#Need help cutting card in my Evelyn the Covetous deck
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"Before end phase, Untap Upkeep Draw"
Yeah Im sure, thats why its written like this
i dont have enough experience with [[negate]] nor do my opponent cast too many instant things
I did play with [[Render Silent]]
And so far one deck died the very next turn I stopped him
yeah, i have heard past pod cast on the first/ top 5 counterspells
fierce being basically the top
Free spells is always best
personal, i dont care about giving treasures so i just do offer cant refuse
but i think permission denied is basically better than offer here
if you dont mind the white pip
there are always things like [[swan song]] etc
Azorius doing azorius things tbh
i never believed in GC, but there are more of the obnoxious cards to play with and against
count highlord as ramp
I really dislike Smothering Tithe, Rhystic and Vorinclex
yeah vorinclex messed with that turn order interaction too
anything that say "no mana allowed level of stax"
I did copy one with Mirage Mirror once
Killed them next turn so didnt matter but lol still
[[vorinclex]]
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Praetor
Trample, reach
When Vorinclex enters, search your library for up to two Forest cards, reveal them, put them into your hand, then shuffle.


: Exile Vorinclex, then return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control. Activate only as a sorcery.
6/6
The Grand Evolution
Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I — Mill ten cards. Put up to two creature cards from among the milled cards onto the battlefield.
II — Distribute seven +1/+1 counters among any number of target creatures you control.
III — Until end of turn, creatures you control gain "
: This creature fights target creature you don't control." Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield (front face up).
i forgot the rest of the name
[[Voice of hunger]]
Mirage only copy for turn
and I wouldnt copy it each turn because my mana would dip to shit when its finally my turn lol
its not like put a stun counter on lands and poliferate
oh yeah
i seen it in like 2 games in my life
when a card that hits the grave/table and everyone has to find a way around it or die
and isnt banned or GC no longer
but is kinda in the B4 catergory of MLD status
Yeah Urza will be a problem in my Greyfax deck
resource denial
i think if there is a card i dislike more like most of the GC, its aetherflux resouvior
the instant kill win con
In my goldfishing I once dropped him and it just propulsed me super far ahead (Theoritically)
I never saw that card played yet
I honestly would love to see it vs my Queen Marchesa
if only aether flux doesnt say "you gain life on it" only the pay 50 to deal 50
i wouldnt care that it is a 1-2 mana artifact
yeah, that would be a fun interaction
pay 50, take net 100
not even for best play but for most deserved damage
"Oh you go to 10? i can redirect it to my opponent with 30 or back at you, what do you think?"
So many decisions
nah, i know my choice 95% of those times
[[Return the favor]] Why not both?
i kill the threat with an actual boardstate
threat(s)
i havent got that card :c i may need a proxy of a bunch of rakdos colour cards
[[Display of power]] how about everyone dies?
got to do [[thousand year storm]] first
I like these kind of spells
thousand year storm is one of those win-more or you arent winning this turn card
6 mana for a do nothing is nearly unplayable nowadays, more than the 5 mana do nothing [[black market]]
the old fun commander stuff
Yeah
looking at the equipment https://moxfield.com/decks/2Kwegsuw4UCWl5wNH8xhKA i dont really see what shadowspear adds besides being generically good
is it the lighthouse thing
no hexproof if your opponent has hexproof
Yeah its not superb youre right
I wanted a few good equipments but this one sticks out
i see
I think it's my most well-built first draft though
i am a sucker for deathtouch so i honestly like [[basilisk collar]] more because of that
At least the playtests were pretty good
i do own a shadowspear in my B3 artifact deck
yeah the creature into value is solid
trying to find that lesser quality card is rough
just staring at the same card over and over
"ok, this one removes anything, the one removes slightly less than anything but cost 1 less"
and we have very different standard so my cuts are very rough too
tutor, easy cut
XD
redundancy gone
Well in this case the tutors also act as something else
i do overboard on the ramp package in my green decks
so non green control feels too slow
[[Ayara's Oathsworn]] is just good in this deck
and i can hardly run high cost cards
[[Cloud midgar]] is strong with equips and being given double strike is just too good to pass up
[[Muddle the mixture]] is a new find and I really like the card
i would probably not list that within the "tutor" just because it is creature synergy for commander's main plan
i thought i mentioned that card like 14 times on the server
Well, it stills tutor something
When you did it was with non-synergistic commanders
did i not mention that to you? or because all your decks are cutting down from 200 so i have no room to add XD
but this time I can give it double strike
yeah 4 mana commander, next turn or previous turn can tutor and play the 2 drop
do you want that food boardwipe that destroy power 2+ creatures
i feel like its better than damn
I think most of my 2 power creatures wont stay 2 power for long
make sense
I was eyeing Delney, but delney is still super good
delney is almsot never bad
it just gets boring for me every blue deck has clones and every white deck has delney
i can overlook having solring arcsignet in nearly all my decks
but when it comes to mono colour good stuff, i shy away from more
Oh, I decided to netdeck a list since I had space for Proxies
I went with [[Glarb Calamity Augur]]
i dont have [[feed the swarm]] in all my black decks but that maybe a skill issue
and if Doc Oct sucks to play, I might go [[The Scarab god]] as my dimir instead
Legendary Creature — God
At the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent loses X life and you scry X, where X is the number of Zombies you control.


