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wicked gust
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100% same

deft belfry
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when we get the occasion universe within

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once in a blue moon

wicked gust
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I loved it, it was my first booster box, pulled land tax AND double season

deft belfry
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.-.

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must be nice 😒

wicked gust
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XD least I was single at the time, so

deft belfry
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my expensive pull was

wicked gust
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So wife pulls

deft belfry
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whats the protection from opponent

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[[true name nemesis]]

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
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I also pulled a Invocation thoughtseizw once

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Sold it dor $150

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I only ever opened 1 booster box of hod too

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Idk what my luck is

deft belfry
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cool card but i have no use for it, never used and traded away for like 100 ish $

wicked gust
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It is

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It's fun in merfolk tribal I'm sure

deft belfry
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your wife, i need to borrow her for my future booster box

wicked gust
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I did merfold in my pre release and it did well

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2 won 1 draw 2 loose

deft belfry
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i havent been to pre release for too long

wicked gust
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Last game I got mana Flooded so

deft belfry
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my seal luck is pretty bad

wicked gust
deft belfry
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limited draft i do better but i gave up trying to build a good deck

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i dont get either

wicked gust
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Pulled the goblin sharpshooter and blood Crypt, couldn't use em

deft belfry
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if i make it to break even

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i am basically at my best

wicked gust
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My pre release pulls lol

deft belfry
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i am not religious but my past self/ ancester probably did something diabolic so i am kinda cursed

wicked gust
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And my bundle box pulls

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That Temple Garden is that new double sided full art one

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Plan on selling it and the Overgrown Tomb

deft belfry
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[[tarrian soulcleaver]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i think this is generic enough and counter to treasure decks

wicked gust
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Think it's worth adding? I own an extra one I'm not using

deft belfry
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vigilance i really like in my rakdos decks

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green may not care as much but you can try it

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because i think you can affort the mana and card, then move it around to make multiple big creatures

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may even survive blasphemous act

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which then give the creature even more counters

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in the weirdest way, if it is somehow equipped onto an opponent's creature, then it can trigger patron XD. #thingsthatneverhappened

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the heck, i see [[gnarled grovestrider]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/vow/198/dormant-grove-gnarled-grovestrider

Dormant Grove <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
At the beginning of combat on your turn, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. Then if that creature has toughness 6 or greater, transform this enchantment.
As the natural cycle of day and night grew twisted, old powers stirred deep in the Ulvenwald.

Gnarled Grovestrider
Creature — Treefolk
Vigilance
Other creatures you control have vigilance.
Far from the bloodsoaked wedding, unseen by human eyes, a long-slumbering force arose to protect its home.
3/6

deft belfry
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weird jank in here lol

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i do want elf creature count to be on the higher side. let see how you change this after some testing

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each creature/card should do more than 1 thing unless it does the one thing really well

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every elf triggers commander and adds to 1/3 proliferate count

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so it matters if you can untap, make tokens, keep yourself safe and slowly get through your opponent

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[[crippling fear]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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[[costume closet]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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just realized its based on [[explorer's cache]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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maybe i can use that in the GW counter deck

storm fox
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I just played a game with ao

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Actually my first winning game with a sunscorched desert loop

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And when flare of fortitude happend i managed to kill of the last played with the yavimaya staff

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So i can say it works

deft belfry
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nice, thats a fun loop

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i havent seen that desert win since its most common with the broken nightmare dragon

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[[flare of fortitude]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i feel like this card is in the weird spot where B3 always has Teferi and B2 players are bad at protecting their stuff 😅

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and i guess its also from MH3 so not everyone runs it in every deck

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how much boost is Yavimaya staff giving you

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i think i had it in my boros decks before and it just didnt work out since the game ended in no time

wicked gust
wicked gust
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And I rarely run blue

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Speaking of blue, there's a deck I want revamped a bit to be a bit more consistent but not sure how

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It's won 1 game and lost like 3 or so, and the 1 was a bit of luck

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Or maybe I'm not playing it right

deft belfry
shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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since its like surveal/ draw land

wicked gust
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I don't think I own one sadly but I'll double check

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Wait I do

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It came in the ffx precon

deft belfry
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i know in GW its about 3 mana to put counters on everything

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it is cheap card, and yeah tidus got one

wicked gust
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Ye

deft belfry
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i cut it out since i dislike the 4 mana curve

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i think the demi-god put counter on everything that enters

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and is like 3 mana, but it might be better to have non creature too

deft belfry
wicked gust
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But I wanna revamp it, I've never been a fan of spellspam bit this one looked fun

deft belfry
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trying to find that [[fact or fiction ]] in there

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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looks like it is in the considering pile

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any special trick or interactions

wicked gust
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Huh I have seen how good it is late, I'll see about adding it back in

deft belfry
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first glance it just looks like 2 spell per turn, on opponent's turn to get dragons

wicked gust
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Idr anything too crazy. It's just "get token creature makers out, spam a few spells, get eris out asap, cast 2 spells a turn to get drakes with prowess a turn, repeat, smash face"

deft belfry
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its like spamming [[elemental eruption]] entire game

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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let me check for haste

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[[roar of resistance]] maybe

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
deft belfry
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and storm as sorcery lost majority of its potential

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storm is a broken mechanic and most interesting when used in respond to a counterspell war

wicked gust
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I saw the Costco Thunder Junction precon bundles and saw this was the last one and saw some crazy tech for eris and I was wanting to do spellspam again so it worked out

wicked gust
deft belfry
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"oh, our team played 4 spells this turn... Just let me cast my ritual and then STORM"

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i mean the storm spell

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having the extra use of cards like [[quicken]] makes sorcery spell with storm so much worse

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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if it is not on theme, i feel like casting a 6 drop without haste attacker is a waste

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it satisfy the Timmy part of the deck but is weird for its timing; having to untap for the next big turn to swing out

wicked gust
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True

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.ass haste maybe good to end it

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Since it should draw a lot maybe only 1 or 2 sources

deft belfry
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or like quicken turn it into pesudo haste before your turn untap

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one thing i would never do is, cast Eris without a second spell and pass

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4 spell in grave to reduce Eris to the lowest at 2 mana on first cast, then follow up with another spell

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if it dies, try to get another spell to reduce tax

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so anything that works like [[entomb]] to put two spells in grave is not bad

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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so for that reason, i would rate [[!consider]] to be slightly better than [!opt]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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no faithless looting?

