instant and/or sorcery spells this turn.
4/4
The Great Work
Enchantment โ Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I โ This Saga deals 3 damage to target opponent and each creature they control.
II โ Create three Treasure tokens.
III โ Until end of turn, you may cast instant and sorcery spells from any graveyard. If a spell cast this way would be put into a graveyard, exile it instead. Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield (front face up).
deft belfry
the impulse draw?
empty bison
Yeag
deft belfry
ahh lowkey my favourite one
thats not the impulse one
thats the spellslinger and past in flame
its so hard to flip so i want to use it as a commander just to flip it once
but i like OG ubrask. although its just haste and blind obedience so its kinda boring
empty bison
The OG one is a bit boring.
I still have the deck put together. I have so many decks with 90+ cards that I need to just take apart.
Some day come the the states and dig through all my cards. Hahaha
deft belfry
we now have [[rising of the day]] so i only run it when i really need that haste and more creatures
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deft belfry
take apart?
empty bison
Yeah, just don't play enough. I have an Urabrask, a Wilhelt, a Edgar, and a few more I just have taken cards out of and they are just sitting there. Also a Kaalia that was wild as well.
I struggle with building decks off of impulse and not play them enough.
empty bison
we now have [[rising of the day]] so i only run it when i really need that haste...
Yeah, a better [[fervor]]
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Enchantment
Creatures you control have haste. (They can attack and as soon as they come under your control.)
"We won't sit like lazy gob-slugs waiting for death to come to us. We'll bring death, shiny sharp, to our enemies." โKrenko, mob boss
deft belfry
i think [[$frevor]] was also more expensive too for the longest time
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deft belfry
[[$fervor]]
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empty bison
i think [[$frevor]] was also more expensive too for the longest time
Yeah, times have changed.
deft belfry
I struggle with building decks off of impulse and not play them enough.
what about an impulse deck that doesnt start with a commander but from the 99
empty bison
I stared around M13 and then have been hit or miss since. Started back full steam about 6 months ago
deft belfry
gwen from spiderman is too straight forward imo but its is probably the closer to those effects
empty bison
what about an impulse deck that doesnt start with a commander but from the 99
Ohhhh that's a good idea
deft belfry
M13 was the first commander cards i brought
empty bison
gwen from spiderman is too straight forward imo but its is probably the closer t...
I added that card to my Eddie Brock deck
empty bison
M13 was the first commander cards i brought
I was all about the Vampires back then.
And ofc Avacyn.
Different times. Slower games and not as polished.
Now all the randos I play with on spelltable have ultra polished decks.
My next commander is 100% [[grimgrin]]
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empty bison
My friend gave me a Grimgrin deck as my first deck and I want to rebuild it.
deft belfry
Now all the randos I play with on spelltable have ultra polished decks.
i think thats the weird part of B3, people wants to win but need that limit cap on how good a deck gets and still somewhat doing interesting things
enough time and number of turns to do something less efficient to get to the finishing line
luke warm take: stax is good for the game , especially when the game is getting too fast out of control
deft belfry
https://scryfall.com/card/inr/239/grimgrin-corpse-born
nice thats an old school one iirc
deft belfry
My friend gave me a Grimgrin deck as my first deck and I want to rebuild it.
i have so many decks to rebuild too XD, do you have a direction in mind already
empty bison
Not quite. I have sooo many zombie cards. I would take apart my Wilhelt deck and add most of it to it.
empty bison
luke warm take: stax is good for the game , especially when the game is getting ...
I agree
empty bison
Not quite. I have sooo many zombie cards. I would take apart my Wilhelt deck and...
Once I finish Tannuk, I'll start messing with Grimgrin.
Also, working on Maralen. ๐
deft belfry
because sac engine in commander zone + counters on a single thing, could lead to some fast infinite
empty bison
Told you, I just dive in deep and only sometimes finish them.
deft belfry
i think there are many maralen builds since it was a face commander
empty bison
[[Maralen, fae ascendant]]
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empty bison
That one?
empty bison
Yeah, it was a face commander?
deft belfry
unless i got out of my way to build a [[morophon boundless]] tribal tribal deck i doubt i will get close to that one
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Legendary Creature โ Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
As Morophon enters, choose a creature type.
Spells of the chosen type you cast cost less to cast. This effect reduces only the amount of colored mana you pay.
Other creatures you control of the chosen type get +1/+1.
6/6
empty bison
I think it's the blight one and the absolutely wild Ashling.
deft belfry
right theres only 2 precon this set
empty bison
Everytime I've played Ashling, I've been dominated
deft belfry
i must have mixed up the past faerie precons
dominated? not dominating? wait that meant the same thing lol
deft belfry
yeap its one of those explosive decks
i think seeing the face commander and what i remember about elemental was enough to turn me away from getting it
as much as i would love to play with double cascade 8 drop
having it telling you to play it on the commander is a bit much on the nose
empty bison
For sure.
deft belfry
and thats not even the most broken elemental
empty bison
I played a game here on this discord and 2 of the 4 people were playing upgraded Ashlings...