: Exile target creature card from a graveyard. Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie.
When The Scarab God dies, return it to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next end step.
5/5
i pulled off [[annie joins up]] once so far, i think the game owuld be less interesting if i get that card every game
yes, it is a legend matter naya deck
its not a card that can fit every deck, unless you are playing 5c good stuff tribal
and its the [[panharmonicon]] type of fun
i am addicted to [[volo guide to monsters]] and doubling my double triggers
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Whenever you cast a creature spell that doesn't share a creature type with a creature you control or a creature card in your graveyard, copy that spell. (A copy of a creature spell becomes a token.)
"The beholder told me I had a good eye for details. Who was I to argue?"
3/2
i had [[man-o-war]] triggering 12 times per cast
yes, i didnt have enough dmg but the table scoped
and no, i dont have parhamonicon in my deck
Yeah figured
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but the point is, i will probably have like 20 target removal on avg from that point on
That seems like a lot
and grind everyone to death
yes, 10 spot removal on one player is enough to beat them out of the game in nearly topdeck mode
it was not the intended game plan but lot of things happened and ended up with basically two [[mirror room fracture realm]] opened
Enchantment — Room
When you unlock this door, create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except it's a Reflection in addition to its other creature types.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)
Fractured Realm 


Enchantment — Room
If a triggered ability of a permanent you control triggers, that ability triggers an additional time.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)
I think a fun game of commander is everyone being able to do their thing
and then you kill them
XD
i dont play those bident draw enchantments, instead i have the snake that give deathtouch and draw on damage
i didnt buy the curious cat enchantment
like Coastal Piracy lol
they are similar
Different color!
because the duskmourn one is the best one so i mention it last
[[toski bear]] is basically a blue card in my defense
Green draw is almost a foreign concept compared to blue
Difference being you don't have much choice when you play green for card draw
Yeah I will print the sideboard as well - 3-4 cards
fair, there are actually too many at this point imo
its usually the amount of mana payoff thats the issue
[[gurrak uprising ]] [[return wild speaker]] [[hunter insight]] all have conditions
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Its good draw but yeah its dependent on the deck you're playing
really red struggle the most, but i did get myself a ~$2 copy of the harmonize /flash mechanic X draw spell from the recent tarkir set
already forgot the name, will pick it up tonight at LGS
going to make my creature 50 power and then deck myself with X = 50 impulse draw
Sounds like me with Shelob last game
on the bright side, if i may X = 99, i still cant lose until i actually draw 1
the non blue red player going for that Labman win 🤣
I havent killed someone by making them draw an empty library with Queen Marchesa yet
I do have the means, but it's hard
last week, i played my 95% Limit Break precon
friend cast [[Tunnel vision]] without any deck manipulation
Sorcery
Choose a card name. Target player reveals cards from the top of their library until a card with that name is revealed. If it is, that player puts the rest of the revealed cards into their graveyard and puts the card with the chosen name on top of their library. Otherwise, the player shuffles.
asked for my favourite card
i give him my second answer, [[Possbility storm]] Yes, its one of the 5 cards
Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell from their hand, that player exiles it, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a card that shares a card type with it. That player may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then they put all cards exiled with this enchantment on the bottom of their library in a random order.
Yeah
lift my library to showed the other player the bottom card
, no reaction from them
milled my deck
keep milling my deck
almost at the end
it was the second last card
me when searching for lands
they tried so hard to find a way to make me draw 2 cards so i can deck out next turn
i attacked, [[cat sith perform]] took the last one
No card found for “cat sith perform”
Would've wife'd you up so hard 😉
what do you mean wife'd up
[[Wedding ring]]
Artifact
When this artifact enters, if it was cast, target opponent creates a token that's a copy of it.
Whenever an opponent who controls an artifact named Wedding Ring draws a card during their turn, you draw a card.
Whenever an opponent who controls an artifact named Wedding Ring gains life during their turn, you gain that much life.
No card found for “Secret exchange”
[[Secret rendezvous]]
[[exchange secret]]
No card found for “exchange secret”
[[Teyo geo]]
Legendary Planeswalker — Teyo
When Teyo enters, create a 0/4 white Wall creature token with defender and flying.
+1: You and target opponent each draw a card.
−2: Choose left or right. Until your next turn, each player may attack only the nearest opponent in the last chosen direction and planeswalkers controlled by that opponent.
Loyalty: 3
[[Loran of the third]]
[[Shadrix silverquill]]
Legendary Creature — Elder Dragon
Flying, double strike
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may choose two. Each mode must target a different player.
• Target player creates a 2/1 white and black Inkling creature token with flying.
• Target player draws a card and loses 1 life.
• Target player puts a +1/+1 counter on each creature they control.