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also in considering

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hmmm

wicked gust
deft belfry
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because of Eris's own cost reduction and the nature of counterspell with a "5" toughness commander

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idk if swiftfoot boots hexproof is actually needed

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like its never bad to have that protection

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but end of the day it doesnt give "more", something noticeable for the deck

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if a token dies, i can just make a new one

wicked gust
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So cut both boots and grieves?

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Could add in fact fiction and Faithless

deft belfry
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greaves is on another tier just because it has no equip cost

wicked gust
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Fair

deft belfry
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i think if you dont have red, giving haste with swiftfoot is your last resort without going into the $$ crossroad in green, or colourless identity

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in red, having multiple targets to protect, boots drops off a little

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i can see the [[silvercloak ]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “silvercloak”

deft belfry
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[[whispersilk cloak]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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having more value with a prowess attacker

wicked gust
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[[Silver shroud]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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without B3 tier removal cyc rift, i would consider [[aetherize]] [[zimone's hypothesis]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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then all the tokens get a free hit with prowess trigger on your turn

wicked gust
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Dang

deft belfry
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you see why i dont value boots here as much?

wicked gust
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Ye

deft belfry
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while you can put more protection pieces on the commander, i would look for more instant sorcery

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and whatever counterspells that comes my way

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[[boltbend]] > counter by fizzle > hexproof

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
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There's already a butt ton

deft belfry
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yeah, the power of blue

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Draw , pass

wicked gust
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Could add more like the ol classic off the gc list [[Deflecting Swat]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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is it off the GC list now?

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still dont own one and dont really planned on it unless it gets reprinted or proxy 😅

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i wonder if people actually uses [[redirect]] i dont remember the last time i heard this name

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
deft belfry
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🤦 so basically no

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premium reprint with new art

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is a new card and not a real reprint

wicked gust
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Eh not really

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[[$Deflecting swat]]

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
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Wow

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Tf

deft belfry
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they forgot to serealize it while they were at it

wicked gust
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Maybe should of waited as it went up to $100 lol

deft belfry
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i could have got the precon that has it but i gave out

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it was a good deal too

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it would be like buying Dswat and comes with 90+ other cards

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if you like upgrades, [[spark double]] is just OP in general

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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and [[roaming throne]] the most generic piece is like a second Veyran

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
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True could make a copy of the commander

deft belfry
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[[$spark double]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/62/spark-double

Prices for Spark Double
Ravnica Remastered

$16.53 • €7.43 • 0.62 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$9.72 • €8.15 • 0.34 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$315.32

Ravnica Remastered

$17.16 • €13.19 • 0.36 TIX

Commander Masters

$12.11 • €6.86 • 0.03 TIX

The List

$10.59

War of the Spark Promos

$8.24 • €5.61

War of the Spark Promos

$8.60 • €6.31

War of the Spark

$9.05 • €5.61 • 0.02 TIX

wicked gust
wicked gust
deft belfry
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$ wise, idk if it is ever worth getting throne, power wise, it is just so strong

wicked gust
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I have the full art Throne so

deft belfry
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as expected

wicked gust
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The dumb rainbow color one lol

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Got it for cheap at the time like $12

deft belfry
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every $$ card

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you have them all lol

wicked gust
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Not true

deft belfry
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rainbow?

wicked gust
deft belfry
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here i have like 1000 bulks that i either cant let go or too weak to put in decks

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ah thats Chinese text

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must be fake

wicked gust
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My bad I was thinking of another full str that's all rainbow

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It isnt actually chines just the first image I found lol

deft belfry
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oh ok

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my. first fake cards ever were ygo when i was a kid

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the image is like cut from certain scenes and the effect is absolute bull that doesnt make sense

wicked gust
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Same

deft belfry
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[[infinite elemental]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/ulst/29/infinity-elemental

Infinity Elemental <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Elemental
(This creature has INFINITE POWER.)
It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says, "It's so infinite that its flavor text says,
∞/5

deft belfry
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it was lowkey this but on Exodia's head

wicked gust
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Lol

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Imagine giving it trample

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Sent to the shadow realm

deft belfry
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but now we have that at home and is cooler

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[[jumbo cactus]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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and legal

wicked gust
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True

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I don't own it sadly so Idk how funny it is

deft belfry
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i saw a build that uses it with [[tifa martial artist]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/fic/6/tifa-martial-artist

Tifa, Martial Artist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Monk
Melee (Whenever this creature attacks, it gets +1/+1 until end of turn for each opponent you attacked this combat.)
Whenever one or more creatures you control with power 7 or greater deal combat damage to a player, untap all creatures you control. If it's the first combat phase of your turn, there is an additional combat phase after this phase.
4/4

deft belfry
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because over 9000 isnt enough

wicked gust
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Obviously

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So ideas in 7 curs for eris? Lol

deft belfry
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[[wall of one thousand cuts]] your deck building in a nutshell lol

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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what did you just added in

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[[baral expertise]] i never used this to know its effect well

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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esp if i cant use it on myself

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it is 5 mana to cast up to 9 mana worth

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but at sorcery it is a very awkward point at least for me

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may take out one of those, and potential upgrade is [[hermes overseer of elp]]

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deft belfry
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dont like this dragon

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even the red one is kinda meh with omen

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[[!Will of the Temur]] oh cool it draw 10 cards

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i guess you do need to control commander for that

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i dont like izzet charm

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[[lock and load]] is kinda weird but i guess it works

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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dont need redirect main deck

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dislike serum version

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so i mentioned 6 cards i would cut here

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3 spells and 2 omen dragons

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may not want bounceland unless you play with untap spells