It was not the greatest.
Hahaha
deft belfry
[twinflame traveler]] is a thing i want to get for my 99 of a not so elemental focused deck
[[twinflame traveler]] budget roaming throne
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deft belfry
just waiting for a single copy to show up in my LGS
empty bison
Ohhh wow. Fun card.
empty bison
It really does
deft belfry
not so broken as [[roaming throne]] "yep all and any type"
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Artifact Creature โ Golem
Ward
As this creature enters, choose a creature type.
This creature is the chosen type in addition to its other types.
If a triggered ability of another creature you control of the chosen type triggers, it triggers an additional time.
4/4
deft belfry
if only "colourless" is a colour identity
empty bison
Lol for sure. I need (4) of that card. Just not yet. Hahaha
deft belfry
Cost 
. Must include colourless pip in the commander identity to play this card
broken format will remain broken ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
its a personal choice not to spend $50 for a card nor to play a broken effect
i do wish i can own and causally run an [[ancient tomb]] in my self inflicting pain deck
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Land
: Add . This land deals 2 damage to you.
There is no glory to be gained in the kingdom of the dead. โVec tomb inscription
empty bison
True that.
deft belfry
maybe i will pick up the pokemon copy instead
empty bison
i do wish i can own and causally run an [[ancient tomb]] in my self inflicting p...
Maybe some day!!!
empty bison
maybe i will pick up the pokemon copy instead
Ohhh do it
deft belfry
acutally i think i have this card
2004 pokemon
sounds about right i guess i have to look through my pokemon cards now
empty bison
Do it. That is the best proxy possible
Alright, off to dinner. Have a great night and I'll let you know once my Grimgrin is ready lol.
Appreciate you as always my friend. ๐
deft belfry
so far i only tagged half of the tunnuk stuff
still making comparison and swaps. the pricey powerhouse are the most flexible slot as expected
have fun at dinner
@silk cairn why didnt you merge Tunnuk and rocket Raccon ! the double commander with artifacts sneak attack ๐
maybe [[bloodthirster]] as win con
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https://moxfield.com/decks/qQ4hWUQE7U-CEyetEwA4Lg i cant find your tunnuk deck ๐
the 0/0 haste attacking part is nice overlap
looks like that deck no longer exist?
maybe the middle ground can be [[zealous conscripts]] which may have synergy with the self destruct type of cards
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deft belfry
gtg to work
empty bison
maybe [[bloodthirster]] as win con
Ohhh nice!!!
sweet ember
After using so many Utility Lands, I realize that [[Vedalken Shackles]] has stopped being worth it
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Artifact
You may choose not to untap this artifact during your untap step.
, : Gain control of target creature with power less than or equal to the number of Islands you control for as long as this artifact remains tapped.
sweet ember
Any recommendations on a removal piece to use in replacement?
storm fox
[[helm of possession]]?
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Artifact
You may choose not to untap this artifact during your untap step.
, , Sacrifice a creature: Gain control of target creature for as long as you control this artifact and this artifact remains tapped.
sweet ember
Oooh
Six mana is pricey
But I only considered Vedalken Shackles because it sounded like it would lead to fun shenanigans in politics anyways
deft belfry
i run [[chamber of manipulation]], which is little less janky than your shackles
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Enchantment โ Aura
Enchant land
Enchanted land has ", Discard a card: Gain control of target creature until end of turn."
Politics is just a subtle form of mind controlโand cephalids are master politicians.
deft belfry
but my has discard synergy
silk cairn
<@184136211655294976> why didnt you merge Tunnuk and rocket Raccon ! the double ...
Most of your Artifacts are 4 mana, too mana inneficient to sneak attack them especially since they have haste from Bello anyway
cold quartz
mon i just finished putting together a b2 burn/spellslinger deck, thoughts for inclusions/tuning? btw make sure to have tags on -
https://moxfield.com/decks/19EW8TLId0uDF2bEwYml2g
triumphant return to rakdos
cold quartz
it doesnt feel super inspired for bracket 2 but its not a bad start
deft belfry
guttersnipe-generator the commander if i didnt have so many projects tp brew i probably would have got myself one
not quite guttersnipe itself [[death waltz 2]]
deft belfry
oooh lol i am a No behind
cold quartz
yeah the idea for bracket 2 was to not have too many additional pingers and just get additional value from casting good spells/bad spells that are now better because they deal 6 dmg
so i think black waltz and the otter are the only additional pingers, i do have a few dmg doublers rn though
deft belfry
did you played [[mage contest]] in your pod
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deft belfry
how did that go
cold quartz
it was fun, got a lot of laughs so im including it again
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Land
: Add .
, : Target commander gains lifelink until end of turn.
Students from other colleges are invited to visit Witherbloom's medical facilities. Not many do.
deft belfry
easy way to gain a lot of life with damage doubler so even in rakdos there is a lot of sustain later in the game
cold quartz
do the abilities gain lifelink if the commander has it? or do you just mean for when its bigger turned over
deft belfry
where as [[whip of erebos]] will take up a slot but will probably do really well if you are slightly ahead, so clinic is easier to fit
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Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Creatures you control have lifelink.
, : Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. If it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Activate only as a sorcery.
deft belfry
the flip side mainly
whip is really good but without a board it is much worse
a land is easy to include
cold quartz
true, yeah i like that
deft belfry
i got myself a [[!fire nation palance]] but i am bad at using the mana XD
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[[dragon rage channeler]] ... not a wizard
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it does get doubled by harmonic prodigy
was hoping it is a better [[fandaniel telophori ascian]]
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yeah i do want more value from casting instant and sorcery cards i think
that arent direct burn
idk if rakdos has many of those
deft belfry
dance with calamity is tough, i cant predict how well it works with all these mana value
cold quartz
yeah idk either, figure its worth trying out
deft belfry
just value from spell cast like blue's [[emeritus archmage]]?
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[[virtue of courage]] is the closest i can think of off the top of my head
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Enchantment
Whenever a source you control deals noncombat damage to an opponent, you may exile that many cards from the top of your library. You may play those cards this turn.
Embereth Blaze
Instant โ Adventure
Embereth Blaze deals 2 damage to any target. (Then exile this card. You may cast the enchantment later from exile.)
cold quartz
might be too strong for bracket two tbh if i got my wizards out and am flipped
deft belfry
[[judith scourge conno]]
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just impulse draw half my deck ๐
cold quartz
true
deft belfry
all the new impulse are at least 1 full round 1-turn impulse
cold quartz
something more unique though maybe, it feels too burny for me and i kind of want it to be burn from valueing, more spellslinger
deft belfry
[[!light up the stage]] love this, and it doesnt get powercreeped out of my red decks
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cold quartz
hmm?
no proxy, all online, sometimes i do foils if they look cool but sometimes they look wierd on tabletop
deft belfry
i find all the "fire" or "light beam" foils to look the best with a good focal point
i guess online wouldnt always show
if anything i think birgi will be the storm problem
idk if it will be too strong here
cold quartz
yeah i was thinking that too
like why do bergi in b2 when i can hit everyone for 6 because i got [[hot soup]]
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Artifact โ Equipment
Equipped creature can't be blocked.
Whenever equipped creature is dealt damage, destroy it.
Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
"Comin' through!" Designed by James Ernest
deft belfry
birgi, stormkiln, runaway, that one ashlin, electroc, same thing
COMING THROUGH! whats your chant
when you play that
deft belfry
XD
deft belfry
hot behind sounds like someone sat on a hot potatoe but i guess that works too
cold quartz
hahaha naw its kitchen call outs
deft belfry
[[judith carnage connoisseur]]
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cold quartz
for when your slinging around 10 gallons of hot soup
deft belfry
that was the card i forgot the name
cold quartz
ooh yeah, im also building a b3 list with her that is burn
thats why i want this list to be more spellslinger
cold quartz
so yeah i might drop the generically good cards and throw in some funny 1cmc noncreature spells
yeah i got my generic midrange decks so now im branching out into different archetypes, hitting up some burn now, got control and want to throw a combo list together after these 2
deft belfry
blockers?
deft belfry
as much as i avoid using [[skullclamp]] in my own decks, its still one of the best draw engine in all format
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Artifact โ Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/-1.
Whenever equipped creature dies, draw two cards.
Equip
Mardu blacksmiths can distill the technology of any clan and make it their own. Whether or not they should is another question.
deft belfry
its like a reusable [[village rites]][[corrupted conviction]][[desperate measure]]
cold quartz
im a degenerate, i run a lot of skullclamp lol
deft belfry
i think i ran skullclamp in like 2/20+ decks? so less than 10%
i avoided it when i did my battlecruiser Teysa Karlov
cold quartz
i didnt include it in this deck so far because it is a generically good staple but also it takes so many turn cycles to flip kuja so i wouldnt want to sac wizards off early
and unless i include a lot more token gen, which i dont want to do, then it would be pretty unreliable to sac a nonwizard
deft belfry
right i need to put more focus on [[!kuja, gnome sorcerer]]
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deft belfry
[[!kuja, genome sorcerer]]
deft belfry
wow i was 1 letter off
cold quartz
thats fucked lol
oh could i include a 2nd end step card? what colors are those
isnt there an artifact that does that?
deft belfry
is it additional end step?
i dont recall that but i know that one unique card that
reverse the turn order
an interest way to "Flip" the game
cold quartz
ooh thats better
deft belfry
[[stonic resonator]] can double the end step trigger
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Artifact
, : Copy target triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy. (A triggered ability uses the words "when," "whenever," or "at.")
Its tines cannot be rung by mere physical force. Only magic of great power can start its eldritch resonance.
cold quartz
yeah blue has an additional end step card, not too many of those
reversing turn order sounds very b2
deft belfry
if you make copes of harmonic prodigy then it can also add triggers
cold quartz
yeah strionic sounds good, couldnt double the commander trigger when flipped too
could*
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deft belfry
double X is rough