2/5
bottom card was the steal artifact tyrant dragon
they checked the entire GY, find nothing
[[contagion]] how much i want to play this with proliferate
i like the mystery booster border more but this art more
gtg ttyl
ttyl
Need ideas for decks
Havent made any tribal yet
Wanna make a Human tribal deck
Something basic but strong that I can give a new player. I'm anticipating someone new that might wanna get into Magic
[[Eowyn Shieldmaiden]] Probably. Don't wanna make a mono color
Probably buy the precon and upgrade it?
that one may not satisfy you
its a hit or miss that dies to one wipe
mardu has some interest human options too
you can always start with 5c and see where that lead you 🤔
needing to play both eowyn and another human in the same turn, and two more before that, only to draw back 1 card is an awful rate, but it is card draw/cantrip in combat damage tribal deck
first strike is also not the best envasion if it even counts; much weaker than the jeskai one you had with umblockable team
If not Eowyn, there's [[Kyler Sigardian]]
A bit boring but simple enough
But like I said; Not really for me, but a deck that I can easily give a new player
Might scrap the whole human idea too
I saw a video from command zone with their favourite commander
One of them had [[Kangee Sky Warden]] and he said he made the deck with new players in mind
Easy to understand, but still strong enough to sit at B3 tables
yeah, that was is broing for me but it is definitely a easy and simplistic deck
maybe a [[dismissal]] would be interesting
i couldnt find a deck for it but the idea of stopping all trigger ability
wait wrong name
I mean, when I started replaying Magic I played with Eowyn and I am glad I did because a complicated deck mightve put me off the game
Once you start learning how the game work its fun to check other stuff
[[summary dismissal]]
But to start, its good to not have a ton of interaction and just being able to do your thing
i think playing at a sorcery speed is easier for beginner players
Like this card, how can a new player understand this card? Hard to play card.
and no hidden tricks that require complicated tool box or abusing the fact that people doesnt know to pay into [[rhystic study]] (happened more than once in my experience)
[[counsil judgment]]
No card found for “counsil judgment”
[[council s judgment]]
i would still do those things
and explain no more priority once the spell resolves
not that the new player will have a Tpro to counter this but its like a reality check for the table
"what are the threats other than me and how do respond in turn order"
[[Deveri Empyrial Tactician]] is also a good beginner Commander I think
it can be
but I prefer Kangee's simplicity and Dual color I think
but the stigma on it will be pretty bad
if i see you at the able with derevi, i think i will assume it is at least B3 if not B4
[[Momo friendly flier]] strong card coming from Avatar
the +1 counters somewhat matters when your win con is combat
but irrelevant with avacyn
Ramping starting from T2 can be pretty strong. He will be a strong COmmander for sure
to think white is the first to get the [[pillar of origin]] power creep mana dork
almost like a medallion
idk if you noticed, but i 've called momo before
i guess mono sounds like momo to them
[[minas tirinth]] you used this one before right, i think its a nice thing to have in a beginner deck
Legendary Artifact
Whenever two or more creatures you control attack a player, look at the top five cards of your library. You may reveal a creature card from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
"He that blows this horn shall set fear in the hearts of his enemies and joy in the hearts of his friends." —Éowyn
can even do [[access tunnel]]
and then end with the [[mystic sanctuary]] for utility
lot of sorcery speed things to show off your skill and experience in the game to a new player
Yeah I was debating for lands
Fetches, Shocks and Surveils are important to understand quickly
i dont like all basics, but a good amount of budget lands is nice if there is a reason for it
Better to learn with 2 colors then
i dont mind the fetch shock but it also gives the wrong idea to those who dont know what is going on
and think it is a pay to win mana base
2 colour can do just fine with primstic vista forbidden orchard etc
fable passage i forgot that name
I think its not as good in 2 colors
when i do fetching without a 1 mana play, i think its better to fetch at sorcery speed and pass/ do tap fetches or tap duals [[alpine meadow]]
if i top deck that shock, i can play it untapped or just dont have a shock at all in the deck
A pathway to teach dual faced lands
https://moxfield.com/decks/BhYQn5ksQkCEi3aFAOkC6g Heres a basic list
No tutors ofc
the thing is, for two colour deck, once you have 5 lands out
you can probably play most of the spell in the deck with no issue even if you have like 90% basic lands
because it would be like 2 -3 of each colour
its not like you are running [[necrodominance]] type of heavy cost spells
if your lands are bad enough, a single signet fixes all the mana issue
dual lands is a good investment for long term players, idk how long new players plan on playing the game
and lot of new player dump tons of $$ right away with their new hobby
i also dont know how much it affect them if they see everyone using ping fetch + shocks
i dont run scry lands but lot of long time players still do
i think scry 1 is bad enough so i make that exception for a tap land to not run
Yeah only Scry lands I run is Path of ancestry when pertinent
at that point i rather have the strixhaven scry land where the scry is basically unplayable
i dont count path as a scry land lol XD its my tapped command tower
mono colour with command tower is the cringe moment
i would troll and do urborg in a non black deck if i have the budget
Urborg if you play a lot of lands that doesnt tap for mana? lol
[[dragonskull summit]] if i have more copies i probably wont mind giving to new players
convert them to the cult of rakdos
urborg gives your evolving wild the ability to tap for colour without sac and the ones from street of cap
forgot the name have to look up
Maze of ith too
anyways, with [[sunken hollow]] aether drift duals [[???? ]] bond lands [[training center]] ping lands [[ caves of koilos]] or just regular tap lands that fixes mana [[arcane sanctum]] & tainted lands all low budget stuff
No rulings available for _____.