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i would replace thrill of possibility with [[reverberate]] to copy those [[unexpected windfall]] without the additional cost

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
deft belfry
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some of my rambling are not card suggestions lol

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redirection isnt one

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i think the deck may not need izzet signet depends on the final curve

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and having the open mana could matter so at least do talisman in this case if you need the rock

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i would prefer something that can mill in order to get more cmc into the grave

wicked gust
deft belfry
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you do have the untap land spells too so its okay

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snap, rewind etc

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while think twice & radical idea arent really good card, they are very fitting for this commander with the getting more things into the grave

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and extra spells

wicked gust
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Exactly

deft belfry
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thats why i didnt like the omens because they dont hit the grave and when they do, they are not instant sorcery

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they are bad advantures XD

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as cool as the design resembles it, its more of a downgrade

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again [[lock and load]] idk how i feel about this one

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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whats your experience with the expertise, is it game saving

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i think the white one is the worst, [[[scram expertise]] and never seen the black one played, i really want to use in a deck

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “scram expertise”

deft belfry
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[[sram's expertise]]

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deft belfry
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i tried that in my hardest deck and it was pretty bad even in that

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the tokens are not worth the double white

wicked gust
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Went from 27 draw spells to 20 lol

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But it's at 100

deft belfry
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the omens replace themselves

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so they are kinda cantrips

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serum again cantrip

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izzet actually goes down in cards

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you should change some of those tags

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if it only replace itself, it isnt a good draw spell

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[[archmage emeritus]][[archmage of runes]] doesnt draw when it comes in like [[mulldrifter]] but are much better draw engine than basically anything else you can get

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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while at worst mulldrifter is a dinvination on a body, and i dont even know if anyone runs [[quick study]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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so i would say, if that draw isnt at least equivalent to quick study's rate of card draw 1.5 mana for 1 card, it is not really card advantage

wicked gust
deft belfry
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i think you have to hit the first 4/5 land drop in this deck

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MDFC from MH3 are the commander staples if you got those

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the effect doesnt matter, they are lands that enters untapped that can be cast/seen as spell in grave

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oh just realized there is another omen <.<

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i guess it has a body? if you want that

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... feels meh

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not enough consistent ways to keep up the hand size...

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i am here topdecking all mana sources lol

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7 lands +mana dorks in a row, spell, 3 lands, spell, 4 lands

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swap [[runescale stormbrood]] for emeritus

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
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Surprised emeritus isn't legendary, he has a legendary name

deft belfry
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if i dont have cards in hand, i would sparkdouble that over commander

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[[bender's waterskin]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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[[Twinflame Travelers]] new elemental support basically the budget roaming throne

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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but it would also kick out some of those "cast instant/sorcery make a drake" effect

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replace Opt with [[thought scour]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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oh i forgot this type of land [[lindblum industrial regency]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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spell land

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[[Agna Qel'a]] whatever land that allows draw [[Desolate Lighthouse]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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getting your commander out is similar to the threshold mechanic afterall [[Cephalid Coliseum]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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not saying you should play threshold but focus on getting card off quick

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and finally noticed commander has flying so instead of [[roar of resistance]] [[dragon tempest]] is much stronger

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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if you want to be aggressive [[terror of the peak]] will probably end the game quick

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i believe it checks the power on enter so prowess increase wont matter most of the time

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[[meeting of minds]] is like the upgrade version of quick study btw

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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going higher in the curve (maybe too high) has [[artistic refusal]] and [[transcendent message]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/mom/83/transcendent-message

Transcendent Message <:manax:292901509082120202><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for mana1 or one mana of that creature's color.)
Draw X cards.
Wrenn reached out to Teferi through the Blind Eternities, and an impossible connection flared across the vast emptiness.

deft belfry
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next thing i would cut is probably a creature

brisk rose
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[[Threats Undetected]]

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
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Oh random question, I'm really starting to like [[maximum carnage]] for the kardur deck I showed you, thoughts on adding it in?

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i am sure its a card i mentioend before but its just kinda hard to get even tho the set only came out recently

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to put it simple it does 3 things one at a time, while not seemingly very synergistic

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goad everything, pillow fort yourself for a round even at 5 mana is fine since there is perhaps where the table have enough power where it matters. since it is not "repeatable" on itself, your opponent dont really have the incentive to remove it

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and chapter 2 is just one of my favourite, big mana return when you untap [[gilded lotus]]

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deft belfry
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then 5 damage last chapter to add a bit more damage after all that goading and previous big turn hopefully put your opponent in a bad enough spot if not lethal

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protection, acceleration, aggression in that order for the 3 chapters.

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with very little interactions for it

brisk rose
wicked gust
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[[$maximum carnage]]

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
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How is it .02 pounds in Europe?

wicked gust
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But also Spiderman packs are very accessible where I live, not Manu people like it. Even a random book store had a whole booster box on sale and Packs for $6 each

deft belfry
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it would be stupid for me to say "Green card can be play in a deck with green colour identity and add up to 2 creatures to hand"

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am starting to thinking if [[disrupt decorum]] is needed in a kardur deck

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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perhaps carnage took over that spot

wicked gust
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It's in there though?

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Ye it's there

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I took out lightning Greaves, as I said I plan on targeting kardur for bounce affects so cant do that with shroud

storm fox
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so +11

storm fox
deft belfry
deft belfry
wicked gust
cold quartz
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@deft belfry i got inspired for a deck i actually want to build. I want to build around flash, foretell and or morph..not sure what commander i want to use for it since theres a lot of options (see below) do you have any additional recommendations or what out of the listed you think would work best?
[[katilda and lier], [[Edgin, Larcenous Lutenist]], [[Lier, Disciple of the Drowned]], [[Elsha of the Infinite]], [[Tayam, Luminous Enigma]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1242/bohn-beguiling-balladeer

Edgin, Larcenous Lutenist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Bard
Each nonland card in your hand without foretell has foretell. Its foretell cost is equal to its mana cost reduced by mana2. (During your turn, you may pay mana2 and exile it from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)
Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, goad target creature an opponent controls.
3/3