Yeah
i havemt seen the world tree in a long time
thats the higher budget side
i try to use cards that if i want to trade them anything within my deck, i dont feel bad about XD
unless i only have 1 copy and very attached to the card
or proxy not meant for trading
i play my games like back in the good old decks of [[contract from below]] ante
jk that was before my time
would be a very fun way to build a deck
just not for marjority of commander players who owns $9000 decks
"Here's my very budget Yuriko deck with Ante cards, have fun"
meanwhile i want to play my commander where i am reinventing the "forgetful fish dandan" format XD
and play without sleeves or mat
👌 quality
riffle shuffle while looking your opponents in the eyes
my first sleeveless deck is in the making, its simic
i got that one 1997?ish HP counterspell i havent used in my life
finally a deck to play it
as long as the backside doesnt show the water damage
[[thornspire verge]] find it
the whole point is, i dont think any $5-10+ lands are needed for a good mana base
Oh I know that
each one contribute to about ~1% of exccess hidden value to the deck, just not what i want to use in the low power game
if my deck has a top deck revealed manipulation theme
i would make that exception
or [[marchesa black rose]] self pain
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Dethrone (Whenever this creature attacks the player with the most life or tied for most life, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
Other creatures you control have dethrone.
Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it dies, return that card to the battlefield under your control at the beginning of the next end step.
3/3
Multiple cards match “pathfinder”, can you be more specific?
Huh... First time I make a list that almost has 100 cards flush
did I forget something? lol
let me refresh
jk
wow the fetch shock bond land is like $60 of the $80 budget
i would have put [[mana tithe]] to troll lol
taps out blue mana, still counters the spell after they pay for the bird
The other one mana white counterspell is better
Countering a solring or Arcane signet is worth the Mana tithe lol
and people playing X spells
yeah
added insult to injury if your commander is the stax one
i honestly dont think cyclonic rift is needed over the one that target an opponent
or just [[aetherize]]
river's rebuke is sorcery but less salt
if it is just tokens, [[echoing truth]] or [[leyline of signularity]]
i think [[crytic command]] is better
Yeah its pretty strong
[[cannot move]] works with vigiliance but not other flyers
No card found for “cannot move”
Instant
Return to your hand all enchantments you both own and control, all Auras you own attached to permanents you control, and all Auras you own attached to attacking creatures your opponents control. Then destroy all other enchantments you control, all other Auras attached to permanents you control, and all other Auras attached to attacking creatures your opponents control.
wait is that incantesimi a good card for the cursed apple
no
thats the italian part
ah
they talk a lot
[[remove enchantments]]
Instant
Return to your hand all enchantments you both own and control, all Auras you own attached to permanents you control, and all Auras you own attached to attacking creatures your opponents control. Then destroy all other enchantments you control, all other Auras attached to permanents you control, and all other Auras attached to attacking creatures your opponents control.
what is this [[Ambiguity]] wording
You would play this, wouldnt you
if i have a rule 0 game and everyone allows 1 silver border card,... i would have to have it as the top 3
there are better silverborder
i did [[chaos moon]] once
Enchantment
At the beginning of each upkeep, count the number of permanents. If the number is odd, until end of turn, red creatures get +1/+1 and whenever a player taps a Mountain for mana, that player adds an additional
. If the number is even, until end of turn, red creatures get -1/-1 and if a player taps a Mountain for mana, that Mountain produces colorless mana instead of any other type.
never again?... maybe
You mind proxies? No? Here's my stack of [[Blacker Lotus]]
i think the strongest deck i have played (other than borrowed decks) runs [[wave of vitriol]] because it replace my non basics with basics for landfall
yes i basically played farewell before farewell existed
jeanbean man [[omnath lotus of rage]]
I know a few players (Like me) that would absolutely get bodied by Vitriol
Just scapeshift then
every removal other than beast within can be used on myself just to ramp me a basic into play [[ghost quarter]]
Or the new EoE creature that land sac everything
it was a budget deck with lot of basics
also 5+ years ago
its just nearly B4 without trying to be
so scapeshift would have been the upgrade
and [[$ancient tomb ]]
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would cost more than the deck itself + sleeve included
I'll tag it, who knows there might be holes
you can do mind stone or [[command sphere]] for 5 mana curve commander
Just go check the list
Sky is already cut
i forgot moxfield doesnt update like archetdk
after like 18 decks I've sent you lol
why no do the jeskai bird tribal, that one has card draw with bird synergy
i have archekt open here so i am switching between screens
Zinnia?
that sounds familar
[[Zinnia Valley's voice]]
Legendary Creature — Bird Bard
Flying
Zinnia gets +X/+0, where X is the number of other creatures you control with base power 1.