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https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/208/elsha-of-the-infinite

Elsha of the Infinite <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Djinn Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may cast noncreature spells from the top of your library. If you cast a spell this way, you may cast it as though it had flash.
3/3

cold quartz
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also [[Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer]] i already have a sultai commander deck, but this is definitely a different flavor of it though

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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or [[Volo, Guide to Monsters]]

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
deft belfry
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kadena's deck is the most flushed out since lot of the cards are flip/morph focused, the other ones have more flexibility

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🏃‍➡️ dinner time

deft belfry
# shrewd zealot https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1242/bohn-beguiling-balladeer

Toooo interesting of a card and so versatile with pretty much anything, you can call it "cost reduction" but technically* the total cost doesnt change, all it did is using the foretell mechanic to do [[ice cauldron]] thing and split up your cost over 2 sperate turns. and since it doesnt have black for some more sneaky things and green for powerful creatures synergy, it may fall into the "storm/fury" sort of jeskai spellslinger play style, so the morph is a good touch. Note that the most important aspect of foretelling is the timing. the best time to foretell a card is the end step

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/me4/206/ice-cauldron

Ice Cauldron <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
manax, manat: You may exile a nonland card from your hand. You may cast that card for as long as it remains exiled. Put a charge counter on this artifact and note the type and amount of mana spent to pay this activation cost. Activate only if there are no charge counters on this artifact.
manat, Remove a charge counter from this artifact: Add this artifact's last noted type and amount of mana. Spend this mana only to cast the last card exiled with this artifact.

deft belfry
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goading is just an add-on where [[bothersome quas]] basically fits in any theme with non creature soft restriciton trigger

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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the goad part i think is not very important other than "You dont want to waste all your spells in one turn. We want you to do 8 spells over the course of a round of turn cycle"

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second aspect of foretell is that you basically have hand size immunity since cards in exile cannot be interacted with. its like how reliquary tower counters [[Winter, Misantro]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/240/es/winter-guía-misantrópico-(winter-misanthropic-guide)

Winter, guía misantrópico <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Criatura legendaria — Brujo humano
Rebatir mana2.
Al comienzo de tu mantenimiento, cada jugador roba dos cartas.
Delirio — Mientras entre las cartas de tu cementerio haya cuatro o más tipos de cartas, el tamaño máximo de la mano de cada oponente es igual a siete menos la cantidad de esos tipos de cartas.
3/4

deft belfry
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"opponents hand size reduce by X"

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or 7

cold quartz
deft belfry
cold quartz
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not sure which of the 3 mechanics I want to play around with the most, but essentially want it to be played almost like a "land, pass" deck

deft belfry
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[[niv mizz supreme]] basically doubles your spell count so having that as the commander is like playing with a 130 cards deck instead

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
deft belfry
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luer do have the interesting part where it suggest "no counterspells" but blue really can do lot of cheeky ways of bouncing spells on the stack

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[[dismissal]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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dang it

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i cant remember blue card names

cold quartz
deft belfry
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oh i was only a little off [[summary dismissal]]

cold quartz
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i know which one your talking about

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i cant think of the name either

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i think there was an upgrade/power creep of the card

cold quartz
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yeah i think so, i dont remember that one

deft belfry
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i thought of picking upthe reprint one from inastrat and then remembered, i dont really play counterspells at all

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😅

cold quartz
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ah your still pure

deft belfry
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but in causal [[mindbreak trap]] is really not great

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i am worse

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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if i want to do counterspells, i will just play HARD stax to stop the card from ever reaching the stack at all

cold quartz
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eh ive deffinitely had a lot of casual games where that can go hard

deft belfry
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i would do reveal hand discard etc

cold quartz
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oh you are worse

deft belfry
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not my casual games at sorcery spell lol

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i am the stormiest player at my table

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but my jank is just not doing the work XD

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you can give me infinite mana and 3 tutors

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still lose the game

cold quartz
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yeah i played against someone a week or two ago that revolved around discarding..over like 7 turns or so they churned through 50-60 cards in their deck but at the same time wasnt really doing anything and im like what is the point of this, either get some wincons in there and move up a bracket or stop wasting the tables time watching you look at cards

deft belfry
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so most of the people i played against, dont really think of me as the threat or best player/deck builder for that reason, but i do pull off silly dumb things to make most games more enjoyable, or cards they never heard of

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discard is one that i failed at too, the game doesnt have enough things to support around the discard win without wheel

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foretell + wheel is an interest way to dodge your discard

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[[wheel of misfortune]] everyone knows you want to draw 7

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/211/wheel-of-misfortune

Wheel of Misfortune <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Each player secretly chooses a number 0 or greater, then all players reveal those numbers simultaneously and determine the highest and lowest numbers revealed this way. Wheel of Misfortune deals damage equal to the highest number to each player who chose that number. Each player who didn't choose the lowest number discards their hand, then draws seven cards.

cold quartz
# deft belfry so most of the people i played against, dont really think of me as the threat or...

oh i am deffinitely becoming the always target this guy first at my table, but the people we play with changes so not everyone has caught on and still targets the guy that got me into magic while he keeps politicing and telling people to target me who then dont listen and focus him, interesting pod dynamics rn lol, essentially becomes a 1v1 with 2 other people to add some chaos to our heated b attle

deft belfry
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did you skipped over the Green dragon and using it with [[trepanation blade]]

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
deft belfry
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every ways to bait everyone into grabbing more lands from their library and then go for the mill will be funny

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the ultimate [[tempt of discovery]]

cold quartz
shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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you gotta be more specific

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[[old gnawbone]]?

deft belfry
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you had the white AO one

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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and that started the rest of the cycle right

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or did i confuse you with someone else

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lol

cold quartz
deft belfry
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lol

cold quartz
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i think your confusing me with another person

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i almost never play white

deft belfry
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yeah, its not a card you can gauge based on the situation and people who knows what they are doing, knows it is a trap

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ah okay

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it was this cycle

cold quartz
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ahhh

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cool, i think ive only seen the black and red versions

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the blue one sounds good

deft belfry
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if our user names arent so different, i would have thought i am talking to myself

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no one likes the Green one lol

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it started with Ao landfall

cold quartz
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yeah i could see the green one being cheeks

deft belfry
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Kairi is a token killer

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i think i am bias to the green one here for the simple reason, it has deathtouch, green can get trample easily. i can achieve my favourite combination of the two with minimal effort

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even tho it is irrelevant with flying evasion

cold quartz
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oh a couple other commanders i think could fit that theme that i found [[damia, sage of stone]] a chill version kinda of [[animar]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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Multiple cards match “animar”, can you be more specific?

cold quartz
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[[animar, soul of elements]]

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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kinda chill animar, i mean as a totally not chill commander lol

deft belfry
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anyways.. Luer can do weird interaction with some MDFCs i remember but mono blue is mono blue in the end. idk what other things fits the bill.
Elsha is in a weird place where you want tons of non creature spells in order to get value

cold quartz
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yeah i think lier is my least favorite

deft belfry
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unless i know forsure elsha isnt a combo deck, i assume it is when i see it face up

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with my habit of no counterspells, thats the first player i focus aggro on

cold quartz
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elsha could be cool but i think she as the commander would want a much more cantrip style with prowess that i dont really like

deft belfry
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even if you are topdecking lands

cold quartz
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yeah fair

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ive actually not seen this as a commander

deft belfry
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i think i saw two, coinflip on the storm turn win

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somewhat fair [[gamble]] play style

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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my red gamble brain be like [[golbin spy]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “golbin spy”

cold quartz
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for my purposes it would essentially be another card in hand with guarenteed flash

deft belfry
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[[goblin spy]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i see

cold quartz
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which as a 5 drop is sounding not that good

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i think my top choices are volo or kadena for blue flash and green morph

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and volo copies morph which is cool

deft belfry
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volo is nonbo with morph tho

cold quartz
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nonbo?

deft belfry
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those facedown "copies" cannot flip

cold quartz
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o

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well damn

deft belfry
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combo > nonbo

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nombo?

cold quartz
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hmm

deft belfry
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nonmbo is the closest to a word i can call it

cold quartz
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i like nonbo better

deft belfry
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kk

cold quartz
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nonmbo haha

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thats good too

deft belfry
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as weird as names like [[mmmemnon right hand]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “mmmemnon right hand”

cold quartz
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even the bot is like tf is that

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question, is it possible to play edgin in storm colors as non storm, is there enough support

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or would that just be a looot worse

deft belfry
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[[mm'menon the right hand]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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Multiple cards match “edgin”, can you be more specific?

cold quartz
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[[Edgin, Larcenous Lutenist]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1242/bohn-beguiling-balladeer

Edgin, Larcenous Lutenist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Bard
Each nonland card in your hand without foretell has foretell. Its foretell cost is equal to its mana cost reduced by mana2. (During your turn, you may pay mana2 and exile it from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)
Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, goad target creature an opponent controls.
3/3

deft belfry
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oh yeah him

cold quartz
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lose good morph for everything has foretell

deft belfry
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any colour can be storm technically, but real storm has "payoff" so in singleton storm kinda fails and are mostly inconsistent

cold quartz
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idk about that

deft belfry
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[[brain freeze]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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you always have [[thousand year storm]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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izzet is the colours with most storm stuff

cold quartz
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[[rionya, firedancer]] and [[veyran, voice of duality]] would like to have a word

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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you dont have to storm as long as you have value to keep playing cards

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even the Dash mechanic can give an extra spell cast per turn

cold quartz
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idk if ive seen dash

deft belfry
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well, that would be creature spell

cold quartz
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what set is that from

deft belfry
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[[ragavan, nimble]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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priate set?

cold quartz
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ahh oh yeah

deft belfry
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loving playing volo, since anything copied that has synergy with itself is just insane value [[sanctum weaver]] both taps for 2, [[mulldrifter]] token stays and thats 3 mana draw 4. overall creature heavy deck that doesnt really have the synergy with facedowns. kadena has a very "narrow" direction with the core being mainly facedown creatures, so it doesnt get upgrades often even with all the new cards. Tayam is probably the weirdest one. it cheat cards from grave to field without casting spells

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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ohh one that kinda fits with the land pass thing would be [[ephara, god of the polis]] my flashs and stuff would replace themselves

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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interesting choice

cold quartz
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white blue is kinda a gross color combo tho i will say

deft belfry
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depends on your direction

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white doesnt mean stax and blue doesnt mean counterspell tribal

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although it is align with the control colours

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i should have picked up [[sunbird invocation]] when it was cheap,

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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no wrong name

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[[song bird blessing]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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was going to do a UW voltron

cold quartz
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essentially i want the deck to put it in ygo terms, all trap cards

deft belfry
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with auras

cold quartz
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or at leasst be mindgamey with wtf is all this facedown shit

deft belfry
cold quartz
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or unspent mana for

deft belfry
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Gif so bad it shows a MONSTA CARDO

cold quartz
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since i play a lot of blue my table is realllly worried when i leave mana up

deft belfry
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kek

cold quartz
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i got them conditioned snapCool

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which works in my favor because they are worried about the counterspell when i dont have it

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or at least response type things

deft belfry
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and here i am trying to make my [[possibility storm]] + [[thorn of amethyst]] + [[mai scornful striker]] + [[vexing baulble]] deck

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/34/possibility-storm

Possibility Storm <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell from their hand, that player exiles it, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a card that shares a card type with it. That player may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then they put all cards exiled with this enchantment on the bottom of their library in a random order.

cold quartz
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lol wtf is that

deft belfry
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casting anything will hurt really bad, and you dont want to destroy the wrong piece since vexing bauble will shut down the game

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like i said, i am not blue, i am worse

cold quartz
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4 card combo 👮

deft belfry
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nah the whole deck is filled with things that will kill me since my commander is Rowan