Creature spells you cast have offspring
. (You may pay an additional
as you cast a creature spell. If you do, when that creature enters, create a 1/1 token copy of it.)
1/3
no
[[Kykar wind's fury]]
it has a modal ability
that cares about birds
ah i was off
its not red
[[kastral the windcrested]]
Legendary Creature — Bird Scout
Flying
Whenever one or more Birds you control deal combat damage to a player, choose one —
• You may put a Bird creature card from your hand or graveyard onto the battlefield with a finality counter on it.
• Put a +1/+1 counter on each Bird you control.
• Draw a card.
4/5
Motherfucker
🤌
BRO ITS IN THE LIST
wouldnt that be a bettter commander
He COULD.
But with the new player perspective I prefer raw stats
How do I tag this thing lol
Lifegain is my global tag for this I guess
i think [[dawn Truce ]] having gift a card makes it cooler than [[teferi protection]]
[[your temple is under attack]] is nice if you want to get triggers from mastermind
yeah they are at the top
Lots of protection
I think its preferrable for a new deck
I'd rather have protection than interaction when I don't know what everyone else is doing
protection is pretty much interactions
the diff is just being proactive and reactive
i like the one counterspell that only cost
if i attacked that turn
otherwise, it is just a [[cancel]]
if for some reason i care about tapping out down to one blue, thats something i can play on my attacking turn
I think I wanna cut 2-something and add one ramp and one draw
Otherwise I think the deck is great
Good curve
Good amount of everything
change a land to draw?
or a land that draws
ha no [[field to ruins]]? just because it gives everyone a land back?
No card found for “field to ruins”
[[field of ruin]]*
[[Demolition field]]
ramps two unsuspecting players
Sorry friend, it has been powercrept
XD
by helping the one that is mana screwed with a bad opening hand
but i am still not nice enough to run [[victory chime]]
this is an interesting one in deck that say "one spell you cast each turn cost
less"
which i dont have a deck for
i do the green stuff that let people search for basics but thats about it
i want to play [[weird harvest]] in a combo deck
Its in my [[Inquisitor Greyfax]]
yeah i saw that
Coupled with [[Sting the glinting]]
lot of artifact to get but the control is there
and you play many instants to begin with
Yeah its not lost without the commander
dont work with my all out tap out [[villainous wealth]]
i whiffed so hard on that one before
Playtest are good methinks. just good curved plays
it was like mill 11 cards, cast nothing
yeah curve looks nice
i would argue its too low but it works so
if you got room, there are flying support that is basically [[chart the course]]
[[Winged Words
its in
i think there are more but idr, have to scryfall
Dunno if I'd rather have more draw cards or draw engines
Probably engines since the mana curve is low
tribal draw would be nice, but not too broken
i got myself a cheap reprint of [[pact of the serpent]]
knowing myself it will probably be used like a gary kill spell
lol
also a $1 reflection of littjara for some cloning fun
but at that 5 curve its a very slow tribal support card
better than thousand year storm 6 mana
i dont have a commander for the tribal deck yet 😅
doing it in reverse
[[Sky Hussar]] ? Extra draw each turn and fits the theme
or is it too complicated
nah thats fine imo, name of ability from hand, cost -> effect
isnt this something you showed me long ago
a personal favourite or sth
No
anyways i am going to get redy for my LGS going to eat first
must be someone else then
i remember the card he mentioned about in a 60 card format
i wish
i have the worse set up on my table so idek how to make anything work
and my decks are too chaotic
If you ever do hit me up.
i will need proper decks as well
yeah ofc
possibility storm all day
will first need a camera, and a tripod/holder
Cellphone works for cam
stack of books also work
Not the best, admittedly
T7 kill. seems pretty good to me
Yeah its very solid. I'm impressed
B3 is T7 and onward?
i will need to make it so that the phone can be stable on the top of the book shelf
there are just wires all over my desk
with hardly anyroom
Yes
I'll be going back on my older decks and check for any changes individually. I need to do it this time because it was supposed to be the next Proxies galore upgrade but I went completely off-course.
So:
-Shelob (Inconsistent but strong)
-Serah Farron (Rarely wins, too big a threat not enough bite)
-Frodo and Sam (Few upgrades from new sets)
-Celestine (Not much to do but increase consistency)
-Original Bello (Lots of changes to do, still need to be real cards)
Here's how I will explain the changes:
-Every card that have the (" ! "x2) meaning there are two of them in the deck, are cards that I want to swap out for cards in the Sideboard.