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self pain for big jank spells

cold quartz
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yeah i dont think blue is inherintly mean, it just gets that reputation from 'bad' players that just want to actually play solitare until someone solitares better and wins

deft belfry
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and someone is going to say "Its technically not a combo, it doesnt win the game"

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🤓

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me: "I played possibility storm, i already won mentally"

cold quartz
shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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ooh that one i will hurt myself even more

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idk if i can gain enough life to offset it

cold quartz
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same lol

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but i will try or go down in a blaze of glory

deft belfry
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and i dont want a sure ways to prevent the life loss

cold quartz
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same

deft belfry
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X = 20 easy

cold quartz
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hahaha true, better version of whats her face copying x effects

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starts with an M i think

deft belfry
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true, copy you dont lose for the copies

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a legendary that copies?

cold quartz
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yeah it adds 2 colorless and copies x spells

deft belfry
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not too sure what you meant. I see Teval as the spellslinger version of muldrotha

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as colourless mana like a mana rock?

cold quartz
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i just mean with using delve to make x=20 is a better version of that commander i cant think of

deft belfry
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there is the hydra but it doesnt copy X spell

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it make X/X hydra

cold quartz
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found it

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[[Magus Lucea Kane]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/40k/7/magus-lucea-kane

Magus Lucea Kane <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Tyranid Wizard
Spiritual Leader — At the beginning of combat on your turn, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Psychic Stimulus — manat: Add manacmanac. When you next cast a spell with manax in its mana cost or activate an ability with manax in its activation cost this turn, copy that spell or ability. You may choose new targets for the copy. (A copy of a permanent spell becomes a token.)
1/1

deft belfry
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[[unbound flourishing]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i see now, i was thinking sultai

cold quartz
deft belfry
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seen it once, it kinda got stuck a bit but overall did a lot

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the temur legend from 40k

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as for [[$unbound flourishing]]

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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damn thats only 14?!

deft belfry
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also seen it once, user thought it was double X instead of double spells

cold quartz
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i suppose x decks arent that popular

deft belfry
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so it was really hard to counter two spells

deft belfry
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cant afford 😭

cold quartz
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no proxy is for suckers imo for that reason

deft belfry
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"Hey daughter, no food for you this week, need to build a new deck"

cold quartz
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oh my cardboard costs more than yours, sucks to suck

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like [[$ancient copper dragon]] has no reason being that expensive but it is because of no reprints

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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dont you worry

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we arent getting any reprints for the next 7 SETS

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and if there is a reprint, it is a NEW card with new art and special treatment

cold quartz
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yeah thats because i need my tarzan crossover mon

deft belfry
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serialized premium product

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need my pokemon UB

cold quartz
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now you get it

deft belfry
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didnt actually recall Tarzan til now XD

cold quartz
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but because pokemon is an expensive ip to use, a box retails for 800

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have fun with your 200 dolor one ring that goes in all decks

deft belfry
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its going to spark controvestial topics if they have Tarzan with Ape support typal

cold quartz
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ape could use some help

deft belfry
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yes... but human ape

cold quartz
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ill get wizards on this

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ah do a lorwyn flip effect for it

deft belfry
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it will get on the dark side of internet humur

cold quartz
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honestly the lorwyn set is sick ngl

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origonally gave us gems like mulldrifter and now its back to give us vivi 2.0 with ashling

deft belfry
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Its vivi 2.0? what did i miss

cold quartz
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idk if it actually has that reputation yet but i think so

wicked gust
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[[Ashling limitless]]?

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/ecc/1/ashling-the-limitless

Ashling, the Limitless <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Elemental Sorcerer
Elemental permanent spells you cast from your hand gain evoke mana4 as you cast them. (If you cast a spell for its evoke cost, it's sacrificed when it enters.)
Whenever you sacrifice a nontoken Elemental, create a token that's a copy of it. The token gains haste until end of turn. At the beginning of your next end step, sacrifice it unless you pay manawmanaumanabmanarmanag.
2/3

cold quartz
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ye

wicked gust
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I haven't seen it do anything crazy

deft belfry
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hmmm

cold quartz
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what

deft belfry
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i dont think its vivi level

wicked gust
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Same

deft belfry
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it can do things forsure, not kill on sight from what i can found

wicked gust
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Less you have a butt ton of mana

cold quartz
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it has countless ways to go infinite accidently, and evne if you arent going infinite your just playing 2 8cmc creatures on turn 3 or 4

wicked gust
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But theg don't stay

cold quartz
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one doesnt stay

wicked gust
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If you can't pat wubrg

deft belfry
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i dont think anyone wants to pay the 5c

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you just take the token and populate/ sundial etc

cold quartz
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yeah but theres like 15+ cards that either make it stay or also cards that give you extra benefits for the sac

wicked gust
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Oh speaking of if you have [[fist of the sun]] does it makes the wubrg paying to keep em free?

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “fist of the sun”

deft belfry
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which is not important because

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thats a trigger ability

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not casting with alternative cost

wicked gust
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Rip

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Anyways to reduce the cost of that?

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The color PIP wise

deft belfry
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make more mana [[timeless lotus]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i know you have this

wicked gust
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Technical no

deft belfry
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its only like.... $25? [[$timeless lotus]]

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
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It does come in the precon

deft belfry
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oh i am way off

wicked gust
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But I don't own the precon yet

deft belfry
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wait wtf

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its REPRINTED

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i didnt know

wicked gust
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I just said XD

cold quartz
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they did it

deft belfry
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dang i may need myself one

wicked gust
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It comes in the elemental precon

deft belfry
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its truely a timeless piece of card board

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one card thats worth playing 5 lands in a turn

wicked gust
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Ye

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I cant wait for my precons

deft belfry
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let your wife open it for extra lucky pulls

wicked gust
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Bruh precons don't have collector packs anymore

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So no point

deft belfry
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idc, she will somehow turn the 99 into something better

wicked gust
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Best case is its a misprint deck or has that pokemon energy misprints

deft belfry
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but did they really take away the sample packs too

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i suspected that but didnt read anything about it

wicked gust
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It is 100% true

deft belfry
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whats pokemon energy misprint