With that said, here's the revised Shelob: https://moxfield.com/decks/uKPMiEe3p0yJHKnAZwO39w
Yes, there are more cards in the sideboard than cards I wanna change. I'll make the selection later.
k i will take a quick look tmw
the shelob one has lot of interesting things, idk exactly what it needs. Since shelob super buff spiders, i think its just a matter of how many spiders you can get out to overwhelm someone and get value from food in some ways as they are forced to lose creatures
in my mind its token go wide like white win con
there maybe generic win con that just works with things you stole, and silly ways to turn non creature into creatures
Main goal of Shelob is to ramp into her, then fight stuff, make them into food with abilities, and have fun. Everything is built to have that in the deck. Spiders suck, spiderman set didnt give anything interesting for Golgari.
Working on a [[The Scarab god]] deck
Legendary Creature — God
At the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent loses X life and you scry X, where X is the number of Zombies you control.


: Exile target creature card from a graveyard. Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie.
When The Scarab God dies, return it to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next end step.
5/5
Still looking for a Tribal deck. I'm juggling between Birds (Choco, Seeker of Paradise), Knights(Sidar Jabari) and Humans still
No birds= Choco cant do shit
I aint putting the usual Landfall boring stuff in it
I kinda wanna make a Field of the dead zombies party tho
If you haven't seen the mono black fight at the Command Zone you've missed a nice game
and with that I wanna make a commander Mono Black
Challenge build: [[The Archimandrite]]
Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
At the beginning of your upkeep, you gain X life, where X is the number of cards in your hand minus 4.
Whenever you gain life, each Advisor, Artificer, and Monk you control gains vigilance and gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the amount of life you gained.
Tap three untapped Advisors, Artificers, and/or Monks you control: Draw a card.
0/5
Looks fun, costs too much, effects are all over the place.
What can we do with this
At first glance, I wanna try to get as many Upkeeps as possible
not exactly, upkeep is the life gain route
but in reality its a go wide get [[knowledge is power]] with tribal card draw
and since its 2 (somewhat independent) trigger abilities, as long as you have a life gain subtheme (regardless of how many life you gain) everything on your board will have insane power
gain life on your opponent's turn means they have a hard to getting through, and having a Jesmir type of boardstate allows for combat damage win while maintaining a card size
Yeah drawing cards seems better for higher power: https://moxfield.com/decks/XKNWEDmKF0af2U26ElX0pQ
I'll work on it tomorrow.
[[Scholarship Sponsor]] I'll unironically play this in that deck
Its not even that bad considering it only searches for basics
I'll keep a healthy amount of basics to make sure I can befenit from this
It goes against all my beliefs, but Rhystic Study is perfect in there
[[Illusions of Grandeur]] lol
Oh nvm, I had an older print
I think I got somewhat of a picture now
Man, [[Arbiter Augustin]] would rock in this deck but holy shit I hate this dude
In the 99 though...
I'm at 111. Tough cuts to make
thats kinda insane in the right scenario
the everyone catch up ramp card
instead of augstin you can always do water/wind crystal
or embrace my chaos with [[awaken helm]]
and all the bounce lands + a few untappers
[[kepie guide]] the mana dork
i dont think it is a [[worn power stone]] with extra steps as long as it fixes my colour
do it you cower <_<
Its in. Look at the lisy
actually +20 doesnt sound bad at all
Sadly the basic lands dude didnt make it
3 colors is hard for basics
And illusions of grandeur is an easy surprise commander kill
honestly, forgot augustin is an advisor, but if you are doing rhystic study i think you may as well keep going with 2 GC s
Yeah I went with Ancient tomb and sphinx instead.
Augusting can easily replace sphinx tho
A fat piece of shit yes
its not shaming when its tru
Facts
i dont recall azorius cards, is there something that gain a life when you draw card?
only remeber other mass life gain cards, which feels slow since i am not used to them
and then many janks that cares about big hard size
hand size*
btw u ened up with 4 GCs
cut draw because you will deck out 😅
Oops. Forgot to tag the Shitstic Study
Ill remove Sphinx then.
[[Shabraz the skyshark]] closest one
yeah i would be removing sphinx too, i havent seen it ever since it became a GC
guess idont play high power enough 😅
too many counters/ removal at B4
He didnt fit anyway. If its just for the draw I'd rather have it as an enchantment , and not 6 mana either.
So if I go Augusting then Fierce or Ancient Tomb goes
Probably Tomb since I need some boardwipe protection
I'm famous now
from what?
Played a game on spelltable and its on Youtube now.
Anyway, how can a piece of shit deck like this win?
Might go esper to get pay life effect.
🤣
the simple answer would be the biggest winning spell
if you want to be the ultimate piece of shit, get ahead, slow others down, then cast all the extra turns spells
i think the best answer would be, use augstin as the salty distraction, so that even if its removed, you get away with the stronger piece undisrupted
if you want any form of fun [[soul barrier]] [[mindskinner]] those are cards i thought about for the mono blue burn theme
Legendary Enchantment Creature — Nightmare
The Mindskinner can't be blocked.
If a source you control would deal damage to an opponent, prevent that damage and each opponent mills that many cards.
It slices away the most precious memories first, then the mundane, until all that remains is blank, formless fear.