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i live under my cardboard rock

wicked gust
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Bruh the elements precon has been having some cards have pokemon card game energy misprints on them

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Hang on ill try to find one

deft belfry
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XD wtf

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yeah i am definitely living under a rock

wicked gust
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Also a dude had a deck of nothing but aunt oola and scarecrow in a Blight commander deck

cold quartz
wicked gust
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Ye

cold quartz
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pokemon set confirmed

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mon your dreams are coming true

wicked gust
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Trying to find it now hang on

deft belfry
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just trying not to drown when all the weight collapse on me

deft belfry
wicked gust
cold quartz
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your printer can 👍

deft belfry
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damn

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bold of you to think i can afford a pri....

cold quartz
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wait wtf lol

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i assumed it would be a different pip art

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but no it just says it on there

deft belfry
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that upside down fire is lit

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🔥

wicked gust
deft belfry
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the closest i can do is burn my collection for some warmth in the cold weather

deft belfry
cold quartz
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yeah its freezing where i am, could use it

deft belfry
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marketed as: out of the box playable precon

wicked gust
deft belfry
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"This product is not for you"

cold quartz
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true lol didnt think about that

deft belfry
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why did you think the new design of commander precon no longer have the clear plastic front

cold quartz
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so what do you think mon, what commander would you pick

deft belfry
deft belfry
cold quartz
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ye

deft belfry
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do you want real trap cards [[runeflare trap]]

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
deft belfry
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I will activate my Victim Card in response

deft belfry
cold quartz
deft belfry
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consider blue as the main colour of your choice

cold quartz
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yeah for sure

deft belfry
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white and green "must play" cards to see if you need those colours

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every facedown is just another [[willbender]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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whenever you put a card face down

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pull the Joey move "I set a Trap card face down"

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"wait you are not suppose to know that, i meant i set a ... spell card"

cold quartz
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wait they arent supposed to know that? my childhood yugioh anime watching life is a lie

deft belfry
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I think in one eps Joey said something along the line of

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I am going to set down this Trap card

cold quartz
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next your gonna tell me theres no heart of the cards

deft belfry
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but since you can set spells or traps, there is no reason to announce that to give extra information

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there is

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just that

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its not in Ygo its in poker

cold quartz
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idk i think about the heart of the cards when i draw my 6th land in a row

deft belfry
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[[thats rough buddy]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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just cut a land

cold quartz
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naw im a blue player, just add more card draw

deft belfry
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[[goblin spy]] let me guess, what my next card is

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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time to main deck my [[experimental fenzy]]

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
deft belfry
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as a white hater, i would already say no XD

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but you can surprise me when you pull off the jeskai one

cold quartz
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honestly fair, but ephara sounds cool

deft belfry
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or that

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😒

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Blue players

cold quartz
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hahahahah

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hey the jeskai one is cool too

deft belfry
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XD i think you are just rubbing it in

cold quartz
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i only i had to google jeskai colors before i answered

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i really dont know my 3 color names

deft belfry
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i do anything that has Rakdos in them

cold quartz
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hell i barely know 2 color names if it werent for the decks running their signets

deft belfry
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i wish to play my rakdos suicidal play style in mono colours or even colourless

cold quartz
deft belfry
cold quartz
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i see why you hated on my rakdos hate now lol

deft belfry
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dw i will whip you into shape

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idk how to make that come out right so i wont even try

cold quartz
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hey you can take the blue away from the blue player but you cant take the blue player out of me

deft belfry
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so you will do blue in [[dune brood]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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😈

cold quartz
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yeah ill draw cards from the tokens, from the player damage and for lands entering cus why not

deft belfry
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sigh we need to ban skullclamp

cold quartz
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no we need to ban basic island

deft belfry
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dont make me hate another colour other than white

cold quartz
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what do you hate about white? the fact they have the least fun?

deft belfry
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even in context i sound racist af 😅

cold quartz
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o look guys i made a bunch of tokens for the 100th game then played my protection spells and removed your stuff

deft belfry
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[[path to exile]] [[sword of plowshare]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “sword of plowshare”

deft belfry
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[[sword to plowshare]]

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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you dont got to link those brother

deft belfry
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i see white as that orderly righteously character with the moral high ground, aka hypocrite

cold quartz
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i see white as the most boring game plan, playing out the exact same way every game

deft belfry
cold quartz
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then complains when they lose because they are playing white and dont have good access to card draw or ramp, taking the moral high ground

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yeah fuck whites

deft belfry
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but white DO have access

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oh i read /s

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why you winning you are white 😭

cold quartz
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i mean they do now

cold quartz
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im like bro where is your [[esper sentinal]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i think the last 4-5 years white kept getting draws

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[[gnome geomancer]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “gnome geomancer”

deft belfry
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[[deep gnome geo

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[[deep gnome geo]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “deep gnome geo”

deft belfry
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[[deep gnome terra]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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okay not just draw

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when white can ramp harder than [[ramping growth]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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something do feel wrong

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wtf is ramping growth

cold quartz
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also white has the single best ramp spell [[settle the wreakage]]

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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that took a minnute to find

deft belfry
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XD

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[[wind of abandon]] is how i remembered this stuff

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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no you dont ramp yourself, thats not very white

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[[$settle the wreckage]]

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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yeah then youd lose that high ground

deft belfry
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i have the [[high groud]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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forgot the one that is 2 mana

cold quartz
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theyll probably rerelease that for the star wars crossover

deft belfry
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give all your creature that allow with vigilance

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<.<

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oh my

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finally we can get some real guns

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and yet, not a single shot was hit that day

cold quartz
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its too easy to get off topic with you lol, so youd like to see some jeskai shenanigans?

deft belfry
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"Remember, you will never hit the MC"

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deft belfry
cold quartz
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no i mean with elsha, thats what you said a min ago

deft belfry
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covoke [[jeskai ascendency]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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hmm wont work with creature

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because you cant foretell off topdeck

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and no creature spells

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i am not seeing the connection with elsha here

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bounce let you reuse flipped cards