10/1
otherwise, generic as possible, just annoying stax/tax/punishment, fake group hug card advantage & value, some "win cons" and end with ramp draw removal of choice
it does sucks that you have no cost reduction for artifact so its like the opposite of [[cloudkey]]
gtg 2 work will discuss later
Ive made a quick 100 cards list
probably the most incompletely and mindless deck i have seen from you so far lol
only 2 cards can benefit from the
less from the commander
cards are basically there to be annoying rather than trying to do something
almost feels like a [[defense grind]] / [[sphere of resist]] deck
not resistance, there is one where every cost AT LEAST 3 to cast idr the name
some minor things are lowkey nonbo but at least there is the option to not play them in that case
like stopping your own etb
[[heliod radiant dawn]] is one that i like
Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
When Heliod enters, return target enchantment card that isn't a God from your graveyard to your hand.

: Transform Heliod. Activate only as a sorcery. (
can be paid with either
or 2 life.)
"Compleat the faith, compleat the god." —Ajani Goldmane
4/4
Heliod, the Warped Eclipse
Legendary Enchantment Creature — Phyrexian God
You may cast spells as though they had flash.
Spells you cast cost
less to cast for each card your opponents have drawn this turn.
"Compleat the god, compleat the plane." —Ajani Goldmane
4/6
which is probably the opposite direction you are aimming for
the cant search library thing with your own searches and triggers that may not go in your favour
[[remand]] [[memory laspe]]
No card found for “memory laspe”
idr which one it is that return to hand
the OG reprieve
may want to consider [[blood clock]] type of effects to force more spell cast there is one where it bounces all creatures with power greater than the controllers hand size on the players upkeep
[[fade away]]
some blue spells with karn on them also has staxing like ability
the ones i dont know well are the blue white stuff since those can get. the most out of augustin
It was a thematic deck for the theme of halloween. I needed something scary. Spiders, insects? Nah.
TAXES.
Yeah it wasnt something id make on paper anyway. Would probably play it once a year during tax month but otherwise no
Gotta check the new waterbending cards for my Greyfax deck. Waterbending goes well with artefacts decks.
Theyre in the sideboard.
Groans of pain all around the table as I remind them of fucking taxes during commander night
I'm sure I'll make friends
i hope your table didnt have the crybabies because they will pull out the salties deck on the following game
Tax evader decks
Got my cards, and now I'm paying the price of procrastination lol. All decks need cuts
At least I'm off tomorrow before my LGS
yeah i procrastinated on too many decks
I am not 100% serious. When I make decks I usually end up with hard choices at the 110 mark, where everything seem too important to cut. So taking a step back, ordering the cards, and not looking at the list until I get them 2 weeks after helps when I get back to them for cuts.
So right now Inquisitor Greyfax and Jin Sakai are done, the cuts werent hard to make looking back at it
I removed the easy boring win-cons
and a few cards that werent worth it when I read them again
sometimes you think a card is really good then you re-read the card
New project going on: https://moxfield.com/decks/gyQC97Pzd0KrM3PA3fE6iQ
I'm either debating going Birds tribal-ish but I wanna try just boosting my opponents birds instead with cards like [[Bad Moon]]
If you know anything that buff similarly, like [[Coat of arms]] too
i got some good ones for that deck, let me find and pull it up
i think one of builds i saw was super aggresswive with every Myr just to get extra card types
i think its a bit too much to play that many artifact creatures
I added [[Mycosynth lattice]] I think you'll like that jank
With many "Additional land" cards, I can trigger Rendmaw multiple times no matter the land played lol
yes i love some [[karn the great creator]] janks as much as you love augstin
Legendary Planeswalker — Karn
Activated abilities of artifacts your opponents control can't be activated.
+1: Until your next turn, up to one target noncreature artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and toughness each equal to its mana value.
−2: You may reveal an artifact card you own from outside the game or choose a face-up artifact card you own in exile. Put that card into your hand.
Loyalty: 5
lol
[[$mycosynth lattice]] the only person i know who would do those things without saying anything ahead of time
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is kinda the autistic socially awkward one in the group
i think as a one off, and non combo kill way, it is definitely something that is more interesting to build around
and proxy allows you to get around that budget problem 👍 jank or not, i think its a good choice here
[[vayager staff]] i havent check you list yet, wifi unstable
[[wing storm]]
🙂
yeah i had this card but dont have the commander yet :/
i assume all the artifact lands are already here
I'd like more lands to get more use out of my Look at top card, play lands effect
Yeah
[[compost]]
thats a nonbo btw
How so
Tokens arent cards?
its closer to the counter to syn konrad mill
tokens are permanent but not cards
creature card =/= creature tokens
yeah you are not the first one on that card for this deck
i recognize that name off memory for once
[[?compost]]
The ability triggers on a black card being discarded, milled, or countered, as well as a black card going to the graveyard from the battlefield.
they should update that to say tokens arent cards
Its not useless still
Good to know
[[reap]] on the other hand
[[tribal unity]]
the perfect go wide coat of arms until end of turn
if rendmaw has red it would be my signature deck
Not a lot of cards that buff everything by +X/+X
[[spectaclar showdown]] every game
Sorcery
Put a double strike counter on target creature, then goad each creature that had a double strike counter put on it this way. (Until your next turn, those creatures attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
Overload 


(You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
Oh yeah
[[eldamri, korvec]]
No card found for “eldamri, korvec”
[[Eladamri lorvecdal]]
Legendary Creature — Elf Warrior
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may cast creature spells from the top of your library.