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but then it is kinda revealed

cold quartz
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oh you said ephara not elsha

deft belfry
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thats azorius

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not jeskai

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lol yeah show me what the god can do

cold quartz
deft belfry
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idc, either one all of them, i will check it out

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i wasnt sure if white was going to be your thing or it was all a joke. i like to keep my friends close and enemy closer.

cold quartz
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or i could go bant and do all 3 with [[Chulane, Teller of Tales]]

shrewd zealotBOT
cold quartz
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idk either, i thought rakdos might have been my thing too

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that also has built in blink, ooo

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that honestly just sounds like a better ephara for 1 more mana that also gives me access to morph creatures with green

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idk about them tho because i dont really want to make a creatures deck, more of a subtheme for each

deft belfry
wicked gust
deft belfry
wicked gust
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It is scary

deft belfry
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but i am sure you can talk your table out of it

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maybe...

wicked gust
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All those brawl commanders were scarry

cold quartz
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idk this chulane, what makes it scary? certainly its not scary with flash/morph/foretell theme and like nothing else

deft belfry
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-_- you didnt tag stuff dang it

cold quartz
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well scary for a different reason

wicked gust
deft belfry
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low curve so i may do tapped land swaps

cold quartz
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im asuming chulane would be scary with combos on its tap ability?

deft belfry
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card type ratio and counter synergy is there

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i can highlight mana sources and draw easily

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green usually lacks creature removal

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or wipes

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deck is doable as is

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the small details on category will be easier to spot after tagging

wicked gust
deft belfry
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[[mirrorfrom]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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No card found for “mirrorfrom”

deft belfry
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[[$mirrorform]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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think i am most excited about this card from this new set

wicked gust
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Tags should be good

deft belfry
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okay

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[[wirewood ]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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[[wirewood lodge]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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this card

wicked gust
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I don't think I own one less it came in the elf lotr precon

deft belfry
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not the first one

wicked gust
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I gor it from mystery booster box 1

deft belfry
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nice

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it was in my first ever deck since thats all the cards i had in 2008

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🧓

wicked gust
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Ggs

deft belfry
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"back in my days, i can read card effect in one breath"

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"nowadays everyone have asthma''

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can count [[kishla village]] as "draw"

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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myriad landscale is a maybe for me with all the low cost cards

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i would definitely swap out basic tapped fetches

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without strong land synergy, i am indifference about rot farm

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lands that cares about counters

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for ex [[blastzone]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/987/blast-zone

Blast Zone

Land
This land enters with a charge counter on it.
manat: Add manac.
manaxmanax, manat: Put X charge counters on this land.
mana3, manat, Sacrifice this land: Destroy each nonland permanent with mana value equal to the number of charge counters on this land.

deft belfry
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[[helios one]]

shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/pip/149/helios-one

HELIOS One

Land
manat: Add manac.
mana1, manat: You get manae (an energy counter).
mana3, manat, Pay X manae, Sacrifice this land: Destroy target nonland permanent with mana value X. Activate only as a sorcery.
The plant is still capable of activating the devastating ARCHIMEDES satellite weapon.

deft belfry
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whatever jank you own

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oil counter has something too

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[[nesting ground]] is in the FF precon

shrewd zealotBOT
wicked gust
deft belfry
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yeah

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it was above $2 at one point before that reprint

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i wonder if [[winding constrictor]] is any good

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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but i dont think you want to cut elves for the most part so its whatever

wicked gust
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Nope

strange frost
wicked gust
deft belfry
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XD rekt by the size of your collection

deft belfry
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i see USD on moxfield if thats relevant

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[[$rent due]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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for an avg deck the curve is fine, but here with little draw and ramp it is kind of high

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strange frost
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like $3 now I guess

deft belfry
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so you basically want the cheapest cards possible

strange frost
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yeah

deft belfry
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for a deck that is super budget

strange frost
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rent is due is good

deft belfry
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the problem is that lot of cards are too weak and red white already struggles in singleton and card advantage

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[[sunfire torch]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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this type of card is not doing much

strange frost
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yeah, it was the cheapest 2 color legend that I could find

deft belfry
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idek if you have the damage for a 1vs 1 when the format begin with 40 starting life total

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[[ill-tempered cyclops]]

shrewd zealotBOT
strange frost
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probably not, but its a bracket 1 deck so...

deft belfry
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commander isnt exactly where you can put it everything you own

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and expect it to work together

strange frost
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I know

deft belfry
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i would replace as many things with creatures that are not 4 drops so that Sami can come out

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maybe some big spell has covoke or improvise to make use of your board

wicked gust
deft belfry
deft belfry
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potentially X scaling spells as simple as [[fireball]]

shrewd zealotBOT
strange frost
shrewd zealotBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/moc/44/wildfire-awakener

Wildfire Awakener <:manax:292901509082120202><:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Wizard
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for mana1 or one mana of that creature's color.)
When this creature enters, create X 1/1 red Elemental creature tokens with "Whenever this token becomes tapped, it deals 1 damage to target player."
3/2

deft belfry
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[[$wildfire awakener]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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look for cards that are slightly worse

wicked gust
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It isnt that big btw

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I just move stuff around a lot

deft belfry
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opens room door, all cards within sight

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piles that reaches the ceiling

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[[book wurm]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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i wish i have a library of cards ...

cold quartz
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im learning a lot of flash and morph cards are cheap as hell, this deck might end up being pretty budget

deft belfry
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[[sami ships engineer]] + [[prophetic prism]] will get your engine on as soon as possible

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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oh wait its only creatures

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not artifact

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i guess you are better off with like [[runed servitor]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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but at this point, rather than the price, you may as well ask experienced player to donate bulk for you to use

strange frost
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The price limit was more of a challenge for myself

deft belfry
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[[$network terminal]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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[[network terminal]]

shrewd zealotBOT
strange frost
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thank you for all of your ideas

deft belfry
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[[blitzball]]

shrewd zealotBOT
deft belfry
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np, good luck with it, i think B1 is not exactly about playability