,
, Tap two untapped creatures you control: Reveal a card from your hand or the top card of your library. If you reveal a creature card this way, put it onto the battlefield. Activate only during your turn.
3/3
[[eladamri, korvecdal]]
Legendary Creature — Elf Warrior
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may cast creature spells from the top of your library.
,
, Tap two untapped creatures you control: Reveal a card from your hand or the top card of your library. If you reveal a creature card this way, put it onto the battlefield. Activate only during your turn.
3/3
but this doesnt allow lands
No but I'm at 34 creatures
For now
If I cut heavy into them I'll get rid of him too
And, with another dude that can play lands from top, he helps getting to the lands by casting the creatures
For basically free too
i like how its the powercreep weird [[elvish piper]]
Meh.
"if you reveal a creature this way" the fact you can bluff with no creatures revealed is kinda funny
piper you at least need a hand size to bluff
"are you going to attack me when i have 5 + cards in hand
Just gotta be careful because it doesnt proc Rendmaw
its just for digging deeper and instant drop
Yep
""Oops, here's Nyxbloom ancient"
Or massacre wurm with 10 birds in play
Nonbo with Bad Moon tho, gotta be careful
Yeah, and its not garanteed
[[bad moon]] how so
oh the wurm thing you meant
got it
thought we were still on the eladamri XD
i like using [[kaya ghostform]] a lot when i play black
Oh yeah, would work great with Rend
but those are just not dual card type generic supports
i killed Massacre wurm with it oh for the -4 wi[e
wipe
Rend triggers on ETB too
yeah, and i guess its okay with sac outlets
[[Journey to eternity]] would also work as protection
Legendary Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature you control
When enchanted creature dies, return it to the battlefield under your control, then return this card to the battlefield transformed under your control.
Every journey has its inevitable end . . .
Atzal, Cave of Eternity
Legendary Land
(Transforms from Journey to Eternity.)
: Add one mana of any color.


,
: Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
. . . but every end is a new beginning.
oooh and if you can sac 3 things at one, i believe it works with baba lasaga
i thik JtE somewhat depends if you have many big creatures to reanimate
Its also protection that retrigger ETB and ramp at the same time
true, turn after commander is out
its a nice protection
with ideally you have sac outlet ready
I think its worth even if the other effect doesnt proc, but I do have strong creatures that could come back
And hey, have you noticed?
No Craterhoof 😉
to counter the path
the path?
path of exile
Oh you were finishing your thought
isnt no craterhoof normal 😅 but yeah this is definitely an attempt to do a more unique 99 with less generic good stuff
i abbrev path to exile to sword and path most of the time
have i tell you my obessesion with hating white
Why are you even talking to me lol
XD
YGO & rakdos at heart, i find every ways to counter white removals
I found my colors in Mardu
know your enemy , keep them close
You have to turn away from the light
but there arent enough counterspells sort of interactions in rakdos to do the same thing
Counterspells in Rakdos = $$$
yeah, i think a deck that describe my colour identity would be like running in fear due to sun light or something
Tribal Jank
i actually cant put together a tribal deck i enjoy too much
token tribal is the closest i got
I meant your creature type is jank
😒 bold of you to think grixis believe in playing creatures
Anyway, rendmaw is pretty much done I think.
Sadly he will not be printed in a long while
I've made and printed 15 decks in the past month, I gotta chill
and play what I've made
Crim from MTGgoldfish is like "i am immune to creature removal if i dont play creatures
my message isnt sending
XD sleeve will burn your wallet more than decks
They actually do
lol
and boxes
Sadly I'm running out of colors in Dragonshields
I dont even like Dragonshield sleeves
XD the trick is
to use the same sleeves
so you can get 1000 of them and never have to think about it since you take that choice away from yourself
well 990 with 10 one of for the commander
and you get pink sleeves to not stand out
Colors need to match the theme or the colors of the deck
I got 2 pink sleeves and 2 purple
i did upgrade my sleeves with something i got from Temu so there are legit anime art sleeves now
lowkey wanted pokemon/ygo art
i still have peeny sleeves for like 4+ decks
depends
anime sleeves can easily be equipment theme deck
I've seen my share of wavy sleeves dont worry
Back in the early days we had transparent sleeves for decks
that horrible garbage that didnt fit the cards
right, all i did was upgrade the penny sleeve wave to anime waifu curves 🤦
tbh i actually perfer the cutesy non hyper sexualize anime sleeves
I hope
there are still transparent sleeves
Ecchi sleeves are degenerate
you can read the MDFC without flipping it

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: Target Human gains flying until end of turn.